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| 03:55:42 | <mccallumg> hey surangak |
| 03:56:38 | <surangak> mccallumg: helllo |
| 03:56:51 | <surangak> mccallumg: so how was the weekend ? |
| 03:57:01 | <mccallumg> pretty good. |
| 03:57:08 | <mccallumg> yours? |
| 03:57:38 | <surangak> mccallumg: hmm... not too bad.. at least we won a rugby match :P |
| 03:58:15 | <mccallumg> surangak: I didn't even realize you guys play rugby. |
| 03:58:29 | <mccallumg> surangak: you have some big guys there? |
| 03:58:33 | <surangak> mccallumg: very few people... its a minority sport |
| 03:58:54 | <surangak> mccallumg: the national team looses matches with wide margins ;( |
| 03:59:46 | <surangak> mccallumg: I did a couple of things over the week end |
| 04:00:03 | <surangak> mccallumg: firstly i added to the wiki page |
| 04:00:07 | <mccallumg> surangak: I saw that. I've been watching the list. |
| 04:00:32 | <mccallumg> surangak: so it looks like PIH doesn't use complex observations |
| 04:00:33 | <surangak> mccallumg: aha |
| 04:00:38 | <surangak> mccallumg: how did they look :-) |
| 04:01:14 | <surangak> yep, for now... that is... Darius says because "no one asked for it yet" i think |
| 04:01:46 | <surangak> mccallumg: plus as of my yesterdays mail, and a conversation with Daniel, seems that the openmrs trunk does not work well with html form entry module |
| 04:02:23 | <mccallumg> surangak: that's a good reason to not use it for testing |
| 04:02:31 | <mccallumg> surangak: what do you think? |
| 04:02:50 | <surangak> mccallumg: daniel told me that there were a couple of issues that had arisen due to work done by Jeremy so far.. |
| 04:03:25 | <surangak> mccallumg: um... didnt understand what you mean by " that's a good reason to not use it for testing" |
| 04:04:19 | <surangak> mccallumg: u mean not to use trunk with the module, and to use the last release instead..... |
| 04:04:56 | <mccallumg> surangak: no. I don't think that you can use the module to create complex obs without modification. |
| 04:05:12 | <mccallumg> surangak: enhancing this module is not in scope for you. |
| 04:05:36 | <surangak> mccallumg: aha.. so maybe if there is time after everything is done we could look at that... |
| 04:05:52 | <surangak> mccallumg: I also did some error validation for handlers |
| 04:05:54 | <mccallumg> surangak: diagrams aren't rendering for me on any of the pages: https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/projects/Expanding+on+Coded+Value+Sources+in+obs+-+Advanced+Design+Page |
| 04:06:01 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8rko> (at wiki.openmrs.org) |
| 04:06:27 | <surangak> mccallumg: u are not getting two sequence diagrams ? |
| 04:06:40 | <mccallumg> no. is it working on your end? |
| 04:06:51 | <surangak> mccallumg: hmm yes... let me look into that |
| 04:08:31 | <mccallumg> surangak: are we ready for the design discussion on wednesday? |
| 04:08:48 | <surangak> mccallumg: I think so... |
| 04:09:11 | <surangak> mccallumg: I will read up on everything again tomorrow... |
| 04:09:41 | <surangak> mccallumg: do we need to send a mail to the list inviting people ? |
| 04:10:18 | <mccallumg> surangak: yes, we do. I was just combing the dev list to see if it had come up. |
| 04:10:24 | <surangak> mccallumg: for now, until I sort out the problem with the wiki page, may i send you the link to the two images instead ? |
| 04:10:43 | <mccallumg> what did you use to create them? |
| 04:10:59 | <surangak> mccallumg: I think normally they dont send reminders to the design meeting, but i thought we notify intreted people to turn up |
| 04:11:05 | <surangak> mccallumg: i used gliffy |
| 04:11:37 | <mccallumg> surangak: your own license for gliffy. or the one that is built into confluence. |
| 04:11:53 | <surangak> mccallumg: confluance one |
| 04:12:01 | <mccallumg> weird that it isn't working then... |
| 04:12:44 | <surangak> it may be the way i linked the digram to the wiki page, I better liik into it... |
| 04:12:54 | <surangak> mccallumg: https://wiki.openmrs.org/download/attachments/11534634/sequence+Diagram+%28complex+obs%29.png |
| 04:13:00 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8rkq> (at wiki.openmrs.org) |
| 04:13:07 | <mccallumg> surangak: are you creating the diagrams in your personal space then linking to them from the project page? |
| 04:13:29 | <surangak> mccallumg: yep, im providing the link to the digram that way.. |
| 04:13:39 | <mccallumg> this link is prompting me for a login... |
| 04:13:58 | <djazayeri> surangak, mccallumg, HTML Form Entry works fine with trunk, but it doesn't handle complex obs. (I don't think the infopath or xforms do either) |
| 04:15:18 | <mccallumg> djazayeri: timely information. thank you. We were thinking about how those would fit into the picture. |
| 04:15:34 | <surangak> aha, then maybe the error i hit was something to do with my setup... |
| 04:15:50 | <surangak> or is it an isolated case caused by my data maybe... |
| 04:16:03 | <djazayeri> surangak: I replicated the error you describe. |
| 04:16:16 | <djazayeri> but it's an error in trunk, it doesn't affect htmlformentry |
| 04:16:29 | <djazayeri> You should file a ticket for it, but that's not urgent. |
| 04:16:40 | <surangak> aha, i'll do that |
| 04:16:51 | <djazayeri> anyway, I have to run. main point being: none of the 3 main formentry modules handle complex obs. |
| 04:17:02 | <surangak> mccallumg: shall i mail you the images to you ? |
| 04:17:16 | <surangak> mccallumg: or maybe skype them ? |
| 04:17:45 | <mccallumg> surangak: can you move them to the project page? What's the advantage of keeping them in your personal space? |
| 04:19:04 | <surangak> mccallumg: let me do that now... |
| 04:23:07 | <surangak> mccallumg: sorry, but is it any better now ? |
| 04:23:10 | <surangak> mccallumg: https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/projects/Expanding+on+Coded+Value+Sources+in+obs+-+Advanced+Design+Page |
| 04:23:11 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8rko> (at wiki.openmrs.org) |
| 04:24:21 | <mccallumg> surangak: still not rendering for me. when you get the images working, will you send out the request to be added to the design call agenda? Include links to the wiki pages. |
| 04:24:52 | <surangak> mccallumg: sure, ill do that right away |
| 04:25:42 | <mccallumg> surangak: thanks. great work. I love the digging you did with the htmlformentry module. I also like the way you're using the dev list. :) talk to you tomorrow. |
| 04:25:54 | <surangak> mccallumg: further on into my research i've got the links working from complex obs... |
| 04:26:38 | <surangak> mccallumg: ya.. the eternal worry is, "is this a probalem on my end' or just a plain old bug :) |
| 04:27:09 | <surangak> mccallumg: see you tomorrow then. Sam place, same time ? |
| 04:28:04 | <mccallumg> surangak: same bat time. same bat channel. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=same%20bat-time%2C%20same%20bat-channel |
| 04:28:10 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8rkw> (at www.urbandictionary.com) |
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| 06:55:36 | <dkayiwa> hi bwolfe |
| 06:55:50 | <bwolfe> good morning daniel |
| 06:56:19 | <dkayiwa> how is Eldoret: bwolfe? |
| 06:56:28 | <bwolfe> great |
| 06:56:36 | <bwolfe> nice and cool. baringo was hot hot hot |
| 06:56:42 | <dkayiwa> lolllll |
| 06:57:03 | <dkayiwa> bwolfe: about the sprint, should i wait for the keek off meeting? |
| 06:57:14 | <bwolfe> you don't have to. |
| 06:57:39 | <bwolfe> you can pick a ticket from the list. https://tickets.openmrs.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=10141 |
| 06:57:41 | <dkayiwa> i saw no available tickets yersterday and i worked on standalone tickets |
| 06:57:45 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8rl_> (at tickets.openmrs.org) |
| 06:57:56 | <bwolfe> dkayiwa, perfect |
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| 06:58:16 | <bwolfe> yeah, I hadn't make the tickets available yet. (I couldn't because darius was hording all the permissions) |
| 06:58:18 | <dkayiwa> oh now they are there |
| 06:58:27 | <dkayiwa> oh i see :) |
| 06:58:30 | <dkayiwa> thanks |
| 06:58:58 | <bwolfe> dkayiwa, before you start on those, do you think you could do one more WS ticket? :-) |
| 06:59:10 | <dkayiwa> yes :) |
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| 06:59:30 | <bwolfe> there should be one about creating a standalone package with the WS module built into it. |
| 06:59:40 | <dkayiwa> ok |
| 06:59:48 | <bwolfe> the standalone will need to be built off of trunk (to get the latest fixes that are not yet backported) |
| 06:59:57 | <dkayiwa> ok |
| 07:00:09 | <bwolfe> just put the ws module into the web-inf/bundledModules folder and then run the script to bundle it |
| 07:00:18 | <dkayiwa> ok |
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| 07:04:19 | <gauravpaliwal> bwolfe : Hi |
| 07:04:26 | <bwolfe> hey |
| 07:05:39 | <gauravpaliwal> Bwolfe : Yesterday I was wondering that do we really need a *edit* the predefined subject/severity level/status , or we have delete or add only ? your suggestions ? |
| 07:07:07 | <bwolfe> gauravpaliwal, deleting + adding a new one is the same as editing. so why not enable editing? :-) |
| 07:07:22 | <bwolfe> if it looks like you need to save time, you can put off editing for now |
| 07:08:10 | <gauravpaliwal> bwolfe : actually to be honest I am aiming at having a minimal demo on 6th |
| 07:08:32 | <bwolfe> ah, then put off editing for now, that is ok |
| 07:09:15 | <gauravpaliwal> bwolfe : thanks :) |
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| 07:11:14 | <bwolfe> gauravpaliwal, let me know when you want a code review from me. |
| 07:11:32 | <bwolfe> (we could do it after the 6th, since you're pushing hard to get the demo available) |
| 07:12:21 | <gauravpaliwal> bwolfe : okeys , one more doubt do I need to have separate trunk for each commit , or I can have only detailed comments |
| 07:12:24 | <gauravpaliwal> ? |
| 07:12:39 | <gauravpaliwal> *trunk = ticket |
| 07:12:48 | <gauravpaliwal> typo :( *trunk = ticket |
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| 07:16:06 | <bwolfe> gauravpaliwal, I can tell you're indian. doubt == question. :-) |
| 07:16:22 | <bwolfe> not sure why that always gets translated that way. |
| 07:16:37 | <gauravpaliwal> hahaha :P |
| 07:16:49 | <bwolfe> you don't need to have a separate ticket for each |
| 07:16:57 | <bwolfe> thats up to you, really |
| 07:17:06 | <bwolfe> do you have a jira project for your module yet? |
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| 07:18:37 | <gauravpaliwal> bwolfe : https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-394 ? |
| 07:21:36 | <bwolfe> gauravpaliwal, no, I meant your own section. so TRUNK is a project. RESTWS is a project, etc. you would probably get FDBCK or FDBK or something. |
| 07:21:46 | <bwolfe> its where you create tickets and where people file bugs for your module |
| 07:21:58 | <bwolfe> you open a new ITSM ticket for michael to create the project for you |
| 07:22:13 | <gauravpaliwal> okeys, I will do it now |
| 07:30:52 | <gauravpaliwal> bwolfe : done , https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/ITSM-1337 |
| 07:31:33 | <bwolfe> perfect |
| 07:31:55 | <bwolfe> I will put my money on Michael choosing the shorter of the two suggestions. :-) |
| 07:33:05 | <gauravpaliwal> bwolfe : I have done just a ctrl-c-v of your adivce :P |
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| 07:39:49 | <gauravpaliwal> bwolfe : Just changing index to feedback_severity_id solved the problem now the saveOrUpdate and delete both working fine. :D |
| 07:40:46 | <bwolfe> :-) |
| 07:41:14 | <bwolfe> you might want to check your logs, I'm sure thats mentioned somewhere around there about an invalid sql statement |
| 07:44:32 | <gauravpaliwal> bwolfe : okey |
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| 09:09:14 | <tinashe> hi dkayiwa , would like to ask a few questions regarding xforms... |
| 09:09:21 | <dkayiwa> ok |
| 09:10:34 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, have just sent an email to you asking what i would like to ask here on chat if you have seen one... |
| 09:10:40 | <dkayiwa> ok |
| 09:11:05 | <dkayiwa> what do you mean by displaying an xform from the topmost? |
| 09:28:11 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, meaning displaying the top most part of an xform when displaying the xform on the patient dashboard... |
| 09:28:56 | <dkayiwa> did you try setting tab index for input widgets starting from top? |
| 09:30:47 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, yes, did a find and replace of TabIndex and just set that of top most widget to 0, and the rest 1, but those changes are not being saved on the layout.xml where upon saving xml changes... |
| 09:31:02 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, refreshing the xform restores values where all TabIndex="0" |
| 09:31:21 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, i.e. to TabIndex="0" |
| 09:31:27 | <dkayiwa> tab index should start from 1 |
| 09:31:48 | <dkayiwa> and is set using the widget properties pane |
| 09:32:50 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: New Changeset: OpenMRS (trunk): Renaming method to proper english in PersonAddress class - TRUNK-1846 <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OMRStrunk/~3/6XNej4ZIr54/OpenMRS> || New Changeset: OpenMRS (localize-setup-wizard): TRUNK-2055 : added licenzes headers to classes of *.web.filter.util package, added unit test for some filter util method... <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OMRStrunk/~3/tLU_4g3GxgE/OpenMRS> |
| 09:33:00 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, ok, what i would like to ask is a way which automatically sets that property into a sequence which displays the xform's top most section on the patient dashboard... |
| 09:33:41 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, and how to automatically vertically and horizontally align widgets on the xforms designer if any... |
| 09:33:52 | <dkayiwa> am not very sure for now, but i suspect it could be TabIndex |
| 09:34:16 | <dkayiwa> and if you prove that it is so, then i can work on automating it |
| 09:37:27 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, ok, so does that mean if the first widget on the xform has a TabIndex of 1, the rest should have a TabxIndex of Previous_TabIndex_Value +1... |
| 09:38:14 | <dkayiwa> yes |
| 09:38:57 | <dkayiwa> if that works, then automating it is very simple |
| 09:39:45 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, i am on a close deadline of a sprint, and would like to ask if there is any way to automate incremental indexing of widgets as in of the TabIndex property of vertical form widgets... |
| 09:40:29 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, then, if there is a way of collectively align widgets on the xform, both horizintally and vertically... |
| 09:40:42 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, +aligning... |
| 09:41:13 | <dkayiwa> is that about the second issue of your question? |
| 09:41:17 | <dkayiwa> or the first one? |
| 09:47:16 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, both since, if manual indexing i have a set of xforms to edit, and as for the second, manual alignment of widgets will be error prone... |
| 09:48:40 | <dkayiwa> if tab index works for you on the first form, then i can automate it |
| 09:49:52 | <dkayiwa> if it does not, that i do not waste efforts automating what does not work |
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| 09:52:35 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, ok...then, how can I collectively align widgets on the xform if there is any way to...if not will start manual editing... |
| 09:53:11 | <dkayiwa> what do u mean by collectively aligning? |
| 09:54:04 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, as in setting constant spacing between vertical widgets, and horizontal widgets where that apply, e.g. concept widget label and concept widget, and Yes and No radio buttons... |
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| 10:12:30 | <dkayiwa> hi tinashe |
| 10:22:41 | <tinashe> dkayiwa, will try use manual editing with aligning tools on the designer, and if any way of quickly setting respective TabIndexing properties for xform widgets on an xform, will need the how tos... |
| 10:27:56 | <pascal`> bwolfe_, do you know offhand how to get tomcat to dump the java opts it's using on startup? |
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| 10:28:36 | <bwolfe> pascal`, I just look at hte tomcat manager |
| 10:28:44 | <bwolfe> click on the "server" link somewhere in there and it shows you |
| 10:29:44 | <pascal`> ah, cool |
| 10:29:48 | <pascal`> thanks bwolfe++ |
| 10:33:57 | <pascal`> bwolfe, where do you usually put the JAVA_OPTS? |
| 10:34:39 | <pascal`> I exported the env variable and I still have: Free memory: 38.02 MB Total memory: 101.66 MB Max memory: 291.93 MB |
| 10:34:57 | <bwolfe> I put it into the catalina startup script |
| 10:35:11 | <bwolfe> you have to get it into the environment of the user running tomcat |
| 10:35:18 | <bwolfe> not sure how to do that for the tomcat user |
| 10:35:24 | <bwolfe> so I just modify the .sh file :-) |
| 10:35:28 | <bwolfe> brb |
| 10:35:59 | <pascal`> bwolfe, yeah that's what i do too |
| 10:36:11 | <pascal`> bwolfe, but i'm on ec2 and there's no catalina.sh |
| 10:36:14 | <pascal`> it's weird |
| 10:38:08 | <pascal`> the script in init.d is called some script in usr/sbin |
| 10:38:18 | <pascal`> not sure what kind of warped tomcat amazon likes to install |
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| 10:52:06 | <danielf`> pascal`, have you tried editing /etc/default/tomcat6? |
| 10:52:27 | <pascal`> danielf`, I just haxx0red the script in /usr/sbin |
| 10:52:36 | <pascal`> danielf`, tomcat has now bent to my will ^_^ |
| 10:53:02 | <danielf`> hehe nice (= |
| 10:54:02 | <pascal`> (= |
| 11:02:25 | <pascal`> bwolfe, have you had any experience rendered charts in birt on a headless *nix machine? |
| 11:03:08 | <bwolfe> I have no experience rendering charts period |
| 11:03:31 | <pascal`> Unfortunately, that is the incorrect answer. |
| 11:03:32 | <bwolfe> but if images are you issue, I remember there needing to be something done to the startup to tell the headless to work |
| 11:03:41 | <bwolfe> check out the idcards module documentation maybe |
| 11:03:56 | <pascal`> cool, I'm about to test something like that |
| 11:04:17 | <bwolfe> bbl |
| 11:04:33 | <pascal`> kk |
| 11:04:47 | <pascal`> bwolfe++ |
| 11:07:40 | <pascal`> for anyone who reads this later, you need to add "-Dprogram.name=birtviewer -Djava.awt.headless=true" to JAVA_OPTS |
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| 11:10:12 | <danielf`> pascal`++ |
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| 13:54:11 | <gauravpaliwal> bwolfe : Hi, I am unable to upload attachment at https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/archive/Setup+development+environment+for+mavenized+OpenMRS+Module+development any possible fix ? |
| 13:54:17 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8rpY> (at wiki.openmrs.org) |
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| 13:56:22 | <bwolfe> hmm |
| 13:56:29 | <bwolfe> is the attachment too large gauravpaliwal? |
| 13:56:32 | <bwolfe> or is it a permissions thing? |
| 13:58:42 | <downeym> I don't think you can upload anything into the old archive pages |
| 13:58:51 | <gauravpaliwal> okeys |
| 13:59:02 | <gauravpaliwal> bwolfe : it don't have any option to upload |
| 13:59:09 | <pascal`> hey downeym |
| 13:59:14 | <pascal`> how was the brickyard the other day? |
| 13:59:25 | <downeym> Hi pascal` and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
| 13:59:29 | <gauravpaliwal> downeyn : I created a subpage under a archieve |
| 13:59:38 | <downeym> pascal`: was a great event ... very very crowded and hot |
| 13:59:40 | <bwolfe> ah yes, I missed the "archive" part of that url |
| 13:59:57 | <pascal`> downeym, cool, I'd love to make it there on a race day sometime |
| 13:59:57 | <bwolfe> gauravpaliwal, so that page needs to be moved to the DOCS section somewhere |
| 14:00:08 | <downeym> what bwolfe said. :) |
| 14:00:44 | <downeym> pascal`: you'd enjoy it. although it took over 3 hours to get to the seats from the city center ... what normally takes 15 minutes :) |
| 14:01:07 | <gauravpaliwal> bwolfe : so, Should I create a page somewhere else and link it here |
| 14:05:04 | <downeym> gauravpaliwal: better to move it to the documentation space |
| 14:06:15 | <gauravpaliwal> downeym : so, should I move the whole page (including that to which I am linking) to document space? |
| 14:06:49 | <downeym> gauravpaliwal: yeah. you can find move in the "tools" menu in upper right |
| 14:07:14 | <gauravpaliwal> downeym : thanks |
| 14:07:25 | <downeym> gauravpaliwal: let me know if you run into any problems |
| 14:07:52 | <gauravpaliwal> downeym: okeys. |
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| 16:07:27 | <downeym> gauravpaliwal: still there? |
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| 16:08:57 | <downeym> gauravpaliwal: anyway, please try it again |
| 16:09:08 | <gauravpaliwal> downeym: hiya |
| 16:09:11 | <gauravpaliwal> yes |
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| 16:09:50 | <gauravpaliwal> downeym: thanks , working |
| 16:10:03 | <gauravpaliwal> downeym: I can now move it , thanks :) |
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| 16:28:13 | <downeym> gauravpaliwal: cool :) |
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| 16:57:35 | <gauravpaliwal> downeym : Done , moved https://wiki.openmrs.org/x/XQ8z , added a new section *Using Maven in Netbeans* which point to ( https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Developer+How-To+Use+Netbeans+Guide#DeveloperHow-ToUseNetbeansGuide-UsingMaveninNetbeans ) which is a page created by sunbiz and added new page : https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Setup+development+environment+for+mavenized+OpenMRS+Module+development |
| 16:57:41 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8rrQ> (at wiki.openmrs.org) |
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| 18:32:10 | <downeym> Hi mandric_ and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
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| 19:26:36 | <downeym> Hi poorroop and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
| 19:27:49 | <poorroop> hi .. I have a problem installing the openmsr locally i get error message http://pastebin.com/nwzBCgPT |
| 19:28:12 | <poorroop> can any one please let me know what is wrong? |
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| 19:28:40 | <downeym> Hi dave_r and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
| 19:28:52 | <downeym> poorroop: That is OpenEMR, we are OpenMRS, a different application. :) |
| 19:29:07 | <dave_r> Hi, I'm wondering if there is anyone around who might be able to chat about the new web services module? |
| 19:29:17 | <poorroop> :) |
| 19:29:22 | <poorroop> sorry |
| 19:29:26 | <downeym> poorroop: No problem :) |
| 19:29:42 | <downeym> dave_r: bwolfe or djazayeri may be around |
| 19:30:01 | <downeym> dave_r: Or otherwise just ask your question and someone will see it :) |
| 19:30:26 | <bwolfe> I'm not around |
| 19:30:46 | <bwolfe> the hot-off-the-presses web services module dave_r? |
| 19:30:52 | <dave_r> Ok, thanks. |
| 19:30:57 | <dave_r> Yes, |
| 19:31:27 | <dave_r> I'm wondering what format the payload should be sent in? is it xml? json? |
| 19:31:43 | <bwolfe> json for now |
| 19:31:52 | <bwolfe> xml can be added in later thanks to spring goodness |
| 19:33:22 | <dave_r> ok great. also I started looking at the code last week, and noticed that encounter did not contain observations. Will observations be added? Or did I miss/not understand something? |
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| 19:38:52 | <djazayeri> dave_r: encounter _will_ contain obs, but you're right, looking at the code it appears we haven't added this yet. (It should be a one-liner though.) |
| 19:39:20 | <djazayeri> the idea is that the default view of an encounter includes the minimal "ref" view of all its obs |
| 19:39:41 | <djazayeri> whereas the full representation will include the (larger) default view of its obs. |
| 20:10:34 | <dave_r> ok |
| 20:10:51 | <djazayeri> dave_r: do you have a particular use case? or just playing around? |
| 20:11:24 | <dave_r> at this point, mostly experimenting. i'm trying to use Mirth to call the web services |
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| 20:45:38 | <dave_r> thanks for the help |
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