IRC Chat : 2012-07-19 - OpenMRS

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03:03:57 <suranga> hi bwolfe_
03:04:05 <suranga> bwolfe_, are you around today ? :-)
03:05:06 <bwolfe_> yeah, for a little bit longer
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03:06:25 <suranga> bwolfe, djazayeri has just responded to my email
03:06:34 <bwolfe> yeah, read it
03:06:43 <djazayeri> hah, who knew that you two were still online
03:06:51 <suranga> bwolfe, djazayeri im going to create the skeleton module today, and then start experimenring
03:06:53 <bwolfe> I think your descriptions shoudl be tweaked
03:06:56 <djazayeri> Oh, actually I'm on the same time zone as ben now. :-)
03:07:12 <bwolfe> djazayeri, for how long?
03:07:21 <djazayeri> flying home Friday morning.
03:07:26 <suranga> djazayeri, bwolfe once i start experimenting, I will probably have questions :-)
03:07:49 <djazayeri> suranga: I expect that!
03:08:03 <suranga> bwolfe, when you say 'your descriptions need tweaking' do you mean changed to reflect our latest design ?
03:08:20 <djazayeri> suranga: if you want, this would be a great opportunity for you to practice test-driven-development, with mocks
03:09:00 <bwolfe> I mean what you put in your email is close, but not 100% accurate
03:09:03 <suranga> djazayeri, this is something related to your mail on mocking services right ?
03:09:35 <suranga> bwolfe, hmm.... what did I miss out on ? :(
03:09:40 <djazayeri> suranga: the mocks stuff, yeah, but my main point is that *please* do not just start writing code and testing it out in the webapp.
03:09:59 <bwolfe> tests++
03:10:33 <djazayeri> suranga: this sort of thing is a perfect situation for doing test-driven-development.
03:10:37 <djazayeri> I'll email you and example
03:10:54 <suranga> djazayeri, by "dont test it out on the webapp' do you mean I should mock my calls to the openmrs COre ?
03:10:57 <djazayeri> suranga: hmm, I realized I forgot to actually attach a file to my last email. I'll do that
03:11:06 <djazayeri> suranga: it'll be easier for me to send you a code snippet of what I mean
03:11:19 <suranga> djazayeri, coool, thanks :-)
03:17:17 <bwolfe> djazayeri, are you in boston?
03:17:25 <djazayeri> bwolfe: yeah
03:18:51 <bwolfe> for a while?
03:20:09 <suranga> bwolfe, mm.. hi... you were saying that my mail was not 100 % ?
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03:20:24 <bwolfe> yeah, I'll reply
03:21:30 <djazayeri> bwolfe: no, just here this week (and for another week later in July). Some transitions are happening here, so good to be in town and plan.
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03:24:28 <suranga> djazayeri, time for more signseeing ! :)
03:27:50 <suranga> thanks bwolfe
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06:33:23 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: Hey daniel, how are you!
06:34:07 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: hey am doing great. and u
06:34:18 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: Me too!
06:34:30 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: Have a quick question on xforms, if you have some time.
06:34:41 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: ok
06:35:31 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: I want to use ODK for one of the other projects which i'm working. But i don't want to use ODK aggregate, as it seems like the code would not be scalable(tight RDBMS etc,.)
06:36:08 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: So, my current plan is to use ODK collect and at the server side i wan to some how parse the xforms and i'm currently looking at the open source xforms parser.
06:36:23 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: I haven't dig into details of OpenRosa yet.
06:36:31 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: will the data end in openmrs?
06:36:41 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: nope!
06:36:53 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: its general survey data though!
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06:37:35 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: ok
06:37:56 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: which server do you plan to use
06:38:15 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: I'm flexible on that bit as i haven't started on coding that server side.
06:38:54 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: do you want to code a custom server?
06:39:15 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: Nope! i don't think i have enough time for that though!
06:39:38 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: did you actually try out ODK aggregate
06:39:53 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: yep!
06:40:01 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: My major crib is the way it creates the tables
06:40:09 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: ok
06:40:25 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: i'm sure that would not be scalable for huge surveys going forward.
06:40:35 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: ok
06:40:40 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: I wanted to use a nosql solution to store the survey data
06:40:48 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: ok
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06:41:17 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: I could use the current code of aggregate and plugin my own db solution. but just wanted to know if you have encountered any other open source xform servers
06:41:41 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: have you looked at openxdata?
06:42:03 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: nope not yet! can you tell me the advantages i get?
06:42:24 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: but odk is not fully supported on it anyway
06:42:44 <dkayiwa> though you could look into completing that gap if you had the time
06:44:00 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: oh ok!
06:44:02 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: just FYI, my scenario is something like from server side, admin should be able to create surveys(this is my server side logic) and i'm considering, some open source solution which can covert the data into xform compatible so that my ODK collect can understand the same. Later when the my mobile device having ODK collect submits the form i should be able to parse the form(using that opensrouce xform server) and push the data into my db.
06:44:36 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: ok
06:45:13 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: So at a high level i don't want to deal with the internal details of xforms, my server would act as plain restful server contacting xforms server which would parse the xforms :)
06:45:20 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: Am i too ambitious here!
06:45:29 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: no you are not :)
06:46:09 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: you could tap the odk aggregate form submission and put into your db
06:47:23 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: Yep seems that could be the solution i can use. One other problem i found with aggregate is it doesn't expose services clearly. I mean its not like i can consume the web service and write my custom logic on top of it.
06:47:47 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: that is true
06:48:21 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: hmm. seems like i'll go with aggregate and modify the code for now! :)
06:48:31 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: sure :)
06:48:33 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: so, what else hows life. where are you now!
06:48:58 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: me and family are doing well. not complaining!!! and you? :)
06:49:18 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: Yep, all going fine at my end. I'll be in kampala between aug10th to 30th. We can meet if you are in town during that time.
06:49:48 <dkayiwa> oh yes will be there by God's mercies!!! :)
06:49:57 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: what will you be doing?
06:50:17 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: I'll be working with Unicef during that time. I guess you know about the RapidFTR project
06:50:27 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: no :)
06:50:43 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: Oh ok, so thats one of the project i'll be working with during that time in Unicef.
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06:50:50 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: ok
06:53:31 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: How does openmrs xforms work with ODK collect
06:54:23 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: it work with ODC Clinic
06:54:49 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: which adds is a custom openmrs app but which uses the ODK collect forms engine
06:56:18 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: you mean odc clinic will take care of parsing incoming xforms from odkcollect.
06:57:51 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: odkclinic, delegates all forms bussiness to odk collect
06:58:11 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: odkclinic embeds odk collect
06:58:42 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: oh ok. So at the server side some one should parse incoming xforms rt? are the odkclinic is submitting some other type of data to server?
06:59:33 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: it is still the odk collect (embedded into clinic) which submits to the server. in this case being the openmrs server
06:59:48 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: openmrs server's xforms module
07:00:13 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: so all we do here is point the submission url to that of openmrs instead of odk aggregate
07:00:24 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: so, our xforms module is parsing the xforms here?
07:00:45 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: actually the submission is not even xforms, it is simply xml :)
07:01:11 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: xforms is for form definitions only. but the data submission is plain old xml
07:01:27 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: ahhh ok!!! got you! :)
07:01:47 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: so the xforms module does not even do much with the xml, i took advantage of what the infopath form entery module was doing
07:02:04 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: inforpath sends xml which is processed by the form entry module
07:02:33 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: ahh! cool.
07:02:48 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: so what i did is to ensure that the xform sends the same xml and i end up not doing any more than simply delegating to that same routines that infopath submission uses
07:03:21 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: awesome! sound great.
07:03:28 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: sure!!!
07:03:58 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: so,just to repeat, we can create xforms form our xform module and ODK collect can pull the xforms , when it submits the data it submits in plain xml and then the logic which you told happens from the OpenMRS side.
07:04:28 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: correct
07:05:02 <kishoreyekkanti> dkayiwa: Cool. Understood the flow now! :) thanks a lot. Lemme do some research on what i can really change
07:05:06 <dkayiwa> kishoreyekkanti: as long as the xml the xform submits is in the format expected by the openmrs formentry module :)
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10:00:46 <harshadura> hi rafa
10:01:06 <rafa> harshadura: hi
10:02:15 <harshadura> rafa: is thr a way to get an OpenMRS user ID by using his/her username ?
10:02:48 <rafa> harshadura: google?
10:03:57 <harshadura> yeah I did rafa.
10:04:35 <rafa> harshadura: who are you looking for?
10:05:02 <harshadura> no rafa this is regarding my project, Feedback Module
10:05:25 <rafa> harshadura: ohh you mean you want to do it from code? :)
10:05:41 <harshadura> yes rafa
10:07:02 <rafa> harshadura: what is the use case?
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10:07:39 <harshadura> sorry, didn got your question rafa ?
10:07:55 <rafa> harshadura: what is it for?
10:08:02 <rafa> harshadura: how do you want to use it?
10:09:34 <harshadura> The person who gonna send the feedback can choose any person who exist in the System. So he/she can select the person as feedback receiver from a Scroll list in the view
10:09:47 <harshadura> I am getting all the users by this code
10:09:48 <harshadura> model.put("allusers", Context.getUserService().getAllUsers());
10:10:39 <harshadura> in the final step of the feedback Form the data need to be saved in the db, I hv mapped feedbackID and UserID in a separate table.
10:10:59 <harshadura> so for that I need the userID rather username
10:11:11 <harshadura> please can you guide me how to do this
10:13:13 <rafa> harshadura: hmmm not exactly sure what you mean but does Context.getUserService().getUserByUserName("some name").getId() help?
10:14:59 <harshadura> Thanks lot rafa, thats what I was searching for.
10:15:22 <rafa> harshadura: np
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12:01:35 <bwolfe> kishoreyekkanti, any more luck with githubbing?
12:01:42 <bwolfe> or do you need more usernames/emails ? :-/
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13:26:29 <bwolfe> dkayiwa, wyclif, how are you choosing tickets to curate?
13:27:19 <dkayiwa> bwolfe: project="OpenMRS Trunk" and status = "Needs Assessment"
13:27:31 <wyclif> bwolfe, i use a similar query
13:28:02 <wyclif> and AND resolution = Unresolved
13:28:31 <wyclif> i have another query that includes core/bundled modules
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14:17:31 <kishoreyekkanti_> bwolfe: not really it failed couple of times with error"no author" author not found. This is because there are couple of blank commits without author. I've kept a (no author) and blank email in authors.txt and it was not working.
14:17:44 <kishoreyekkanti_> bwolfe: Just now started checking out with plain git-svn instead of svn2git
14:18:14 <bwolfe> blank commits without an author? got a changeset number?
14:21:34 <rafa> bwolfe: how can I get MDS in CI? :)
14:22:04 <bwolfe> hmm, where to put it?
14:22:12 <bwolfe> "bundled modules" isn't quite right
14:22:25 <bwolfe> we should rename that to "strategic modules"
14:22:48 <rafa> bwolfe: great, do you want me to ticket it?
14:22:57 <rafa> bwolfe: I don't have rights to do it
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14:25:37 <bwolfe> rafa, https://ci.openmrs.org/browse/BUNDLED-MDS-1
14:26:30 <kishoreyekkanti_> bwolfe: this is what it looked r10 = 7d19fe7a9264e90f7695afc20237f391ad4b80fd (refs/remotes/svn/tags/1.0.0@554)
14:27:27 <kishoreyekkanti_> bwolfe: and here's th exact error "Author: (no author) not defined in /Users/yekkanti/projects/sip/omrs/authors.txt file"
14:28:01 <rafa> bwolfe: thanks!
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14:30:56 <bwolfe> rafa, failed already
14:31:07 <bwolfe> kishoreyekkanti_, revision 10?!
14:31:11 <bwolfe> oh, 554, nm
14:31:12 <rafa> bwolfe: yes, I saw
14:33:35 <djazayeri> wyclif: why are you marking so many tickets "Waiting on Information"?
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14:37:30 <mseaton> rafa. looking to test mds on 1.9. do i need to re-generate my export as well as re-try import. or can i use a pre-existing export done a few weeks ago?
14:37:57 <rafa> mseaton: pre-existings exports must work
14:38:16 <mseaton> rafa, ok will try that first
14:43:01 <rafa> mseaton: please tell me whether tests pass for you or not when you build
14:43:17 <wyclif> djazayeri, because there are comments on them that are un responded to we are waiting on before marking them as ready for work, otherwise they get back in the query for curating tickets
14:43:18 <rafa> mseaton: works for me, but there's some problem on the CI server
14:44:08 <djazayeri> wyclif: personally I think that your job while curating is to (if reasonable) make the decision about things. (bwolfe, what do you think?)
14:44:30 <bwolfe> yes, definitely
14:44:43 <djazayeri> wyclif: e.g. the concept short name ticket (which I just marked ready-for-work) actually did not have any pending questions.
14:44:45 <bwolfe> wyclif, dkayiwa, rafa, everyone has the power to make most decisions
14:45:16 <bwolfe> I think only use Waiting On Info when waiting for info from a user, not from other devs
14:46:10 <djazayeri> dkayiwa: regarding TRUNK-3263, I don't think that's good enough curation
14:46:25 <dkayiwa> !ticket TRUNK-326
14:46:28 <OpenMRSBot> dkayiwa: [#TRUNK-326] standard regimen XML should include an attribute for regimenSuggestion allowing for distinction between HIV and TB - OpenMRS JIRA - https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-326
14:46:33 <wyclif> ok
14:46:47 <dkayiwa> TRUNK-3263
14:46:59 <dkayiwa> !ticket TRUNK-3263
14:46:59 <djazayeri> dkayiwa: from looking at the ticket summary and description, *I* would not know what to do exactly. I think it would be quite confusing for a dev who is newer to OpenMRS.
14:47:00 <OpenMRSBot> dkayiwa: [#TRUNK-3263] Move the whole pattern for updateConceptIndexes into the scheduler - OpenMRS JIRA - https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-3263
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14:53:45 <mseaton> rafa - are your changes on github? are they under your fork? under the master OpenMRS?
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14:54:21 <rafa> mseaton: I've merged it all to master on github under OpenMRS
14:54:57 <djazayeri> wyclif: regarding TRUNK-3611, when doing curation, I think you should take a bit of extra time to update the ticket description so that the person who picks it up doesn't have to read and understand the whole conversation
14:55:11 <djazayeri> bwolfe: do you agree with ^^?
14:55:36 <bwolfe> !ticket TRUNK-3611
14:55:37 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: [#TRUNK-3611] Need to be able to move encounters from one person to another - OpenMRS JIRA - https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-3611
14:56:09 <wyclif> djazayeri, ok
14:56:16 <bwolfe> yes
14:56:32 <bwolfe> we need to update the curation wiki page for these tidbits...not that anyone will ever read it :-p
14:58:44 <mseaton> rafa: doing just "mvn clean package" gives:
14:58:44 <mseaton> Tests in error:
14:58:44 <mseaton> convert_shouldConvertAMessageDownToOneDotSix(org.openmrs.module.metadatasharing.util.VersionConverterTest): org.apache.xerces.dom.DeferredDocumentImpl.getXmlStandalone()Z
14:58:44 <mseaton> convert_shouldConvertAMessageFromOneDotSix(org.openmrs.module.metadatasharing.util.VersionConverterTest): org.apache.xerces.dom.DeferredDocumentImpl.getXmlStandalone()Z
14:58:44 <mseaton> convertFrom16To18(org.openmrs.module.metadatasharing.util.VersionConverterTest): org.apache.xerces.dom.DeferredDocumentImpl.getXmlStandalone()Z
14:59:14 <rafa> mseaton: ok that's the same as on the CI
15:00:02 <mseaton> rafa: do i need to run different commands to run tests against specific versions of openmrs?
15:00:25 <rafa> mseaton: just add -DopenMRSVersion=1.9.1-SNAPSHOT
15:00:41 <bwolfe> rafa, or -P=openmrs1.9?
15:00:50 <bwolfe> err -Popenmrs1.9
15:00:56 <rafa> bwolfe: no, I haven't declared profiles
15:01:10 <bwolfe> mmk, nm then!
15:01:11 <bwolfe> :-)
15:01:55 <mseaton> rafa / bwolfe: not sure if this is temporary or what is planned, but would be nice to have one approach that is standard across all modules for testing against different versions.
15:02:32 <bwolfe> its basically what is defined in Mark's wiki page about it
15:02:42 <rafa> mseaton: google says the errors are due to the xercesimpl jar missing
15:02:43 <bwolfe> rafa is just being differnet and not including the profile
15:03:31 <mseaton> whatever the best practice is, we should try to all adopt it. if rafa is doing something better, we could move to that, but we should try to be consistent bwolfe and rafa. agree?
15:03:54 <rafa> mseaton: I'm still experimenting :)
15:04:02 <rafa> mseaton: yes, we should be consistent
15:04:14 <mseaton> rafa, great. that's what i meant by "temporary, or what is planned".
15:06:17 <rafa> mseaton: can you run mvn dependency:resolve?
15:06:27 <rafa> mseaton: see if xcercesimpl.jar is there
15:06:49 <mseaton> sure, just a sec.
15:07:07 <mseaton> so, running with the -DopenMRSVersion=1.9.1-SNAPSHOT, everything builds and passes fine
15:07:08 <bwolfe> mseaton, all the bundled modules have profiles and the same property that rafa is using
15:07:19 <bwolfe> but for most versions we could drop the profiles
15:08:43 <mseaton> rafa: using -DopenMRSVersion=1.9.1-SNAPSHOT seems to work. my main issue is not with 1.6 -> 1.9 compatibility currently i don't think. it's with 1.9 -> 1.9 transfer of Concepts.
15:08:53 <mseaton> not sure if this matches what you have been working on
15:09:39 <rafa> mseaton: it should only work 1.9 -> 1.9 right now
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15:10:09 <mseaton> rafa: what do you want to know from mvn dependency:resolve?
15:10:28 <rafa> mseaton: if you can see there xcerces:xcercesImpl
15:10:50 <mseaton> [INFO] xml-apis:xml-apis:jar:1.3.03:provided
15:10:50 <mseaton> [INFO] xerces:xercesImpl:jar:2.4.0:provided
15:11:13 <rafa> mseaton: did you run just "mvn dependency:resolve" ?
15:11:16 <mseaton> yes
15:11:22 <mseaton> what is xcerces?
15:11:23 <rafa> mseaton: ok thanks
15:11:32 <rafa> mseaton: it's for parsing xml
15:11:35 <mseaton> are you misspelling that? or is that what you are looking for?
15:11:47 <rafa> mseaton: misspelled
15:11:53 <rafa> mseaton: it's what you pasted ;)
15:11:57 <mseaton> just making sure :)
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16:30:27 <deepaganu> hi bwolfe
16:30:36 <bwolfe> hi deepaganu
16:30:42 <deepaganu> how do we capture the diagnostic results
16:30:55 <deepaganu> do we need the lab module for that
16:30:57 <bwolfe> what kind of diagnostic results?
16:30:57 <deepaganu> basic`,
16:31:01 <deepaganu> bwolfe,
16:31:07 <deepaganu> the lab results
16:31:39 <deepaganu> how do we capture that
16:31:54 <deepaganu> would it be as a aprt of observation
16:31:58 <deepaganu> bwolfe,
16:32:15 <bwolfe> yes, lab results are usually stored as observations
16:32:30 <bwolfe> so you can collect them like you do with other formentry/htmlformentry/xforms forms
16:32:45 <deepaganu> so it is not necessary to have a lab module
16:33:06 <deepaganu> to capture the results
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16:33:28 <deepaganu> they can be captured using the observationService
16:33:31 <deepaganu> thanks
16:34:07 <deepaganu> bwolfe, we are even exporting the problems of patient
16:34:24 <bwolfe> right
16:34:37 <bwolfe> problems would go into the active_list/active_list_problem tables
16:34:56 <deepaganu> then those problems canbe coded as what 64572001 Condition
16:34:56 <deepaganu> 418799008 Symptom
16:34:56 <deepaganu> 404684003 Finding
16:34:56 <deepaganu> 409586006 Complaint
16:34:56 <deepaganu> 248536006 Functional limitation
16:34:57 <deepaganu> 55607006 Problem
16:35:00 <deepaganu> 282291009 Diagnosis
16:35:13 <deepaganu> should i use it as condition orproblem
16:35:45 <deepaganu> bwolfe,
16:36:37 <bwolfe> deepaganu, I'm not sure I follow.
16:36:50 <bwolfe> active_list is diff than obs
16:36:54 <bwolfe> and has other columns.
16:37:06 <deepaganu> see , in the ccd format we need to export the problem section
16:37:24 <deepaganu> in that every problem can lie in the above mention categories
16:37:39 <deepaganu> in OPenmrs the categorization is not there
16:37:49 <deepaganu> but we need to export it in CCD format
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16:38:10 <bwolfe> could be in two places: either in PatientService.getProblems()
16:38:25 <deepaganu> so we need to know that the problem which is recorded is a problem or a condition
16:38:33 <bwolfe> or in the obs table under obs.concept_id = PROBLEM (and then you have to look for obs.concept_id = PROBLEM_RESOLVED)
16:38:34 <deepaganu> or diagnosis
16:38:46 <bwolfe> if users are storing it in the obs, its very tricky logic to figure out what is resolved and what is not
16:39:15 <deepaganu> we capture the problem in openmrs but dont categorize whether it is a condition , problem or diagnosis
16:39:27 <bwolfe> right
16:40:01 <deepaganu> so by default i would consider it as problem and not any condition or diagnosis
16:40:26 <deepaganu> would it be ok bwolfe
16:41:31 <bwolfe> sure
16:41:35 <bwolfe> thats ok for now
16:42:08 <deepaganu> thanks bye
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17:27:56 <bwolfe> wyclif, dkayiwa: created a jira dashboard for the ticket curation: https://tickets.openmrs.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=11950
17:28:08 <bwolfe> and added a little to the wiki page about curation: https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/RES/Tickets+Curation+Swim+Lane
17:28:12 <dkayiwa> bwolfe: oh great :)
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17:28:47 <rfriedman> bwolfe, were you at the dev call today?
17:30:14 <suranga> hi bwolfe
17:30:37 <suranga> bwolfe, sorry, I only just saw your email. I'm going to go write that up now...
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18:40:25 <lakkarau> bwolfe:hi
18:41:05 <lakkarau> djazayeri:hi
18:41:12 <djazayeri> hi lakkarau
18:42:43 <lakkarau> djazayeri:the server.xml in the tomcat server <Context docBase="C:\openMRSws\openmrs\webapp\target\openmrs" path="/" reloadable="true" /> is set in this way.
18:42:47 <bwolfe> hi lakkarau
18:44:07 <lakkarau> bwolfe: i am having problem in running my application ,wanted to check if there is any problem in my server.xml settings
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18:44:36 <djazayeri> lakkarau: is there a particular reason you're running through tomcat and not running through jetty with mvn jetty:run ?
18:45:36 <lakkarau> djazayeri: i am working on the issue #TRUNK 3491
18:45:45 <djazayeri> !ticket trunk-3491
18:45:46 <OpenMRSBot> djazayeri: [#TRUNK-3491] Write to independent log file - OpenMRS JIRA - https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/trunk-3491
18:46:37 <lakkarau> djazayeri:trying to run the application on tomcat.
18:47:48 <bwolfe> lakkarau, you shouldn't have to modify the server.xml at all
18:49:10 <lakkarau> bwolfe: i was trying to integrate the application on eclipse to tomcat
18:49:52 <lakkarau> bwolfe:i was able to start the initial setup
18:50:19 <lakkarau> bwolfe:getting the page with Invalid username and/or password: admin Unable to complete the startup.
18:50:19 <lakkarau> Tasks completed so far:
18:50:19 <lakkarau> Created database openmrs
18:50:19 <lakkarau> Created user openmrs_user
18:50:19 <lakkarau> Granted user openmrs_user all privileges to database openmrs
18:50:19 <lakkarau> Created database tables and added core data
18:50:45 <bwolfe> lakkarau, no need to integrate. just copy the war built in the webapp/target directory and load that into tomcat
18:51:12 <lakkarau> bwolfe:ok
18:52:25 <lakkarau> bwolfe:now after i shutdown tomcat and run jetty i am getting an errorThe following error occurred at startup:
18:52:25 <lakkarau> Error occurred while trying to get the updates needed for the database. Unable to get a connection to the database. Please check your openmrs runtime properties file and make sure you have the correct connection.username and connection.password set
18:52:25 <lakkarau> OpenmrsUtil.getRuntimePropertiesFilePathName(2443) |2012-07-19 11:26:10,036| Unable to find a runtime properties file at C:\openMRSws\openmrs\webapp\openmrs-runtime.properties
18:54:33 <bwolfe> lakkarau, delete or rename any/all runtime properties files so that you can install a-fresh
18:55:01 <lakkarau> bwolfe:where can i get them
18:55:24 <bwolfe> lakkarau, search for them? they can be in any number of places depending on how/where you ran openmrs.
18:55:47 <bwolfe> https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Overriding+OpenMRS+Default+Runtime+Properties
18:55:48 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8c91> (at wiki.openmrs.org)
18:56:12 <lakkarau> bwolfe:ok
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18:59:18 <cpower> who wants to Scrum?
18:59:45 <cpower> I know I want to Scrum
19:00:51 <cpower> I feel like I'm talking to myself...
19:01:16 <bwolfe> scrum? whats scrum?
19:01:19 <cpower> *because I am, since no one is sitting in the cube with me
19:02:05 <cpower> I need to be an admin in this channel so I can kick people out like bwolfe...
19:02:25 <cpower> Enough of this! Let us have our daily Scrum
19:02:31 <cpower> !scrumon cpower
19:02:31 * OpenMRSBot says the DAILY SCRUM MEETING is STARTING. This meeting should not last longer than 15 minutes. Please hold other comments until the end of the meeting, or message someone privately. Thank you! ScrumMaster cpower- you may begin when ready.
19:03:52 <cpower> Order: Wyclif, lakkarau, kishoreyekkanti, dkayiwa, suranga, rafa, djazayeri, and the infedel bwolfe
19:04:08 * bwolfe resists kicking cpower for his insolence
19:04:16 <rafa> hahaha
19:04:19 <rafa> hi
19:05:01 <cpower> Wyclif..your up
19:05:06 <wyclif> Wednesday:
19:05:06 <wyclif> Curating tickets
19:05:06 <wyclif> design call
19:05:06 <wyclif> TRUNK-3606 - Update getting started wiki pages to refer to github
19:05:06 <wyclif> TRUNK-3605 - Update module documentation to refer to github
19:05:07 <wyclif> Thursday:
19:05:09 <wyclif> curate tickets
19:05:13 <wyclif> dev call
19:05:15 <wyclif> Create wiki documentation for concept validation in relation to TRUNK-3479
19:05:17 <wyclif> git migration documentation tickets
19:05:19 <wyclif> Blockers: None
19:05:29 <lakkarau> wednesday:
19:05:30 <lakkarau> Worked on TRUNK-3589.
19:05:30 <lakkarau> thursday:
19:05:30 <lakkarau> working on Trunk-3491
19:05:30 <lakkarau> blocker- application not running and trying to fix that problem.
19:05:39 <cpower> I'll take it
19:05:45 <cpower> kishore
19:06:14 <kishoreyekkanti> just now done with the release test configuration to CI https://ci.openmrs.org/browse/FUNC-APPTEST-105
19:06:34 <kishoreyekkanti> its configured successfully and no blockers
19:06:41 <rafa> kishoreyekkanti: hurray!
19:06:50 <dkayiwa> Curated tickets
19:06:50 <dkayiwa> Dev Call
19:06:51 <dkayiwa> Still Curating more tickets
19:06:51 <dkayiwa> No Blockers
19:06:52 <kishoreyekkanti> i've posted the solution to the dev list
19:07:09 <bwolfe> kishoreyekkanti++
19:07:16 <cpower> indeed
19:07:22 <cpower> Suranaga
19:07:24 <bwolfe> dkayiwa?
19:07:29 <bwolfe> oh, missed it. sorry
19:07:34 <dkayiwa> :D
19:08:03 <bwolfe> dkayiwa, will want you to try out the workflow of github soon after we make the docs for it. as a new github user, your feedback and updates to the docs wil be helpful
19:08:11 <bwolfe> suranga not around?
19:08:18 <dkayiwa> bwolfe: ok :)
19:08:23 <cpower> Rafa...hi
19:08:26 <cpower> go
19:08:29 <rafa> Today:
19:08:29 <rafa> * Fixed tests in MDS for 1.9
19:08:29 <rafa> * Completed META-228: Cannot import a concept containing a mapping in OpenMRS 1.9
19:08:29 <rafa> https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/META-228
19:08:29 <rafa> * Dev call
19:08:29 <rafa> No blockers.
19:09:04 <cpower> djazayeri you have 6 mins
19:09:29 <bwolfe> kishoreyekkanti, would like update on your trunk github progress too
19:10:08 <kishoreyekkanti> bwolfe: sure! didn't had much progress using svn2git and resorted to use plain git-svn. but haven't progressed much!
19:10:22 <cpower> ok bwolfe go
19:10:27 <bwolfe> ok
19:10:29 <bwolfe> ok
19:10:35 <kishoreyekkanti> bwolfe: I don't have great bandwidth at home now so can't checkout the code. will do the same tomorro w morning my time(IST)
19:10:36 <bwolfe> Wednesday
19:10:36 <bwolfe> githubbing of trunk
19:10:36 <bwolfe> triaged/curated another handful of tickets
19:10:36 <bwolfe> univ call
19:10:36 <bwolfe> design call
19:10:37 <bwolfe> pm call
19:10:39 <bwolfe> gathered users for authors.txt file
19:10:41 <bwolfe> Thursday
19:10:43 <bwolfe> applied IDGEN-11
19:10:45 <bwolfe> created trunk ticket for conv method
19:10:47 <bwolfe> triaged ERR tickets
19:10:49 <bwolfe> hit inbox0 /again/
19:10:49 <rafa> kishoreyekkanti: how often do functional tests run?
19:10:51 <bwolfe> reviewed TRUNK-3589 for uma
19:10:53 <bwolfe> dev call
19:10:55 <bwolfe> curate tickets
19:10:59 <bwolfe> githubbing with kishore?
19:11:01 <bwolfe> created curation dashboard
19:11:03 <bwolfe> reviewed the reviewed tickets
19:11:05 <bwolfe> no blockers
19:11:29 <rafa> kishoreyekkanti: I mean the release tests
19:11:37 <kishoreyekkanti> rafa: Currently the cron is on every day early morning 2:00 a.m.
19:11:50 <bwolfe> where is djazayeri?
19:11:54 <rafa> kishoreyekkanti: great thanks
19:11:55 <bwolfe> mia?
19:11:56 <kishoreyekkanti> rafa: but i guess thats too long a interval. We can run them at least 4 times a day
19:12:17 <kishoreyekkanti> rafa: should take 15 minutes to run the entire suite
19:12:24 <cpower> Discussion: Github Kishore, Blocker: app not running and trying to fix it
19:12:32 <cpower> !scrumoff
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19:12:39 <djazayeri> sorry, in meetings
19:12:42 <djazayeri> last day in boston
19:12:44 <bwolfe> kishoreyekkanti, anything you need from me atm?
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19:13:01 <kishoreyekkanti> bwolfe: not really! i need to checkout the code!
19:13:07 <cpower> someone help Lakkarau..ok nevermind
19:13:30 <bwolfe> cpower, I thought we addressed that before the scrum. she asked djazayeri and I about it
19:13:36 <cpower> ok
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19:14:33 <kishoreyekkanti> all, have a great day! sleeping time for me
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19:14:46 <bwolfe> gnight kishoreyekkanti. start the process while you sleep... :-)
19:14:46 <djazayeri> kishoreyekkanti: cool that those are working!
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19:39:10 <mgielow> bwolfe, are you there?
19:39:46 <bwolfe> maybe
19:39:52 <bwolfe> depends what you're offering ;-)
19:40:04 <mgielow> just problems im afraid :)
19:41:19 <bwolfe> hmm, ok
19:41:20 <mgielow> ive run into some problem with the rest api and was wondering if you might be able to tell me what i missed
19:41:55 <mgielow> id like to retrieve a list of all items of a particular resource (e.g. Location) including retired ones
19:43:13 <mgielow> ive read a dev list topic from last year where several options regarding that were discussed.. has any one found its way to implementation?
19:45:57 <bwolfe> mgielow, you can't get all locations with a url call right now??
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19:46:25 <mgielow> only non-retired ones if im not mistaken
19:46:48 <bwolfe> oh
19:46:50 <bwolfe> hmm
19:48:28 <bwolfe> mgielow, hmm, yes, looks like its not implemented: https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/REST+Web+Service+Resources#RESTWebServiceResources-Location
19:49:19 <bwolfe> mgielow, feature request!
19:49:50 <bwolfe> my suggestion: add a common property to the RequestContext like "includeRetired" and "includeVoided"
19:50:00 <bwolfe> then methods like this can look that up and pass that ot the api to get the locations
19:50:46 <mgielow> ok that sounds fair enough. i would gladly volunteer to implement the feature if theres an agreement
19:52:03 <bwolfe> mgielow, create a ticket.
19:52:08 <bwolfe> there will be agreement ;-)
19:52:09 <bwolfe> brb
19:53:11 <mgielow> ok will do that, ill also link to last year's discussion about it - there were some concerns there
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20:18:22 <jkeiper> so, i realize i'm late to the discussion but ... if i want to move data integrity module to github, should i be putting it under jlkeiper/openmrs-modules-dataintegrity or openmrs/openmrs-modules-dataintegrity ... or ampath/openmrs-modules-dataintegrity ..?
20:18:46 <bwolfe> jkeiper, dealer's choice
20:18:58 <bwolfe> and its openmrs-module-... (singular)
20:21:23 <jkeiper> bwolfe, ah
20:21:38 <jkeiper> bwolfe, so ... what are the implications if i put it under openmrs/ ?
20:21:49 <jkeiper> does it mean that openmrs is in "control"?
20:21:52 <bwolfe> world domination will ensue
20:22:00 <jkeiper> (i was afraid of that)
20:22:09 <bwolfe> you are still in control
20:22:20 <bwolfe> putting it there is like putting it in our svn repo. we're just facilitating hosting it
20:23:42 <jkeiper> bwolfe, ok ... am i doing something "wrong" (ethically) if i put it under my name but it was originally written by someone else?
20:24:12 <bwolfe> nah
20:24:31 <jkeiper> heheh
20:24:40 <jkeiper> mmkay
20:24:56 <jkeiper> idk if 'ampath' is the right place for dataintegrity
20:25:00 <jkeiper> but it is for amrs-*
20:27:11 <bwolfe> decisions decisions
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21:41:16 <Walash> Hello...anywhere anyone know how to change the banner for openmrs
21:41:30 <Walash> Or make a new theme?
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