IRC Chat : 2013-03-20 - OpenMRS

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00:29:34 <robbyoconnor> burke: see PM :D
00:29:52 <robbyoconnor> Groovy Module needs TLC -- will Co-Mentor :)
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00:52:40 <downey> docpaul: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.irccloud.android ;-)
00:52:42 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/+rJQ> (at play.google.com)
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02:28:01 <docpaul> nice downey
02:28:13 * docpaul loves irccloud
02:28:39 <docpaul> the real magic is the persistence
02:28:58 <docpaul> you are permajoined, and you can easily see history whenever you log back in
02:29:21 <docpaul> fundamentally changes the paradigms we once presumed were tradeoffs of irc
02:29:35 <docpaul> irc is now better with this layer on top
02:29:55 <docpaul> i'd even argue that irc might enjoy a renaissance because of stuff like this
02:30:16 <docpaul> way better than skype or google chat
02:33:11 <downey> don't get your hopes up :)
02:49:34 <docpaul> i'm partial to irc, as i was a huge user of it starting back in college
02:49:58 <docpaul> i built some hacker communities on irc
02:50:09 <docpaul> way back in the day
02:51:43 * downey has some flashbacks to CTCP triggers
02:51:49 <docpaul> yep!
02:51:53 <docpaul> dcc send
02:51:54 <docpaul> hehe
02:51:59 <docpaul> dcc chat too
02:52:14 <docpaul> that was the more secure way to communicate sensitive topics
02:52:18 <docpaul> let's see if it still works
02:52:36 <docpaul> nope, dcc doesnt work anymore
02:52:40 <docpaul> at least not on freenode
02:53:00 <downey> not sure how irc cloud would handle that
02:53:24 <docpaul> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Client-to-Client
02:53:25 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/27nc> (at en.wikipedia.org)
02:53:47 <docpaul> it's not available via freenode actually
02:53:56 <docpaul> that command isn't valid
02:54:33 <downey> i don't think it really uses the irc network though does it?
02:54:52 <downey> more of a client command
02:56:16 <docpaul> not sure... probably not given that dcc means direct client to client
02:56:58 <docpaul> the whole warez scene started on internet via #warez and bots that had hundreds of pirate software packages available via dcc
02:57:28 <docpaul> i remember when efnet #warez had a couple dozen ppl on it and it was -i
02:57:39 <downey> undernet?
02:58:11 <docpaul> naw, efnet was all that was really available for a while... private irc servers followed that once it got more popular
02:58:34 <docpaul> i remember getting on undernet after a while
02:58:46 <docpaul> a lot of the pirate scene still uses irc to this day
02:58:59 <docpaul> if it's not broke, don't fix it
03:00:07 <docpaul> the relay part was the revolutionary idea way back when... it'd allow hundreds of people to talk in the same space at low bandwidth
03:00:20 <downey> strange how many protocols got it right fairly quickly and lasted so long
03:00:59 <docpaul> but in the old days, it was hard to see something that was meant for you to read if you weren't actively watching the window
03:01:47 <docpaul> that's where it sucked... irccloud is nice because that goes away... you dont have to have your machine actively connected to be in the channel... it's asynchronous now, but you can have the benefits when you're logged in as well
03:01:49 <docpaul> pretty cool
03:01:51 <downey> heh, yeah
03:02:20 <docpaul> the experience in chrome is tight
03:02:30 <docpaul> i dont need colloquy anymore
03:02:34 <downey> docpaul: also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRap7uw9iWI
03:03:06 <docpaul> haha, very cool
03:03:10 <docpaul> let me show you something
03:03:11 <docpaul> sec
03:03:55 <burke> docpaul: have you discovert cmd+alt+up/down? enabled notifications? (clicking a notification takes you directly to the right spot in the right channel)
03:05:00 <burke> turning off "Options > Show nick changes, joins and parts" makes the IRC stream a lot cleaner too.
03:05:24 <downey> !dcme burke
03:05:24 * OpenMRSBot slides burke a litre of coke light
03:05:33 <downey> !beerme docpaul
03:05:33 * OpenMRSBot slides docpaul a pint
03:06:00 * burke gulps it down... "Can I have another?" :)
03:06:08 <downey> !dcme burke
03:06:08 * OpenMRSBot slides burke a litre of coke light
03:06:22 * burke burps.
03:06:28 <downey> !karma dietcoke
03:06:28 <OpenMRSBot> downey: Karma for "dietcoke" has been increased 21 times and decreased 5 times for a total karma of 16.
03:06:37 <docpaul> http://sixteencolors.net/pack/ice-9403/TTLS-PG.ICE
03:06:40 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/+rM3> (at sixteencolors.net)
03:07:21 <downey> heh
03:07:37 <docpaul> http://sixteencolors.net/pack/ice-9402/TT-PG.ICE
03:07:39 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/+rM4> (at sixteencolors.net)
03:07:44 <docpaul> these were ansis for my bbs
03:07:44 <downey> very nice
03:08:44 <docpaul> i couldnt be the sysop because my mom wouldn't let me keep a separate phone line in the house
03:09:10 <docpaul> so i got a friend to host it at his house, and i built it up
03:10:07 <docpaul> i was always so amazed by ansi art
03:11:12 <downey> http://www.3dham.com/telnet/
03:11:26 <downey> we had 300 lines at one point :-P
03:12:47 <docpaul> http://sixteencolors.net/pack/ice-0493/ML-SANCT.ICE
03:12:51 <docpaul> one of my all time favorite ansis
03:12:51 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/+rM8> (at sixteencolors.net)
03:13:01 <docpaul> i remember thinking, how in the hell can someone do that with ansi blocks?
03:14:04 <downey> it's a near-lost artform
03:14:49 <docpaul> are you familar with future crew?
03:15:38 <docpaul> my god, they were amazing:
03:15:39 <docpaul> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Crew
03:16:27 <docpaul> what they did without graphics accelerators at the time was just unbelievable
03:16:37 <docpaul> second reality is a classic
03:17:37 <downey> i have heard of them but i think they were wrapped up before i really got plugged in
03:19:50 <downey> the first serious graphics/gaming stuff i followed was the development of riven which would have been just after that
03:24:43 <docpaul> these guys did 3d graphics on pcs before they had the first 3d accelerator
03:24:46 <docpaul> 3dfx
03:25:55 <docpaul> the first add in 3d accelerator card had to be done as a pass through to a conventional card.. it had an electrical switch that triggered the 3dfx card taking over when software was programmed to use it
03:26:13 <docpaul> i remember when tomb raider 3dfx came out... it was a big deal
03:27:43 <downey> expensive stuff :)
03:54:41 <r0bby> docpaul: hai
03:54:45 <r0bby> been eons :)
03:54:51 <r0bby> ...or something like that
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08:36:03 <travis-ci> [travis-ci] [kishoreyekkanti/openmrs-core] [c758e5e] [dkayiwa] The build passed. - http://travis-ci.org/kishoreyekkanti/openmrs-core/builds/5650456
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08:42:24 <shortend> What is SNOMED NP?
08:42:45 <shortend> As opposed to SNOMED CT.
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13:03:11 <shortend_> Hi there!
13:03:22 <shortend_> When is the University call?
13:09:52 <shortend_> cpower: Are we early for the University call?
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13:25:24 <sara_> @dkayiwa
13:25:32 <dkayiwa> sara_:
13:25:34 <sara_> @dkayiwa hi
13:25:38 <dkayiwa> sara_: hi
13:25:40 <sara_> :)
13:26:10 <sara_> did u have a look at TRUNK 3811? :)
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13:26:47 <dkayiwa> sara_: no :)
13:26:57 <sara_> okay :)
13:27:06 <dkayiwa> sara_: can you tell wyclif to look at it? he is the community dev this week :)
13:28:17 <sara_> okay!
13:28:35 <sara_> @wyclif hi
13:32:26 <harsz89> hi dkayiwa
13:32:39 <harsz89> dkayiwa, is rafa is not available these days?
13:32:42 <harsz89> dkayiwa, :)
13:33:35 <dkayiwa> harsz89: he is on vacation :)
13:35:53 <harsz89> dkayiwa, ah around two weeks ?
13:36:46 <dkayiwa> harsz89: maybe :)
13:37:08 <harsz89> dkayiwa, okey dkayiwa i have sent a pull request i think i have to wait ?
13:37:23 <harsz89> dkayiwa, according to comments on rafa's suggestions
13:37:26 <harsz89> dkayiwa, :)
13:38:24 <dkayiwa> harsz89: ok
13:38:36 <harsz89> dkayiwa, thanks for the information :)
13:38:38 <harsz89> :)
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13:51:35 <mseaton> wyclif: ping
13:56:35 <h3llborn> pong
13:56:36 <h3llborn> xD
14:01:54 <mseaton> !scrumon mseaton
14:01:54 * OpenMRSBot says the DAILY SCRUM MEETING is STARTING. This meeting should not last longer than 15 minutes. Please hold other comments until the end of the meeting, or message someone privately. Thank you! ScrumMaster mseaton- you may begin when ready.
14:02:45 <mseaton> let's kick things off. i'll start, then dkayiwa , wyclif , djazayeri (if around), and then others
14:02:54 <mseaton> Yesterday:
14:02:54 <mseaton> * Code reviews
14:02:54 <mseaton> * Applying pull requests
14:02:54 <mseaton> * Design discussions
14:02:54 <mseaton> Today:
14:02:54 <mseaton> * Design and PM call
14:02:54 <mseaton> * Hope to finally start looking at SYNC-295
14:02:55 <mseaton> * More code reviews and, applying pull requests
14:02:55 <mseaton> No blockers
14:03:11 <mseaton> !ticket SYNC-295
14:03:12 <OpenMRSBot> mseaton: [#SYNC-295] Transmit and store information related to incoming sync records - OpenMRS JIRA - https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/SYNC-295
14:03:21 <mseaton> dkayiwa: ?
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14:04:08 <dkayiwa> Working on: If the only changes that occur to an object are within a collection property, sync fails to detect and record this change - SYNC-306
14:04:09 <dkayiwa> No Blockers
14:04:40 <mseaton> dkayiwa: question. you have 3 other tickets still marked as in progress assigned to you. status on those?
14:05:05 <mseaton> (dkayiwa and you didn't claim SYNC-306 in jira :)
14:05:22 <dkayiwa> mseaton: am going to, in the meantime, unclaim one, the commit the other
14:05:26 <dkayiwa> mseaton: oh ya :)
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14:05:39 <wyclif_> can i go last
14:05:57 <mseaton> dkayiwa: great. if you have stuff pending on those, but tabled them to do SYNC-306, that's great. but it would be good to get that update in the ticket briefly.
14:06:08 <dkayiwa> mseaton: ok
14:07:05 <wyclif_> Tuesday:
14:07:05 <wyclif_> SYNC-245 - From History of Changes page
14:07:05 <wyclif_> SYNC-247 - Configure sync poms to allow testing against multiple versions of Openmrs
14:07:05 <wyclif_> Helped Andrea debug failing test
14:07:05 <wyclif_> Wednesday:
14:07:05 <wyclif_> Listened in to university call
14:07:05 <mseaton> anyone else have anything to share before we move to wyclif_ ?
14:07:07 <wyclif_> SYNC-294 - Ensure outgoing sync error details are properly logged and available to the administrator
14:07:09 <wyclif_> design call
14:07:11 <wyclif_> Code review of tickets in community dev smimlane
14:07:13 <wyclif_>
14:07:15 <wyclif_> Blockers: None
14:07:47 <wyclif_> Still need to push my code upstream and change the ticket status
14:07:49 <mseaton> wyclif_: i noticed you just picked up sync-294, which is great. but it looks like 245 and 247 are still in progress?
14:08:04 <mseaton> wyclif_: ok so they are done, just need to be pushed?
14:08:27 <wyclif_> mseaton, i should do so in the next 30min
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14:08:40 <mseaton> wyclif_: ok great. thanks!
14:08:55 <wyclif_> mseaton, still needed to test but had memory issues given that i have to run multiple instances
14:09:38 <mseaton> wyclif_: cool. i'll keep an eye out and will review those once pushed up. Thanks!
14:09:51 <mseaton> other updates from anyone?
14:10:11 <wyclif_> mseaton, i have a question for you after the scrum
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14:10:21 <mseaton> wyclif_: shoot
14:10:49 <andrea__> mseaton, wyclif - my computer crashed - just got here
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14:11:17 <mseaton> andrea__: no problem.
14:11:18 <wyclif_> mseaton, for https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/SYNC-245, on the history page, arent we supposed to be resetting syncserverrecord and not sync records?
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14:11:45 <cpower> just in time...to miss it :-(
14:12:02 <wyclif_> mseaton, when i did some testing i noticed that is resetting the sync record and all of its server records
14:12:03 <andrea__> mseaton: may I ping you when I get to work re debugging in IDE?
14:12:22 <mseaton> andrea__: yes. what ide do you use?
14:12:38 <andrea__> mseaton: Eclipse Juno
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14:13:14 <mseaton> andrea__: ok. please read the wiki. there is information about debugging there, and see how far you can get. i can help if you run into issues.
14:13:48 <andrea__> mseaton: will do
14:14:52 <mseaton> wyclif_: sounds right, but i would need to look. the thing to check is:
14:16:04 <wyclif_> mseaton, the problem is that the states and uuids they are using in jsp is that of those of the syncRecord and ot the server records
14:16:09 <mseaton> wyclif_: if you click into a specific item in the history, there is a link within that sync server record page for resetting it as a new record. it's this behavior thta we want
14:16:26 <mseaton> wyclif_: that sounds like probably the cause of the bug then :)
14:16:49 <mseaton> wyclif_: so what you are saying is that every checkbox in a row is trying to do the same operation?
14:17:29 <mseaton> eg. if there were 10 child servers, and 10 checkboxes for a given sync record (1 per sync server record), checking those 10 checkboxes will result in 10 identical operations? not 10 different operations?
14:17:50 <wyclif_> mseaton, correct
14:18:11 <mseaton> wyclif_: yes, sounds like you found the problem :) and sounds like an easy fix!
14:18:14 <wyclif_> each checkbox is tied to the owing syncrecord
14:18:26 <wyclif_> mseaton, owing->owning
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14:18:44 <wyclif_> mseaton, i was just making sure i was getting it right, thanks
14:18:47 <mseaton> wyclif_: will the controller behave appropriately if we just change the uuid tied to the checkbox to the server record?
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14:20:57 <wyclif_> mseaton, i had changed the controller so that it looks up server record by those uuids but there is no api call to do this, seems like i have to add a getSyncServerRecordByUuid
14:21:18 <mseaton> wyclif_: works for me
14:22:44 <wyclif_> mseaton, ok thanks, this is why i waited push the code, so i will add the api call
14:23:54 <wyclif_> mseaton, FYI the bevahior before was that it would reset the syncRecord and all its serverRecords
14:27:45 <mseaton> wyclif_: hmm. looking at the history page, i see that you can't actually click into a server record individually. only the sync record itself.
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14:28:49 <wyclif_> mseaton, exactly, so what was getting selected was the sync record, i think even remove might be broken
14:28:50 <mseaton> wyclif_: look at the behavior of what happens when the use clicks on the "Remove as not supposed to sync" or "Reset as new sync record" links _within_ the page that displays a single sync record.
14:29:22 <mseaton> wyclif_: those links have been working, as far as i know - we use them all the time to fix sync issues in production.
14:29:50 <mseaton> wyclif_: but we have been unable to use the checkboxes w/ links on the history page due to what is described in the ticket.
14:30:03 <mseaton> wyclif_: essentially that's what we are trying to fix.
14:30:11 <wyclif_> mseaton, they work because the code in the controller loops over all the server records and resets them too
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14:30:42 <mseaton> wyclif_: what happens if a user goes into a sync record that has been synced to some children already, but not others, and then clicks on the "remove as not supposed to sync" or "reset as new sync record" links?
14:31:06 <mseaton> wyclif_: will it ignore those records that have already been successfully processed?
14:32:06 <wyclif_> mseaton, by default the logic in the jsp doesnt display the ceckboxes for already processed records so that would never arise
14:32:45 <wyclif_> mseaton, and this is why that problem was masked
14:33:17 <wyclif_> look at history.jsp line 192
14:35:43 <mseaton> wyclif_: looking. going to ping mark quickly. hang tight.
14:35:57 <wyclif_> mseaton, with the current bug described on the ticket, it means you would never reset a record if any of the server record has failed
14:36:08 <k-joseph> hi dkayiwa,
14:36:13 <dkayiwa> k-joseph: hi
14:36:25 <mseaton> wyclif_: right
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14:37:24 <k-joseph> openmrs university adobe page is not active today, has it been canceled?
14:37:32 <wyclif_> mseaton, i will test removing and see the behavior
14:37:49 <wyclif_> but i believe it has a similar problem possibly
14:37:58 <shangxiao> cpower
14:38:57 <shangxiao> Darius wanted me to discuss TRUNK-3924 at the design meeting
14:40:46 <shangxiao> !TRUNK-3924
14:40:47 <OpenMRSBot> shangxiao: Error: "TRUNK-3924" is not a valid command.
14:40:55 <shangxiao> !ticket TRUNK-3924
14:40:56 <OpenMRSBot> shangxiao: [#TRUNK-3924] Setup annotation based basic authentication for module developers - OpenMRS JIRA - https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-3924
14:43:04 <mseaton> wyclif_: i think we should look at the behavior _both_ on the history of changes page _and_ on the individual sync record page regarding what it does when it marks a record as new or not supposed to sync, and we should make sure it is doing the right things. cool?
14:43:28 <wyclif_> mseaton, sure i will look at both
14:43:35 <mseaton> wyclif_: awesome, thanks.
14:43:47 <wyclif_> mseaton, including remove
14:44:07 <mseaton> wyclif_: yes
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14:50:55 <cpower> 31 in the channel, we gotta be reaching a record.
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14:51:57 <cpower> shangxiao: you need anyting?
14:51:59 <cpower> anything
14:52:31 * cpower needs to reduce his early AM caffeine intake so he can type.
14:53:33 <k-joseph> dkayiwa: hi
14:53:42 <dkayiwa> k-joseph: hi
14:54:44 <k-joseph> why do you think eclipse is showing error indications on my openmrs-core projects in eclipse yet mvn clean install suceeds, and also in eclipse
14:54:46 <k-joseph> ?
15:01:01 <jkeiper> k-joseph: perhaps you need to run a project clean
15:01:11 <jkeiper> i think in eclipse there is a project menu
15:01:15 <jkeiper> and a clean option under that
15:01:36 <k-joseph> i have done that but it has not cleared the error marks
15:01:53 <k-joseph> dkayiwa: i have done that but it has not cleared the error marks
15:01:55 <jkeiper> k-joseph: did you run the "clean install" from eclipse?
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15:11:40 <shangxiao> cpower well I won't be awake :D
15:12:02 <shangxiao> I was hoping if someone in the design group was a Spring expert then they could "take a quick look"
15:13:02 <shangxiao> it's 2am here and I'm nearly asleep now
15:13:43 <wyclif_> hi mseaton
15:13:51 <mseaton> hey wyclif_
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15:17:37 <wyclif_> mseaton, i have tested and noticed that page for resetting/removing has a related behavior, it resets/removes the sync record and all the server record
15:18:12 <mseaton> wyclif_: you mean the viewrecord.jsp page?
15:18:15 <wyclif_> mseaton, which i think might be fine since the user is actually viewng and acting on the record itself
15:18:20 <wyclif_> mseaton, yes
15:18:45 <wyclif_> mseaton, meaning if i have an already synced server record and a failed one they all get reset or removed
15:19:10 <mseaton> wyclif_: yes, that page is the one we use, and it seems to work for us. i do have a question as to what it would mean to reset the sync server records in bulk like that though, if some have already been successfully synced. doesn't really make sense to me.
15:19:13 <wyclif_> mseaton, so it meaning the child that had already synced it, will resync it
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15:19:53 <mseaton> wyclif_: right. i think in practice this is ok because the recipient server has a log that it has already processed it and will ignore the duplicate transmission
15:20:14 <wyclif_> mseaton, if some thing was already synced and you redo it, this might will eitehr cause duplicates on bugs on the already synced child
15:20:17 <mseaton> wyclif_: but i agree it is not ideal, either for record-keeping purposes, or for the extra noise in the sync transmission that takes up bandwidgth
15:20:43 <wyclif_> mseaton, i assume the module will see that it already synced and igore it, right?
15:20:51 <wyclif_> if that is the case that page if fine
15:21:22 <mseaton> wyclif_: my feeling is that we should change the behavior such that if a server record is already successfully synced (use the new "isFinal" method that lluis added), then it shouldn't be changed.
15:21:27 <mseaton> wyclif_: yes
15:21:49 <mseaton> wyclif_: see my comment above from 11.20 right above yours
15:22:37 <mseaton> wyclif_: look at the method that lluis added in SYNC-277, and use this to determine whether a sync server record should be reset i guess. make sense?
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15:23:08 <wyclif_> mseaton, correct
15:23:39 <wyclif_> mseaton, in the jsps you can reset a finalized sync record but in the API you can which we need to changed, agree with that
15:23:58 <mseaton> wyclif_: ok, cool. please document all of this in the ticket (or create a new ticket if the changes are sufficiently out of scope for the original ticket) so that we can track these decisions and others will see them.
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15:24:48 <mseaton> wyclif_: right, the jsps might prevent it, but as we have seen, clicking those links just causes the sync record to be reset, and then a blind loop on all sync server records to reset them. we should be smarter, and check in that loop.
15:25:54 <mseaton> wyclif_: am i making sense? on the right page?
15:26:11 <wyclif_> mseaton, yeah
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15:27:00 <wyclif_> mseaton, thanks
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15:32:36 <wyclif_> mseaton, was lluis code pushed to upstream so i can pull it and use it?
15:33:27 <k-joseph> the error, marks seem to be insisting even after restarting the pc, am just ignoring them now, since all the tests pass and mvn clean install succeeds, and openmrs runsfine
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15:35:43 <wyclif_> mseaton, ?
15:36:00 <wyclif_> mseaton, was lluis' code pushed to upstream so i can pull and use it?
15:36:18 <mseaton> wyclif_: no, it's in a pull request. i had pushed it back due to one thing to resolve.
15:36:40 <mseaton> wyclif_: if you want to merge in that pull request and fix the issue i reported on it, i'm sure lluis wouldn't mind :)
15:36:51 <mseaton> wyclif_: i wouldn't mind either !
15:39:40 <k-joseph> dkayiwa: hi
15:45:35 <wyclif_> mseaton, do you removing one of the changes in the wrong place
15:45:51 <mseaton> wyclif_: sorry?
15:46:36 <wyclif_> mseaton, i mean the comment that says Not sure if this is right, since it looks like the purpose here is to determine if the record needs to be marked as COMMITTED_AND_CONFIRMATION_SENT. So I guess we should leave this one alone\
15:46:38 <mseaton> wyclif_: looks like i had 2 comments.
15:46:55 <mseaton> wyclif_: right. i _think_ that should be reverted
15:47:05 <wyclif_> mseaton, the other one seems like it is just a github issue where it cant do the diff well
15:47:08 <mseaton> wyclif_: and also it would be nice to not show so many changed lines in the other section
15:47:10 <mseaton> wyclif_: right
15:47:28 <wyclif_> mseaton, not sure about how to fix the second one
15:47:53 <mseaton> wyclif_: actually, looks like i merged the new method in, so it should be available.
15:48:01 <wyclif_> mseaton, we can ignore it as long as the code is fine
15:48:06 <mseaton> wyclif_: these other issues are just related stuff that needs to occur
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15:48:45 <mseaton> wyclif_: yeah. not a big deal. but i'd rather know for sure what is changing. when the whole think looks like a change, i worry that something will slip in there in all the noisse.
15:49:16 <wyclif_> mseaton,i will probably leave it , i pulled what you merged in intially so i have the method available
15:49:28 <mseaton> wyclif_: ok, we can leave it for lluis
15:50:40 <wyclif_> mseaton, what was the reason for putting that method in SyncRecordState only, i would assume we should have it in SyncRecord and SyncServerRecord
15:51:42 <mseaton> wyclif_: sorry, i don't follow. it's a utility method on the enum. we can apply that method whereever appropraite.
15:52:22 <wyclif_> mseaton, ok, i guess i wanted to use it in a jsp
15:52:38 <wyclif_> mseaton, i will still have to add one in the records
15:52:39 <mseaton> wyclif_: probably makes sense to add methods to sync record and/or sync server record too for "isCommitted", etc, which delegate to that.
15:52:56 <wyclif_> mseaton, something like that
15:53:33 <mseaton> wyclif_: the point was just to have the logic for what states represent "isFinal" in taht utility method. probably a better solution would be to have methods on each enum that could return true/false if they are "final" states, and then methods on syncrecord and syncserverrecord that use that.
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15:54:35 <mseaton> wyclif_: feel free to evolve this as needed, if it improves the overall code, and preserves the notion of having logic encapsulated in one place, so that we don't need to remember what states are final everywhere we want to code for it.
15:55:25 <wyclif_> mseaton, will see what i can do
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16:30:49 <wyclif_> hi Anuruddha_
16:31:06 <wyclif_> sorry Anuruddha_!
16:31:22 <wyclif_> Anuruddha_, i meant to ping someone else
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17:29:56 <k-joseph> dkayiwa: hi
17:30:06 <dkayiwa> k-joseph: hi
17:30:32 <k-joseph> dkayiwa: am really sorry for that bunch of useless paste
17:30:53 <dkayiwa> k-joseph: it killed me :)
17:31:23 <k-joseph> dkayiwa: that was by mistake.
17:34:34 <k-joseph> dkayiwa: i kindly request for your support, here when i retire a concept, where is it supposed to be listed as a set members?
17:35:01 <k-joseph> dkayiwa: i mean all i see is the red field on the view page of the concept
17:35:06 <dkayiwa> k-joseph: which ticket number
17:35:28 <k-joseph> !ticket TRUNK-3840
17:35:29 <OpenMRSBot> k-joseph: [#TRUNK-3840] Retired concepts arent showed as retired when listed as set members - OpenMRS JIRA - https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-3840
17:36:50 <dkayiwa> k-joseph: have you first of all read and understood all comments on that ticket?
17:37:20 <k-joseph> dkayiwa: yes i have read them all
17:37:52 <dkayiwa> k-joseph: did you also look at all the various commits on that ticket?
17:38:31 <k-joseph> dkayiwa: am now going through them
17:38:39 <dkayiwa> k-joseph: ok
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17:48:18 <djazayeri> wyclif_, dkayiwa: btw, if you can make the design call today (I know you usually do) that'd be great. :-)
17:48:35 <wyclif_> djazayeri, sure, thanks1
17:48:47 <dkayiwa> djazayeri: :)
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20:27:47 <wyclif_> hi mseaton
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20:28:19 <andreapat> mseaton: you here?
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20:35:49 <mseaton> hi wyclif_ andreapat
20:36:46 <andreapat> mseaton: hi
20:37:16 <wyclif_> mseaton, i was just confirming that we said SYNCHRONIZED server record can also be reset from the history page
20:37:29 <mseaton> wyclif_: no, i think we want to prevent this
20:37:34 <mseaton> right?
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20:38:06 <andreapat> mseaton: ping me when you finish conversation with wyclif, ok?
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20:43:38 <andreapat> mseaton: you still here?
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20:45:12 <andreapat> mseaton?
20:45:22 <mseaton> andreapat: yes?
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20:46:59 <andreapat> mseaton: hi - am looking at How to Debug a Web Application with Eclipse - https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Developer+How-To+Use+Eclipse+Guide
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20:47:09 <mseaton> ok
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20:47:43 <andreapat> mseaton: not very good documentation
20:48:24 <jsr> hello, i'm playing around with the demo installation on our servers. I'm wondering if there is a way to list all the patients in the demo app?
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20:48:58 <andreapat> mseaton: re java command used to launch Tomcat -Xdebug ect - am on Windows - are these envionment variables?
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20:50:20 <andreapat> mseaton: Am I looking at the right doc? Refers to Tomcat
20:51:07 <mseaton> andreapat: they are variables that you pass in to tomcat when you start it up. i believe tomcat provides a way to pass these in by setting particular environment variables. the tomcat documentation will tell you this. or you can just pass it in when you start tomcat. i pass them in when i start tomcat, personally, but i start tomcat from the command line
20:51:07 <mseaton> in linux.
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20:52:40 <andreapat> mseaton: I know Tomcat is in there to but I run with mvn jetty:run
20:52:59 <mseaton> andreapat: it looks like (for me, running tomcat 6 in ubuntu), i can pass them in by setting the CATALINA_OPTS environment variable.
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20:53:25 <mseaton> andreapat: eg export CATALINA_OPTS="$CATALINA_OPTS -Xmx1024m -Xms512m -XX:PermSize=256m -XX:MaxPermSize=256m -XX:NewSize=128m -Xdebug -Xnoagent -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,server=y,suspend=n,address=5000"
20:54:11 <mseaton> andreapat: it's the stuff from -Xdebug to the end that allows eclipse debugger to connect to tomcat on port 5000 for debugging.
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20:55:08 <mseaton> andreapat: it would be great if you could use this as an opportunity to update the documentation on the wiki, if it is insufficient.
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20:55:43 <andreapat> mseaton: ok will do that via environmental - as far as I know it's the only way to do so in Windows -
20:56:02 <andreapat> mseaton: will gladly update the wiki when done!
20:56:48 <andreapat> mseaton: can I debug code in api and unit test at the same time?
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20:57:11 <andreapat> mseaton: I suspect my code is not getting called
20:57:30 <mseaton> andreapat: unit test calls api, you have access to everything
20:57:46 <andreapat> mseaton: great!
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