IRC Chat : 2011-09-08 - OpenMRS

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06:10:56 <dkayiwa> hi wyclif
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10:16:59 <surangak__> bwolfe, hellooo
10:17:06 <surangak__> bwolfe, mind checking this out ?
10:17:07 <surangak__> https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/SYNC-183
10:17:13 <bwolfe> checking it already
10:17:14 <surangak__> do u like the pic :-)
10:17:24 <surangak__> oh , thats faaaaaaaaaast
10:18:12 <bwolfe> having it in the header is convenient...but I fear its not obvious for users
10:18:20 <surangak__> oh...
10:18:30 <surangak__> ummm where do u suggest i put it ?
10:18:37 <surangak__> or should i make it more noticable
10:19:14 <pascal`> bwolfe, do you have any idea how to reconnect projects to the SVN?
10:19:14 <bwolfe> not sure
10:19:29 <bwolfe> its fine for now I guess. if someone needs it they will look for it. :-)
10:19:35 <pascal`> bwolfe, my eclipse suddenly decided to die and I had to reinstall, but now none of my working copies are getting detected properly ;'(
10:19:54 <bwolfe> pascal`, the .svn folders are still there in your filesystem though, right?
10:20:21 <surangak__> Sometimes a maven update project coniguration might work ?
10:20:51 <pascal`> bwolfe, yup
10:21:55 <bwolfe> pascal`, then you just need to make sure you have the right plugins installed in eclipse
10:22:06 <bwolfe> a project is "attached" if it has the .svn folders
10:22:33 <surangak__> bwolfe, will do, I'll clean this up and attach the patch by tomoorow ?
10:22:36 <surangak__> bwolfe, thanks
10:23:27 <pascal`> bwolfe, I have subclipse installed, in fact I copied the plugins and features across from my old b0rked install
10:23:57 <bwolfe> pascal`, are you sure its installed correctly? are you able to check out new projects from svn?
10:24:13 <pascal`> bwolfe, I'll give it a try
10:35:39 <pascal`> bwolfe, yup, works perfectly
10:36:30 <bwolfe> strange. but when you right click on the old projects and go to "team" you don't see the normal stuff?
10:37:40 <pascal`> bwolfe, I see the normal stuff, but most of it is greyed out
10:37:56 <pascal`> Gonnna try some of the hacks suggested here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1156330/how-do-you-make-eclipse-use-an-existing-svn-working-copy
10:37:59 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/9$q8> (at stackoverflow.com)
10:38:07 <pascal`> This is pretty frustrating though =S
10:38:23 <bwolfe> pascal`, what isn't greyed out?
10:39:55 <pascal`> well, I disconnected one project, so for that one, now, I have:
10:40:14 <pascal`> "Apply Patch" and "Share Project"
10:40:44 <pascal`> The, when I select "Share Project" I get:
10:42:46 <pascal`> "This project appears to contain Subversion metadata folders. If you continue, those folders will be deleted, and the Subversion information will be lost. In order for Subclipse to automatically reconnect a project to a repository, the project root folder needs to contain a Subversion metedata folder. Most likely it doesn't, or you would not see this message."
10:42:57 <pascal`> But it has all the .svn metadata folders.
10:44:10 <bwolfe> but does the root project have the .svn folder ?
10:44:14 <bwolfe> err, root folder
10:45:32 <pascal`> bwolfe, you mean the workspace root?
10:45:40 <bwolfe> no, the project
10:45:52 <pascal`> bwolfe, no, it doesn't, but each project root folder has a .svn folder
10:45:55 <pascal`> bwolfe, yes
10:46:50 <bwolfe> hmm, strange
10:48:59 <pascal`> yes, and extremely annoying
10:52:37 <pascal`> might be a version thing, playing around with different versions
10:57:47 <bwolfe> pascal`, there are other svn plugins for eclipse too
10:57:52 <bwolfe> might try subversive maybe
10:57:56 <bwolfe> I've heard good things about that one
10:58:25 <pascal`> bwolfe, upgraded to subclipse 1.6.x now and now I only have "Appl Patch" in the Team menu :\
10:58:40 <bwolfe> ha
10:58:46 <bwolfe> its getting worse!
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11:23:33 <pascal`> bwolfe, subversive fixed it!
11:24:03 <pascal`> bwolfe, i'm able to just automagically (although, in theory it should be pretty simple) connect projects to their repo's using existing svn metadata
11:24:05 <bwolfe> pascal`, awesome
11:24:10 <pascal`> subclipse--
11:24:15 <pascal`> subversive++
11:24:15 <bwolfe> heh
11:26:00 <pascal`> bwolfe, I just uninstalled subclipse and restarted eclipse and all the projects automatically connected again
11:26:09 <pascal`> subversive++
11:26:17 <bwolfe> pascal`, yeah, that sounds more right
11:26:36 * bwolfe wonders if just closing/opening hte projects would have triggered subclipse to figure it out
11:28:40 <pascal`> bwolfe, I tried thst
11:33:51 <pascal`> bwolfe, are they deciding on the implementers meeting scholarships based on openmrs karma?
11:33:57 <pascal`> bwolfe, I think they should (=
11:34:02 <pascal`> !karma bwolfe
11:34:02 <OpenMRSBot> pascal`: Karma for "bwolfe" has been increased 122 times and decreased 28 times for a total karma of 94.
11:35:55 <upul`> bwolfe++
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11:36:21 <bwolfe> pascal`, you should ask downeym to factor that into the decision. :-) he might also then want to factor in the karma from http://answers.openmrs.org, so you might want to get busy there
11:36:31 <bwolfe> haha, a parting shot from upul!
11:37:17 <pascal`> I'll take a look
11:37:26 <pascal`> upul`++
11:45:41 <pascal`> Cool, it's like stackexchange (=
11:46:33 <bwolfe> you mean stackoverflow?
11:46:36 <bwolfe> or expertsexchange?
11:58:05 <pascal`> the one that it's like
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13:07:29 <dkayiwa> hi bwolfe
13:07:42 <bwolfe> hey
13:08:01 <dkayiwa> bwolfe: are the devs supposed to attend the implementers Thursday meeting?
13:08:08 <bwolfe> only if you want to
13:08:14 <dkayiwa> ok thanks
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13:30:50 <wyclif> hi bryq
13:31:00 <wyclif> sorry hi bwolfe
13:31:21 <bwolfe> hi wyclif
13:31:37 <wyclif> for SYNC-49, Use Alerts in the Sync Module
13:32:31 <wyclif> am required to add a sync manager role, but i see no way to register a new role in the module documentation
13:32:49 <wyclif> or is it supposed to be through sql?
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13:33:13 <wyclif> bwolfe, see my question above
13:34:33 <bwolfe> I think you can do it via the config.xml
13:34:40 <wyclif> how?
13:34:53 <wyclif> is there a 'role' tag
13:35:33 <bwolfe> I dunno, check the module config page
13:35:45 <wyclif> hi djazayeri, have you registered a role through a module before using the config.xml file?
13:35:53 <wyclif> i have checked it
13:36:11 <wyclif> it only show how to add a privilege and not a role
13:36:38 <djazayeri> So perhaps that's not implemented yet…
13:37:15 <bwolfe> wyclif, if its not on that page then it probably doesn't exist
13:41:24 <wyclif> djazayeri, bwolfe , can i create a ticket for this
13:41:44 <wyclif> something we can add in the future
13:42:03 <bwolfe> I suppose. I don't see it as a huge need though. could be a good intro ticket I guess
13:42:22 <wyclif> so now i have to do it via sql then
13:51:04 <jriley> djazayeri , would you mind if I cut and paste some of yesterday's OpenMRS U notes to answers.openmrs ? I don't want to steal your badge points :)
13:51:15 <djazayeri> You can have my batch points.
13:51:17 <djazayeri> badge points.
13:51:25 <djazayeri> Also batch points, if such things exist.
13:51:26 <jriley> You don't need no steenkin' badges?
13:52:23 <djazayeri> My answers are open-source.
13:56:10 <dkayiwa> :)
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14:06:12 <wyclif> djazayeri, bwolfe i have created https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-2641
14:06:47 <wyclif> djazayeri, bwolfe we dont have to do this in 1.9
14:07:06 <wyclif> it could be in future releases
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14:45:57 <bwolfe> wyclif, very good chance it WON'T be in 1.9
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15:02:29 <naho> Hi guys, I have changed basicmodule name to comform with the new name, on clean and install i get:........basicmodule.extension.html does not exist;ref: http://pastebin.com/gS3CJsh3
15:05:05 <naho> i guess im doing something wrong somewhere as regards name changes, any help please..
15:05:36 <bwolfe> naho, did you change the config.xml file?
15:05:41 <bwolfe> the moduleApplicationContext.xml file?
15:06:04 <bwolfe> naho, might be easier to start by using this maven archetype to create the module: https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Using+the+Module+Maven+Archetype
15:06:10 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/9$wo> (at wiki.openmrs.org)
15:10:04 <djazayeri> bwolfe, rafa, dkayiwa, wyclif, (MarkG?), scrum?
15:10:12 <dkayiwa> hi
15:11:48 <dkayiwa> djazayeri: can i give my update? i want to run some where.
15:12:12 <djazayeri> yes
15:12:15 <dkayiwa> Worked on review comments for my earlier tickets
15:12:16 <dkayiwa> Worked on: running sync manually from the sync/status.list?mode=SEND_WEB page should check to see if a sync process is currently running and return message to wait if so - SYNC-200
15:12:16 <dkayiwa> Worked on: Misleading error message is shown when setting up a child server - SYNC-209
15:12:16 <dkayiwa> Now working on: Allow for the ability to make batch changes from the History of Changes page - SYNC-184
15:12:17 <dkayiwa> No Blockers
15:12:48 <djazayeri> dkayiwa: are those various "worked on" ticket committed?
15:13:02 <dkayiwa> djazayeri: yes
15:13:42 <djazayeri> Okay. Maybe in the future consider saying "Committed:", so I don't think you just worked on 3 tickets and left them incomplete. :-)
15:14:01 <dkayiwa> oh i see. will do so :D
15:14:55 <rafa> hi, may I now?
15:14:59 <djazayeri> yes
15:15:07 <rafa> *** Rafal ***
15:15:07 <rafa> Today:
15:15:07 <rafa> * Committed SYNC-191: there should be an indication of last ingest success/failure on parent server for each sync_server
15:15:07 <rafa> https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/SYNC-191
15:15:07 <rafa> * Started with SYNC-20: record origin w/ sync records
15:15:08 <rafa> https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/SYNC-20
15:15:08 <rafa> * Devs call
15:15:09 <rafa> Tomorrow:
15:15:09 <rafa> * Continue with SYNC-20
15:15:10 <rafa> No blockers.
15:15:41 <naho> actually ben i followed your screen casts tutorials and yes i changed config.xml
15:15:46 <naho> aah you mean this part <context:component-scanbase-package="@MODULE_PACKAGE@.web.controller"/>
15:17:36 <djazayeri> rafa: okay
15:17:55 <djazayeri> My report:
15:17:58 <djazayeri> Wednesday
15:17:58 <djazayeri> * University call
15:17:58 <djazayeri> * Design call
15:17:58 <djazayeri> * Leadership call
15:17:58 <djazayeri> * Researched slow sync + hl7 issue for Jeremy
15:17:58 <djazayeri> * Tried apply a logic patch for Steve. Got stuck in a rabbit hole.
15:17:59 <djazayeri> Thursday
15:17:59 <djazayeri> * Implementers call, Developers call, Leadership call
15:18:00 <djazayeri> * Call with Gretchen about Pentaho
15:18:00 <djazayeri> * Try again to record last week's OpenMRS University screencast
15:18:01 <djazayeri> * Organize tickets for 1.9 alpha push
15:18:54 <rafa> djazayeri: haha Darius you're screencast guru :D
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15:19:22 <djazayeri> Well, the first time it failed was due to screencast software. The second time was due to OpenMRS. :-)
15:20:33 <rafa> djazayeri: shame on you blaming OpenMRS ;)
15:22:51 <wyclif> hi
15:25:46 <wyclif> yesterday:
15:25:46 <wyclif> - SYNC-41
15:25:46 <wyclif> - respond to review comments from last sprint(TRUNK-2603, TRUNK-2605)
15:25:46 <wyclif> - design forum
15:25:46 <wyclif> - sync-49
15:25:47 <wyclif> today:
15:25:51 <wyclif> - review comments from sprint tickets
15:25:53 <wyclif> - sprint tickets(if none, i work on other roadmap tickets)
15:26:11 <djazayeri> !ticket sync-41
15:26:12 <OpenMRSBot> djazayeri: [#SYNC-41] Add "Clean Up Old Sync Records" scheduled task maintenance to Maintenance page - OpenMRS JIRA - https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/sync-41
15:26:17 <djazayeri> !ticket sync-49
15:26:18 <OpenMRSBot> djazayeri: [#SYNC-49] Use Alerts in the Sync Module - OpenMRS JIRA - https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/sync-49
15:26:42 <djazayeri> are we almost out of tickets?
15:26:51 <wyclif> but am not sure is my commit for SYNC-49 is what was invisioned
15:36:51 <wyclif> the revision is included on the ticket
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18:14:35 <sunbiz> does anybody know how to fix the "Hapenning Now" thing from our wiki
18:14:52 <sunbiz> it says the "developer Forum" is happening now!! :P
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18:22:32 <bwolfe> sunbiz, its a label on the wiki page
18:22:36 <bwolfe> just delete the label
18:23:23 <sunbiz> bwolfe: the homepage??
18:23:27 <sunbiz> https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Home
18:23:30 <sunbiz> label here??
18:23:32 <bwolfe> the page it links to
18:24:11 <sunbiz> =-O
18:24:29 <bwolfe> click the "happening now" link
18:24:35 <bwolfe> that should go to the developer forum page
18:24:39 <bwolfe> the dev forum page has the label
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18:30:27 <sunbiz> bwolfe: what do u say in the label??
18:30:55 <sunbiz> bwolfe: https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-2642 plzz..
18:30:59 <bwolfe> sunbiz?? just delete the label to make it go away
18:31:09 <sunbiz> and what to add??
18:31:13 <sunbiz> when u want it to show
18:31:15 <bwolfe> to make it reappear?
18:31:20 <bwolfe> I think its "happening-now"
18:32:40 <sunbiz> yippie!!
18:34:55 <sunbiz> bwolfe: thanks!!
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18:53:54 <15SABA4TX> hmm.. Ive had many ghosts in the past.. but this is the first time they called me I5SABA..... :D
18:54:06 <15SABA4TX> suranga here :P
18:55:38 <bwolfe> 15SABA4TX, nice
18:55:44 <bwolfe> are you on the web client?
18:55:53 <15SABA4TX> please dont kick me Ben :D
18:56:09 <bwolfe> /kick surangak
18:56:10 <15SABA4TX> no, seems i've got two tabs open by mistake :-)
18:56:15 <bwolfe> shoot, swing and a miss!
18:56:23 <15SABA4TX> that waz the real me :D
18:56:36 <15SABA4TX> two strikes remaining
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20:03:30 <bwolfe> sunbiz, it might be cool to bundle sqlite as you proposed earlier
20:03:39 <bwolfe> that would allow for potentially simpler deployments
20:04:11 <bwolfe> like I just found a jetty app for android. if sqlite was bundled I could have an openmrs server on my phone!
20:04:51 <sunbiz> ohhh... that'd b 3MB extra
20:04:56 <sunbiz> and will need some testing
20:05:05 <bwolfe> oh, thats not part of your general testing?
20:05:11 <bwolfe> ok, can come as a second step then
20:05:12 <sunbiz> but SQLite good nevertheless
20:05:23 <sunbiz> nope...
20:05:39 <bwolfe> no, not a second step?
20:06:01 <sunbiz> anyways... been hard to test on mssql, postgres, mysql, oracle
20:06:10 <sunbiz> yes... probably as a second step
20:06:36 <sunbiz> but running openmrs on android... lots of other stuff to fix I guess!! :P'
20:08:23 <bwolfe> nah, if theres a servlet container and a db, it should work just fine
20:08:28 <bwolfe> .../should/
20:10:30 <sunbiz> servlet container :D
20:10:48 <sunbiz> we should test it on Harmony first!! :D
20:15:17 <bwolfe> harmony is a servlet container?
20:15:19 <sunbiz> BTW, bwolfe
20:15:25 <sunbiz> harmony is a JVM
20:15:33 <sunbiz> on which the Android is loosly based
20:16:02 <bwolfe> ah, ok
20:16:03 <sunbiz> BTW bwolfe I was discussing/telling djazayeri why we have <tab>
20:16:08 <sunbiz> for the formatter
20:16:59 <sunbiz> why do we use tabs??
20:17:05 <sunbiz> isn't that mayhem :D
20:17:32 <bwolfe> why is it mayhem?
20:17:35 <bwolfe> tabs >> spaces
20:17:35 <sunbiz> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2009/04/death-to-the-space-infidels.html
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20:17:47 <sunbiz> different editors represent them differently
20:17:50 <sunbiz> and platfors
20:17:54 <sunbiz> *platforms
20:18:03 <sunbiz> pity to vi !!
20:18:40 <sunbiz> "neverending last-man-standing filibuster arguments about code formatting" :D
20:19:06 <djazayeri> Generally speaking I'm convinced that spaces are better...
20:19:43 <djazayeri> But I *hate* it when we reformat our whole codebase
20:20:06 <sunbiz> who reformatted our entire codebase??
20:20:07 <djazayeri> and we lose the ability to know what lines were touched by whom
20:20:26 <bwolfe> you don't lose that, you just have to dig deeper and its a huge pain
20:20:31 <sunbiz> djazayeri: oh... u mean if it were done
20:20:37 <djazayeri> I mean if we were to change from tabs to spaces. yes
20:20:51 <bwolfe> I like tabs just because of the less-bits-used issue. but I don't care /that/ much about it. its a 51/49 kind of thing
20:21:06 <sunbiz> djazayeri: agreed... just a click extra or command extra... depending on ur X-env
20:21:10 <bwolfe> but maven should be doing the formatting, so editors formats shouldn't come into play
20:22:02 <sunbiz> bwolfe: thus, it brings me to my point of formatting XML through maven... I dont like Netbeans do it... and then not matching with other eclipsers
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20:22:31 <bwolfe> I don't think we should format our xml at all
20:22:40 <bwolfe> or our jsps
20:23:02 <bwolfe> I've yet to find a formatter that does any helpful formatting with either
20:23:57 <sunbiz> Netbeans does it nicely!!
20:24:05 <sunbiz> for both JSP and XML :D
20:24:18 <sunbiz> and it'll tell u when u do bad tags in JSP
20:24:23 <bwolfe> sunbiz, you just said you didn't like how netbeans did it
20:24:26 <sunbiz> most of the times correctly...
20:24:40 <sunbiz> I didnt like that it wont match with eclipsers
20:25:59 <sunbiz> bwolfe: u stole my commit sequence!! :P
20:27:18 <bwolfe> sunbiz, were you on a role?
20:27:37 <sunbiz> :D just kidding!!
20:27:58 <bwolfe> good, 'cause I'm not sorry for jumping in the middle. :-)
20:28:04 <sunbiz> had those changes for many weeks
20:28:28 <sunbiz> thought I'd commit it before I lose it
20:28:50 <bwolfe> you're brave to have traveled without committing!
20:29:00 <bwolfe> thats usually when I go on a "svn co" binge
20:29:19 <sunbiz> yes.. thankfully no1 was writing to those files
20:29:25 <sunbiz> I was updating daily...
20:31:42 <sunbiz> should I file an ITSM ticket... that we should have a maven site ??
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20:31:58 <sunbiz> because discussion kind of didnt happen on the mailing list
20:38:16 <sunbiz> bwolfe: are u sure... if we have can place changesets anywhere in a file... and if they are not already executed... they will be seen and executed by liquibase??
20:39:00 <bwolfe> yes, positive
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20:39:25 <djazayeri> yes, order doesn't matter
20:41:06 <sunbiz> ok it wasnt finding a changeset for me...
20:41:52 <sunbiz> so... I only have update-to-latest not committed
20:42:02 <sunbiz> but Im a little scared... how to do it...
20:42:12 <sunbiz> without breaking for others
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20:46:13 <sunbiz> should I file an ITSM ticket... that we should have a maven site ??
20:48:45 <bwolfe> sure. and send a screenshot or link to a generate site to that email thread
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20:53:24 * downeym isn't sure many people on the list understood what would be contained in our mvn site
20:53:55 <djazayeri> yes, exactly. we need to be spoon-fed an example
20:54:43 <sunbiz> downeym: http://maven.apache.org/jxr/project-info.html
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20:54:48 <sunbiz> this is an example maven site
20:54:55 <djazayeri> send it to the mailing list
20:54:56 <djazayeri> on that thread
20:55:02 <sunbiz> look look
20:55:33 <downeym> +1 what djazayeri said :)
20:55:40 <sunbiz> for example look at the project reports... they have nicely integrated checkstyles
20:56:25 <sunbiz> it shows also number of TODOs
20:56:28 <sunbiz> in code
20:56:38 <sunbiz> I think it was in the email
21:03:17 <djazayeri> sunbiz: I don't remember seeing a link to "this is an example of a maven-generated site: click here" in the email thread.
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21:16:51 <sunbiz> djazayeri: I had written: "This is the old school javadocs. The new age maven site e.g.: http://maven.apache.org/ant-tasks/index.html"
21:17:07 <sunbiz> so that e.g. was supposed to be seen by ppl
21:17:34 <djazayeri> sunbiz: I'm just saying that when I read/skimmed the email, I didn't realize that was a link to a maven-generated site.
21:17:49 <djazayeri> Send another link in a short message just saying it's an example.
21:17:56 <sunbiz> BTW openmrs-web is failing for me
21:18:08 <djazayeri> Nobody will be upset about getting one more email, and some will be happy to see it.
21:19:12 <sunbiz> I wonder why CI hasnt complained or shouted!!
21:20:49 <sunbiz> djazayeri: should I remove that log.warn from OpenmrsConstants??
21:21:02 <sunbiz> sorry... AttributeUtil
21:50:49 <sunbiz> chughgaurav: thanks for the nice updates to the Netbeans version :)
21:55:59 <chughgaurav> sunbiz: welcome :)
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