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<raffael> nevermind, found it
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<bwolfe> (more for other people than for you, since you found it already) :-)
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<Shazin> bwolfe, It is regarding creating a patch off moduleadmin
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<Shazin> I can't make a call to freeconferencing
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<Shazin> Call Failing
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<jmiranda__> Shazin, keep trying
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<Shazin> jmiranda__, Now got through
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<raffael> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Metadata_Sharing_Project
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<downeym> As in a software filter? Not aware of any. Windscreens :-)
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<brylie> Hi downeym.
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<downeym> good ... saw your email with bwolfe and working on a reply
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<brylie> OK, I'll check that page out.
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<firzhan> mccallumg: Hi
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<mccallumg> hi there
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<mccallumg> sorry I'm late, firzhan
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<firzhan> mccallumg: It's ok Glen
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<firzhan> mccallumg: We previously discussed not add synonyms
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<firzhan> when viewing proposlas
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<firzhan> but it seems Andy needs it
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<firzhan> I am doing the necessary cahnges for it
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<mccallumg> well. I don't believe andy needs it.
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<mccallumg> I don't think he needs it in the view concept proposal list
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<firzhan> when we are doing th emigration
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<firzhan> then what should I do for the proposals with the migration status
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<mccallumg> but if a concept proposal has synonyms ... then it shouldn't cause an error in the view proposals page
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<mccallumg> migrated proposals are very basic. they don't have synonyms, do they?
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<firzhan> Thy are having Synonyms as thier
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<firzhan> one state
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<mccallumg> hmmm. please explain more. I'm not following.
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<firzhan> "PROPOSED" "UNMAPPED" "CONCEPT" "SYNONYM" "REJECT"
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<firzhan> these are teh states in the basic concept_proposal table
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<firzhan> but here we did some changes
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<firzhan> and removed teh UNMAPPED and SYNONYM states
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<firzhan> but when we are performing migration
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<firzhan> these states also come in to act
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<mccallumg> perhaps we didn't properly understand the states that were already in use. Ideally, a customer should be able to define whatever states they want.
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<mccallumg> according to their internal workflow
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<firzhan> yeah
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<mccallumg> thinking. all these states from the core concept proposal table should be supported.
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<mccallumg> How much work is that?
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<firzhan> Nothing that much
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<mccallumg> ok. good.
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<firzhan> I have to change the options in the jsp page only
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<firzhan> :)
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<firzhan> nothing that much
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<firzhan> I will add them too
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<mccallumg> then I'll look for a new blog post with another release in about 15 minutes. :)\
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<firzhan> ok
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<firzhan> :)
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<mccallumg> be sure to send an announcement when you get it up for download. quick releasing is awesome.
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<firzhan> yeah sure Glen..
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<mccallumg> bwolfe: I don't know. show's him on the channel.
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<robbyoconnor> :>
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<mccallumg> robbyoconnor: you killing time until school starts again?
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<robbyoconnor> not really
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<robbyoconnor> I have work to do
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<robbyoconnor> so I don't fail GSoC
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<mccallumg> I thought you'd be done weeks ago
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<robbyoconnor> about to implement a design I'm not 100% comfortable w/ and a design i'm not 100% understanding
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<robbyoconnor> OHH
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<robbyoconnor> glen!
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<robbyoconnor> er no
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<robbyoconnor> I had a lot of problems
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<robbyoconnor> first their popup code was VERY structured for a single use-case (had to fix that)
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<robbyoconnor> their generic popup code failed for me
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<robbyoconnor> I had to customize it for my use and spent a few hours testing
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<robbyoconnor> This project honestly would be better implemented in java :)
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<robbyoconnor> I got a lot of ideas how to fix Facility Data though!
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<mccallumg> savannah project right? for gnu?
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<robbyoconnor> so this summer wasn't wasted in any way
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<robbyoconnor> Sahana
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<robbyoconnor> Sahana Eden
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<robbyoconnor> (Disaster Relief Management Application)
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<robbyoconnor> http://eden.sahanafoundation.org
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<robbyoconnor> in python
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<robbyoconnor> sister project in php
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<robbyoconnor> Sahana Agasti
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<robbyoconnor> I met some guys from Sahana Agasti at HOPE :D
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<mccallumg> why have a sister project?
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<robbyoconnor> because it started in PHP
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<robbyoconnor> then they did a complete re-write in python
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<robbyoconnor> as an experiment
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<robbyoconnor> I heard about it via Ajay Kumar (he hangs in here sometimes)
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<robbyoconnor> HFOSS is something that I've come to hold near and dear :)
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<mccallumg> how big is he developer community?
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<robbyoconnor> not too big
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<robbyoconnor> I've been the most vocal w/ my disliking the web framework
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<robbyoconnor> and had a few meltdowns
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<mccallumg> what framework? are you the only gsoc on the proj?
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<robbyoconnor> let's just say I'll likely be mentoring next summer
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<robbyoconnor> web2py
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<robbyoconnor> mccallumg: yeh
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<robbyoconnor> w/ zero python experience
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<robbyoconnor> my proposal got me in
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<robbyoconnor> I made it incredibly detailed
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<robbyoconnor> I'm behind though
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<mccallumg> python is not tough. detailed proposal is good and bad.
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<robbyoconnor> python is easy
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<robbyoconnor> it doesn't help that my mentor TZ offset is +11 hrs from me!
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<robbyoconnor> was unavailable to me for awhile :/
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<mccallumg> no kidding. that's the opposite side of the world
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<robbyoconnor> he's in bangkok
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<robbyoconnor> originally from NZ
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<mccallumg> my student firzhan is +12.5 ... but, luckily, he is nocturnal.
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<jmiranda> mccallumg, working (to answer your earlier question)
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<robbyoconnor> I'm noctunal too
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<robbyoconnor> last summer
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<robbyoconnor> I worked feverishly and didnt sleep on the night before the GSoC deadline
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<mccallumg> jmiranda: did you move or just traveling?
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<robbyoconnor> my OpenMRS stopped working
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<robbyoconnor> and turns out the module was broken
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<robbyoconnor> (The design was broken too; but it worked end to end and that's what I cared about)
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<robbyoconnor> In OpenMRS 2.0 -- we need to design like a user and not a programmer -- I went to design my project like OpenMRS did -- and I was told "you're thinking like a programmer"
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<jmiranda> mccallumg, moved
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<robbyoconnor> jmiranda: why are you all the way in the DR?
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<jmiranda> my girlfriend and i are in the DR for a year
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<robbyoconnor> why?!
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<jmiranda> megan wanted to take a year off from med school to work here
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<robbyoconnor> ah :)
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<robbyoconnor> year off never works
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<robbyoconnor> I did a semester off and hated it
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<mccallumg> everyone is moving for a year ... you ... Ben
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<robbyoconnor> where's Ben running to?
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<jmiranda> back to kenya i assume
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<robbyoconnor> I gotta get in touch with andy at some point
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<jmiranda> i think he needs to fulfill a requirement of the adoption process
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<robbyoconnor> be cool to meet him since he's in the city
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<mccallumg> yes. kenya
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<robbyoconnor> he's adopting a child from kenya?
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<jmiranda> robbyoconnor, he has adopted a child from kenya
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<robbyoconnor> ahh :)
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<robbyoconnor> kennymac: I had issues
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<robbyoconnor> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Groovy_Forms_Module
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<robbyoconnor> i got it working 80%
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<robbyoconnor> needed to get forms to render and such
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<robbyoconnor> scary aint it :)
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<kennymac> looks like a cool module, can't tell it doesn't work from it's wiki though! :D
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<robbyoconnor> kennymac: it's incomplete and in limbo
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<robbyoconnor> I've abandoned it
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<robbyoconnor> HtmlFormEntry replaces its need
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<kennymac> ahhh i see
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<robbyoconnor> my baby though and I LOVE it is the groovy module
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<robbyoconnor> I had *SO* Much fun working on that :)
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<kennymac> lol :D
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<robbyoconnor> only time I get to code directly in groovy :D
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<robbyoconnor> me and burke are the ones who know groovy -- burke knows more than me
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<kennymac> can't say I have used it
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<kennymac> quite similar to pyhton as far as i know?
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<robbyoconnor> ruby too slightly
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<robbyoconnor> def l = [1,2,"hi"]
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<jmiranda_> robbyoconnor, don't forget about me
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<robbyoconnor> jmiranda_: was never aware you knew groovy
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<jmiranda_> i've been working with grails for the past 3 or 4 month
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<jmiranda_> s
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<robbyoconnor> I wanna work on something in grails
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<robbyoconnor> I may hop in on that prototype
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<jmiranda_> i'm still not very proficient, but it's very powerful
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<robbyoconnor> groovy is easy
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<robbyoconnor> there's a great book that teaches the idioms lemme find it:
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<jmiranda_> yeah, you can get a decent prototype up and running in an hour
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<robbyoconnor> http://www.pragprog.com/titles/sdgrvr/groovy-recipes
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/7Sf_> (at www.pragprog.com)
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<robbyoconnor> I have that
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<jmiranda_> robbyoconnor, cool
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<robbyoconnor> it teaches you proper idioms
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<kennymac> that synopsis got me exited! ><
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<robbyoconnor> (and that's important
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<robbyoconnor> kennymac: what one?
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<robbyoconnor> the groovy forms module?
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<robbyoconnor> I'd focus on integrating with Htmlformentry
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<jmiranda_> his one? "If youâre a busy Java professional who needs quick solutions to everyday problems, then Groovy Recipes is for you."
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<jmiranda_> this one?
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<robbyoconnor> ahh :)
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<robbyoconnor> it's a good read
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<kennymac> "...Groovy allows you to write code the way you always thought you shouldyoull never look at Java the same way again."
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<robbyoconnor> I have Guillaume LaForge on my Facebook :)
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<kennymac> yeah that one jmiranda
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<robbyoconnor> kennymac: groovy is what java *SHOULD* Be
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<robbyoconnor> minus one thing: inner classes are slightly busted and non-existent
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<robbyoconnor> Anonymous inner classes aren't necessary
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<jmiranda> kennymac, it's a lot of fun
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<robbyoconnor> Anonymous inner classes are the bastardized form of closures
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<robbyoconnor> I have a pretty *OK* understanbding of closures but I struggle to define them for others
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<kennymac> i just see an innerclass as a way to simplify how code is read, e.g. if you only ever call a class from 1 other class, like a neverending listener loop in a seperate thread, why not just have that thread as an innerclass in the main class?
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<kennymac> not sure of how that relates to closures though :)
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<robbyoconnor> it doesn't
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<robbyoconnor> foo(new MyInterface() { /* implement methods */ });
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<robbyoconnor> JS equiv: $(document).ready(function() { ... });
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<robbyoconnor> :)
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<robbyoconnor> I wanna help with the grails prototype BAD
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<robbyoconnor> post tasks that are necessary and i'll help :)
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<robbyoconnor> (clear specs too!)
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<kennymac> i wanna stay away from UI stuff bad!
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<robbyoconnor> I had my mentor force me to spec out my project which is now outdated
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<robbyoconnor> kennymac: *WHY*
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<robbyoconnor> I hate UI work yet I worked on things that require i touch the UI
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<robbyoconnor> I lack creativity
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<kennymac> I will work on it if I have to, just not into it
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<robbyoconnor> me either lol
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<kennymac> I was employed as webdesigner when i was 17 (10 years ago) and i guess i just got bored of it from there
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<robbyoconnor> heh
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<robbyoconnor> old man :P
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<kennymac> haha
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<robbyoconnor> I'm 28 then again
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<robbyoconnor> sooo
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<kennymac> you have a right to talk then! :P
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<robbyoconnor> I also seem to act like i'm 12
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<kennymac> peter pan?
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<robbyoconnor> LOL no :)
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<robbyoconnor> just incredibly immature ;)
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<robbyoconnor> ':)
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<kennymac> well it is ok to me immature some of the time!
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<kennymac> yeah dunno what it is really... just enjoy code that works behind the scenes a bit more nowadays
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<robbyoconnor> yeh
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<robbyoconnor> time to implement and break MVC intentionally
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<robbyoconnor> Why dont I just do all this in the view
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<robbyoconnor> and not bother with a controller
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<kennymac> you mean why not just use php?
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<robbyoconnor> HAHA
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<kennymac> :D
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<robbyoconnor> !kennymac++
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<robbyoconnor> !kennymac++
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<kennymac> big fan of php then i take it?
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<robbyoconnor> No, I took that as sarcasm
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<kennymac> well i wouldn't let my mate from uni hear that
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<kennymac> he loves php... has all the qualifications and everything "zend certified engineer" etc
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<kennymac> he now works for microsoft after they spotted his patch for zend that provides support for MSSQL
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<kennymac> the only thing i envy about php is the turnover time!
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<kennymac> which hopefully won't be a problem once we can get more support for openmrs with jrebel once this maven stuff is finalised
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<robbyoconnor> Jesus i did *NO* work today
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<downeym> keynamac++
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<downeym> err
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<downeym> kennymac++
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<robbyoconnor> those "qualifications" are useless
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<downeym> robbyoconnor--
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<downeym> (for doing no work) :P
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<robbyoconnor> yeh
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<robbyoconnor> I'm trying to figure out a way to name these tables
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<robbyoconnor> cant use survey name
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<robbyoconnor> could contain keywords
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<robbyoconnor> SQL Tables can contain numbers right?
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<kennymac> aww poor robbyoconnor is worked out!
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<kennymac> robbyoconnor, numbers in the name?
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<downeym> yeah they can
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<robbyoconnor> good
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<downeym> but why? :)
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<robbyoconnor> because i'm dynamically making tables
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<robbyoconnor> for every survey in the system
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<robbyoconnor> there will exist a table
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<kennymac> wow
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<kennymac> that could become a very big db in terms of number of tables
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<downeym> ...
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<downeym> yeah.
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<robbyoconnor> not as bad as my mentor's original idea
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<robbyoconnor> 50 vs 50,000
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<robbyoconnor> my reply to his suggestion was very douchey
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<kennymac> he wanted 50,000 tables? :S
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<robbyoconnor> see the same survey can be taken during different periods
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<robbyoconnor> and each time somebody answers it -- that's an instance
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<robbyoconnor> he wanted PER Instance!
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<robbyoconnor> that could mean 100,000
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<robbyoconnor> or 50,000
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<robbyoconnor> he couldn't see why I hated it
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<robbyoconnor> this is doable
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<robbyoconnor> when he said there will only be 50 surveys
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<kennymac> it sounds like he was wanting you to use tables like rows
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<robbyoconnor> he actually has a point
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<robbyoconnor> we get full REST support for the survey answers/results!
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<robbyoconnor> export as JSON, PDF etc
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<robbyoconnor> xforms
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<kennymac> can't think clearly, too late, gonna work on this fresh in the morning, nn fellas!
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