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<irfn> i am using openmrs-api jar and figured that even api jar loads up logic omod
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<djazayeri> irfn: logic is a "core module". it is effectively included in the openmrs core
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<irfn> djazayeri: sure that is fine
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<irfn> but is there an alternate way of using logic jar dependency
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<bwolfe> boo
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<bwolfe> https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Core+Modules
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<irfn> hehe
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<irfn> sure
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<bwolfe> !learn coremodules as https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Core+Modules
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/9Dc7> (at wiki.openmrs.org)
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<downeym> sunbiz: you around? :)
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<irfn> djazayeri: what i mean is that my web-application that uses openmrs-api is not running on same machine as openmrs
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<irfn> and i do not have access to a ~/OpenMrs etc
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<irfn> i had to set APPLICATION_DATA_DIRECTORY_RUNTIME_PROPERTY
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<irfn> in tests i seem to be able to get the api running
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<irfn> but within a spring app i am getting Caused by: java.io.FileNotFoundException: class path resource [TokenRegistration.hbm.xml] c
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<irfn> which seems to be inside logic omod
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<bwolfe> irfn, the logic omod might not be starting up correctly
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<irfn> bwolfe: i have seen this
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<bwolfe> I think someone mentioned this on the dev list at some point...but I'm not sure if they also found a solution
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<irfn> bwolfe: when would logic omod not start correctlt
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<bwolfe> irfn, tables not there, spring failing, etc
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<irfn> hmm
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<irfn> in my case basic cause of error is Caused by: java.io.FileNotFoundException: for the hbm files
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<irfn> now i have set the APPLICATION_DATA_DIRECTORY_RUNTIME_PROPERTY
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<irfn> and that directory has modules/logic-0.5.omod
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<irfn> i also see log like openmrs-data/logic/class' doesn't exist. Creating directories now.
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<irfn> none
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<bwolfe> odd
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<irfn> infact logger.warn(format("loaded %d modules", ModuleFactory.getLoadedModules().size())); prints
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<irfn> loaded 1 modules
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<irfn> rt after that i see ERROR [org.springframework.web.servlet.DispatcherServlet] - Context initialization failed
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<bwolfe> whats your setup again? api on one machine but openmrs on another? Can you just put an omod on the other machine for hte api to use?
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<Joaquin_> thanks Mike!
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<irfn> i have
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<irfn> bwolfe: i have
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<irfn> and i have specified the folder via APPLICATION_DATA_DIRECTORY_RUNTIME_PROPERTY
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<irfn> since i donot own ~
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<Joaquin_> has anyone used JMeter before? I was hopoing to find saptarshi here, but I don't see him
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<bwolfe> Joaquin_, sunbiz == saptarshi
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<Joaquin_> ah, ok, good to know
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<bwolfe> (but seems to be afk)
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<Joaquin_> bwolfe: and learning to do this better
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<Joaquin_> bwolfe: ok, will wait for him to get back :D
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<Joaquin_> downeym: I figured out the database messaging module, it's not as flexible as I thought
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<Joaquin_> downeym: but it does work, unfortunately there's no "show me which messages aren't in this language" button
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<Joaquin_> downeym: you have to type one by one the message you want to see
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<downeym> hey sunbiz :)
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<sunbiz> longish lunch
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<Joaquin_> sunbiz: hey, was hoping to see you here
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<sunbiz> hey Joaquin_
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<sunbiz> Im here...
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<sunbiz> u mean in Rwanda??
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<Joaquin_> yeah, at the OMRS conference
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<sunbiz> hmmm... I see u have a question about JMeter
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<Joaquin_> sunbiz: yeah, two questions in fact
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<sunbiz> Joaquin_: yes, missed it this time... communication things
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<sunbiz> please ask
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<Joaquin_> one is if you know if JMeter can do javascript submissions and if you know how you can do recording in JMeter of a task you do and have it reproduce it
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<Joaquin_> I've done a little bit of searching and haven't found anything that useful
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<Joaquin_> on either front
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<sunbiz> yes, u can write JMeter scripts
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<sunbiz> but its just URL calls
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<irfn> Joaquin_: you can simulate the scenario
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<Joaquin_> is there a page you know that shows how to do it? I've been using http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/build-web-test-plan.html
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/9DcG> (at jakarta.apache.org)
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<sunbiz> Joaquin_: yes, that link looks right
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<Joaquin_> right, but there I don't see how to do either javascript submission for xforms or how to record what I do
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<Joaquin_> better said, I havne't seen the javascript submission, just saw the recording instructions pdf
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<sunbiz> Joaquin_: its not supposed to run JavaScript
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<sunbiz> its just to call URLs
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<Joaquin_> downeym: bwolfe: wanted to ask you if you or ben have a 3g connection I can use, 'cause right now I'm mooching off of Jembi and they have a limtied data plan...
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<sunbiz> Joaquin_: although I just saw this: http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/functions.html
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<Joaquin_> sunbiz: yeah, that's exactly why I was asking because xforms works on javascript
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<downeym> Hi duali and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel.
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<sunbiz> 19.5.7 __javaScript - this sections talks about executing JavaScript
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<sunbiz> but it does not interpret the JavaScript from pages
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<Joaquin_> sunbiz: ok, I'll take a look at that and then see if I can dkayiwa help me :-)
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<bwolfe> Joaquin_, #omrs11
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<rafa> djazayeri: hey
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<bwolfe> rafa! when do you start your travels?
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<rafa> djazayeri: are you still working on attributes?
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<rafa> bwolfe: on saturday :D
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<bwolfe> ah ok, so you're getting CA just on time then, not early
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<rafa> bwolfe: yeah pretty much
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<rafa> bwolfe: but I've got one night in chicago :D
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<djazayeri> rafa: yes, still working on attributes
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<djazayeri> i just closed that ticket
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<rafa> djazayeri: cool, so I won't be trying to fix the visit form.
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<djazayeri> you have to drop some tables and maybe delete changesets
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<downeym> Hi Joaquin__ and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel.
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<Joaquin__> sunbiz: cool, I will try that
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<Joaquin__> sunbiz: the other questions I had were about the database messaging module
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<sunbiz> Joaquin_ u r welcome
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<Joaquin__> sunbiz: is there any way to have it spit out all of the messages that aren't translated to a specific locale?
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<duali> mohamed Please, I can't receive email openMRS implementers since thres days
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<Joaquin__> sunbiz: instead of having to look it up one by one
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<sunbiz> Joaquin_ : spit out??
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<Joaquin__> sunbiz: sorry, show you either on the screen or in some kind of export file
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<sunbiz> what do u mean by spit out?
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<sunbiz> ohhh... u mean an export of all the messages??
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<Joaquin__> or have it show on the screen
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<sunbiz> I dont think that feature exists... but should be possible through an SQL
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<Joaquin__> but right now what I see is that I have to type in the start of a message name and then it shows me all of the messages that start with that
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<Joaquin__> sunbiz: yeah, my use case would be to have a file or a web page with all of the messages that still need to be translated for spanish locale
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<Joaquin__> sunbiz: that way i can have a non technical person enter the translations
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<duali> Please, I can't receive email openMRS implementers since thres days
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<sunbiz> Joaquin__: yes, looks like a useful feature
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<djazayeri> duali: try go.openmrs.org/helpdesk
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<duali> ok thanks
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<Joaquin__> sunbiz: ok, should I place that request somewhere?
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<sunbiz> Joaquin__: dont u want to use the es.properties file??
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<Joaquin__> sunbiz: also, any idea what the SQL query would look like?
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<sunbiz> Joaquin__: lemme look at the tables again
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<Joaquin__> sunbiz: perhaps stupid question, but where is the language properties file?
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<Joaquin__> sunbiz: if I remember correctly it has what has been translated, but it doesn't contain the messages which havne't been translated
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<Joaquin__> sunbiz: so I can't go in and see what remains to be translated, does that make sense?
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<sunbiz> openmrs/webapp/src/main/webapp/WEB-INF/messages_es.properties
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<sunbiz> yes, you can look at this file... and if u had an intelligent IDE (like Netbeans)... it will compare all the messages.properties files
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<sunbiz> and show you the values for all keys
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<djazayeri> Joaquin__: /webapp/src/main/webap/WEB-INF/messages.properties
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<irfn> bwolfe: djazayeri: intresting issue i had
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<irfn> bwolfe: djazayeri:found the cause
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<bwolfe> nice
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<irfn> <context-param>
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<irfn> bwolfe: my web.xml was loading beans from openmrs as well
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<irfn> which are supposed to be loaded in a slightly different manner
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<bwolfe> irfn, in the api jar?
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<irfn> and i was having that wildcard contextConfigLocation
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<bwolfe> irfn, oh, I see what you mean
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<bwolfe> Joaquin_again, type /nick jblaya
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<Joaquin_again> sunbiz: the last message I mentioned that I couldn't see which messages were not in a specific locale
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<jblaya> sunbiz: is there a way to do that?
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<sunbiz> for the feature
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<jblaya> sunbiz: make the comment in the wiki on the module page?
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<sunbiz> jblaya: do u use an IDE... I think Eclipse shjould have that feature as well
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<bwolfe> it might connect to multiple files, but doubt it
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<jblaya> sunbiz: mark goodrich just showed me the module in eclipse, so I'll use that
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<szrrizvi> Hi. Sorry to interrupt. But I was wondering if someone could tell me how to create "Encounters" for a patient in OpenMRS
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<szrrizvi> I only see the option to edit encounters on the patient dashboard.
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<szrrizvi> Is there anyone paying attention to the chat?
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<djazayeri> hi rafa
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<rafa> hi
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<djazayeri> quick question: how much work would it take to add to metadata sharing the idea that when you're importing a concept, it looks for similar concepts based on having the same mapping.
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<djazayeri> and if it finds a match that way it suggests it.
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<djazayeri> (instead of just looking by name)
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<djazayeri> is that easy after your refactoring? or would it be hacky?
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<rafa> djazayeri: It should be pretty easy given the recent refactoring.
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<rafa> djazayeri: It's doable in one afternoon.
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<bwolfe> rafa, you have 20 mins. go.
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<rafa> djazayeri: Do we want to skip matching by name at all or just use mapping first?
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<djazayeri> I don't know the answer to that in general.
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<djazayeri> If it'd take an afternoon, then it's not worth doing now.
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<djazayeri> If it was 15 minutes, I might ask you to do it first thing tomorrow
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<rafa> djazayeri: be it an hour ;)
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<djazayeri> that's too long before we get 1.9 out. :-)
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<rafa> I'll wake up earlier ;)
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<djazayeri> Let me go talk to Ellen and Andy about the specific use case.
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<djazayeri> (Basically they want to show how easy it is to export a ministry of health form from one OpenMRS site in Rwanda to another one.
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<djazayeri> And they have all their concepts mapped.
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<djazayeri> but their UUIDs differ.
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<djazayeri> And they don't want to have to manually search 400 times...
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<rafa> djazayeri: I see. It should work fine if we changed it to look for mappings.
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<rafa> djazayeri: but still it'll be needed to confirm all those items
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<djazayeri> rafa: yeah, but at least they don't have to search for them
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<djazayeri> so, here's the request: do this as quickly as possible, being hacky if necessary
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<djazayeri> and if it takes longer than estimated, don't do itâ1.9 is the priority
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<djazayeri> first search for a match based on having the same mapping for the source "PIH"
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<djazayeri> otherwise, search by name.
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<djazayeri> (You could make this a global property for which concept sources we care about.)
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<djazayeri> This doesn't need to be checked in. You can give mark a patch and he'll do a custom build.
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<djazayeri> (since he's already got one non-checked-in fix that's required)
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<djazayeri> rafa: makes sense?
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<rafa> djazayeri: Cool. I just don't get the global property thing.
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<rafa> djazayeri: What is it for?
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<djazayeri> I mean that for this specific case you can be hacky and hardcode that you're looking specifically for the "PIH" mapping
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<djazayeri> i.e. we're specifically looking for a concept that matches based on that specific mapping, and not something like "SNOMED" or "ICD"
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<rafa> djazayeri: but the "PIH" is contained in concepts in package anyway, isn't it?
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<djazayeri> yes
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<djazayeri> though it's probably fine just to search by name.
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<rafa> djazayeri: okay, got it.
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<djazayeri> forget the global property.
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<djazayeri> At some point in the future we'll do a "real" version of this idea.
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<djazayeri> For now it's a quick hack.
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<rafa> djazayeri: yeah I figured that :)
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<rafa> djazayeri: I'll ping Mark tomorrow morning.
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<rafa> djazayeri: hopefully with a patch :)
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<djazayeri> Okay, he's gone to bed so I'll email all relevant parties now.
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