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| 02:24:46 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: How the openmrs handlers are registered? <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=781#p2957> |
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| 03:45:47 | <mccallumg> hi surangak. Sorry i'm late. :( |
| 03:46:15 | <surangak> mccallumg: hello |
| 03:46:28 | <surangak> mccallumg: would it be over if we move on to skype i think |
| 03:46:41 | <surangak> mccallumg: my irc connection is not good, yesterday it kept dropping |
| 03:46:49 | <surangak> mccallumg: would that be ok ? |
| 03:46:54 | <mccallumg> surangak: skype is more stable? |
| 03:47:16 | <surangak> mccallumg: afraid it is to me |
| 03:47:36 | <mccallumg> surangak: ok |
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| 03:47:44 | <surangak> mccallumg: yesterday i had to do a lot of "im sorry, got cut off, could you repeaet that again please ":( |
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| 05:04:55 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: New Changeset: OpenMRS (1.8.x): Backporting, Cannot edit 2 patient records in separate tabs on the short patient form - TRUNK-2325 <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OMRStrunk/~3/_Vp7geSgV-E/OpenMRS> || New Changeset: OpenMRS (trunk): Follow up to, Edit patient link is not created correctly for a non admin user - TRUNK-2326 <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OMRStrunk/~3/WjV4gu9id70/OpenMRS> |
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| 05:36:58 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: New Changeset: OpenMRS (1.8.x): Backporting, Edit patient link is not created correctly for a non admin user - TRUNK-2326 <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OMRStrunk/~3/2kM_rt32l9k/OpenMRS> |
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| 06:32:02 | <surangak> hello everyone |
| 06:32:07 | <surangak> im curious |
| 06:32:23 | <surangak> has anyone tried creating a visit |
| 06:32:29 | <surangak> using the new visit attributes |
| 06:32:54 | <surangak> and came up with java.lang.ClassCastException java.util.HashSet cannot be cast to java.util.SortedSet |
| 06:33:01 | <surangak> im looking for a friendly sould |
| 06:33:05 | <surangak> *soul |
| 06:33:14 | <surangak> who could possibily duplicate it for me |
| 06:33:24 | <surangak> to see if im doing anything wrong |
| 06:33:58 | <surangak> test |
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| 06:39:09 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: New Changeset: OpenMRS (webapp-testing): Added javadoc for random method. Organized imports - CR-TRUNK-348 <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OMRStrunk/~3/_MPgaF2FZ3Q/OpenMRS> || New Changeset: OpenMRS (1.8.x): Backporting, Add Missing help tool tips on the concept form when datatype is changed - TRUNK-2052 <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OMRStrunk/~3/rR5k6mhgtaA/OpenMRS> || New Changeset: OpenMRS (trunk): Closing unclosed img tags as a follow up to TRUNK-2052 <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OMRStrunk/~3/ZYBIkOuJwhI/OpenMRS> |
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| 11:45:20 | <surangak> hello ppl |
| 11:45:38 | <surangak> wonder if any od u ever tried creatin a visit attribute, |
| 11:45:45 | <surangak> and came up with an error |
| 11:46:12 | <surangak> sorry , when i say visit attribute, I mean adding attributes to visits |
| 11:46:19 | <surangak> as implimented by darius |
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| 12:03:22 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: How the openmrs handlers are registered? <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=781#p2958> |
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| 12:33:34 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: New Changeset: OpenMRS (1.6.x): TRUNK-1874 : Backporting fix to 1.6.x for DWR issues with Tomcat 7 <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OMRStrunk/~3/om1IVa9S6LA/OpenMRS> || New Changeset: OpenMRS (1.7.x): TRUNK-1874 : Backporting fix to 1.7.x for DWR issues with Tomcat 7 <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OMRStrunk/~3/KRt4fPvFroo/OpenMRS> || New Changeset: OpenMRS (trunk): TRUNK-1874 : Fixes DWR issue with Tomcat 7 <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OMRStrunk/~3/f75O9iMlQ-Y/OpenMRS> |
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| 13:24:49 | <surangak> hi guys, ive noted that my branch is not getting any updates... |
| 13:25:04 | <surangak> that is, shouldnt we get updates to keep it in line with the trunk |
| 13:25:29 | <surangak> when i try to update i dont seem to be getting any new stuff... |
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| 13:28:19 | <surangak> downeym: hi, r u busy ? |
| 13:28:26 | <surangak> downeym: small clarification... |
| 13:28:36 | <downeym> hi surangak. just getting ready for the meeting. what's up? :) |
| 13:28:49 | <surangak> oh sorry, theres a hour for that right ? |
| 13:29:17 | <surangak> i was wondering, the branch i got for my development, i dont seem to be getting any updates to it |
| 13:29:30 | <surangak> that is, shoudnt it be keeping in line with the latest trunk... |
| 13:30:11 | <downeym> surangak: Have you looked yet at https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Subversion+Branching+and+Merging+Techniques ? |
| 13:30:17 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8sF5> (at wiki.openmrs.org) |
| 13:31:57 | <surangak> let me check that... |
| 13:31:59 | <surangak> thanks |
| 13:33:20 | <downeym> surangak: cool. let us know if you get problems with it |
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| 13:57:07 | <downeym> !devmtg |
| 13:57:07 | <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer meeting Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern - http://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Weekly+Developer+Meeting |
| 14:02:54 | <downeym> -3 minutes from now :) |
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| 14:11:47 | <chopin> o/ |
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| 14:12:30 | <downeym> Hi Zabil and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
| 14:13:19 | <chopin> hi zabil |
| 14:13:27 | * chopin = jeremy keiper |
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| 14:13:49 | <Zabil> hi jeremy |
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| 14:21:53 | <r-friedman> hi all, where are the slides? |
| 14:24:32 | <chopin> !refer r-friedman http://connect.openmrs.org |
| 14:24:32 | * OpenMRSBot refers r-friedman to http://connect.openmrs.org |
| 14:25:15 | <r-friedman> chopin: tks |
| 14:26:04 | <downeym> r-friedman: also on the weekly agenda page if you'd like to download |
| 14:26:12 | <chopin> np |
| 14:26:30 | <r-friedman> downeym: tks, i just never can remember "connect" |
| 14:27:36 | <downeym> r-friedman: Can you remember http://go.openmrs.org/roger ? :) |
| 14:28:02 | * chopin starts using that URL |
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| 14:28:45 | <r-friedman> downeym: :-)) |
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| 14:48:31 | <mccallumg> Did anyone find an ERD or UML image of the vmr model on that wiki page? |
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| 14:55:29 | <downeym> Hi losalo and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
| 14:56:25 | <losalo> Hi, i have some trouble on getting openmrs 1.7.1 working with oracle, anyone did that? |
| 15:00:04 | <chopin> sorry losalo ... i haven't, but you should send an email to the developers list and/or the implementers list to see if anyone has |
| 15:00:18 | <mccallumg> one sec, losalo. Let me look something up. |
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| 15:01:41 | <mccallumg> Department of Biomedical Informatics at the University of Pittsburg |
| 15:02:39 | <mccallumg> losalo: this guy did it. http://www.dbmi.pitt.edu/person/jeremy-espino-md |
| 15:02:43 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8sG8> (at www.dbmi.pitt.edu) |
| 15:03:22 | <losalo> Ok, thanks a lot. I will frop him a note |
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| 15:08:34 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: New Changeset: OpenMRS (obs-codes-expanded): Rollback changes for patient handlers <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OMRStrunk/~3/Dc_uEd6RsB4/OpenMRS> |
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| 15:39:29 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: On Twitter: OpenMRS: RT @gauravpaliwal: listening to #OpenCDS Demo by Ken Kawamoto in @openmrs #weekly #developer #meeting is cool :) <http://twitter.com/OpenMRS/statuses/76304086005321728> |
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| 15:47:03 | <dkayiwa> suho: could we talk after the dev meeting? |
| 15:49:04 | <suho> dkayiwa, yes |
| 15:49:10 | <dkayiwa> ok cool |
| 15:49:19 | <suho> i'm waiting for that :) |
| 15:49:38 | <dkayiwa> :D |
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| 15:58:03 | <downeym> Hi Michael and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
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| 15:58:43 | *** Guest82262 is now known as morristic |
| 15:58:55 | <morristic> Hello |
| 15:59:11 | <morristic> I'm just beginning to get involved in OpenMRS. |
| 15:59:40 | <morristic> Or, I would like to rather. |
| 16:02:09 | <gauravpaliwal> morristic: cool :) from where you wanna start ? |
| 16:03:48 | <suho> hi dkayiwa |
| 16:04:00 | <morristic> I sent an email to the contact form, but I am working with a group in Baltimore on a Baltimore Albert Schweitzer Fellowship project. We are implementing an EHR system at a small free clinic called the Baltimore Rescue Mission Clinic. |
| 16:04:16 | <dkayiwa> suho, is it ok if i get to you in 15 mins? |
| 16:04:16 | <morristic> We were originally using OpenEMR, but I found your guys project and fell in love. |
| 16:04:19 | <downeym> hi morristic - we got it :) |
| 16:04:31 | <downeym> We're in our weekly developer meeting right now so a bit delayed in responding |
| 16:04:34 | <morristic> Hey great! |
| 16:04:35 | <suho> dkayiwa, no problem take your time |
| 16:04:42 | <downeym> Someone will definitely be responding to you soon |
| 16:04:43 | <dkayiwa> thanks |
| 16:04:45 | <morristic> no worries, I caught the tail end of the call |
| 16:04:51 | <downeym> We have a couple team members headed out to the Baltimore area i think |
| 16:04:56 | <downeym> as in moving there |
| 16:05:01 | <morristic> Oh wonderful. |
| 16:05:15 | <suho> is Shaun Grannis around ? |
| 16:05:31 | <downeym> suho: he was on the call |
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| 16:06:16 | <suho> downeym, yes but i dont know how to contact him :) |
| 16:06:29 | <downeym> suho: He is just back from a long holiday |
| 16:06:59 | <suho> downeym, yes |
| 16:07:02 | <morristic> gauravpaliwal: I think i'd like to start with just making sure that I can deploy the OpenMRS platform on our server and get everything up and running. |
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| 16:07:18 | <morristic> I won't be able to be too active until July because I'm studying for USMLE> |
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| 16:09:38 | <gauravpaliwal> morristic : a mix of https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Installing+OpenMRS and implementers mailing list will be cool ( https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/RES/Mailing+Lists ) |
| 16:09:39 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8doo> (at wiki.openmrs.org) |
| 16:10:35 | <morristic> Ah thank you. |
| 16:11:03 | <morristic> Have you guys worked with any datacenters? |
| 16:11:07 | <gauravpaliwal> morristic: you can also check the todays meeting video logs for the basic OpenMRS understanding , although still implementers mailing list is best option :) |
| 16:11:39 | <morristic> for large scale deploys or aggregation? or do you prefer to keep each instance pretty individualized. |
| 16:12:00 | <morristic> Sure, I will, thank you. |
| 16:12:02 | <downeym> james_regen may be able to help you suho |
| 16:12:46 | <downeym> morristic: we'll be away for the next hour or two but if you're around happy to help further after that, or you may find answers from the other folks here |
| 16:13:35 | <suho> downeym, thanks I send an IM request to him, hope I can get touch with him. I need to to start with the NCD module |
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| 16:14:50 | <morristic> downeym: Ok, I'm going to run through another practice exam and I'll look forward to hopefully talking to you guys again soon, or via email. |
| 16:15:32 | <morristic> It's very nice of you guys to have chat and conference calls open to anyone interested. |
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| 16:32:47 | <downeym> Hi vlad__ and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
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| 16:34:27 | <vlad__> Hi, I'd like to build a module for openMRS and I was wondering if there was a list of "modules in demand" or something to that extent somewhere on the site. |
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| 17:48:22 | <downeym> vlad__: Not sure what you mean by "demand"? |
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| 17:49:02 | <vlad__> Modules that have been requested |
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| 17:49:55 | <vlad__> Modules that have not yet been coded but have been requested by someone. |
| 17:49:59 | <downeym> vlad__: Like ideas for new modules? Not much right now. We had some but many were started by our Google Summer of Code students this year and are now underway |
| 17:50:13 | <vlad__> got it |
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| 17:50:31 | <downeym> vlad__: If you are subscribed to our dev@ mailing list, it would be a good question to ask there. |
| 17:51:20 | <vlad__> ok |
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| 17:54:05 | <vlad__> How do i get a listServe password? |
| 17:54:59 | <vlad__> That's what it takes to subscribe to the mailing list, right? |
| 17:55:54 | <vlad__> Oops, i see it. Nevermind. |
| 17:57:42 | <downeym> vlad__: ok :) |
| 18:02:20 | <downeym> morristic-idle: Zeshan Rajput from our team (1 of the 2 moving to baltimore) said at lunch he would love to get in touch with you. You can reach him at zeshan at openmrs.org |
| 18:02:34 | <downeym> morristic-idle: Someone will still formally reply to you but I thought I'd let you know before i forgot :) |
| 18:05:15 | <morristic-idle> one moment, just finishing up a phone call-- |
| 18:05:36 | <downeym> no worries :) |
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| 18:10:24 | <morristic-idle> Ok, sorry about that. I'll definitely send him an email. |
| 18:10:39 | <morristic-idle> Are they coming to Baltimore for a specific project here, or just coincidence? |
| 18:10:52 | <downeym> new day jobs, as best i understand |
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| 18:12:02 | <morristic-idle> That's great. I'd be interested in talking to them. I was watching your youtube channel clips for capacity development. |
| 18:13:21 | <morristic-idle> I think that our group could definitely be more helpful in the front end side. We are mostly tech savvy medical students and will be working directly with the clinic/clinics to train users on the benefits of electronic records and how to work with them. |
| 18:13:44 | <downeym> have you seen this project from a couple years back? https://www.openmrsla.org/faq/ |
| 18:14:27 | <morristic-idle> no, I'm looking at it now |
| 18:14:36 | <downeym> your mail reminded me of it |
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| 18:16:12 | <morristic-idle> Do you know if you guys received any feedback on if the site helped people set up systems? |
| 18:16:32 | <downeym> bwolfe: do you know/remember much about the LA project? |
| 18:16:43 | <bwolfe> somewhat. why? |
| 18:16:51 | <bwolfe> openmrsinla.org I think, right? |
| 18:16:56 | <bwolfe> they wrote the tbla module |
| 18:16:58 | <bwolfe> (in svn) |
| 18:17:08 | <downeym> morristic-idle is looking at a slightly similar kind of context on the east coast |
| 18:17:17 | <downeym> bwolfe: yeah that's the url |
| 18:17:32 | <morristic-idle> In our experience so far, I've found that users take to the workflow of a website well, but they arn't comfortable specking out hardware and building/installing the server software initially. |
| 18:17:45 | <bwolfe> ah, cool. third world context in a first world country? :-) |
| 18:17:56 | <morristic-idle> What works best for us so far is to setup the platform for them, and then just teach them how to use it. |
| 18:18:03 | <morristic-idle> then we provide tech support for issues. |
| 18:18:07 | <downeym> morristic-idle: i have a feeling that happens a lot all around the world |
| 18:18:26 | <morristic-idle> because the users arn't comfortable servicing--for the most part |
| 18:18:30 | <downeym> morristic-idle: eHealth Nigeria is a good example of a team who has done that kind of work recently: http://ehealthnigeria.org/ |
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| 18:18:49 | <morristic-idle> generally when we find a medical staffer who is tech savvy enough to service, we recruit them to the team and have them help train others on the front end. |
| 18:19:04 | <downeym> sounds familiar. :) |
| 18:19:15 | <morristic-idle> most people who arn't familiar with deploying the server don't really want to learn I've found. They will learn a UI |
| 18:19:23 | <morristic-idle> but they don't want to bother with the technical aspects. |
| 18:19:39 | <morristic-idle> So we help them through that part and it seems to work pretty well. |
| 18:19:54 | <morristic-idle> we are hoping to transfer 5000 records from paper to electronic over this year. |
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| 18:20:12 | <downeym> morristic-idle: you are definitely among friends doing similar work |
| 18:20:49 | <morristic-idle> Ah, I will look at that too. One of our team members mentioned that Nigeria was very committed to the OpenMRS project. |
| 18:20:59 | <downeym> chopin works with a group in western kenya that has over 1,000,000 recorded observatiosn |
| 18:21:11 | <morristic-idle> wow! |
| 18:21:44 | <downeym> they're definitely on the large side :) |
| 18:24:25 | <morristic-idle> I am amazed at how quickly underserved countries have taken to the electronic records. And, surprised at how much slower the US is to adopt. The inner city of baltimore has many of the same treatable health conditions. HIV, TB, hypertension, skin infections, in it's underserved population. |
| 18:24:41 | <downeym> morristic-idle: many more regulatory hoops in the US |
| 18:25:18 | <morristic-idle> Indeed. |
| 18:25:18 | <downeym> morristic-idle: at least that's what tends to scare people away |
| 18:28:18 | <morristic-idle> free clinics are a little more flexible i've found to try new things. I think that it may be a really good place to "prove" systems like this in the US, as long as we can have methods of evaluating it. |
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| 18:29:28 | <morristic-idle> Have you already looked at ways to analyze the clinical utility of using OpenMRS vs a traditional MR? |
| 18:30:11 | <bwolfe> there was a group that compared openmrs with some other commercial systems |
| 18:30:16 | <morristic-idle> We were brainstorming some ways. such as, scoring the "completeness" of histories in paper vs electronic format |
| 18:30:18 | * bwolfe can't remember who or what though :-/ |
| 18:30:25 | <morristic-idle> trying to find some way to measure objectiveness. |
| 18:30:52 | <morristic-idle> how many redundant or lost records there are inserted. |
| 18:31:01 | <morristic-idle> things like that. |
| 18:31:35 | <downeym> morristic-idle: If you haven't yet, I suggest subscribing to our implementers mailing list - there are likely folks lurking there who have thought about similar things |
| 18:31:50 | <morristic-idle> I am subscribed :D |
| 18:32:05 | <downeym> excellent :) |
| 18:32:31 | <morristic-idle> I have to do some more cardiology, but thank you so much for taking the time to give me some more information |
| 18:32:55 | <morristic-idle> I will definitely email zeshan shortly |
| 18:33:52 | <morristic-idle> I may be a bit aloof until July. That's when most of our group is done with USMLE and can really pick up the pace. |
| 18:35:04 | <morristic-idle> hopefully it goes well. We are going to work on some surveys for users comparing OpenMRS to OpenEMR |
| 18:35:21 | <downeym> we're happy to support you however we can |
| 18:35:41 | <morristic-idle> and we would be glad to do more datamining or documentation for users for you you as well. |
| 18:36:18 | <morristic-idle> if you have any questionaires that you use already, please feel free to send them our way and we will distribute them to our users/patients. |
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| 18:37:45 | <downeym> morristic-idle: i'd recommend summarizing your current goals to the implementers@o.o list - hopefully you get one or two interested people if not more. :) |
| 18:39:41 | <morristic-idle> Ok, we will prepare something and send it out. It may be beginning of July before we have the full project goals clearly defined. We are meeting with several advisors at Maryland and Hopkins to get some guidance before we decide on our minimum unit specs and deploy. |
| 18:42:51 | <morristic-idle> Thanks for your support. We will be in touch and try to add some fire to the listserve ;) |
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| 21:45:09 | <downeym> Hi Shaabneh and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
| 21:45:29 | <Shaabneh> Echinda: can you help me? |
| 21:46:24 | <Shaabneh> dlawson |
| 21:46:26 | <Shaabneh> ? |
| 21:47:29 | <Shaabneh> any one can help me? |
| 21:47:35 | <dlawson> what do you need Shaabneh? |
| 21:49:21 | <Shaabneh> dlawson: i have OpenMRS project and i want to make some changes |
| 21:49:40 | <dlawson> ok |
| 21:50:44 | <Shaabneh> i want to know how to manage users |
| 21:51:28 | <Shaabneh> like admin can see everything while specific user see specific things |
| 21:51:38 | <dlawson> in the code or in the UI? |
| 21:51:42 | <Shaabneh> in administration tab |
| 21:52:01 | <dlawson> you can manage users using the appropriate link |
| 21:52:05 | <dlawson> I don't know which heading its under |
| 21:52:08 | <dlawson> off the top of my head |
| 21:52:16 | <dlawson> but its called 'manage users' |
| 21:52:17 | <dlawson> additionally |
| 21:52:21 | <Shaabneh> manage users---> add new user ---> |
| 21:52:27 | <dlawson> you would probably be interested in privelages and role management |
| 21:52:28 | <dlawson> yep |
| 21:52:31 | <dlawson> that's the one |
| 21:52:54 | <Shaabneh> give me only two choices Provider or developer |
| 21:53:26 | <dlawson> if you want to add more roles |
| 21:53:35 | <dlawson> then you should go to the Role Management screen |
| 21:53:38 | <Shaabneh> yes how? |
| 21:53:42 | <Shaabneh> ok |
| 21:53:49 | <dlawson> that lets you create roles and select the priveleges associated with them |
| 21:53:49 | <Shaabneh> then? |
| 21:54:00 | <dlawson> I think the link is right below the 'manage users' link |
| 21:54:19 | <Shaabneh> thats all i need? |
| 21:54:28 | <dlawson> as far as I know |
| 21:54:31 | <dlawson> although I'm not an implementer |
| 21:54:41 | <dlawson> yeah if you just click 'add role' |
| 21:54:45 | <dlawson> on the role management screen |
| 21:54:48 | <dlawson> you can create a new role |
| 21:54:53 | <dlawson> with whatever priveleges you want |
| 21:55:04 | <Shaabneh> ooh sorry may i disturb you |
| 21:55:57 | <Shaabneh> thank you for help |
| 21:56:02 | <downeym> Shaabneh: we're here to help. :) |
| 21:56:11 | <downeym> dlawson++ |
| 21:56:21 | <dlawson> no problem |
| 21:56:34 | <Shaabneh> downeym: |
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