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<pascal`> hey upul`
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<chopin> hi everyone
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<chopin> hrm, first time ubuntu 10.04 is freaking out on me re: displays
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<bwolfe> chopin: via docking/undocking?
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<chopin> bwolfe: docked
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<chopin> annnd back
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<danielf`> hey chopin, reading through your comments now
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<chopin> danielf`: cool
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<Hazamonzo> Hi openMRS developers
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<Hazamonzo> I have no questions... i just thought i would say something
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<pascal`> hi Hazamonzo
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<pascal`> hey chopin
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<Hazamonzo> Hello pascal
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<Hazamonzo> Im hoping to use some spare time to work on the data warehouse side of openMRS
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<chopin> pascal`: hey-o
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<Hazamonzo> as i promised over two years ago
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<chopin> hi Hazamonzo
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<Hazamonzo> Hello chopin
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<wyclif> chopin, who said that?
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<chopin> wyclif: it's an old pun
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<wyclif> chopin, looks like am in for some cultural shocks
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<wyclif> chopin, coz i always use it
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<bwolfe> Hazamonzo: have you met justin already?
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<chopin> wyclif: haha, you can say "hey" all you want ... everyone does!
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<chopin> wyclif: but sometimes someone will say "hay is for horses"
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<chopin> wyclif: and think to yourself, "that guy is trying to be funny."
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<wyclif> chopin, ok, i was starting to get worried that i have been offending people ignorantly
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<bwolfe> unless its your grandmother, then you smile and act like it was hilarious
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<bwolfe> (like I have to do)
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<wyclif> he he he
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<Hazamonzo> bwolfe: I have. A couple of years back now :)
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<Hazamonzo> Well. Not in person
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<bwolfe> Hazamonzo: cool. he's the one that did all the data warehouse stuff
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<bwolfe> I'm sure he could point you at a project or two to work on related to that. :-)
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<Hazamonzo> bwolfe: No doubt :)
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<chopin> bwolfe, wyclif, nribeka: did we decide that i should throw an error (stop processing an HL7 message) when an NK1 segment is invalid?
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<chopin> or let it keep going?
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<chopin> !ticket 1742
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<OpenMRSBot> chopin: Ticket #1742: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1742
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<chopin> i think i might prefer to toss the error
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<chopin> and it'll reduce my code by 5 lines
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<chopin> most of which are curly braces
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<chopin> yup
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<wyclif> coz that gets caught by the processor and iot moves to the next message
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<chopin> wyclif: in -theory-
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<chopin> although, the router throws an ApplicationException
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<chopin> can't wait to revamp that router
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<wyclif> he he
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<nribeka> exception chopin
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<astelmashenko> hi all
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<james_regen> bwolfe: i have a question that i'd guess has been answered on some mailing list or in a call, but my searching hasn't found it yet
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<bwolfe> james_regen: 42
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<james_regen> how many miles must a man walk? was that the question?
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<james_regen> previous years, i think there were OpenMRS VMs that were created and setup for all the interns and GSoC students, right? to provide OpenMRS environments for development?
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<downeym> james_regen: there were - they were recently (last weekend) shut off without notice by verio who had donated them :(
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<james_regen> downeym: thanks for the information. does that mean there won't be a similar resource or environment available this year?
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<chopin> 5000
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<downeym> james_regen: nothing we've been able to provision so far :( but still looking for alternatives
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<bwolfe> chopin: its actually "over 9000!!!"
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<james_regen> bwolfe: yeah, that sounds right. that's going to be open to GSoC?
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<chopin> bwolfe: i was thinking of The Proclaimers
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<chopin> but it was 500
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<bwolfe> james_regen: thats what downeym was referring to as "shut off without notice". so nothing like that is available until we can find someone to host it
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<james_regen> okay. i read that the modules.openmrs.org was shut off, but didn't realize it was more than that
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<downeym> so far the best we have is IU's research database complex, but shell logins are only available to IU affiliates :-(
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<nribeka> what happen to link james_regen?
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<bwolfe> "just"
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<downeym> bwolfe: actually modules was shut off temporarily at one point, no?
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<downeym> bwolfe: check for old core dumps
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: On Twitter: OpenMRS: RT @sunil_abraham: Planning a #FOSS + health workshop with iosn.net & mahiti.org. Looking for doctors interested in tech. #OpenMRS #eHealth <http://twitter.com/OpenMRS/statuses/13799392880>
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<downeym> http://googletranslate.blogspot.com/2010/05/giving-voice-to-more-languages-on.html
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/6ZG+> (at googletranslate.blogspot.com)
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<downeym> new swahili text-to-speech :)
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<Mkop> sketchy (adj.): When you log in to live chat with your hosting company, and the dude says, "Please can you tell me your cpanel username and password."
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<downeym> heh
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<Mkop> downeym: can you tell me if you can access http://rivka.klm-computing.com/?
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<downeym> 403 error
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<Mkop> hmm, that's better than I'm getting
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<Mkop> that means DNS works
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<downeym> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/rivka.klm-computing.com
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/6ZGx> (at downforeveryoneorjustme.com)
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<downeym> yeah i'm def resolving dns here
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<Mkop> that site isn't resolving DNS
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<Mkop> I did not just make changes
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<Mkop> I created the subdomain maybe 24 hours ago
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<downeym> that's not unheard of
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<Mkop> and when I went to it I got a 500 error
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<Mkop> then I changed permissions on the file
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<Mkop> and got a DNS problem
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<downeym> http://www.kloth.net/services/nslookup.php is resolving it
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<downeym> your file permissions changes shouldn't be connected to dns at all
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<Mkop> yeah
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<downeym> dns propagation can take as much as 36-72 hours in some places
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<Mkop> I suspect that in the 30 seconds I changed it, my DNS decided to switch servers or something
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<Mkop> actually, I think I made the subdomain sun. night.
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<Mkop> so it's 36 by now
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<downeym> like *really* low :)
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<Mkop> how do I do that?
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<downeym> TTL is basically how long the record will be cached
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<Mkop> for the amount of traffic I get, and the frequency that I create new subdomains for this or that little project, low TTL is a good thing for me
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<downeym> yeah perhaps
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<downeym> TTL is actually set for each and every dns record
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<Mkop> I think we bought the domain from godaddy, and then told godaddy to use josthost.com's nameservers
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<Mkop> now, I create subdomains from within cpanel
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<downeym> ok then you need to talk to josthost
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<downeym> Mkop: godaddy can manager your dns too, if you want it to
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<Mkop> so if I want to create a new subdomain.klm-computing.com, I'd create it in godaddy and then tell it to use the justhost NS for that subdomain?
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<Mkop> or I'd need to manually tell it whatever the justhost NS has?
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<downeym> Mkop: it's not possible with godaddy, but DNS *could* theoretically allow that. but i wouldn't recommend it because it gets too complicated :)
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<downeym> my recommendation is to manage an entire domain in one system
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<Mkop> I think keeping DNS and hosting with the same people is probably easiest for now
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<Mkop> yeah, that's what I'm doing, only problem is that that system doesn't allow me to do things like set TTL
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<downeym> ahh yes
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<downeym> find a new host :P
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<Mkop> you have a suggestion for a company offering unlimited hosting for $5/mo?
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<downeym> 1&1 ;-)
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<bwolfe> Mkop: unlimited bandwidth or unlimited disk space?
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<Mkop> both
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<downeym> personally i use mediatemple lately
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<Mkop> though bandwidth is not much of a concern
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<downeym> "unlimited" is never really unlimited
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<bwolfe> Mkop: I could give you about 5gb of space and unlimited bandwidth for $5 a month. (comes with a cpanel + fantastico)
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<Mkop> bwolfe: unlimited subdomains?
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<bwolfe> Mkop: I have a reseller account on godaddy for my domains. its just one box for my friends/family that have websites.
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<bwolfe> downeym++ for integrating balsimiq into jira already
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<bwolfe> hmm, probalby has to be on its own line:
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<bwolfe> downeym++
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<downeym> i don't think balsamiq++ has to be on its own line
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<downeym> ;-)
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<bwolfe> yes, I think balsamiq++ does
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<OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Karma for "balsamiq" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
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<bwolfe> downeym: your test there needed a "sanity check" for the existing karma :-)
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<downeym> fail
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<chopin> downeym: didn't hear a peep from you about lunch today!
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<downeym> chopin: was i supposed to peep?
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<downeym> wyclif and I went to subway ;-)
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<chopin> ah
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<chopin> ;-)
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<chopin> see y'all later
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<downeym> l8r
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<downeym> bwolfe: mockups plugin will also be present on confluence
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<djazayeri> Balsamiq is the bomb.
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<djazayeri> (Also, my favorite kind of vinegar)
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<downeym> today is RAM's birthday
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<bwolfe> RAM?
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<bwolfe> The Ram ?
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<downeym> you know --- ram
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<downeym> random access memory lol
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<downeym> http://www.wired.com/thisdayintech/2010/05/0511magnetic-core-memory
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/6ZKu> (at www.wired.com)
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<Mkop> downeym: have you switched to use non-physical RAM yet? http://www.downloadmoreram.com/
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<downeym> downloading more ram is against university policy :)
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<Mkop> as long as you stay within your bandwidth quota it should be OK, no?:
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<bwolfe> downeym: sweet, thanks! I clicked on 4gb 5 times. now I have 20 gb of ram. I think I'll take out the ram I have in my laptop and sell it on ebay
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<downeym> bwolfe: don't thank me
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<downeym> Mkop: will just wait to get home to download more ram
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<downeym> wyclif: dood download more ram :)
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<wyclif> why?
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<downeym> speed up your laptop
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<Mkop> bwolfe: I hope you have a 64 bit system.
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<downeym> http://www.downloadmoreram.com/
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<Mkop> maybe you even need a 65 bit system
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<downeym> i have a 128-bit
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<Mkop> oh.
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<bwolfe> Mkop: uh oh. can I download 1 more bit? I only have a 64bit
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<Mkop> then you can download TONS of RAM
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<Mkop> hehehehe
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<downeym> do i need to upload my old ram to get rid of it?
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<Mkop> I don't know if you can download that.
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<Mkop> downeym: only if you want to donate it for others.
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<downeym> i mean if i want to swap it out for new
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<downeym> my ram may have a virus
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<Mkop> you can put it in the recycle bin.
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<Mkop> downeym: can you take an old CPU, smash it, and give a piece to bwolfe? He needs one more bit to handle the downloadable RAM.
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<downeym> you mean trash (mac)
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<downeym> Mkop: shhh, it's waiting on his desk for him tomorrow
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<Mkop> oh, COOL! Can you download Ram on a mac too?
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<downeym> gift
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<downeym> yeah you can
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<Mkop> downeym: you need to email it to him
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<downeym> i'll put it on slashtmp
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<Mkop> I remember when Keelhaul was around here all the time
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<downeym> Mkop: the best domain i ever owned was doubleslashdotcom.com
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<bwolfe> downeym: I have closedmrs.com :-)
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<downeym> sweet
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<downeym> bwolfe: found new music for thursday call ... http://www.retroaudiolab.com/audio/driveinrecord1.mp3
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