IRC Chat : 2011-10-20 - OpenMRS

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07:04:35 <upul`> bwolfe do you know about nook free fridays?
07:07:18 <bwolfe> upul`, I saw it once
07:07:21 <bwolfe> is there a page for it?
07:08:45 <upul`> bwolfe: yes there was a blog with the category, http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/t5/The-NOOK-Blog/bg-p/Unbound/label-name/Free%20Fridays
07:08:50 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/9ElR> (at bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com)
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09:31:45 <mnunez> Good morning!
09:32:28 <dkayiwa> morning
09:33:53 <mnunez> Hi there dkayiwa! How's your connection doing?
09:34:42 <dkayiwa> doing well today :)
09:35:43 <mnunez> dkayiwa: Mind if we go back to yesterday's XForm question?
09:35:55 <dkayiwa> no i do not mind
09:36:58 <mnunez> dkayiwa: Great, thanks! So, how would you suggest concepts on an XForm repeat box?
09:37:16 <dkayiwa> like i told you yesterday
09:37:24 <mnunez> dkayiwa: I did the ConvSet as you said
09:38:23 <mnunez> dkayiwa: I guess your connection timed out before I got the answer... :(
09:39:02 <mnunez> I just got the "leave the coded concept without answers" part
09:40:46 <dkayiwa> ok
09:45:13 <mnunez> That would only get me a blank text box on the XForm for the coded concept. How do I use it to store finding class concepts, for example?
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09:50:04 <mnunez> dkayiwa
10:11:22 <dkayiwa> mnunez: yes that is correct, then select that text box on the design surface
10:11:32 <dkayiwa> mnunez: and set its external source property
10:12:00 <mnunez> dkayiwa: to concept_name?
10:12:15 <mnunez> dkayiwa: I think I've got it. External source: concept_name
10:12:30 <mnunez> value=concept_id
10:12:43 <mnunez> display value=name
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10:14:10 <mnunez> dkayiwa: That works. That lists all concepts, but regardless their class
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10:15:17 <dkayiwa> mnunez: did you set the filter field?
10:16:30 <mnunez> dkayiwa: No. What field would I filter anyways? concept_name table does not have a concept_class column
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10:20:00 <dkayiwa> mnunez: set exteranl source to: select cn.name, cn.concept_id from concept_name cn inner join concept c on cn.concept_id=cn.concept_id
10:20:01 <dkayiwa> where c.class_id=4
10:21:59 <mnunez> dkayiwa: Ha! I was trying select concept.concept_id, concept.class_id, concept_name.concept_id, concept_name.name from concept, concept_name where concept.concept_id=concept_name.concept_id;
10:25:42 <Boby> Anybody know pass and username to access page: dev.emeka.ca:8080/openmr
10:25:54 <Boby> Please help me
10:26:10 <Boby> Please, Please :(
10:26:14 <dkayiwa> Boby: is that your server?
10:26:30 <Boby> No
10:26:43 <dkayiwa> you want to hack into it Boby ? :)
10:28:16 <Boby> I just want web server to up Open MRS and then test with device android
10:28:38 <dkayiwa> try the openmrs demo
10:29:13 <dkayiwa> http://demo.openmrs.org/openmrs
10:30:07 <bwolfe> Boby, default username is "admin" and the password at install is usually "test" or "Admin123"
10:30:12 <dkayiwa> Boby: by the way you can even connect to a local instance on your computer
10:30:34 <mnunez> dkayiwa: Works! Do you mind if I create an Examples page in the XForm documentation to add these kind of stuff?
10:30:59 <dkayiwa> mnunez: that is so so so sweet of you!!!!!! :)
10:31:16 <dkayiwa> mnunez: if all users were volunteering to do like you, i would fix more bugs :)
10:32:02 <mnunez> dkayiwa: It's not just about bugs. This kind of stuff is a really common case of use, don't you think?
10:32:09 <dkayiwa> Boby: openmrs demo username=admin password=test
10:32:16 <Boby> But with http://demo.openmrs.org/openmrs I can't add module
10:32:31 <dkayiwa> mnunez: yes you are correct
10:32:44 <dkayiwa> Boby: which module did you want to install?
10:33:06 <Boby> just my module
10:33:36 <dkayiwa> Boby: how about creating a local openmrs instance on your computer and then you connect to it from your android phone?
10:34:45 <Boby> I just use web service
10:35:08 <dkayiwa> Boby: yes you can have the web service running on your computer
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10:36:32 <pascal`> bwolfe++
10:36:39 <Boby> dkayiwa, you can see it http://rwinkwavu.cs.washington.edu:8080/openmrs
10:36:50 <Boby> With it I can add module
10:37:14 <Boby> But not module Cohort Builder to connect android
10:37:41 <dkayiwa> Boby: that is because Yaw enabled web based module upload. which is not the case for the openmrs demo server
10:38:14 <dkayiwa> Boby: isnt Yaw's server enough for you?
10:38:53 <Boby> Do you know any server similar dkayiwa?
10:38:59 <Boby> Can you help me ?
10:39:28 <dkayiwa> Boby: the other servers i know are not for public access
10:39:48 <dkayiwa> Boby: am still asking, why do you need more than one server?
10:41:53 <Boby> I have client run android CLINIC download from Yaw's and now I just try to test it with server Open MRS
10:42:55 <Boby> But I think, it does not have module Cohort Builder
10:43:10 <dkayiwa> Boby: if it works on Yaw's it will work on others
10:43:33 <dkayiwa> Boby: the only other option am aware of is for you to set up a local instance on your computer
10:44:24 <Boby> Do you know link svn to check out module Cohort Builder ?
10:44:31 <Boby> Can you share me ?
10:45:27 <dkayiwa> Boby: i think it is: http://svn.openmrs.org/openmrs-modules/reportingcompatibility/
10:45:27 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5Tpt> (at svn.openmrs.org)
10:47:11 <Boby> with http://ln-s.net/5Tpt
10:47:27 <Boby> What URL to enter ?
10:47:37 <dkayiwa> http://svn.openmrs.org/openmrs-modules/reportingcompatibility/
10:47:38 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5Tpt> (at svn.openmrs.org)
10:47:56 <dkayiwa> Boby: ignore the openmrsbot
10:48:04 <dkayiwa> :)
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10:51:42 <Boby> Ok thanks so much
10:51:55 <Boby> Let me check out and try to build it
10:52:14 <dkayiwa> ok
10:55:20 <pascal`> bwolfe, what's the link to the omrs book?
10:55:44 <bwolfe> www.booki.cc/openmrs
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10:56:27 <pascal`> thx
11:00:12 <bwolfe> a lot of it is stuff from the wiki
11:00:20 <bwolfe> but put together nicely so that people can read/find it
11:00:22 <pascal`> bwolfe, yeah, looks good though
11:01:32 <surangak_> going offline for a while guys, something just came up :-(
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11:34:45 <pascal`> bwolfe, occ server references a file called updates.sql in the README. Should it be obvious where it's located? (=
11:35:29 <bwolfe> the resources folder
11:38:14 <pascal`> bwolfe, yeah, that is the obvious location
11:38:31 <bwolfe> find it?
11:38:38 <bwolfe> pascal`, control-shift-r is your friend in eclipse
11:40:10 <pascal`> bwolfe, it was deleted in revision 19108
11:40:24 <pascal`> bwolfe, I'll find out what's up from ryan
11:40:26 <bwolfe> odd
11:41:58 <pascal`> I'm guessing he just forgot to update the README
12:15:13 <bwolfe> dkayiwa, the dev call today is about a 1.9 update. do you have things to say?
12:15:24 <dkayiwa> ok
12:15:29 <dkayiwa> not at the moment
12:15:59 <bwolfe> dkayiwa, ok, in the next 1.5 hours will you come up with something? :-)
12:16:06 <bwolfe> e.g.: how many tickets are left
12:16:18 <bwolfe> your prediction for when the alpha can be released
12:16:27 <bwolfe> whether we need to take out any more features
12:16:29 <bwolfe> etc etc
12:16:34 <dkayiwa> bwolfe: ok will try to think through that
12:18:23 <bwolfe> dkayiwa, https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/RES/2011-10-20+Developers+Forum
12:18:28 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/9En9> (at wiki.openmrs.org)
12:18:45 <dkayiwa> ok
12:19:23 <bwolfe> thanks!
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14:07:08 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: On Twitter: OpenMRS: RT @bawolfe: I'm really excited by what has been done with the @OpenMRS book already! Lots of great info to help folks get started! <http://twitter.com/OpenMRS/statuses/127017506366955520>
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16:39:09 <jafaeldon> does anyone know how to "reset" openmrs to the installation phase?
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16:39:47 <jafaeldon> i like to go back and do the installation process again
16:40:35 <dkayiwa> jafaeldon: so you do not want to preserve your existing database data?
16:40:54 <jafaeldon> no i want to start from scratch
16:41:29 <dkayiwa> jafaeldon: stop tomcat, then delete the database and the runtime properties file
16:41:36 <jafaeldon> i tried to delete the db already but when i run the webapp, it tries to use the old connection
16:41:51 <jafaeldon> which runtime properties file?
16:42:11 <dkayiwa> jafaeldon: the one used by the webapp to get database connection settings
16:42:42 <dkayiwa> jafaeldon: you can look in the tomcat logs to see its location
16:44:50 <jafaeldon> im working with the source code and using maven jetty:run. I tried to delete the project and download again from svn repo. but it didn't reset
16:45:59 <dkayiwa> jafaeldon: https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Overriding+OpenMRS+Default+Runtime+Properties
16:46:00 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8c91> (at wiki.openmrs.org)
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16:50:38 <jafaeldon> found it, thanks!
16:50:46 <dkayiwa> good
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17:31:20 <Suranga> good morning james_regen :-)
17:31:24 <Suranga> r u there ?
17:31:40 <james_regen> Suranga: hi, i'm here
17:32:09 <Suranga> james_regen, I finally understood yesterdays conversation after going though the logs again :-)
17:32:19 <Suranga> today i did as follows -
17:32:51 <Suranga> 1. re wrote the analyzer class so that MutualInformationAnalyzer extends FrequencyAnalyzer
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17:34:46 <Suranga> james_regen, sorry, got disconnected...
17:35:07 <Suranga> james_regen, , now I can do really basic (john,M) etc. calculations...
17:35:07 <james_regen> Suranga: that's ok. i saw number 1 of what you did
17:35:32 <james_regen> Suranga: so you have code to count the frequency of the combinations of values?
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17:36:53 <Suranga> james_regen, yep, I rough draft is working
17:36:53 <Suranga> (not very nice code)
17:36:54 <Suranga> since you r going on holiday, I thought I'll go ahead in super speed, and clean up my code between the 24 - 28 :-)
17:36:54 <Suranga> james_regen, would u like to look at the new classes ?
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17:38:43 <Suranga> james_regen, you earlier said "Suranga: that's ok. i saw number 1 of what you did"
17:38:43 <james_regen> sure
17:38:57 <Suranga> james_regen, Im not sure what u ment by that...
17:39:16 <james_regen> Suranga: i saw: 1. re wrote the analyzer class so that MutualInformationAnalyzer extends FrequencyAnalyzer
17:39:38 <james_regen> that was the last message before you got disconnected.
17:39:44 <Suranga> oh, sorry
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17:39:55 <Suranga> Suranga> 2. moved the code that does pairwise combination generation into constrcutor
17:39:55 <Suranga> <Suranga> 3. wrote the analyzeData() and finishAnalysis() methods
17:40:10 <Suranga> james_regen, I did no. 2 and 3 too
17:40:54 <Suranga> james_regen, the analyzer class is at http://pastebin.com/n8JdN7bf
17:40:56 <james_regen> Suranga: oh, ok that's good news. sounds like things are making sense
17:41:22 <Suranga> james_regen, yep, I finally understood what u ment :P
17:42:34 <Suranga> james_regen, the calculate method in the analysispanel class
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17:50:22 <Suranga> james_regen, terrible sorry, got cut off again ( really bad weather over here :-(
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17:50:46 <Suranga> james_regen, the last I saw from you was :<james_regen> Suranga: oh, ok that's good news. sounds like things are making sense
17:50:54 <james_regen> Suranga: that's ok, it gave me time to look at the code. i have a question about how you're storing the combinatinos of values
17:51:29 <Suranga> james_regen, sure
17:52:02 <Suranga> mccallumg, hi Glen, so hows the doc camp ? :-)
17:52:29 <mccallumg> hi Suranga . Today it is a little stressful. We're under the gun - so to speak.
17:52:53 <james_regen> Suranga: the key you're using are the two values concatenated, and they're being stored in a hashmap. are all the values for different combinations stored in that same map?
17:53:10 <Suranga> mccallumg, I saw the boook online, they have been working u really haaard :-)
17:53:33 <Suranga> james_regen, no, not all the values
17:53:42 <Suranga> james_regen, only values that really exist
17:53:52 <Suranga> james_regen, let me look for an example
17:54:11 <james_regen> Suranga: i'm wondering if the same value exists in two different fields, like blank values, if the entry for both will be the same
17:55:22 <Suranga> james_regen, umm, yes, but in that case, we set the count to 2
17:55:30 <Suranga> for example, John, male = 2
17:55:30 <james_regen> like if a record is first_name=john last_name=john gender=male if after counting the frequencies, you'd end up with (john,john)=1, (john,male)=2
17:56:15 <james_regen> Suranga: i think we've been talking too much using similar examples if we can write the same thing at the same time
17:56:52 <Suranga> james_regen, Im not sure how u will get (john,male)=2
17:57:07 <Suranga> your last comment was not very clear, Im afraid...
17:58:02 <james_regen> Suranga: when looking at the mutual information between first_name and gender and last_name and gender, if we're looking at all possible pairs of columns
17:58:43 <Suranga> james_regen, mmm... Dr. Shaun said only existing pairs of columns
17:58:48 <Suranga> james_regen, for example
17:59:07 <Suranga> 1|john|M|10
17:59:19 <Suranga> 2|max|M|20
17:59:24 <Suranga> 3|max|F|30
17:59:36 <Suranga> with these records, John,F is not possible
17:59:52 <Suranga> only John,M Max,M and max,F
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18:01:57 <james_regen> Suranga: i think another way of what i'm thinking is i'm wondering if the key to the hashmap, a+b, is unique enough to be specific to one column pair, and if that matters
18:02:30 <Suranga> james_regen, please give me a minute
18:02:34 <Suranga> to check that
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18:04:37 <Suranga> james_regen, I see what u mean
18:04:53 <Suranga> each of those values are set into a Column pair object
18:06:36 <Suranga> so if there were cases such as fname=john,lname=john and nickname=john
18:06:36 <Suranga> it would be calculated as two different pairs (john,john) =1 and (john,john)=1
18:06:37 <Suranga> the (a+b) will calculate the number of similar tokens per each ColumnPair only..
18:07:41 <james_regen> Suranga: ok, i didn't notice where the hashmap was associated with each ColumnPair object
18:07:55 <Suranga> james_regen, the code is reeeely ugly...
18:08:16 <Suranga> in fact, i need to do some serious testin on it
18:08:42 <Suranga> james_regen, oh, by the way, I have commit permissions, I commited that lowercase change to Record.java
18:09:03 <james_regen> Suranga: i was about ot ask if you had been able to test it at all. i was also about to ask if you could commit code
18:09:17 <Suranga> james_regen, :-)
18:09:48 <Suranga> james_regen, let me do this, tomorrow, Ill write some basic sample data, and show you the retreived outputs...
18:10:11 <james_regen> ok
18:10:23 <Suranga> james_regen, once thats done, I also need to expand the code so that I can evaluate multiple blocking columns
18:10:31 <Suranga> james_regen, thats not supported yet
18:15:55 <Suranga> james_regen, r u familiar with Math.Log() ? I have a teenly question on that, if you're free...
18:16:35 <james_regen> Suranga: i think i've used it before
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18:23:31 <Suranga_> james_regen, assume I need to calculate Ep(log2p) using math.log
18:23:43 <Suranga_> (lets assume that p = 0.2
18:24:19 <Suranga_> james_regen, so that would be 0.2(log 2+0.2) would it ?
18:25:30 <james_regen> Suranga_: is that log2p log(2) base 2, or is it log(2p) ?
18:26:27 <Suranga_> james_regen, the number 2 is printed small, so I assume its log(2) base 2
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18:30:05 <james_regen> Suranga_: Math.log uses a base of e, and the other log function, Math.log10, uses base 10. i can't remember how to convert bases, isn't it a division? what's the Ep before the log part?
18:30:29 <Suranga_> james_regen, E is the summation symbol
18:30:55 <james_regen> oh, ok, i didn't look close enough
18:31:44 <Suranga_> james_regen, Σp(log2 P) :-)
18:31:54 <Suranga_> james_regen, I think u r right about the division thing
18:32:02 <Suranga_> james_regen, I was reading up some on it..
18:32:26 <james_regen> i've had to do it in other code, but it was a while ago, and that part of school was several years before that
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18:34:27 <Suranga_> james_regen, dont worry about it, I'll check it out
18:34:46 <Suranga_> james_regen, i'll report back tomorrow on progress :P
18:36:14 <james_regen> Suranga_: ok
18:37:38 <Suranga_> james_regen, after tomorrow, i'l be seeing u on the 29th, right ?
18:38:15 <james_regen> Suranga_: i'll be back from vacation, but not on IRC. i'll be at work again the 31st
18:38:33 <Suranga_> james_regen, oh, I seee
18:38:55 <Suranga_> james_regen, no problem, Ill try to spend that time being useful :-)
18:39:45 <Suranga_> james_regen, thanks for all the help you've given
18:40:15 <james_regen> Suranga_: it's not a problem, it's good to have help with the code
18:41:18 <Suranga_> james_regen, hopefully this project will be a sucess :-)
18:49:15 <downeym> Suranga_: Glen is here, and thanks you for the shirt :)
18:49:41 <Suranga_> downeym, I hope the shirt was not too horrible looking :-)
18:50:13 <Suranga_> downeym, It looks better after being washed once (as my brother in law just found out :-)
18:52:00 <mccallumg> Suranga: yes. thanks so much for the shirt! it is great.
18:52:56 <Suranga_> mccallumg, next time I will give Sri lankan chocolates ! :p
18:53:15 <downeym> Suranga_: if you are a mentor next year maybe you can come to the mentor summit
18:54:31 <Suranga_> downeym, I'd love to be a mentor, irrespective of wether I get to come to the summit or not. but dont know if they'll let me :-(
18:54:45 <Suranga_> going offline for a while guys, I'll be back soon :)
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