IRC Chat : 2010-04-15 - OpenMRS

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01:05:49 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2242 (task created): Add more information to System Information page <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2242>
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04:38:38 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12952]: maven: Fixing compile time utf-8 issue <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12952>
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06:57:06 <saimanohar> hi all
06:57:10 <saimanohar> nyone around
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07:03:06 <Mkop> no
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07:05:11 <openmrs_web474> hi pascal
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07:06:22 <saimanohar> hey
07:07:31 <pascal`> hey saimanohar
07:07:49 <pascal`> !refer saimanohar [tabcomplete]
07:07:49 * OpenMRSBot refers saimanohar to "tabcomplete" --- Most IRC clients let you easily write someone's nickname in the channel using tab completion. Just type the first few letters, then <tab>, and voila!
07:08:25 <saimanohar> will all the projects listed in gsoc would get approved by google
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07:41:24 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12953]: logmanager: fixed broken select none/all buttons on tools page <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12953>
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08:11:30 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12954]: logmanager: moved log4j specific classes into .log4j package <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12954>
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08:25:01 <saimanohar> hi all
08:25:14 <saimanohar> guys i am a bit tensed
08:40:28 <pascal`> hi saimanohar
08:40:34 <pascal`> !beer saimanohar
08:40:34 * OpenMRSBot slides saimanohar a pint
08:41:41 <saimanohar> no i mean to say all my other friends got responses from there mentors asking some kinda questions
08:41:57 <saimanohar> i didnt get any notification
08:42:11 <saimanohar> i hope the project i applied for should get a slot from google
08:45:08 <pascal`> saimanohar, we're working through the projects
08:45:22 <pascal`> saimanohar, you should get some comments by tomorrow
08:53:19 <saimanohar> ok i would wait for them
09:11:43 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12955]: logmanager: added new configuration page and renamed old config page to … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12955>
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10:29:16 <downeym> hello world
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10:30:59 <pascal`> hey downeym
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10:46:07 <pascal`> downeym, for this week's call music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrZ8cAbTJLc
10:46:17 <pascal`> downeym, listen to it loudly if you can =D
10:46:40 <downeym> hahaha
10:46:57 <downeym> dubstep
10:48:11 <downeym> will see about using that ... am hoping to train our new project manager on using the conference system
10:48:58 <pascal`> (=
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11:12:13 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12956]: logmanager: added event injection form to tools page <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12956>
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11:14:55 <downeym> hey danielf`
11:15:12 <danielf`> hey downeym
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12:26:59 <pascal`> hey chopin
12:27:01 <pascal`> hey Mkop
12:27:19 <pascal`> !bwolfe
12:27:19 <OpenMRSBot> pascal`: "bwolfe" --- (#1) is a Jedi, or (#2) Supreme Chancellor of OpenMRS
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12:28:10 <downeym> !pascal`
12:28:10 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "pascal`" --- not a valid command
12:31:08 <pascal`> !downeym
12:31:08 <OpenMRSBot> pascal`: "downeym" --- The evil overlord of OpenMRS
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12:41:48 <Mkop> hi pascal`
12:41:51 <Mkop> hi downeym
12:42:01 * Mkop is up bright and early today!
12:42:04 <Mkop> whoo hoo!
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12:44:43 <downeym> good morning Mkop
12:44:50 * downeym woke up at 3 :D
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12:51:13 <pascal`> hey jmiranda
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12:54:49 * Mkop went to sleep at 4:30 and woke up at 6:30
12:56:12 <Keelaphone> why the hell
12:56:25 <Mkop> a friend and I were going to a nearby prayer service at 6:45, and I asked him to wake me. he came to my room at 4:30 to sleep on my couch so he would be more likely to wake up on time, which I took as my signal to go to sleep myself
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12:56:56 <Mkop> I am glad for the kick in my pants to mess up my sleep schedule - my current sleep schedule is totally whack
12:56:59 <downeym> all hail bwolfe
12:57:04 <Mkop> hail!
12:57:12 <Keelaphone> hi
12:57:13 <Mkop> it's raining, it's pouring, old bwolfe is snoring....
12:57:23 <downeym> hail yes
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12:58:04 * Mkop is gonna have an awesome productive day
12:58:18 <Mkop> which unfortunately must include closing IRC, I think
12:58:30 <downeym> fail
12:58:36 <downeym> Mkop: you'll miss our meeting
12:58:38 <downeym> !devmtg
12:58:38 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer meeting Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern - http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
12:59:07 <Mkop> correct
12:59:14 <Mkop> :-)
12:59:21 <Mkop> you're all a bunch of jerks anyway
12:59:27 * downeym writes Mkop a pass
12:59:47 <Mkop> does attending once mean that I need a pass to miss any future meetings?
12:59:58 <downeym> yes :P
13:00:14 <Mkop> ok
13:00:26 <Mkop> I hope you left the date slot blank on that pass
13:00:52 <downeym> i wrote some javascript to always put the thursday of the current week in the date field
13:02:28 <Mkop> nice
13:03:08 * Mkop hopes to graduate with good grades. I love #openmrs until it interferes with that. And thus today's absence.
13:04:07 <downeym> no fault there
13:04:28 <chopin> hey-o all
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13:05:15 <kennymac> hi all
13:05:30 <Mkop> hi chopin
13:05:32 <Mkop> hi kennymac
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13:09:53 <Keelaphone> mkop: how do you intend on being productive after 2h of sleep
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13:10:22 <Mkop> I napped yesterday, for starts
13:10:31 <Ladyfa> hi everyone
13:10:45 <Mkop> second of all, productivity depends more on motivation than physical strength
13:10:58 <Mkop> hi Ladyfa
13:11:38 <Keelaphone> the best motivation won't help much at reduced mental capacity
13:11:49 <Keelaphone> ;]
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13:25:19 <Mkop> that's what coffee is for :-)
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13:26:47 <Keelaphone> youngsters... ;)
13:27:30 <downeym> dietcoke++
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13:29:25 <Mkop> in general, I'm not really one to work on little sleep
13:29:30 <Mkop> but today I'm gonna have to e
13:29:32 <Mkop> be*
13:30:38 <chopin> oy ... i wish we had implemented relationship types as RelationshipType { RelationshipSide a: "Doctor", RelationshipSide b: "Patient" }
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13:30:49 <chopin> that way i could refer to RelationshipSide independently
13:30:52 <chopin> 8|
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13:32:04 <mrosas> hello
13:32:48 <mrosas> i've got an issue here, i'm sending some info from my module controller to the view, but i can't make it to show up in the View
13:33:07 <mrosas> need some help, here is the code in both controller and view
13:33:08 <mrosas> http://pastebin.com/dw8hqT21
13:43:19 <bwolfe> mrosas: I don't think you can use that with RedirectView
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13:46:47 <mrosas> ok bwolfe, do you know what should i use?
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13:47:07 <bwolfe> mrosas: depends what your full controller looks like
13:47:34 <bwolfe> mrosas: are you using spring annotations in your controller ?
13:48:17 <Keelafone> proper qwertz kb is so much faster than onscreen
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13:51:48 <bwolfe> Keelafone: you have a "qwertz" keyboard?? I think you have some keys mixed up (which might be causing the slowdown). :-)
13:52:00 <mrosas> no bwolfe, not using annotations
13:52:16 <Echidna> bwolfe: http://www.biocrawler.com/w/images/d/d2/KeyboardLayout-German.png
13:52:19 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5i_4> (at www.biocrawler.com)
13:52:46 <Echidna> bwolfe: notice the positions of { }
13:52:50 <Echidna> really sucks for writing code
13:52:59 <Echidna> gotta press the right ALT key
13:53:08 <bwolfe> mrosas: so do you have a formBackingObject method? or a referenceData method?
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13:53:32 <mrosas> formBackingObject
13:53:48 <bwolfe> Echidna: ah, those silly umlauts
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13:54:45 <bwolfe> what are you putting into the formBackingObject? why can't you put it there? for "extra" information to go to the page as it loads (alongside the formbacking object) just return "model", yourobject in the referenceData object
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13:59:53 <downeym> !devmtg
13:59:53 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer meeting Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern - http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
13:59:57 <downeym> (that's now) :)
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14:01:34 <downeym> We will be starting in about 5 minutes hopefully :)
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14:02:37 <zeshan> Also, don't forget that we'll be webcasting portions of today's call. The webcast server is http://connect.openmrs.org.
14:02:58 <zeshan> We apologize in advance for any inconvenience caused by this delay.
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14:03:35 <r-friedman> zeshan, we love music on hold
14:03:37 <zeshan> We also apologize for Jeramy.
14:03:55 <zeshan> Michael was experimenting with the hold music. We had some metallica earlier.
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14:05:40 <zeshan> Evidently Michael feels the need to be more professional now...
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14:06:15 <downeym> ...wha?
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14:08:09 <downeym> We'll be starting in a few minutes (hopefully)
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14:13:52 <kennymac> yeah it's noisy
14:13:59 <judywawira> the call is breaking up..
14:14:11 <judywawira> but darius is clear
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14:14:43 <docpaul> hi people. :)
14:14:53 <danielf`> hi docpaul
14:14:54 <docpaul> there is no pepper in my paprikash
14:14:59 <djazayeri> what's the url for connect?
14:15:03 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12957]: logmanager: added support for file, rolling file and daily rolling file … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12957> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #463 (enhancement closed): Internationalization issue: Person relationships <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/463#comment:3>
14:15:07 <docpaul> but i would be proud to partake of your pecan pie
14:15:20 <danielf`> djazayeri, http://connect.openmrs.org/ i think
14:17:53 <djazayeri> The 'manage addresses' should really go under "my profile"
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14:24:39 <Suneeth> hi jmiranda
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14:30:23 <Mkop> <docpaul> there is no pepper in my paprikash <-- what's that supposed to mean?
14:30:43 <Mkop> or is it a "you have to be on the call to understand the joke" kind of thing?
14:33:54 <downeym> theres no lexicon for docpaul
14:34:30 <downeym> except perhaps /dev/random
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14:35:23 <docpaul> haha, Mkop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6CtAauWe1U
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14:37:08 <wyclif> hey
14:37:58 <downeym> wyclif: register your nick :)
14:38:19 <downeym> !refer wyclif http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
14:38:19 * OpenMRSBot refers wyclif to http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
14:39:07 <danielf`> djazayeri, you can add me to the volunteers list
14:39:47 <wyclif> Type /msg OpenMRSBot !help
14:40:02 <wyclif> Type /msg
14:40:09 <djazayeri> http://openmrs.org/wiki/OpenMRS_2.0_User_Interface_Redesign
14:40:12 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5iaB> (at openmrs.org)
14:40:18 <danielf`> http://openmrs.org/wiki/OpenMRS_2.0_UI_Framework
14:40:19 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5iaC> (at openmrs.org)
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14:45:58 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2218 (defect closed): HTMLFormEntry: "Preview Form From File" doesn't handle international characters properly <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2218#comment:1> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #762 (enhancement closed): newPatientFormController should be based on Patient object <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/762#comment:3> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12959]: htmlformentry: updated version number to 1.6.3 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12959> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12958]: htmlformentry: fixed Preview HTML Forms From File so that it is overrides … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12958>
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14:48:01 <pascal`> hi
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14:55:26 <saimanohar> hi pascal
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15:05:18 <saimanohar> pascal: just to inquire, has the project Genome Data Storage and Drug Resistance Prediction been slotted in gsoc?
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15:13:33 <pascal`> nribeka++
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15:15:30 <Echidna> a lot of people in here
15:17:05 <bwolfe> they're all here for you Echidna
15:17:13 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12961]: htmlformentry-1.5.x: fixed submission bug in Time Widget; bumped up … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12961> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12960]: logmanager: added save button to tools page and replaced auto-save option … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12960> || OpenMRS Modules: HTML Form Entry 1.5.4 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <https://dev.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=htmlformentry&version=&1.5.4> || OpenMRS Modules: HTML Form Entry 1.6.3 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <https://dev.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=htmlformentry&version=&1.6.3>
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15:19:26 <r-friedman> djazayeri: how did yesterday go?
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15:20:15 <djazayeri> r-friedman: relatively brief discussion
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15:20:34 <Echidna> bwolfe: i knew this day would come eventually, i must flee
15:20:35 <r-friedman> djazayeri: any notes?
15:21:44 <r-friedman> how is hibernate helping us outside of smoothing out the use of a variety of DB products?
15:22:11 <djazayeri> we decided that the important first step is to see what the performance implication is of not changing anything, but telling callers of LogicService how to properly do multiple evals in a single transaction
15:22:28 <djazayeri> and if that solves the performance issue, then we don't change anything
15:22:50 <djazayeri> re hibernate: saves us from writing sql in various places
15:23:21 <r-friedman> lets you write HQL instead?
15:23:39 <nribeka> i'm writing some rule for djazayeri to test out the performance
15:23:55 <djazayeri> lets you write HQL or do "criteria queries"
15:24:09 <djazayeri> but also creating/saving/deleting objects is a one-liner
15:24:41 <r-friedman> does it help manage DB changes?
15:24:49 <djazayeri> not really
15:24:55 <djazayeri> changes from mysql to postgres: yes
15:25:02 <djazayeri> updates to the data model: no
15:25:08 <r-friedman> right
15:25:40 <nribeka> nosql ftw
15:26:17 <r-friedman> does it help with cache management?
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15:28:33 <r-friedman> last week there was an example where the DB object was copied to a new object to be mucked over by the interface
15:28:48 <r-friedman> we don't ever expose the hibernate object, do we?
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15:32:10 <bwolfe> r-friedman: kind of. the object hibernate returns is a subclass of our main Patient/User/Obs/Encounter objects.
15:32:32 <bwolfe> typically that hibernate object is what is returned through the api, but the api thinks its getting a normal Patient/User/Obs/Encounter object
15:33:02 <nribeka> we need to code to a good infrastructure then bwolfe
15:33:12 <nribeka> that's totally not a laptop scale of data
15:33:40 <nribeka> so where is that infrastructure going to be?
15:33:46 <bwolfe> your laptop
15:34:08 <nribeka> dev becomes really slow (significantly slow than the kenya server)
15:34:25 <bwolfe> yeah
15:34:54 <nribeka> so the question is: is openmrs going to something like amazon s3 :P
15:35:08 <nribeka> going to have
15:35:18 <bwolfe> s3 is just a storage engine
15:35:25 <bwolfe> its a database essentially
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15:35:31 <bwolfe> you can read/write to it via web services
15:35:36 <jfloppy> hi :)
15:35:53 <bwolfe> nribeka: you're thinking of amazon ec2 cloud servers
15:35:59 <nribeka> ooo :p
15:36:12 <nribeka> hi jfloppy
15:36:15 <bwolfe> downeym is working on putting demo on ec2
15:36:19 <jfloppy> hi nribeka :)
15:36:23 <nribeka> aha ... nice bwolfe
15:36:33 <downeym> so ec2 is expensive
15:36:38 <downeym> more than verio
15:36:46 <bwolfe> wow, really?
15:36:51 <zeshan> its expensive if you need a persistent machine
15:36:51 <downeym> at least for something like demo that we want to run 24x7
15:36:53 <nribeka> i'm definitely not going to load 2m patient in my lappie. poor lappie
15:36:54 <bwolfe> once you factor in how much we use it?
15:37:01 <zeshan> it's really cheap if you have a short term need
15:37:05 <downeym> what zeshan said
15:37:17 <r-friedman> bwolfe: so if you modify an object you get from the api, but don't yet write it back through the api, aren't hibernate activities going on behind the scene?
15:38:02 <bwolfe> r-friedman: yeah, theres a little feature where if you save any object back then any loaded (and modified) object is also saved
15:38:06 <bwolfe> "feature"
15:40:01 <nribeka> ah my poor lappie is survive ...
15:40:37 <r-friedman> bwolfe: seems like we are trying to micromanage hibernate
15:41:14 <r-friedman> bwolfe: should we let it know our object model and deal with it, make the api a facade?
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15:42:02 <bwolfe> r-friedman: yeah, but that would take a lot of work (translating off of hbm objects onto api objects, then off of api and onto hbm to save)
15:42:39 <downeym> http://uits.iu.edu/page/amee
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15:45:16 <pascal`> downeym, yeah, this week's agenda wasn't that great
15:45:36 <r-friedman> meeting extended to consume the time
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15:46:42 <downeym> agenda--
15:47:21 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12962]: * dump was missing some information like autoincrement, indexes, … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12962>
15:49:03 <pascal`> downeym, I can hear
15:49:22 <umashanthi> downeym: yes, I can hear
15:49:29 <downeym> thanks :D
15:50:27 <umashanthi> today there wasn't any delay during the demo :)
15:51:22 <r-friedman> bwolfe: but how much time is hibernate taking with its background activities
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15:51:46 <bwolfe> r-friedman: over 9000
15:51:46 <r-friedman> bwolfe: if its objects are untouched until save, then it won't be caching and writing
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15:52:23 <bwolfe> the caching is done at object load time
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15:53:33 <r-friedman> bwolfe: right, but if the api gets a new object to write back, then why do we need hibernate updating the cached version?
15:54:01 <r-friedman> bwolfe: not quite what i meant
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15:54:52 <bwolfe> we don't
15:55:28 <r-friedman> if i get an encounter and edit it, hibernate is maintaining the cache, but then I go to save the encounter, is the same underlying hibernate object used?
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16:17:31 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2243 (enhancement created): Focused OpenMRS optimizations <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2243>
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16:47:39 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12963]: htmlformentry: tweak to htmlformfromcontroller; no functional changes <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12963> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2244 (defect created): OpenMrsUtils.getFileAsString() should specify UTF-8 as default <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2244>
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17:17:47 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12964]: logmanager: added validation check for file path field of file appenders … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12964>
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17:54:56 <firzhan> djazayeri: hi
17:56:03 <djazayeri> hi firzhan
17:56:21 <firzhan> djazayeri: This is about the ticket 2241
17:56:38 <djazayeri> Yes? What's up?
17:56:41 <firzhan> i think currently we cant check only the date
17:56:52 <firzhan> bcoz of tht backwarads compatabilty
17:56:55 <firzhan> issue
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17:57:05 <djazayeri> Yes.
17:57:16 <djazayeri> You are right, the isDate() method cannot change its behavior
17:57:45 <djazayeri> I meant that we want to add another method (maybe "isDateOnly()") that checks for just Date.
17:57:50 <firzhan> djazayeri: So we have to check something on the object
17:57:56 <firzhan> thtz calling this method
17:58:28 <firzhan> yeah
17:58:31 <firzhan> u r correct
17:58:34 <firzhan> i got it
17:58:40 <djazayeri> sorry if I wasn't clar.
17:58:41 <djazayeri> clear
17:58:47 <firzhan> isDateOnly()
17:58:51 <firzhan> clear
17:58:59 <firzhan> sorry
18:04:39 <bwolfe> code review in 25 mins. http://openmrs.org/wiki/2010-04-15_Code_Review
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18:20:02 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2245 (task created): Refactor openmrs:format tag to consistently handle OpenmrsMetadata <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2245>
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18:50:09 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12965]: logmanager: moved all configuration functions into service layer <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12965>
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19:50:14 <robbyoconnor> oh my docpaul!
19:50:15 <robbyoconnor> :)
19:50:37 <docpaul> :)
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20:41:36 <downeym> hello world
20:48:40 <bwolfe> hello non-world-traveller
20:49:12 <bwolfe> downeym: were you flying delta?
20:49:15 <downeym> !beerme
20:49:15 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: (beerme <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "action slides $1 a pint".
20:49:23 <downeym> bwolfe: yeah
20:49:25 <bwolfe> downeym: you should've asked to be put on the Washington DC --> NBO flight
20:49:34 * bwolfe (isn't sure they actually still have that)
20:49:45 <downeym> nope
20:50:02 <downeym> i had them check for alternates like that :D
20:50:36 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12967]: chica_scorable_jit * display a message on the grease board indicating … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12967> || Burke Mamlin: Improving OpenMRS Code Review <http://blog.burkeware.com/archives/118>
20:53:50 <bwolfe> downeym: that sucks
20:54:05 <bwolfe> now you'll probably get stuck with an extra crappy seat too :-(
20:54:11 <downeym> actually i got a better seat ;)
20:54:51 <downeym> bwolfe: FYI we are going with at least one VM from IU instead of EC2 or waiting on OSU (at least for now)
20:55:32 <bwolfe> downeym: yeah, burke broke that news. sounds fine with me
20:55:41 <bwolfe> are you going to get that set up before you go?! :-D :-D
20:55:54 <downeym> hahah maybe at this rate
20:56:14 <downeym> regardless i'll work on it while i'm out
20:57:16 <downeym> Guest63718 = wyclif ?
20:58:25 <bwolfe> downeym: does modules.openmrs.org need bounced?
20:58:55 <downeym> hmmm
20:59:17 <downeym> 42 session
20:59:41 <downeym> org.apache.tomcat.dbcp.dbcp.SQLNestedException: Cannot get a connection, pool error Timeout waiting for idle object
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21:11:45 <downeym> bwolfe: i am going to turn down the frequency on the monitors, i think the monitoring may be spawning too many sessions before they expire
21:12:06 <bwolfe> downeym: ha, could be
21:12:26 <downeym> and in turn, hurting performance from time to time
21:12:30 <bwolfe> downeym: or it could be that people are doing lots of ajax searches in their 1.7 openmrs installations :-)
21:12:36 <downeym> could be ;-)
21:13:17 <downeym> but that is the known unknown, the monitors are the known knowns, so we at least know them and can do something about it. who knows what the unknown unknowns might be doing
21:14:18 <bwolfe> I fear the unknown unknowns
21:16:29 <downeym> how do you know?
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21:22:10 <bwolfe> I don't
21:23:01 * downeym knows nothing
21:50:51 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2232 (task closed): AlertRecipient does not have uuid column <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2232#comment:2> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12968]: Added uuid column to AlertRecipient - #2232 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12968>
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22:17:12 <kennymac> djazayeri, i see you were at the code review, were you involved in reviewing #2189?
22:17:42 <djazayeri> kennymac: what ticket is 2189 again?
22:18:01 <djazayeri> yes, I can comment on that.
22:18:37 <kennymac> djazayeri, it is the one involving changing a PersonService method to be able to ignore retired records
22:18:46 <kennymac> ahh
22:19:11 <kennymac> yeah, sorry have been afk, should I have been at the review since I was working on that ticket?
22:19:12 <djazayeri> did someone send you notes about this?
22:19:29 <djazayeri> We made some comments, and there are to-dos, but they aren't mentioned in a ticket comment yet.
22:19:30 <kennymac> I am looking at the notes at http://openmrs.org/wiki/2010-04-15_Code_Review
22:19:55 <djazayeri> We're still working on the logistics of code reviews.
22:20:14 <kennymac> I am just not sure exactly how this should be implemented, I am aware of the options but not sure which one it is people are wanting
22:20:15 <djazayeri> It would have been good if you'd been there, but we didn't give you any sort of notification that we'd be looking at that ticket.
22:20:22 <djazayeri> I can explain:
22:20:54 <kennymac> ahh ok, i see... just checking if I was expected to be there or not
22:20:57 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1686 (enhancement closed): Change Password Improvements <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1686#comment:44> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12970]: Change Password Improvements - #1686 Author: aravindm, sneha <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12970> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12969]: perufitnessstudy. added los olivos and san martin de porres to peru … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12969>
22:21:07 <djazayeri> The OpenMRS convention is that service methods *should* return retired metadata, unless specifically excluded.
22:22:06 <djazayeri> So the correct solution (which you didn't have any way of knowing) was to change the existing PersonService.getPersonAttributeType(~4 args) to have it return retired PersonAttributeTypes also
22:22:31 <djazayeri> Then the getPersonAttributeTypeByName method would just magically work, with minimally invasive changes.
22:22:51 <djazayeri> You added another service method which duplicated the existing one and added a boolean includeRetired.
22:23:13 <djazayeri> We decided that you didn't need to do that.
22:23:51 <kennymac> ok so PersonService.getPersonAttributeType(~4 args will remain to have 4 args and always return retired methods?
22:23:56 <djazayeri> Anyway, the point is that you can do this with many fewer lines of code, by just changing the behavior of an existing service method.
22:23:56 <djazayeri> yes
22:24:10 <djazayeri> it should be changed to return retired PersonAttributeTypes
22:24:27 <djazayeri> exactly
22:25:21 <kennymac> so i assume there are no developers relying on this opperating the way it does current, i.e. not returning retired methods?
22:26:15 <djazayeri> It is highly unlikely that anyone is relying on that.
22:26:41 <djazayeri> But we also decided that it's not okay to backport the fix to 1.5.4 or 1.6.2.
22:27:01 <djazayeri> If there are module developers relying on this (still unlikely) they should catch it during the 1.7-alpha/beta/RC process.
22:28:00 <kennymac> ahh i see, well it is good to clarify that, I don't think it would have been right for me to assume that this was the way to proceed without confirmation fromt he review, so cheers!
22:28:59 <kennymac> I will try to get patch up soon and just leave a comment that I spoke to you about it...
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23:21:11 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2240 (task closed): LocationTag has a 'tag' property that should be renamed to 'name' instead <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2240#comment:9> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12971]: fixing #2240 - LocationTag has a 'tag' property that should be renamed to … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12971>
23:22:09 <kennymac> djazayeri, changing the getPersonAttributeType method to return retired+non retired makes 2 unit tests fail that seem to rely on the previous behaviour, should I modify these unit tests to take into account the new behaviour?
23:22:22 <djazayeri> how do they fail?
23:22:38 <djazayeri> Were there retired PersonAttributeTypes in the standardTestDataset that they now return?
23:22:45 <djazayeri> if so, yes, you should change the tests.
23:25:32 <kennymac> djazayeri, they were not in the standardTestDataset they were in PersonServiceTest-createRetiredPersonAttributeType.xml, but yes they were retired PersonAttributeTypes
23:25:42 <djazayeri> okay, same idea.
23:25:49 <kennymac> yeah
23:25:50 <djazayeri> Yes, change the tests to expect retired PATs.
23:26:04 <kennymac> ok, np
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23:28:34 <Guest63718> hey
23:28:47 <djazayeri> hi Guest63718 . :-)
23:28:56 <Guest63718> this is wyclif
23:29:02 <Guest63718> lol
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23:35:12 <downeym-mobile> Wyclif hiding from us? :)
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23:51:19 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2246 (task closed): users.uuid needs a not-null constraint <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2246#comment:1> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12972]: fixing #2246: users.uuid needs a not-null constraint <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12972> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2246 (task created): users.uuid needs a not-null constraint <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2246>
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23:55:02 <robbyoconnor> !beerme dead people
23:55:02 * OpenMRSBot slides dead people a pint
23:55:11 <robbyoconnor> :)