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| 12:25:35 | <Aritz> Hello, good morning. |
| 12:25:43 | <Aritz> how are you? |
| 12:27:44 | <Aritz> my name is Aritz, computer engineer and new in this OpenMRS world :) . So first, I would really like to congrats and thank everyone in this great community |
| 12:28:19 | <harshadura> hello Aritz :) welcome to OpenMRS |
| 12:28:23 | <Aritz> we are trying to implement OpenMRS in South America, and i would need some help :D |
| 12:28:42 | <Aritz> thanks Harshadura, nice to meet you |
| 12:28:48 | <harshadura> glad to help Aritz |
| 12:29:00 | <harshadura> Aritz: let us know your problems |
| 12:29:09 | <Aritz> so far i have no "problems" |
| 12:29:10 | <Aritz> haha |
| 12:29:18 | <harshadura> Aritz: ok :) |
| 12:29:36 | <Aritz> but i think that one of the first things i would need is to import the dictionary records to my local db |
| 12:29:45 | <Aritz> i have deplyed OpenMRS on a linux box |
| 12:30:15 | <Aritz> and well, the installation already came with many concepts |
| 12:30:35 | <Aritz> however, i would need to import the MVP DB |
| 12:31:06 | <Aritz> with the mappings to SNOMED, as the software will be working in Spanish speaking countries |
| 12:31:15 | <Aritz> and i am not sure how to do it |
| 12:31:29 | <Aritz> i wrote btw to Andrew Kanter |
| 12:32:09 | <Aritz> but i thought that maybe here i could get a faster response and avoid bugging him too much :D |
| 12:32:10 | <harshadura> Aritz: the best way to do that is: get a SQL dump and export it on the other machine's database. because there's no proper import plugin in the system yet |
| 12:32:25 | <Aritz> alright, it is not a problem |
| 12:32:33 | <Aritz> but, where can I find the SQL dump? |
| 12:32:48 | <Aritz> in confluence i saw a reference to a dropbox |
| 12:33:05 | <Aritz> and that's why i wrote Andrew |
| 12:33:44 | <Aritz> but i would like to show the software on monday to the health program manager |
| 12:33:54 | <Aritz> any chance i could get the dump today :D |
| 12:34:01 | <harshadura> Aritz: thats MVP CIEL concept dictionary which can be used as a base |
| 12:34:25 | <Aritz> yep |
| 12:34:55 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: if all you want is a demo, then the standalone version already has the MVP CIEL dictionary |
| 12:35:35 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: si just download and run it |
| 12:35:39 | <Aritz> ah! but i already installed it in server as i wanted to play with all the admin features and try modules |
| 12:36:03 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: you can have both. they will not interfere with one another :) |
| 12:36:19 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: else you will have to wait for Andy :) |
| 12:36:28 | <Aritz> ah! that might work |
| 12:36:29 | <Aritz> ah ok |
| 12:36:30 | <Aritz> cool |
| 12:36:36 | <harshadura> dkayiwa: sorry didn't knew that :) |
| 12:36:37 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: am just giving you more options :) |
| 12:36:51 | <dkayiwa> harshadura: :) |
| 12:36:54 | <Aritz> yep and they are very appreciated |
| 12:36:57 | <Aritz> :) |
| 12:37:07 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: :) |
| 12:37:14 | <Aritz> i guess i will also install the standalone version |
| 12:37:21 | <Aritz> i have another functional question |
| 12:37:46 | <Aritz> because for me it is not very clear which is an Encounter, Visit and the relation between them |
| 12:38:04 | <Aritz> i have read the documentation but still and i a bit confused cuzz when i try to create a new visit |
| 12:38:30 | <Aritz> it is mandatory to have an Encounter |
| 12:38:52 | <Aritz> am i right? |
| 12:39:18 | <harshadura> Aritz: i also had a tough time understanding them :) |
| 12:39:23 | <Aritz> hahaha |
| 12:39:40 | <Aritz> and i f do not understand them.... the doctors will have tough times also haha |
| 12:40:39 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: http://www.slideshare.net/djazayeri/visits-in-openmrs-19 |
| 12:40:41 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/AjLL> (at www.slideshare.net) |
| 12:40:59 | <Aritz> btw i want to share with you where we would like to deploy openMRS. In our country (Colombia) we have problems to provide healthcare to remote areas |
| 12:41:10 | <Aritz> so |
| 12:41:24 | <Aritz> the idea will be to install OpenMRS locally in that areas and also in the capital |
| 12:41:40 | <Aritz> in order to allow specialist to provide advise to doctors which work in that areas |
| 12:41:44 | <Aritz> :) |
| 12:42:03 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: a visit is patient going to hospital |
| 12:42:28 | <Aritz> (I am pretty excited with the project as there are a huge community of people who will take advantage in their daily life of this improvement) |
| 12:42:31 | <Aritz> alright |
| 12:42:35 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: an encounter is patient provider interactions for various things, hence a single visit may have many encounters |
| 12:42:35 | <Aritz> i will check the presentation |
| 12:43:15 | <Aritz> so.... when we will do the admision to the hospital |
| 12:43:16 | <Aritz> ... |
| 12:43:25 | <Aritz> why is it needed to have an encounter? |
| 12:43:53 | <Aritz> i mean, the encounter most likely will happen later on once the patient is provided by any service |
| 12:43:55 | <Aritz> no? |
| 12:44:48 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: Historical note: Encounters were supposed to be what Visits are, but we got them wrong :) |
| 12:45:54 | <Aritz> sorry if i sound like stupid .... :( but i prefer to ask than get it totally wrong |
| 12:47:05 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: http://en.flossmanuals.net/openmrs-guide/openmrs-information-model/ |
| 12:47:07 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/+vqx> (at en.flossmanuals.net) |
| 12:47:18 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: look under Encounters |
| 12:47:37 | <harshadura> Aritz: do u understand observations ? think like encounter is a set of observations |
| 12:48:25 | <Aritz> ah! so an encounter is the interactions between a doctor/provider with a patient right? |
| 12:49:22 | <harshadura> Aritz: dont get the english mean of it, its just another *concept* in openmrs :) |
| 12:49:24 | <Aritz> and a visit is the aggregation of many interactions. It represent the whole chain of interactions that a patient had during the visit? |
| 12:49:30 | <Aritz> ah! ok |
| 12:49:31 | <Aritz> haha |
| 12:49:49 | <Aritz> that has been burning my brain last week |
| 12:49:49 | <Aritz> haha |
| 12:50:05 | <harshadura> Aritz: :) |
| 12:50:26 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: you got it now :) |
| 12:50:52 | <Aritz> the presentation you provided me!!! that first slide!! |
| 12:50:58 | <Aritz> that's key! |
| 12:50:59 | <Aritz> :D |
| 12:51:19 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: yes the next slides are not good for you now :) |
| 12:51:31 | <Aritz> Aritz's multi-takins engine.... -1 item hahah |
| 12:51:50 | <Aritz> thanks thanks! |
| 12:52:00 | <Aritz> so.... my question is.... |
| 12:52:00 | <Aritz> haha |
| 12:52:09 | <Aritz> i am trying to create a visit |
| 12:52:29 | <Aritz> so i am the receptionist of my hospital |
| 12:52:48 | <Aritz> what am is supposed to introduce in encounter? |
| 12:53:00 | <Aritz> nothing? |
| 12:53:52 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: you may just register or search for patient :) |
| 12:54:22 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: then forward their records to provider/doctor |
| 12:54:55 | <Aritz> alright |
| 12:56:40 | <k-joseph> dkayiwa: hi |
| 12:57:15 | <Aritz> ok i think i kind of start to understand this :D |
| 12:58:21 | <Aritz> one more question, based on your experience, we have this need. Our hospitals n the provices will have some equipment which might output some images like (Ray-X) and stuff |
| 12:58:33 | <k-joseph> dkayiwa: is the liquibase-core-data.xml automatically executed for every test? |
| 12:58:50 | <Aritz> is there a way to link this kind of info to the patients record? |
| 12:58:51 | <Aritz> :) |
| 12:59:05 | <Aritz> or how do you usually do it? with a shared folder or similar? |
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| 12:59:49 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: i think there could be a module handling patient images/files |
| 13:00:05 | <Aritz> because it is key to allow doctors in the capital to see the results of some tests |
| 13:00:06 | <Aritz> ah! |
| 13:00:09 | <Aritz> i will look for it |
| 13:00:13 | <Aritz> that might be cool |
| 13:00:15 | <dkayiwa> k-joseph: am not farmiliar with liquibase unit tests |
| 13:00:16 | <Aritz> let me see |
| 13:00:19 | <Aritz> :) |
| 13:01:36 | <harshadura> Aritz: you could use OpenMRS complex observations for that which will be saving on the hard disk rather than DB |
| 13:01:50 | <Aritz> ah |
| 13:01:51 | <Aritz> ! |
| 13:02:06 | <Aritz> ummm let me investigate it also |
| 13:02:07 | <Aritz> :) |
| 13:02:17 | <harshadura> Aritz: Encounters can have complex observations so those kind of image/binary data can be saved on them. |
| 13:02:50 | <Aritz> ah! that might work, indeed it matches with the concept of Encounter.... |
| 13:02:50 | <k-joseph> dkayiwa: am referung to the deamon user in one of my queries by its uuid, and its entry is in that dataset file, do i need to manually add its execute method or it's automatically excecuted as the standardard-dataset file |
| 13:03:08 | <k-joseph> referung referrinng |
| 13:04:02 | <Aritz> this module looks also very nice File Browser Module |
| 13:04:09 | <dkayiwa> k-joseph: did u try it out |
| 13:05:42 | <harshadura> Aritz: also you could create a Xform or HTML form to collect those information |
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| 13:18:00 | <Aritz> has someone had the problem that suddely the application login does not work annymore? It auto-recovers after a while, but i have no idea why..... i was trying to look for application logs, but i was not able to find them. Does the application log stuff in order to allow to debug? :D |
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| 14:01:48 | <Aritz> i have a question |
| 14:01:55 | <Aritz> in the Admin page |
| 14:02:08 | <Aritz> it says that the maximum heap size i have is 125 MB |
| 14:02:23 | <Aritz> do you know in ubuntu how can in change it? cuzz i think I already did |
| 14:02:25 | <Aritz> :D |
| 14:02:41 | <Aritz> but apparently it does not work |
| 14:02:43 | <Aritz> :( |
| 14:03:36 | <Aritz> CATALINA_OPTS=? |
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| 14:40:38 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: hi |
| 15:11:35 | <Aritz> hello dkayiwa |
| 15:11:37 | <Aritz> :) |
| 15:11:44 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: how is it going |
| 15:11:50 | <Aritz> very well |
| 15:11:59 | <Aritz> i just installed the File Browser module |
| 15:12:02 | <Aritz> and did some settings |
| 15:12:11 | <Aritz> regarding the PHP script needed |
| 15:12:19 | <Aritz> and some configuration in the global variables |
| 15:12:20 | <Aritz> :) |
| 15:12:36 | <Aritz> what i feel is that tomcat6 is pretty heavy |
| 15:12:46 | <Aritz> even i have ubuntu and 2.5GHz |
| 15:12:51 | <Aritz> with 3GB of RAM |
| 15:12:52 | <Aritz> wow |
| 15:13:16 | <Aritz> some of the operations get my CPU running to the 100% for a while |
| 15:13:22 | <Aritz> o_O |
| 15:14:09 | <Aritz> 9715 tomcat6 20 0 1795m 622m 15m S 100 20.7 7:19.44 java |
| 15:14:09 | <Aritz> 21497 root 20 0 2730m 1.3g 5948 S 1 42.6 71:00.82 java |
| 15:14:14 | <Aritz> ups |
| 15:14:24 | <Aritz> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND |
| 15:14:25 | <Aritz> 9715 tomcat6 20 0 1795m 622m 15m S 100 20.7 7:19.44 java |
| 15:14:25 | <Aritz> 21497 root 20 0 2730m 1.3g 5948 S 1 42.6 71:00.82 java |
| 15:15:00 | <Aritz> i usually restart the server |
| 15:15:30 | <Aritz> tomcat6 when it does happen, though i think that it must be some config in the server cuzz it is not normal |
| 15:15:44 | <Aritz> no? |
| 15:26:56 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: you need to mention my name every time you type if you want my irc client to notify me :) |
| 15:27:52 | <Aritz> aaaa |
| 15:27:53 | <Aritz> sorry |
| 15:27:54 | <Aritz> :D |
| 15:28:06 | <Aritz> it has been really long since i did not use IRC |
| 15:28:12 | <Aritz> like.... ealy 200s |
| 15:28:13 | <Aritz> lol |
| 15:28:14 | <Aritz> 2000s |
| 15:28:15 | <Aritz> lol |
| 15:29:15 | <Aritz> [dkayiwa] :D |
| 15:29:25 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: here you forget again :) |
| 15:29:38 | <Aritz> yeah yea |
| 15:29:39 | <Aritz> hahahahaha |
| 15:29:49 | <Aritz> i fixed at the end dkayiwa |
| 15:30:09 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: so my not responding was a blessing in disguise :) |
| 15:31:53 | <Aritz> [dkayiwa] so funny hahahah :) |
| 15:32:22 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: yes it is always sweeter when you fix things for yourself. You feel more in charge of the system :) |
| 15:32:57 | <Aritz> [dkayiwa] yeah! slowly i am getting used to the system. |
| 15:33:21 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: great!!! |
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| 17:03:12 | <Aritz> [dkayiwa] does it happen tu you that graph pictures in the patient profile does not show if you do not delete the browser cache? |
| 17:10:41 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: no |
| 17:10:50 | <Aritz> oki |
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| 17:37:44 | <Aritz> [dkayiwa] sorry for bothering, i have another question :D I have an Encounter created for a patient (let's say that the patient has arrived to the hospital) and i want to add a first encounter. Do I need to know the encounter ID number? |
| 17:38:12 | <Aritz> [djazayeri] how does it work? do i have to print for my doctors a list of all possible encounter types? |
| 17:38:55 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: the encounter id is automatically assigned |
| 17:39:04 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: so you do not need to worry about it |
| 17:39:42 | <Aritz> [dkayiwa] yep, but when i try to create an encounter inside a patent's visit, it actually asks me for an encounter ID |
| 17:39:55 | <Aritz> i does not find it based on the name |
| 17:39:56 | <Aritz> :) |
| 17:39:58 | <Aritz> :( |
| 17:43:19 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: what data do you want to capture in that encounter? |
| 17:44:31 | <Aritz> ummmm well, the guy just arrived to the hospital, to urgences, so i guess a doctor first need to do a checkup to see which is his problem |
| 17:44:32 | <Aritz> :D |
| 17:45:12 | <Aritz> [dkayiwa] |
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| 17:47:45 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: so he yet have the checkup findings/results? |
| 17:47:55 | <dkayiwa> so does he yet have the checkup findings/results? |
| 17:48:02 | <Aritz> nop |
| 17:48:21 | <Aritz> the nurse just created the visit (type urgences) |
| 17:48:28 | <Aritz> but the docotor just has arrived |
| 17:48:36 | <Aritz> and is starting the checkup dkayiwa |
| 17:48:55 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: then he does not yet need to create an encounter if he has nothing to record :) |
| 17:49:21 | <Aritz> ok let say he has find he has the blood presure to high |
| 17:49:23 | <Aritz> haha |
| 17:49:28 | <Aritz> too high sorry |
| 17:49:41 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: then he can enter them say, via a form |
| 17:50:12 | <Aritz> ah! so encounters are not something be created right away? |
| 17:50:18 | <Aritz> must them be created thorugh a form? |
| 17:51:24 | <Aritz> [dkayiwa] |
| 17:51:37 | <Aritz> (sorry i always forget to mention your nickname) |
| 17:53:15 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: a form is not a must |
| 17:53:23 | <dkayiwa> Aritz: you could as well use this: http://demo.openmrs.org/openmrs/admin/observations/obs.form |
| 17:53:41 | <Aritz> oki! |
| 17:53:51 | <Aritz> [dkayiwa] then i will study a bit more haha |
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