IRC Chat : 2010-04-08 - OpenMRS

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02:29:56 <nribeka> great email from jmiranda http://bit.ly/cFoHv3*
02:30:01 <nribeka> to all students :)
02:53:57 <Mkop> as things stand now, I don't think I'm applying to gsoc
02:54:16 <Mkop> unless things drastically change between now and Friday
02:54:22 <Mkop> which isn't gonna happen
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03:17:38 <Mkop> hi downeym-mobile
03:19:49 <openmrs_web593> Hello Mkop
03:19:59 <Mkop> hi openmrs_web593
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03:53:58 <Mkop> it's certainly quiet here in IRC-land
03:55:14 <djazayeri> (sound of crickets chirping)
03:58:08 <robbyoconnor> wow
03:58:23 <robbyoconnor> I LOVE using User Stories
03:58:26 <robbyoconnor> it helped me heaps
03:59:16 <robbyoconnor> djazayeri: you busy? Even though you're not mentoring me and this app is for Sahana-Py would you peek at it? I need this app to REALLY shine
03:59:40 <djazayeri> robbyoconnor: email it to me.
03:59:50 <robbyoconnor> by the way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMART_%28project_management%29
03:59:52 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5c89> (at en.wikipedia.org)
03:59:54 <robbyoconnor> consider using that!
03:59:56 <djazayeri> i can take a quick peek, but i don't have a ton of time now
03:59:58 <robbyoconnor> That is helping me heaps :)
04:00:02 <robbyoconnor> yeh it's lengthy
04:00:14 <robbyoconnor> they requested A LOT of info
04:00:44 <robbyoconnor> I actually drew from Facility Data Module as a jumping off point for the data model
04:01:01 <robbyoconnor> there were some paralells :)
04:01:16 <robbyoconnor> I should actually prolly get feedback from the mentor :X
04:01:54 <robbyoconnor> if there's anything i learned last summer is I need small goals and SMART is a GREAT methodolgy for project planning
04:02:09 <djazayeri> small goals are good
04:02:15 <djazayeri> frequent small releases
04:02:26 <djazayeri> not sure what methodology that is specifically
04:02:27 <djazayeri> :-)
04:04:09 <robbyoconnor> it's cool :)
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04:04:24 <robbyoconnor> I set each goal to be a user story
04:04:47 <robbyoconnor> one of the goals can technically be broken up farther
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05:27:04 <openmrs_web593> good bye and good luck
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08:35:07 <pascal`> *now known
08:35:10 <pascal`> coffee++
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08:39:49 <Echidna> so pascal
08:39:55 <Echidna> any unrest in your country?
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08:41:44 <pascal`> hey Echidna
08:42:12 <pascal`> maybe some... it's not visible to me... i don't watch the news...
08:42:41 <suneeth> hi justin
08:42:44 <suneeth> r u there
08:42:59 <suneeth> i dont think he is around
08:43:31 <pascal`> suneeth, he's not here
08:43:37 <pascal`> suneeth, his nick is jmiranda
08:43:46 <suneeth> ohh
08:44:02 <suneeth> i wanted some feedback on my proposal
08:44:47 <pascal`> suneeth, it's probably best to do that by email... i think you can reach him on justin@openmrs.org
08:44:56 <suneeth> ok
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09:06:24 <Shazin> Hi All
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09:11:00 <suneeth> hi shazin
09:11:08 <suneeth> which project are you applying for
09:11:09 <pascal`> hi Shazin
09:11:24 <Shazin> Well 3
09:11:41 <Shazin> Hi suneeth
09:11:57 <Shazin> Refine Module Administration
09:12:32 <Shazin> Change Modules to Use Liquibase Change Set File
09:12:54 <Shazin> Concept Proposal Module
09:13:04 <Shazin> and 1 another one of mine own idea
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09:29:49 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12890]: logmanager: fixed problem of system appender being null sometimes <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12890> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12889]: modified by krishnaja <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12889>
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09:46:12 <openmrs_web567> hi
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09:50:08 <saimanohar> hi pascal
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09:55:44 <ShanAJ> hello
09:55:48 <ShanAJ> im shan
09:56:53 <pascal`> hi ShanAJ
09:56:57 <pascal`> hi saimanohar
09:57:47 <ShanAJ> im willing to participate in the HTML form entry module enhancement project
09:58:05 <ShanAJ> I have a sound Java knowledge
09:58:28 <ShanAJ> I want to know weather that would be enough
09:59:21 <ShanAJ> If there are any other things which I should learn what are they
10:00:31 <pascal`> ShanAJ, a review of technologies mentioned here: http://openmrs.org/wiki/OpenMRS_Technical_Overview should help
10:00:32 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1jT5> (at openmrs.org)
10:01:45 <pascal`> ShanAJ, once you've done that, download the HTML Form Entry Module source and start playing around :)
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10:03:00 <saimanohar> pascal,did u get a chance to go through my proposal for genome data storage...
10:03:27 <saimanohar> i have gone through the regadb datamodel and trying to understand it
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10:03:49 <saimanohar> i am also going through the HL7 format for the same
10:04:15 <pascal`> saimanohar, I haven't taken a detailed look yet, sorry
10:04:36 <pascal`> ShanAJ_, I think you may have missed some of my chats, look here: http://dev.openmrs.org/irclogs/2010/04/08
10:05:13 <openmrs_web019> hi all
10:05:16 <saimanohar> can u provide me some feedback to improve my application
10:05:17 <pascal`> saimanohar, also have a the OpenMRS module framework... because I think you'll probably end up needing to create a module as well
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10:05:22 <pascal`> hi openmrs_web019
10:05:55 <saimanohar> i am familiar with creating a module in OpenMRS
10:06:13 <firzhan> pascal`: hi , when i was trign to upload the proposal google is displaying an error message likethis
10:06:13 <firzhan> malformed start tag, at line 24, column 70
10:06:32 <pascal`> firzhan, try asking in #gsoc
10:06:42 <firzhan> k
10:06:45 <firzhan> thnx
10:06:48 <pascal`> firzhan, unfortunately I can't help because I've never uploaded a proposal before
10:07:15 <firzhan> i think we dnt have to upload proposals
10:07:26 <firzhan> itz only showing text area to copy them
10:08:18 <pascal`> I'm nt firzhan, I've never done it... maybe there's something about it on the website or in the FAQ
10:08:30 <pascal`> otherwise I'm sure someone in #gsoc will be able to help
10:08:36 <firzhan> yeah
10:08:41 <firzhan> thnc pascal
10:09:20 <pascal`> !refer firzhan [tabcomplete]
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10:11:36 <pascal`> saimanohar, say more about what you've done in Java... the frameworks/patterns you've used etc. also include that you've already looked at Rega.. and have made openmrs modules
10:11:44 <pascal`> saimanohar, in general, the more detail you provide, the better
10:12:12 <pascal`> saimanohar, if english isn't your primary language, use google translate :)
10:12:56 <pascal`> saimanohar, it looks good... just more detail about your different projects and how you've used all the tech you've listed...
10:15:59 <saimanohar> ok thanks
10:16:32 <saimanohar> i would be glad to receive more inputs
10:17:56 <ShanAJ_> thanx pascal for the link
10:18:34 <firzhan> pascal`: i uploaded it
10:18:36 <firzhan> :)
10:18:54 <ShanAJ_> why dont we straight away use HTML to code
10:19:04 <pascal`> cool firzhan :)
10:19:16 <pascal`> ShanAJ_, to code what?
10:19:16 <ShanAJ_> instead why do we use Java
10:19:48 <pascal`> ShanAJ_, HTML isn't a programming language
10:20:27 <ShanAJ_> ok
10:20:44 <Echidna> =o
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10:24:14 <pascal`> lol Echidna
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10:29:20 <saimanohar> pascal i havent submitted the modules
10:29:54 <saimanohar> but in order to understand the structure of open mrs and how it works i have created a module
10:30:05 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12891]: logmanager: fixed not being able to press reload when only one module … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12891>
10:30:19 <saimanohar> so would it be fine to mention it in the application
10:32:33 <pascal`> saimanohar, mention as much as you can
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10:45:39 <saimanohar> no i have created a module in last year gsoc 2009
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10:46:02 <saimanohar> along with my friend for integrationwithopenempi
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11:00:12 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12892]: logmanager: fixed appender form not saving locationInfo setting for XML … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12892>
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11:06:46 <kennymac> hi all
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11:08:42 <umashanthi> kennymac: hi
11:09:05 <kennymac> hi umashanthi :)
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11:12:27 <pascal`> hi kennymac
11:13:09 <kennymac> hi pascal`
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11:13:51 <kennymac> so how long until the conference call today anybody?
11:14:26 <umashanthi> kennymac: http://openmrs.org/wiki/2010-04-08_Developers_Conference_Call
11:14:30 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5cC+> (at openmrs.org)
11:14:39 <pascal`> kennymac, 2hrs45mins
11:14:55 <pascal`> !devmtg
11:14:55 <OpenMRSBot> pascal`: "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer meeting Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern - http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
11:14:58 <suneeth> hey pascal see u in d call
11:15:16 <kennymac> ahh great, which makes it 3pm for me :)
11:15:17 <pascal`> hey suneeth
11:17:03 <suneeth> hey
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11:25:25 <suneeth> hey pascal how do we upload the mock up screens
11:25:32 <suneeth> in the application
11:26:00 <pascal`> not sure suneeth
11:26:16 <pascal`> dont know if you can
11:26:24 <pascal`> suneeth, maybe someone in #gsoc knows
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11:37:14 <kennymac> suneeth: there is a form field on the actual application on the gsoc site that lets you link to external resources
11:38:07 <kennymac> i guess you could also upload to some filesharing website and embed the link in your app, the app can contain html
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12:30:33 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12893]: logmanager: added missing reconnectionDelay field to appender form <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12893> || OpenMRS Modules: Log Manager 1.1 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <https://dev.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=logmanager&version=&1.1>
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13:00:42 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12894]: logmanager: creating 1.1 tag <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12894>
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13:09:52 <downeym> !devcall starting in 50 minutes
13:09:52 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: Error: "devcall" is not a valid command.
13:09:59 <downeym> !devmtg :)
13:09:59 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: Error: "devmtg" is not a valid command.
13:10:04 <downeym> ok well then
13:10:25 <firzhan> nribeka: hi
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13:12:14 <nribeka> hi firzhan
13:12:58 <firzhan> nribeka: I hv sent u the proposal. If u hv any time go through it
13:12:59 <firzhan> :)
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13:15:03 <nribeka> you can submit them to google
13:15:14 <nribeka> i can view them there and give some comments there too
13:15:27 <downeym> nribeka: he did, it is now in your queue :)
13:15:35 <firzhan> nribeka: Yeah I hv submit the thr
13:15:52 <nribeka> ooo ok ok. cool firzhan
13:15:59 <nribeka> in my queue now
13:16:08 <nribeka> fifo one
13:16:32 <downeym> !devmtg
13:16:32 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer meeting Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern - http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
13:16:56 <downeym> today we have almost 100 applications :)
13:18:04 <bwolfe> wow, just yesterday I saw it at 45
13:18:15 <bwolfe> guess thursday early morning is a popular day to apply!
13:18:50 <downeym> we will have double that tomorrow at least
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13:19:04 <firc> hehe
13:20:01 <bwolfe> yeah, theres always a rush at the end
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13:30:47 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12896]: in patientmatching module, in GUI, added some validation that a blocking … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12896> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12895]: logmanager: creating tag for 1.1 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12895>
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13:58:51 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer meeting Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern - http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
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14:01:56 <wyclif> hey
14:03:25 <downeym> http://connect.openmrs.org/ --- if you are participating in the dev meeting, please log in to Connect
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14:05:10 <pascal`> callmusic--
14:05:50 <downeym> we'll be starting in just a few minutes
14:05:55 <downeym> callmusic++
14:06:40 <bwolfe> /nick syhaas
14:06:52 <pascal`> !karma callmusic
14:06:52 <OpenMRSBot> pascal`: Karma for "callmusic" has been increased 1 time and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 0.
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14:10:49 <pascal`> lol @ chopin
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14:12:19 <bwolfe> http://openmrs.org/wiki/2010-04-08_Developers_Conference_Call
14:12:20 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5cC+> (at openmrs.org)
14:12:55 <nditada> InSTEDD devs at Argentina, not Geneva :-)
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14:14:59 <pascal`> hey djazayeri, jmiranda, burke
14:15:12 <jmiranda> hey pascal`
14:15:54 <burke> hey pascal`
14:16:12 <r-friedman> criticality detector
14:16:28 <djazayeri> hi pascal`
14:16:36 <pascal`> hey r-friedman
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14:22:49 <jmiranda> djazayeri, it's probably based on the apiKey
14:23:03 <jmiranda> not the twitter address
14:23:20 <djazayeri> hmm...okay
14:24:07 <pascal`> +1 for queueing
14:24:12 <r-friedman> hey pascal`
14:24:17 <downeym> +1 for queueing too
14:24:39 <downeym> nditada: sorry for mix-up on city :)
14:24:44 <downeym> nditada: was thinking of WHO
14:24:47 <jmiranda> i would add a preferred-protocol hierarchy as well
14:25:07 <nditada> @downeym no worries
14:25:09 <pascal`> jmiranda, yeah, good idea... so if one channel fails... you could move over to the next
14:25:21 <jmiranda> so the message service will go down the chain and send a message to the most preferred message protocol
14:25:29 <jmiranda> and on failure, send to the next one
14:25:38 <pascal`> also, message priority could be useful
14:26:40 <bwolfe> how's the delay for you guys on the screensharing?
14:26:58 <kennymac> not much latency it seems
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14:27:20 <pascal`> bwolfe, it's actually pretty good here, I'm surprised
14:27:26 <umashanthi> two-three minutes delay
14:27:33 <kennymac> :O
14:27:38 <bwolfe> two to three MINUTES?!
14:27:51 <bwolfe> are you on a 2800 baud modem?
14:27:57 <pascal`> 1400
14:28:13 <bwolfe> thats the problem
14:28:14 <bwolfe> :-p
14:28:26 <umashanthi> yes. speed is improving now
14:28:33 <umashanthi> hope I can catchup
14:30:16 <saimanohar> the call suddenly dropped
14:31:39 <jmiranda> svn commit
14:31:41 <r-friedman> batkinson, how do you think this would work for your project?
14:32:29 <batkinson> unfortunately, I'm only on IRC... I'm in dueling meetings...
14:32:54 <bwolfe> batkinson: and we lost? :-/
14:33:00 <jmiranda> instead of what?
14:33:00 <batkinson> no... sharing
14:33:01 <batkinson> :D
14:33:37 <batkinson> jmiranda: was that directed to me?
14:34:28 <jmiranda> batkinson, no
14:34:50 <pascal`> batkinson, I think it was in the wrong channel
14:34:50 <jmiranda> someone on the call mentioned INSTEDD (sp?)
14:34:58 <pascal`> should have been in #badjokes
14:35:02 <batkinson> lol
14:35:04 <jmiranda> i was making a bad joke
14:35:18 <jmiranda> nice one pascal`
14:35:27 <batkinson> I love it... not a bad one... I laughed ;D
14:35:35 <pascal`> :D
14:35:49 <downeym> batkinson: we'll have a replay of the audio available later
14:35:55 <saimanohar> what was it about objective-c here
14:35:57 <saimanohar> ?
14:36:14 <batkinson> downeym: great... can you point me to that?
14:36:19 <downeym> saimanohar dieterich has coded in obj c before :)
14:36:31 <saimanohar> ok...
14:36:33 <downeym> batkinson: it will be linked from the minutes an hour or two after the call
14:36:59 <batkinson> downeym: cool... I'll definitely check it out
14:37:35 <jmiranda> saimanohar, i first the noticed the objective-c-ness when dieterich wrote (( ))
14:37:54 <saimanohar> oh...
14:38:12 <saimanohar> is there anyone around here
14:38:20 <saimanohar> whos a developer of iphone apps
14:38:32 <pascal`> i see a screen
14:38:49 <jmiranda> saimanohar, other than that, his code is well-commented -- burke may have been commenting on something else
14:38:57 <bwolfe> saimanohar: burke has...and apparently deterich has (on the phone, not on irc)
14:39:40 <saimanohar> ok..
14:39:53 <jmiranda> saimanohar, i started playing around with it a few months ago, but i've been away from my mac for a while
14:39:55 <bwolfe> jmiranda: obj c has extraneous parens? :-/
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14:41:19 <saimanohar> hum..yes i have been developing some apps for iphone/ipod for a while thats why i was intrested to know
14:41:33 <downeym> dieterich worked on squarepegged iphone app - http://medic.frontlinesms.com/2009/05/29/n2y4/
14:41:34 <saimanohar> it really uses lot of parens
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14:42:15 <burke> saimanohar: I have done some Objective-C and noticed that Dieterich had chosen some class names similar to Apple's API (e.g., making a "Delegate"). I was complementing him on his design.
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14:42:56 <pascal`> adium++
14:43:41 <saimanohar> burke: i also had done some of it for about an year i have left it since 3 months
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14:48:58 <saimanohar> do we have gsoc updates in this week
14:49:13 <pascal`> saimanohar, http://openmrs.org/wiki/2010-04-08_Developers_Conference_Call
14:49:13 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5cC+> (at openmrs.org)
14:49:18 <saimanohar> ?
14:49:24 <bwolfe> not sure what "updates" we'll have
14:49:37 <downeym> saimanohar: mostly for mentors
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14:49:57 <downeym> saimanohar: just to make sure mentors remember the upcoming timeline and what they need to do
14:50:15 <saimanohar> hmm..ok
14:51:46 <bwolfe> downeym: its marked as a 30 min item. how much is there to remind??
14:51:59 <downeym> bwolfe: that depends on how much burke talks :)
14:52:13 <bwolfe> ah...that could be a lot
14:52:21 <burke> I heard that!
14:52:22 * downeym wants to ask the group how we handle "new" ideas that students submit
14:52:27 * downeym hides from burke
14:52:31 <downeym> errr, thor
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14:52:46 <downeym> thor++
14:53:08 * thor strikes thunder down upon downeym and smites him
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14:53:23 <burke> wow... that was odd. :)
14:53:24 <downeym>
14:53:30 <downeym>
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14:54:56 <bwolfe> would have been better if those had done a /kick on downeym :-p
14:55:07 <downeym> now i'm just smitten for burke
14:55:25 <downeym> or by burke, something like that. eck.
14:55:27 <burke> students can propose "new" projects and they can be considered along with existing projects. if there's a really well thought out idea that is competitive and we can identify mentors, then we may choose to go with that project; however, it is typically more difficult to successfully apply with a "new" idea compared to an existing project idea.
14:55:56 <downeym> burke: how have we reviewed those in the past?
14:56:08 <downeym> i have a stack of them here :)
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14:56:28 <docpaul> hi
14:56:31 <burke> same as other projects. divide & conquer once application period ends.
14:56:55 * downeym assigns them all to burke ;)
14:57:44 <pascal`> hi docpaul
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14:59:14 <bwolfe> http://socghop.appspot.com
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15:00:00 <pascal`> downeym, what time?
15:00:20 <bwolfe> 3pm EST on Monday
15:00:21 <pascal`> X_x
15:00:36 <bwolfe> code review is every monday 1-3 pm
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15:01:42 <zeshan> Time for Mentor Call - http://bit.ly/bZ2Fsu
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15:02:12 <pascal`> zeshan++
15:02:34 <zeshan> Wow. i think that's my first ++. :)
15:03:04 <pascal`> !karma zeshan
15:03:04 <OpenMRSBot> pascal`: Karma for "zeshan" has been increased 2 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 1.
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15:06:38 <bwolfe> burke/win were right about comments on apps.
15:06:54 <bwolfe> http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline see first "Interim Period" row
15:06:57 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5cDf> (at socghop.appspot.com)
15:09:28 <downeym> bwolfe++
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15:10:09 <downeym> zeshan++
15:10:23 <pascal`> I volunteer to be release manager for 3.0 =D
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15:12:13 <pascal`> d'oh!
15:12:25 <burke> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Release_Process
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15:14:46 <pascal`> I want to do one, not the one of the next few though :)
15:14:55 <pascal`> -the
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15:16:09 <pascal`> 3.0 is taken
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15:17:00 <r-friedman> hi, rupaul
15:17:01 <judywawira> become a release manager...not soon byt someday in the future....
15:17:14 <rupaul> hi r-friedman
15:17:29 <judywawira> the shadow managers is a good idea...
15:18:22 <bwolfe> assistant managers :-)
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15:31:48 <pascal`> someone who is typing has an unmuted mic
15:32:38 <downeym> that person has been muted :)
15:32:46 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2163 (task closed): Show/Hide "Clone DB" on the "New Server Form" <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2163#comment:1>
15:33:29 <r-friedman> downeym is the unmuted mike?
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15:33:35 <pascal`> r-friedman, *was
15:33:40 <downeym> r-friedman: not i
15:34:24 <pascal`> bwolfe, all releases should be stable
15:34:43 <pascal`> the major and minor versions are just to indicate how different, different versions are
15:34:46 <r-friedman> pascal`, even if the developers aren't
15:34:56 <pascal`> developers are rarely stable
15:35:03 <bwolfe> pascal`: stable pre 1.0 is a lot different than post 1.0
15:35:23 <r-friedman> the release manager cleans the stables?
15:35:29 <bwolfe> stable pre 1.0 means that things are not going to change a lot
15:35:34 <bwolfe> stable post 1.0 means that everything works
15:35:37 <pascal`> I think you just have to look at individual modules
15:35:48 <bwolfe> agreed
15:36:10 <pascal`> I think you have to look at test coverage, and just ask the dev how good they feel about it
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15:36:29 <r-friedman> who nails down stability?
15:38:20 <bwolfe> each dev I think
15:38:28 <pascal`> also something that is a pre requisite for a lot of other modules
15:39:11 <r-friedman> something that is bundled should have been tested for compatibility with any features it replaces
15:39:44 <r-friedman> or does that make it core?
15:41:37 <syhaas> no Buggs today!!!
15:41:50 <downeym> syhaas--
15:41:53 <bwolfe> syhaas: hopefully no bugs either
15:41:54 <nribeka> i want buggs
15:42:01 <syhaas> Buggs--
15:42:01 <downeym> buggs++
15:42:10 <judywawira> sending one...
15:42:21 <judywawira> i had one yesterday as i was deploying maven....on eclpse..
15:42:22 <syhaas> downeym likes bugs
15:42:26 <downeym> buggs = http://www.indycanal.com/
15:42:42 <judywawira> of course the problem was the proxy....
15:43:10 <judywawira> and it reminded me how hard it was to do the same for my first openmrs installation a few yrs ago..
15:44:03 <docpaul> of course he likes Buggs... he's the mayor
15:44:55 <r-friedman> should be documented reasonably well
15:46:35 <bwolfe> documentation/tests/future changes all those should factor into "stability"
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15:47:52 <pascal`> full/lite distro
15:48:10 <bwolfe> platinum distro ?
15:48:15 <pascal`> elite
15:48:33 <r-friedman> .net version
15:49:51 <nribeka> r-friedman++
15:50:13 <r-friedman> oracle version
15:50:37 <pascal`> I'd like the .net/oracle version in my inbox by EOD tomorrow
15:50:50 <nribeka> pascal`++
15:51:29 <pascal`> screen sharing worked great for me
15:51:42 <bwolfe> pascal`: the pigeons carried it fast enough ?
15:51:54 <pascal`> pidgeons++
15:52:15 <pascal`> what's the problem with screen sharing?
15:52:21 <pascal`> worked fine for me on Ubuntu
15:52:29 <nribeka> how many pigeons do we need to have to send the screen sharing?
15:52:31 <bwolfe> ubuntu can't share their screen
15:52:33 <djazayeri> you can't share your screen on ubuntu
15:52:36 <pascal`> oic
15:52:48 <pascal`> got it
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15:54:15 <r-friedman> bye all
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15:54:36 <kennymac> the screenshares were pretty good today
15:55:07 <downeym> thanks kennymac
15:55:13 <downeym> lunch time in indianapolis
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15:55:23 <kennymac> numtium is quite exciting... hope see it being used by openmrs
15:55:37 <kennymac> enjoy your lunch :)
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15:56:58 <downeym> we are keeping IRC open while we eat :)
15:57:38 <kennymac> just can't get enough? :P
15:59:03 <downeym> you guys are our dinner entertainment
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16:03:20 <judywawira> dinner time...almost in kenya
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16:03:29 <judywawira> more of nyama choma
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16:11:05 <bwolfe> nyoman choma
16:11:11 <downeym> hi nyoman-choma
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16:13:19 <judywawira> <sy> waiting for your reply
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16:24:27 <burke> http://bit.ly/ana85i
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16:25:39 <pascal`> cool
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16:29:29 <jmiranda> burke, damn ... i paid too much!
16:29:39 <jmiranda> i bought licenses for most of their apps when the price was $10 per license
16:29:42 <jmiranda> i should have waited
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16:33:29 <pascal`> i know a guy who works for AWS, I should try and get a free instance (=
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16:34:53 <judywawira> people good day...time for supper...
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16:44:04 <bwolfe> pascal`: they give free instances for open source
16:44:10 <bwolfe> jmiranda: did you get 10 users for $10 ?
16:44:32 <jmiranda> bwolfe, yeah
16:44:55 <bwolfe> and are you using it for personal tasking?
16:44:59 <jmiranda> not sure how i plan to use it, but didn't want to pass up getting all those licenses for 60 bucks
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16:46:13 <bwolfe> jmiranda: you bought 6 of them??
16:46:30 <jmiranda> bwolfe, my dream is to create a simple todo list app that integrates jira, trac, remember the milk, your filesystem, your email, etc
16:46:40 <robbyoconnor> oh this is rich
16:46:44 <jmiranda> :)
16:47:00 <robbyoconnor> my mentor cant see my gsoc application :|
16:47:32 <jmiranda> oh i thought you were talking about my super app ^^^^
16:48:00 <jmiranda> bwolfe, the nicest feature is that it allows you to do time tracking as well
16:49:28 <jmiranda> bwolfe, i bought a license for the 6 different apps that were available
16:50:13 <jmiranda> i spend more on coffee every month, so the cost was justified :)
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16:54:44 <djazayeri> bwolfe, wyclif: I'm going to lower the priority of ticket #2046 (Upgrade ANT Installer to work with 1.5+ Installations), and create a new ticket about creating a new windows installer
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16:55:05 <bwolfe> djazayeri: thats fine. I like the idea of assigning that to tw too
16:55:11 <djazayeri> great.
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16:56:37 <bwolfe> djazayeri: and I don't think the installer has to be the ant one... wyclif has yet to be able to check out hte antinstaller one because they committed it wrong
16:56:58 <bwolfe> djazayeri: and I have a bitrock license for the latest to give out if they want to use that
16:57:24 <djazayeri> bwolfe: we should ask them to pick the best technology (as they'll theoretically have actual experts)
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16:58:14 <bwolfe> djazayeri: also a good option
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17:15:53 <downeym> The audo replay of the earlier meeting is now available online: http://openmrs.org/wiki/2010-04-08_Developers_Conference_Call#Transcripts
17:15:56 <downeym> *audio
17:15:57 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5cUc> (at openmrs.org)
17:17:37 <pascal`> downeym++
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17:34:56 * bwolfe rushes out to not listen to the dev call recording
17:34:57 <bwolfe> ;-)
17:35:41 <batkinson> downeym: very cool, thanks!
17:41:13 <downeym> batkinson: not a problem
17:41:26 <downeym> you can also get it on our podcast :)
17:45:29 <robbyoconnor> Roger Friedman is a funny guy lol
17:46:08 <robbyoconnor> downeym: burn the recording from last week or cut out my part!
17:46:09 <robbyoconnor> LOL
17:46:17 <downeym> robbyoconnor: lol ok
17:46:18 <robbyoconnor> I hate my voice on tape :(
17:46:23 <robbyoconnor> nah leave it actually
17:46:33 <robbyoconnor> (you were probably gonnaa do that lol)
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18:03:57 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2217 (task created): Create a windows installer <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2217>
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18:28:48 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe: our IDEA license expires soonish - do i need to ping burke to get renewed?
18:29:34 <bwolfe> of course
18:29:43 <bwolfe> I'm not an enabler
18:29:56 <robbyoconnor> BAH
18:30:13 <robbyoconnor> July 27
18:32:22 <robbyoconnor> finito
18:32:32 <bwolfe> thats not even close to "coming up"
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18:34:52 <robbyoconnor> eh it's close!
18:35:17 <robbyoconnor> too close for my comfort!
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18:47:13 <nribeka> firzhan, good proposal :)
18:47:21 <nribeka> will send some feedback to you later on
18:47:27 <nribeka> some other proposal too :)
18:47:36 <firzhan> cool
18:47:38 <firzhan> :
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19:03:48 <robbyoconnor> :)
19:03:55 <robbyoconnor> my proposal is pretty good :X
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20:01:47 <harsha> djazayeri: hi
20:02:21 <djazayeri> hi harsha
20:02:32 <harsha> i updated the page : http://openmrs.org/wiki/How_to_use_the_global_properties_portlet
20:02:34 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5cZV> (at openmrs.org)
20:03:38 <djazayeri> I'll take a look
20:03:46 <harsha> ok
20:06:44 <djazayeri> harsha: looks much better. Can you include a link to http://openmrs.org/wiki/Global_Properties_Descriptions in the description up top?
20:06:44 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/59Hj> (at openmrs.org)
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20:09:07 <harsha> djazayeri: ok Darius
20:09:29 <harsha> what else u see needs to update
20:11:03 <djazayeri> The first line shouldn't mention formimportexport properties in particular but just say that "GPs are used to configure the systems behavior. Some examples in core are (link)".
20:11:12 <djazayeri> otherwise it's fine.
20:11:22 <djazayeri> I may make some minor wording changes after you're done.
20:11:39 <harsha> cool
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20:21:54 <djazayeri> harsha: fyi, your documentation highlighted the need for another ticket: #2219
20:22:16 <harsha> you mean
20:22:39 <harsha> i will see
20:22:47 <djazayeri> I mean there's a missing feature in the portlet that I noticed while looking at the screenshot in your documentation
20:22:51 <djazayeri> It's not your fault.
20:22:57 * djazayeri blames bwolfe
20:23:21 <bwolfe> !ticket 2219
20:23:21 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Ticket #2219: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2219
20:23:50 <harsha> :)
20:24:10 <harsha> i ll take a look
20:25:29 * bwolfe apologizes profusely to darius for having written new features for openmrs
20:25:52 * djazayeri takes it back
20:29:16 <downeym> heh
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20:36:02 <harsha> djazayeri: have a look now
20:36:21 <harsha> i just updated
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20:37:54 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2219 (enhancement created): Global properties portlet needs to be able to exclude multiple module framework properties <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2219>
20:40:22 <harsha> bwolfe: i attached a patch for formimport stuff as well
20:41:56 <djazayeri> what's the equivalent of {{{ code }}} in mediawiki?
20:43:14 <harsha> ?? i did not get you
20:43:40 <djazayeri> That was a general question. In trac, you delimit blocks of code with {{{ and }}}
20:43:55 <djazayeri> Does anyone know the equivalent in mediawiki?
20:45:35 <harsha> bwolfe: #619
20:45:50 <bwolfe> djazayeri: pre html tag
20:45:57 <djazayeri> how quaint
20:46:02 <bwolfe> djazayeri: or put spaces in front of each line
20:46:15 <bwolfe> !ticket 619
20:46:15 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Ticket #619: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/619
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20:47:29 <bwolfe> harsha: you have done this yet: "Can you attach a patch with all of your changed files in one file? "
20:47:39 <bwolfe> harsha: it is precluding your patch from getting reviewed again
20:48:04 <harsha> sure
20:48:14 <djazayeri> harsha: I made a couple wording edits
20:48:27 <harsha> ok
20:51:00 <kennymac> gn everyone
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20:57:28 <harsha> i m sleepy , will catch you tmrw , GN
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21:12:23 <raffael> hi Darius!
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22:08:57 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Modules: Spring MVC UI Framework 0.1 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <https://dev.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=ui.springmvc&version=&0.1>
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