IRC Chat : 2013-04-18 - OpenMRS

00:49:31 <docpaul> hi :)
00:49:39 <djazayeri> yo
00:49:45 <docpaul> how are things?
00:50:08 <docpaul> sorry to introduce the community pressure. :) the sooner the better :)
00:50:12 <djazayeri> actually finally committing code today
00:50:20 <djazayeri> I appreciate the sentiment
00:50:45 <djazayeri> I'll be much more open to the conversation in a week...
00:50:46 <docpaul> the longer we waited, the worse it was going to be
00:51:19 <docpaul> i thought roger brought up a relevant comparator for you to think about
00:51:32 <djazayeri> JSS? Or the other feature?
00:51:34 <docpaul> what would really be the harm in making the entire mirebalais mingle read only?
00:52:04 <docpaul> and keeping it as a historical artifact? :)
00:52:21 <djazayeri> docpaul: in the future, you mean?
00:52:30 <docpaul> no, right now? again, read only
00:52:40 <djazayeri> you mean world-readable?
00:52:44 <docpaul> yes
00:53:22 <djazayeri> It's possible that there's stuff written in there that shouldn't be broadly shared.
00:53:31 <docpaul> patient data?
00:53:40 <djazayeri> Or organizational data.
00:53:44 <djazayeri> Maybe there isn't any.
00:54:04 <djazayeri> I'd rather prioritize moving the important things into OpenMRS JIRA
00:54:08 <docpaul> if i spent some time going through it, how do you think evan would respond to that request from me?
00:54:15 <docpaul> you need to focus on thaat
00:54:37 <djazayeri> Also, I don't think we actually have the power to make it world-readable. It's a shared mingle instance across many TW social impact projects.
00:54:59 <docpaul> i see... who would ultimately know the answer to that? breeze?
00:55:22 <djazayeri> Not sure. Emerson and Neil have been the Mingle leads.
00:55:27 <docpaul> k
00:55:44 <docpaul> trying to think of ways to bridge conversations on mailing lists, etc in the meantime
00:55:51 <docpaul> it'd be nice to point to cards, etc
00:56:20 <docpaul> that is not your worry at this point.. but it's a way we might be able to let people see things
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00:56:44 <docpaul> i'd be happy to work through it
00:56:54 <djazayeri> Yeah, I'm more interested in spending whatever time getting JIRA ready and moving tickets there.
00:57:01 <docpaul> as you should
00:57:17 <docpaul> but a lot of the historical design thinking is over there
00:57:24 <docpaul> and that'll be important i bet
00:59:15 <docpaul> as an aside, do you prefer mingle over jira?
00:59:27 <docpaul> do you suspect that we might think about mingle at some point in the future?
00:59:43 <djazayeri> I don't think it's sufficiently better
01:00:06 <djazayeri> It's quite effective for people familiar with using it, and doing a scrum methodology
01:00:19 <docpaul> but not really a quantum leap over jira
01:00:28 <djazayeri> For OpenMRS I think JIRA is arguably better
01:00:37 <djazayeri> and its agile tools are catching up fast
01:00:40 <docpaul> k
01:02:23 <docpaul> it looks like the rapid board is the fundamental paradigm inside mingle
01:02:53 <djazayeri> yeah
01:03:16 <djazayeri> btw, the tabs along the top of this instance aren't the ones we use, since those were created globally by some other project
01:03:20 <djazayeri> we use the Team Favorites on the right
01:04:29 <docpaul> i recently got access to a private music torrent tracker... it is freaking unbelievable
01:04:49 <docpaul> there must be 300k albums on there.. all of them super high quality
01:05:02 <djazayeri> nice
01:05:56 <docpaul> i've never seen anything quite like it. i went down to my basement the other day, and pulled out a bi stack of my old cd collection.... it had eps, singles, mix albums, and some rare ones
01:06:05 <docpaul> i couldnt find a single one that wasn't on this tracker
01:06:25 <docpaul> what's crazy is that all of them had perfect flac rips, along with 2-3 mp3 bitrates
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03:20:16 <docpaul> 2.6 million torrents... unreal
03:20:43 <docpaul> 160,000 users
03:20:44 <docpaul> hehe
03:28:01 <h3llborn> docpaul: which one?
03:28:05 <h3llborn> there's a few out there
03:28:13 <docpaul> what.cd
03:28:27 <docpaul> it's a music one... i'm a music nut that likes hard to find things
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03:38:17 <h3llborn> oh thats awesome
03:38:25 <h3llborn> docpaul: I'm a member at pretome.info
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08:41:02 <acorreia> hi
08:41:30 <dkayiwa> acorreia: hi
08:41:40 <acorreia> sorry for bother you again :)
08:41:45 <acorreia> so the problem is
08:41:54 <acorreia> when I edit an encounter
08:42:01 <acorreia> using the xforms template
08:42:09 <acorreia> the data does not appear
08:42:18 <acorreia> the latest data inserted for one patient
08:42:25 <acorreia> so I was wondering
08:42:26 <dkayiwa> acorreia: can you mention my name whenever you type?
08:42:36 <acorreia> ehhe
08:42:38 <dkayiwa> acorreia: that way my chat window will alert me
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08:43:55 <acorreia> is there any shortcut to mention names?
08:44:33 <dkayiwa> acorreia: type the first character and the press the TAB key
08:45:00 <acorreia> dkayiwa: right :)
08:45:19 <acorreia> dkayiwa: so the problem is that I'm not seeing
08:45:43 <acorreia> dkayiwa: the data inserted when I click in "edit Encounter"
08:46:12 <acorreia> dkayiwa: I was wondering if some configuration is missing concerning xForms, or the concepts used in that form
08:47:20 <dkayiwa> acorreia: is it all data or just some data?
08:48:00 <acorreia> dkayiwa: just some data
08:48:10 <dkayiwa> acorreia: like?
08:48:22 <acorreia> dkayiwa: the header in the form with patient name displays correctly
08:48:31 <acorreia> dkayiwa: for example, HEIGHT
08:48:40 <acorreia> dkayiwa: the concept Height
08:48:53 <acorreia> dkayiwa: does not retrieve the latest value recorded
08:49:24 <dkayiwa> acorreia: while in the form designer, select save as from the file menu. then paste the file contents at pastebin.com and send me here the url
08:50:58 <acorreia> dkayiwa: ok
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08:51:57 <acorreia> dkayiwa: I've already saved the form
08:53:25 <acorreia> dkayiwa: I have to create an account on pastebin?
08:53:57 <dkayiwa> acorreia: no
08:56:23 <acorreia> dkayiwa: http://pastebin.com/iuQAJCqz
08:57:37 <acorreia> dkayiwa: you can also try this one, it's the same http://pastebin.com/h8DKyTTg
08:57:59 <dkayiwa> acorreia: whats the difference?
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09:08:11 <acorreia> dkayiwa: none
09:08:28 <acorreia> I've just put 2 times
09:08:29 <dkayiwa> acorreia: did you just copy text from the browser?
09:08:30 <acorreia> sorry
09:08:39 <acorreia> yes
09:08:59 <dkayiwa> acorreia: thats not correct
09:09:01 <acorreia> dkayiwa: yes, should I copy from the XFORMS designer?
09:09:11 <dkayiwa> acorreia: from the saved file
09:09:20 <dkayiwa> acorreia: open it with notepad
09:10:50 <acorreia> dkayiwa: http://pastebin.com/3nkpRRTR
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09:16:18 <dkayiwa> acorreia: so the form submits data correctly for the first time. not so?
09:16:51 <acorreia> dkayiwa: yes
09:17:00 <acorreia> but then when consulting them
09:17:08 <acorreia> the data does no appear
09:17:16 <dkayiwa> acorreia: can you send me a screenshot which shows that data does not appear?
09:17:35 <dkayiwa> acorreia: put the screen shot here: http://snag.gy/
09:18:07 <dkayiwa> acorreia: oh wait
09:18:16 <dkayiwa> acorreia: i think i know why
09:18:27 <dkayiwa> acorreia: can you go to the form schema screen?
09:24:17 <acorreia> dkayiwa: sure
09:24:31 <acorreia> dkayiwa: I'm there
09:24:44 <dkayiwa> acorreia: then check the form's OBS section and tell me what concept its linked to
09:26:20 <acorreia> dkayiwa: OBS is linked to all concepts thar appear on the FORM
09:26:38 <acorreia> dkayiwa: for example HEIGHT
09:26:52 <dkayiwa> acorreia: double click to edit the OBS section
09:27:04 <dkayiwa> acorreia: there you will see what i mean
09:27:41 <acorreia> dkayiwa: now it appears that is ANEMIA
09:27:59 <dkayiwa> acorreia: thats not correct
09:28:07 <acorreia> dkayiwa: the concept related with OBS
09:28:14 <dkayiwa> acorreia: its supposed to be MEDICAL RECORDS OBSERVATIONS
09:29:40 <acorreia> dkayiwa: this shall be to all forms?
09:29:48 <dkayiwa> acorreia: yes
09:30:28 <acorreia> dkayiwa: but I have other forms that the editing works
09:30:47 <acorreia> dkayiwa: and the concept defined is ANEMIA
09:31:09 <dkayiwa> acorreia: after changing it, you need to open each form in the designer, right click on the form name under the form fields panel, select refresh from the menu the pops up, then save the form
09:31:17 <dkayiwa> acorreia: can you send me any of such forms?
09:32:04 <acorreia> dkayiwa: sure
09:33:37 <acorreia> dkayiwa: http://pastebin.com/qTvkbsk1
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09:34:29 <dkayiwa> acorreia: ok do the above and tell me what happens
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09:41:16 <acorreia> dkayiwa: it works normally
09:41:27 <acorreia> dkayiwa: as it was before
09:41:32 <dkayiwa> acorreia: fixed?
09:41:49 <acorreia> dkayiwa: for this reason I can only assume that is something concerning the concepts in the Vitals Form
09:42:43 <acorreia> dkayiwa: because only for the Vital Forms I can't see the data
09:43:01 <dkayiwa> acorreia: did the change fix it?
09:43:09 <acorreia> dkayiwa: no
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09:45:05 <dkayiwa> acorreia: send me the form again
09:45:45 <acorreia> dkayiwa: I'll send you the one that does not work
09:46:05 <dkayiwa> acorreia: the one you have just change as per my instructions
09:46:39 <acorreia> dkayiwa: I've changed both
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09:46:52 <acorreia> dkayiwa: one continued to work, other didn't
09:47:18 <dkayiwa> ok
09:48:15 <acorreia> dkayiwa: I'll send first the one working
09:48:35 <dkayiwa> acorreia: no
09:48:42 <dkayiwa> acorreia: the one which does not work
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09:49:22 <acorreia> dkayiwa: http://pastebin.com/fdBUWqQu
09:49:52 <acorreia> dkayiwa: sorry . This one works
09:49:55 <acorreia> dkayiwa: http://pastebin.com/fdBUWqQu
09:50:23 <dkayiwa> acorreia: you do not seem to have done the instructions i told you above
09:51:23 <mani__> Is steven githens in here
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09:56:55 <acorreia> dkayiwa: I've did everything you told again, chenge to medical obs and refresh form and save it, this one does not work
09:56:56 <acorreia> http://pastebin.com/3Wx7vDLj
09:57:45 <dkayiwa> acorreia: send me a screen shot which shows that data is missing
09:57:57 <dkayiwa> acorreia: send it here: http://snag.gy/
09:58:59 <acorreia> first view
09:59:03 <acorreia> dkayiwa: http://snag.gy/pfGRh.jpg
09:59:54 <dkayiwa> acorreia: but i see weight there
10:00:11 <acorreia> dkayiwa: and then when I click Edit Encounter http://snag.gy/Mz7Kx.jpg
10:00:43 <acorreia> dkayiwa: but when editing does not appear
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10:01:42 <dkayiwa> acorreia: while in the form designer, tick the enabled property for each of those fields
10:03:13 <acorreia> dkayiwa: already done
10:03:21 <acorreia> dkayiwa: still does not appear
10:03:37 <acorreia> dkayiwa: :(
10:04:27 <dkayiwa> acorreia: which version of the module?
10:05:26 <acorreia> dkayiwa: 4.1.0.1
10:05:39 <acorreia> dkayiwa: as I said before, on other forms it works
10:05:53 <acorreia> dkayiwa: so the problem is with tis form concepts I think
10:06:11 <acorreia> dkayiwa: maybe it will be better if I do the form from scratch
10:07:02 <dkayiwa> acorreia: you do not need to
10:07:54 <dkayiwa> acorreia: can you try any other browser and tell me if the data shows?
10:08:02 <acorreia> dkayiwa: sure
10:09:32 <acorreia> dkayiwa: in IE its has the same behaviour
10:09:52 <acorreia> dkayiwa: I have to go to lunch
10:09:59 <dkayiwa> acorreia: ok
10:10:03 <acorreia> dkayiwa: thank you very much for your help
10:10:12 <dkayiwa> acorreia: yo welcome
10:10:19 <acorreia> dkayiwa: really, thank you very much
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11:04:42 <GitHub130> [openmrs-core] dkayiwa pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/htB7iQ
11:04:42 <GitHub130> openmrs-core/master 7cc59d9 dkayiwa: An at attempt to fix: Potential Memory Leak reported by Tomcat 7 -...
11:04:42 <GitHub130> openmrs-core/master ad0aab9 dkayiwa: Cleaning up the keep alive timer thread for: Potential Memory Leak...
11:04:42 <GitHub130> openmrs-core/master e439a88 dkayiwa: Merge pull request #276 from dkayiwa/TRUNK-3056...
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11:21:18 <travis-ci> [travis-ci] [openmrs/openmrs-core] [e439a88] [dkayiwa] The build passed. - http://travis-ci.org/openmrs/openmrs-core/builds/6441873
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14:01:49 <GitHub62> [openmrs-core] NameFILIP opened pull request #278: TRUNK-3453: please add javadoc to orderType so that coders know what they're supposed to do instead (master...TRUNK-3453) http://git.io/9RFpGQ
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15:02:58 <emerson> wyclif: standup! :)
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15:06:59 <rafaelav> hi! I am trying to install openMRS on my computer following the instructions from https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Installing+OpenMRS. I've set up a jetty environment and the openMRS using the default option (not configure one). Now I'm trying to log in and I've tested a lot of options (admin:admin, admin:test, openmrs:openmrs etc) and I don't seem to find out what's the right option. Can I get some advice?
15:09:00 <harsz89> use
15:09:02 <harsz89> admin
15:09:09 <harsz89> rafaelav, hi rafaelav
15:09:31 <harsz89> harshadura, can you use admin: Admin123 and try
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15:09:45 <harsz89> harshadura, sorry
15:09:59 <harsz89> rafaelav, can you use admin: Admin123 and try :)
15:10:37 <rafaelav> unfortunately this doesn't seem to work either
15:11:16 <harshadura> harsz89, np :)
15:11:33 <harsz89> rafaelav, did you got any errors during installation ?
15:11:35 <rafaelav> When installing, after choosing the basic install method (first one), the only options that I could set up were regarding the mysql database
15:11:39 <harsz89> harshadura, :)
15:11:41 <rafaelav> no I didn't
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15:12:00 <rafaelav> but during install I didn't get screens such as the ones in step 6.4, 6.5
15:12:38 <rafaelav> it took some time to install (I had selected to also add test data) and it seemed to complete without any errors
15:13:01 <harsz89> rafaelav, you use the build from latest openMRS master branch right?
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15:14:05 <harsz89> rafaelav, default password as i know is
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15:14:12 <harsz89> rafaelav, username :admin
15:14:15 <rafaelav> It's the latest stable download from the http://openmrs.org/download/ page
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15:15:44 <harshadura> rafaelav: If I remember correctly the new wizard lets u to choose your own admin passcode.
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15:17:12 <sunbiz> rafaelav: sounds like this - https://answers.openmrs.org/questions/1198/unable-to-login-to-openmrs-after-installing-it-on-ubuntu
15:17:32 <rafaelav> hmm... in my case it didn't ask for configuring this... :( maybe it's because I selected the Basic install mode?
15:18:47 <rafaelav> sunbiz, seems like it's the same issue
15:19:05 <rafaelav> thanks, I'll try then to reinstall openmrs
15:19:19 <sunbiz> rafaelav: the basic install sets a default password... doesnt show the prompt to set ur own admin password
15:19:56 <rafaelav> so there's no way to find out that default password?
15:21:26 <rafaelav> sorry for bugging you this much, but is there any fast/proper way to uninstall the current version that I've installed?
15:21:46 <sunbiz> rafaelav: u can run reverse hashing... with a GPU and some brute forcing app... there was something in hackernews
15:22:16 <sunbiz> rafaelav: but the quickest would be to reinstall... or copy the hash+salt from a known database
15:22:47 <sunbiz> rafaelav: just delete the openmrs-runtime.properties and drop the database
15:23:51 <rafaelav> great. thanks! :)
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18:58:50 <cpower> Hello!
18:58:57 <cpower> Ready to scrum?
19:00:19 <cpower> Let's do that scrum thing
19:00:23 <cpower> !scrumon cjpower
19:00:23 * OpenMRSBot says the DAILY SCRUM MEETING is STARTING. This meeting should not last longer than 15 minutes. Please hold other comments until the end of the meeting, or message someone privately. Thank you! ScrumMaster cjpower- you may begin when ready.
19:01:32 <cpower> Order: djazayeri_may_be , mseaton , dkayiwa , suranga , wyclif
19:02:36 <wyclif> ?
19:03:04 <cpower> djazayeri: you are up
19:03:25 <djazayeri> cpower: um, still on a call, delay
19:04:04 <cpower> ok next
19:04:08 <cpower> so dkayiwa
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19:04:54 <cpower> ok...
19:04:59 <cpower> wyclif:
19:05:02 <wyclif> Wednesday:
19:05:02 <wyclif> -Sprint hangout with HUM team
19:05:02 <wyclif> -Design call
19:05:02 <wyclif> -Setting up my dev environment in relation to the current sprint
19:05:02 <wyclif> -CARD 524 - Upgrade Mirebalais to use App Framework 2.0
19:05:03 <wyclif> Thursday:
19:05:05 <wyclif> -dev call
19:05:07 <wyclif> -Continue work on CARD 524 - Upgrade Mirebalais to use App Framework 2.0
19:05:09 <wyclif>
19:05:11 <wyclif> Blockers: None
19:05:19 <dkayiwa> Done some commits on: Investigate possible memory leak in 1.9.0 or one of its bundled modules. - TRUNK-3440
19:05:19 <dkayiwa> Dev Call
19:05:20 <dkayiwa> Doing final round of investigation and commit for: Investigate possible memory leak in 1.9.0 or one of its bundled modules. - TRUNK-3440
19:05:20 <dkayiwa> No Blockers
19:05:27 <cpower> good deal
19:05:33 <cpower> thanks everyone
19:05:36 <cpower> !scrumoff
19:05:36 * OpenMRSBot says the DAILY SCRUM MEETING has ENDED. This channel is now returned to normal hacking operations. Post-scrum meeting follow-up conversations may now begin.
19:06:30 <djazayeri> my report
19:06:30 <djazayeri> Yesterday
19:06:30 <djazayeri> * IPM (Iteration Planning Meeting) for Mirebalais + Reference Application work
19:06:30 <djazayeri> * OpenMRS calls
19:06:30 <djazayeri> * Finished Mirebalais #470 - Differentiate between suspected and confirmed diagnoses
19:06:30 <djazayeri> * Finished Mirebalais #523 - Diagnosis order (primary vs secondary) is not localized when viewing encounter details on the dashboard
19:06:31 <djazayeri> Today
19:06:31 <djazayeri> * Fix HTML-456 - The encounterProviderAndRole tag should not fail if there are providers whose person is voided
19:06:32 <djazayeri> * More tickets
19:06:32 <djazayeri> * More calls
19:06:33 <djazayeri> no blockers
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21:32:26 <GitHub175> [openmrs-core] dkayiwa opened pull request #279: Fixing problem where OpenmrsClassScanner led to an OpenmrsClassLoader memory leak for each application context refresh: Investigate possible memory leak in 1.9.0 or one of its bundled modules. - TRUNK-3440 (master...TRUNK-3056) http://git.io/auj1vw
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21:32:44 <docpaul> !seen breeze
21:32:44 <OpenMRSBot> docpaul: breeze was last seen in #openmrs 2 days, 3 hours, 28 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <breeze> djazayeri: maven3 installed it's global settings.xml in a different location than maven2
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21:32:54 <docpaul> hmm
21:33:06 <docpaul> any word on where he's been?
21:33:34 <djazayeri> docpaul: no; he just emailed that he's unavailable tomorrow
21:33:45 <docpaul> what about the past 2 days?
21:34:21 <djazayeri> docpaul: he said he was out monday for a PT appointment and for dealing with car repair and insurance issues
21:34:28 <djazayeri> docpaul: same reason for tomrrow
21:34:34 <djazayeri> docpaul: but I was expecting him to be around today
21:34:41 <docpaul> hmm
21:34:46 <docpaul> do we have an email address for him?
21:34:59 <djazayeri> docpaul: he was on the IPM yesterday and I think did something
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21:40:11 <docpaul> djazayeri: while I have your attention... what will it take to expose the style guide to the reference application? trying to understand the layers of what you all have done in code
21:41:07 <djazayeri> docpaul: http://devtest01.openmrs.org:8080/openmrs/uicommons/styleGuide.page
21:41:18 <djazayeri> docpaul: still a work in progress
21:41:21 <docpaul> oh, freaking hot
21:41:25 <docpaul> i didnt know that was there
21:41:35 <djazayeri> docpaul: I didn't know they'd put that there until yesterday either. :-)
21:41:49 <docpaul> how does one blend that into the homepage? i presume just by referencing it?
21:42:07 <docpaul> damn, this is fan-tastic
21:42:28 <CaptianCoder> hi, I am interested in applying for OPW, and I was told to work on starting off as a developer. I configured eclipse, as the instructions said, and I am trying to figure out how to work on a ticket.
21:42:40 <djazayeri> docpaul: the idea is that it includes both some global styling (e.g. set the font, change the way buttons look) as well as mixins that you can add to your own custom page styles
21:43:06 <docpaul> welcome to the community, CaptianCoder!
21:43:08 <docpaul> :)
21:43:18 <docpaul> do you know how to find "starter tickets" CaptianCoder ?
21:43:21 <CaptianCoder> Thank you!
21:43:32 <docpaul> i have to run and teach a class here soon, but i'll do what i can to help in the meantime. )
21:43:34 <docpaul> er, :)
21:43:43 <CaptianCoder> Yes I looked through the tickets, but I am not sure how I can start workin on one
21:44:22 <CaptianCoder> So far I forked the core from git hub, and I am importing it into eclipse
21:44:28 <docpaul> so, you can properly identify a starter ticket?
21:44:31 <docpaul> did you claim one?
21:45:13 <docpaul> not sure if you saw this?
21:45:14 <docpaul> https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Getting+Started+as+a+Developer
21:45:15 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8bkO> (at wiki.openmrs.org)
21:45:26 <CaptianCoder> oh not yet, but I am thinking about working with the first one thats listed
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21:46:17 <CaptianCoder> Whats a starter ticket?
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21:47:07 <docpaul> so, if you go to that link I showed above? you'll see both a link to a list of starter/intro tickets, and at the bottom a table
21:47:12 <docpaul> do you see those?
21:47:43 <CaptianCoder> Oh yes I did go through that list.
21:48:21 <djazayeri> CaptianCoder: generally the idea is (1) read the ticket, (2) if you don't know what to do next, post a comment on the ticket asking, (3) do it.
21:48:22 <sunbiz> hi docpaul ... how are u doing??
21:48:29 <CaptianCoder> How do I claim it?
21:48:36 <djazayeri> CaptianCoder: some tickets have more thorough descriptions than others
21:48:40 <sunbiz> enjoyed the dev call today... very thought-provoking discussions
21:48:51 <docpaul> those are all intro tickets and have been pre-curated to be a good place to start...
21:48:52 <djazayeri> CaptianCoder: you should see a "Claim Ticket" button at the top of the screen.
21:49:04 <docpaul> do you have an openmrs id and are you logged into jira?
21:49:13 <docpaul> then look for what djazayeri has described above
21:49:22 <docpaul> sunbiz: we had a bit of a breakthrough today, i think
21:49:30 <docpaul> i enjoyed it too...
21:49:48 <sunbiz> docpaul: yes... it helped me learn many things
21:50:13 <sunbiz> docpaul: something the reviewers for my research highlighted as well
21:50:26 <docpaul> we have been conflating a collection of issues which has stalled releasing useful things
21:50:27 <sunbiz> docpaul: would u like to take a look at my paper on OpenMRS Scrum??
21:50:31 <docpaul> sure
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21:51:07 <sunbiz> docpaul: gr8!!
21:51:07 <docpaul> i think today was the first day that I thought we pulled some of those issues apart and more importantly operationalized a way to keep them separate
21:52:18 <sunbiz> docpaul: I also start my travel from tomorrow to start making a SEAR strategy doc for OpenMRS
21:52:24 <docpaul> "core" is getting to a place where it is relatively more stable than it was in years in the past... so the idea of feature adds within minor releases, and separating them out from non-backwards compatible changes was key
21:52:45 <docpaul> sunbiz: so you'll do that for her then?
21:52:53 <docpaul> does that include functional requirements?
21:53:09 <docpaul> as you might be able to see, she's pretty committed to a grand agenda
21:53:15 <sunbiz> docpaul: yes, some basic stuff
21:53:21 <docpaul> and she seems reasonable enough and realistic
21:53:31 <sunbiz> yes, she is... but there some issues to see whats practical
21:53:45 <docpaul> my initial impression is a lot more positive than other people like her that i've worked with
21:53:55 <sunbiz> docpaul: yes, very much... definitely
21:54:00 <docpaul> believe me, she's comparatively a dream. :)
21:54:26 <docpaul> CaptianCoder: did you get it figured?
21:55:14 <docpaul> sunbiz: highly likely that i'll come to the region again some point this year
21:55:22 <CaptianCoder> I am looking through the intro tickets, and I am not sure which ticket to work on now
21:55:23 <docpaul> it'd be great to see you and your wife. :)
21:55:33 <docpaul> CaptianCoder: but you now see how to claim?
21:55:34 <sunbiz> docpaul: that'll be gr8... hoping it'll be at a good time
21:56:23 <CaptianCoder> No, I haven't been able to find it, and I am logged in.
21:56:40 <CaptianCoder> Oh never I found it
21:57:39 <CaptianCoder> I am kind of unsure which intro ticket to work with. Do you have any advice that would help for my application for OPW?
21:58:20 <djazayeri> CaptianCoder: the important thing is to pick a ticket and do it; so as a general guideline, something you feel comfortable doing
21:58:56 <djazayeri> CaptianCoder: e.g. something that seems technically appropriate, or else that seems interesting, etc.
22:00:21 <djazayeri> CaptianCoder: if there are a specific few ones you are interested in, but have questions, I could give more guidance
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22:07:44 <CaptianCoder> I claimed the intro ticket of trunk 1801, and I also imported openmrs core into eclipse. Where do I go from here?
22:07:57 <djazayeri> !ticket trunk-1801
22:07:58 <OpenMRSBot> djazayeri: [#TRUNK-1801] Move the form schema viewer from htmlformentry into core - OpenMRS JIRA - https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/trunk-1801
22:08:51 <CaptianCoder> what does that mean?
22:09:08 <djazayeri> CaptianCoder: FWIW, this ticket is introductory in complexity, but it may be relatively long to do. Just to set expectations. :-)
22:09:27 <CaptianCoder> oh which one is easier then?
22:11:57 <djazayeri> CaptianCoder: I'd start with something in this list:
22:11:58 <djazayeri> https://tickets.openmrs.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=labels+%3D+intro+AND+assignee+is+EMPTY+AND+status+in+%28Open%2C+%22Ready+for+Work%22%29+and+labels+%3D+curated+order+by+votes+desc
22:12:13 <djazayeri> CaptianCoder: those should have more thorough descriptions of where to start
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22:18:11 <CaptianCoder> Ok I want to work on REPORT 420. Should I immediately claim it?
22:19:39 <djazayeri> !ticket report-420
22:19:41 <OpenMRSBot> djazayeri: [#REPORT-420] Display a list of reports using a dataset - OpenMRS JIRA - https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/report-420
22:20:45 <djazayeri> CaptianCoder: you should claim it as soon as you're "ready" to work on it, and don't want someone else picking up to work on simultaneously. I'll let you judge that, but I assume the answer is yes.
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22:27:46 <GitHub186> [openmrs-core] dkayiwa pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/-V4MPQ
22:27:46 <GitHub186> openmrs-core/master 791fb6c dkayiwa: Fixing problem where OpenmrsClassScanner led to an OpenmrsClassLoader...
22:27:46 <GitHub186> openmrs-core/master 3944a81 dkayiwa: Fixing OpenmrsClassLoader memory leak caused by threads which have a...
22:27:46 <GitHub186> openmrs-core/master 29ef241 dkayiwa: Merge pull request #279 from dkayiwa/TRUNK-3056...
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22:37:58 <travis-ci> [travis-ci] [openmrs/openmrs-core] [29ef241] [dkayiwa] The build passed. - http://travis-ci.org/openmrs/openmrs-core/builds/6458139
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