IRC Chat : 2014-02-25 - OpenMRS

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01:01:46 <GitHub118> [openmrs-core] wluyima pushed 1 new commit to 1.10.x: http://git.io/ZUb0cA
01:01:46 <GitHub118> openmrs-core/1.10.x 3a9e948 wyclif: Updated concept ids for order frequency in OrderFrequencyIntegrationTest
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02:01:53 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrsci: SON-OPENMRSCOREMASTER-157 has FAILED : Scheduled build <https://ci-stg.openmrs.org/browse/SON-OPENMRSCOREMASTER-157>
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03:10:35 <GitHub5> [openmrs-core] wluyima pushed 1 new commit to 1.10.x: http://git.io/BHFM5w
03:10:35 <GitHub5> openmrs-core/1.10.x 4fac51c wyclif: Follow up to clean up javadocs and add one more unit test - TRUNK-4214
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06:17:54 <billa_> hello
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08:55:50 <akwatuha_____> hi dkayiwa
08:56:11 <dkayiwa> akwatuha_____: hi
09:03:41 <akwatuha_____> dkayiwa: i need some help working on xform, the form is an xform to be loaded onto a mobile device. I have sent an email to you with the description.
09:03:51 <akwatuha_____> dkayiwa: please check and let me know
09:04:33 <dkayiwa> akwatuha_____: ok
09:06:00 <akwatuha_____> dkayiwa: I am basically looking for a way to create two controls/inputs where the user enters a value into an input field then based on some relevance, the user is asked to re-enter the value to confirm. We do not want the user to see what he/she entered initially when confirming the entry.
09:07:34 <dkayiwa> akwatuha_____: which mobile client are you using?
09:08:05 <akwatuha_____> mUzima or Odk Collect
09:08:14 <dkayiwa> akwatuha_____: does it support that?
09:10:42 <akwatuha_____> dkayiwa: mUzima will convert the xform into html5 for rendering. We were just wondering if xform by itself can support this.
09:11:35 <dkayiwa> akwatuha_____: am not very sure. it requires looking again into the xforms spec :)
09:20:02 <akwatuha_____> dkayiwa:okay, and is it possible to have a dynamic field type in xforms? i was thinking if possible we could have way to change the input type to password type after entry.
09:20:32 <dkayiwa> akwatuha_____: what do you mean by dynamic field
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09:24:07 <akwatuha_____> dkayiwa: i mean we have a normal input and change it dynamically to a password type to hide the input contents from the user
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09:26:10 <dkayiwa> akwatuha_____: does the mobile client support that?
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09:43:56 <akwatuha_____> dkayiwa: not sure. I think I have found a way out. Let me try it out
09:44:47 <dkayiwa> akwatuha_____: ok
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10:22:24 <dkayiwa> rafa: hi
10:22:30 <rafa> dkayiwa: hi
10:22:44 <dkayiwa> rafa: are we allowed to install modules on devtest02? :)
10:36:01 <rafa> dkayiwa: it's not recommended
10:36:19 <dkayiwa> rafa: :)
10:36:22 <rafa> dkayiwa: but if you need it badly...
10:36:31 <dkayiwa> rafa: not badly :)
10:36:40 <rafa> dkayiwa: the problem is the db is not being reset automatically
10:36:46 <dkayiwa> rafa: ok
10:37:04 <rafa> dkayiwa: so if you uninstall a module it leaves its tables
10:37:13 <dkayiwa> rafa: ok
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11:07:52 <samgtr> so i noticed that openmrs has been selected as an org for GSOC 14
11:08:07 <samgtr> i want to participate as a student for GSOC 14 and would love to contribute to this org
11:12:08 <casygans> HI all can anyone tell me what is ryan crichtons irc name
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15:02:21 <cpower> Ready to Scrum?
15:03:33 <cpower> ok, let's move forward
15:03:37 <cpower> !scrumon cpower
15:03:37 * OpenMRSBot says the DAILY SCRUM MEETING is STARTING. This meeting should not last longer than 15 minutes. Please hold other comments until the end of the meeting, or message someone privately. Thank you! ScrumMaster cpower- you may begin when ready.
15:03:59 <cpower> Order: wluyima , rafa , Daniel if you are around..., djazayeri
15:05:34 <wluyima> Monday:
15:05:35 <wluyima> - design call
15:05:36 <wluyima> - Complete RESTWS-415 - Fetch a patients active orders via rest
15:05:38 <wluyima> - RESTWS-404 - Fetch drug by reference mapping
15:05:39 <wluyima> Tuesday:
15:05:41 <wluyima> - Curate more core api tickets for order entry and create new iteration in jira
15:05:42 <wluyima> - order entry bi weekly call
15:05:44 <wluyima> - code review
15:05:45 <wluyima> - pick up a new order entry ticket
15:05:45 <wluyima> Blockers: None
15:05:59 <rafa> Today:
15:05:59 <rafa> * Merged RESTWS-281 REST does not expose relationships or relationship_types
15:05:59 <rafa> https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/RESTWS-281
15:05:59 <rafa> * Replying to e-mails
15:05:59 <rafa> * Code reviews
15:06:00 <rafa> No blockers.
15:06:40 <cpower> Have we heard from Daniel recently?
15:06:51 <cpower> Is he on vacation or something?
15:08:24 <cpower> take the silence as "don't know"
15:08:33 <cpower> djazayeri: anything to report?
15:09:36 <cpower> We have our Biweekly with Bahmni and KenyaEMR in 50 mins
15:09:53 <cpower> Thank you
15:09:56 <cpower> !scrumoff
15:09:57 * OpenMRSBot says the DAILY SCRUM MEETING has ENDED. This channel is now returned to normal hacking operations. Post-scrum meeting follow-up conversations may now begin.
15:10:07 <rafa> cpower: Daniel was around earlier today
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15:10:27 <cpower> rafa: thanks, guess we are just missing him
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16:00:38 <aka_007> harsz89, hie
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16:02:22 <aka_007> harsz89, I am stuck in a ticket. Please help.
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16:03:47 <harsz89> oopz aka_007 whtz d ticket?
16:04:33 <aka_007> harsz89, the ticket is https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-3840
16:05:01 <aka_007> harsz89, I want to sort the concepts so that the retired concepts are shown last and non-retired ones are shown first
16:05:44 <aka_007> harsz89, I have seen encounterFormController.java for its implementation but I am facing some errors in mvn clean install. Shall I pastebin the method? Please help
16:06:41 <harsz89> aka_007, mhhh
16:06:44 <harsz89> i think you better to get retire one and then non retire one then combine
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16:07:13 <suyash> hello
16:07:33 <suyash> i would like to start contributing to openMRS
16:07:37 <aka_007> harsz89, but according to the convention, I guess, everywhere they have used this method. Even daniel mentioned in the ticket, to use this.
16:07:42 <suyash> please guide me from where to start
16:07:44 <harsz89> aka_007, tht means you do any change there?
16:08:27 <aka_007> harsz89, changes where?
16:08:58 <harsz89> aka_007, nope i mean for failing build you have done any chanhes?
16:09:04 <harsz89> changes*
16:09:18 <harsz89> hi suyash
16:09:27 <harsz89> suyash, did you follow https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Getting+Started+as+a+Developer
16:09:28 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8bkO> (at wiki.openmrs.org)
16:09:34 <aka_007> harsz89, yaa. I added a line. Collections.sort(cstags, new MetadataComparator(Context.getLocale()));
16:09:45 <aka_007> harsz89, In this line it shows "cannot find symbol" .
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16:10:20 <suyash> i am not very aware of platform and languages used by open MRS
16:10:28 <suyash> can u please enlighten me?
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16:14:13 <aka_007> harsz89, Any idea about it?
16:15:14 <harsz89> aka_007, whre did you add this line
16:15:14 <harsz89> ?
16:15:34 <harsz89> suyash, openmrs is a web based application
16:15:41 <harsz89> suyash, implemented in java
16:15:54 <aka_007> harsz89, inside referenceData function(inside if (Context.isAuthenticated()) in ConceptFormController.java
16:16:00 <harsz89> suyash, using spring and hibernate frameworks
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16:19:00 <wluyima> djazayeri: hi
16:19:05 <djazayeri> wluyima: hi
16:19:16 <wluyima> djazayeri: am back, don't know how i got out
16:19:31 <wluyima> djazayeri: i think i closed the window by mistake, sorry about that
16:19:32 <djazayeri> wluyima: oh, okay, I just hung up
16:19:51 <djazayeri> wluyima: anyway, I see that on 2/17's design call we got to "Burke to draft an email ..."
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16:20:04 <GitHub82> [openmrs-core] ShubhamRai opened pull request #668: TRUNK-3335:Retired Provider Attribute Types should not be shown when add... (master...TRUNK-3335) http://git.io/pGikuQ
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16:20:07 <wluyima> djazayeri: yes
16:20:39 <djazayeri> wluyima: basically, burke has a solution in mind
16:21:20 <djazayeri> wluyima: though not fully-formed
16:21:38 <djazayeri> wluyima: but it's not yet ready-for-work
16:21:54 <wluyima> djazayeri: right, i a see that the email last mentioned Jonathan's idea
16:22:14 <wluyima> djazayeri: i guess i will bring it up tomorrow so that we can decide on it
16:22:31 <djazayeri> wluyima: yup
16:22:47 <wluyima> djazayeri: ok thanks
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16:27:46 <Guest88769> burke: http://codewader.blogspot.no/2014/02/a-groovy-light-table-client-step-2.html?m=1
16:27:49 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/B7cF> (at codewader.blogspot.no)
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16:28:57 <r0bby> Or anyone into groovy
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16:40:29 <wluyima> hi djazayeri can we create a new dashboard?
16:40:37 <wluyima> djazayeri: new iteration?
16:40:45 <djazayeri> wluyima: you want to hang out now and do that?
16:40:56 <wluyima> djazayeri: sure, 2min
16:41:02 <djazayeri> wluyima: okay, call me on hangout
16:41:09 <wluyima> djazayeri: cool
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16:50:40 <djazayeri> wluyima: you there?
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17:04:49 <wluyima> djazayeri: give me about 10min, will let you know, sorry about that
17:05:02 <djazayeri> wluyima: okay, i'm on a standup now
17:07:37 <wluyima> djazayeri: ok
17:11:14 <djazayeri> wluyima: okay, ready now
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17:50:30 <andrew_sz> Hello!
17:52:00 <andrew_sz> I've found a very interesting project, but it's unassigned... Is there any chance that I can work on that project?
17:56:40 <harsz89> andrew_sz, what is the project?
17:56:43 <harsz89> andrew_sz, :)
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17:58:22 <andrew_sz> https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/projects/Add+Support+for+Open+Web+Apps
18:00:46 <andrew_sz> Actually, I'm searching for an idea which is mainly realted to java ee web, and I found this org interesting
18:00:54 <andrew_sz> related*
18:00:57 <harsz89> andrew_sz, itz a google summer of code project
18:01:19 <harsz89> andrew_sz, are you hoping to take part on it?
18:01:20 <andrew_sz> yes, I'd like to participate in gsoc
18:02:50 <andrew_sz> I haven't contributed to open source projects before, its time to begin it :)
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18:06:14 <harsz89> andrew_sz, yeap itz time to begin :D
18:06:36 <harsz89> andrew_sz, i assume you going through getting start as a developer guide
18:06:38 <harsz89> andrew_sz, :)
18:06:49 <harsz89> andrew_sz, hit couple of intro tickets
18:06:50 <harsz89> :)
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18:07:35 <andrew_sz2> wow, time out...
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18:20:37 <andrew_sz> And I don't know how things work, yet, do I have to ask someone to make it an active project?
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18:47:04 <harsz89> andrew_sz2, itz there on gsoc 2014 wiki
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18:47:18 <harsz89> andrew_sz2, you can ask any doubts
18:47:41 <harsz89> andrew_sz, setup the development enviornment
18:47:44 <harsz89> andrew_sz, :)
18:49:18 <andrew_sz> thank you, the wiki says, that if I'd like to work on an unassigned project, I should contact with mentors here
18:49:48 <andrew_sz> My enviroment is also set up, is it a problem if I use intellij idea instead of eclipse?
18:52:20 <andrew_sz> harsz89: Oh, I forgot how things working here in IRC, I should mention your nickname
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19:46:13 <GitHub85> [openmrs-core] akshika47 opened pull request #669: Trunk-2873 (master...Trunk-2873.1) http://git.io/USX7Zw
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19:59:24 <harsz89> hi rafa you there?
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20:00:44 <aka_007> dkayiwa, hie
20:00:59 <dkayiwa> aka_007: hi
20:01:47 <aka_007> dkayiwa, I am on this ticket https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-3840. I am stuck in sorting the concept tags. I have seen it's implementation in EncounterFormController.java
20:02:07 <aka_007> dkayiwa, but it's showing error in mvn clean install "cannot find symbol" . Please help.
20:02:52 <dkayiwa> aka_007: which symbol cant it find?
20:03:15 <aka_007> dkayiwa, error is in this line: Collections.sort(cstags, new MetadataComparator(Context.getLocale()));
20:03:35 <aka_007> dkayiwa, this line DOESN'T show any error: List<ConceptNameTag> cstags = new ArrayList<ConceptNameTag>(cs.getAllConceptNameTags());
20:03:44 <dkayiwa> aka_007: can you create a pull request for me to look at?
20:04:03 <aka_007> dkayiwa, yaa sure. Thanx for your time. doing it.
20:04:51 <andrew_sz> dkayiwa: you may use the -X switch when you run clean install
20:07:14 <dkayiwa> andrew_sz: was that for me or aka_007 ? :)
20:07:35 <andrew_sz> it was for aka_007, sorry :)
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20:07:49 <aka_007> andrew_sz, yaa I did but same was the output "cannot find symbol". It didn't elaborate much on that
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20:09:32 <andrew_sz> aka_007: "Cannot find symbol" occours when you use an undeclared variable in that scope
20:10:21 <aka_007> andrew_sz, yaa but in this case as I said I declared the variable cstags
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20:15:55 <GitHub197> [openmrs-core] aka001 opened pull request #670: TRUNK-3840 specifically for debugging purpose (master...TRUNK-3840) http://git.io/flDUaw
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20:16:00 <aka_007> dkayiwa, https://github.com/openmrs/openmrs-core/pull/670
20:16:45 <aka_007> dkayiwa, I have included almost all apis and utilities required to do so. Kindly have a look at it.
20:17:02 <dkayiwa> aka_007: ok
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20:40:47 <aka_007> dkayiwa, you saw it?
20:40:47 <dkayiwa> aka_007: just a moment
20:40:48 <aka_007> dkayiwa, yaa sure. :)
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21:10:11 <dkayiwa> aka_007: hi
21:10:16 <aka_007> dkayiwa, hie
21:10:57 <dkayiwa> aka_007: can you pastebin the compiler log?
21:11:22 <aka_007> dkayiwa, yaa doing it.
21:14:26 <aka_007> dkayiwa, just 2 minutes.
21:19:00 <aka_007> dkayiwa, sorry for the delay http://pastebin.com/FhpDEePi
21:20:31 <dkayiwa> aka_007: no need for the apology because am not just seated here waiting for you :)
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21:21:09 <aka_007> dkayiwa, okay. :)
21:22:24 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrsci: REP-REP-236 has FAILED (1 tests failed) : Updated by Michael Seaton <https://ci-stg.openmrs.org/browse/REP-REP-236>
21:23:08 <dkayiwa> aka_007: which editor are you using?
21:23:46 <aka_007> dkayiwa, I was using eclipse. Now I have gone into some errors in eclipse. So presently I am using just vim.
21:24:05 <aka_007> dkayiwa, I will soon fix it and get back to eclipse.
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21:24:30 <dkayiwa> aka_007: don't you see an obvious compiler error in your editor on the line reported?
21:28:19 <aka_007> dkayiwa, no, is it that collection.sort is meant only for encounter type variables?
21:28:52 <dkayiwa> aka_007: first of all, does your editor show you the error?
21:29:03 <aka_007> dkayiwa, I am unable to figure out, since all the variables I have used I have declared it so I don't get it.
21:29:34 <aka_007> dkayiwa, it's simple vim. so it doesn't. Let me configure it in eclipse.
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21:37:15 <aka_007> dkayiwa, yaa I saw the error. I didn't include two utils related to collection.
21:39:03 <aka_007> dkayiwa, Also there is another error which says: the method sort(List<T>,comparator<? super T>) in the type Collections is not applicable to the arguments(List<ConceptNameTag>,MetadataComparator)
21:39:50 <aka_007> dkayiwa, I am working on it.
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21:49:05 <jblaya> hey djazayeri, quick question, in openmrs 1.x, how hard is it to change the order of the tabs on the patient page i.e. Description, Demographics, Encounters, Form Entry?
21:51:27 <djazayeri> jblaya: AFAIK there's no easy way to change it. If you have a module adding something to the patient dashboard already, you could inject some javascript to reorder them.
21:51:54 <djazayeri> jblaya: this would be hacky, and happen after the page loads, so perhaps be noticeable with a slow computer or slow connection
21:52:00 <djazayeri> jblaya: it would be a nice feature to have
21:52:33 <jblaya> djazayeri, and any idea how much it could be to make it a global property and change it in core? We could probably do it
21:53:17 <djazayeri> jblaya: that would be easy to do
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21:54:37 <jblaya> djazayeri, ok, I'll make a core ticket for it, and we might end up picking it up, just to make sure, we'll just want the GP to be a comma delimited line of the tab names e.g. description,encounters,form entry and if a tab is not listed it is not displayed?
21:56:08 <djazayeri> jblaya: I think it should be the unique ids for the tabs
21:56:48 <djazayeri> jblaya: check whether a ticket exists already; there might be one
21:57:17 <jblaya> djazayeri, and then have those unique ids be displayed in the description of the GP? 'cause otherwise how will a user know which id is for which tab?
21:58:13 <djazayeri> jblaya: They're pretty self-explanatory, e.g. "patientOverviewTab"
21:58:48 <jblaya> djazayeri, ah, ok, I assumed they would be numerical, ok, I'll check of the ticket exists if not I'll create it
21:58:51 <djazayeri> jblaya: some will also come from modules
21:59:26 <djazayeri> jblaya: e.g. from modules they are "${extension.tabId}Tab"
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22:06:02 <jblaya> djazayeri, one other question, can the description of the GP show which tabs are available? e.g. it searches through the core and module tabs and updates the description so you know what are your options?
22:22:43 <djazayeri> jblaya: there's not really any way to do this, no
22:23:27 <djazayeri> jblaya: well, I guess that using the 1.9-era "Settings" page, plus a custom datatype and custom widget would let you do this
22:23:46 <djazayeri> jblaya: that definitely is a bunch of work
22:24:17 <jblaya> djazayeri, ok, we can leave that out
22:24:18 <jblaya> djazayeri, ok, here's the ticket I created, because I couldn't find one https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-4275
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22:25:43 <GitHub87> [openmrs-core] coldcue opened pull request #671: TRUNK-3197: An option is added for each sort item to be asc or desc (master...TRUNK-3197) http://git.io/wtfd_Q
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22:26:20 <djazayeri> jblaya: looks about right; I marked it ready for work, in case you're looking to claim it soon
22:28:09 <jblaya> djazayeri, nop, we won't do it for a month at least
22:32:16 <Akshika47> hi
22:33:48 <Akshika47> I am working on ticket which needs to be merged with the 1.10.x, when I checkout to 1.10.x OrderServiceTest-reviseDiscontinuedOrders.xml file seems to be missing, Which needs to be changed for the ticket.
22:34:17 <Akshika47> is there a way to get it rather than manually copying it from the source and saving it in the proper places
22:34:44 <djazayeri> Akshika47: have you updated to the latest code from git?
22:35:03 <djazayeri> Akshika47: e.g. something like "git pull —rebase upstream 1.10.x"
22:35:18 <Akshika47> hmmm nope.
22:35:36 <Akshika47> would that cause "one file" to be missing?
22:35:47 <Akshika47> rather than few lines
22:35:48 <Akshika47> :/
22:36:20 <djazayeri> Akshika47: I mean, when did you check out the code? is it possible it was added after you checked out the code?
22:36:42 <Akshika47> sure I will do that
22:36:43 <Akshika47> :)
22:36:50 <Akshika47> hope that will help
22:36:54 <Akshika47> and by the way
22:37:13 <Akshika47> I made a pull request for a ticket which has been reported by you
22:37:19 <Akshika47> Trunk-2873
22:37:30 <Akshika47> if you find some time, please review it
22:37:43 <djazayeri> Akshika47: okay; I am unlikely to be the one that reviews it; probably dkayiwa or rafa will do so
22:38:18 <Akshika47> djazayeri: sure, sure :D
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22:39:51 <Akshika47> djazayeri: is the syntax correct to pull from git
22:39:55 <Akshika47> what you have given?
22:40:08 <djazayeri> Akshika47: I think so, but ask google
22:40:18 <Akshika47> sure :)
22:40:19 <Akshika47> thank u
22:40:23 <andrew_sz> I'm new here, and followed the new developer's instructions. Just made a pull request, did I do everything right? https://github.com/openmrs/openmrs-core/pull/671
22:40:27 <djazayeri> Akshika47: the point is, you want to have the 1.10.x branch checked out, and then you want to update it
22:41:12 <Akshika47> djazayeri: yes,I got the point clearly :)
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22:56:55 <wluyima> hi djazayeri
22:57:05 <djazayeri> hi wluyima
22:58:41 <wluyima> djazayeri: can you give me a use case for specifying map types when search for drug(s) by mappings? i term codes are supposed to be unique in a concept source
22:59:14 <wluyima> djazayeri: can you give me a use case for specifying map types when searching for drug(s) by mappings? term codes are supposed to be unique in a concept source
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22:59:36 <djazayeri> wluyima: a drug may be SAME-AS rxnorm 12345 and NARROWER-THAN rxnorm 2345
23:00:09 <djazayeri> wluyima: codes are unique in a source, but a Drug (or Concept) may be mapped to more than one term in a source (with different map types)
23:00:41 <wluyima> djazayeri: okay
23:01:14 <wluyima> djazayeri: this means we have a problem in core for concepts
23:01:52 <wluyima> djazayeri: because off the top of my head the API won't let you add a mapping to a concept to the same reference term, so i assumed this is never possible
23:03:01 <djazayeri> wluyima: the point is that multiple drugs may be mapped to RXNORM:12345, but I may want to query to only find ones that are mapped as SAME-AS
23:03:05 <djazayeri> wluyima: I have to run now
23:03:31 <wluyima> djazayeri: ok, i get what you are saying but let me check if the API allows that in the first place
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23:18:44 <shubh> i am currently working on https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-3779. In this is old password field necessary for changing the secret question or answer.
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23:24:26 <shubh> djazayeri: i am currently working on https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-3779. In this is old password field necessary for changing the secret question or answer?
23:29:26 <downey> shubh: You might be better off asking the question as a comment on the JIRA issue.
23:30:02 <shubh> downey: ok thanks
23:30:31 <downey> shubh: Also, did you check with Ashish Kumar before taking over that issue from him/her?
23:30:51 <shubh> downey: yes i checked with him
23:30:56 <downey> shubh: ok :)
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23:39:19 <andrew_sz> I'm working on TRUNK-3197, have I done everything right? I mean, the comments, the pull request, the code review request?
23:41:56 <downey> !ticket TRUNK-3197
23:41:57 <OpenMRSBot> downey: [#TRUNK-3197] Add an option for each sort Obs on each column in asc/desc - OpenMRS JIRA - https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-3197
23:42:48 <downey> andrew_sz: looks good to me ... you'll likely hear back on the pull request soon
23:42:55 <downey> andrew_sz: and/or an update on the JIRA issue
23:44:01 <andrew_sz> downey: thank you!
23:44:15 <downey> andrew_sz: no problem :)
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23:48:56 <andrew_sz> downey: do you think it is a problem that i'm not so experienced with medical things, but i'd like to contribute to this project?
23:49:27 <downey> andrew_sz: no problem. we have plenty of people in the project who are deep experts in health informatics.
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23:52:26 <andrew_sz> downey: i'd like to participate to gsoc2014, and I'd like to choose an unassigned project, whom I need to talk with?
23:52:57 <downey> andrew_sz: are you talking about one that's not listed next to a mentor's name on our wiki page?
23:53:08 <andrew_sz> downey: exactly
23:54:04 <downey> andrew_sz: see if the project you are interested in has any contacts listed on its wiki page. if not (or if you get a negative/non-response) then write our dev@ mailing list introducing yourself and asking if anyone would be interested in working with you on Project X
23:56:48 <andrew_sz> wow, the wiki page must have changed, because now I see the project next to a mentor, Pascal Brandt
23:57:37 <downey> andrew_sz: aha, great :)
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23:59:03 <andrew_sz> downey: do you know does he use this channel?
23:59:46 <downey> andrew_sz: he often does, when he's awake. :)