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| 00:40:32 | <DavidMR> deadpool: I'm so sorry deadpool, I was in a hurry and I didn't finish what I did |
| 00:47:20 | <DavidMR> can someone help me again??? |
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| 01:26:02 | <deadpool> bwolfe: is there a way to troubleshoot hibernate? |
| 01:28:27 | <bwolfe> deadpool: usually |
| 01:28:37 | <bwolfe> depends what the error is |
| 01:29:32 | <deadpool> bwolfe: still getting that error that i showed you i tested to see if the pojo was all right and meet all the criteria that should be inputed before inserting into the database and it is but i still get a hibernate error? |
| 01:29:46 | <deadpool> http://pastebin.com/cr3RgES3 |
| 01:32:34 | <bwolfe> you could turn on hibernate queries |
| 01:32:38 | <bwolfe> theres a runtime property for it |
| 01:33:22 | <deadpool> openmrs.runtime or a hibernate specific one? |
| 01:34:22 | <bwolfe> openmrs |
| 01:34:26 | <bwolfe> see the wiki page about it |
| 01:34:30 | <bwolfe> !runtimeproperties |
| 01:34:30 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "runtimeproperties" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Overriding_OpenMRS_Default_Properties |
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| 01:34:39 | <deadpool> gotcha |
| 01:35:03 | <deadpool> bwolfe: uhh... getting a page not found |
| 01:35:11 | <deadpool> nvming i got it |
| 01:41:19 | <deadpool> bwolfe: what do i need to write to turn on hibernate queries? |
| 01:41:39 | <bwolfe> isn't there a show_query or something? |
| 01:41:50 | <bwolfe> set that to true (or uncomment it) and restart openmrs |
| 01:42:47 | <chopin> hi ppl |
| 01:42:57 | <chopin> show_sql |
| 01:42:59 | <chopin> i think |
| 01:43:25 | <chopin> <property name="hibernate.show.sql" value="true"/> |
| 01:44:03 | <deadpool> chopin: that seems like that should be in an xml file |
| 01:44:14 | <chopin> deadpool: true |
| 01:44:25 | <chopin> i think we have a hibernate.cfg.xml file |
| 01:44:35 | * chopin fires up eclipse |
| 01:45:19 | <chopin> deadpool: ah that's just for mapping files |
| 01:45:21 | <chopin> one moment please |
| 01:45:27 | <deadpool> chopin: np |
| 01:45:50 | <chopin> hibernate.show_sql=false in hibernate.default.properties |
| 01:46:06 | <chopin> api/src/main/resources/hibernate.default.properties |
| 01:46:12 | <chopin> bam |
| 01:46:59 | <chopin> deadpool: ----^ |
| 01:48:28 | <deadpool> chopin: thanks compiling and deploying now i assume turning that on will show the queries in the console? |
| 01:52:26 | <chopin> in theory |
| 01:52:28 | <chopin> :-) |
| 01:53:38 | <deadpool> hmm i did that and it didn't show anything |
| 01:53:58 | <chopin> deadpool: may need to look deeper where those properties are picked up |
| 01:55:40 | <deadpool> gotcha |
| 02:00:00 | <chopin> bwolfe: how do we change !runtimeproperties? |
| 02:00:09 | <chopin> (the page has changed urls) |
| 02:00:32 | <bwolfe> !forget runtimeproperties |
| 02:00:32 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:00:39 | <bwolfe> whats the new url? |
| 02:00:57 | <bwolfe> chopin ^^ |
| 02:02:23 | <deadpool> chopin: there is also another hibernate.default.properties in api/target does that count? |
| 02:02:27 | <deadpool> it is still false there |
| 02:02:34 | <chopin> bwolfe: https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Overriding+OpenMRS+Default+Runtime+Properties |
| 02:02:40 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8c91> (at wiki.openmrs.org) |
| 02:02:49 | <chopin> deadpool: ---^ that's the right page |
| 02:02:50 | <bwolfe> !learn runtimeproperties as https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Overriding+OpenMRS+Default+Runtime+Properties |
| 02:02:50 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: The operation succeeded. |
| 02:02:57 | <bwolfe> chopin: there, thats how you change it. :-) |
| 02:03:01 | <chopin> mmkay |
| 02:03:07 | <chopin> wiki-- for not forwarding old URLs |
| 02:03:13 | <deadpool> chopin: yeah i found it out later |
| 02:03:31 | <chopin> k |
| 02:06:21 | <deadpool> chopin: you have to change the properties in the api/target |
| 02:06:24 | <deadpool> it works there |
| 02:10:12 | <chopin> oO ok |
| 02:10:13 | <chopin> cool |
| 02:10:35 | <chopin> deadpool: did you run as |
| 02:10:45 | <chopin> because that may be why the target wasn't updated |
| 02:10:46 | <chopin> :-/ |
| 02:11:10 | <deadpool> chopin: i did not i just did a sudo mvn:install and then a run |
| 02:11:20 | <deadpool> totally forgot about the clean |
| 02:11:32 | <deadpool> thanks though |
| 02:11:42 | <deadpool> will do that |
| 02:12:08 | <deadpool> so now it shows the query but how do you interpret it? |
| 02:14:06 | <chopin> rrright, it's a little mashed up but you should be able to understand it |
| 02:14:09 | <chopin> pastebin it? |
| 02:17:55 | <deadpool> chopin:http://pastebin.com/EcJULcUC |
| 02:18:49 | <chopin> well, that totally makes sense |
| 02:18:58 | <chopin> which query are you looking for? |
| 02:19:31 | <deadpool> well i found what i was looking for and i know what it is getting updated and stuff but they don't put into the info i've entered |
| 02:19:47 | <chopin> deadpool: oh, you mean the actual parameters |
| 02:19:50 | <deadpool> yeah |
| 02:19:53 | <chopin> hmm |
| 02:20:04 | <chopin> not sure if there's a way to get that |
| 02:20:15 | <chopin> might be able to watch mysql somehow |
| 02:20:17 | <chopin> like w/ innotop |
| 02:20:20 | <deadpool> well fair enough i figured out kind the problem |
| 02:20:29 | <chopin> but ... if it's a fast query it'll zip by |
| 02:20:39 | <deadpool> hibernate is doing an update when it should be doing an insert for some reason |
| 02:21:03 | <deadpool> and since there is nothing to update it is giving me the error so now i need to figure out why it is calling an update |
| 02:21:07 | <chopin> hmm, are you calling saveOrUpdate(obj)? |
| 02:21:16 | <deadpool> chopin: yeah i did |
| 02:21:55 | <chopin> can you paste your code? |
| 02:21:58 | <chopin> pastebin that is |
| 02:22:01 | <deadpool> sure |
| 02:26:25 | <deadpool> chopin: http://pastebin.com/VgLQ3vpY |
| 02:27:57 | <chopin> deadpool: sorry, i mean the SurveyServiceImpl or HibernateSurveyDAO |
| 02:28:05 | <chopin> the code calling the hibernate method |
| 02:28:11 | <deadpool> chopin: sure |
| 02:32:36 | <deadpool> chopin: here is my SurveyService.java http://pastebin.com/cAT4JxeE my SurveyServiceImpl.java http://pastebin.com/az2N0qax |
| 02:33:16 | <chopin> haha sorry deadpool ... need the HibernateSurveyDAO |
| 02:34:56 | <deadpool> chopin: my HibernateSurveyDAO.java http://pastebin.com/GDYx52CK |
| 02:38:10 | <chopin> deadpool: can you guarantee that the temp SurveyDetails object in SurveyDetailsController#onSubmit() does not have an assigned id? |
| 02:38:28 | <chopin> if it has an id, hibernate will try to update it |
| 02:38:32 | <chopin> that's all i've got :-/ |
| 02:38:41 | <deadpool> that is what i was thinking to so right now i am checking it out |
| 02:38:41 | * chopin gets something to munch on |
| 02:38:45 | <chopin> ok |
| 02:38:51 | <deadpool> chopin: thanks for your help really appreciate it |
| 02:43:11 | <chopin> yup np |
| 02:44:10 | <bwolfe> chopin: good news! the carrying cases WERE for 12 settings. phew! |
| 02:44:24 | <chopin> oh hahaha yesssssssss |
| 02:44:37 | <chopin> btw who would spend $60 to store 12 settings? |
| 02:45:37 | <chopin> unfortunately our china is secured with newspaper :-. |
| 02:49:46 | * chopin folds diapers |
| 02:49:59 | <chopin> (clean) |
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| 13:50:11 | <jswalton> @bwolfe Im working with bobby strickland on the preferred identifier problem. I was just wondering what was the preferred method for just producing a general rejection ? |
| 13:52:09 | <bwolfe> pretty sure its just reject without a property param |
| 13:52:11 | <bwolfe> just give the reason |
| 13:53:33 | <jswalton> ok I see what you're saying...Just read Spring API |
| 13:53:42 | <jswalton> Thx |
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| 13:58:00 | <downeym> !devmtg |
| 13:58:00 | <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer meeting Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern - http://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Weekly+Developer+Meeting |
| 13:59:23 | <jswalton> Now should we create a general rejection "message" |
| 13:59:28 | <r-friedman> downeym: +1 for the effort to overcome the 15 minute late start phenomenon |
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| 14:00:03 | <downeym> r-friedman: Futility doesn't preclude effort :) |
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| 14:11:15 | <bwolfe> !devmtg |
| 14:11:16 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer meeting Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern - http://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Weekly+Developer+Meeting |
| 14:11:34 | <chopin> pascal`++ |
| 14:11:36 | <chopin> coffee++ |
| 14:11:57 | <pascal`> chopin++ |
| 14:12:00 | <pascal`> coffee++ |
| 14:12:20 | <pascal`> dietcoke-=1e100 |
| 14:12:21 | * r-friedman begs for coffee |
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| 14:13:27 | <chopin> r-friedman: C8H10N4O2 |
| 14:13:55 | * r-friedman activates molecular synthesizer |
| 14:15:48 | <chopin> heheh |
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| 14:17:04 | <bwolfe> http://tickets.openmrs.org |
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| 15:01:53 | <downeym> Hi mugii and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
| 15:02:14 | <mugii> Hi!! Thankyou |
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| 15:11:23 | <r-friedman> smart what? |
| 15:17:10 | <bwolfe> http://smartplatforms.org |
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| 15:47:22 | <downeym> Hi wyclif and welcome to the #openmrs IRC channel. |
| 15:50:45 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: New Changeset: OpenMRS (trunk): TRUNK-2117 - fixed user and banner bars to enable links <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OMRStrunk/~3/qgXuwGCcs-I/OpenMRS> |
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| 15:59:20 | <r-friedman> bwolfe: gotta go, got another meeting, i'll try to meet you here after 1:30 |
| 15:59:50 | <bwolfe> r-friedman: ok |
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| 16:34:02 | <suho> hi bwolfe |
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| 17:13:31 | <jswalton> @bwolfe for the preferred identifier problem should we create a new error message such as "error.preferredIdentifier" that says "Preferred Identifier Required" or should we just use error.general? |
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| 17:47:23 | <gautami> hi bwolfe |
| 17:48:14 | <gautami> is mike seaton around |
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| 18:10:06 | <jswalton> bwolfe are you around? |
| 18:15:04 | <gautami> i missed the devlopers call today |
| 18:15:28 | <bwolfe> gautami: mike doesn't hang out in here very often |
| 18:15:32 | <bwolfe> jswalton: am now |
| 18:16:56 | <gautami> hey ben |
| 18:17:05 | <gautami> i just missed the call today |
| 18:17:20 | <gautami> i hope the global property project was not discussed |
| 18:17:42 | <gautami> if u r free bwolfe |
| 18:17:42 | <gautami> just a few questions |
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| 18:18:31 | <bwolfe> gautami: check the notes, it wasn't really |
| 18:18:59 | <gautami> ok bwolfe |
| 18:20:03 | <gautami> no i have gone through the project description and have understood the attributeTypeformcontroller |
| 18:20:50 | <gautami> i am now actually creating a page for all the predefined types for fieldGen to play with it a bit |
| 18:21:19 | <gautami> i think i figured it how to invoke it ;) bwolfe |
| 18:21:49 | <gautami> but just not much sure with the parameter attrinbute playing with it right now bwolfe |
| 18:23:07 | <bwolfe> ok |
| 18:23:12 | <bwolfe> let me know if you have a question... |
| 18:23:22 | <gautami> in an earlier version I created a type for concept as an element i got a concept selector button |
| 18:23:27 | <bwolfe> !bwolfesays |
| 18:23:27 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to |
| 18:23:30 | <bwolfe> !bwolfealsosays |
| 18:23:30 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "bwolfealsosays" --- To greatly increase your chances of getting accepted by openmrs you should demonstrate your knowledge/skills in both java and potentially openmrs. The best way to do that is to finish a few small tickets. Type !trivialtickets and !introtickets for links to some that we have defined. |
| 18:23:41 | <bwolfe> suho ^^ |
| 18:23:57 | <suho> hi bwolfe |
| 18:24:19 | <gautami> but now i downloaded the latest version n when i create a type concept a text field comes |
| 18:24:24 | <gautami> is it working correctly |
| 18:24:33 | <gautami> in my system??? |
| 18:24:57 | <gautami> demo server gets a selector n local system gets a text box |
| 18:26:00 | <suho> bwolfe, I have added a patch to https://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-368 |
| 18:26:51 | <suho> and also updated the wiki https://wiki.openmrs.org/display/docs/Administering+Address+Templates |
| 18:26:55 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8cEb> (at wiki.openmrs.org) |
| 18:27:15 | <bwolfe> gautami: yes, it has changed in 1.7 (demo) vs 1.8+ (trunk) |
| 18:27:30 | <bwolfe> suho: ok, I'll have a look at those soon (hopefully) |
| 18:27:39 | <suho> bwolfe, great |
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| 18:30:09 | <gautami> i have also solved a bug 290 |
| 18:30:24 | <gautami> and currently doing 1795 |
| 18:30:30 | <r-friedman> bwolfe: hi ben, got yr ears on? |
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| 18:33:08 | <rahul> hi all |
| 18:33:16 | <bwolfe> !#290 |
| 18:33:16 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "#290" is not a valid command. |
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| 18:33:19 | <bwolfe> #290 |
| 18:33:21 | <bwolfe> !290 |
| 18:33:21 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "290" is not a valid command. |
| 18:33:28 | <bwolfe> !ticket:290 |
| 18:33:28 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "ticket:290" is not a valid command. |
| 18:33:30 | <bwolfe> hmm |
| 18:33:33 | <bwolfe> !ticket 290 |
| 18:33:33 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Allow me to help you with that. More details on ticket 290 can be found at http://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/290 |
| 18:33:41 | <bwolfe> ah, there we go |
| 18:33:47 | <rahul> r-friedman: |
| 18:33:52 | <rahul> hi |
| 18:33:53 | <bwolfe> !refer gautami [ticket 1795] |
| 18:33:53 | * OpenMRSBot refers gautami to Allow me to help you with that. More details on ticket 1795 can be found at http://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/1795 |
| 18:34:03 | <r-friedman> hi rahul |
| 18:34:05 | <bwolfe> gautami: helps if you link to the tickets...saves people key presses. :-) |
| 18:34:14 | <bwolfe> r-friedman: at least one of htem is on |
| 18:34:26 | <gautami> oh ok |
| 18:34:33 | <r-friedman> them? |
| 18:34:40 | <rahul> i received your mail |
| 18:35:03 | <r-friedman> rahul, are you diptanu? |
| 18:35:37 | <bwolfe> I think diptanu is deadpool, no? (not here) |
| 18:36:04 | <r-friedman> so "them" is those people from whom we expected comments? |
| 18:36:33 | <gautami> no |
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| 18:36:56 | <bwolfe> r-friedman: "them" == my ears |
| 18:37:02 | <DavidMR> hello everyone! |
| 18:37:15 | <rahul> no i am rahul akula for contact person information |
| 18:37:23 | <r-friedman> bwolfe: so now maybe your hat will stop falling over your face |
| 18:37:46 | <gautami> this time there are so many applicants applying for openmrs |
| 18:38:01 | <gautami> openmrs is a hot favourite i guess ;) |
| 18:38:16 | <r-friedman> sorry rahul, i am confused this afternoon (this morning and the last 40 years as well) |
| 18:38:44 | <r-friedman> gautami: it's because we have chcks |
| 18:39:06 | <DavidMR> hi, it's me again, i need some help... again |
| 18:39:42 | <r-friedman> bwolfe: i was about to write diptanu but forgot what issue he was supposed to share experience on |
| 18:39:43 | <bwolfe> gautami: we received the third most applications last year. right ahead some of the "bigger" names! |
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| 18:40:06 | <bwolfe> r-friedman: isn't he working with motech? its how they integrated other systems to openmrs |
| 18:40:11 | <bwolfe> just their "story" in a sense |
| 18:40:15 | <bwolfe> or a "how we did it" |
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| 18:42:22 | <DavidMR__> hi |
| 18:42:26 | <DavidMR__> i need help |
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| 18:42:47 | <r-friedman_> bwolfe: comm probs. what experience was diptanu going to share with us? i can't seem to find a relevant topic in 1.9 list |
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| 18:43:15 | <bwolfe> r-friedman: it was the anncillary systems one |
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| 18:43:52 | <goutham> hi |
| 18:43:55 | <r-friedman_> bwolfe: the one with TRUNK 414? ok |
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| 18:44:09 | <goutham> this is goutham from kmit hyderabad |
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| 18:44:24 | <goutham> r-friedman_: hi |
| 18:44:44 | <r-friedman_> goutham: did you lose your connection too? |
| 18:44:54 | <goutham> i got some documents regarding the Hl7 format |
| 18:45:02 | <goutham> i just joined in r-friedman_ |
| 18:45:18 | <goutham> for observations and orders |
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| 18:45:58 | <r-friedman_> goutham: oh, we just lost gautami. glad you got the docs, are they making sense? |
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| 18:48:34 | <goutham> well as far as our project is concern I think we should just follow the use cases and see what are the different scenarios in which the observation is incomplete and capture those scenarios |
| 18:48:43 | <goutham> in our project |
| 18:48:50 | <goutham> am i right ? |
| 18:48:54 | <goutham> r-friedman_: |
| 18:49:23 | <r-friedman_> goutham: ah, but how complete are our use cases? |
| 18:50:25 | <goutham> no in this case i am refering to the use cases given in hl7 |
| 18:51:18 | <r-friedman_> good answer. is this the first time you;ve encountered HL7? |
| 18:52:22 | <goutham> no |
| 18:52:26 | <r-friedman_> bwolfe: do you want to discuss the scope of the HR module here or by phone? |
| 18:53:18 | <r-friedman_> goutham: good, it's quite interesting to see how HL7 tries to encapsulate all of medical procedures |
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| 18:55:24 | <goutham_> sorry lost my connection |
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| 18:55:44 | <goutham_> r-friedman_: i have even used to mirth as a hl7 message creator |
| 18:56:10 | <r-friedman> goutham_: great, I like MIRTH a lot |
| 18:56:34 | <r-friedman> bwolfe: do you want to talk HR module scope here or by phone? |
| 18:56:34 | <goutham_> i have dealt with adt 's |
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| 18:56:57 | <goutham_> n not with OBR and OBX |
| 18:57:18 | <bwolfe> r-friedman: sorry, stepped out for a bit. here is fine. let me glance through it |
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| 18:57:40 | <goutham_> if you could provide me with some links of the documents you are refering to it would be easier for me |
| 18:57:55 | <goutham_> r-friedman: u there |
| 18:58:14 | <r-friedman> goutham_: yes, trying to do 3 things at once |
| 18:58:57 | <bwolfe> r-friedman: needs a link to the provider ticket in jira |
| 18:59:02 | <bwolfe> r-friedman: multitasking ftw |
| 18:59:41 | <r-friedman> bwolfe: right, i wanted to talk about that, what is the relative time for 1.9 provider def and gsoc? |
| 19:00:00 | <bwolfe> not sure. hopefully before gsoc. |
| 19:00:08 | <bwolfe> we will probably sprint on that and a few other features in late spring |
| 19:00:41 | <rahul> m |
| 19:00:51 | <bwolfe> r-friedman: and OpenMRS is one word. :-) |
| 19:00:53 | <r-friedman> bwolfe: is that in time for use by the student, or would you rather see the student working with you |
| 19:01:20 | <bwolfe> it will be close. too close for comfort really |
| 19:01:25 | <r-friedman> bwolfe: must i use the trademark symbol? |
| 19:02:44 | <bwolfe> no, you will be forgiven for not using it |
| 19:03:10 | <bwolfe> I'd love for the end goal to be "integrate with ihris" instead of "rewrite ihris" |
| 19:03:10 | <r-friedman> bwolfe: so what do you think, should I strip it back to raw core (db changes, api) |
| 19:03:27 | <r-friedman> bwolfe: or db changes plus admin screens? |
| 19:03:39 | <bwolfe> and is "add tables for job title..." for each User or each Provider? |
| 19:04:18 | <bwolfe> r-friedman: I think its scoped ok with the ihris integration in the extra credit |
| 19:04:36 | <r-friedman> job title is a reference table, ILO code is a reference table, the big deals are the posts which tie a person to a job title |
| 19:04:38 | <bwolfe> need to clarify "Create user forms" and "Create user reports" |
| 19:05:32 | <r-friedman> ok, I will be very functional |
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| 19:07:02 | <goutham_> hey r-friedman : can you check this http://aurora.regenstrief.org/~gunther/oldhtml/tables.html#TABLES |
| 19:07:07 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/8cFJ> (at aurora.regenstrief.org) |
| 19:07:45 | <goutham_> i mean here they have mentioned what possible values can be there in the observation result |
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| 19:09:10 | <r-friedman> goutham_: ah, the obs has a datatype, and then the datatype has its own subfields |
| 19:09:25 | <r-friedman> CWE is very common |
| 19:10:47 | <r-friedman> so is CE |
| 19:12:31 | <goutham_> ok then I guess i need to read it |
| 19:12:42 | <goutham_> can you please provide me the links |
| 19:12:47 | <goutham_> r-friedman: |
| 19:12:57 | <r-friedman> if you look at HL7 code table 396 you will see a lot of references to coding schemes that can be used |
| 19:13:18 | <r-friedman> hold on, let me get you a reference |
| 19:14:20 | <goutham_> cant see table 396 |
| 19:16:07 | <bwolfe> goutham_: that aurora server is hosted 30 feet from where I'm sitting. :-) |
| 19:16:37 | <bwolfe> actually, its probably downstairs. maybe 200 feet by direct line... |
| 19:18:18 | <goutham_> r-friedman: so do I have to read HL7 message format for observations ? |
| 19:19:53 | <r-friedman> try www.globalhivmeinfo.org/HIS/Annotated%20Bibliography/Article%204b.doc |
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| 19:20:16 | <r-friedman> just ignore the sign in, it will take you to the document |
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| 19:23:24 | <goutham_> there is a practice management system called medplexus , one of the software I was working previously with , it too had the lab orders thing and the list of reasons too |
| 19:23:35 | <goutham_> maybe we can even have a look at it too |
| 19:23:48 | <r-friedman> also try www.cdc.gov/vaccines/programs/iis/stds/downloads/hl7guide-08-2010.pdf |
| 19:24:21 | <r-friedman> it is important to remember that HL7 is a messaging standard |
| 19:24:29 | <r-friedman> how the data is stored is up to each system |
| 19:24:50 | <goutham_> yes i would remember that |
| 19:24:52 | <r-friedman> there is no unambiguous right way |
| 19:25:25 | <r-friedman> the point of looking at HL7 is to make sure you have a wide variety of use cases and that your solution can be transmitted over HL7 |
| 19:25:56 | <goutham_> would read these documents and try n come up with the list of exceptions possible :) |
| 19:26:12 | <r-friedman> so when you think of exceptions, the first thing you think of is lab tests |
| 19:27:00 | <goutham_> no not exactly |
| 19:27:32 | <r-friedman> but what about vaccines, you don't want your child vaccinated if she is sick that day |
| 19:27:41 | <goutham_> i was just trying to corelate |
| 19:27:46 | <r-friedman> so the order will be rejected |
| 19:27:56 | <r-friedman> yes, i understand |
| 19:28:05 | <goutham_> yes lab tests can be one of it |
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| 19:28:49 | <goutham_> we need to cover most part of exceptions |
| 19:29:14 | <r-friedman> the data structures were chosen to meet particular use cases. i don't think you can view the use cases, you have to look at ways in which OBX can be used and think of them |
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| 19:30:22 | <r-friedman> you are on the right track, just you need to verify your solution |
| 19:30:45 | <goutham_> ok |
| 19:30:51 | <r-friedman> in software systems, usually covering 80 or 90 % of the cases is enough |
| 19:31:06 | <r-friedman> in medical records, you have to go 6 sigma!! |
| 19:31:33 | <r-friedman> because you are talking millions of observations per clinic per year |
| 19:31:34 | <goutham_> hey |
| 19:33:22 | <r-friedman> i will try to find more info on this. but the Regenstief guys like Shaun Grannis or Paul or Burke or Tami are well connected |
| 19:34:34 | <r-friedman> shaun has some papers on the Indiana Health Information Exchange that might be helpful |
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| 19:36:08 | <r-friedman> rahul, nice to talk to you, gotta sign off now, get my e-mail from the dev list and feel free to write |
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| 21:15:51 | <r-friedman> bwolfe: new version of HR module page is up -- pulled all training functions from base requirement |
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| 23:00:12 | <DavidMR> hi everyone |
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| 23:13:36 | <DavidMR> hi again! |
| 23:14:44 | <DavidMR> deadpool: hey, I still can't install a module =/ |
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| 23:37:39 | <deadpool> hey |
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