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<chopin> k
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<chopin> hrm
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<chopin> that may have worked
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<chopin> does anyone have a way they currently look for duplicate encounters?
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<chopin> true
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<chopin> we are concerned at AMPATH that a pile of FormEntry forms were processed twice
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<bwolfe> thanks downeym. now only if you recognized me like htat when I walk into a real room...
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<downeym> my real-life welcome script is faulty :D
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<chopin> bwolfe: you don't use the sysdeo tomcat eclipse plugin huh?
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<bwolfe> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developer_How-To_Use_Eclipse_Guide
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<downeym> bwolfe: To link a commit to a JIRA issue, the commit's text must contain the issue key (eg. "This commit fixes QUX-1â").
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<Guest64871> frik
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<upul`> Frik was an Armenian poet of the 13th century and 14th century. He lived in the time of Mongolian occupation of Armenian land.
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<upul`> eclipse has a blank 1cm thick status bar :-o
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<upul`> lots of wasted space on my 14 inch screen
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<downeym> it exists within QUX only ;-)
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<chopin> what's the new openmrs portlet that darius wrote for editing module-specific GPs?
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<chopin> <openmrs:portletname="globalProperties"> i presume
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<bwolfe> chopin: theres a wiki page for it I thikn
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<chopin> http://openmrs.org/wiki/How_to_use_the_global_properties_portlet
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<chopin> bwolfe: what does "source" refer to with HL7InError?
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<chopin> and how is it different from SourceKey?
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<bwolfe> chopin: is it the hl7_source_id ?
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<bwolfe> theres an hl7_source table
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<chopin> bwolfe: the problem is that trying to toss the HL7 to an error queue during ORUR01Handler processing requires that I set the source
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<chopin> and yet, it isn't in the original code
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<chopin> so ... why would some work and others not?
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<chopin> unless this code -never- works
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<chopin> and why does the unit test work?
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<chopin> bleh
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<bwolfe> chopin: from Hl7InError.hbm.xml, hl7_source is an FK to hl7_source table
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<bwolfe> (but the sql doesn't have that FQ for some reason)
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<bwolfe> most people only have one entry in hl7_source
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<bwolfe> but the hl7_in_queue item should have an hl7_source set that you can copy
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<chopin> what we're getting is just the data
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<chopin> so i have to build it
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<chopin> just the message
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<bwolfe> I see
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<chopin> well, here's the nutty thing: my unit test passes
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<chopin> and so does one already in there
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<chopin> see ORUR01HandlerTest#processMessage_shouldSendMessageToErrorEueueForEmptyConceptProposals
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<chopin> so, why does it let me saveHL7InError() with an object that doesn't have the source set?
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<bwolfe> in a unit test? not sure. is it a database error you're getting in real life testing?
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<bwolfe> or is it a hibernate error?
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<chopin> lemme read back ..
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<chopin> bwolfe: http://pastebin.com/NvsDZYT2
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<bwolfe> so a sql error
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<chopin> yep
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<chopin> but ... you don't see it in the unit tests
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<bwolfe> the unit tests go off the hbm files...which has "not-null="true"" on hl7inerror.source....so I don't konw why its letting you do it
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<chopin> hrm
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<chopin> makes me wonder how many errors -didn't- make it into the error queue
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<chopin> 8-/
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<downeym> bwolfe: http://www.gliffy.com/pubdoc/2097568/L.png
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<chopin> downeym: plone has this really nifty way to take a UML doc of workflow (state diagram) and convert it into actual workflow within the CMS
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<chopin> so you can assign it to a content type
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<chopin> it's pretty hot
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<bwolfe> downeym: looks right
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<downeym> chopin: nice!
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<downeym> bwolfe: k
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<downeym> chopin: there are jira plugins to do that ($$)
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<chopin> same thing with plone archetypes ... take class diagrams and convert to python classes with default views for edit/view
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<chopin> pretty snazzy interface
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<chopin> i wondered if we could do the same for us tho
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<chopin> within OpenMRS
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<chopin> the code is open source over at plone
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<chopin> just need to translate it ;-)
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<chopin> or leave it in python for all i care
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<chopin> :-D
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<downeym> interesting thought
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<downeym> robbyoconnor: is learning python, maybe he can take a look at it ;-)
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<chopin> so bwolfe, what do you think is up here?
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<chopin> oo, robbyoconnor: python++
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<robbyoconnor> I haven't started yet
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<robbyoconnor> gonna wing it
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<chopin> i heart it
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<robbyoconnor> :)
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<bwolfe> robbyoconnor: I would suggest not winging it. why not at least make a python app? python is pretty good with their tutorials, etc
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<robbyoconnor> bwolfe: heh i will
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<robbyoconnor> bwolfe: most of this is web2py
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<robbyoconnor> I have examples :)
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<chopin> bwolfe: if nothing exists in the sources, will it fail if null?
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<bwolfe> chopin: no idea whats up
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<bwolfe> chopin: it should
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<bwolfe> because it has a non-null constraint on the column...no fk though
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<bwolfe> chopin: there isn't one in the standardTestDataset?
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<chopin> no
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<chopin> wait
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<chopin> i'll look
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<chopin> heh
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<chopin> sorry, i thought you meant oru
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<chopin> ooookay i'm wrong
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<chopin> :-/
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<downeym> hey ruwan
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<ruwan> downeym: hey!
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<chopin> that was quick ruwan
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<chopin> blah, this is frustrating
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<ruwan> chopin: no!
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<chopin> at least i fixed PcsLabInterface
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<chopin> (it archives now)
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<chopin> just so I could get a blasted properly-formatted HL7 file
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<robbyoconnor> bwolfe: I'll be doing a simple thing w/ sahana soonish
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<robbyoconnor> next week
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<robbyoconnor> my java knowledge and abilities to work w/ the knowledge will help me
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<robbyoconnor> and also my knowledge of the concepts
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<robbyoconnor> concepts of arrays, maps, etc help \
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<robbyoconnor> er my knowledge of*
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<downeym> robbyoconnor: you'll have to give us the scoop on sahana when you're done
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<bwolfe> python is just all maps
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<bwolfe> kind of like javascript
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<downeym> new google chrome beta is *fast*
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<downeym> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oarMXGq3gI
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<bwolfe> as opposed to the current google chrome?
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<downeym> yeah check out the tests in that video
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<downeym> faster than potatoes
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<robbyoconnor> downeym: I will
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<robbyoconnor> http://robbyoconnor.blogspot.com
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<robbyoconnor> I'm writing a tool to design surveys lol
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<robbyoconnor> ... and I have to spec it out on my own
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<robbyoconnor> wireframes and all LOL
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<robbyoconnor> I wanna use extjs like its going out of style lol
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<robbyoconnor> somebody used it wrong and slowed sahana to a crawl
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<chopin> bwolfe: fire in the hole
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<chopin> not sure what we can do with it
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<chopin> i don't like hl7InError.setSource(new HL7Source(1));
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<bwolfe> yeah, pretty hacky
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<robbyoconnor> bwolfe: I still wish they used django :X
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<robbyoconnor> it's not precisely OO (which i'm used to)
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<robbyoconnor> :/
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