IRC Chat : 2010-08-12 - OpenMRS

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02:04:41 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: On Twitter: OpenMRS: @thadk DM us with your contact info and we'll follow up to find something interesting for you! <http://twitter.com/OpenMRS/statuses/20935609393>
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03:49:58 <firzhan> hi
03:51:08 <firzhan> where could I find the tomcat log files in ubuntu 9.04.
03:51:11 <firzhan> ???
03:51:27 <firzhan> for tomcat manager
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05:17:19 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14940]: billing: minor fix <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14940>
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09:00:35 <Shazin> Hi All
09:01:28 <Shazin> is http://www.openmrs.org/ up??
09:01:36 <Shazin> for me it is not working
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09:08:54 <firzhan> Shazin: Nope. Itz down here too
09:09:10 <Shazin> firzhan, Thanks
09:09:33 <firzhan> :D
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10:35:59 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14941]: pharmacy: minor fix <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14941> || OpenMRS Forum: Making OpenMRS Live <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=642#p2454>
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11:06:16 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14942]: billing: minor fix <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14942>
11:38:25 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14943]: moduleadmin branch: Minor Bug Fixes <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14943>
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12:42:35 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14945]: htmlformflowsheet. added functionality to allow child htmlforms in a form … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14945> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14944]: simplelabentry. bumped up version number, fixed a small bug in the … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14944>
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13:09:01 <raffael> hi
13:11:13 <raffael> Where can I find "c:\Documents and settings\username\application data\openmrs" on linux? I need a fresh installation of OpenMRS and I need to delete these settings?
13:14:41 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14950]: htmlformentry. small change to allow for URL parameter override of … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14950> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14949]: htmlformflowsheet. updating lib-common to openmrs1.6 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14949> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Making OpenMRS Live <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=642#p2455> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14948]: htmlformflowsheet. updating lib-common to openmrs1.6 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14948> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14947]: htmlformflowsheet. updating lib-common to openmrs1.6 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14947> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14946]: htmlformflowsheet. added capability to append htmlform obs to an existing … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14946>
13:16:14 <raffael> nevermind, found it
13:24:54 <bwolfe> raffael: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Overriding_OpenMRS_Default_Properties#Runtime_Properties
13:24:57 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/7SWm> (at openmrs.org)
13:25:05 <bwolfe> (more for other people than for you, since you found it already) :-)
13:33:16 <Shazin> bwolfe, Hi
13:33:51 <Shazin> bwolfe, It is regarding creating a patch off moduleadmin
13:34:19 <Shazin> bwolfe, Have anyone created a patch off a branch before?
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13:34:23 <bwolfe_> hi shazin
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13:46:48 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14953]: regadbintegration:few changes <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14953> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14952]: htmlformentry. took out overrides annotation from AutocompleteWidget. … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14952> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14951]: RwandaAddressHierarchy. Added the kinywarwanda names for the provinces to … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14951>
13:48:07 <downeym> !devmtg
13:48:07 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer meeting Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern - http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
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13:57:55 <chris_c> hello everybody
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14:06:28 <downeym> http://connect.openmrs.org/
14:08:42 <raffael> are you guys on voice?
14:09:08 <Shazin> I can't make a call to freeconferencing
14:09:21 <Shazin> Call Failing
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14:14:38 <jmiranda__> Shazin, keep trying
14:14:46 <jmiranda__> or one of us can skype out to you
14:14:58 <Shazin> jmiranda__, Now got through
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14:18:49 <downeym> http://tickets.openmrs.org/browse/TRUNK-1515
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14:25:43 <downeym> Now presenting: Metadata Sharing Project - Rafal Korytkowski
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14:36:36 <mccallumg> Question for raffael at the end. Who only shares a couple of concepts? I haven't seen that use case before. I seen sharing an entire concept dictionary or nothing ... but never a few. Maybe concept sharing by class - like the drug portion of the concept dictionary.
14:44:17 <bwolfe> mccallumg: I think that just comes along with it. some people might want to share only a few locations, for instance
14:44:39 <r-friedman> mccallumg: as far as I know, we lack a mechanism to tag related concepts, e.g. liver concepts, so we have to pick them
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14:44:56 <raffael> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Metadata_Sharing_Project
14:44:57 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/751p> (at openmrs.org)
14:45:07 <raffael> it's slightly out-dated tough
14:45:15 <downeym> Now presenting: Remark Module - Christian Chircu
14:45:32 <chris_c> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Remark_Module
14:45:37 <bwolfe> raffael: can you write up some documentation and put it on a page like http://openmrs.org/wiki/Metadata_Sharing_Module
14:45:59 <raffael> sure, this was my plan :)
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14:46:12 <burke> raffael: thanks. do you plan on turning your project documentation into module documentation? e.g., http://openmrs.org/wiki/Metadata_Sharing_Module
14:46:16 <Pkirwa> he is not clear or it on end alone?
14:46:27 <Pkirwa> my end alone?
14:46:36 <r-friedman> is there anything that can be done to improve voice quality on skype?
14:46:46 <raffael> burke: yes, I'll do it in a week
14:47:07 <r-friedman> pkirwa: i was on a call yesterday, couldn't make out most of the speakers
14:47:17 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14955]: the process status is displayed with both reverse ajax is enabled and … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14955> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14954]: the process status is displayed with both reverse ajax is enabled and … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14954>
14:47:27 <burke> raffael: cool. nice work!
14:47:27 <bwolfe> Pkirwa: he is a little jumbled
14:47:52 <bwolfe> r-friedman: get better speakers? :-) or better internet?
14:47:59 <raffael> burke: thanks!
14:48:08 <raffael> thank you all!
14:48:33 <Pkirwa> bwolfe: true
14:48:49 <r-friedman> bwolfe: actually, i ruined my ears as a youth at rock concerts
14:50:28 <kennymac> hi everyone, sorry I am late
14:53:21 <downeym> r-friedman: Faster connection and better microphones
14:53:51 <kennymac> sounds like he is too close to his microphone
14:54:54 <r-friedman> bwolfe: downeym is there a free filter available?
14:55:44 <downeym> As in a software filter? Not aware of any. Windscreens :-)
14:56:06 <downeym> Could probably figure out how to pass the audio through a band pass filter
14:56:20 <bwolfe> similar to the vuvuzela filter?
14:56:49 <downeym> right :)
14:57:07 <downeym> although that's more a band reject filter
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14:59:54 <downeym> Next presentation: UI Framework Prototypes - Harsha Halgaswatta
15:00:46 <fixl> huh what are you guys up to? i didn't recognize this chan is very full this time
15:06:39 <downeym> !refer fixl devmtg
15:06:39 * OpenMRSBot refers fixl to devmtg
15:06:43 <downeym> oops
15:06:45 <downeym> !devmtg
15:06:45 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer meeting Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern - http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
15:08:09 <fixl> huh whats that in UTC
15:09:08 <bwolfe> fixl: an hour ago. :-)
15:09:59 <fixl> i mean 10 AM eastern? :D then i just have to add 8 or 9 hours and i know what time that is at my place
15:11:59 <fixl> those time calculations suck ... with all this daylight savings stuff
15:12:17 <bwolfe> 10 EDT
15:12:36 <bwolfe> just take 1 hour and 12 mins off of your current time and thats when the dev call started in your time zone. :-)
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15:19:03 <fixl> <-- confuzzled
15:19:08 <fixl> confused and puzzled
15:19:10 <fixl> :D
15:23:41 <downeym> Now presenting: Bug Analytics - Shivashankar Subramanian
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15:26:35 <bwolfe> fixl: what time is it where you are now?
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15:26:59 <fixl> 13. august 01:26 am
15:27:08 <bwolfe> fixl: EDT is UTC-4. so the dev call is 14:00 UTC
15:27:34 <bwolfe> firzhan: the dev call started 1.5 hours ago...so thats 0:00 your time
15:27:35 <fixl> so its 23:00 my time
15:29:15 <bwolfe> fixl: whats your timezone?
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15:35:27 <bwolfe> firzhan: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?month=8&day=12&year=2010&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=105&p2=240
15:35:30 <bwolfe> errr
15:35:32 <bwolfe> fixl: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?month=8&day=12&year=2010&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=105&p2=240
15:35:32 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/7SZB> (at timeanddate.com)
15:46:27 <bwolfe> http://openmrs.org/wiki/1.8_hackathon
15:51:11 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14957]: added logic-0.4 jar to lib-common and classpath <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14957> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14956]: rwandaprimarycare. added space button to alpha keyboards, fixed a couple … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14956>
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16:01:25 <Shazin> bwolfe, Hi
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16:23:18 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14958]: fixed unit test that was broken do a slight change in html rendered for a … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14958>
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16:55:21 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14959]: moduleadmin branch: Commenting and Removing Unwanted Comments <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14959> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Error in Saving Forms in Html Form <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=639#p2456>
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17:27:32 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14960]: Added some test more cases <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14960>
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18:25:56 <downeym> hi brylie
18:26:31 <brylie> Hi downeym.
18:27:54 <brylie> How are you?
18:28:58 <downeym> good ... saw your email with bwolfe and working on a reply
18:29:26 <brylie> Ah, I am just composing a message as well.
18:29:44 <downeym> We are definitely on the cusp of rounding up the current/existing documentation and working to restructure it
18:30:33 <downeym> I'm also this afternoon working on a list of possible goals for documenation and will have it on http://go.openmrs.org/hack
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18:33:44 <brylie> OK, I'll check that page out.
18:34:09 <brylie> There has been interest on the FLOSS Manuals discussion list around this project.
18:34:27 <downeym> Yeah, we're very excited about getting to that point
18:35:48 <brylie> It has also been pointed out that it might be beneficial to include a Why along with the How.
18:36:39 <brylie> As an example, the CiviCRM manual contains a lot of great advice alongside the technical aspects of the manual.
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18:59:53 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Making OpenMRS Live <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=642#p2457>
19:02:43 <downeym> brylie: agreed -- and i think that's one of the great assets a lot of people in our community can add
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19:31:56 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Making OpenMRS Live <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=642#p2458> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [14961]: conceptmanagement: added autocomplete to advanced search <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/14961>
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19:35:39 <firzhan> mccallumg: Hi
19:35:51 <mccallumg> hi there
19:35:56 <mccallumg> sorry I'm late, firzhan
19:36:18 <firzhan> mccallumg: It's ok Glen
19:38:38 <firzhan> mccallumg: We previously discussed not add synonyms
19:38:45 <firzhan> when viewing proposlas
19:38:51 <firzhan> but it seems Andy needs it
19:39:02 <firzhan> I am doing the necessary cahnges for it
19:39:51 <mccallumg> well. I don't believe andy needs it.
19:40:31 <mccallumg> I don't think he needs it in the view concept proposal list
19:41:06 <firzhan> when we are doing th emigration
19:41:29 <firzhan> then what should I do for the proposals with the migration status
19:41:42 <mccallumg> but if a concept proposal has synonyms ... then it shouldn't cause an error in the view proposals page
19:42:16 <firzhan> yeah
19:42:16 <mccallumg> migrated proposals are very basic. they don't have synonyms, do they?
19:42:31 <firzhan> Thy are having Synonyms as thier
19:42:36 <firzhan> one state
19:43:22 <mccallumg> hmmm. please explain more. I'm not following.
19:43:42 <firzhan> "PROPOSED" "UNMAPPED" "CONCEPT" "SYNONYM" "REJECT"
19:44:04 <firzhan> these are teh states in the basic concept_proposal table
19:44:22 <firzhan> but here we did some changes
19:44:39 <firzhan> and removed teh UNMAPPED and SYNONYM states
19:44:52 <firzhan> but when we are performing migration
19:45:02 <firzhan> these states also come in to act
19:46:13 <mccallumg> perhaps we didn't properly understand the states that were already in use. Ideally, a customer should be able to define whatever states they want.
19:46:25 <mccallumg> according to their internal workflow
19:46:49 <firzhan> yeah
19:47:59 <mccallumg> thinking. all these states from the core concept proposal table should be supported.
19:48:06 <mccallumg> How much work is that?
19:48:45 <firzhan> Nothing that much
19:48:54 <mccallumg> ok. good.
19:49:02 <firzhan> I have to change the options in the jsp page only
19:49:04 <firzhan> :)
19:49:16 <mccallumg> how will this affect the other wrap acitivies like documentation?
19:49:28 <firzhan> nothing that much
19:49:40 <firzhan> it's about 10 minutes work
19:49:44 <firzhan> only
19:50:46 <firzhan> I will add them too
19:50:50 <mccallumg> then I'll look for a new blog post with another release in about 15 minutes. :)\
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19:53:38 <firzhan> ok
19:53:41 <firzhan> :)
19:56:28 <mccallumg> be sure to send an announcement when you get it up for download. quick releasing is awesome.
19:57:50 <firzhan> yeah sure Glen..
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20:18:03 <mccallumg> jmiranda: are you on vacation or working?
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20:42:25 <bwolfe> jmiranda is around?!
20:44:31 <mccallumg> bwolfe: I don't know. show's him on the channel.
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21:10:39 * robbyoconnor looks around
21:10:45 <robbyoconnor> :>
21:13:14 <mccallumg> robbyoconnor: you killing time until school starts again?
21:13:23 <robbyoconnor> not really
21:13:31 <robbyoconnor> I have work to do
21:13:36 <robbyoconnor> so I don't fail GSoC
21:14:11 <mccallumg> I thought you'd be done weeks ago
21:14:15 <robbyoconnor> about to implement a design I'm not 100% comfortable w/ and a design i'm not 100% understanding
21:14:20 <robbyoconnor> OHH
21:14:22 <robbyoconnor> glen!
21:14:26 <robbyoconnor> er no
21:14:29 <robbyoconnor> I had a lot of problems
21:14:49 <robbyoconnor> first their popup code was VERY structured for a single use-case (had to fix that)
21:14:58 <robbyoconnor> their generic popup code failed for me
21:15:35 <robbyoconnor> I had to customize it for my use and spent a few hours testing
21:15:51 <robbyoconnor> This project honestly would be better implemented in java :)
21:16:07 <robbyoconnor> I got a lot of ideas how to fix Facility Data though!
21:16:22 <mccallumg> savannah project right? for gnu?
21:16:22 <robbyoconnor> so this summer wasn't wasted in any way
21:16:28 <robbyoconnor> Sahana
21:16:35 <robbyoconnor> Sahana Eden
21:16:44 <robbyoconnor> (Disaster Relief Management Application)
21:16:51 <robbyoconnor> http://eden.sahanafoundation.org
21:16:54 <robbyoconnor> in python
21:16:59 <robbyoconnor> sister project in php
21:17:04 <robbyoconnor> Sahana Agasti
21:17:24 <robbyoconnor> I met some guys from Sahana Agasti at HOPE :D
21:17:58 <mccallumg> why have a sister project?
21:18:22 <robbyoconnor> because it started in PHP
21:18:29 <robbyoconnor> then they did a complete re-write in python
21:18:34 <robbyoconnor> as an experiment
21:18:59 <robbyoconnor> I heard about it via Ajay Kumar (he hangs in here sometimes)
21:19:17 <robbyoconnor> HFOSS is something that I've come to hold near and dear :)
21:20:01 <mccallumg> how big is he developer community?
21:20:16 <robbyoconnor> not too big
21:20:44 <robbyoconnor> I've been the most vocal w/ my disliking the web framework
21:20:51 <robbyoconnor> and had a few meltdowns
21:21:05 <mccallumg> what framework? are you the only gsoc on the proj?
21:21:07 <robbyoconnor> let's just say I'll likely be mentoring next summer
21:21:09 <robbyoconnor> web2py
21:21:12 <robbyoconnor> mccallumg: yeh
21:21:17 <robbyoconnor> w/ zero python experience
21:21:24 <robbyoconnor> my proposal got me in
21:21:29 <robbyoconnor> I made it incredibly detailed
21:21:43 <robbyoconnor> I'm behind though
21:22:32 <mccallumg> python is not tough. detailed proposal is good and bad.
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21:22:48 <robbyoconnor> python is easy
21:23:03 <robbyoconnor> my difficulty was me not getting how to work within the framework
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21:24:12 <robbyoconnor> it doesn't help that my mentor TZ offset is +11 hrs from me!
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21:24:31 <robbyoconnor> was unavailable to me for awhile :/
21:24:45 <mccallumg> no kidding. that's the opposite side of the world
21:25:03 <robbyoconnor> he's in bangkok
21:25:07 <robbyoconnor> originally from NZ
21:25:28 <mccallumg> my student firzhan is +12.5 ... but, luckily, he is nocturnal.
21:26:42 <jmiranda> mccallumg, working (to answer your earlier question)
21:27:16 <robbyoconnor> I'm noctunal too
21:27:17 <robbyoconnor> last summer
21:27:28 <robbyoconnor> I worked feverishly and didnt sleep on the night before the GSoC deadline
21:27:31 <mccallumg> jmiranda: did you move or just traveling?
21:27:34 <robbyoconnor> my OpenMRS stopped working
21:27:42 <robbyoconnor> and turns out the module was broken
21:27:59 <robbyoconnor> (The design was broken too; but it worked end to end and that's what I cared about)
21:28:38 <robbyoconnor> In OpenMRS 2.0 -- we need to design like a user and not a programmer -- I went to design my project like OpenMRS did -- and I was told "you're thinking like a programmer"
21:28:57 <robbyoconnor> I wound up implementing a Wizard UI
21:28:58 <jmiranda> mccallumg, moved
21:29:15 <robbyoconnor> jmiranda: why are you all the way in the DR?
21:29:20 <jmiranda> my girlfriend and i are in the DR for a year
21:29:26 <robbyoconnor> why?!
21:29:39 <jmiranda> megan wanted to take a year off from med school to work here
21:29:44 <robbyoconnor> ah :)
21:29:49 <robbyoconnor> year off never works
21:30:21 <robbyoconnor> I did a semester off and hated it
21:30:21 <mccallumg> everyone is moving for a year ... you ... Ben
21:30:30 <robbyoconnor> where's Ben running to?
21:30:41 <jmiranda> back to kenya i assume
21:30:51 <robbyoconnor> I gotta get in touch with andy at some point
21:30:59 <jmiranda> i think he needs to fulfill a requirement of the adoption process
21:30:59 <robbyoconnor> be cool to meet him since he's in the city
21:32:28 <mccallumg> yes. kenya
21:32:34 <jmiranda> by the way, has anyone noticed whether i have "quit IRC" a lot lately
21:33:11 <robbyoconnor> he's adopting a child from kenya?
21:33:21 <mccallumg> you're always popping on and off. that's what drew my attention to the .do location.
21:33:31 <jmiranda> i've been noticing some weird issues
21:33:48 <jmiranda> IRC keeps telling me i have a new IP each time too
21:34:15 <jmiranda> robbyoconnor, he has adopted a child from kenya
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21:36:04 <robbyoconnor> ahh :)
21:36:04 <robbyoconnor> cool!
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21:38:46 <jmiranda> OpenMRSBot, do i still exist?
21:38:46 <OpenMRSBot> jmiranda: Error: "do" is not a valid command.
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21:41:25 <robbyoconnor> kennymac: I had issues
21:42:09 <robbyoconnor> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Groovy_Forms_Module
21:42:47 <robbyoconnor> i got it working 80%
21:42:47 <robbyoconnor> needed to get forms to render and such
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21:42:48 <robbyoconnor> scary aint it :)
21:42:50 <kennymac> looks like a cool module, can't tell it doesn't work from it's wiki though! :D
21:42:51 <robbyoconnor> kennymac: it's incomplete and in limbo
21:42:51 <robbyoconnor> I've abandoned it
21:42:51 <robbyoconnor> HtmlFormEntry replaces its need
21:42:52 <kennymac> ahhh i see
21:42:55 <robbyoconnor> my baby though and I LOVE it is the groovy module
21:43:06 <robbyoconnor> I had *SO* Much fun working on that :)
21:43:15 <kennymac> lol :D
21:43:18 <robbyoconnor> only time I get to code directly in groovy :D
21:43:38 <robbyoconnor> me and burke are the ones who know groovy -- burke knows more than me
21:43:52 <kennymac> can't say I have used it
21:44:19 <kennymac> quite similar to pyhton as far as i know?
21:44:33 <robbyoconnor> ruby too slightly
21:44:49 <robbyoconnor> def l = [1,2,"hi"]
21:44:57 <robbyoconnor> l.each { print it }
21:45:14 <jmiranda_> robbyoconnor, don't forget about me
21:45:26 <robbyoconnor> jmiranda_: was never aware you knew groovy
21:45:27 <jmiranda_> i've been working with grails for the past 3 or 4 month
21:45:28 <jmiranda_> s
21:45:40 <robbyoconnor> I wanna work on something in grails
21:45:47 <robbyoconnor> I may hop in on that prototype
21:45:53 <jmiranda_> i'm still not very proficient, but it's very powerful
21:46:01 <robbyoconnor> groovy is easy
21:46:14 <robbyoconnor> there's a great book that teaches the idioms lemme find it:
21:46:15 <jmiranda_> yeah, you can get a decent prototype up and running in an hour
21:46:47 <robbyoconnor> http://www.pragprog.com/titles/sdgrvr/groovy-recipes
21:46:51 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/7Sf_> (at www.pragprog.com)
21:46:56 <robbyoconnor> I have that
21:47:23 <jmiranda_> robbyoconnor, cool
21:47:38 <robbyoconnor> it teaches you proper idioms
21:47:38 <kennymac> that synopsis got me exited! ><
21:47:43 <robbyoconnor> (and that's important
21:47:48 <robbyoconnor> kennymac: what one?
21:47:54 <robbyoconnor> the groovy forms module?
21:48:11 <robbyoconnor> I'd focus on integrating with Htmlformentry
21:48:16 <jmiranda_> his one? "If you’re a busy Java professional who needs quick solutions to everyday problems, then Groovy Recipes is for you."
21:48:24 <jmiranda_> this one?
21:48:24 <robbyoconnor> ahh :)
21:48:33 <robbyoconnor> it's a good read
21:48:44 <kennymac> "...Groovy allows you to write code the way you always thought you should—you’ll never look at Java the same way again."
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21:48:46 <robbyoconnor> I have Guillaume LaForge on my Facebook :)
21:48:56 <kennymac> yeah that one jmiranda
21:48:58 <robbyoconnor> kennymac: groovy is what java *SHOULD* Be
21:49:09 <robbyoconnor> minus one thing: inner classes are slightly busted and non-existent
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21:49:19 <robbyoconnor> Anonymous inner classes aren't necessary
21:49:27 <jmiranda> kennymac, it's a lot of fun
21:49:31 <robbyoconnor> Anonymous inner classes are the bastardized form of closures
21:50:04 <robbyoconnor> I have a pretty *OK* understanbding of closures but I struggle to define them for others
21:52:36 <kennymac> i just see an innerclass as a way to simplify how code is read, e.g. if you only ever call a class from 1 other class, like a neverending listener loop in a seperate thread, why not just have that thread as an innerclass in the main class?
21:52:48 <kennymac> not sure of how that relates to closures though :)
21:52:57 <robbyoconnor> it doesn't
21:53:33 <robbyoconnor> foo(new MyInterface() { /* implement methods */ });
21:53:55 <robbyoconnor> JS equiv: $(document).ready(function() { ... });
21:54:07 <robbyoconnor> :)
21:54:34 <robbyoconnor> I wanna help with the grails prototype BAD
21:54:58 <robbyoconnor> post tasks that are necessary and i'll help :)
21:55:02 <robbyoconnor> (clear specs too!)
21:55:20 <kennymac> i wanna stay away from UI stuff bad!
21:55:21 <robbyoconnor> I had my mentor force me to spec out my project which is now outdated
21:55:28 <robbyoconnor> kennymac: *WHY*
21:55:44 <robbyoconnor> I hate UI work yet I worked on things that require i touch the UI
21:55:50 <robbyoconnor> I lack creativity
21:56:32 <kennymac> I will work on it if I have to, just not into it
21:56:51 <robbyoconnor> me either lol
21:57:07 <kennymac> I was employed as webdesigner when i was 17 (10 years ago) and i guess i just got bored of it from there
21:57:15 <robbyoconnor> heh
21:57:21 <robbyoconnor> old man :P
21:57:26 <kennymac> haha
21:57:27 <robbyoconnor> I'm 28 then again
21:57:29 <robbyoconnor> sooo
21:57:37 <kennymac> you have a right to talk then! :P
21:57:55 <robbyoconnor> I also seem to act like i'm 12
21:58:12 <kennymac> peter pan?
21:58:19 <robbyoconnor> LOL no :)
21:58:23 <robbyoconnor> just incredibly immature ;)
21:58:25 <robbyoconnor> ':)
21:58:55 <kennymac> well it is ok to me immature some of the time!
22:00:01 <kennymac> yeah dunno what it is really... just enjoy code that works behind the scenes a bit more nowadays
22:00:35 <robbyoconnor> yeh
22:00:55 <robbyoconnor> time to implement and break MVC intentionally
22:01:02 <robbyoconnor> Why dont I just do all this in the view
22:01:08 <robbyoconnor> and not bother with a controller
22:01:20 <kennymac> you mean why not just use php?
22:01:28 <robbyoconnor> HAHA
22:01:32 <kennymac> :D
22:01:32 <robbyoconnor> !kennymac++
22:01:34 <robbyoconnor> !kennymac++
22:01:38 <robbyoconnor> !karma kennymac
22:01:38 <OpenMRSBot> robbyoconnor: Karma for "kennymac" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3.
22:01:59 <kennymac> big fan of php then i take it?
22:02:13 <robbyoconnor> No, I took that as sarcasm
22:03:37 <kennymac> well i wouldn't let my mate from uni hear that
22:04:29 <kennymac> he loves php... has all the qualifications and everything "zend certified engineer" etc
22:05:03 <kennymac> he now works for microsoft after they spotted his patch for zend that provides support for MSSQL
22:08:10 <kennymac> the only thing i envy about php is the turnover time!
22:08:50 <kennymac> which hopefully won't be a problem once we can get more support for openmrs with jrebel once this maven stuff is finalised
22:08:54 <robbyoconnor> Jesus i did *NO* work today
22:10:15 <downeym> keynamac++
22:10:17 <downeym> err
22:10:19 <downeym> kennymac++
22:10:20 <robbyoconnor> those "qualifications" are useless
22:10:42 <downeym> robbyoconnor--
22:10:46 <downeym> (for doing no work) :P
22:10:49 <robbyoconnor> yeh
22:11:10 <robbyoconnor> I'm trying to figure out a way to name these tables
22:11:18 <robbyoconnor> cant use survey name
22:11:24 <robbyoconnor> could contain keywords
22:11:35 <robbyoconnor> SQL Tables can contain numbers right?
22:12:20 <kennymac> aww poor robbyoconnor is worked out!
22:12:54 <kennymac> robbyoconnor, numbers in the name?
22:13:09 <downeym> yeah they can
22:13:12 <robbyoconnor> good
22:13:14 <downeym> but why? :)
22:13:24 <robbyoconnor> because i'm dynamically making tables
22:13:34 <robbyoconnor> for every survey in the system
22:13:37 <robbyoconnor> there will exist a table
22:13:44 <kennymac> wow
22:14:14 <kennymac> that could become a very big db in terms of number of tables
22:14:20 <downeym> ...
22:14:22 <downeym> yeah.
22:14:28 <robbyoconnor> not as bad as my mentor's original idea
22:14:32 <robbyoconnor> 50 vs 50,000
22:15:01 <robbyoconnor> my reply to his suggestion was very douchey
22:15:24 <kennymac> he wanted 50,000 tables? :S
22:15:51 <robbyoconnor> see the same survey can be taken during different periods
22:16:10 <robbyoconnor> and each time somebody answers it -- that's an instance
22:16:15 <robbyoconnor> he wanted PER Instance!
22:16:24 <robbyoconnor> that could mean 100,000
22:16:27 <robbyoconnor> or 50,000
22:16:41 <robbyoconnor> he couldn't see why I hated it
22:16:46 <robbyoconnor> this is doable
22:17:03 <robbyoconnor> when he said there will only be 50 surveys
22:17:12 <kennymac> it sounds like he was wanting you to use tables like rows
22:17:30 <robbyoconnor> he actually has a point
22:17:40 <robbyoconnor> we get full REST support for the survey answers/results!
22:17:57 <robbyoconnor> export as JSON, PDF etc
22:18:01 <robbyoconnor> xforms
22:21:19 <kennymac> can't think clearly, too late, gonna work on this fresh in the morning, nn fellas!
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