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| 08:21:37 | <Guest96079> Hi all |
| 08:21:52 | <Guest96079> I wanted some help regarding unit testing of a module |
| 08:27:44 | <Guest96079> anyone here..I wanted help specifically with testing authorizations |
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| 10:30:03 | <snoppy> wyclif: hi, wyclif! |
| 10:33:46 | <snoppy> wyclif: oh, i forgot about difference in time) |
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| 11:11:32 | <dkayiwa> hi rafa |
| 11:13:26 | <rafa> hi dkayiwa |
| 11:13:50 | <dkayiwa> rafa: do you thinks the privilege check module is now ready for testing? |
| 11:14:23 | <rafa> dkayiwa: no, I need to make changes from yesterday's call |
| 11:14:32 | <dkayiwa> rafa: ok |
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| 11:27:19 | <applecool> hey rafa |
| 11:27:28 | <rafa> applecool: hi |
| 11:27:52 | <applecool> couldnt made it at our normal 3:30 time! due to powercut |
| 11:28:04 | <rafa> applecool: I understand |
| 11:28:12 | <rafa> applecool: how are things? |
| 11:28:24 | <rafa> applecool: I saw your changes in the UI |
| 11:28:33 | <applecool> i dint change much |
| 11:28:34 | <rafa> applecool: You need to add a title to the header |
| 11:28:41 | <rafa> applecool: Metadata Repository |
| 11:29:04 | <applecool> title? |
| 11:29:16 | <rafa> applecool: yeah right to the OpeMRS logo |
| 11:29:33 | <rafa> applecool: how are 2 other tasks? |
| 11:29:40 | <applecool> ohk! |
| 11:30:03 | <applecool> the other two tasks are good! :) |
| 11:30:21 | <rafa> applecool: done? |
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| 11:30:27 | <applecool> no not done! |
| 11:30:30 | <applecool> in progres |
| 11:30:36 | <applecool> wil complete them soon |
| 11:30:49 | <rafa> applecool: will you have them ready by tomorrow? |
| 11:30:59 | <applecool> hope so! |
| 11:31:04 | <applecool> :) |
| 11:31:27 | <rafa> applecool: if yes, we could be back on schedule |
| 11:31:36 | <applecool> my tomcat is giving me lot of trouble! |
| 11:31:39 | <rafa> applecool: and start working on displaying packages |
| 11:31:41 | <applecool> oh cool! yeah |
| 11:31:49 | <rafa> applecool: I've upgraded jetty in the project |
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| 11:31:54 | <rafa> applecool: you should try to run it again |
| 11:32:04 | <rafa> applecool: it's much easier to develop with jetty |
| 11:32:08 | <applecool> okay! ! |
| 11:32:17 | <applecool> i will try to do it now! |
| 11:32:26 | <applecool> i will just pull it! :D |
| 11:32:44 | <rafa> applecool: I did that a week ago ;) |
| 11:33:04 | <applecool> yeah you told me! but forgot! :D |
| 11:33:34 | <rafa> applecool: yes, I could have mentioned that |
| 11:33:43 | <rafa> applecool: but you had tomcat running |
| 11:34:05 | <rafa> applecool: anyway if it gives you trouble now you can try jetty again |
| 11:34:44 | <applecool> yeah! it dint give me trouble in the start! and even when i was working in the night after my system reboot it dint give me any problem! |
| 11:34:56 | <applecool> but again same problem today ! i rebooted thrice |
| 11:35:08 | <applecool> i will try jetty! |
| 11:35:08 | <applecool> :) |
| 11:35:20 | <rafa> dkayiwa: I have a problem with starting jetty in trunk |
| 11:35:23 | <rafa> dkayiwa: Caused by: org.openmrs.module.OpenmrsCoreModuleException: The following modules are marked as 'core' by OpenMRS but were unable to start: logic v0.5.2, |
| 11:35:33 | <rafa> dkayiwa: it's very often |
| 11:35:49 | <rafa> dkayiwa: and I need to do clean install to make it work again |
| 11:35:55 | <rafa> dkayiwa: do you know what may be the reason? |
| 11:36:01 | <dkayiwa> rafa: surprising i have just updated and mine works well |
| 11:36:16 | <dkayiwa> rafa: but i did an mvn clean install |
| 11:36:41 | <dkayiwa> rafa: does it give any reason why it was unable to start? |
| 11:37:22 | <rafa> dkayiwa: nope :/ |
| 11:37:40 | <rafa> dkayiwa: ohh wait got it |
| 11:37:43 | <rafa> dkayiwa: WARN - ModuleFactory.startModuleInternal(668) |2012-05-31 13:14:55,394| Error while trying to start module: logic |
| 11:37:43 | <rafa> org.openmrs.module.ModuleException: Module requires at least version 1.7.2.17710, Current code version is only ${parsedVersion.majorVersion}.${parsedVersion.m |
| 11:37:43 | <rafa> at org.openmrs.module.ModuleUtil.checkRequiredVersion(ModuleUtil.java:329) |
| 11:38:11 | <dkayiwa> rafa: so you are using an old version of logic |
| 11:38:18 | <rafa> dkayiwa: seems like maven doesn't set the variables |
| 11:38:34 | <rafa> dkayiwa: how is that? |
| 11:38:40 | <dkayiwa> rafa: on your computer only? |
| 11:38:55 | <rafa> dkayiwa: isn't the right version included in trunk? |
| 11:39:43 | <dkayiwa> rafa: it is |
| 11:40:07 | <rafa> dkayiwa: do you start jetty with jetty:run or package jetty:run? |
| 11:40:21 | <dkayiwa> rafa: maybe you are sharing the application directory with another openmrs instance that has a lower version of logic? |
| 11:40:38 | <rafa> dkayiwa: I have all versions separated |
| 11:40:59 | <dkayiwa> rafa: i use jetty:run |
| 11:42:13 | <rafa> dkayiwa: okay thanks |
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| 11:49:29 | <applecool> rafa: there? |
| 11:49:37 | <rafa> dkayiwa: yes |
| 11:49:40 | <rafa> applecool: yes |
| 11:49:42 | <applecool> Launch configuration metadataserver references non-existing project metadataserver. |
| 11:49:59 | <applecool> got this error when i try to run jetty |
| 11:50:15 | <rafa> applecool: you need to delete this launch configuration |
| 11:50:40 | <applecool> means? |
| 11:51:05 | <rafa> applecool: go to run configurations... |
| 11:51:28 | <rafa> applecool: and right click on the metadataserver configuation and delete |
| 11:51:29 | <applecool> yup! |
| 11:51:55 | <rafa> applecool: then right click on the metadataserver-web and choose run as Maven build... |
| 11:52:22 | <rafa> applecool: then write jetty:run as a goal and click apply and then run |
| 11:52:52 | <applecool> ok i will try :) |
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| 11:59:31 | <applecool> rafa: problem |
| 11:59:38 | <applecool> build failure! |
| 11:59:55 | <applecool> rafa: http://pastebin.com/4x3sVa12 |
| 12:01:00 | <rafa> applecool: some problem with your internect connection |
| 12:01:05 | <rafa> applecool: try agian |
| 12:01:18 | <applecool> okay! |
| 12:06:06 | <applecool> Started Jetty Server [INFO] Starting scanner at interval of 3 seconds. |
| 12:06:16 | <applecool> is it a good sign? rafa |
| 12:06:42 | <rafa> applecool: very good :) |
| 12:06:49 | <applecool> cool!!! |
| 12:06:53 | <applecool> done! it run! :D |
| 12:07:05 | <applecool> WOW!!! :) |
| 12:07:15 | <applecool> Thanks rafa :) |
| 12:07:26 | <rafa> applecool: great |
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| 12:07:52 | <rafa> applecool: one more tip is that you can stop it and start in debug mode |
| 12:08:06 | <rafa> applecool: just use debug as... instead of run as.. |
| 12:08:17 | <rafa> applecool: you'll be able to set breakpoints |
| 12:08:29 | <applecool> Okay! cool! wonderful! |
| 12:08:30 | <rafa> applecool: no configuration needed |
| 12:08:48 | <applecool> now i goto know y tomcat sucks! :D |
| 12:10:13 | <dkayiwa> applecool: yes it does when it is cool. Just warm it a bit or give it an orange instead an apple :D |
| 12:10:58 | <applecool> Haha!! :D :D dkayiwa sure! :D :P |
| 12:11:08 | <applecool> dkayiwa: you are one humorous person :P :D |
| 12:11:44 | <dkayiwa> applecool: because my wife feeds me with lots of refrigerated apples these days d:) |
| 12:12:23 | <applecool> hehe!! Apple is damn good for health!! :D |
| 12:12:39 | <applecool> An Apple a Day keeps a doctor away! |
| 12:12:43 | <dkayiwa> applecool: i fully agree!!! :) |
| 12:12:45 | <applecool> but not OpenMRS :D |
| 12:12:58 | <dkayiwa> lolllll :D |
| 12:13:09 | <applecool> haha! :P |
| 12:17:52 | <applecool> rafa: again there is a problem called java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space in this jetty!! need to run it again! :D this was not there in tomcat! :P |
| 12:18:19 | <rafa> applecool: ohh you need to give it more memory |
| 12:18:34 | <applecool> rafa: i am familiar with this error a lot! when i worked with websphere! |
| 12:18:41 | <applecool> rafa: oh cool! where ? |
| 12:19:01 | <rafa> applecool: open the configuration and the JRE tab and paste in the vm arguments: |
| 12:19:10 | <rafa> -Xmx512m -Xms128m -XX:PermSize=128m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m |
| 12:26:07 | <applecool> rafa: cool :) |
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| 12:45:52 | <sunbiz1> anyone here... why do I need a Customdatatype for writing String?? |
| 12:45:58 | <sunbiz1> into the attributes?? |
| 12:46:09 | <sunbiz1> why is it not java.lang.String |
| 12:46:54 | <sunbiz1> instead its something... org.openmrs.customdatatype.datatype.FreeTextDatatype |
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| 12:50:36 | <bwolfe> sunbiz1, no one is here ;-) |
| 12:52:22 | <bwolfe> sunbiz1, I'm not sure why that was created. but if I had to guess its so it can be found automatically and added to the options and so that there doesn't have to be a special case when processing |
| 12:58:48 | <sunbiz1> it is bad IMO |
| 12:59:08 | <sunbiz1> and different from other places in the system |
| 13:01:54 | <bwolfe> other places == person attributes? |
| 13:02:11 | <bwolfe> person attributes are supposed to be converting to these, although I'm not sure when. :-/ |
| 13:02:59 | <sunbiz1> bwolfe: there u have java.lang.String |
| 13:03:17 | <sunbiz1> as well as many openmrs classes |
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| 13:27:47 | <wyclif> dkayiwa, this changeset doesn't work for me 10-insert-new-app-privileges |
| 13:28:01 | <dkayiwa> wyclif: what error do u get? |
| 13:28:35 | <wyclif> no default value for uuid column |
| 13:28:51 | <dkayiwa> wyclif: oh i see |
| 13:28:52 | <wyclif> dkayiwa, no default value for uuid column |
| 13:29:50 | <wyclif> dkayiwa, same thing for 11-insert-new-api-privileges |
| 13:29:59 | <dkayiwa> wyclif: ok |
| 13:30:39 | <rafa> wyclif: dkayiwa can we write a test for that? |
| 13:31:30 | <wyclif> rafa, for that changeset? |
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| 13:31:44 | <rafa> wyclif: yes what data causes it to fail? |
| 13:32:03 | <rafa> wyclif: are you running the demo db? |
| 13:32:08 | <wyclif> rafa, it because we are not setting the uuid feild |
| 13:32:14 | <wyclif> field |
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| 13:36:36 | <rafa> dkayiwa: wyclif I've just run liquibaserunner and got the same error :D |
| 13:36:55 | <dkayiwa> rafa: for a fresh install? |
| 13:37:05 | <rafa> dkayiwa: for an upgrade from 1.6 |
| 13:37:11 | <dkayiwa> rafa: ok |
| 13:37:12 | <wyclif> dkayiwa, i think it doesn't matter |
| 13:37:14 | <rafa> dkayiwa: 1.6 clean db |
| 13:37:24 | <dkayiwa> wyclif: fresh install works |
| 13:37:48 | <wyclif> but changeset is not setting the uuid |
| 13:37:49 | <rafa> I can't wait when we'll have the CI setup with liquibaserunner :D |
| 13:37:59 | <dkayiwa> rafa: :) |
| 13:38:21 | <wyclif> rafa, that would be cool |
| 13:38:42 | <rafa> downey is working on that :) |
| 13:39:01 | <downey> rafa: can you make a note in the ticket with your syntax changes? |
| 13:39:12 | <rafa> downey: sure |
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| 14:05:55 | <downey> !devmtg |
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| 14:05:55 | <OpenMRSBot> downey: "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer Forum Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern Time - https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/RES/Developers+Forum |
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| 14:39:03 | <djazayeri> downey: what is the "buea" server being used for now? |
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| 14:44:57 | <wyclif> rafa, is the privilege helper module in GIT or SVN? |
| 14:45:09 | <rafa> wyclif: it's in git |
| 14:45:28 | <wyclif> rafa, thanks |
| 14:45:40 | <rafa> wyclif: I'm still working on that |
| 14:45:46 | <bwolfe> djazayeri, its used for not running performance tests. (cc downey) |
| 14:46:11 | <wyclif> rafa, ok |
| 14:46:24 | <djazayeri> downey, bwolfe: my understanding was that it got repurposed as something else in the last year |
| 14:47:00 | <downey> sorry - had window closed. buea is still allocated for testing, yes |
| 14:49:18 | <downey> the selenium tests haven't worked since firefox architecture changes long ago, but it sounds like thought works has been working to resolve that |
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| 15:22:42 | <mccallumg> jordank: how's the new dictionary updating tool? |
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| 15:40:59 | <pushkar> Hi bwolfe |
| 15:49:39 | <djazayeri> mccallumg: hey, I just saw your question |
| 15:49:42 | <djazayeri> about dev resources |
| 15:50:03 | <djazayeri> mccallumg: or rather: "can someone without dev resources sponsor a sprint" |
| 15:51:05 | <mccallumg> djazayeri: it's extraneous to the experiment this week. |
| 15:51:23 | <djazayeri> mccallumg: Yes, it's separate from this. But I think the answer is definitely yes. |
| 15:51:27 | <snoppy> wyclif: hi, wyclif! Are you here? |
| 15:52:00 | <djazayeri> mccallumg: Obviously, if someone proposes a sprint and says "we can bring 3 devs, but we need an OpenMRS core dev to commit code / confirm design / etc", that will sound better |
| 15:52:22 | <mccallumg> djazayeri: but if the experiment works (and people respond to feature voting) then people could "pledge" money towards a feature - and donate the money to openmrs to cover the cost of development. |
| 15:52:58 | <mccallumg> djazayeri: like kick-starter for openmrs |
| 15:53:39 | <djazayeri> mccallumg: but I'd very much welcome someone without dev resources saying "there's a useful sprint that covers features X, Y, and Z. I can help with requirements analysis, and I can commit to doing in-depth acceptance testing ASAP, but it needs devs". |
| 15:53:48 | <snoppy> wyclif: I've created trunk directore for the module? Should I cteate another 2 directories(tags and branches)? Or trunk dir enough? |
| 15:53:56 | <djazayeri> mccallumg: and if that's strategic, it should get worked on. |
| 15:55:01 | <djazayeri> mccallumg: as far as money, we haven't really got a mechanism for that. (OpenMRS doesn't employ any developers directlyâ¦) |
| 15:55:27 | <mccallumg> djazayeri: but that could come in the future as OpenMRS gets established as a non-profit |
| 15:55:44 | <wyclif> snoppy, i have updated the project's design wiki page |
| 15:56:02 | <wyclif> snoppy, you should have trunk, tags and branches |
| 15:56:13 | <snoppy> wyclif: I see. |
| 15:56:17 | <snoppy> wyclif: ok |
| 15:56:18 | <wyclif> snoppy, great |
| 15:56:18 | <djazayeri> mccallumg: Yes. Though it will definitely require there being OpenMRS-employed developers for this, rather than just seconded resources. |
| 15:56:51 | <wyclif> snoppy, how did using the maven archetype go?, isn't it cool? |
| 15:57:50 | <mccallumg> djazayeri: maybe be then there will be openmrs employees :) |
| 15:57:54 | <mccallumg> *by |
| 15:58:00 | <snoppy> wyclif: Yes! |
| 15:58:41 | <snoppy> snoppy: and module-wizard is greate thing!) |
| 16:00:10 | <snoppy> wyclif: and module-wizard is greate thing!) |
| 16:01:02 | <wyclif> snoppy, cool |
| 16:01:15 | <wyclif> but i generates some unncessary files |
| 16:01:38 | <wyclif> e.g the messages_fr.properties and messaged_es .properties files |
| 16:02:00 | <wyclif> snoppy, am off to lunch with the group here in indianapolis |
| 16:02:07 | <wyclif> snoppy, talk to u later |
| 16:02:55 | <snoppy> wyclif:bon appetit!) |
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| 16:03:52 | <snoppy> wyclif: I'm also off to dinner) |
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| 16:38:05 | <mvorobey> hi all |
| 16:38:16 | <applecool> Hi mvorobey |
| 16:38:18 | <applecool> :) |
| 16:38:33 | <mccallumg> jordank: how's it going today? |
| 16:39:53 | <mvorobey> applecool, :) |
| 16:40:29 | <mvorobey> applecool, how it's going ? |
| 16:40:49 | <applecool> good! well and fine! hows yours? :) |
| 16:41:04 | <jordank> hi mccallumg I haven't been able to figure out the tool yet... still trying to import my sql file |
| 16:41:31 | <mccallumg> jordank: how are you importing your sql file? |
| 16:42:40 | <mvorobey> applecool, good, good :) going to ping daniel and have a bit of chatting with him :) |
| 16:43:12 | <mvorobey> dkayiwa, hi |
| 16:43:17 | <applecool> cool go on! :D |
| 16:43:30 | <mvorobey> :D |
| 16:45:20 | <jordank> mccallumg: I was trying to use the tool and the command line then I tried with MAMP, but that didn't do anything so I'm still trying the command line |
| 16:46:07 | <mccallumg> jordank: think about this first though - what is that script going to do to your existing concepts (the ones you just created for your form)? |
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| 16:48:42 | <jordank> mccallumg: "drop table if exists" so I would lose them |
| 16:48:58 | <mccallumg> jordank: bingo. |
| 16:49:30 | <mccallumg> jordank: so what to do? |
| 16:52:09 | <jordank> mccallumg: I only had a few concepts that I created, so if I was a user, I might try to export my concepts somewhere and import the dictionary with 45000 concepts & then add mine to that later.... but I don't know. |
| 16:52:44 | <mccallumg> jordank: but you're experiment is atypical. Most sites will have at least 1000 of their own concepts. |
| 16:54:42 | <jordank> mccallumg: right.. |
| 16:55:06 | <mccallumg> jordank: now it is getting fun isn't it?:) |
| 16:55:10 | <mccallumg> :) |
| 16:56:20 | <jordank> mccallumg: haha yep.... so I need to change the sql file to insert instead of drop? |
| 16:57:07 | <mccallumg> jordank: not yet. We need to develop a hypothesis then test it with the users somehow. |
| 16:57:17 | <applecool> !seen rafa |
| 16:57:17 | <OpenMRSBot> applecool: rafa was last seen in #openmrs 2 hours, 11 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <rafa> wyclif: I'm still working on that |
| 16:59:32 | <jordank> mccallumg: a hypothesis for what happens when I want to add a new dictionary in OpenMRS? |
| 17:00:37 | <mccallumg> jordank: I'm thinking more basic - not to do with software. Hypothesis about the broader solution. |
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| 17:02:27 | <mccallumg> jordank: question the assumptions I've given you. |
| 17:04:05 | <jordank> mccallumg: something like deciding if similar concepts should be handled before or after importing a new dictionary? |
| 17:04:31 | <mccallumg> jordank: think more fundamental. |
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| 17:06:04 | <suranga> hi pulasthi7 |
| 17:06:19 | <suranga> pulasthi7, I didnt notice you signing in :) |
| 17:06:19 | <pulasthi7> hi suranga |
| 17:06:27 | <suranga> you are tooo quiet :-) |
| 17:06:34 | <pulasthi7> i just signed in |
| 17:06:51 | <pulasthi7> about 5 mins ago |
| 17:07:03 | <suranga> pulasthi7, aha, I see |
| 17:07:13 | <jordank> mccallumg: I'll get back to you :) what's the advantage of adding a concept dictionary if you already put time into making 1000+ of your own? |
| 17:07:37 | <suranga> pulasthi7, I will be closing up the ticket we have on task 1 |
| 17:08:15 | <suranga> I'll also wrap up the document trail to be done from my end |
| 17:08:36 | <pulasthi7> suranga, is the review finished? |
| 17:08:56 | <suranga> pulasthi7, it is unofficially finished :-) |
| 17:09:15 | <suranga> I will leave it open for some more time, and wrap it up soon |
| 17:09:36 | <pulasthi7> ok :-) |
| 17:10:18 | <suranga> looking at your summary on task 2, I see you wont be taking the hql approach. That should be ok, since Dr. Shaun is also in favour of it :) |
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| 17:11:30 | <jordank> mccallumg: also a user probably shouldn't need to know about eclipse and maven, right? |
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| 17:11:43 | <pulasthi7> suranga: that means using the sql |
| 17:11:57 | <mccallumg> jordank: concept dictionary has mappings to SNOMED-CT. But more importantly - using a shared concept dictionary allows sites to share forms and reports with relative ease. And that saves them a lot of work. |
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| 17:12:44 | <mccallumg> jordank: wrt eclipse and maven - that's something to consider. But the current set of openmrs implementers have technical capacity. |
| 17:13:10 | <jordank> oh cool |
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| 17:13:59 | <mccallumg> jordank: back to the ticket: https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-2351 |
| 17:14:03 | <suranga> pulasthi7, sorry, I inadvernetly mixed that up. Are you planning on using sql or hql for the query ? |
| 17:15:15 | <mccallumg> jordank: Look at the first sentence: "As the OCC and MCL are improving to manage concepts from various sources, " |
| 17:15:33 | <pulasthi7> suranga: I think i have to. to take the counts |
| 17:16:22 | <mccallumg> jordank: OCC is a group called "OpenMRS Concept Collaborative" https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/OpenMRS+Concept+Cooperative+%28OCC%29 |
| 17:16:27 | <pulasthi7> suranga, Did you have something different in mind? |
| 17:17:08 | <mccallumg> jordank: I don't think that the OCC has released a version of a concept dictionary (someone correct me if I'm wrong) |
| 17:17:54 | <mccallumg> jordank: so really there is one main centrally managed dictionary (MVP) |
| 17:18:01 | <suranga> pulasthi7, nope, should not be a problem. Our only worry was how much it would affect the utilization of resources... |
| 17:19:00 | <mccallumg> jordank: and you've been working with it all week. and discovered something. (what did you discover?) |
| 17:19:49 | <pulasthi7> suranga: i think we have to get the count of records somehow using sql or hql. the calculation part can be done with java. I think that's what dr.shaun meant. |
| 17:20:24 | <suranga> pulasthi7, sorry, I was thinking :) |
| 17:20:28 | <suranga> pulasthi7, you are right |
| 17:21:04 | <suranga> plus, if we dont use queries, we would have to read in 10-20k patients into memory each time... and that baaad for resource usage |
| 17:21:22 | <pulasthi7> suranga: don't know whether i've misunderstood though |
| 17:21:44 | <suranga> pulasthi7, no, I agreee.. i was actually thinking if hql or sql is better |
| 17:23:07 | <pulasthi7> suranga: ah, what would you recommend hql or sql? |
| 17:24:05 | <suranga> pulasthi7, hmmm.... I would recomend asking bwolfe or djazayeri ... from what I know, I prefer hql |
| 17:24:40 | <suranga> hi bwolfe djazayeri ... can you guys comment wether sql or hql is better resoucre and speed wise to run a massive query ? |
| 17:25:01 | <jordank> mccallumg: that it's not very easy to get to and I might lose the concepts I made... |
| 17:25:31 | <bwolfe> suranga, its the same |
| 17:25:39 | <bwolfe> suranga, the hql is translated to sql and then run |
| 17:25:41 | <djazayeri> suranga, pulasthi7: depends on what you're trying to do with the output |
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| 17:26:27 | <bwolfe> I would recommend hql. you can get specific columns back with hql. but you can get them as objects instead of raw types |
| 17:26:42 | <bwolfe> if you do that wrong, you might be making lazy-load calls for each row. and that will make it seem like its super slow |
| 17:27:00 | <suranga> bwolfe, djazayeri basically we need to do something like calculate the count with a query like "count where x.<field> not null and x.<field> !="" and x.<field>=y.<field>" for n number of fields |
| 17:27:11 | <mccallumg> jordank: right. there's no straightforward path to adopt MVP for an existing implementation. And there's no way to update the MVP dictionary if your deployment has any local concepts defined. |
| 17:27:40 | <pulasthi7> bwolfe, djazayeri , it would be to take counts in most cases |
| 17:28:05 | <jordank> mccallumg: which is why we need this super tool? :) |
| 17:28:41 | <suranga> djazayeri, would you recomend hql for this task because we need to access specific columns ? |
| 17:29:11 | <mccallumg> jordank: which is why a super tool is needed. But I'm not sure that this ticket is asking for it. What do you think? |
| 17:29:31 | <bwolfe> suranga, any will work. criteria, hql, or sql. :-) |
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| 17:30:01 | <bwolfe> there are examples of doing counts in criteria in, say, HibernateConceptDAO . look at getCount* methods |
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| 17:30:08 | <bwolfe> err |
| 17:30:15 | <suranga> hmmm... bwolfe I seee. so you wont recomend any single one in terms of speed ? :-) |
| 17:30:15 | <bwolfe> getConceptCount maybe |
| 17:30:30 | <bwolfe> I recommend criteria over anything for readability and maintainability |
| 17:30:33 | <bwolfe> then hql |
| 17:30:34 | <bwolfe> then sql |
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| 17:32:26 | <jordank> mccallumg: I think this ticket is asking for help maintaining local and external concepts |
| 17:32:36 | <dkayiwa> wyclif: rafa Do the changesets still fail? |
| 17:32:52 | <suranga> bwolfe, I see.. thanks for the tip :-) |
| 17:33:12 | <jordank> mccallumg: or managing them |
| 17:33:38 | <wyclif> dkayiwa, haven't yet done an sv update |
| 17:33:48 | <dkayiwa> wyclif: ok |
| 17:33:52 | <wyclif> dkayiwa, have you committed anything to fix it? |
| 17:33:56 | <suranga> pulasthi7, since you are still in the design phase... I dont think you will be starting on the query work until tomorrow / weekend, is that right ? |
| 17:34:01 | <dkayiwa> wyclif: yes |
| 17:34:05 | <wyclif> dkayiwa, cool |
| 17:34:10 | <wyclif> dkayiwa, i will test it |
| 17:34:17 | <dkayiwa> wyclif: ok |
| 17:34:28 | <suranga> pulasthi7, you still need to plan how to get the fields and interate through them ? |
| 17:34:53 | <jordank> mccallumg: in the ticket, what does it mean to "switch over a concept" in the second paragraph? |
| 17:35:21 | <pulasthi7> bwolfe, thanks for your help :-) |
| 17:35:32 | <mccallumg> jordank: that means to replace on concept reference for another throughout the database. |
| 17:35:37 | <mvorobey> dkayiwa, hi, captain :) sorry, did not notice your comment on general section, but already added those 3 tests you requested :) |
| 17:36:03 | <dkayiwa> mvorobey: yes i have seen your patch. You are too fast!!! :D |
| 17:36:18 | <pulasthi7> suranga, I will probably need it by week end |
| 17:36:27 | <mccallumg> jordank: I'm not so sure on this ticket. My hypothesis is that neither Ampath nor PIH is using the MVP concept dictionary. Further - I don't think that they have plans to adopt it in the near-to-medium future. |
| 17:37:16 | <suranga> pulasthi7, well, this is a design issue, and once we start on it, theres no turning back. therefore, a good idea would be to write to the dev list on this one |
| 17:37:46 | <pushkar> !seen bwolfe |
| 17:37:46 | <OpenMRSBot> pushkar: bwolfe was last seen in #openmrs 7 minutes and 11 seconds ago: <bwolfe> then sql |
| 17:38:03 | <suranga> pulasthi7, give a basic explanation on why you need to calculate using queries, and name the three options (hql, criteria and sql) |
| 17:38:19 | <suranga> also include what bwolfe said (for clarity) |
| 17:38:22 | <mccallumg> mccallumg: because of all the reasons that you've discovered this week. |
| 17:38:39 | <mccallumg> jordank: ^ |
| 17:38:50 | <pushkar> bwolfe, I have a few doubts regarding saving of obs |
| 17:38:52 | <mccallumg> jordank: and because of the lack of a super tool |
| 17:39:00 | <suranga> pulasthi7, we might get further support / advice from the list. if not, at least we have aplaceholder on why we elected to take this approach |
| 17:39:08 | <jordank> mccallumg: so the idea is that it would be helpful if they could adopt it without the trouble of conflicting mvp concepts with their own? |
| 17:39:34 | <mccallumg> pushkar: don't say 'doubts' , say 'questions' - it's an english translation thing |
| 17:40:04 | <mccallumg> jordank: oh yeah that would be helpful, I agree. But is that what they're asking for? |
| 17:40:52 | <pushkar> mccallumg, okay questions |
| 17:40:59 | <pulasthi7> suranga, i'll do that. we'll get some good advice from them |
| 17:42:20 | <mvorobey> dkayiwa, it was too easy :) |
| 17:42:30 | <suranga> pulasthi7, it will also serve as a record as to why we decided to go with any of the above three choices |
| 17:42:35 | <dkayiwa> mvorobey: :D |
| 17:43:01 | <suranga> pulasthi7, but please make sure to include some information on the format of the query (that is, that we need to do a count *) |
| 17:43:14 | <dkayiwa> mvorobey: too easy because you are now an openmrs expert :) |
| 17:43:56 | <suranga> pulasthi7, writing this email will also help you consolidate on your plan too |
| 17:45:24 | <jordank> mccallumg: well they're asking for a tool to change concept ids throughout the database to use when they merge or update dictionaries... which I think they want/ need because all of the forms, etc are connected to the concept ids |
| 17:45:47 | <mvorobey> dkayiwa, if am is an expert, then you are 1000k*expert :D |
| 17:45:50 | <pulasthi7> suranga, ok, I'll include the details as i have planned |
| 17:46:04 | <mvorobey> am is = am |
| 17:46:34 | <mccallumg> jordank: what other concept dictionaries do they merge with? |
| 17:46:57 | <suranga> pulasthi7, have you planned on the query - unrelated side of things yet ? |
| 17:47:08 | <dkayiwa> mvorobey: am an expert in some things (like xforms), while you are an expert in others where i am not :D |
| 17:48:02 | <suranga> pulasthi7, that is, how to iddentify the matching fields, and get them into a query, and add up the results ? (ok, im probably going too fast now :P) |
| 17:48:14 | <jordank> mccallumg: are MCL and MVP two different dictionaries? or what about merging with another site? |
| 17:48:40 | <mccallumg> jordank: MVP and MCL are now merged, I believe. |
| 17:49:13 | <mccallumg> jordank: right. You're on to something with this other site merging. |
| 17:49:18 | <mvorobey> dkayiwa, are not you an expert in karaoke singing ? :D |
| 17:49:42 | <suranga> pulasthi7, some other (better) news. its 130 rupees for the dollar now. Up by Rs. 3 as of last monday :D |
| 17:49:48 | <dkayiwa> mvorobey: hahahaha ofcourse am very much one in that one [:) |
| 17:49:50 | <pulasthi7> suranga, yes but some are not that detailed into the code level. |
| 17:50:19 | <mccallumg> jordank: I hypothesize that MVP is a red herring in the context of this ticket (although super tool is needed in the long run). |
| 17:50:21 | <pulasthi7> suranga, :D |
| 17:50:25 | <suranga> pulasthi7, cool. lets take this one step at a time... |
| 17:51:40 | <mvorobey> dkayiwa, awesome, we can make a band, I think we need rafa as backing vocals :) |
| 17:51:59 | <bwolfe> pushkar, so whats up? |
| 17:52:21 | <dkayiwa> mvorobey: llllllllllloooooooooollll. And i trust he will do a great job. bwolfe will be on the guitar :D |
| 17:52:26 | <mccallumg> jordank: But we need a way to test this hypothesis ⦠and others. |
| 17:52:36 | * bwolfe has no musical talent |
| 17:52:40 | <mvorobey> dkayiwa, ROFL :D |
| 17:52:58 | <mccallumg> jordank: I find it best to not ask the user specifically what they want - because they either (1) don't know or (2) don't know what's possible, or (3) don't know how to explain what they need. |
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| 17:53:20 | <jordank> mccallumg: pretend to be a user? |
| 17:53:36 | <mccallumg> jordank: . It is better to learn how they work and the problem they're experiencing - then to design a solution and validate it with them (via another hypothesis). |
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| 17:54:15 | <mccallumg> jordank: you definitely found out some of the problems with MVP adoption by pretending to be a user this week. |
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| 17:55:48 | <jordank> mccallumg: definitely... |
| 17:56:48 | <jordank> mccallumg: well I still haven't actually gotten it into my development space |
| 17:57:03 | <mccallumg> jordank: which development space? |
| 17:57:33 | <mccallumg> jordank: today my development space is outside on the porch. :) |
| 17:58:02 | <jordank> mccallumg: ohh :) I meant my openmrs that isn't the standalone version |
| 17:59:06 | <mccallumg> jordank: you mean you haven't been able to log into your development instance of openmrs? |
| 18:00:31 | <jordank> mccallumg: no sorry - I meant I never got the MVP dictionary to see what would happen to the form I made there |
| 18:02:43 | <mccallumg> jordank: let's talk about it. if you loaded the MVP dictionary as is now - it would blow away your concept table and the form would start referencing other concepts (unrelated to the form). it would end up complete nonsense. |
| 18:03:27 | <mccallumg> jordank: if you changed the MVP dictionary to just insert into existing table - you'd probably have primary key conflicts with your existing concepts... |
| 18:04:08 | <jordank> mccallumg: right. I'm looking at https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Strategy+for+having+local+and+CIEL-MVP+concept+dictionaries |
| 18:04:52 | <jordank> but idk if it says exactly |
| 18:07:03 | <mccallumg> jordank: yeah. sounds like they're talking around the same issues. but no concrete solution. |
| 18:08:23 | <mccallumg> jordank: but that page is pretty out-dated now. (last edited yesterday - created the day before) ;) |
| 18:09:56 | <jordank> mccallumg: haha okay :) |
| 18:11:06 | <mccallumg> so jordank . I wouldn't get to stuck on loading the MVP dictionary into your dev environment this week. It is more important to validate user needs. |
| 18:13:07 | <mccallumg> so jordank. How can we validate the user needs without building anything yet? |
| 18:14:32 | <jordank> mccallumg: confirm our hypothesis with the user on the ticket? |
| 18:15:12 | <mccallumg> jordank: yes. That's what I'm talking about. But how do we do that? |
| 18:16:19 | <jordank> mccallumg: comment on the ticket? |
| 18:16:48 | <mccallumg> jordank: and what would the comment say? |
| 18:21:50 | <jordank> mccallumg: whatever we think the ticket is asking for/ ask for confirmation about what we think is a possible solution |
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| 18:32:41 | <sgithens> djazayeri et all. Is the REST module stable/secure/prod-ready enough that I could likely successfully levy to have it installed on our prod system in another month or two? |
| 18:33:36 | <sgithens> I need to import some existing data into encounters/observations and am sort of looking through the spreadsheet import module, writing a groovy script that calls the services, using SQL, generating HL7s to through in the queue, or maybe using the REST module |
| 18:33:49 | <sgithens> s/through/throw/ |
| 18:34:18 | <mccallumg> jordank: we need to confirm our hypotheses about how they operate |
| 18:37:03 | <jordank> mccallumg: meaning we don't think they use the MVP dictionary yet? |
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| 18:39:24 | <mccallumg> jordank: that's one hypothesis |
| 18:39:50 | <mccallumg> jordank: there are more - about what dictionaries they are merging |
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| 18:40:36 | <jordank> mccallumg: the ticket also mentions cleaning duplicate concepts, but I'm not sure how they do that |
| 18:41:53 | <mccallumg> jordank: that's another hypothesis - so that is referring to maintaining a single concept dictionary (no merging dictionaries - just removing duplicates in a single concept dictionary). |
| 18:42:39 | <djazayeri> sgithens: in a month or two, es |
| 18:42:43 | <djazayeri> yes |
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| 18:45:26 | <jordank> mccallumg: same idea though right - if you're merging two dictionaries, you're going to end up with one that you want to delete duplicates from? |
| 18:45:37 | <mccallumg> jordank: right. they're related. |
| 18:46:18 | <jordank> mccallumg: ok.. why does it matter which dictionaries they want to use/ merge? |
| 18:47:20 | <mccallumg> jordank: doesn't necessarily - good point. we need a hypothesis about how they're sharing non-MVP dictionaries. |
| 18:51:35 | <mccallumg> jordank: so how bout you put all of the assumptions / hypotheses in an email, cc Janet, and we'll talk about how to test them. |
| 18:52:19 | <jordank> mccallumg: okay sounds good |
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| 19:03:20 | <djazayeri> downey: what's a link to the news feed that we're talking about? |
| 19:06:55 | <downey> djazayeri: don't have the link handy at the moment as i'm between meetings but i think it's the largely-defunct blog rss feed |
| 19:07:00 | <downey> largely-sparse that is |
| 19:07:35 | <djazayeri> downey: meaning it would show up in the OpenMRS blog? Or that it would show up in an aggregated rss feed? |
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| 19:08:52 | <cpower> hello everyone! |
| 19:09:24 | <mvorobey> cpower, hi |
| 19:09:43 | <cpower> Are we ready to Scrum or did you guys already do it without me? |
| 19:10:20 | <mvorobey> cpower, it seems that no we did not :) |
| 19:10:36 | <cpower> well then....leeeeet's do it! |
| 19:10:44 | <cpower> !scrumon cpower |
| 19:10:44 | * OpenMRSBot says the DAILY SCRUM MEETING is STARTING. This meeting should not last longer than 15 minutes. Please hold other comments until the end of the meeting, or message someone privately. Thank you! ScrumMaster cpower- you may begin when ready. |
| 19:11:32 | <cpower> Order: djazayeri, downey, dkayiwa, mvorobey (if he wants) and wyclif! |
| 19:12:18 | <dkayiwa> downey: does not scrum :) |
| 19:12:38 | <cpower> he could still tell us what he's been doing... |
| 19:12:47 | <mvorobey> cpower, he wants, he said me :) |
| 19:12:49 | <dkayiwa> mvorobey: am sure he has done something :) |
| 19:12:55 | <djazayeri> My report |
| 19:12:56 | <djazayeri> Wednesday 30-May-2012 |
| 19:12:56 | <djazayeri> * University call |
| 19:12:56 | <djazayeri> * call with Thoughtworks |
| 19:12:56 | <djazayeri> * Design call |
| 19:12:56 | <djazayeri> * Project Management call |
| 19:12:56 | <djazayeri> * Call with Kiran |
| 19:12:56 | <djazayeri> * Call with Merk Dev |
| 19:12:57 | <djazayeri> * hoped to get a bit of coding done outside those calls, but didnât |
| 19:12:59 | <djazayeri> Today |
| 19:13:01 | <djazayeri> * Dev call |
| 19:13:05 | <djazayeri> * Leadership call |
| 19:13:09 | <djazayeri> * ITECH work |
| 19:13:11 | <djazayeri> no blockers |
| 19:13:24 | <dkayiwa> djazayeri: you are soon dying of calls :D |
| 19:13:35 | <wyclif> he he he |
| 19:14:01 | <cpower> I know the feeling... |
| 19:14:21 | <cpower> dkayiwa..go for it |
| 19:14:41 | <dkayiwa> Reviewed and tested: Improve the page a user sees when they fail a privilege check - TRUNK-3354 |
| 19:14:41 | <dkayiwa> Reviewed, applied patch and tested: Should be able to define a privilege required to view or edit an encounter - TRUNK-3377 |
| 19:14:41 | <dkayiwa> Reviewed: Create wiki documentation for PrivilegeListener - TRUNK-3389 |
| 19:14:41 | <dkayiwa> Reviewed: Add encounter type privilege wiki documentation - TRUNK-3392 |
| 19:14:43 | <dkayiwa> Committed uuid fields for TRUNK-3373 and TRUNK-3369 |
| 19:14:43 | <dkayiwa> Created new tickets: Document the new dashboard overview tab application privileges - TRUNK-3394 and Document the new API-level privileges - TRUNK-3395 |
| 19:14:43 | <dkayiwa> Dev Call |
| 19:14:43 | <dkayiwa> Now working on Ben's comment for: Create new dashboard overview tab application privileges - TRUNK-3368 |
| 19:14:43 | <dkayiwa> No Blockers |
| 19:14:58 | <cpower> Next... |
| 19:15:00 | <mvorobey> Completed (prepared for committing) - CSTM-2 |
| 19:15:00 | <mvorobey> Finished (after number of re-workings)- TRUNK-3377 |
| 19:15:00 | <mvorobey> Attend today dev call |
| 19:15:00 | <mvorobey> No blockers |
| 19:15:26 | <dkayiwa> mvorobey: hahaha :) |
| 19:15:34 | <cpower> wyclif! |
| 19:15:50 | <wyclif> Wednesday: |
| 19:15:50 | <wyclif> * TRUNK-3389 - Create wiki documentation for PrivilegeListener |
| 19:15:50 | <wyclif> * TRUNK-3392 - Add encounter type privilege wiki documentation |
| 19:15:50 | <wyclif> * Design call |
| 19:15:50 | <wyclif> * Create Gsoc module Project in jira and going through error logging tickets |
| 19:15:50 | <wyclif> Thursday: |
| 19:15:52 | <wyclif> * Review TODOs for TRUNK-3354 - Improve the page a user sees when they fail a privilege check |
| 19:15:56 | <wyclif> * dev call |
| 19:15:58 | <wyclif> * Went through the order entry tickets to pick those to include in the clean up sprint |
| 19:16:00 | <wyclif> * TRUNK-3343 - Create liquibase changeset to insert the new application level privileges for each corresponding api level privilege |
| 19:16:03 | <wyclif> * pick another sprint ticket |
| 19:16:05 | <wyclif> Blockers: None |
| 19:16:27 | <cpower> Anyone else have anything they would like to comment on? |
| 19:16:36 | <mvorobey> dkayiwa, but I think it was the best patch all over OpenMRS during this week :) |
| 19:16:47 | <cpower> Summary: No discussion points, no blockers |
| 19:16:58 | <dkayiwa> mvorobey: hahahaha. for sure :D |
| 19:17:02 | <cpower> !scrumoff |
| 19:17:02 | * OpenMRSBot says the DAILY SCRUM MEETING has ENDED. This channel is now returned to normal hacking operations. Post-scrum meeting follow-up conversations may now begin. |
| 19:17:17 | <mvorobey> cpower : no man, no problems :D |
| 19:17:31 | <cpower> So is Rodger on IRC? |
| 19:18:02 | * downey didn't get picked to scrum :( |
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| 19:18:08 | <downey> i wrote up a report and everything :P |
| 19:18:22 | <dkayiwa> downey: oh sorry :( |
| 19:18:26 | <cpower> Go ahead downey...I put you on the list, you just didn't go |
| 19:18:40 | <downey> Yesterday: Finalized OSCON attendance & (lack of) booth presence, mini birthday party for docpaul, orientation for summer intern nicoleb, catch up on email over long weekend & illness, GSoC reports |
| 19:18:40 | <downey> Today: Developer meeting, team lunch, leadership team meeting, OMRS12 scholarship announcement writing, XSEDE prep work |
| 19:18:41 | <downey> No blockers, although we're about 1.5 weeks behind on hardware upgrades due to late delivery. |
| 19:19:02 | <downey> Also we have 2 more summer interns starting next week |
| 19:20:05 | <cpower> So when do we worry about the Hardware not being where it should be? |
| 19:20:34 | <downey> things are moving as best i understand, just pushed back a bit. i'll try to make up the time over the next couple weeks once i get done playing HR geek |
| 19:21:55 | <cpower> lol |
| 19:22:46 | <cpower> back to my orginal is Roger on IRC or does he just use the lists? |
| 19:23:31 | <downey> he's usually on as r_friedman |
| 19:23:47 | <downey> but seems to be more in the mornings, Atlanta time |
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| 19:24:21 | <cpower> fair enough, thanks for the info! |
| 19:24:24 | <downey> Hi yansuck and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
| 19:24:30 | <yansuck> Hi downey! |
| 19:24:46 | <yansuck> I am wondering is there a forum for openMRS people? |
| 19:25:00 | <cpower> you are in it |
| 19:25:30 | <downey> indeed, this is the real-time one ⦠there are also some other resources available, too |
| 19:25:40 | <yansuck> oh ok, I just think that a forum might be better at documenting this haha. |
| 19:25:42 | <yansuck> Great! :D |
| 19:25:52 | <downey> yansuck: see also https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/RES/Mailing+Lists |
| 19:25:53 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8ZWD> (at wiki.openmrs.org) |
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| 19:26:07 | <bwolfe> wyclif, did kreddy say that the label for next week is "cleanup_sprint" ? |
| 19:26:10 | <downey> yansuck: and https://answers.openmrs.org/ |
| 19:26:22 | <yansuck> wow thank you! |
| 19:26:39 | <yansuck> You are very helpful : ) |
| 19:27:00 | <cpower> yansuck, downey is right there are a lot of places to find information. Just ask here and we can direct to the best place or look around in the links provided. |
| 19:28:43 | <yansuck> ok I will. Thank you |
| 19:28:48 | <yansuck> I have a quick question right now |
| 19:28:55 | <bwolfe> I find all my information on ta goog. that, and downey. |
| 19:28:58 | <wyclif> bwolfe, i added that just to track order entry tickets to be worked on in the sprint, i will add that of the sprint too |
| 19:29:17 | <wyclif> bwolfe, it is helpful to me |
| 19:29:38 | <bwolfe> ok |
| 19:30:59 | <yansuck> When I open the openMRS source file in eclipse, there's a lot of errors in term of importing. Seems like openmrs is importing a lots of module that my computer doesn't have, such as org.apache.* |
| 19:31:41 | <yansuck> I am wondering what can i do about this? Should I download those packages from their websites? |
| 19:32:23 | <downey> bwolfe: my girlfriend once called me her personal google |
| 19:33:02 | <bwolfe> yansuck, when you import into eclipse it starts building openmrs via maven |
| 19:33:09 | <bwolfe> maven should be downloading all those packages now |
| 19:33:19 | <bwolfe> if you have maven in "offline mode" it will tell you it can't find them |
| 19:33:40 | <bwolfe> put it in online mode to let maven do its magic and find+download all of those for you |
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| 19:35:36 | <yansuck> Thank you bwolfe but I don't think I have maven in my eclipse |
| 19:36:01 | <yansuck> I will look into it, if putting maven online would solve this problem, I will go ahead and add maven to my eclipse then |
| 19:36:03 | <yansuck> Thank you |
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| 19:48:24 | <yansuck> Hi @bwolfe, I have installed maven in my eclipse but how can I make it get those repositories? |
| 19:49:09 | <maurya> djazayeri, regarding htmlformentry, can we store the elements in the database directly even if the elements are not registered? |
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| 19:52:06 | <djazayeri> maurya: what elements? |
| 19:52:50 | <maurya> like if i generate some elemnts dynamically... |
| 19:53:02 | <maurya> observations |
| 19:53:12 | <maurya> which are not registered earlier.. |
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| 19:54:20 | <djazayeri> maurya: "registering" in HTML Form Entry is a convenience mechanism |
| 19:54:40 | <djazayeri> it lets the widgets know what form field name they're going to have |
| 19:55:51 | <djazayeri> maurya: if a widget knows that its form field name is going to be "w18", it can submit "w18[0]", "w18[1]", etc, or anything really, as long as it knows how to process the submission |
| 19:56:34 | <maurya> okay.. |
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| 20:12:09 | <mvorobey> .йгÑе |
| 20:12:29 | <mvorobey> .йгÑе = /quit |
| 20:12:37 | <mvorobey> :D |
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| 20:14:09 | <downey> unicode++ |
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| 20:52:23 | <suranga> hi dkayiwa have you got time for a question ? I just re-created my database.. now I dont know my password / usr name to log in |
| 20:52:39 | <suranga> dkayiwa, can I get these from the *.properties file ? :) |
| 20:55:02 | <dkayiwa> suranga: no :) |
| 20:55:12 | <suranga> dkayiwa, :( |
| 20:55:12 | <dkayiwa> suranga: get it from the database :) |
| 20:55:29 | <suranga> dkayiwa, umm.. its encrypted :( |
| 20:55:44 | <dkayiwa> suranga: overwrite it :) |
| 20:55:57 | <dkayiwa> suranga: using one for a known password :) |
| 20:56:13 | <suranga> dkayiwa, do i need to replace the salt too ? |
| 20:56:19 | <dkayiwa> suranga: yes |
| 20:56:35 | <suranga> that also I need to get a known salt , is it ? |
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| 20:59:11 | <downey> http://knownsalt.jpg.to/ |
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| 21:17:25 | <szrrizvi> Hey bwolfe and djazayeri, thanks for all the help yeterday. I fixed my issue, but I still have one question. Why don't the service layer methods (such as saveRole and savePrivilege) have the @Transactional annotation? |
| 21:18:51 | <cpower> bwolfe, did you ever help yansuck with his Maven issue? |
| 21:20:45 | <bwolfe> szrrizvi, ah, so the problem was @Transactional? |
| 21:20:56 | <bwolfe> szrrizvi, cause I didn't see a prob with your mapping. |
| 21:21:09 | <bwolfe> cpower, maybe? I dunno. what was the final question? |
| 21:21:23 | <bwolfe> szrrizvi, the interface has the @Transactional annotation and htat cascades to the methods |
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| 21:23:16 | <djazayeri> szrrizvi: by the way, the fact that we have an @Transactional annotation on the interface that cascades to all the methods is actually bad style, we now know. It's better to explicitly annotate only the transactional methods (but you have to make sure not to forget) |
| 21:23:43 | <szrrizvi> bwolfe: Yes, when I removed the @Transactional annotion from the methods, it worked fine. |
| 21:25:10 | <szrrizvi> For most cases, I am seeing that the annotation is both on the interface as well as the methods. Just for the methods regarding Role and Privilege objects, there is no annotation. |
| 21:25:46 | <bwolfe> if you have @Transactional(readOnly=true) on a method it will not persist |
| 21:25:53 | <bwolfe> that is the only place in core we put it on methods |
| 21:26:02 | <bwolfe> otherwise we just do the @Transactional on the interface |
| 21:27:53 | <szrrizvi> Oh okay. I haven't studied these things formally, just learning as I go along. All that I know about Hibernate, Spring, JSP, and MySQL I've learnt from reading OpenMRS code and documentation. |
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| 21:33:26 | <szrrizvi> Oh, and I wanted to ask; I am a student at University of Calgary, and my professor and I have been working on an access control model that uses relationship for authorization. For example, a patient can only view his/her own file and not the files of other patients. Once we have a prototype, would you guys be interested in hearing more about it? |
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| 21:34:36 | <djazayeri> szrrizvi: definitely we'd be interested in hearing more, seeing a demo, seeing a presentation on our dev call, etc. |
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| 21:37:22 | <szrrizvi> djazayeri: Thank you, my professor will be very happy to hear that. And of course this model works with doctor/patient level. Ex. A doctor can only view files of his/her own patients, or has some sort of referral. |
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