IRC Chat : 2010-05-04 - OpenMRS

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00:34:01 <chopin> o/ all
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00:50:32 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2307 (enhancement created): Sync In Progress Indicator <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2307>
00:54:45 <chopin> hi downeym
00:54:52 <downeym> hey chopin
00:55:04 <chopin> sorry, ran out on you today
00:55:05 <chopin> :-)
00:57:29 <downeym> heh no worries
00:57:52 <downeym> remind me tomorrow
00:58:39 <chopin> k
01:03:34 <chopin> downeym: did you have any problems with the 1.6.0 demo data on your system?
01:03:42 <downeym> hmm, no
01:03:49 <chopin> i think the zip is ... corrupted?
01:03:50 <downeym> what kind of problems?
01:03:51 <downeym> nah
01:03:57 <chopin> at least in ubuntu it thinks so
01:03:57 <chopin> :-/
01:04:02 <downeym> maybe you didn't download it completely?
01:04:05 <chopin> hrm
01:04:09 * chopin tries again
01:05:08 <chopin> that may have worked
01:05:12 <chopin> used wget instead of chrome
01:05:13 <chopin> :-)
01:10:33 <downeym> yes. wget ftw
01:10:34 <downeym> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSlb7-FJr3k
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01:32:45 <downeym> hi fixl
01:32:58 <fixl> good morning
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02:20:56 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2308 (defect created): Error sync-ing person attributes that are simple strings. <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2308>
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09:50:29 <pascal`> hey upul`
09:50:30 <pascal`> hey rcrichton
09:52:27 <rcrichton> Hi pascal`
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10:02:15 <astelmashenko> hi all
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10:17:54 <MalteF> hi all
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10:38:27 <MalteF> hi pascal`
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12:20:45 <chopin> does anyone have a way they currently look for duplicate encounters?
12:21:13 <wyclif> what makes an encounter a duplicate?
12:21:36 <wyclif> i talked about this with Burke and Paul
12:22:11 <fixl> G'day #openmrs
12:22:27 <wyclif> and it seemed like we weren't sure about what makes an encounter a duplicate besides the id
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12:23:47 <chopin> true
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12:24:22 <chopin> we are concerned at AMPATH that a pile of FormEntry forms were processed twice
12:24:46 <chopin> so, this would require some kind of registry (like the archives) for recognizing if one had come through before
12:24:54 <chopin> like using a MD5 hash to detect
12:25:05 <chopin> but ... we store the archives on the filesystem now
12:25:07 <chopin> :-/
12:25:41 <chopin> maybe we should use a UUID for each incoming entry -in- the form
12:25:54 <chopin> a v4 random uuid
12:31:43 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13216]: amrsmobileforms: Minor changes <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13216>
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12:56:18 <downeym> hi :)
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13:03:48 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13217]: amrsmobileforms: RelationshipBuilder removed irrelevant log messages <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13217> || OpenMRS Forum: Remote Form Entry <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=588#p2210>
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13:05:03 <downeym> all hail, bwolfe_
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13:07:31 <bwolfe> thanks downeym. now only if you recognized me like htat when I walk into a real room...
13:07:49 <Shazin> :D
13:07:52 <downeym> my real-life welcome script is faulty :D
13:08:30 <Shazin> May I ask who is the boss ?
13:08:40 <Shazin> Michael or Ben?
13:09:06 <bwolfe> OpenMRSBot
13:09:07 <downeym> wyclif is the boss ;-)
13:09:39 <wyclif> hey ben
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13:09:47 <bwolfe> hi wyclif
13:10:59 <downeym> hi wyclif
13:16:40 <chopin> bwolfe: you don't use the sysdeo tomcat eclipse plugin huh?
13:16:53 <chopin> do you have something else set up to debug via tomcat?
13:18:26 <bwolfe> chopin: never heard of that
13:18:37 <bwolfe> chopin: I just debug with the default eclipse setup
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13:18:51 <bwolfe> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developer_How-To_Use_Eclipse_Guide
13:18:52 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5A2a> (at openmrs.org)
13:18:57 <chopin> bwolfe: need ... heh
13:19:06 * chopin reads the manual
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13:20:45 <wyclif> the header pages for the velocity pages were not updated
13:21:00 <wyclif> to point to the new jquery file
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13:21:25 <wyclif> and they are using jquery instead of $j
13:21:25 <pbrandt> hey chopin
13:22:17 <bwolfe> wyclif: do you know where the velocity pages are? can you fix them?
13:22:35 <wyclif> yeah
13:22:49 <wyclif> there are 3 hearder.vm pages
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13:23:39 <bwolfe> yep
13:23:44 <wyclif> i know of these header pages that i think are included by all velocity pages
13:24:16 <wyclif> so running updates and initial setup scripts can't work
13:32:11 <bwolfe> it does work, the web view just doesn't update or have helpful javascript :-)
13:35:26 <wyclif> right it works, i meant the scripts are the one not working
13:35:34 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2291 (task reopened): Upgrade to JQuery 1.4.2 in core <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2291#comment:4>
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13:42:57 <upul`> Welcome Guest64871
13:43:07 <downeym> bwolfe: To link a commit to a JIRA issue, the commit's text must contain the issue key (eg. "This commit fixes QUX-1 ").
13:43:36 <Guest64871> frik
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13:44:10 <bwolfe> downeym: yeah, sounds about right
13:44:13 <upul`> Frik was an Armenian poet of the 13th century and 14th century. He lived in the time of Mongolian occupation of Armenian land.
13:44:26 <bwolfe> downeym: I guess jira has a subversion hook/listener then
13:44:51 <downeym> bwolfe: yes, provided i configured it right ;-)
13:45:30 <bwolfe> upul`: ha. that would be assume if you had known that off the top of your head. I'd love to be able to spout random facts for random works in real life. :-)
13:45:41 * downeym begs someone to commit something with 'QUX-6' in the comment
13:47:37 <upul`> Qux is, in logic, mathematics and computer science, a metasyntactic variable (also metalinguistic variable) is a symbol or set of symbols in a metalanguage which stands for a symbol or set of symbols in some object language.
13:48:06 <downeym> qux follows baz ;)
13:49:24 <upul`> eclipse has a blank 1cm thick status bar :-o
13:50:13 <upul`> lots of wasted space on my 14 inch screen
13:50:31 <downeym> fail
13:51:05 <downeym> i suppose you could buy a larger screen ;)
13:51:53 <upul`> or write a letter to the eclipse people
13:52:11 <upul`> hope next ubuntu will combine the title bar and menubar
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13:56:23 <bwolfe> thats a gnome thing really
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13:56:43 <bwolfe> upul`: thats a gnome thing really, not ubuntu
13:57:01 <bwolfe> and you would lose a lot of the handle to grab and move a window
13:57:27 <upul`> yeah i liked the old kde
13:57:58 <upul`> kubuntu 8.04 LTS was the best
13:58:33 <bwolfe> was that kde3 ?
13:58:48 <bwolfe> is kde3 still supported at all? even just by the community?
13:59:26 <bwolfe> sweet! just used "alien" on ubuntu to convert an RPM to a DEB!
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14:00:44 <upul`> no idea, it was the one before they started writing by sctrach
14:02:45 <bwolfe> yeah, kde4 was the from scratch one
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14:03:22 <bwolfe> but gnome is bad about spacing.
14:03:26 <bwolfe> and eclipse is bad about spacing
14:03:36 <bwolfe> so put them together, and its really noticeable
14:04:27 <upul`> they should be forced to work in 14 inch screens
14:07:10 <bwolfe> or just 1024x768 resolution
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14:36:08 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Remote Form Entry <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=588#p2211>
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14:59:53 <upul`> such is life
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15:08:15 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2291 (task closed): Upgrade to JQuery 1.4.2 in core <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2291#comment:7> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13218]: Updating the velocity header templates to point to the current jquery file … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13218>
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15:39:30 <bwolfe> argh. mylyn doesn't want to connect to trac anymore.
15:39:56 <bwolfe> downeym: hurry up with that jira instance so I don't have to be annoyed with this long enough to have to figure out the answer :-p
15:40:10 <downeym> heh
15:40:31 <downeym> bwolfe: want to draft up a mail about our proposed workflow?
15:40:59 <bwolfe> sure. have you electronified it? or do I have to do it all from memory?
15:41:48 <downeym> it exists within QUX only ;-)
15:42:03 <bwolfe> hmm
15:42:29 <downeym> i need a flowchart app
15:43:44 <bwolfe> downeym: can you link me to where I can see them laid out? :-)
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15:48:12 <chopin> !refer downeym inkscape
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16:10:55 <raffael> hi
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16:33:39 <bwolfe> hi raffael
16:35:49 <raffael> bwolfe: hi
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16:54:33 <downeym> !refer bwolfe post-it note
16:54:33 * OpenMRSBot refers bwolfe to post-it note
16:55:02 <bwolfe> I have a post-it note?
16:58:48 <bwolfe> downeym: chopin is right. inkscape has a flowchart ability. (create boxes and then link them and the links follow if you move the boxes)
17:00:05 <downeym> sweet thx
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17:37:00 <chopin> what's the new openmrs portlet that darius wrote for editing module-specific GPs?
17:38:14 <chopin> <openmrs:portletname="globalProperties"> i presume
17:40:01 <bwolfe> chopin: theres a wiki page for it I thikn
17:40:25 * chopin looks
17:40:47 <chopin> http://openmrs.org/wiki/How_to_use_the_global_properties_portlet
17:40:48 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5cZV> (at openmrs.org)
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17:44:50 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2310 (defect created): Parameter mismatch parsing signatures section in dwr.xml <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2310> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2309 (defect created): Error occurs after uploading a report that is designed in BIRT 2.5.2 <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2309>
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18:14:59 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13221]: converted PcsLabInterfaceQueue to LabMessage, added LabMessageArchive, and … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13221> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13220]: updated module page to use globalProperties portlet <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13220> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2303 (defect closed): Fail to get value from HashMap with Concept object as the key <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2303#comment:4> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #331 (defect closed): Module engine treats module global properties as case insensitive <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/331#comment:8> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13219]: Fixed Module engine treats module global properties as case insensitive - … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13219>
18:45:06 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #619 (task closed): Improve Global Properties portlet <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/619#comment:23> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13222]: Improve Global Properties portlet - #619 Author: Harsha.cse <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13222>
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19:15:14 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: how to use HL7 in openMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=587#p2212>
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19:45:15 <chopin> bwolfe: what does "source" refer to with HL7InError?
19:45:22 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13223]: rwandaprimarycarepilot. fixed identifier validator, layouts, error … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13223>
19:45:27 <chopin> and how is it different from SourceKey?
19:45:37 <bwolfe> chopin: is it the hl7_source_id ?
19:45:45 <bwolfe> theres an hl7_source table
19:46:35 <chopin> bwolfe: the problem is that trying to toss the HL7 to an error queue during ORUR01Handler processing requires that I set the source
19:46:44 <chopin> and yet, it isn't in the original code
19:46:50 <chopin> so ... why would some work and others not?
19:46:57 <chopin> unless this code -never- works
19:47:18 <chopin> and why does the unit test work?
19:47:20 <chopin> bleh
19:48:59 <bwolfe> chopin: from Hl7InError.hbm.xml, hl7_source is an FK to hl7_source table
19:49:07 <bwolfe> (but the sql doesn't have that FQ for some reason)
19:49:19 <bwolfe> most people only have one entry in hl7_source
19:49:31 <bwolfe> but the hl7_in_queue item should have an hl7_source set that you can copy
19:52:01 <chopin> what we're getting is just the data
19:52:07 <chopin> so i have to build it
19:52:12 <chopin> just the message
19:52:29 <bwolfe> I see
19:52:36 <chopin> well, here's the nutty thing: my unit test passes
19:52:46 <chopin> and so does one already in there
19:53:27 <chopin> see ORUR01HandlerTest#processMessage_shouldSendMessageToErrorEueueForEmptyConceptProposals
19:53:49 <chopin> so, why does it let me saveHL7InError() with an object that doesn't have the source set?
19:54:15 <bwolfe> in a unit test? not sure. is it a database error you're getting in real life testing?
19:54:21 <bwolfe> or is it a hibernate error?
19:54:35 <chopin> lemme read back ..
19:59:12 <chopin> bwolfe: http://pastebin.com/NvsDZYT2
19:59:44 <bwolfe> so a sql error
20:00:13 <chopin> yep
20:00:21 <chopin> but ... you don't see it in the unit tests
20:00:30 <bwolfe> the unit tests go off the hbm files...which has "not-null="true"" on hl7inerror.source....so I don't konw why its letting you do it
20:00:37 <chopin> hrm
20:00:54 <chopin> makes me wonder how many errors -didn't- make it into the error queue
20:01:02 <chopin> 8-/
20:01:58 <downeym> bwolfe: http://www.gliffy.com/pubdoc/2097568/L.png
20:04:08 <chopin> downeym: plone has this really nifty way to take a UML doc of workflow (state diagram) and convert it into actual workflow within the CMS
20:04:12 <chopin> so you can assign it to a content type
20:04:15 <chopin> it's pretty hot
20:04:19 <bwolfe> downeym: looks right
20:04:22 <downeym> chopin: nice!
20:04:25 <downeym> bwolfe: k
20:04:55 <downeym> chopin: there are jira plugins to do that ($$)
20:05:09 <chopin> same thing with plone archetypes ... take class diagrams and convert to python classes with default views for edit/view
20:05:18 <chopin> pretty snazzy interface
20:05:26 <chopin> i wondered if we could do the same for us tho
20:05:34 <chopin> within OpenMRS
20:05:40 <chopin> the code is open source over at plone
20:05:46 <chopin> just need to translate it ;-)
20:05:52 <chopin> or leave it in python for all i care
20:05:53 <chopin> :-D
20:05:58 <downeym> interesting thought
20:06:09 <downeym> robbyoconnor: is learning python, maybe he can take a look at it ;-)
20:06:09 <chopin> so bwolfe, what do you think is up here?
20:06:23 <chopin> oo, robbyoconnor: python++
20:06:27 <robbyoconnor> I haven't started yet
20:06:33 <robbyoconnor> gonna wing it
20:06:33 <chopin> i heart it
20:06:36 <robbyoconnor> :)
20:07:26 <bwolfe> robbyoconnor: I would suggest not winging it. why not at least make a python app? python is pretty good with their tutorials, etc
20:07:47 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe: heh i will
20:07:55 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe: most of this is web2py
20:07:58 <robbyoconnor> I have examples :)
20:07:59 <chopin> bwolfe: if nothing exists in the sources, will it fail if null?
20:08:01 <bwolfe> chopin: no idea whats up
20:08:09 <bwolfe> chopin: it should
20:08:47 <bwolfe> because it has a non-null constraint on the column...no fk though
20:08:54 * chopin adds a source to oruTest-intialData.xml
20:10:40 <bwolfe> chopin: there isn't one in the standardTestDataset?
20:11:00 <chopin> no
20:11:03 <chopin> wait
20:11:05 <chopin> i'll look
20:11:09 <chopin> heh
20:11:12 <chopin> sorry, i thought you meant oru
20:11:41 <chopin> ooookay i'm wrong
20:11:43 <chopin> :-/
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20:13:40 <downeym> hey ruwan
20:14:35 <ruwan> downeym: hey!
20:14:39 <chopin> that was quick ruwan
20:15:06 <chopin> blah, this is frustrating
20:15:11 <ruwan> chopin: no!
20:15:17 <chopin> at least i fixed PcsLabInterface
20:15:21 <chopin> (it archives now)
20:15:38 <chopin> just so I could get a blasted properly-formatted HL7 file
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20:27:29 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe: I'll be doing a simple thing w/ sahana soonish
20:27:30 <robbyoconnor> next week
20:27:45 <robbyoconnor> my java knowledge and abilities to work w/ the knowledge will help me
20:27:54 <robbyoconnor> and also my knowledge of the concepts
20:28:11 <robbyoconnor> concepts of arrays, maps, etc help \
20:28:20 <robbyoconnor> er my knowledge of*
20:28:31 <downeym> robbyoconnor: you'll have to give us the scoop on sahana when you're done
20:29:00 <bwolfe> python is just all maps
20:29:04 <bwolfe> kind of like javascript
20:33:22 <downeym> new google chrome beta is *fast*
20:33:29 <downeym> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oarMXGq3gI
20:33:31 <bwolfe> as opposed to the current google chrome?
20:33:41 <downeym> yeah check out the tests in that video
20:34:08 <downeym> faster than potatoes
20:34:31 <robbyoconnor> downeym: I will
20:34:36 <robbyoconnor> http://robbyoconnor.blogspot.com
20:34:45 <robbyoconnor> I'm writing a tool to design surveys lol
20:34:52 <robbyoconnor> ... and I have to spec it out on my own
20:35:06 <robbyoconnor> wireframes and all LOL
20:35:21 <robbyoconnor> I wanna use extjs like its going out of style lol
20:35:35 <robbyoconnor> somebody used it wrong and slowed sahana to a crawl
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20:38:17 <chopin> bwolfe: fire in the hole
20:38:28 <chopin> not sure what we can do with it
20:38:50 <chopin> i don't like hl7InError.setSource(new HL7Source(1));
20:40:01 <bwolfe> yeah, pretty hacky
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20:44:39 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe: I still wish they used django :X
20:44:49 <robbyoconnor> it's not precisely OO (which i'm used to)
20:44:49 <robbyoconnor> :/
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