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| 04:49:47 | <zubair> hello |
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| 06:01:40 | <emeka> I remember somebody telling me that the idgen module and xforms don't play well together, what's the deal there? |
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| 09:27:43 | <zubair> hellooooooo |
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| 13:08:22 | <cta> bwolfe: Hello, Mr. Ben Wolfe. |
| 13:08:32 | <bwolfe> hey |
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| 13:09:27 | <cta> Tell me please, whether I can to create complex patch for 1637 and 2023 tickets? |
| 13:10:14 | <cta> It will ne mach more easy to me considering with your last comments on bugtracker |
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| 13:16:40 | <cta> bwolfe: ?? |
| 13:17:25 | <bwolfe> what do you mean by "complex patch" ? |
| 13:17:30 | <bwolfe> !ticket TRUNK-1637 |
| 13:17:30 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Allow me to help you with that. More details on ticket TRUNK-1637 can be found at http://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-1637 |
| 13:17:59 | <bwolfe> !ticket TRUNK-2023 |
| 13:17:59 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Allow me to help you with that. More details on ticket TRUNK-2023 can be found at http://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-2023 |
| 13:19:09 | <cta> bwolfe: I meant that this patch will be contain solving of both this problem's |
| 13:20:21 | <bwolfe> ok |
| 13:20:32 | <bwolfe> you should just select only files that pertain to that fix |
| 13:20:36 | <bwolfe> do the files overlap? |
| 13:21:29 | <bwolfe> cta: when creating a patch you are able to de-select files that do not go into the patch |
| 13:21:50 | <cta> yes, I know this ))yes, all changes related to 2023 are in UpdateFilter also |
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| 13:22:43 | <cta> some changes related to 1637 are in UpdateFilter.java too |
| 13:25:28 | <cta> bwolfe: just for clarify - in patch 2023 will be changes of UpdateFilter.java, reviewwarnings.vm (new file) and reviewchanges.vm and within 1637 fill be changes from UpdateFilter.java, reviewwarnings.vm (new file) and DataBaseUpdater.java |
| 13:26:12 | <bwolfe> ah ok, so they overlap |
| 13:26:34 | <bwolfe> it is not ideal to have the overlap, but I suppose it is ok. just mention it in the comment or patch filename |
| 13:26:49 | <cta> yes, but not entirely |
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| 14:47:15 | <downeym> Hi slackell and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
| 14:47:29 | <slackell> hi |
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| 14:51:33 | <downeym> Hi emeka1 and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
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| 15:11:50 | <emeka1> hey downeym |
| 15:12:14 | <emeka1> got a question, now that theres's some people in here |
| 15:12:29 | <downeym> emeka1: Sure |
| 15:12:38 | <emeka1> somebody had mentioned not being able to use idgen and xforms, why? |
| 15:12:58 | <emeka1> I'd like to use xforms to replace the add patient form, but also want autoincrementing patient IDs |
| 15:13:04 | <emeka1> even random if possible |
| 15:13:18 | * downeym looks at dkayiwa for possible answer |
| 15:13:29 | <dkayiwa> :) |
| 15:14:20 | <dkayiwa> emaka1: by patient IDs, do you mean patient identifier? |
| 15:14:27 | <emeka1> exactly |
| 15:14:45 | <emeka1> i've renamed my openmrs identifier to simply patient id |
| 15:14:54 | <dkayiwa> ok |
| 15:15:22 | <dkayiwa> how does the idgen module interact with the standard patient page to generate the identifiers |
| 15:15:23 | <dkayiwa> ? |
| 15:15:57 | <emeka1> no idea, i never got to use it, i just started creating my xform patient registration form and wanted am looking to implement idgen |
| 15:16:13 | <emeka1> besides setting up the local generator and enabling it I'm wondering if there's anythign I have to do to make it work |
| 15:16:18 | <emeka1> because it's not doing anything at the moment |
| 15:17:56 | <dkayiwa> from the user's perspective, how does the idgen module interact with the default patient page? |
| 15:18:16 | <dkayiwa> Does it just auto fill the patient identifier? or something else? |
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| 15:19:45 | <emeka1> I'd like it to autofill the patient identifier yes |
| 15:20:09 | <emeka1> but I don't know how to accomplish that |
| 15:20:23 | <dkayiwa> ok, i will look into it this evening |
| 15:20:39 | <emeka1> appreciate it, i'll be around |
| 15:20:45 | <dkayiwa> ok |
| 15:21:39 | <emeka1> is there a chat log of this channel online anywhere? |
| 15:21:53 | <dkayiwa> yes |
| 15:21:58 | <umashanthi> !logs |
| 15:21:58 | <OpenMRSBot> umashanthi: "logs" --- The OpenMRS IRC logs are publicly displayed online: http://dev.openmrs.org/irclogs |
| 15:22:34 | <emeka1> awesome |
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| 15:25:13 | <emeka1> so this is what I was wondering abotu dkayiwa, bwolfe said: |
| 15:25:16 | <emeka1> <bwolfe> and the xforms module will let you create a new create patient screen (although you can't use both xforms and idgen) |
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| 15:26:26 | <dkayiwa> ok |
| 15:28:32 | <emeka1> so i'm wondering if that is in fact the case, and if there is anyway to still achieve the same goal |
| 15:28:52 | <dkayiwa> yes that is what am going to look into this evening |
| 15:30:01 | <emeka1> you're the man |
| 15:30:05 | <emeka1> or woman |
| 15:30:45 | <dkayiwa> :D |
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| 15:41:44 | * emeka1 shakes fist at this shaky school wireless netowrk |
| 15:41:55 | <downeym> sounds like IU :) |
| 15:42:14 | <emeka1> lol i'm at Case Western, usually it's decent, but in the lecture hall it's a disaster |
| 15:42:45 | <downeym> yeah, they tend to fail under heavy load |
| 15:43:08 | <emeka1> at least as maintaining persistent connections is concerned |
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| 15:59:39 | <downeym> Hi danielts and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
| 15:59:51 | <danielts> hello! |
| 16:00:49 | <danielts> I'm completely new to openmrs, and have some pretty general questions about implementation. Does anybody have a minute to help me out? |
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| 16:01:34 | <downeym> danielts: go ahead with your question, we'll do our best. :) |
| 16:03:00 | <surangak> hello ppl |
| 16:03:08 | <surangak> good morning / evening / night |
| 16:03:23 | <danielts> Ok! So I've been brough onboard a project at a local teaching hospital's hiv care unit to help modernize their patient database. It's about 10 years old and was built on access. I'm considering rebuilding it from scratch and stumbled upon openmrs as an interesting candidate ... |
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| 16:04:10 | <danielts> im' a bit concerned about a couple of things though |
| 16:05:11 | <danielts> like the rather sparse documentation for example. Have people documented their 'case studies' implementing openmrs ? |
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| 16:19:52 | <downeym> danielts Sounds a lot like how OpenMRS was originally developed at AMPATH. |
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| 16:23:10 | <downeym> Hi Suneeth and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
| 16:28:04 | <downeym> danielts: There are some case studies out there, but some are less complete than others |
| 16:30:02 | <bwolfe> danielts: we've asked a few of the bigger users that we know about to do just that kind of documentation recently. (but more focusing on integration points) |
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| 16:31:08 | <danielts> I know how writing documentation can be pretty time consuming :) Can you point me to some of those more complete case studies? |
| 16:31:29 | <bwolfe> downeym: can you give automatic voice to mseaton ? or does he have to be online for you to do that? |
| 16:32:04 | <bwolfe> danielts: the ones we requested haven't been posted yet. I know I saw a full on pdf one time from a hospital in Tanzania. it was their doc they gave to new clinics that were being opened with openmrs |
| 16:33:10 | <downeym> bwolfe: gotta register his nick first |
| 16:34:39 | <downeym> bwolfe: once registered he doesn't need to be online for us to set his flags |
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| 16:35:51 | <downeym> Hi djazayeri and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
| 16:36:08 | <ashishmittal> !trivialtickets |
| 16:36:08 | <OpenMRSBot> ashishmittal: "trivialtickets" --- http://dev.openmrs.org/report/16 |
| 16:37:29 | <danielts> Thanks for the info, i'll keep looking! |
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| 16:45:58 | <bwolfe> ashishmittal: hmm, we need to update that link I guess! |
| 16:46:32 | <bwolfe> !forget trivialtickets |
| 16:46:32 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:46:42 | <bwolfe> !learn trivial tickets as http://tickets.openmrs.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hide&requestId=10068 |
| 16:46:42 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:46:46 | <bwolfe> ok, updated |
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| 16:47:47 | <ashishmittal> bwolfe, thanks |
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| 17:27:57 | <suho> hi bwolfe |
| 17:28:51 | <bwolfe> hey |
| 17:29:17 | <suho> If you find some time please have a look at TRUNK-2008 (Add a basic OpenmrsSerializer to core) and TRUNK-368 ( Define Address Formats Outside of Openmrs-Servlet ) |
| 17:29:38 | <suho> bwolfe, no hurry |
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| 17:30:38 | <bwolfe> suho: don't worry its on my list |
| 17:30:44 | <bwolfe> all tickets with attachments are on my list |
| 17:30:55 | <suho> bwolfe, thanks :) |
| 17:37:25 | <surangak> @bwolfe wonder if there is any way to configure our jira settings so that we get a notification when you comment on a submitted ticket ? |
| 17:38:10 | <bwolfe> surangak: you def should get notifications |
| 17:38:13 | <bwolfe> you should get emails |
| 17:38:22 | <bwolfe> if you don't, check your settings |
| 17:38:26 | <bwolfe> *settings in jira |
| 17:39:07 | <surangak> I was having th feeling that something must be wrong with my jira account :) |
| 17:39:30 | <surangak> ill take another look see at it .... must be the settings.... |
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| 18:16:40 | <kmit> hi |
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| 18:17:19 | <rahul> hi |
| 18:17:23 | <rahul> nribeka: |
| 18:18:26 | <rahul> h wyclif |
| 18:20:12 | <downeym> !introtickets |
| 18:20:12 | <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "introtickets" --- http://tickets.openmrs.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hide&requestId=10068 |
| 18:20:20 | <downeym> !trivialtickets |
| 18:20:20 | <OpenMRSBot> downeym: Error: "trivialtickets" is not a valid command. |
| 18:20:26 | <downeym> ! trivialtickets |
| 18:20:26 | <OpenMRSBot> downeym: Error: "trivialtickets" is not a valid command. |
| 18:20:32 | <downeym> hrm |
| 18:22:35 | <wyclif> hi rahul |
| 18:23:34 | <rahul> hey regarding my contact_person_information module i have come up with some design screens also |
| 18:23:43 | <rahul> should i post them ? |
| 18:28:21 | <nribeka> sure |
| 18:28:40 | <nribeka> but gsoc is not officially started yet. what do you think downeym? |
| 18:29:31 | <downeym> rahul: If you're planning on applying, you should make sure you've done the suggested items at http://go.openmrs.org/soc2011 and focus on making your application good |
| 18:30:18 | <downeym> rahul: You will notice that we don't ask you to start on the project yet. :) |
| 18:30:37 | <rahul> ya sure |
| 18:31:27 | <rahul> but before submitting the project to google i can atleast draft the propsal |
| 18:32:28 | <downeym> rahul: The questions we ask on the application are listed at https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/RES/Summer+Of+Code+2011#SummerOfCode2011-Applicationquestions |
| 18:32:35 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8g1b> (at wiki.openmrs.org) |
| 18:34:09 | <wyclif> rahul, then your draft should be in the proposal |
| 18:34:25 | <rahul> k :0 |
| 18:34:41 | <downeym> :) |
| 18:37:53 | * downeym steps away for cocoa tea |
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| 18:44:09 | <bryq> Hi downeym. Do you want GSoC student's application exactly fit the template (I mean "Application questions" on this page: https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/RES/Summer+Of+Code+2011 ) or can I write it in my own way. Of course I'll give answers to all those questions, but in other form. |
| 18:44:10 | <bwolfe> cocoa tea? |
| 18:44:10 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8d5f> (at wiki.openmrs.org) |
| 18:45:07 | <bwolfe> bryq: when running through 100 applications, its easier if you have at some point in your app the explicit questions/answers to that set instead of requiring the mentors to dig through 10 paragraphs of text |
| 18:45:17 | <robbyoconnor> hey bwolfe =) |
| 18:45:28 | <nribeka> bryq, the template will give you some guideline |
| 18:46:00 | <bwolfe> hi r0bby |
| 18:46:18 | <robbyoconnor> I see dual submission for Messaging Module |
| 18:46:38 | <bryq> nribeka, bwolfe: Ok, so I'll use the template |
| 18:47:07 | <bwolfe> robbyoconnor: where/when/who/what/why/how? |
| 18:48:14 | <robbyoconnor> bwolfe: melange |
| 18:48:41 | <bwolfe> ok, tell downeym when he comes back. its admin'ing gsoc for us |
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| 18:49:11 | <robbyoconnor> on the upside I see one superb application |
| 18:49:13 | <robbyoconnor> :) |
| 18:49:21 | <robbyoconnor> didn't look too deeply at the other :) |
| 18:49:50 | <nribeka> bryq, you still need to expand it and explain your idea, how you will tackle the issue, show us your level of understanding of the problem statement :) |
| 18:50:32 | <suho> hi |
| 18:51:15 | <suho> I'm in the process of creating a OpenMRS Google group for Sri Lanka |
| 18:51:56 | <aja> suho,:+1 |
| 18:52:19 | <suho> expecting all your support |
| 18:53:15 | <bwolfe> how many sir lankans are in here now? |
| 18:53:41 | <suho> now only myself and aja |
| 18:53:46 | <bryq> nribeka: I know ;-) I will answer to the template's questions and add some specific informations about Metadata Sharing module (which I apply for) |
| 18:54:58 | <suho> its 12.30 midnight now, I think all others have gone asleep |
| 18:55:12 | <suho> :) |
| 19:00:39 | <rahul> bye all feeling too sleepy zzzzzzzzz |
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| 20:27:30 | <dmexs> bwolfe: still there? |
| 20:27:53 | <bwolfe> no, not there |
| 20:27:59 | <bwolfe> I was there. but now I'm here |
| 20:28:05 | <bwolfe> :-) |
| 20:28:57 | <dmexs> lol, did you see my question about xforms and idgen? |
| 20:29:44 | <bwolfe> today? I did not. |
| 20:29:48 | <bwolfe> where/when? |
| 20:30:01 | <dmexs> i was talking to dkayiwa |
| 20:30:15 | <dmexs> you mentioned before that xforms and idgen can't be used together? |
| 20:30:41 | <dmexs> modules that is |
| 20:31:12 | <bwolfe> in general they can. however, if you enable the xforms custom create patient page the idgen module won't have a place to hook in anymore |
| 20:31:31 | <dmexs> this is emeka btw, ohh... |
| 20:31:43 | <downeym> dmexs: are you emeka? |
| 20:31:47 | <dmexs> the create patient form is really the only reason i wanted to use xforms |
| 20:31:52 | <dmexs> downeym: yes |
| 20:31:52 | <downeym> :) |
| 20:32:04 | <downeym> bwolfe: https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/IRC/2011-03-29#151238 |
| 20:32:07 | <dmexs> i usually use dmexs as an alias, just forgot |
| 20:32:09 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8g5N> (at wiki.openmrs.org) |
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| 20:33:55 | <bwolfe> !forget logs |
| 20:33:55 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:34:00 | <bwolfe> !learn logs as https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/IRC/IRC+Logs |
| 20:34:00 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:34:05 | <bwolfe> thanks downeym |
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| 20:34:49 | <bwolfe> dmexs: I think you're out of luck. you might petition that an integration between the two be put in. |
| 20:36:19 | <dmexs> damn |
| 20:36:43 | <dmexs> is there any other way to modify the create patient form? |
| 20:37:08 | <dmexs> or will mrngen work, even though i couldnt figure it out |
| 20:37:42 | <dmexs> all i need is a sequential ptient id |
| 20:37:56 | * bwolfe read through the logs |
| 20:38:08 | <bwolfe> dmexs: dkayiwa is daniel kayiwa...a man. :-) |
| 20:38:19 | <dmexs> lol k |
| 20:38:38 | <bwolfe> dmexs: sequential with no check digit?? |
| 20:38:51 | <bwolfe> https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Check+Digit+Algorithm |
| 20:38:54 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8g5i> (at wiki.openmrs.org) |
| 20:41:30 | <dmexs> matte of fact doesnt even have to be sequential i just want it to generate and input a patient identifier upon patient creation |
| 20:42:35 | <dmexs> that way the staff has a number they can use to refer to a patient by that they don't have to come up with |
| 20:51:39 | <bwolfe> dmexs: we use a list of identifiers that registration clerks choose from |
| 20:51:46 | <bwolfe> each site gets a list of ids from central |
| 20:51:56 | <bwolfe> each clerk gets a set of ids from their site |
| 20:52:06 | <bwolfe> that way all clerks at all sites are giving out different ids |
| 20:52:19 | <bwolfe> (but we also use disconnected reg clerks) |
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| 21:01:46 | <suho> is Mark Goodrich around ? |
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| 21:09:42 | <bwolfe> mark doesn't hang out in here suho |
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| 21:21:27 | <suho> bwolfe, thanks for the info |
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| 21:22:41 | <suho> djazayeri, the issue Title: The web interface needs to support time obs when adding a new observation - TRUNK-363 |
| 21:22:56 | <djazayeri> suho, yes? |
| 21:23:04 | <suho> djazayeri, has a code review http://source.openmrs.org/cru/CR-TRUNK-260 |
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| 21:24:10 | <suho> djazayeri, that's waiting for your review for more than a month |
| 21:24:10 | <djazayeri> okay, I'll take a look at it when I get chance. Thanks! |
| 21:24:48 | <suho> djazayeri, Thank you |
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| 21:59:03 | <cta> bwolfe: Hi, Mr. Ben Wolfe. Are you present? |
| 22:00:41 | <cta> wyclif: Good time of the day, Mr. Wyclif. I've already reattached all missing patches (now of root directory, as you sad) |
| 22:07:33 | <wyclif> cool |
| 22:07:45 | <wyclif> i will look at them, thanks |
| 22:08:22 | <wyclif> i will look at them, thanks! |
| 22:09:36 | <cta> wyclif: is it for me? |
| 22:10:17 | <cta> wyclif: if yes, so you welcome)) |
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| 22:15:02 | <wyclif> cta, yes, i was thanking you |
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| 22:20:28 | <cta> wyclif: )) you welcome. Mr Wyclif, have you read my post to openmrs mailing list that is called My investigation of âLocalize messages in the initialization and update wizardâ project by chornytaras@gmail.com. |
| 22:20:52 | <cta> wyclif: I would like to know your opinion about that |
| 22:24:19 | <wyclif> did you add the comment to the ticket? |
| 22:24:46 | <wyclif> cta, i would see it if you added it to the ticket |
| 22:24:58 | <wyclif> cta, you can address me as just Wyclif |
| 22:25:40 | <dkayiwa> :D |
| 22:25:47 | <cta> no problem, Wyclif |
| 22:26:17 | <wyclif> ok |
| 22:26:32 | <wyclif> that is better cta |
| 22:30:57 | <cta> sorry, wyclif, you meant TICKET-2055, or another? I dont undersatnd |
| 22:32:22 | <wyclif> i meant it is better when you address me as wyclif |
| 22:34:32 | <cta> wyclif: yes, I understand it, wyclif. Despite, I was asking you about have you read my post? |
| 22:37:32 | <wyclif> not yet |
| 22:37:40 | <wyclif> but i will later |
| 22:37:53 | <wyclif> i have been a little busy with some othe tasks |
| 22:38:12 | <cta> ok)) |
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| 22:57:10 | <dmexs> bwolfe: so at your implementation, clerks assign ids to patients manually |
| 23:32:30 | <djazayeri> dmexs, I don't know exactly what the AMPATH implementation does, but probably the majority of OpenMRS implementations assign ids manually (which usually means via an existing paper-based system) |
| 23:33:16 | <djazayeri> The idgen module (and its predecessor whose name I forget) take care of this automatically. But it's often a policy issue, rather than a technical one. |
| 23:34:58 | <dkayiwa> djazayeri: can i assume that RPT-176 is already assigned? |
| 23:35:37 | <djazayeri> dkayiwa, yes, it's in code review |
| 23:35:45 | <dkayiwa> ok |
| 23:35:48 | <djazayeri> (rather, it's already been through code review) |
| 23:36:04 | <djazayeri> was that the other ticket I had laid out for you? |
| 23:36:11 | <dkayiwa> yes |
| 23:37:25 | <djazayeri> how about REPORT-84. |
| 23:37:31 | <dkayiwa> ok |
| 23:38:01 | <djazayeri> It's in Design Review, but you could investigate it by running it on a clean database, and commenting on the ticket exactly what bad stuff gets created. |
| 23:38:22 | <dkayiwa> ok |
| 23:38:45 | <djazayeri> Another option is REPORT-166 |
| 23:38:52 | <dkayiwa> ok |
| 23:39:20 | <djazayeri> your call. |
| 23:39:30 | <dmexs> thanks djazayeri, well perhaps i'll just see if I can hack something in to xforms |
| 23:40:29 | <djazayeri> dmexs, if your goal is to have identifiers assigned automatically when patients are created, I would recommend the idgen module. If you need them assigned when a particular form is filled out, that's trickier. |
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