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| 00:06:11 | <downeym> hello world |
| 00:06:53 | <downeym> robbyoconnor: man i just saw the hard disk you've been waiting for |
| 00:07:06 | <robbyoconnor> what lol? |
| 00:07:16 | <downeym> http://j.mp/aPdKNk |
| 00:07:18 | <downeym> check it |
| 00:08:23 | <robbyoconnor> LOL |
| 00:08:30 | <robbyoconnor> im gonna nap |
| 00:08:32 | <robbyoconnor> bye |
| 00:08:37 | <downeym> l8r |
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| 00:18:13 | <downeym> hey docpaul |
| 00:18:19 | <docpaul> hi |
| 00:18:31 | <downeym> docpaul: hey i just saw the hard disk you've been waiting for. |
| 00:18:45 | <downeym> http://j.mp/aPdKNk |
| 00:19:29 | <downeym> (couldn't resist) |
| 00:19:46 | <robbyoconnor> you're gonna do that to EVERYBODY aren't you lol |
| 00:19:51 | <robbyoconnor> heh my mentor is on lol |
| 00:20:24 | <downeym> robbyoconnor: nah, just docpaul |
| 00:20:30 | <docpaul> that's a sweet ad |
| 00:21:01 | <downeym> now with support for CP/M hahaha |
| 00:21:24 | * downeym remembers a CP/M SIG on his BBS |
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| 00:48:49 | <downeym> hey bwolfe |
| 00:49:13 | * downeym holds back doing it again :) |
| 00:49:56 | * bwolfe isn't having beer anyway |
| 00:50:05 | <bwolfe> oh, and hi downeym |
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| 00:50:14 | <downeym> fail |
| 00:50:18 | <downeym> hey Dawang |
| 00:50:32 | <downeym> bwolfe: burke has christened your gsoc project |
| 00:50:50 | <Dawang> hi bwolfe |
| 00:50:52 | <bwolfe> how so ? |
| 00:50:56 | <bwolfe> hey |
| 00:50:57 | <downeym> bwolfe: Remote Data Transfer Module |
| 00:51:05 | <Dawang> hi downeym |
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| 00:52:22 | <bwolfe> did he change the title ? |
| 00:52:33 | <downeym> bwolfe: in his mind, yes :) |
| 00:52:49 | <downeym> the rest is up to you, should you choose to accept it |
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| 00:56:43 | <downeym> hey Mkop |
| 00:56:52 | <Mkop> hey mike |
| 00:57:13 | * Mkop is all confused |
| 00:57:40 | <downeym> ...? |
| 00:58:20 | <Mkop> I'm writing a letter to some people about some person, and I was originally gonna write it all nice and stuff, but now I'm having doubts |
| 00:58:41 | <downeym> when in doubt, don't say anything at all :) |
| 00:58:48 | <Mkop> on the one hand, I don't want to lose my credibility by saying what they think is hyperbole |
| 00:59:05 | <Mkop> on the other hand, I don't want them to think that the issues are small issues that can be fixed with a little meeting or two |
| 00:59:07 | * downeym ends up never saying much |
| 00:59:34 | <downeym> is a letter the right venue? |
| 00:59:45 | <downeym> maybe face to face or call? |
| 00:59:54 | <Mkop> the sentence in question is, "Here is not the place to discuss specific interpersonal issues that occur. I know some people involved with $OPERATION are questioning whether personnel changes are needed to move forward. I explicitly take no position on this question." |
| 01:00:16 | <Mkop> face to face is the real goal |
| 01:00:25 | <Mkop> the letter is really for the sake of inviting the meeting |
| 01:00:41 | <Mkop> but maybe I should go straight and just say "there are some issues we'd like to discuss. Please meet with us." |
| 01:00:50 | <downeym> Yeah keep it short and sweet :) |
| 01:01:31 | <Mkop> or maybe just a phone call saying "let's meet" |
| 01:01:36 | <downeym> could be good |
| 01:01:40 | <bwolfe> Mkop: how about: come talk to me at 2pm on wednesday or you're fired |
| 01:01:46 | <downeym> haha |
| 01:02:01 | * robbyoconnor has 3 mentors this summer |
| 01:02:02 | <robbyoconnor> lol |
| 01:02:02 | <downeym> conversations are also less "on the record" than letters/emails |
| 01:02:07 | <bwolfe> or maybe: come talk to me at 2pm on wednesday so I can fire you |
| 01:02:12 | <downeym> robbyoconnor: i had 3 bosses once |
| 01:02:16 | <robbyoconnor> Mkop: you got selected |
| 01:02:23 | <robbyoconnor> I feel like the dude on office space lol |
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| 01:02:56 | <downeym> i need to watch that again |
| 01:03:29 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13131]: webservices.jaxws.api: added several toString methods with calls to ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13131> || News Blog: Congratulations to 2010 Google Summer of Code students <http://blog.openmrs.org/?p=211> |
| 01:03:52 | <downeym> robbyoconnor: http://www.thinkgeek.com/books/humor/8e6c/ |
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| 01:04:45 | <robbyoconnor> lol |
| 01:05:58 | <downeym> i want to hang that banner up |
| 01:06:10 | <downeym> over bwolfe desk |
| 01:06:44 | <downeym> he'll be so surprised when he gets ba..... |
| 01:06:44 | <downeym> oh. |
| 01:06:48 | <downeym> hi bwolfe |
| 01:07:56 | <robbyoconnor> Milton |
| 01:08:13 | <downeym> i used to have a red swingline stapler too :) |
| 01:08:21 | <Mkop> I, unlike bwolfe, am not omnipotent and can not hire and fire at will. |
| 01:08:28 | * downeym gave it away when i left the corporate world |
| 01:08:41 | <Mkop> I, perhaps like downeym, am trying to take down entire corporate structures from the bottom |
| 01:08:53 | <downeym> kick the legs out from underneath :D |
| 01:09:25 | <Mkop> the person who I'm not sure whether to recommend for dismissal was my boss, until I resigned (because he pissed me off) |
| 01:10:12 | <downeym> if you resigned, why are you faced with the decision? |
| 01:10:15 | <robbyoconnor> Mkop: you got soc? |
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| 01:11:27 | <Mkop> downeym: because I'm not sure whether he deserves it or not |
| 01:11:38 | <downeym> Mkop: ah |
| 01:11:45 | <docpaul> ok, downeym , take a look. :) |
| 01:11:47 | <docpaul> tell me what you think |
| 01:11:51 | * downeym looks around |
| 01:11:53 | <downeym> oh, that |
| 01:11:53 | <docpaul> just a few tweaks |
| 01:12:41 | <Mkop> robbyoconnor: not that I know of.... |
| 01:12:49 | <Mkop> I doubt they would have accepted me without an application |
| 01:17:04 | <downeym> hehe |
| 01:19:19 | <downeym> bwolfe: we should get that baconnaise ordered this week |
| 01:20:19 | <bwolfe> definitely |
| 01:20:52 | * downeym threw out a perfectly good 1/2 pkg of bacon when leaving for airport |
| 01:21:15 | <Mkop> <insert obligatory "never tasted bacon" comment here> |
| 01:21:25 | <Mkop> <insert obligatory "what?!" comments here> |
| 01:21:51 | <downeym> heh |
| 01:22:23 | <robbyoconnor> bacon makes everything better. |
| 01:22:37 | <downeym> baconnaise is Kof-K certified kosher :D |
| 01:22:45 | <downeym> http://www.jdfoods.net/products/kosher.php |
| 01:23:10 | <Mkop> <insert obligatory "what?!" comment here> |
| 01:23:24 | <downeym> :D |
| 01:23:51 | <downeym> just imagine meat-flavoured mayonaise |
| 01:24:22 | <downeym> but healthier than both put together |
| 01:26:54 | <downeym> !baconnaise |
| 01:26:54 | <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "baconnaise" --- There's always room for bacon! http://www.baconnaise.com/ |
| 01:28:57 | <Mkop> btw, your suggestion about having a meeting instead of a letter is changing my plans |
| 01:29:03 | <Mkop> I think you're right |
| 01:29:22 | <Mkop> (and so does at least one of the co-signers of the letter) |
| 01:29:41 | <downeym> Mkop: with sensitive HR-kinda stuff like that it's probably best |
| 01:30:13 | <Mkop> the difficulty is getting his supervisors to pay attention to me |
| 01:30:16 | <docpaul> ben |
| 01:30:19 | <docpaul> how goes the meeting? |
| 01:30:29 | <docpaul> was it like i described it would be, or totally different |
| 01:30:36 | <Mkop> (over the course of one year working under him, I never once spoke to his supervisors - that's part of the problem) |
| 01:31:24 | <bwolfe> docpaul: you were spot on |
| 01:31:34 | <bwolfe> docpaul: did you get my last email ? |
| 01:31:45 | <docpaul> nope. |
| 01:31:48 | <docpaul> when did you send it? |
| 01:32:06 | <downeym> Mkop: that's always a challenge |
| 01:32:17 | * bwolfe checks his phone |
| 01:32:40 | <docpaul> saw it |
| 01:32:42 | <docpaul> just now |
| 01:32:46 | <bwolfe> docpaul: 12:12. |
| 01:32:49 | <docpaul> totally missed it before |
| 01:32:58 | <bwolfe> wow, thats quite an email backlog docpaul :-) |
| 01:33:02 | <docpaul> xen is a good guy |
| 01:33:07 | <bwolfe> oh, I see how it is. "filtering" my emails again are you? :-) |
| 01:33:14 | <docpaul> argh, dont say anything about that |
| 01:33:16 | <docpaul> hehe |
| 01:33:41 | <docpaul> i had 7 scheduled meetings today |
| 01:33:45 | <bwolfe> docpaul: eric is here too. no philippe |
| 01:33:46 | <docpaul> starting at 7am |
| 01:33:50 | <docpaul> eric manders? |
| 01:33:55 | <bwolfe> yeah |
| 01:33:58 | <docpaul> sweet |
| 01:34:04 | <docpaul> he's a good fella |
| 01:34:09 | <docpaul> did you go to good dinner? |
| 01:35:35 | <Mkop> what meeting is this, if I may ask? |
| 01:35:53 | <bwolfe> not how you're referring to "good"...but it was quite delicious :-) I was craving a hamburger. so we went to a place called stoneys...and the burger was probably one of the best I've had |
| 01:36:01 | <docpaul> a cdc/who/muckity mucks meeting |
| 01:36:13 | <docpaul> now that's good news |
| 01:36:24 | <bwolfe> (in D.C.) |
| 01:36:26 | <downeym> wph.dca.wayport.net ... |
| 01:36:34 | <downeym> africa gathering was this weekend. drats |
| 01:36:53 | <docpaul> ben: very excited about what burke has been up to |
| 01:37:02 | <docpaul> we spent a lot of time looking at checkstyle today |
| 01:37:09 | <docpaul> and i think that's an excellent direction for us |
| 01:37:20 | <bwolfe> docpaul: yeah, saw it already ;-) |
| 01:37:40 | <downeym> mike mckay is probably in dc |
| 01:38:05 | <bwolfe> I thought he was on the west coast... |
| 01:38:06 | <docpaul> i would love to see it integrated both as a part of the ant build process, as well as an integration with ci |
| 01:38:16 | <downeym> bwolfe: who mckay? |
| 01:38:23 | <downeym> bwolfe: he was keynoting at AG |
| 01:38:46 | <docpaul> so that we prevent people from sending "bad style" as well as notifying the community when it gets through |
| 01:38:57 | <downeym> bwolfe: or presenting, or whatever they call it |
| 01:38:58 | <bwolfe> docpaul: ci integration would be cake |
| 01:39:08 | * bwolfe adds it to the end of downey's TODO list |
| 01:39:16 | <downeym> hmmm |
| 01:39:19 | <Mkop> is this about checking style of code? |
| 01:39:30 | <docpaul> perhaps even send an email to the comitter |
| 01:39:39 | <docpaul> we brainstormed about ways to even check style of patches |
| 01:39:45 | <bwolfe> we need to make it hook into the "svn-->create patch" function in eclipse. :-) |
| 01:39:48 | <docpaul> given that's where most of the style problems will likely be |
| 01:39:51 | <downeym> david & diederick might be interested in this too |
| 01:39:51 | <Mkop> you use bad indenting, you get a scolding email? |
| 01:39:55 | <docpaul> most committers have been indoctrinated |
| 01:40:10 | <downeym> re: their bug analytics evaluation frameworks etc |
| 01:40:11 | <docpaul> among other things Mkop ... for example, no try catches |
| 01:40:16 | <docpaul> no nested ifs |
| 01:40:20 | <docpaul> deeply nested, that is |
| 01:40:38 | <docpaul> you can get as sophisticated as you want with how it checks style |
| 01:40:47 | <docpaul> but this will make code reviews more efficient, IMO |
| 01:41:00 | <docpaul> no includes that go unreferenced in the source |
| 01:41:03 | <docpaul> etc etc |
| 01:41:07 | <downeym> kind of a gatekeeper before code review? |
| 01:41:12 | <docpaul> yep |
| 01:41:18 | <downeym> smart. |
| 01:41:20 | <Mkop> by includes, you mean imports? |
| 01:41:25 | <downeym> ekrub++ |
| 01:41:25 | <docpaul> yes, sorry |
| 01:41:37 | <Mkop> eclipse does a lot of these things |
| 01:41:48 | <docpaul> burke is really stepping up to his new role |
| 01:41:52 | <docpaul> makes me proud |
| 01:42:05 | <Mkop> if we just make a culture of warning-free (or warning-limited) code, that will accomplish most of this |
| 01:42:24 | <docpaul> mkop: interested in this topic? |
| 01:42:28 | <downeym> Mkop: what about the less frequent contributors? |
| 01:42:34 | <docpaul> i can send you the ticket information, along with the patch, if you want to play |
| 01:42:59 | <Mkop> I'm just not sure why we need another tool |
| 01:43:19 | <downeym> !ticket 2285 |
| 01:43:19 | <OpenMRSBot> downeym: Ticket #2285: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2285 |
| 01:43:20 | <docpaul> http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2285 |
| 01:44:12 | <docpaul> eclipse does not do what checkstyle does... checkstyle is about indention and primary formatting... but people don't know that alt-shift-o does remove imports (is that the hotkey) |
| 01:44:31 | <docpaul> so it's a combo of both... it just enhances consistency |
| 01:44:53 | <bwolfe> (yes, thats the hotkey) |
| 01:44:58 | <docpaul> i think general reminders along a continnum of submission is a kinder, gentler approach |
| 01:45:50 | <docpaul> from writing the code, to reminders at local compile time, to reminders at submission time, to reminders to the community when people like to poop in their backyard |
| 01:46:11 | <Mkop> where does that jar fit into the code pipeline? |
| 01:46:19 | <Mkop> someone mentioned CI as an option |
| 01:46:31 | <Mkop> where does Burke's patch go? |
| 01:46:48 | <downeym> docpaul: signal as trigger |
| 01:46:58 | <bwolfe> Mkop: yeah, but just realized thats just post-submission...which isn't really the problem paul is trying to solve |
| 01:47:50 | <docpaul> ci step is important because if it passes all the self-policing mechanisms, that it's alerted so that the group can become aware of the behavior as it's happening |
| 01:48:09 | <docpaul> it's not just ci integration, it's integration at multiple steps along the continuum |
| 01:48:27 | <docpaul> just makes things more efficient |
| 01:48:56 | <docpaul> are there GSoC stats for orgs? |
| 01:49:10 | <docpaul> how many are average slots, total allocations, etc? |
| 01:49:24 | <docpaul> would like to see how we stacked up this uear |
| 01:49:26 | <Mkop> what does Burke's patch do? creates an ant task, looks like? |
| 01:49:29 | <docpaul> er, year |
| 01:49:39 | <docpaul> yep |
| 01:49:44 | <downeym> docpaul: they'll do a blog post on that later in the week. 1025 total students |
| 01:50:06 | <docpaul> the key is to see what burke had to exclude in checking to get it to pass without "errors" |
| 01:50:18 | <docpaul> that will give you some indication of how far we have to go. :) |
| 01:52:05 | <Mkop> early warning that someone is likely a poor candidate for help over IRC: |
| 01:52:58 | <Mkop> <Mkop> missme35: pastebin the code <missme35> here?<Mkop> http://pastebin.com |
| 01:52:59 | <Mkop> <missme35> i have already pastebin the code<missme35> and now?<Mkop> and paste the URL here, so I can see it |
| 01:53:51 | <downeym> starting from zero, i guess |
| 01:54:03 | <docpaul> no org on that page though |
| 01:54:06 | <docpaul> right? |
| 01:54:18 | <wyclif> hey |
| 01:54:32 | <downeym> hey wyclif |
| 01:54:49 | <wyclif> michael, have added cristian to the student mailing list? |
| 01:54:57 | <wyclif> sorry! have u? |
| 01:55:09 | <docpaul> downeym: also add them to the blog aggregator |
| 01:55:15 | <downeym> wyclif: i have, but i haven't e-mailed them yet -- waiting to get 1 more student e-mail address to add first |
| 01:55:26 | <wyclif> and do u need to add the students to the dev mailing list? |
| 01:55:35 | <wyclif> ok |
| 01:55:37 | <downeym> wyclif: students should subscribe to dev list on their own |
| 01:55:44 | <wyclif> ok |
| 01:55:51 | <wyclif> i will ask him to do so |
| 01:55:54 | <downeym> wyclif: i can see your house from my window :) |
| 01:56:22 | <wyclif> he he he |
| 01:56:24 | <wyclif> are u sure? |
| 01:56:30 | <downeym> downeym: yeah i just noticed |
| 01:56:43 | <downeym> err, wyclif: yeah i just noticed :D |
| 01:56:49 | <Mkop> as of my most recent checkout (months ago, I'm svn updating right now), there are 1367 warnings on trunk |
| 01:57:11 | <docpaul> Mkop: what does that mean to you? |
| 01:57:13 | <Mkop> I suspect that clearing most of those would do a lot on the area we're talking about |
| 01:57:26 | <wyclif> how dou forward the msg to me alone? |
| 01:57:36 | <downeym> wyclif: what message? |
| 01:58:08 | <wyclif> like the message u send me start with 'wyclif:' and are in red |
| 01:58:20 | <Mkop> !tabcomplete |
| 01:58:20 | <OpenMRSBot> Mkop: "tabcomplete" --- Most IRC clients let you easily write someone's nickname in the channel using tab completion. Just type the first few letters, then <tab>, and voila! |
| 01:58:22 | <downeym> !refer wyclif [tabcompleted] |
| 01:58:22 | <OpenMRSBot> downeym: Error: "tabcompleted" is not a valid command. |
| 01:58:27 | <downeym> ergh |
| 01:58:35 | <downeym> !refer wyclif [tabcomplete] |
| 01:58:35 | * OpenMRSBot refers wyclif to "tabcomplete" --- Most IRC clients let you easily write someone's nickname in the channel using tab completion. Just type the first few letters, then <tab>, and voila! |
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| 01:58:37 | <downeym> :D |
| 01:58:40 | <Mkop> if it says your name in it, it's red |
| 01:58:54 | *** wyclif has joined #openmrs |
| 01:59:05 | <downeym> !refer wyclif [tabcomplete] |
| 01:59:05 | * OpenMRSBot refers wyclif to "tabcomplete" --- Most IRC clients let you easily write someone's nickname in the channel using tab completion. Just type the first few letters, then <tab>, and voila! |
| 01:59:05 | <wyclif> back |
| 01:59:28 | <bwolfe> wyclif: to send a personal / private message to someone, use "/msg bwolfe ......" |
| 01:59:33 | <downeym> IRC client does the colour when your name is on the line |
| 01:59:34 | <wyclif> got it |
| 01:59:41 | <wyclif> ok |
| 01:59:52 | * docpaul nudges wyclif to read a quick irc tutorial |
| 01:59:56 | <wyclif> how are u ben? |
| 02:00:08 | <wyclif> i guess |
| 02:00:09 | * bwolfe hates making icons |
| 02:00:11 | <docpaul> 5 minutes and you will learn a lot... for example /me is what i did above |
| 02:00:18 | * chopin made an openmrs icon |
| 02:00:23 | <wyclif> i haven't been so active in the irc |
| 02:00:33 | <bwolfe> wyclif: doing ok. not jealous of paul at all... |
| 02:00:35 | <downeym> icon? |
| 02:00:48 | <docpaul> see, these are important things for you all to learn |
| 02:00:55 | <docpaul> what i do now is a labor of love |
| 02:00:58 | <wyclif> because normally we have a couple of meetings, and when i get back to my laptop, i only try to have something done in the remaining hours, |
| 02:01:01 | <bwolfe> !refer wyclif http://irc.openmrs.org for some of the most-used commands |
| 02:01:01 | * OpenMRSBot refers wyclif to http://irc.openmrs.org for some of the most-used commands |
| 02:01:07 | <wyclif> so i end up forgetting about irc |
| 02:01:25 | <downeym> lots of meetings today |
| 02:01:59 | <wyclif> bwolfe, why are you getting jealous? |
| 02:02:42 | <wyclif> bwolfe, 'not jealous' |
| 02:02:45 | <bwolfe> wyclif: no, unlike how I usually talk, that really wasn't sarcasm. I really am NOT jealous of paul right now. I'm his type of meeting right now. :-) |
| 02:03:04 | <wyclif> he he he |
| 02:03:05 | <bwolfe> I haven't felt so unproductive in a long time |
| 02:03:08 | <chopin> both kids are totally congested at my house, so jer -= sleep. |
| 02:03:32 | <bwolfe> docpaul: they spent the afternoon _filling out IMAI and PMCTC forms_ !! |
| 02:03:34 | <chopin> if you want something to feel jealous of |
| 02:03:41 | <docpaul> pahaha |
| 02:03:55 | <docpaul> oh man, i would so have had my laptop open at that point |
| 02:04:32 | * bwolfe wishes he either A) had paid for internet or B) had a good cell signal so that he could actually do work |
| 02:04:34 | <docpaul> time to bang out some email |
| 02:04:54 | <docpaul> dude, pay for the internet tomorrow |
| 02:04:58 | <docpaul> we'll reimburse |
| 02:05:05 | <bwolfe> haha |
| 02:05:07 | <docpaul> that's silly |
| 02:05:27 | <bwolfe> I'm thinking of just sleeping in. the morning is going to be spent filling out tb forms ........ |
| 02:05:32 | <bwolfe> :-p |
| 02:05:33 | <docpaul> hahah |
| 02:05:52 | <docpaul> they will get into technology i assume |
| 02:06:04 | <docpaul> and you talked about the importance of the model underneath the form i hope |
| 02:06:13 | <bwolfe> docpaul: in other news, I think I figured out a neat way to do the concept import functionality that the "whomod" (openmrs express) needs to do |
| 02:06:28 | <docpaul> cool |
| 02:07:21 | <bwolfe> docpaul: they haven't had that type of presentation yet. they had 2 hours of quick introduction + overview then 1.5 hours of "use-case", then the afternoon of useless afternoon of filling out the forms |
| 02:07:53 | <Mkop> silly tortoisesvn. as far as I can tell, the only way to get to the conflict editor is to navigate through the source tree until you get to the file itself, and then you can right click on the file and "Edit conflicts" |
| 02:08:10 | <bwolfe> xen's opening remarks talked of his desire for this to get into the tech. looks like theres 1, maybe 2 sessions fo that tmrw |
| 02:08:23 | <docpaul> how many people? |
| 02:08:40 | <bwolfe> 30-40 |
| 02:09:09 | <bwolfe> 2 ugandan MoH folks |
| 02:09:24 | <wyclif> hey ben? |
| 02:09:27 | * bwolfe remembers to go and dig up daniel's last ranting email |
| 02:09:29 | <docpaul> who ben? |
| 02:09:30 | <bwolfe> yes wyclif |
| 02:09:41 | <docpaul> who from uganda moh? |
| 02:09:41 | <wyclif> what is to do with uganda? |
| 02:10:01 | <wyclif> did u meet those guys in DC? |
| 02:10:02 | <Mkop> moh= ministry of health? |
| 02:10:05 | <docpaul> yes |
| 02:10:45 | <bwolfe> norah and ....blanking on the other guy's name |
| 02:10:54 | <docpaul> wouldnt be dr. kenya, would it? |
| 02:10:58 | <bwolfe> err, the guy's name |
| 02:11:04 | <wyclif> he he he |
| 02:11:17 | <bwolfe> wyclif: yeah, they were at my table today |
| 02:11:18 | <wyclif> bwolfe, are you still in DC? |
| 02:11:20 | <docpaul> sounds funny, but there's a dr. kenya in uganda, moh |
| 02:11:41 | <bwolfe> they are touting their implementation of V2 of IMAI using openmrs in 3 sites |
| 02:11:41 | <wyclif> i find it strange too |
| 02:11:52 | <docpaul> oh is that right? |
| 02:11:55 | <bwolfe> also are claiming to be pushing it out to 11 district sites soon |
| 02:12:05 | <docpaul> now that is humbling |
| 02:12:18 | <bwolfe> docpaul: I don't think he's a Dr. Kenya, but will confirm tmrw |
| 02:12:20 | <downeym> bwolfe: get me data for map |
| 02:12:23 | <downeym> :) |
| 02:12:43 | <bwolfe> docpaul: do you have 3 ugandan sites already? |
| 02:13:08 | <bwolfe> err downeym ^^ |
| 02:13:19 | <bwolfe> (why must you guys share a "do" ??) |
| 02:13:33 | <downeym> bwolfe: Kasese, Kampala, Mbarara, Ruhira, and Masaka |
| 02:13:44 | <wyclif> can someone help me? is docpaul actually Paul Biondich? |
| 02:13:49 | <downeym> and Busia :) |
| 02:13:52 | <downeym> wyclif: yep |
| 02:13:59 | <wyclif> oh my God |
| 02:14:03 | <downeym> LOL |
| 02:14:05 | <docpaul> yes. :D |
| 02:14:05 | <wyclif> am ashamed |
| 02:14:13 | <downeym> wyclif: you're fired ;) |
| 02:14:17 | <bwolfe> wyclif: here's another command: /whois <username> |
| 02:14:21 | <docpaul> I AM ENRAGED |
| 02:14:22 | <docpaul> hehe |
| 02:14:29 | <wyclif> honestly, i deserve to be fired |
| 02:14:29 | <bwolfe> wyclif: so type /whois docpaul and IRC will tell you some info about him. |
| 02:14:44 | <bwolfe> haha. look out, you don't want to make him ANGRY |
| 02:14:48 | <downeym> wyclif: dood you wrote too much code today to be fired. maybe tomorrow :D |
| 02:14:53 | <Mkop> lol |
| 02:15:02 | <bwolfe> docpaul: busia is in uganda now? |
| 02:15:05 | <bwolfe> argh! |
| 02:15:10 | <downeym> bwolfe: it's on the border |
| 02:15:11 | <bwolfe> downeym: busia is in uganda now? |
| 02:15:20 | <docpaul> i'm confused by this question |
| 02:15:28 | <wyclif> i need to dedicate the rest of the night to getting acquainted with irc |
| 02:15:41 | <docpaul> i have some pull in my university, but not sure i have any ability to change land borders in kenya/uganda |
| 02:15:45 | <bwolfe> downeym: the last three sites you listed are the current three MOH implementing sites |
| 02:15:46 | <downeym> wyclif: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml |
| 02:15:55 | <downeym> djazayeri: oic |
| 02:16:23 | <bwolfe> docpaul: it was a mis-tabcomplete on my part. I usually just do the first two characters and tab...works 90% of the time because you're usually not here :-D |
| 02:16:26 | <downeym> wyclif says busia is border town :) |
| 02:16:36 | *** downeym is now known as yenwod |
| 02:16:46 | <yenwod> there, bwolfe ... just for you :) |
| 02:16:51 | <docpaul> sorry... |
| 02:16:52 | <bwolfe> aaaaah, much better! |
| 02:17:05 | <wyclif> busia is the border twon between western kenya and eastern uganda |
| 02:17:14 | <wyclif> you can always call uganda UG |
| 02:17:15 | <docpaul> mike changes his nick for ben's tabcomplete |
| 02:17:17 | <docpaul> priceless |
| 02:17:22 | *** Mkop is now known as dothehussle |
| 02:17:22 | *** yenwod is now known as Eyjafjallajokull |
| 02:17:29 | * dothehussle is confusing tabcomplete |
| 02:17:31 | <Eyjafjallajokull> *boom* |
| 02:17:31 | <wyclif> that is what we call it, just like you say indy |
| 02:17:45 | <bwolfe> !boom! |
| 02:17:45 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "boom!" is not a valid command. |
| 02:17:47 | <bwolfe> !boom |
| 02:17:47 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "boom" --- BOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 02:17:48 | <Eyjafjallajokull> wyclif: like "yoo-gee"? |
| 02:17:49 | <docpaul> but is busia kenyan? |
| 02:17:54 | <docpaul> always thought it was |
| 02:18:04 | <Eyjafjallajokull> borders are not so clear in africa docpaul |
| 02:18:07 | <Eyjafjallajokull> :) |
| 02:18:10 | <bwolfe> damn you dothehussle |
| 02:18:11 | <wyclif> correct |
| 02:18:36 | <bwolfe> wyclif: do busia'ians think they are kenyan or ugandan ? |
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| 02:18:58 | <wyclif> docpaul, busia is either side of the border |
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| 02:19:14 | <wyclif> so there a portion in Ug and one in kenya |
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| 02:19:26 | <wyclif> sorry, there is a portion |
| 02:19:35 | <docpaul> good to know wyclif |
| 02:19:37 | <Mkop> :-) |
| 02:19:44 | <docpaulisgreat> wyclif: i guess the village was there before the country borders :) |
| 02:19:46 | <docpaul> i imagine the clinic is on the kenya side though |
| 02:19:58 | <docpaul> we have a big clinical presence for ampath in busia |
| 02:20:00 | <wyclif> busians always justt pick on one |
| 02:20:03 | <docpaul> including a lab |
| 02:20:13 | <docpaulisgreat> docpaul: will let you know if i get visa troubles there ;) |
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| 02:20:32 | <wyclif> some claim to be ugandans, some kenyans and others love to fool around and remain unclear |
| 02:20:34 | *** ChanServ sets mode: +v wyclif |
| 02:20:47 | <yenwod> the latter keep ampath in business |
| 02:21:16 | <wyclif> i habe lots about the clinic |
| 02:21:21 | <wyclif> i have |
| 02:21:29 | <wyclif> i have heard lots |
| 02:21:40 | <yenwod> wyclif: bad or good? |
| 02:21:54 | <wyclif> of course good |
| 02:22:30 | <docpaul> wyclif: oh really... prior to your joining us in indy? |
| 02:22:38 | <docpaul> that's truly a small world, if so |
| 02:23:14 | <wyclif> docpaul, i didn't get wat you are trying to say |
| 02:23:21 | <docpaul> bwolfe: not sure that what daniel implemented was at all IMAI, btw |
| 02:23:26 | <yenwod> http://zesty.ca/lj/busia-school-beware-aids.jpg |
| 02:23:30 | <bwolfe> didn't think it was |
| 02:23:52 | <docpaul> wyclif: you said you had heard a lot of ampath, and i asked if you had heard those things before you came to the US |
| 02:24:11 | <wyclif> docpaul, i had heard about ampath |
| 02:24:20 | <docpaul> where did you live? |
| 02:24:23 | <Mkop> back when poland and russia were always changing their borders, there were two men that lived in some town on the border. One guy asks his friend, "What country is our town in this year?" the other guy says "I think we're in Poland." The other guy says, "Good! I can't stand those Russian winters." |
| 02:24:29 | <wyclif> and openmrs |
| 02:24:38 | <wyclif> but little about openmrs |
| 02:25:00 | <docpaul> openmrs was born in ampath |
| 02:25:12 | <yenwod> whose eyes are the AMRS logo? |
| 02:25:12 | <docpaul> on valentine's day 2006... first implementation day |
| 02:25:32 | <wyclif> i have a friend, now in austria who first told me about it, but nothing really clicked into my mind about it at that time |
| 02:25:45 | <wyclif> that is good |
| 02:26:25 | <wyclif> so i told my friend about it and he couldn't believe that i was working on it now |
| 02:26:32 | <docpaul> yenwod: link to logo again? |
| 02:26:36 | <docpaul> i think it was a picture i took |
| 02:26:52 | <docpaul> heh, funny story wyclif |
| 02:27:07 | <docpaul> it still blows me away that it even has a reputation |
| 02:27:14 | <yenwod> docpaul: i was afraid you were going to ask me that :D |
| 02:28:27 | <wyclif> docpaul, it is an awsome project |
| 02:28:35 | <wyclif> awesome |
| 02:28:55 | <Mkop> no one laughed at my joke? |
| 02:28:58 | <Mkop> :-( |
| 02:29:16 | <chopin> Mkop: i laughed inside |
| 02:29:43 | <docpaul> waka waka waka |
| 02:29:46 | <yenwod> Mkop: lol |
| 02:30:19 | <docpaul> chopin: way to go on finding the lims issues toay |
| 02:30:21 | <docpaul> er, today |
| 02:30:22 | <yenwod> Mkop: i was distracted thinking about matoke in busia at the time |
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| 02:30:30 | <docpaul> wyclif: getting close on booleans? |
| 02:30:46 | <wyclif> docpaul, i guess am done |
| 02:30:53 | <chopin> docpaul: thx :-) upgraded amrs, so i just need to toss the HL7s back into the queue |
| 02:31:11 | <docpaul> sweet! along with a fix script, wyclif? |
| 02:31:14 | <wyclif> waiting for any comments from the code review, but fundamentally, it is done |
| 02:31:39 | <chopin> it'll relieve ampath of at least 8gb of database data |
| 02:31:48 | <chopin> wyclif's ticket that is |
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| 02:31:55 | <docpaul> serious? |
| 02:32:01 | <docpaul> hi upul! |
| 02:32:02 | <wyclif> docpaul, right |
| 02:32:19 | <yenwod> hey upul` |
| 02:32:23 | <chopin> yep, the hl7_in_archive table is second only to obs |
| 02:32:33 | <docpaul> oh, wait a second.. |
| 02:32:45 | <docpaul> what does wyclif's work have to do with hl7_in_archive? |
| 02:33:00 | <yenwod> everything :) |
| 02:33:14 | * docpaul 's head explodes |
| 02:33:23 | <yenwod> hl7 != boolean, i think |
| 02:33:28 | <wyclif> docpaul, the ticket for migrating hl7_in_arcrhive is assigned to me |
| 02:33:37 | <chopin> oh, that one |
| 02:33:39 | <chopin> heh |
| 02:33:40 | <chopin> my bad |
| 02:33:50 | <docpaul> oh i c... that's a separate one, but important as well of course |
| 02:33:54 | <yenwod> dietcoke++ |
| 02:33:57 | <wyclif> so i have been doing it concurrently with boolean concepts |
| 02:33:59 | <docpaul> he did the boolean fix |
| 02:34:05 | <chopin> dietgrape++ |
| 02:34:09 | <docpaul> wyclif: do you prefer concurrent development? |
| 02:34:12 | <yenwod> fanta++ |
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| 02:34:34 | <docpaul> sy seems to prefer single threads, maybe you prefer multiples |
| 02:34:51 | <docpaul> i know ben prefers multiples |
| 02:34:56 | <wyclif> docpaul, do u mean in terms of doing different things at the sametime or threads in programming, he he he! |
| 02:35:09 | <docpaul> the first. :D |
| 02:35:13 | <upul`> hi yenwod |
| 02:35:17 | <docpaul> mental threads |
| 02:35:49 | <wyclif> docpaul, i love it when i do different tickets especially if they are fairly large like my current tickets |
| 02:36:02 | * yenwod 's mental threads are more like yarn |
| 02:37:04 | <yenwod> N:wyclif |
| 02:37:13 | * docpaul has had a heart attack... burke worked on the thursday agenda today according to wiki changelog |
| 02:37:15 | <docpaul> nice |
| 02:37:42 | <chopin> heh |
| 02:37:45 | <yenwod> ... |
| 02:37:52 | <wyclif> in the past 2weeks i have up and down trying to move to my new apartment |
| 02:38:06 | * yenwod checks for unauthorized logins |
| 02:38:54 | <wyclif> it was starting to stress me, because i was getting worried of failing to get one before the end of this month, now i can say am fully settled |
| 02:39:04 | <docpaul> wyclif: happy to hear this |
| 02:39:07 | <yenwod> wyclif: stand at your window and wave to me |
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| 02:39:22 | <wyclif> look through your window |
| 02:39:27 | <yenwod> yeah i am looking |
| 02:39:29 | <wyclif> docpaul, waving now |
| 02:39:46 | <chopin> haha |
| 02:39:54 | <yenwod> wyclif: cool |
| 02:39:55 | <chopin> test some point-to-point wireless |
| 02:40:10 | <yenwod> chopin: I should do that, i have a license |
| 02:40:16 | <wyclif> i only need to walk to work, am close |
| 02:40:17 | <docpaul> only problem is that burke doesnt know how to count to 90 |
| 02:40:20 | <docpaul> other than that, it's all good |
| 02:40:26 | <chopin> hhahaha |
| 02:40:34 | <yenwod> docpaul: what is 90? |
| 02:40:41 | <docpaul> minutes in a developer call |
| 02:40:46 | <yenwod> docpaul: 120. |
| 02:40:52 | <docpaul> we have 2 hours? |
| 02:40:56 | <yenwod> yeah |
| 02:40:59 | <docpaul> i thought 11:30 was stop |
| 02:41:08 | <yenwod> hasn't been since october |
| 02:41:10 | <docpaul> guess that has evolved |
| 02:41:14 | <yenwod> heh |
| 02:41:19 | <docpaul> yep, thought we were over every week |
| 02:41:35 | <yenwod> sometimes we're closer to 130 |
| 02:41:42 | <wyclif> i think i have been missing out alot on the irc |
| 02:41:52 | <yenwod> wyclif: man it's the best |
| 02:42:06 | <docpaul> great for collaboration |
| 02:42:11 | <docpaul> but it can be a time suck |
| 02:42:15 | <docpaul> be careful. :D |
| 02:42:27 | <docpaul> i established this channel. :D |
| 02:42:27 | <wyclif> one thing so far i ha ve learnt in US, is that people in Uganda waste alot of time |
| 02:42:28 | <yenwod> wyclif: sometimes it's very quiet and sometimes very busy |
| 02:42:50 | <docpaul> i did irc back in my hacking days in college |
| 02:42:58 | <docpaul> ran a group through a channel |
| 02:43:06 | <wyclif> cool |
| 02:43:12 | <docpaul> wrote bots, all of that stuff |
| 02:43:16 | <yenwod> 17 docpaul +vVoOtsriRfAF [modified ? ago] |
| 02:43:33 | <yenwod> !seen docpaul |
| 02:43:33 | <OpenMRSBot> yenwod: docpaul was last seen in #openmrs 21 seconds ago: <docpaul> wrote bots, all of that stuff |
| 02:43:56 | <yenwod> i was an undernet op back in '99 |
| 02:44:02 | <yenwod> no, dalnet. sorry |
| 02:44:16 | <docpaul> what happened to code review today? |
| 02:44:22 | <docpaul> seems like it fell short? |
| 02:45:02 | <wyclif> docpaul, my hl7_in_archive patch is very large, so it covered the entire code review |
| 02:45:10 | <docpaul> i c |
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| 02:45:50 | <docpaul> all very good tickets selected today |
| 02:45:56 | <docpaul> eager to see those in core |
| 02:45:59 | <wyclif> docpaul, not very large but fairly large |
| 02:46:21 | <Mkop> yenwod: as an aside, what's the status on the website thing? |
| 02:46:29 | <Mkop> (that was the one dev call that I was on :-) ) |
| 02:47:00 | <yenwod> Mkop: which one? heh. We're setting up servers currently, adding wordpress to the server running trac today to host our new "front page" |
| 02:47:23 | <yenwod> Mkop: Also getting additional env's for Confluence to replace mediawiki and JIRA to replace trac |
| 02:47:28 | <Mkop> oh, you're switching to wordpress? |
| 02:47:29 | <Mkop> cool |
| 02:47:34 | <Mkop> will that completely replace the wiki? |
| 02:47:39 | <docpaul> not switching... adding |
| 02:47:43 | <docpaul> will still have a wiki |
| 02:47:44 | <Mkop> oh, I didn't listen |
| 02:47:48 | <yenwod> Mkop: No WP will handle the less collaborative content |
| 02:48:14 | <yenwod> Mkop: more general content, implementer profiles, blog stuff, etc |
| 02:48:18 | <Mkop> why? WP is easy enough to collaborate with, in my experience |
| 02:48:31 | <docpaul> richard boyce is banging on web services |
| 02:48:35 | <yenwod> Mkop: it is. but we'll use Confluence for the developer wiki, since it will integrate well with the other tools |
| 02:48:53 | <docpaul> ben: how does the code look so far for webservices.jaxws |
| 02:48:53 | <Mkop> oh |
| 02:48:56 | <yenwod> Mkop: single sign on throughout all our tools |
| 02:48:59 | <Mkop> I've never used confluence |
| 02:49:07 | <yenwod> Mkop@openmrs.org |
| 02:49:08 | <docpaul> confluence is damn good |
| 02:49:42 | <docpaul> a little more complicated though and that worries me |
| 02:50:02 | <docpaul> requires a lot more curation, IMO... but at least it can be curated more easily |
| 02:50:10 | <yenwod> Mkop: http://sandbox.onconfluence.com/dashboard.action |
| 02:50:12 | <Mkop> does it force categorization? |
| 02:50:14 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/60nB> (at sandbox.onconfluence.com) |
| 02:50:15 | <docpaul> wierd dichotomy |
| 02:50:22 | <docpaul> yes, in some ways |
| 02:50:36 | <yenwod> It does if i tell it to :D |
| 02:50:51 | <Mkop> forced categorization is a good thing |
| 02:50:52 | <Mkop> (for us) |
| 02:50:54 | <yenwod> we're also working on a content inventory of the current wiki |
| 02:50:57 | <Mkop> (imo, of course) |
| 02:51:12 | <bwolfe> docpaul: decent |
| 02:51:23 | <yenwod> Mkop agreed on the categorization |
| 02:51:28 | <docpaul> decent, but not great |
| 02:52:02 | <docpaul> the categorization is not prominent enough though for people to focus on, that's my only concern |
| 02:52:10 | <yenwod> Mkop: Confluence is a lot better at person-centered knowledge management |
| 02:52:14 | <docpaul> when people create new pages, they are created as children of the page you're currently on |
| 02:52:33 | <docpaul> which most people dont get until they've made an absolute mess of a space |
| 02:52:42 | <docpaul> at least that was my experience |
| 02:52:43 | <Mkop> by person-centered you mean role-centered i.e. the colored spaces for imp, dev, who-type people, users? |
| 02:52:48 | <docpaul> i had to do a lot of curation to fix it |
| 02:53:00 | <docpaul> but then it was at least organized appropriately |
| 02:53:11 | <docpaul> mediawiki is too loosey goosey |
| 02:53:13 | <yenwod> Mkop: well, that too - but even within the developer space (confluence) you'll be able to see who's working on what kind of stuff, much easier and much more automatically |
| 02:53:17 | <Mkop> do we have a confluence instance up somewhere? |
| 02:53:25 | <docpaul> which is powerful, but has it's issues as you pointed out |
| 02:53:38 | <Mkop> are you sticking with that color scheme thing you said before? |
| 02:53:40 | <yenwod> Mkop: right now it's only on an amazon ec2 instance that i power down at night to save money :) |
| 02:53:49 | <Mkop> :-) |
| 02:53:55 | <yenwod> Mkop: probably will stay with the colors. We've got a volunteer working on design for us |
| 02:54:08 | <Mkop> coolness |
| 02:54:30 | <Mkop> I also have a webdesign project coming up soon |
| 02:54:42 | <docpaul> help us! |
| 02:54:54 | * yenwod bribes Mkop with baconnaise |
| 02:54:57 | <Mkop> migrating my student group's website from static html/php to _some_ CMS |
| 02:54:59 | <yenwod> oh, wait |
| 02:56:08 | <Mkop> why should I wait? |
| 02:56:19 | <yenwod> is the next openmrs party this friday night? |
| 02:56:30 | <yenwod> Mkop: well wait because of the baconnaise thing :) |
| 02:56:39 | <Mkop> why? |
| 02:56:42 | <Mkop> you said it's kosher |
| 02:56:54 | <docpaul> i'll do an openmrs party |
| 02:56:55 | <yenwod> Mkop: probably not too effective to bribe you if you don't know if you like it :D |
| 02:56:59 | <Mkop> oh |
| 02:57:01 | <docpaul> and when our basement is complete, i'll host one |
| 02:57:19 | <docpaul> mayonnaise is horrid stuff |
| 02:57:23 | <docpaul> and bacon wont fix that |
| 02:57:23 | <yenwod> nribeka is bringing nyama choma |
| 02:57:35 | <chopin> heh |
| 02:57:36 | <yenwod> docpaul: there's always bacon salt |
| 02:57:55 | <docpaul> that's like trying to polish a turd |
| 02:57:57 | <yenwod> chopin: nyama choma & diet coke |
| 02:58:13 | <yenwod> docpaul: ... |
| 02:58:17 | <chopin> nyoma choma + sam adams |
| 02:58:22 | <docpaul> hehe |
| 02:58:30 | <chopin> yumma chumma |
| 02:58:43 | <yenwod> chopin: http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/04/500x_10mb_hard_drive.jpg |
| 02:58:45 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/60nM> (at cache.gawkerassets.com) |
| 02:58:50 | <docpaul> i can do kuku... but not a big goat choma fan personally |
| 02:58:57 | <docpaul> i think it's an acquired taste |
| 02:59:08 | <yenwod> what is kuku |
| 02:59:12 | <docpaul> chicken |
| 02:59:19 | <chopin> yenwod: ooh yeah |
| 02:59:33 | <yenwod> kuku++ |
| 02:59:48 | <yenwod> kuku & ugali |
| 03:00:26 | <yenwod> chopin: i know you were waiting for it |
| 03:00:48 | <chopin> in '92 i was |
| 03:00:54 | <yenwod> chopin: 64k seeks! |
| 03:01:01 | <chopin> sweet |
| 03:01:13 | <chopin> i couldn't believe it when i got a 20mb |
| 03:01:48 | <docpaul> i couldnt believe when i got a double sided floppy drive! |
| 03:01:52 | <yenwod> so i have like 16000 of those suckers in my pocket |
| 03:02:02 | <docpaul> didnt have to flip the disc |
| 03:02:09 | <yenwod> haha |
| 03:02:16 | <yenwod> missing my apple II |
| 03:02:44 | <Mkop> my friend and I call USB flash drives "floppy drives" |
| 03:02:48 | <Mkop> not sure where it started |
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| 03:04:09 | <yenwod> Mkop: that's horrible |
| 03:04:18 | <Mkop> why? |
| 03:04:18 | <yenwod> i used to use 8" floppies at work |
| 03:04:22 | <Mkop> ha! |
| 03:04:24 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13132]: webervices.jaxws.api: trivial changes to log information <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13132> |
| 03:04:37 | <yenwod> they were really floppy |
| 03:04:40 | <Mkop> I am old enough that floppy disks were something that I used |
| 03:04:56 | <yenwod> yeah i am feeling old now |
| 03:04:57 | <Mkop> 5.5"s were something that I used in 6th grade, but nothing beyond that |
| 03:05:11 | <wyclif> sy and jer need to have a taste of nyama choma |
| 03:05:19 | <Mkop> I bet that some of the gsoc acceptees never really had to use floppies |
| 03:05:44 | <wyclif> i was told win didnt want to leave kenya because he was going to miss it |
| 03:06:02 | <yenwod> wyclif: he tried to get his exit visa revoked |
| 03:06:08 | <wyclif> lol |
| 03:07:08 | <chopin> haa |
| 03:07:58 | <chopin> see y'all |
| 03:08:05 | <wyclif> goodnight |
| 03:08:43 | <yenwod> Mkop: our microvax II had a TK50 tape drive |
| 03:09:00 | <yenwod> Mkop: also made a good night stand after it was retired ;-) |
| 03:10:20 | <yenwod> cya chopin |
| 03:10:24 | <docpaul> win LOVED kenya |
| 03:10:29 | <docpaul> he was so happy there |
| 03:10:47 | <docpaul> if i had my family there, i would feel the same |
| 03:10:47 | <wyclif> he got to dodge a bigger part of the winter |
| 03:10:56 | <docpaul> it's hard to be separated though |
| 03:11:02 | <wyclif> right |
| 03:11:32 | <docpaul> corruption is also hard to accept |
| 03:11:32 | <wyclif> i feel like they are too little to be taken to africa |
| 03:11:35 | <docpaul> other than that |
| 03:12:14 | <wyclif> it gets rought there, with lots of dust, they would get sick all the time |
| 03:12:17 | <yenwod> Mkop: http://www.microvax2.org/ |
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| 05:00:14 | <ruwan> hi wyclif |
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| 06:07:52 | <openmrs_web438> hello |
| 06:08:54 | <openmrs_web438> i'm working on a project using Perl |
| 06:09:24 | <openmrs_web438> and i wanna telnet to a cisco switch using a perl code |
| 06:09:55 | <openmrs_web438> i got 1 code from the internet which match my objective |
| 06:10:26 | <openmrs_web438> but it gives some error messaeges when compiling |
| 06:10:41 | <openmrs_web438> I'm using Net::Telnet module |
| 06:10:51 | <openmrs_web438> plz help |
| 06:11:04 | <openmrs_web438> I'm getting the error massage |
| 06:11:19 | <openmrs_web438> pattern matched time-out |
| 06:14:14 | <ruwan> openmrs_web438: http://www.irc.perl.org/channels.html |
| 06:19:35 | <openmrs_web438> thanx |
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| 06:23:02 | <robbyoconnor> how is this related to OpenMRS? lol |
| 06:23:32 | <robbyoconnor> openmrs_web438: also: "plz help" -- please don't do that. it's "please help" |
| 06:23:57 | <ruwan_> robbyoconnor++ |
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| 10:31:13 | <astelmashenko> hi everybody |
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| 12:59:14 | <bwolfe> downeym-mobile: hurry up with jira...got another spam comment in trac :-/ |
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| 13:07:05 | <downeym> bwolfe: Maybe some people like insurance ;) |
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| 13:16:33 | <downeym> hey firzhan |
| 13:18:08 | <firzhan> downeym: hi |
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| 13:49:22 | <downeym> hey Shazin |
| 13:49:42 | <Shazin> Hi Michael |
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| 13:51:08 | <downeym> Shazin: congratulations btw |
| 13:51:19 | <Shazin> downeym, Thanks alot |
| 13:51:47 | <Shazin> bwolfe, are there any documentation particular on Modules I can read through? |
| 13:52:00 | <bwolfe> !modules |
| 13:52:00 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "modules" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Modules |
| 13:52:08 | <bwolfe> !testingmodules |
| 13:52:08 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "testingmodules" is not a valid command. |
| 13:52:13 | <bwolfe> !svnaccess |
| 13:52:13 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "svnaccess" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers#Requesting_Subversion_Repository_Access |
| 13:54:03 | <Shazin> bwolfe, Do I have SVN Commit access to main code base |
| 13:54:12 | <Shazin> bwolfe, I do have for contrib |
| 13:55:27 | <bwolfe> Shazin: yes. we give out total svn access to everyone. we then just manage the permissions socially instead of with a bunch of rules. |
| 13:55:46 | <bwolfe> Shazin: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Getting_Started_as_a_Developer |
| 13:55:47 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5:_l> (at openmrs.org) |
| 13:55:59 | <bwolfe> Shazin: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Subversion_Repository_Code_of_Conduct |
| 13:56:00 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/4r5R> (at openmrs.org) |
| 13:58:51 | <Shazin> bwolfe, Thanks |
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| 14:24:35 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Andrey Stelmashenko: gsoc 2010 first steps. <http://gsoc-conquest.blogspot.com/2010/04/gsoc-2010-first-steps.html> |
| 14:37:46 | <Echidna> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Str%C4%8D_prst_skrz_krk |
| 14:37:48 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/614z> (at en.wikipedia.org) |
| 14:38:32 | <downeym> ... |
| 14:41:20 | <bwolfe> I am often asked that phrase when drunk. its doubly hard because I don't know chezch |
| 14:42:55 | <Echidna> =o |
| 14:43:25 | <downeym> !beer bwolfe |
| 14:43:25 | * OpenMRSBot slides bwolfe a pint |
| 14:43:59 | <bwolfe> its before noon you drunkard! |
| 14:44:19 | <downeym> bwolfe: aren't you connecting from a sky club? |
| 14:45:15 | <chopin> wait a sec, bwolfe: did you just go to kenya? |
| 14:45:23 | <bwolfe> negative. from the westin |
| 14:45:25 | <chopin> before downeym could? ;-) |
| 14:45:40 | <bwolfe> chopin: haha, no, not anywhere near a volcano. I'm in DC |
| 14:45:41 | <downeym> bwolfe: ahh westin's not free, never mind |
| 14:45:56 | <chopin> ah |
| 14:45:56 | <downeym> bwolfe: the hill is actually a dormant volcano |
| 14:46:16 | <bwolfe> there is a lot of hot air that comes out of it |
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| 14:46:49 | <bwolfe> downeym: what in my whois makes you think I'm at a sky club? |
| 14:46:50 | <downeym> i usually stay at the hostel at 11th & K ... it's like ... $25 a night |
| 14:47:41 | <bwolfe> yeah, thats almost what this costs |
| 14:47:47 | <downeym> bwolfe: i just know your style ;) |
| 14:48:02 | <chopin> ugh, kenya's internet service is so bothersome |
| 14:48:12 | <downeym> chopin: what's the bother |
| 14:48:46 | * chopin can't get at the db, may as well go home |
| 14:49:35 | <downeym> chopin: you should mirror (somehow) to the RDC |
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| 14:49:57 | <downeym> hey upul` |
| 14:50:07 | <chopin> bleh |
| 14:54:06 | <nribeka> where are you bwolfe? DC? |
| 14:54:13 | <downeym> nribeka: where are you? |
| 14:54:21 | <bwolfe> yes |
| 14:54:25 | <nribeka> kenya, eldoret |
| 14:54:35 | <downeym> nribeka: you're missing out the free food |
| 14:54:35 | <wyclif> hey |
| 14:54:51 | <downeym> hi wy |
| 14:55:20 | <wyclif> aren't i registered? |
| 14:55:39 | <wyclif> or am i not registered? |
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| 14:56:18 | <nribeka> what free food today? |
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| 14:57:12 | <downeym> nribeka: free chicken wings |
| 14:57:40 | <nribeka> booo |
| 14:57:59 | <downeym> wyclif: you are registered with NickServ ... but your client is not identifying to it when you log in |
| 14:58:17 | <wyclif> oh |
| 14:58:20 | <downeym> wyclif Last seen : Apr 19 00:47:52 2010 (1 week, 1 day, 14:09:42 ago) |
| 14:58:40 | <wyclif> i changed from my old irc client |
| 14:58:59 | <bwolfe> wyclif: whatre you using now? |
| 14:59:03 | <wyclif> downeym, remember that? |
| 14:59:16 | <wyclif> downeym, xchat |
| 14:59:20 | <downeym> wyclif: probably need to configure new client to connect with password |
| 14:59:35 | <wyclif> downeym, i guess |
| 14:59:40 | <downeym> wyclif: see: http://t0x.in/xchatconnect.html#11 |
| 14:59:51 | <chopin> oh nribeka, there you are |
| 15:01:20 | <nribeka> hello chopin |
| 15:02:22 | <nribeka> so many crazy stuff in facebook: http://failbook.com |
| 15:02:48 | * bwolfe can tell nribeka is really "working" hard from home |
| 15:04:15 | <nribeka> totally bwolfe |
| 15:04:36 | <nribeka> how long are you gonna be there bwolfe? |
| 15:04:52 | <chopin> i'll have to get chinese buffet since nribeka isn't here |
| 15:04:53 | <chopin> ;-) |
| 15:04:54 | <bwolfe> until 7:20 pm |
| 15:05:03 | <downeym> chopin: let's go |
| 15:05:58 | <nribeka> booo chopin |
| 15:07:56 | <chopin> haha |
| 15:07:59 | <chopin> nooo, i can't today |
| 15:08:03 | <chopin> soup for me |
| 15:08:14 | <chopin> besides, i won't let my friend nribeka down |
| 15:08:58 | <nribeka> haha good chopin :D we can go some other time |
| 15:18:18 | <chopin> guess what, folks: saveObs() doesn't update the underlings if the obs is the group_id of other observations |
| 15:18:34 | * chopin gets hungry and anxious at the same time |
| 15:19:17 | <bwolfe> chopin: the group members aren't updated?? |
| 15:19:24 | <bwolfe> chopin: thats no good |
| 15:20:45 | <chopin> correct. |
| 15:20:49 | <chopin> 8| |
| 15:20:54 | * chopin fixes that |
| 15:21:16 | <nribeka> hmm ... some (if not all) of the cascade thing is not working properly then chopin |
| 15:21:50 | <chopin> the saveObs() method creates a new one to replace the old one and voids the old one |
| 15:22:04 | <chopin> there's a RequiredDataAdvice.recursivelyHandle() call |
| 15:22:08 | <chopin> but i don't know what that is |
| 15:22:23 | <chopin> ah, it's just metadata |
| 15:24:09 | * chopin fixes amrs dev |
| 15:24:24 | <chopin> ~:( |
| 15:25:48 | <chopin> select obs_id from obs where comments like concat("%", (select obs_id from ... ugh! |
| 15:26:43 | <chopin> heh, i'm gonna use some sql from the obs created_to_replace ticket |
| 15:27:07 | <bwolfe> its all fancy like |
| 15:28:00 | * chopin adds two lines to openmrs, spends half an hour fixing the database |
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| 15:43:49 | <chopin> bwolfe: so, the unit test to see if this works seems to run properly |
| 15:43:51 | <chopin> :-./ |
| 15:43:55 | * chopin re-reads the database |
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| 15:45:38 | <bwolfe> chopin: thats a good start |
| 15:58:55 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2290 (task created): Determine status of HTML Form Entry Designer module <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2290> || Lu Zhuang Wei: Happy for participating GSoC 2010 <http://lzwgsoc.blogspot.com/2010/04/happy-for-participating-gsoc-2010.html> |
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| 16:03:06 | <chopin> bwolfe: hah, um ... i was wrong |
| 16:03:16 | <chopin> *phew* |
| 16:03:23 | <chopin> looks like they "took" |
| 16:03:37 | <bwolfe> cool |
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| 16:36:54 | <Shazin> bwolfe |
| 16:38:08 | <Shazin> bwolfe, The ModuleFactory code has been changed from the code which I used to prepare the application |
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| 16:43:40 | <MalteF> hi all |
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| 16:58:12 | <chopin> hey MalteF |
| 17:04:18 | <bwolfe> Shazin: is that a problem? |
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| 17:56:48 | <Hazamonzo> . |
| 17:58:08 | <bwolfe> .. |
| 17:59:26 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13134]: in patientmatching module, changed EM to correctly calculate score ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13134> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13133]: chica * fixed errors in ADHD mlms <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13133> |
| 18:31:35 | <chopin> ./ |
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| 18:40:10 | <downeym> ../ |
| 18:53:17 | <chopin> \oo/ |
| 18:55:16 | <downeym> \+/ |
| 19:01:37 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13135]: chica_scorable_jit * reverted change to get rid of lazy initialization ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13135> |
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| 19:31:47 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2291 (task created): Upgrade to JQuery 1.4.2 in core <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2291> |
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| 20:02:59 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13136]: htmlformentry: changed HtmlForm object fields to private <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13136> |
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| 20:33:59 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2292 (defect closed): Patient List Formatting Error - row background color and text in wrong column <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2292#comment:1> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2292 (defect created): Patient List Formatting Error - row background color and text in wrong column <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2292> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13137]: removed unused folders and unused links in localHeader <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13137> |
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| 21:04:10 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2287 (defect closed): ConceptSource implements both OpenmrsMetadata and Voidable <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2287#comment:2> |
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| 21:25:03 | <wyclif> hey |
| 21:33:42 | <MalteF> hi wyclif |
| 21:34:02 | <wyclif> MalteF, hey |
| 21:36:14 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13138]: #2126 spring 3.0 branch merge to trunk <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13138> |
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| 22:06:22 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [13139]: htmlformentry: updates to javadocs <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/13139> |
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