IRC Chat : 2010-05-12 - OpenMRS

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00:26:53 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13303]: chicaops -- rollback the incorrect import into svn. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13303> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13302]: chicaops -- rollback the incorrect import. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13302> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13301]: chicaops -- Init checkin. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13301> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13300]: chicaops - the module was checked in wrong place. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13300> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13299]: chicaops -- Init checkin to create the new module (ChicaOps) in … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13299> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13298]: chicaops - Initial import (just to create the new module -- ChicaOps, … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13298>
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00:56:48 <galinganmd> hi, I'm just new to openmrs. I'm a doctor who is trying it out on our hospital but I'm having a hard time making some of the modules to work. Could anyone help me with the registration module?
00:56:59 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13306]: Removing a spurious log.error <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13306> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13305]: chicaops -- Initial import. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13305> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13304]: Fixing a misspelling in liquibase-update-to-latest <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13304>
01:02:50 <chopin> galinganmd: i'm not as familiar as i should be with the registration module, but i can try
01:02:56 <chopin> what's wrong?
01:06:27 <galinganmd> when I click the find/create icon, the module already gets identifiers that I have already uploaded
01:07:21 <galinganmd> I think the module should just get the identifiers once the patient is saved to the system
01:08:01 <bwolfe> galinganmd: what do you mean already gets identifiers?
01:08:28 <bwolfe> (I'm in the same boat as chopin, I'm not tooo familiar with the registration module)
01:09:21 <galinganmd> I uploaded a bunch of ids from a csv file to the registration module. Try clicking the find/create icon a bunch of time and you will see the number of identifiers gradually decreasing per click
01:10:40 <bwolfe> galinganmd: interesting. are you using the latest registration module?
01:10:54 <galinganmd> yes
01:11:23 <galinganmd> i think its 1.0.0.2. I'll check first
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01:17:07 <chopin> hrm
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01:19:43 <galinganmd> sorry, my connection got cut
01:20:55 <galinganmd> I can't check my server because I put it in my Ubuntu OS. I'm currently using my windows OS. I'm very sure though that I used the latest registration module
01:21:29 <galinganmd> This is as long as a latest version was not put up within last month
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01:23:35 <galinganmd> I am currently trying to implement a new id system in the Philippines and we've managed to get it up by manually typing the identifiers. This has proven to be costly and I'm trying to get things cheaper by using the registration module
01:25:31 <Mkop> bwolfe: modules.openmrs.org is giving an error
01:27:39 <bwolfe> galinganmd: for just identifier stuff, you can try the mrngen module or the idgen module
01:28:26 <bwolfe> Mkop: bah
01:28:33 <bwolfe> Mkop: wheres downeym when you need him
01:29:08 <Mkop> sleeping under his desk?
01:32:54 <bwolfe> Mkop: probably, he's a slacker
01:33:21 <Mkop> I actually meant it the other way around
01:33:30 <Mkop> it's only 9 PM, he can't have left work by now....
01:42:44 <galinganmd> @bwolfe: I've tried the idgen module but we found it hard to regulate the identifiers. I haven't tried the mrngen. I'll try it later
01:45:14 <Mkop> galinganmd: is this on a production system?
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01:48:51 <galinganmd> +Mkop: What do you mean by production system? I'm sorry I am not familiar with the terms
01:49:27 <Mkop> production system means a system that's being used live with actual patients, as opposed to a system being used only for testing
01:50:48 <galinganmd> its production system. We've already implemented the id system on one hospital. We wish to test the registration module to reduce costs
02:02:13 <Mkop> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Idgen_Module says that they're planning to add capability for storage of a local pool of identifiers
02:02:43 <Mkop> they also have remote identifier source, which might work for you
02:03:06 <Mkop> it says what they have is fairly "prototypical", so I'm not sure how well it works
02:07:06 <galinganmd> That's nice to hear. I hope they get it to work. I also hope that this bug with the registration module gets fixed. thanks but I think I'll have to try the mrngen first because we need a solution at once.
02:08:45 <Mkop> what difficulties did you have with idgen?
02:09:03 <bwolfe> galinganmd: might help to file a ticket abt it in trac to make sure that gets fixed
02:09:40 <Mkop> if you want the idgen stuff to get worked on, try drop an email to mseaton at pih dot org
02:12:20 <galinganmd> @bwolfe: I already applied for a username for the forums but I cant get to log in. I'll try when I get to log in
02:13:12 <galinganmd> +Mkop: thanks, I really needed some tech support since there are no java programmers in our agency
02:13:42 <Mkop> galinganmd: when you say the forums, do you mean trac?
02:14:21 <bwolfe> galinganmd: trac is http://dev.openmrs.org and it is the ticket tracker (feature + bug reporting)
02:14:37 <bwolfe> forum.openmrs.org isn't used very much
02:14:49 <Mkop> what's your time frame on getting this done?
02:15:08 <Mkop> when you say "right away", does that mean today, this week, ....?
02:18:38 <galinganmd> @bwolfe: I still don't know how to use the trac. I'll go over it later. I don't know if I need to be logged in to write the bugs. If I need to be logged in, I need to have my account fixed first.
02:19:44 <galinganmd> +Mkop: I need to get it done within this week or we'll have to go back to our costly protocol
02:20:18 <bwolfe> galinganmd: why/how is it costly?
02:20:36 <bwolfe> galinganmd: our user accounts are not linked yet. so the wiki (openmrs.org), forum, and trac all have differnet accounts.
02:26:24 <galinganmd> We print stickers and label patient records with our new identifiers. These stickers have barcodes which could be read with a barcode reader and are inputted in the system. With the registration module, we would not need to print these stickers and manually place them on the records or require a barcode scanner to ensure no mistakes in inputting the identifiers.
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02:27:31 <galinganmd> I see that may be the reason why I can't log in to the forums. I'll try the trac later
02:27:32 <bwolfe> galinganmd: wouldn't you need the barcode scanner anyway for when the patients return ?
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06:00:23 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Trouble with ATD module <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=591#p2227>
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07:00:38 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2323 (defect created): bug with registration module version 1.0.3 <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2323>
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09:45:25 <astelmashenko> hi all
10:02:09 <pascal`> hi astelmashenko
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12:38:13 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #820 (task reopened): Default Privileges for Provider Role <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/820#comment:8>
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13:14:10 <chopin> nribeka: where are you?
13:14:29 <nribeka> hi chopin
13:14:34 <nribeka> i'm on vacation
13:14:38 <chopin> oh?!?
13:14:43 <nribeka> lying on white sand beach in Bali
13:14:56 <chopin> so you are asleep ...
13:15:45 <nribeka> boo chopin
13:16:40 <chopin> !gsoc
13:16:40 <OpenMRSBot> chopin: "gsoc" --- More information about OpenMRS and Google Summer of Code 2010 is available at http://soc2010.openmrs.org/
13:24:06 <bwolfe> nribeka: if you were on a beach in bali you wouldn't even have enough bandwidth for irc :-)
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13:24:33 <chopin> http://www.webcambali.com/
13:24:40 <pascal`> hi chopin
13:24:45 <pascal`> hey nribeka
13:24:48 <pascal`> 'lo downeym
13:24:59 <bwolfe> WE HAD TO RELOCATE IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY AND WE WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO SHARE THE SCENERIES FROM BALI
13:25:09 <chopin> yes
13:25:28 <chopin> win would be coding in the dark
13:25:53 <downeym> bwolfe: RELOCATE TO WHERE?
13:26:01 <bwolfe> downeym: THEY DIDN"T SAY
13:26:08 <bwolfe> " == a capitalized '
13:26:19 <downeym> bwolfe: THAT"S TOO BAD>
13:26:35 <nribeka> lol
13:27:15 <nribeka> i will setup my webcam
13:29:12 <downeym> nribeka: use ustream
13:30:24 <nribeka> with 1.4Kbps connection downeym?
13:30:42 <downeym> nribeka: haha
13:31:50 <downeym> nribeka: use satellite phone
13:32:10 <nribeka> yeah, that's the plan. to enable me to skype the folks there :D
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13:40:30 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Does OpenMRS have any inherit functionality to check patient <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=594#p2229>
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13:51:59 <downeym> Echidna: http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=8779&rss
13:54:01 <Echidna> downeym: when was that?
13:54:05 <Echidna> seems to work for me
13:54:19 <Echidna> oh ok
13:54:29 <Echidna> 2.5h ago
13:55:46 <downeym> time to upgrade BIND :)
13:56:52 <Mkop> bwolfe: my hosting company has been working overtime since we last spoke in an effort to win you a new customer
13:57:15 <bwolfe> Mkop: lol
13:57:18 <bwolfe> Mkop: now what'd they do ?
13:57:49 <bwolfe> Mkop: export/import of cpanel content is pretty easy ;-)
13:59:03 <Mkop> bwolfe: taking multiple hours to respond to a ticket with a garbage answer
13:59:58 <Mkop> now I'm on the phone with them
14:02:15 <Echidna> how many hours?
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14:03:59 <Mkop> I actually only waited for 15 minutes
14:04:05 <Mkop> then spoke to him for 10 minutes
14:04:10 <Mkop> but of course, he can't help me
14:04:17 <Mkop> only the "senior technicians"
14:04:24 <Mkop> who are only available by email
14:04:24 <Echidna> whats the problem
14:04:35 <Mkop> 500 error
14:04:40 <Echidna> and whats is their response time supposed to be
14:04:57 <Mkop> that doesn't show up in the logs available to me on cpanel
14:05:12 <Mkop> their response time is supposed to be "within the hour"
14:05:49 <Mkop> I submitted the ticket at 6 PM last night, got a response at 9, another response at 12, another response at 3, another response at 4
14:06:37 <downeym> cpanel ftl
14:06:56 <Mkop> it's not a cpanel fail
14:06:59 <Mkop> it's a justhost.com fail
14:07:08 <downeym> i mean the idea of cpanel is FTL :)
14:07:31 <downeym> and this is coming from a usability guy
14:08:34 <Mkop> oh
14:08:41 <Mkop> what's wrong with the idea?
14:08:56 <Mkop> bwolfe: does your $5 perhaps include shell access?
14:09:10 <Mkop> so I can tail -f the error log or the like?
14:09:37 <downeym> Mkop: i have this controversial stance that some things shouldn't be attempted to be made simple
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14:09:49 <downeym> Mkop: (and yes that sentence was intentionally complex) :)
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14:09:56 <bwolfe> Mkop: hmm
14:11:18 <Mkop> downeym: i.e., the web would be a better place if not for the crappy websites put up by people who need to use cpanel?
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14:12:39 <downeym> Mkop: No, it's not that as much as it is that attempts to simplify things that are necessarily somewhat complex tend to be pretty poor
14:13:06 <Echidna> downeym is a gatekeeper =P
14:13:18 <downeym> It should be easy to drive a car, but it doesn't need to be easy to perform maintenance on it
14:13:27 <Echidna> hah tell me about it
14:13:28 <downeym> there is a place in the world for specialists :)
14:13:41 <Echidna> to replace a headlight bulb on my car, you need to take off the front bumper, then remove the headlight
14:13:47 <Echidna> otherwise you cant access the bulb
14:14:20 <downeym> Echidna: perhaps that's something reasonable to simplify, but why should BMW spend lots of time making it easier to rebuild your engine?
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14:14:26 <Mkop> downeym: what things does it fail at simplifying?
14:14:33 <Mkop> I think that in general, it does a pretty good job
14:15:20 <Echidna> downeym: bmw wouldnt, but a third party might
14:15:30 <Echidna> sucks for bmw but good for others
14:15:42 <downeym> Mkop: i challenge anyone to a cpanel vs. command-line-and-vi speed race to manage a large virtual host implementation ;-)
14:16:13 <Echidna> does it have to be vi?
14:16:30 <downeym> Echidna: vi is fastest
14:16:33 <downeym> vi++
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14:17:17 <Mkop> I challenge anyone to a cpanel vs. linux instruction race to get 100 newbies managing simple websites
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14:17:39 <downeym> a newbie doesn't need to manage a web site
14:18:19 <downeym> there are plenty of apps that accomplish the need to publish information without technical expertise ;)
14:18:26 <Mkop> depends how you define newbie
14:18:53 <Mkop> take me for example
14:19:08 <Mkop> I can go on cpanel, click "add subdomain", and 24 hours later, boom there it is
14:19:29 <Mkop> it would take me a while to learn how to edit apache.conf etc. to make that happen
14:19:50 <Mkop> aside from the fact that it also creates the DNS record at the same time
14:20:07 <bwolfe> Mkop: why is it taking 24 hours?
14:20:17 <Mkop> for the DNS to propagate
14:20:56 <Mkop> either that, or for the justhost support monkeys to manually edit the apache.conf from their home in India
14:21:01 <downeym> lol
14:21:31 <downeym> (+) newhost IN A 127.0.0.1
14:21:32 <bwolfe> Mkop: ha. I let my server control the dns, not my host, and the subdomains are accessible immediately
14:22:26 <Echidna> monkeys have homes in india? =o
14:22:46 <Mkop> bwolfe: really?
14:23:09 <bwolfe> Mkop: really.
14:23:25 <Mkop> I didn't realize that was possible.
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14:24:18 <downeym> sed -e 's/old/new' old.site.com > new.site.com; a2ensite new.site.com; /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
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14:24:43 <downeym> +/g oops lol
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16:15:19 <Mkop> http://www.lukesurl.com/archives/1374
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17:48:57 <downeym> http://shazsterblog.blogspot.com/ <- OpenMRS Sri Lanka team
17:50:04 <bwolfe> its missing an upul
17:50:17 <downeym> hey, yeah it is
17:50:24 <bwolfe> firzhan: you should find and call upul for your next get together
17:50:25 <downeym> maybe upul was taking the photo :)
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17:50:31 <bwolfe> he has TONS of openmrs knowledge
17:50:47 <downeym> upul should be mentor
17:50:59 <firzhan> bwolfe: yeah sure
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18:45:48 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13312]: mdrtb: updated runtime exception to pass on underlying exception for … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13312> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1993 (enhancement closed): HTML Form Entry visible to all users under Administration <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1993#comment:3> || OpenMRS Modules: HTML Form Entry 1.6.3.2 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <https://dev.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=htmlformentry&version=&1.6.3.2>
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19:15:58 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #270 (task closed): Copy the standard openmrs-infopath javascript file into the xsn <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/270#comment:10> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13313]: for #270 updated FormEntry to always pull infopath js file from sample … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13313> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Trouble with ATD module <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=591#p2231> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Regarding Appointment In OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=593#p2230> || OpenMRS Modules: Form Entry 4.4.3 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <https://dev.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=formentry&version=&4.4.3>
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19:48:04 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13314]: Followup fix for Login Redirect Going to Proper Page - #1998 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13314> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Does OpenMRS have any inherit functionality to check patient <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=594#p2232>
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20:18:12 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2001 (task closed): Change Encounter Admin Search to Include search by Name <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2001#comment:14> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13315]: Change Encounter Admin Search to Include search by Name - #2001 Author: … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13315>
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20:26:14 <astelmashenko> hi nribeka
20:26:45 <astelmashenko> nribeka: please see ticket 2209 when you have time
20:27:31 <nribeka> !ticket 2209
20:27:31 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: Ticket #2209: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2209
20:48:20 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2324 (task closed): "Manage Users" visible to all users under Administration <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2324#comment:1> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13316]: Fixing "Manage Users" visible to all users under Administration - #2324 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13316>
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21:18:27 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2275 (defect closed): Person Attribute Edit Privilege - Doesn't display result name if user doesn't have permission for concepts <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2275#comment:5> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13317]: Person Attribute Edit Privilege - Doesn't display result name if user … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13317>
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21:47:15 <downeym> cya *
21:50:33 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1716 (defect closed): Merging two patients voids the corresponding patient record but not the person record <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1716#comment:11> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13318]: Merging two patients voids the corresponding patient record but not the … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13318>
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22:50:50 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13319]: Fixing .classpath to point at junit jars included with OpenMRS rather than … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13319>
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