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<galinganmd> hi, I'm just new to openmrs. I'm a doctor who is trying it out on our hospital but I'm having a hard time making some of the modules to work. Could anyone help me with the registration module?
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<chopin> galinganmd: i'm not as familiar as i should be with the registration module, but i can try
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<chopin> what's wrong?
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<galinganmd> when I click the find/create icon, the module already gets identifiers that I have already uploaded
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<galinganmd> I think the module should just get the identifiers once the patient is saved to the system
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<bwolfe> galinganmd: what do you mean already gets identifiers?
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<bwolfe> (I'm in the same boat as chopin, I'm not tooo familiar with the registration module)
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<galinganmd> I uploaded a bunch of ids from a csv file to the registration module. Try clicking the find/create icon a bunch of time and you will see the number of identifiers gradually decreasing per click
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<bwolfe> galinganmd: interesting. are you using the latest registration module?
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<galinganmd> yes
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<galinganmd> i think its 1.0.0.2. I'll check first
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<chopin> hrm
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<galinganmd> sorry, my connection got cut
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<galinganmd> I can't check my server because I put it in my Ubuntu OS. I'm currently using my windows OS. I'm very sure though that I used the latest registration module
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<galinganmd> This is as long as a latest version was not put up within last month
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<galinganmd> I am currently trying to implement a new id system in the Philippines and we've managed to get it up by manually typing the identifiers. This has proven to be costly and I'm trying to get things cheaper by using the registration module
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<Mkop> bwolfe: modules.openmrs.org is giving an error
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<bwolfe> galinganmd: for just identifier stuff, you can try the mrngen module or the idgen module
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<bwolfe> Mkop: bah
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<bwolfe> Mkop: wheres downeym when you need him
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<Mkop> sleeping under his desk?
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<Mkop> I actually meant it the other way around
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<galinganmd> @bwolfe: I've tried the idgen module but we found it hard to regulate the identifiers. I haven't tried the mrngen. I'll try it later
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<galinganmd> +Mkop: What do you mean by production system? I'm sorry I am not familiar with the terms
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<Mkop> production system means a system that's being used live with actual patients, as opposed to a system being used only for testing
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<galinganmd> its production system. We've already implemented the id system on one hospital. We wish to test the registration module to reduce costs
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<Mkop> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Idgen_Module says that they're planning to add capability for storage of a local pool of identifiers
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<Mkop> they also have remote identifier source, which might work for you
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<Mkop> it says what they have is fairly "prototypical", so I'm not sure how well it works
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<galinganmd> That's nice to hear. I hope they get it to work. I also hope that this bug with the registration module gets fixed. thanks but I think I'll have to try the mrngen first because we need a solution at once.
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<bwolfe> galinganmd: might help to file a ticket abt it in trac to make sure that gets fixed
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<Mkop> if you want the idgen stuff to get worked on, try drop an email to mseaton at pih dot org
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<galinganmd> @bwolfe: I already applied for a username for the forums but I cant get to log in. I'll try when I get to log in
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<galinganmd> +Mkop: thanks, I really needed some tech support since there are no java programmers in our agency
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<bwolfe> forum.openmrs.org isn't used very much
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<Mkop> what's your time frame on getting this done?
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<galinganmd> @bwolfe: I still don't know how to use the trac. I'll go over it later. I don't know if I need to be logged in to write the bugs. If I need to be logged in, I need to have my account fixed first.
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<galinganmd> +Mkop: I need to get it done within this week or we'll have to go back to our costly protocol
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<bwolfe> galinganmd: why/how is it costly?
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<bwolfe> galinganmd: our user accounts are not linked yet. so the wiki (openmrs.org), forum, and trac all have differnet accounts.
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<galinganmd> We print stickers and label patient records with our new identifiers. These stickers have barcodes which could be read with a barcode reader and are inputted in the system. With the registration module, we would not need to print these stickers and manually place them on the records or require a barcode scanner to ensure no mistakes in inputting the identifiers.
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<galinganmd> I see that may be the reason why I can't log in to the forums. I'll try the trac later
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2323 (defect created): bug with registration module version 1.0.3 <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2323>
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<chopin> nribeka: where are you?
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<nribeka> hi chopin
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<nribeka> i'm on vacation
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<chopin> oh?!?
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<nribeka> lying on white sand beach in Bali
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<chopin> so you are asleep ...
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<nribeka> boo chopin
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<OpenMRSBot> chopin: "gsoc" --- More information about OpenMRS and Google Summer of Code 2010 is available at http://soc2010.openmrs.org/
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<chopin> http://www.webcambali.com/
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<pascal`> hi chopin
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<pascal`> hey nribeka
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<pascal`> 'lo downeym
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<bwolfe> WE HAD TO RELOCATE IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY AND WE WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO SHARE THE SCENERIES FROM BALI
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<chopin> yes
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<chopin> win would be coding in the dark
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<downeym> bwolfe: RELOCATE TO WHERE?
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<bwolfe> downeym: THEY DIDN"T SAY
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<downeym> bwolfe: THAT"S TOO BAD>
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<nribeka> with 1.4Kbps connection downeym?
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<downeym> nribeka: haha
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<downeym> Echidna: http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=8779&rss
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<Echidna> downeym: when was that?
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<Echidna> seems to work for me
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<Echidna> oh ok
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<Echidna> 2.5h ago
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<downeym> time to upgrade BIND :)
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<Mkop> bwolfe: my hosting company has been working overtime since we last spoke in an effort to win you a new customer
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<bwolfe> Mkop: lol
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<bwolfe> Mkop: now what'd they do ?
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<bwolfe> Mkop: export/import of cpanel content is pretty easy ;-)
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<Mkop> bwolfe: taking multiple hours to respond to a ticket with a garbage answer
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<Mkop> now I'm on the phone with them
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<Mkop> I actually only waited for 15 minutes
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<Mkop> but of course, he can't help me
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<Mkop> only the "senior technicians"
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<Mkop> who are only available by email
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<Echidna> whats the problem
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<Mkop> 500 error
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<Echidna> and whats is their response time supposed to be
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<Mkop> that doesn't show up in the logs available to me on cpanel
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<Mkop> their response time is supposed to be "within the hour"
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<Mkop> I submitted the ticket at 6 PM last night, got a response at 9, another response at 12, another response at 3, another response at 4
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<downeym> cpanel ftl
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<Mkop> it's not a cpanel fail
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<Mkop> it's a justhost.com fail
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<downeym> i mean the idea of cpanel is FTL :)
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<Mkop> oh
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<Mkop> bwolfe: does your $5 perhaps include shell access?
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<Mkop> so I can tail -f the error log or the like?
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<downeym> Mkop: No, it's not that as much as it is that attempts to simplify things that are necessarily somewhat complex tend to be pretty poor
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<Echidna> downeym is a gatekeeper =P
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<downeym> It should be easy to drive a car, but it doesn't need to be easy to perform maintenance on it
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<Echidna> hah tell me about it
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<downeym> there is a place in the world for specialists :)
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<Echidna> to replace a headlight bulb on my car, you need to take off the front bumper, then remove the headlight
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<Echidna> otherwise you cant access the bulb
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<downeym> Echidna: perhaps that's something reasonable to simplify, but why should BMW spend lots of time making it easier to rebuild your engine?
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<Mkop> downeym: what things does it fail at simplifying?
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<Mkop> I think that in general, it does a pretty good job
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<Echidna> downeym: bmw wouldnt, but a third party might
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<Echidna> sucks for bmw but good for others
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<downeym> Mkop: i challenge anyone to a cpanel vs. command-line-and-vi speed race to manage a large virtual host implementation ;-)
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<Echidna> does it have to be vi?
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<downeym> Echidna: vi is fastest
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<downeym> vi++
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<Mkop> I challenge anyone to a cpanel vs. linux instruction race to get 100 newbies managing simple websites
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<downeym> a newbie doesn't need to manage a web site
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<downeym> there are plenty of apps that accomplish the need to publish information without technical expertise ;)
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<Mkop> depends how you define newbie
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<Mkop> take me for example
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<Mkop> I can go on cpanel, click "add subdomain", and 24 hours later, boom there it is
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<Mkop> it would take me a while to learn how to edit apache.conf etc. to make that happen
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<Mkop> aside from the fact that it also creates the DNS record at the same time
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<Mkop> for the DNS to propagate
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<Mkop> either that, or for the justhost support monkeys to manually edit the apache.conf from their home in India
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<downeym> lol
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<downeym> (+) newhost IN A 127.0.0.1
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<bwolfe> Mkop: ha. I let my server control the dns, not my host, and the subdomains are accessible immediately
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<Echidna> monkeys have homes in india? =o
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<Mkop> bwolfe: really?
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1993 (enhancement reopened): HTML Form Entry visible to all users under Administration <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1993#comment:2> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2328 (task created): "Manage Form Entry Error Queue" and "Form Entry Information" visible to all users under Administration <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2328>
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: On Twitter: OpenMRS: Google releases numbers and locations of accepted students for #GSoC 2010. We're excited to be part of it! http://bit.ly/9OuOep <http://twitter.com/OpenMRS/statuses/13862601186> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13310]: htmlformentry: updated version # to 1.6.3.2; removed my functionality to ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13310> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13309]: htmlformentry: fixed so that HTML Manage Forms admin options aren't ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13309>
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<downeym> http://shazsterblog.blogspot.com/ <- OpenMRS Sri Lanka team
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<bwolfe> he has TONS of openmrs knowledge
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2001 (task closed): Change Encounter Admin Search to Include search by Name <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2001#comment:14> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13315]: Change Encounter Admin Search to Include search by Name - #2001 Author: ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13315>
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<astelmashenko> hi nribeka
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<astelmashenko> nribeka: please see ticket 2209 when you have time
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<nribeka> !ticket 2209
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<OpenMRSBot> nribeka: Ticket #2209: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2209
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<downeym> cya *
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