IRC Chat : 2010-04-01 - OpenMRS

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00:05:07 <downeym-mobile> robbyoconnor: wiki is up:)
00:05:43 <robbyoconnor> not for me it's not LOL
00:05:52 <robbyoconnor> I was adding my item to the list
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00:05:58 <downeym-mobile> WWW
00:06:04 <downeym-mobile> Errrph
00:06:09 <bwolfe> robbyoconnor: is it a 401?
00:06:17 <robbyoconnor> it wont connect period
00:06:23 <robbyoconnor> dev. works
00:06:27 <robbyoconnor> www. doesn't
00:06:30 <downeym-mobile> WWW.downforeveryoneorjustme.com
00:07:11 <robbyoconnor> ... it's saying its up
00:07:13 <robbyoconnor> but it's NOT!
00:07:14 <downeym-mobile> !down
00:07:14 <OpenMRSBot> downeym-mobile: "down" --- Does an openmrs.org site seem down? Check here for more information: http://status.openmrs.org/
00:07:15 <robbyoconnor> WTF
00:07:31 <robbyoconnor> bout 20 minutes ago, MySQL and Apache stopped on the server which runs several of our PHP-based web apps. The services were restarted to resolve the incident.
00:07:32 <robbyoconnor> :)
00:07:34 <robbyoconnor> that makes sense
00:08:00 <downeym-mobile> Date?
00:08:05 <robbyoconnor> 30
00:08:06 <robbyoconnor> lol
00:08:18 <robbyoconnor> it worked up until like 5 mins ago
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00:09:59 <robbyoconnor> 30 March lol
00:12:57 <downeym> robbyoconnor: reload status page, better?
00:13:07 <bwolfe> perhaps you're locked out by the firewall. whats the error you see robbyoconnor ?
00:13:35 <robbyoconnor> how do I get UNLOCKED out lol
00:13:43 <robbyoconnor> I was updating the wiki...
00:13:59 <bwolfe> by not uploading questionable content ;-)
00:14:03 <downeym> explain the error :)
00:14:33 <robbyoconnor> I WASNT!!!
00:14:34 <robbyoconnor> lol
00:14:38 <robbyoconnor> it wont connect!
00:14:39 <bwolfe> robbyoconnor: whats your IP ?
00:14:41 <robbyoconnor> that's the error
00:14:44 <robbyoconnor> hold on
00:14:59 <bwolfe> whats with the yelling?
00:15:11 <bwolfe> and hysterical laughing? :-p
00:15:28 <robbyoconnor> 98.15.209.4
00:15:45 <robbyoconnor> I'M NOT YELLING!!!
00:15:49 <robbyoconnor> LOL!!
00:15:53 <downeym> don't wake the bot
00:15:57 <bwolfe> you tried linking to a spam domain
00:15:58 * robbyoconnor rolls around on the floor
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00:16:03 <robbyoconnor> er...
00:16:07 <robbyoconnor> is.gd LOL
00:16:10 <robbyoconnor> is spam?
00:16:19 <downeym> is.spam
00:16:20 <robbyoconnor> It's a url shortening service...
00:16:28 <bwolfe> don't use those
00:16:32 <robbyoconnor> okay..
00:16:34 <robbyoconnor> sorry.
00:16:35 <bwolfe> (when they aren't needed)
00:16:37 <downeym> :)
00:16:47 <robbyoconnor> I was doing it so I could link the download for the facility data module
00:16:50 <bwolfe> good for email so that things don't wrap and for tweeting...
00:17:10 <robbyoconnor> could you remove the block LOL
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00:17:41 <downeym> !spam
00:17:41 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: Error: "spam" is not a valid command.
00:17:46 <robbyoconnor> I was trying to give all the info necessary
00:18:04 <bwolfe> you should be unblocked now
00:18:07 <downeym> what was the target of the is.bd link?
00:18:26 <robbyoconnor> hmm no :(
00:18:30 <robbyoconnor> the module repo!
00:18:31 <robbyoconnor> lol
00:18:37 <downeym> he
00:18:39 <downeym> heh, even
00:18:50 <robbyoconnor> er no lol
00:18:55 <downeym> just link to mod repo, it will track downloads for you :)
00:19:14 <robbyoconnor> still blocked
00:20:26 <bwolfe> robbyoconnor: are you unblocked now?
00:20:51 * robbyoconnor facepalm
00:20:51 <bwolfe> not sure what else to do...I clicked "unblock" next to your ip and clicked "update" :-/;
00:21:01 <robbyoconnor> now I know not to link is.gd
00:21:03 <robbyoconnor> WTF
00:22:29 <bwolfe> brb, putting eden to bed
00:23:21 <robbyoconnor> who's eden?
00:23:47 <robbyoconnor> guess im def. not applying to openmrs lOL
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00:23:54 <downeym> hi gurbuz
00:24:31 <gurbuz> hi
00:25:06 <gurbuz> does openmrs have the ability/requirement for tranferring binary data?
00:25:25 <gurbuz> especially images
00:28:25 <downeym> robbyoconnor: any luck?
00:28:28 <downeym> gurbuz: yes :)
00:29:22 <gurbuz> how file transfer handled?
00:29:40 <gurbuz> ftp, or web service with attachment etc.
00:30:08 <downeym> gurbuz: here's an example usage
00:30:11 <downeym> gurbuz: http://www.mocamobile.org/development/index.php?title=Image:Viewer.png
00:30:16 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5XNV> (at www.mocamobile.org)
00:31:28 <downeym> gurbuz: also see http://openmrs.org/wiki/Complex_Obs_Support
00:33:54 <gurbuz> hmm I wanted to ask if any image files are shared between hospitals etc.
00:34:08 <gurbuz> file transfer from one client to another
00:34:34 <downeym> that is a bit trickier
00:34:36 <downeym> :)
00:35:22 * downeym waits for bwolfe to get back, he may know if a complex obs (image) could be sent as HL7 message
00:37:02 <downeym> robbyoconnor: for mtg tomorrow please link your to your server in IRC and on wiki (now is not necessary)
00:37:22 <robbyoconnor> I will
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00:40:44 <downeym> cool
00:41:24 <downeym> robbyoconnor: further changes on http://status.openmrs.org/
00:41:51 <robbyoconnor> where?
00:42:04 <downeym> date
00:42:26 <robbyoconnor> nice
00:43:09 <downeym> no confusion allowed at 4am
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00:45:57 <robbyoconnor> :)
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00:54:13 <bwolfe> gurbuz / downeym : that moca project was meant for remote systems to take pictures and send them to another server where an "expert" could comment on them
00:54:18 <bwolfe> I don't know how it owrks
00:54:20 <bwolfe> *works
00:54:49 <bwolfe> I don't know if/how hl7 supports binary, but I do know that we would have to write something in openmrs to handle that.
00:54:56 <bwolfe> gurbuz: is this a specific need of yours ?
00:56:08 <gurbuz> yes
00:56:24 <bwolfe> gurbuz: can you elaborate at all?
00:57:24 <gurbuz> I want to apply the gsoc
00:57:55 <bwolfe> !gsoc
00:57:55 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "gsoc" --- More information about OpenMRS and Google Summer of Code 2010 is available at http://soc2010.openmrs.org/
00:58:23 <bwolfe> gurbuz: the best way to get accepted is to choose an already-defined project. those have been decided by the community and developers as priorities
00:58:23 <gurbuz> I have some experience about binary data transfer
00:58:37 <bwolfe> that should not stop you from proposing your own project...its just less likely to be chosen
00:58:51 <gurbuz> hmm ok
00:59:12 <downeym> !bwolfesays
00:59:12 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to
00:59:42 <gurbuz> ok I have picked :)
00:59:46 <gurbuz> OpenMRS Media Viewer Enhancements for Radiology
00:59:46 <downeym> BTW one of the projects is to do improvements on the Moca Image viewer :)
00:59:49 <downeym> ahh
00:59:52 <downeym> there you go :)
00:59:59 <gurbuz> yes
01:00:12 <robbyoconnor> Katherine Kuan was a 2009 GSoC student
01:00:15 <robbyoconnor> now mentor
01:00:16 <robbyoconnor> :)
01:00:21 <downeym> you could contact Katherine for questions and answers about how it works
01:00:32 <gurbuz> I made a similar viewer before
01:01:59 <downeym> cool
01:02:22 <gurbuz> do I have to mail her?
01:02:34 <gurbuz> I think she does not use IRC
01:02:41 <downeym> gurbuz: yeah i've not seen her on irc
01:03:05 <downeym> gurbuz: she is very good about responding to email quickly
01:03:11 <gurbuz> :)
01:03:32 <gurbuz> ok i am on the way
01:04:36 <robbyoconnor> good luck
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01:47:01 <chopin> hey-o
01:47:06 <downeym> hi chop
01:47:27 * chopin thinks he marred his AMRS checkout; re-installing :'-(
01:48:09 <downeym> argh
01:48:24 <chopin> blah! what the ping pon?!
01:48:27 <chopin> g
01:49:37 <chopin> bwolfe: have you ever seen this? http://pastebin.com/Z3gzEAZZ
01:49:55 <chopin> it's on patient.form
01:50:14 <chopin> the AMRS installation is working fine
01:50:21 <chopin> but for some reason, it's not working on my machine
01:50:25 <chopin> blargh!
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01:55:50 <robbyoconnor> that can be cleaned up using ternary expressions on the EL expression by the way
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01:57:24 <downeym> hi openmrs_web257
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02:00:51 <downeym> hi openmrs_web689
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02:01:08 <saimanohar> hi all
02:06:10 <saimanohar> hi robby u there
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02:07:30 <bwolfe> chopin: http://dev.openmrs.org/search?q=Duplicate+local+variable+status&go=Search&wiki=on&changeset=on&ticket=on
02:07:34 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5XnV> (at dev.openmrs.org)
02:08:23 <chopin> bwolfe: hrm, but i'm at 12508 ...
02:08:43 <chopin> bizarre
02:08:51 <bwolfe> chopin: I'm not saying its fixed...I'm saying I've seen the error before ;-)
02:08:57 <bwolfe> the other fixes were for name and address
02:08:57 <chopin> ahoo
02:09:03 <bwolfe> looks like you're dealing with identifier
02:09:14 <chopin> i thought this was supposedly fixing this particular one: http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12099
02:10:24 <saimanohar> i have applied majorly for Genome Data Storage and Drug Resistance Prediction
02:10:51 <saimanohar> i have applied for some other projects to which were quite intresting
02:10:59 <saimanohar> the mentor is chris
02:11:18 <saimanohar> when is he usually on irc
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02:12:12 <downeym> hi openmrs_web457
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02:12:32 <suneeth> hi @bwolfe
02:12:51 <bwolfe> hi
02:13:09 <bwolfe> chopin: ah, its quite possible
02:13:18 <suneeth> i saw the comment on 262 i would be cworking on it
02:13:23 <bwolfe> chopin: maybe you don't have that merged right?
02:13:31 <bwolfe> ok
02:13:37 <chopin> bwolfe: this is pretty awesome ... I swear i merged branches/openmrs-1.6.x/ at 12507 to amrs-1.6.x
02:13:54 <chopin> but the version i'm looking at in my local instance is olllld
02:13:55 <chopin> :|
02:14:02 * chopin is frustrated as poop
02:14:25 <chopin> blah
02:14:27 <bwolfe> and we all know how poop is very frustrated
02:14:42 <chopin> time to do a manual diff
02:14:43 <bwolfe> so you must mean business
02:14:58 <chopin> it's business time
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02:18:07 <downeym> jmiranda++
02:18:21 <bwolfe> downeym: ?
02:18:26 <nribeka> bwolfe, ?
02:18:28 <downeym> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Unassigned_Projects#Advanced_Concept_Management
02:18:32 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5Xql> (at openmrs.org)
02:18:33 <downeym> nribeka: ?
02:18:38 <nribeka> downeym, ?
02:18:40 <bwolfe> nribeka: ?
02:18:43 <downeym> OpenMRSBot: ?
02:18:43 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: Error: "?" is not a valid command.
02:18:54 <bwolfe> ?: ?
02:19:09 <downeym> %: #
02:19:09 <nribeka> lol
02:19:17 <suneeth> notes.subjectId is pointing to the entity like patient, encounter , to which a note can be attached
02:19:30 <suneeth> i am reffering to notes
02:20:55 <downeym> !ticket 262
02:20:55 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: Ticket #262: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/262
02:24:40 <suneeth> what about 262
02:25:39 <bwolfe> was there a question there?
02:26:49 <saimanohar> no
02:27:07 <suneeth> i got confused
02:27:10 <suneeth> sorry
02:28:17 <suneeth> can we apply to more than one project in openmrs
02:28:52 <suneeth> i have applied for four relevant to my previous work
02:29:02 <suneeth> but i would also want to learn more
02:29:11 <downeym> !bwolfesays
02:29:11 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to
02:29:34 <saimanohar> thans
02:29:37 <downeym> :)
02:29:45 <suneeth> thanks
02:30:06 <bwolfe> that bwolfe guy is so smart
02:30:08 <bwolfe> and helpful
02:30:11 <bwolfe> and handsome
02:30:28 <downeym> and humble
02:31:07 <bwolfe> oh yes, the most humble
02:31:29 <downeym> !karma eflow
02:31:29 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: eflow has neutral karma.
02:34:37 <suneeth> has boolean concept proposal removed from the list
02:35:02 <downeym> suneeth: yes
02:35:14 <nribeka> bwolfe++
02:35:30 <nribeka> who is that bwolfe guy anyway bwolfe-guy
02:35:41 <downeym> suneeth: http://n2.nabble.com/Boolean-Concept-GSOC-project-td4800103.html
02:35:44 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5XvP> (at n2.nabble.com)
02:35:56 <bwolfe> I dunno, but I like him
02:40:42 <suneeth> hi robby are you around
02:41:57 <chopin> bwolfe: you may not believe this
02:42:44 <chopin> besides the patches to mrnGenerator, localHeader and ORUR01Handler that we apply for AMRS, the -only- file that didn't somehow merge ... is editPatientIdentifier.jsp
02:42:49 <saimanohar> can we attend the developers call today
02:42:50 <chopin> :-|
02:43:04 <chopin> saimanohar: certainly, as soon as we're all awake again
02:43:19 <saimanohar> ok
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02:43:20 <downeym> suneeth: yes
02:43:35 <downeym> errr -- saimanohar: yes
02:43:37 <downeym> :)
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02:44:30 <downeym> !tabcomplete
02:44:30 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "tabcomplete" --- Most IRC clients let you easily write someone's nickname in the channel using tab completion. Just type the first few letters, then <tab>, and voila!
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02:46:14 <nribeka> o/ chopin
02:46:22 <chopin> what's up nribeka
02:46:33 <chopin> you guys missed free pizza in the break room today
02:46:39 <nribeka> hah?
02:46:40 <nribeka> when?
02:46:41 <downeym> chopin: i did not
02:46:43 <chopin> 12:30pm
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02:46:45 <nribeka> i didn't know that
02:46:46 <nribeka> :(
02:46:50 <downeym> i took the last piece
02:46:51 <chopin> haha
02:46:55 <nribeka> huhuhu ...
02:46:58 <nribeka> i didn't get any
02:46:59 <nribeka> :(
02:47:04 <chopin> i scraped a few pieces to get my low-carb versions
02:49:35 <nribeka> booo ...
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02:58:17 <nribeka> sleep all?
03:10:09 <chopin> looking forward to sleeping, nribeka ...
03:10:16 <chopin> in fact, i think that's my cue
03:10:21 <chopin> chopin OUT.
03:11:34 <nribeka> nribeka out too
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06:55:51 <suneeth> hi miranda
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07:02:50 <robbyoconnor> suneeth: his name is justin :P
07:03:21 <jmiranda> hey suneeth
07:03:24 <jmiranda> hey robbyoconnor
07:03:42 <robbyoconnor> sup
07:03:55 <suneeth> oh
07:03:59 <suneeth> sorry for that
07:04:21 <suneeth> but there are no updates on the data migration tools
07:04:51 <suneeth> well can i ask how many applications have come so far for gsoc
07:05:59 <jmiranda> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Unassigned_Projects#Data_Migration_.26_ETL_Module
07:06:04 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5YR+> (at openmrs.org)
07:06:09 <jmiranda> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Unassigned_Projects#Advanced_Concept_Management
07:06:09 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5Xql> (at openmrs.org)
07:06:41 <jmiranda> i added my proposals to projects earlier tonight
07:06:54 <jmiranda> (errr ... late tonight)
07:07:43 <jmiranda> suneeth, not sure if we can answer questions about # of applications yet
07:07:48 <robbyoconnor> I can't get the freaking project im going for spec'd out :(
07:08:16 <jmiranda> suneeth, you can ask us at the end of the summer :)
07:08:18 <robbyoconnor> (im going for sahana-py this year :)
07:08:39 <jmiranda> robbyoconnor, nice. good luck.
07:08:55 <robbyoconnor> I dont kniow python at all!
07:08:55 <robbyoconnor> LOL
07:08:58 <robbyoconnor> im gonna wing it
07:09:04 <robbyoconnor> HOPEFULLY it doesn't blow up in my face
07:09:12 <robbyoconnor> learning python *AND* a new framework LOL
07:09:43 <suneeth> hey
07:09:45 <robbyoconnor> Paul wants me to let new students into the community and I think he's right :)
07:09:55 <suneeth> i have done the etl thing before
07:10:05 <robbyoconnor> I took it personally at first but oh well :)
07:10:10 <robbyoconnor> I'll still be around :)
07:10:12 <suneeth> but i am not sure if i can change the proposal now
07:10:37 <jmiranda> suneeth, you have until april 9th to change your proposal
07:11:02 <robbyoconnor> suneeth: do your proposal in a google doc
07:11:06 <robbyoconnor> this way you can change it :)
07:11:12 <robbyoconnor> then link the google doc :)
07:11:33 <robbyoconnor> (it's how im doing mine)
07:11:43 <jmiranda> robbyoconnor, sneaky ... i like it
07:11:53 <robbyoconnor> jmiranda: nothing sneaky!
07:11:55 <suneeth> but in the proposal we should be specifying the related experience to the project rather than mentioning about everything we have done so far right
07:12:13 <robbyoconnor> suneeth: the more experience the better!:)
07:12:18 <robbyoconnor> CONCISE
07:12:24 <suneeth> r u also applying for gsoc as a student
07:12:30 <robbyoconnor> yes -- but not w/ openmrs.
07:12:39 <suneeth> ohh
07:12:46 <robbyoconnor> suneeth: -- I just know what they want :P
07:12:51 <robbyoconnor> having listened :)
07:12:57 <robbyoconnor> concise, not too much
07:13:03 <robbyoconnor> show what you've done -- perhaps links
07:13:31 <robbyoconnor> jmiranda: a google doc is ultimately handy because i can draft it :)
07:13:46 <suneeth> ya but there are some internal tasks like data migration n stuff which we cant point to
07:13:50 <robbyoconnor> and im not limited to the character limit imposed by the TinyMCE editor
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07:14:01 <robbyoconnor> suneeth: then dont!
07:14:14 <robbyoconnor> just remember: there will be LITERALLY hundreds of proposals
07:14:23 <robbyoconnor> be kind -- dont write a book
07:15:30 <robbyoconnor> Good luck dude -- im off to bed in hopes ill get up for the conf. call
07:15:47 <robbyoconnor> jmiranda: if you're awake -- speak to you later LOL
07:15:49 <robbyoconnor> :)
07:15:59 <jmiranda> robbyoconnor, have a safe april fool's day
07:16:12 <robbyoconnor> jmiranda: i'll be demoing the facility data module
07:16:15 <robbyoconnor> it's finished.
07:16:20 <jmiranda> i hear
07:16:25 <jmiranda> looking forward to seeing it
07:16:37 <robbyoconnor> gonna run a local instance of tomcat
07:16:48 * robbyoconnor envisions his local connection slowing to a crawl lol
07:17:20 <robbyoconnor> good night :)
07:19:08 <robbyoconnor> LOL
07:19:18 <suneeth> justin i have worked with jasper etl
07:19:22 <robbyoconnor> google comes up w/ some ingenius hoaxes ALL original EVERY uear lol
07:19:24 <suneeth> before
07:19:31 <robbyoconnor> suneeth: put it in your proposal
07:19:35 <suneeth> ok
07:19:36 <robbyoconnor> :)
07:19:44 <robbyoconnor> good luck
07:20:02 <suneeth> thanks need it badly
07:20:05 <jmiranda> suneeth, yes ... listen to robbyoconnor
07:20:12 <jmiranda> he's a pro at this :)
07:20:43 <robbyoconnor> jmiranda: lol first year I had it in the bag
07:20:48 <robbyoconnor> second year i had to work hard
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07:21:40 <robbyoconnor> suneeth: also handy: a project plan timeline will help your chances
07:21:54 <robbyoconnor> even if it has to be tweaked -- it shows you can break it up into small pieces
07:22:18 <robbyoconnor> mock ups are good (i fought this one -- I wing my UIs LOL)
07:22:32 <robbyoconnor> usually have an idea in my head
07:22:58 <robbyoconnor> o/
07:23:02 <robbyoconnor> later
07:23:08 <robbyoconnor> im dead tired now
07:24:20 <suneeth> ok
07:24:30 <suneeth> thanks i would apply all these ideas
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07:27:06 <robbyoconnor> focus on a few and dont half ass
07:27:07 <robbyoconnor> :)
07:27:40 <robbyoconnor> zzzzzz
07:27:46 <robbyoconnor> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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07:38:22 <ruwan> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Unassigned_Projects#Approximate_Date_Support
07:38:23 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5L6D> (at openmrs.org)
07:38:58 <ruwan> "....patching the HL7 processor to accept approximate dates for these values.."
07:39:59 <ruwan> HL7 processor == ADTA28Handler.java??
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07:42:56 <ruwan> if I want to modify the HL7 processor of OpenMRS what are the files I'll be dealing with..?
07:43:12 <ruwan> or modules
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07:48:45 <ruwan> :(
07:49:06 <rcrichton> Hi ruwan, yes you would be dealing with the ADTA28Handler.java aswell as the ORUR01Handler.java. These Each process a HL7 message type.
07:49:38 <rcrichton> A HL7 ADT_A28 message and a HL7 ORU_R01 message
07:50:05 * pascal` notices: http://www.google.co.uk/intl/en/landing/translateforanimals/
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07:50:08 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5Xgc> (at www.google.co.uk)
07:50:26 <rcrichton> I'm not sure which one the aproximate dates will be most relevant for though.
07:55:04 <rcrichton> pascal`: LOL
07:56:01 <pascal`> Noticed the time units on google searches?
08:00:43 <rcrichton> Hehe 'Jiffies"
08:02:38 <pascal`> Results 1 - 10 of about 580,000 for sdfsdf. (0.04 femtogalactic years)
08:06:11 <rcrichton> :P
08:10:05 <rcrichton> Results 1 - 10 of about 14,800,000 for meh. (2.00 shakes of a lamb's tail)
08:11:08 <pascal`> haha
08:12:14 <rcrichton> Results 1 - 10 of about 14,800,000 for meh. (0.52 times the velocity of an unladen swallow)
08:14:24 <pascal`> lolz
08:26:55 <ruwan> Results 1 - 10 of about 3,940,000 for qwe. (0.11 microfortnights)
08:32:33 <rcrichton> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/different-kind-of-company-name.html
08:32:35 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5YRv> (at googleblog.blogspot.com)
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09:10:46 <ruwan> what version of the HL7 spec is used in OpenMRS..?
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09:12:37 <ruwan> what version of the HL7 spec is used in OpenMRS..?
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09:57:42 <pascal`> hey upul`
09:58:11 <upul`> hey pascal`
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10:16:16 <upul`> http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/03/pic_of_the_day_penguins_1.html
10:16:19 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5YV3> (at www.bbc.co.uk)
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10:37:24 <pascal`> hey downeym
10:37:30 <downeym> hello
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10:40:02 <Shazin> Hi All
10:40:24 <Shazin> When can we expect reviews for our GSoC Proposals
10:40:30 <Shazin> from Mentors?
10:40:41 <downeym> Not until after the application period has closed, after 9-April
10:41:36 <downeym> http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline
10:41:38 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5EB+> (at socghop.appspot.com)
10:43:03 <Shazin> downeym: Thanks a lot
10:43:12 <downeym> no problem
10:43:41 <Shazin> downeym: But would a mentor look through the submitted proposals before that?
10:43:57 <downeym> Shazin: maybe :)
10:44:21 <Shazin> downeym: May be is good :)
10:45:54 <pascal`> downeym, how's the Nexus working out?
10:46:01 <pascal`> downeym, still good?
10:46:06 <downeym> pascal`: yes sir
10:46:41 <downeym> pascal`: although regenstrief mail servers had an ssl certificate expire yesterday. it didn't like that at all
10:46:46 <pascal`> downeym, awesome, I've my eye on it for a while now... glad it performs well
10:46:47 <downeym> pascal`: which is not unreasonable
10:46:56 <pascal`> downeym, minor issue
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10:58:06 <downeym> hi openmrs_web673
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10:58:13 <downeym> hi openmrs_web980
10:58:55 <openmrs_web980> m
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11:00:31 <downeym> good morning chopin
11:00:45 <chopin> downeym: g'day
11:00:52 * chopin watches bacon cook
11:01:15 <openmrs_web980> It's fine i hope for copin
11:01:57 <openmrs_web980> isn't it?
11:02:08 <downeym> bacon++
11:02:18 * downeym is grooving to the new openmrs theme song ;)
11:03:59 <openmrs_web980> u mean?
11:04:14 <downeym> who means?
11:05:46 <chopin> downeym: calling freeconferencing for fun now?
11:05:58 <downeym> chopin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wBTM_E9PNU
11:08:29 <pascal`> hey chopin
11:10:38 <pascal`> downeym, I think we should have something more ominus
11:10:51 <downeym> lol
11:11:01 <downeym> that would be for bwolfe
11:11:02 <pascal`> *ominous
11:11:40 <pascal`> downeym, this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Ma4BvMUwU
11:11:41 <chopin> hiya pascal`
11:12:07 <downeym> haha
11:12:15 <openmrs_web980> pascal what ominus?
11:13:38 <pascal`> openmrs_web980, you mean what does ominous mean?
11:14:42 <pascal`> openmrs_web980, http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=define%3A+ominous
11:14:45 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5YWL> (at www.google.com)
11:15:13 <openmrs_web980> pascal what ominus?
11:15:37 <chopin> pascal`: which do you enjoy most, [diet] coke, coffee or tea?
11:15:47 <pascal`> chopin, coffee
11:16:06 <chopin> i knew there was something i liked about pascal`
11:16:10 <chopin> pascal`++
11:16:30 <downeym> dietcoke++
11:16:30 * pascal` turns up the volume on the ominous music
11:16:38 <pascal`> dietcoke--
11:16:46 <downeym> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ominous
11:16:48 <pascal`> coffee++
11:17:29 <downeym> hey now
11:17:34 <chopin> pascal`: i roast my own, when my air popper isn't dead
11:18:00 <chopin> my wife promised me a roaster for xmas, and we're waiting until the new one comes available
11:18:09 <pascal`> cool chopin
11:18:10 <chopin> pascal`: http://www.starbucks.com/blog/10113/starbucks-listens-to-customer-request-for-more-sizes.aspx
11:18:13 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5YPJ> (at www.starbucks.com)
11:18:16 <pascal`> I'll have to come round
11:18:49 <pascal`> lol
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11:20:07 <chopin> i take about 32oz with me to work every day ... a travel mug and a thermos
11:20:09 <chopin> love it
11:20:21 <chopin> and i love making bwolfe listen to me pour out the thermos into the mug
11:20:32 <chopin> hoping it makes him feel like running to the bathroom
11:20:49 <pascal`> haha
11:21:33 <pascal`> we dont have a proper coffee machine at Jembi chopin
11:21:42 <pascal`> chopin, it's a sad state of affairs :(
11:22:06 <pascal`> coffee is like fuel for developers
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11:24:39 <chopin> pascal`: exactly! at our place everyone likes dietcoke
11:25:03 <chopin> and so do i ... but i do wish we had decent coffee on brew
11:25:21 <chopin> it just needs to be one step closer to a real roast!
11:25:26 <chopin> </soapbox>
11:25:33 * chopin runs to the office ... see y'all
11:28:16 <downeym> cya
11:28:18 * pascal` thinks that the RI people probably need to to watch http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/sweet-misery-a-poisoned-world/ *cue ominous music*
11:28:21 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5YWV> (at topdocumentaryfilms.com)
11:28:21 <pascal`> later chopin
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11:40:05 <jfloppy> hi!
11:41:02 <upul`> hi
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11:44:10 <pascal`> hi
11:44:20 <suneeth> hi pascal
11:46:39 <ruwan> hi all!
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11:48:40 <pascal`> hi suneeth
11:48:58 <ruwan> QUOTE : In the current and future versions of HL7, the precision is indicated by limiting the number of digits used, unless the optional second component is present. Thus, YYYY is used to specify a precision of "year," YYYYMM specifies a precision of "month," YYYYMMDD specifies a precision of "day,"
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11:51:03 <ruwan> does openMRS support HL7 partial dates..? as above..?
11:51:48 <ruwan> http://unconxio.us/HL7/2.3DraftSpec/ch200062.htm
11:51:49 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5VJN> (at unconxio.us)
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11:58:53 <downeym> hi openmrs_web260
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11:59:28 <judywawira> hey mike...
12:01:13 <pascal`> hi judywawira
12:02:55 <judywawira> hey pascal
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12:07:42 <chopin> annnd back
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12:08:52 <pascal`> wb chopin
12:09:13 <chopin> pascal`: thanks :-) (coffee) (thumbsup)
12:09:23 <pascal`> chopin++
12:09:26 <pascal`> coffee++
12:09:29 <chopin> :-D
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12:10:31 <ruwan> hey chopin!
12:10:50 * chopin dives into figuring out how to inject stuff to InfoPath forms
12:10:54 <chopin> ruwan: hey-o
12:11:40 <ruwan> http://unconxio.us/HL7/2.3DraftSpec/ch200062.htm
12:11:40 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5VJN> (at unconxio.us)
12:12:26 <ruwan> chopin: 4th paragraph...
12:13:03 <chopin> ruwan: ah, good find
12:13:12 <chopin> ruwan: we are at 2.5 right now, possibly moving to 2.6 someday
12:14:01 <chopin> ruwan: we may have some documentation you can peruse, but i do beleive that precision is still embedded and there are no plans to remove it
12:15:49 <upul`> i think even if you get YYYY part only ADTA28Handler will read that part
12:16:16 <chopin> we use HAPI (http://hl7api.sourceforge.net/)
12:16:21 <judywawira> guys what would be a good way to share metadat??
12:16:23 <chopin> so, if they provide it, we'refine
12:16:26 <judywawira> metadata?
12:16:43 <chopin> ruwan: specifically, look at http://hl7api.sourceforge.net/v25/apidocs/index.html
12:16:46 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5YXa> (at hl7api.sourceforge.net)
12:18:26 <ruwan> chopin: http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs/trunk/src/api/org/openmrs/hl7/handler/ADTA28Handler.java
12:18:29 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5YXe> (at dev.openmrs.org)
12:18:54 <ruwan> lines 296-304
12:19:10 <chopin> ruwan: exactly
12:20:23 <ruwan> so no modifications to ORUR01Handler.java..?
12:20:51 <chopin> ruwan: what do you mean?
12:22:33 <upul`> judywawira, there's a potential project on that in gsoc list
12:23:21 <chopin> ruwan: those literals ("Y", "L") should be constants somewhere
12:23:32 <chopin> even though it's part of a "standard"
12:23:34 <chopin> it's still loose
12:23:49 <chopin> HL7 is loosey goosey
12:25:05 <ruwan> chopin: if we are to change the data model currently being used to represent dates in the system, only place we have to do modifications in >>terms of HL7 compatibility<< is the ADTA28Handler..?
12:26:22 <chopin> ruwan: unless we add flexibility to observation dates
12:26:32 <judywawira> i have seen the project
12:26:45 <judywawira> i just want to hear more on what other developers think and feel
12:27:00 <judywawira> i plan to work on it as a GSOC project
12:27:07 <ruwan> chopin: if so to the ORUR01Handler.java as well
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12:27:15 <chopin> ruwan: precisely
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12:30:31 <pascal`> wb downeym
12:31:33 <ruwan> chopin: why don't I see any code similar to those of ADTA28Handler for checking estimated dates in ORUR01Handler?
12:38:25 <chopin> ruwan: because we do not need it in ORUR01Handler ... yet
12:40:22 <ruwan> observation dates need not to be estimated.. they are just recorded as and when an observation is done
12:40:44 <ruwan> chopin: am I right?
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12:46:30 <chopin> ruwan: i believe that was part of the "extra credit"
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12:48:16 <chopin> ruwan: "Super-duper bonus points for enabling approximate dates within other aspects of the system — e.g., observation dates."
12:48:38 <ruwan> oh.. OK
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12:51:30 <judywawira> mike...my skype is misbehaving......
12:51:41 <judywawira> gotta run.. dont think i will make for the call...
12:51:42 <downeym> how?
12:51:48 <downeym> ok. we will have recording available later
12:52:00 <bwolfe> http://failblog.org/2010/04/01/epic-fail-photos-bacon-fail-or-win/
12:52:01 <judywawira> i cant chat with you...
12:52:03 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5YYP> (at failblog.org)
12:52:03 <bwolfe> I vote bacon WIN
12:52:05 <pascal`> hi bwolfe
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12:52:18 <judywawira> oh i will email you
12:52:31 <downeym> ok i will watch for the mail
12:52:42 <downeym> bwolfe: bacon baby!
12:52:44 <downeym> bacon++
12:52:57 <chopin> i'd drink it
12:53:01 <pascal`> bwolfe, I wouldn't recommend feeding that to your children
12:55:09 <bwolfe> good news, so far only 90% of the storeies on slashdot are april fools jokes
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12:55:51 <upul`> bwolfe, did you hear that openmrs 2 is going to be written in .net
12:56:05 <andrewaclt> lol
12:56:08 <bwolfe> ...aaaand 50% of messages in irc
12:56:14 <andrewaclt> As long as it's not MUMPs
12:56:44 <bwolfe> mmm, mumps
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12:57:20 <chopin> i like this the best: Super-duper bonus points for enabling approximate dates within other aspects of the system — e.g., observation dates.
12:57:23 <chopin> wait
12:57:25 <pascal`> bwolfe, have you seen the time units on google searches?
12:57:27 <chopin> i meant http://google.com
12:57:43 <chopin> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/different-kind-of-company-name.html
12:57:43 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5YRv> (at googleblog.blogspot.com)
12:58:19 <bwolfe> pascal`: ?
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12:59:35 <pascal`> bwolfe, (1) go to www.google.com, (2) do a search (e.g. "the lonliest number", (2) look at the time it takes to return the results
13:00:02 <pascal`> (two for one there ;)
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13:00:42 <kennymac> hi all
13:00:49 <pascal`> wait, I don't think I was suppose to have (2) twice there (=
13:00:50 <bwolfe> !google the%20loneliest%20number
13:00:50 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: http://www.google.com/search?q=the%20loneliest%20number
13:00:51 <pascal`> hi kennymac
13:01:16 <chopin> that's awesome
13:01:19 <chopin> femtogalactic years
13:01:31 <pascal`> there are lots of different ones
13:01:43 <bwolfe> (0.93 times the velocity of an unladen swallow)
13:01:51 <downeym> actually each search gives a different time unti
13:01:53 <downeym> *unit
13:02:10 <downeym> http://www.google.com/ig logo is "Topeka"
13:02:21 <pascal`> 1.20e-15 epochs
13:02:27 <downeym> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/different-kind-of-company-name.html
13:02:28 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5YRv> (at googleblog.blogspot.com)
13:02:49 <pascal`> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_hoaxes#2010
13:02:53 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5YYh> (at en.wikipedia.org)
13:02:59 <chopin> beautiful
13:03:07 <bwolfe> chopin: JFTI now?
13:03:53 <chopin> bwolfe: if you're referring to J. F. Taylor, Inc. i cannot help you
13:04:20 <bwolfe> JFGI --> JFTI
13:04:29 <chopin> oh hah
13:04:30 <bwolfe> (as of today)
13:04:33 <chopin> yep
13:04:36 <chopin> awesome
13:04:54 <pascal`> www.lmttfy.com
13:05:20 <chopin> i like how google has three (/) marks in front of the example "Before my blind date, I topeka'd him on AltaVista"
13:05:22 <pascal`> aparently not
13:07:20 <upul`> have you seen the Miracles of Evolution BBC documentary http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2008/03/pic_of_the_day_penguins_1.html
13:07:20 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5YV3> (at www.bbc.co.uk)
13:07:26 <upul`> it's 2 years old
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13:08:54 <downeym> hi batkinson
13:09:16 <pascal`> no upul`, is it good?
13:09:40 <upul`> yep, they found a colony of flying penguins
13:10:28 <pascal`> no they didn't
13:10:55 <pascal`> there's not way that can be true.... sure they dive out of the water... but that isn't flying
13:11:02 <upul`> yep, threre's the video in the page on top
13:11:45 <pascal`> hehe
13:11:52 <chopin> that guy is too happy to really be in antarctica
13:12:08 <pascal`> upul`++
13:12:16 <pascal`> that's a good one
13:12:27 <chopin> amazing footage though
13:12:35 <chopin> heheh
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13:13:41 <nribeka> listening to: Diet Coke will keep you alive by the Eagles
13:13:57 <pascal`> hey nribeka
13:14:16 <nribeka> yo pascal`
13:14:24 <downeym> dietcoke++
13:16:45 <ruwan> how can i join to the developer call..?
13:17:29 <kennymac> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
13:17:30 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/2Fzj> (at openmrs.org)
13:17:40 <downeym> ruwan: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
13:17:40 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/2Fzj> (at openmrs.org)
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13:18:13 <bwolfe> ruwan: its in 40 mins
13:18:37 <bwolfe> do we have an alias for that?
13:18:39 <bwolfe> !devcall
13:18:39 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "devcall" is not a valid command.
13:18:49 <downeym> !devmtg
13:18:49 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer meeting Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern - http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
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13:19:01 <bwolfe> ah, very intuitive :-p
13:19:06 <downeym> batkinson: you were an hour early :)
13:19:19 <batkinson> :D
13:19:38 <batkinson> I didn't want to be called tardy
13:19:55 <downeym> batkinson: you win the award for being first
13:19:59 <downeym> ;)
13:20:04 <batkinson> lol
13:20:04 <ruwan> bwolfe: thanks
13:20:49 <nribeka> firzhan, to add link in the admin page, use the extension point
13:20:50 <nribeka> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Module_Extension_Points
13:22:44 <nribeka> anyone interested in doing logic stuff should check the logic codebase and do the logic "small" ticket :)
13:22:48 <nribeka> !nribekasay
13:22:48 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: "nribekasay" --- ticket 2168 and ticket 2175
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13:23:29 <downeym> nribeka: you should have the bot re-learn that with some info other than the ticket numbers :)
13:23:38 <nribeka> lol
13:23:39 <nribeka> :D
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13:27:27 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12770]: pihmalawireports: added new look, some feature requests, a number of … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12770> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12769]: in patientmatching module, increased recent items in GUI to 10 instead of … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12769>
13:28:54 * downeym is alive this morning thanks to nribeka
13:29:15 <nribeka> hahaha ...
13:29:22 <nribeka> you owe me your soul downeym
13:29:30 <downeym> i owe you nothing
13:29:53 <nribeka> by drinking that diet coke, you have surrender your soul to me lol
13:30:08 <nribeka> contract with the devil
13:30:11 <downeym> nribeka: no wonder it tastes foul
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13:32:22 <nribeka> lol
13:32:59 <nribeka> devilish diet coke
13:33:05 <nribeka> dietcoke++
13:33:32 <downeym> !karma dietcoke
13:33:32 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: Karma for "dietcoke" has been increased 6 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 5.
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13:36:03 <umashanthi> hi all
13:37:17 <nribeka> yo umashanthi
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13:42:06 <downeym> hi openmrs_web945
13:42:15 <nribeka> hi downeym - bot
13:42:23 <downeym> hi winbot
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13:42:56 <suneeth> hi
13:43:13 <suneeth> want to participate in the developers call
13:43:26 <suneeth> but dont have skype credit
13:43:51 <downeym> suneeth: it's just a regular skype-to-skype call, no credit necessary :)
13:44:01 <bwolfe> !refer suneeth [devmtg]
13:44:01 * OpenMRSBot refers suneeth to "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer meeting Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern - http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
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13:45:41 <nribeka> why downeym - bot didn't say hi to openmrs_web904
13:45:53 <downeym> because 904 has been here before ;)
13:47:21 <upul`> april 1st marks 2 years for me in openmrs
13:47:30 <downeym> upul`: congrats :D
13:47:51 <dev29aug> Hello All, I am Devendra Gupta an engineering student from India. I have worked in java and made my project using IBM's aglets API to create 'mobile agents' for library system. These days I am reading about openmrs to spend a good summer in learning and doing the good project.
13:47:59 <upul`> thanks
13:48:08 <downeym> !refer YOU [devmtg]
13:48:08 * OpenMRSBot refers YOU to "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer meeting Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern - http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
13:48:21 <nribeka> upul`, i think me too. it's been 2 years around the irc
13:48:37 <nribeka> just irc-ing, no coding
13:48:39 <upul`> yep
13:49:14 <upul`> Hi dev29aug
13:49:33 <dev29aug> upul`, hello .
13:49:36 *** openmrs_web904 is now known as firzhan
13:49:38 <suneeth> hey freeconferencing is not online
13:49:58 <downeym> suneeth: it is for us :) did you add it?
13:50:12 <suneeth> yes
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13:50:36 <downeym> make sure you didn't add groupcalling
13:50:36 <suneeth> * Before the call begins, add the Skype user with Skype Name freeconferencing. (Do not choose "groupcalling".) This user will automatically appear "online" in your Skype contact list. * Start a regular Skype voice call to this user. * When instructed, use the numeric dial/keypad in Skype to enter the access code followed by the pound symbol: 707531 # * Note: If you are participating via Skype, please use a headse
13:52:16 <dev29aug> I am not an openmrs developer yet but I want to attend the weekly developer meeting its going starting within few minutes. Can I do that ? Is it for the active developers. ?
13:52:37 <upul`> everbody can join in dev29aug
13:52:43 <dev29aug> ok thanks
13:53:57 <luzhuangwei> Hi all, i also want to attend dev call:-)
13:54:10 <ruwan> !refer YOU [devmtg]
13:54:10 * OpenMRSBot refers YOU to "devmtg" --- Reminder: Developer meeting Thursday at 10:00 AM Eastern - http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
13:54:42 <luzhuangwei> Thanks, i have already seen it.
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13:55:35 <upul`> aglet is also a small plastic or metal sheath typically found on each end of a shoelace. i learned a new word today :-)
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13:55:59 * dev29aug waiting for the moderator .
13:57:32 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2192 (task created): Remote FormEntry Upload Data Privillege in Remote FormEntry Module <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2192>
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13:57:50 <downeym> hi openmrs_web139
13:58:00 *** openmrs_web139 is now known as r-friedman
13:58:19 <r-friedman> morning, downeym
13:58:23 <suneeth> joined the conference
13:58:41 <dev29aug> upul`, its aglets :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aglets
13:58:56 <suneeth> me n saimanohar have joined from one skype account
13:59:07 <upul`> yep dev29aug
13:59:10 * downeym says the conference will be a couple minutes late
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14:00:26 * dev29aug going to prepare a cup of coffee before conference starts.
14:00:59 * r-friedman going to excrete a cup of coffee before conference starts
14:01:04 <downeym> lol
14:01:29 <downeym> a few people are in our conference room, but they're leaving now
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14:02:16 <bwolfe> thanks for that info r-friedman
14:02:17 <downeym> pascal`: you on? :)
14:02:22 <pascal`> yeah downeym
14:02:23 <pascal`> =D
14:03:00 <r-friedman> bwolfe, i could have tweeted all the way through the process
14:03:24 <pascal`> ominous enough for everyone?
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14:04:29 <batkinson> pascal: unsettled by the music?
14:04:36 <bwolfe> r-friedman: or get an auto-tweet on flush
14:04:59 <pascal`> batkinson, I think it's a sign of the call to come (=
14:05:14 <r-friedman> bwolfe, bluetooth to the infrared flusher
14:05:15 <batkinson> heh
14:05:22 <kennymac> this music is from that movie requeim for a dream isn't it?
14:05:36 <kennymac> ohh it's gone ><
14:05:49 <pascal`> kennymac, yeah
14:06:00 <pascal`> downeym, music fail
14:06:13 <downeym> pascal`: did you catch it?
14:06:21 <pascal`> i did downeym, thanks =D
14:06:31 <pascal`> downeym, I don't think anyone really noticed
14:06:36 <downeym> Today's Agenda: http://openmrs.org/wiki/2010-04-01_Developers_Conference_Call
14:06:39 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5Y_V> (at openmrs.org)
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14:07:47 <pascal`> downeym, getting some feedback
14:07:58 <pascal`> or static rather
14:08:02 <pascal`> better
14:08:38 <pascal`> d'oh!
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14:09:48 <downeym> hi danielf_
14:10:00 <danielf_> hi downeym
14:10:22 * pascal` is on the call also
14:10:30 <suneeth> there is lot of static
14:10:35 * danielf_ too
14:11:00 * kennymac aswell
14:11:05 <r-friedman> catch the April fool agenda item?
14:11:17 <downeym> ruwan: please MUTE your skype
14:11:51 <danielf_> .NET huh
14:11:55 <ruwan> done
14:12:06 <r-friedman> danielf_, got it
14:12:33 <pascal`> like the music =D
14:12:48 <downeym> http://openmrs.org/wiki/2010-04-01_Developers_Conference_Call
14:12:48 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5Y_V> (at openmrs.org)
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14:13:19 <downeym> hi openmrs_web561
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14:13:29 <pascal`> hi burke
14:13:31 <pascal`> hi docpaul
14:13:35 <r-friedman> burke--
14:13:41 <pascal`> =O
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14:13:47 <docpaul> hi. :)
14:13:52 <pascal`> hi rcrichton
14:14:31 <rcrichton> hi pascal`
14:14:42 <downeym> ruwan: thanks :)
14:14:50 <ruwan> np!
14:14:56 <ruwan> downeym:
14:15:34 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v pascal`
14:16:31 <pascal`> put your cell numbers on your user page (=
14:16:36 *** docpaul sets mode: +v rcrichton
14:17:01 <docpaul> anyone with voice or ops can answer openmrs questions for you!
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14:17:29 <downeym> hi openmrs_web021
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14:17:39 <downeym> hi openmrs_web723
14:17:52 *** openmrs_web723 is now known as saimanohar
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14:18:00 <saimanohar> hi all
14:18:10 <rcrichton> hi saimanohar
14:18:11 <pascal`> hi saimanohar
14:18:17 <bwolfe> pascal`: right after you put your cc number on yours
14:18:37 <pascal`> 4901 **** **** 5013
14:18:40 <pascal`> bwolfe, ^
14:19:00 <downeym> dev29aug: please mute your skype :)
14:19:20 <bwolfe> docpaul is referring to "voice" and "ops" are the people in here with special characters or dots next to their name
14:19:38 <bwolfe> although there are people in here that have been around openmrs for a while but do not have "voice" in here
14:19:54 <docpaul> ben, feel free to admit them to the light.:)
14:20:19 <bwolfe> I would...except you never gave me irc room rights (or did you and not tell me...)
14:20:34 <docpaul> all you have to do is /mode #openmrs +v nick
14:20:38 * pascal` thinks danielf_ should have voice too
14:20:39 <bwolfe> althgouh I coudl do it temporarily though
14:20:48 * pascal` soon to be danielf`?
14:20:58 *** docpaul sets mode: +v danielf_
14:20:58 <dev29aug> downeym, mited.
14:21:03 <downeym> dev29aug: thanks :)
14:21:07 *** bwolfe sets mode: +v carl_jembi
14:21:10 <saimanohar> we lost you
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14:22:45 <pascal`> which projecT?
14:22:57 <saimanohar> we didnt get you
14:23:15 <pascal`> bwolfe, thanks
14:23:26 <pascal`> also, no thanks :)
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14:23:52 <pascal`> hey jmiranda
14:24:09 <pascal`> jmiranda, do you mind giving a 1 minute update on the reporting module? (next agenda item)
14:25:12 <pascal`> downeym, we lost connectivity... will be back now
14:25:55 <jmiranda> pascal`, yeah ... did you add that agenda item?
14:26:03 <pascal`> jmiranda, yeah
14:26:09 <jmiranda> pascal`, thanks
14:26:16 <pascal`> jmiranda, I've been seeing some concerning commits
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14:26:30 <pascal`> jmiranda, concerning with regard to breaking backwards compatibility
14:26:42 * Zeshan wonders how many in here are bots in disguise...
14:26:45 <jmiranda> we are breaking backwards compatibility
14:27:06 <jmiranda> pascal`, that will be in the release notes :)
14:27:48 <jmiranda> pascal`, if there's something specific that you would like to see supported, let me know and i'll try to provide a patch for the old code
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14:28:11 <pascal`> jmiranda, just some of the cohort definitions
14:28:38 <jmiranda> pascal`, we made a decision to remove any report/cohort/dataset definition that we weren't 100% comfortable with (in terms of their design)
14:28:42 <pascal`> jmiranda, we could just update them... but how will we know backwards compatibility wont just be broken again later on?
14:28:51 <jmiranda> it won't
14:28:56 <jmiranda> well ...
14:28:59 <jmiranda> to some degree
14:29:06 <pascal`> pascal`, you've been logged
14:29:14 <pascal`> er, jmiranda that is :)
14:29:19 <jmiranda> pascal`, we removed these classes because otherwise they would break the module in the future
14:30:08 <jmiranda> pascal`, (sorry ... they would break any saved serialized object of that class)
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14:30:18 <downeym> hi danielf`
14:30:37 <jmiranda> pascal`, log darius
14:30:55 <jmiranda> pascal`, he made the decision ;)
14:31:07 * bwolfe hides from zeshan so it doesn't realize he is a bot
14:31:46 <wyclif> hey
14:31:59 <pascal`> hi wyclif
14:32:13 * r-friedman spills coffee on his ipad
14:33:26 <upul`> showoff r-friedman
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14:33:41 *** bwolfe sets mode: +v danielf`
14:33:49 <suneeth> hi all
14:33:54 *** bwolfe sets mode: +v wyclif
14:33:56 <pascal`> r-friedman, I'll take that off your hands if you no longer want it (=
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14:34:04 <downeym> hi openmrs_web018
14:34:06 <suneeth> we both are taking the call from the same machine
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14:34:32 <suneeth> whyclif wanted to discuss about note api
14:34:43 <suneeth> can we do after the developer call
14:35:53 <bwolfe> suneeth: you have to spell his name right for him to be notified :-)
14:35:59 <bwolfe> !refer suneeth [tabcomplete]
14:35:59 * OpenMRSBot refers suneeth to "tabcomplete" --- Most IRC clients let you easily write someone's nickname in the channel using tab completion. Just type the first few letters, then <tab>, and voila!
14:36:27 <downeym> robbyoconnor: do you have a link for your demo box?
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14:40:30 <burke> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Messaging_Module
14:42:14 <downeym> is anyone here calling from US area code 978?
14:42:26 <suneeth> hi @bwolfe
14:42:41 <jmiranda> downeym, fyi i just hung up on the call via my cell phone, but i'm still on via skype
14:42:57 <bwolfe> downeym: 978 == boston, MA
14:43:02 <jmiranda> my cell phone is 617 ... 978 is either MA or NY
14:43:03 <suneeth> wanted to clarify about 262 ticket can we do that now or after the developers call
14:43:25 <downeym> suneeth: if we have extra time at the end we could talk about it, or talk about it here in IRC later
14:43:48 <nribeka> when you do "drop database x", mysql don't claim the space right away. the docs says we need to do "optimize table x". but how do we do optimize when the table is not there anymore?
14:43:57 <suneeth> thats fine with me thanks
14:44:00 <nribeka> -- random rant by nribeka --
14:44:06 <bwolfe> nribeka: ha
14:44:22 <bwolfe> its always been known that mysql never gets rid of a table
14:44:43 <nribeka> but we already drop the database, right bwolfe?
14:44:43 <bwolfe> which is why the dev server filled up: brian brought back 1 gig of data every 2-3 months and dropped it in there
14:45:00 <nribeka> so ... any suggestions ben?
14:45:28 <jmiranda> nribeka, apt-get uninstall mysql?
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14:45:32 <danielf`> nribeka, use postgresql
14:45:45 <jmiranda> +1
14:45:47 <bwolfe> nribeka: dropping the database doesn't delete all the data either
14:46:27 <nribeka> i think i should go with jmiranda suggestion
14:46:33 <nribeka> apt-get remove
14:46:37 <nribeka> delete all ibdata
14:46:41 <nribeka> apt-get install
14:47:09 <r-friedman> bwolfe: if you keep writing to another database, will it reclaim the old database's space?
14:47:48 <bwolfe> r-friedman: I don't think so. I think "ibdata" keeps growing and growing
14:48:06 <jmiranda> UI is everyone's weakness
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14:49:02 <nribeka> r-friedman, check my post above
14:49:42 <jmiranda> nribeka, no ... just apt-get remove ... stop there
14:50:05 <carl_jembi> Jembi guys having to sign off -- see you all next week
14:50:09 <carl_jembi> cheers
14:50:14 <nribeka> jmiranda, no need to remove ibdata?
14:50:20 <r-friedman> nribeka: i mean drop database x, keep writing to database y
14:50:20 <nribeka> carl_jembi, cya ...
14:50:39 <rcrichton> Cheers carl_jembi
14:50:57 <rcrichton> Not all Jembi guys are logging off yet though :)
14:51:18 <batkinson> To the topic of messaging: using full feature sets from a messaging system like nuntium or rapidSMS, etc. sounds like it will require a module of their own
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14:54:42 <nribeka> r-friedman, i'm running out of space already just creating two database. so ...
14:55:05 <nribeka> jmiranda, since you not answering, i will do sudo rm -rf /var/lib/mysql now
14:55:15 <jmiranda> :) thanks
14:55:17 <jmiranda> do that
14:55:23 <Zeshan> my email is zeshan@openmrs.org for those interested in messaging module information.
14:55:27 <jkeiper> robbyoconnor: !!!!1
14:55:31 <r-friedman> nribeka: http://sqldbpool.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/how-do-i-reclaim-space-from-the-innodb-ibdata-file/
14:55:32 <jkeiper> robbyoconnor: where's your demo?!
14:55:35 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5Yam> (at sqldbpool.wordpress.com)
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14:55:38 <downeym> hi openmrs_web896
14:55:55 <jmiranda> downeym, i love how these calls have evolved
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14:56:12 <downeym> jmiranda: hopefully we'll keep getting better
14:56:15 <bwolfe> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Road_Map
14:56:22 <jmiranda> downeym, thanks for that
14:56:51 <downeym> bwolfe now speaking
14:56:57 <nribeka> r-friedman, yep, removing the ibdata now
14:57:48 <downeym> robbyoconnor: are you around?
14:57:52 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12772]: logmanager: Fixed not checking that new appender name is already in use <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12772> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12771]: rwandaprimarycare: minor change to back button error page <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12771>
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15:00:16 <downeym> hi openmrs_web213
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15:00:58 <ruwan> planning on 1.7 moving to Spring 3..?
15:01:14 <docpaul> yes, that's on tap
15:02:25 <jmiranda> bueller
15:02:56 <r-friedman> let's discuss moving to .net
15:03:06 <jmiranda> r-friedman, are you on the call?
15:03:07 <ruwan> nope.. thanks
15:03:11 <bwolfe> .net--
15:03:15 <r-friedman> jmiranda: yep
15:03:16 * Zeshan vetoes the .net discussion.
15:03:35 <downeym> .NET will be discussed next april
15:03:37 <downeym> :)
15:03:37 <jmiranda> r-friedman, ok, so you heard the april fool's joke? :)
15:03:37 <ruwan> sorry.. I dont have microphone :(
15:03:59 <r-friedman> jmiranda: before the call started from the agenda
15:04:28 <jmiranda> r-friedman, you added it?
15:04:35 <jmiranda> nice work
15:04:47 <r-friedman> jmiranda: not me but ++ whoever did
15:05:04 <batkinson> I'd like to suggest move to VB.NET, I topeka'd it and it seems like the best option...
15:05:15 <jmiranda> we should topeka any former .net implementers using openmrs to see if there's interest
15:05:50 <umashanthi> @burke: Have you finalized on the Concept Proposal Module project for GSoC?
15:05:57 <jmiranda> batkinson, let's take it back old school ... straight basic
15:06:11 <r-friedman> topeka = ??
15:06:31 <batkinson> ooh... wil it run on my TRS-80
15:06:46 <jmiranda> r-friedman, see www.google.com
15:06:59 <jmiranda> basic`, or ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard
15:07:18 <batkinson> lol... nice... love those dissolves!
15:07:19 <downeym> dev29aug: you're being called :)
15:07:23 <downeym> ruwan:
15:07:26 <jmiranda> sorry ... not basic`, but batkinson
15:07:33 <jmiranda> hypercard is tight
15:08:06 <r-friedman> jmiranda, batkinson: i did, but only kansas comes up early
15:08:06 <batkinson> It is tight, but I only code hypercard when I'm wearing hypercolor ;D
15:08:09 <rcrichton> Cheers all, have to get off the call now
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15:09:15 <jmiranda> r-friedman, click through the logo for an explanation
15:09:48 <downeym> saimanohar: you there?
15:10:41 * downeym says ... if you are on the call, speak up and let us get to know you :)
15:10:57 <jmiranda> a thing of beauty, the mac plus was ... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/Hypercard.png
15:11:03 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5Yb-> (at upload.wikimedia.org)
15:11:16 <downeym> saimanohar ruwan Suneeth dev29aug
15:11:19 <downeym> speak up :)
15:11:30 <downeym> umashanthi you too :)
15:11:39 <ruwan> cool
15:11:41 <downeym> i know you guys are on skype :)
15:11:56 <ruwan> wish I had a microphone!!
15:12:26 <downeym> ahh ok :)
15:12:32 <saimanohar> hi all
15:12:43 <dev29aug> downeym, sorry I was in call from home.
15:12:50 <dev29aug> Now I am here.
15:13:02 <downeym> dev29aug: that's fine ... if you want to introduce yourself a bit after umashanthi , feel free
15:13:05 <Suneeth> hi all
15:13:10 <dev29aug> ok
15:13:16 <ruwan> me too umashanthi
15:15:06 <umashanthi> ruwan: cool :)
15:16:56 <saimanohar> hey we logged out after the agenda was discussed
15:16:58 <jmiranda> hi saimanohar
15:16:58 * downeym reminds you that we can see who is connecting with skype so you can't hide from making introduction :)
15:17:03 <saimanohar> hi
15:17:38 <batkinson> downeym: that statement makes me wonder whether the on-hold musak was your idea ;D
15:17:53 * jmiranda reminds downeym that this kind of big-brother intimidation is not conducive to participation :)
15:18:00 <downeym> hehe
15:18:33 <downeym> actually the music was from pascal`
15:18:41 <r-friedman> singing
15:19:06 <downeym> !introtickets
15:19:06 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "introtickets" --- http://dev.openmrs.org/report/20
15:20:00 <kennymac> downeym: thanks just what i was looking for
15:21:01 <downeym> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Creating_your_OpenMRS_User_Profile
15:21:02 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1q0T> (at openmrs.org)
15:21:47 <nribeka> astelmashenko, you can speak too
15:22:25 <astelmashenko> nribeka: unfortunately I have no microphone right now.
15:22:31 <astelmashenko> yes
15:22:37 <robbyoconnor> downeym: jesus :(
15:22:39 <downeym> welcome astelmashenko :)
15:22:39 <robbyoconnor> yes
15:22:40 <robbyoconnor> sorry
15:22:48 <docpaul> hi andrey!
15:22:48 <downeym> welcome robbyoconnor ;-)
15:22:51 <astelmashenko> hi
15:23:05 <downeym> robbyoconnor: dial in to the call?
15:23:05 <jkeiper> robbyoconnor: join ... now!
15:23:36 <robbyoconnor> okok
15:23:45 <jmiranda> robbyoconnor, you won a free cruise ... call in now!
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15:24:41 <burke> robbyoconnor: wherefore art thou, robby?
15:25:01 <batkinson> next year GSoC project: hypercard integration omod
15:25:38 <nribeka> what is hypercard batkinson
15:26:05 <batkinson> nribeka: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard
15:26:21 <robbyoconnor> http://mybawx.org:83/openmrs
15:26:34 <robbyoconnor> let me set up a user too..
15:27:03 <nribeka> HyperCard is an application program created by Bill Atkinson for Apple Computer, Inc. --> that you batkinson
15:27:26 <batkinson> nribeka: no, just a coincedence...
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15:28:57 <robbyoconnor> username: nribeka
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15:29:06 <robbyoconnor> password: ABcd1234
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15:32:55 <downeym> You can find this under Administration -> Facility Data Module
15:33:57 <luzhuangwei> back again
15:35:45 <downeym> http://breeze.iu.edu/openmrs/
15:36:01 <downeym> everyone go there ^^^^
15:36:14 <r-friedman> java.lang.NoSuchMethodError org.openmrs.module.facilitydata.util.FacilityDataUtil.createMockSchema()Lorg/openmrs/module/facilitydata/model/FacilityDataFormSchema;
15:36:29 <robbyoconnor> r-friedman: yes that bug was fixed -- not locally
15:36:36 <robbyoconnor> I totally forgot that was there!
15:36:45 <downeym> demo is running at http://breeze.iu.edu/openmrs/
15:37:45 <robbyoconnor> lol..
15:37:50 <robbyoconnor> is it done?
15:42:08 <downeym> Ctrl +
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15:50:47 <robbyoconnor> it's stored in the facilitydata_value
15:53:36 <jmiranda> sorry
15:53:49 <robbyoconnor> go ahead
15:54:06 <nribeka> breaking up justin
15:54:14 <jmiranda> docpaul, give me a sec
15:54:17 <jmiranda> i'm calling in
15:54:32 <docpaul> sounds good
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15:57:10 <downeym> jmiranda++
15:57:20 <downeym> "project champion"
15:57:40 <robbyoconnor> Heads up: I'm doing GSoC this year potentially with Sahana-Py
15:58:02 <robbyoconnor> I tried to get this into GSoC
15:58:10 <robbyoconnor> :X
15:58:25 <r-friedman> getting to 90% takes the first 90% of the time, getting to 100% takes the second 90% of the time
15:58:32 <robbyoconnor> yeh
15:59:13 <downeym> "last mile" is the toughest
15:59:42 <burke> r-friedman: what takes up the third 90%?
16:00:04 <r-friedman> figuring out what the first 180% should really have done
16:00:08 <burke> switching from the now-legacy to the next great thing?
16:00:31 <r-friedman> sorry, i'm already beating on something else
16:01:42 <jmiranda> r-friedman, no more truer than with reporting
16:02:30 <bwolfe> jmiranda: isn't reporting hitting its fifth 90% now?
16:02:41 <ruwan> my pleasure... bye
16:02:42 <jmiranda> bwolfe, touche
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16:03:03 <jmiranda> actually, it's really reporting 5.0
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16:03:15 <robbyoconnor> :aLOL
16:03:25 <r-friedman> tks ro
16:03:28 <kennymac> great, learned a lot, thanks peeps
16:03:30 <r-friedman> tks rob
16:03:33 <robbyoconnor> wow
16:03:40 <robbyoconnor> I *SUCK* at public speaking
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16:03:53 <umashanthi> +robbyoconnor: great demo
16:04:32 <jmiranda> bwolfe, reporting has been refactored so many times ... it started out as natalie portman
16:04:37 <jmiranda> and now it looks like heidi montag
16:04:47 <robbyoconnor> umashanthi: thanks
16:05:05 <jmiranda> yeah good job robbyoconnor
16:05:06 <robbyoconnor> jmiranda: LOL
16:05:41 <robbyoconnor> jmiranda: I believe at this point mike wanted input, collect info on what users wanted -- then implement those
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16:05:51 <luzhuangwei> Also a good module:-)
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16:09:32 <robbyoconnor> luzhuangwei: thanks
16:10:00 <jmiranda> robbyoconnor, that sounds good
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16:10:35 <jmiranda> try to push it forward in the community, see what comes out of that
16:11:10 <jmiranda> robbyoconnor, throw together a few screencasts
16:12:01 <robbyoconnor> have you seen my public speaking skills?
16:12:06 <robbyoconnor> LOL
16:12:18 <jmiranda> robbyoconnor, however, realized that they may take longer than you expect -- as i'm finding out -- my brain is not of the "off-the-cuff" variety
16:12:33 <jmiranda> robbyoconnor, use screencasting software with text overlays
16:12:36 <robbyoconnor> bwolfe: i removed the demo url from the wiki
16:12:50 <robbyoconnor> that works LOL
16:13:59 <jmiranda> robbyoconnor, or rehearse a lot
16:14:09 <robbyoconnor> text overlay
16:14:15 <jmiranda> yeah, i like that better
16:14:16 <robbyoconnor> and .NET?!
16:14:18 <robbyoconnor> WHY?!?!?!
16:14:23 <robbyoconnor> grails
16:14:38 * jmiranda is back (gone 01:50:59)
16:14:44 * robbyoconnor threw up a little in his mouth reading that one
16:15:18 * jmiranda is saddened to find out that his presence makes people nauseous
16:16:52 <robbyoconnor> LOL
16:16:53 <robbyoconnor> http://wave.google.com/getwavewave.html
16:16:56 <robbyoconnor> LMFAO
16:16:59 <robbyoconnor> not you!
16:17:07 <robbyoconnor> the .NET thing does though
16:18:42 <raffael> does anyone know why i can't see WEB-INF directory in Package Explorer (Eclipse 3.4.2)? i can reach it only through Navigator view which I dislike like a lot.
16:18:55 <raffael> i've never had this problem before
16:18:58 <raffael> it's just for openmrs
16:19:29 <upul`> raffael, package explorer only shows classes
16:20:01 <raffael> that's new :)
16:20:07 <robbyoconnor> nah it makes sense :P
16:20:15 <raffael> i've always seen all the stuff :P
16:20:16 <robbyoconnor> being it's called *PACKAGE* explorer :P
16:20:24 <robbyoconnor> you weren't looking at package explorer.
16:20:47 <raffael> hehe i know what i am looking at for two years belive me :)
16:21:14 <raffael> besides i see stuff in web directory of openmrs
16:21:26 <raffael> but not WEB-INF
16:21:55 <upul`> may be you should check the filters in top right corner
16:22:21 <upul`> there you can select what not to show i think, i haven't used eclipse for while
16:22:46 <raffael> yes, but there's nothing there selected
16:22:54 <raffael> so i should see everything
16:23:04 <raffael> and in other projects i do see
16:23:17 <jmiranda> raffael, there's also a Project Explorer view
16:24:20 <upul`> i remember like i heard something like this before in openmrs
16:24:24 * robbyoconnor flexes and pets IntelliJ IDEA
16:24:28 <jmiranda> raffael, but yes you're right ... it should show up in package explorer as well
16:24:56 <raffael> yes it's strange
16:24:59 <upul`> raffael, may be check the .project files of openmrs and others may be there's something missing
16:25:16 <jmiranda> raffael, well it's not strange
16:25:24 <raffael> in project explorer is everything fine
16:25:27 <raffael> thanks jmiranda
16:25:37 <jmiranda> raffael, we just don't add it to the Source tab under Project > Properties
16:26:03 <raffael> though here i see a huge list of jars and must scroll a lot ;)
16:26:13 <jmiranda> because our project structure is not exploded war style
16:26:24 <gurbuz> raffael, check if you are using eclipse in Java EE perspective
16:26:48 <gurbuz> there is no package explorer in Java EE persp.
16:26:50 <jmiranda> raffael, in other words, our WEB-INF is generated during the build ... not laid out as-is in the source project
16:27:01 <raffael> gurbuz: I do
16:27:22 <raffael> jmiranda: that's might be the case
16:27:57 <jmiranda> raffael, but there's obviously a WEB-INF directory under web, but we'd need to add it to the .project in order for it to show up
16:28:05 <jmiranda> i'm sure that would be a reasonable request
16:28:43 <raffael> i'll see if it'll work for me
16:29:08 <jmiranda> i just tried to do it in trunk
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16:29:35 <raffael> ok i'll synchronize
16:29:42 * robbyoconnor pets IDEA
16:31:03 <jmiranda> raffael, i didn't commit
16:31:15 <jmiranda> raffael, there's a conflict with the WEB-INF that's included in the Libraries tab
16:31:15 <raffael> hehe I see :)
16:31:22 <jmiranda> but you can try it out
16:31:22 <raffael> i see it too :)
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16:31:47 <jmiranda> remove the WEB-INF in Libraries, add it to Source
16:32:02 <raffael> ok i find it out
16:32:18 <raffael> exactly
16:32:20 <raffael> works great
16:32:37 <raffael> thanks a lot!
16:32:55 <raffael> switching between those views tired me
16:33:51 <raffael> and no errors in project
16:33:59 <raffael> is there a reason why web-inf was in libraries?
16:36:31 <raffael> actually it's enough to get rid of it from libraries
16:38:22 <jmiranda> raffael, not sure why it's in Libraries other than to make sure it gets on the classpath for the compiler and tests
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16:39:01 <raffael> anyway everything seems to work fine
16:39:10 <raffael> tests too
16:39:15 <jmiranda> raffael, add a ticket
16:39:24 <raffael> ok
16:39:31 <jmiranda> we might need to move a lot of the non-build directories to Source
16:40:26 <raffael> there're only 4 more directories in libraries
16:41:28 <jmiranda> raffael, yeah try moving all of those to Source
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16:42:33 <jmiranda> create a new ticket http://dev.openmrs.org/newticket entitled "Fix Eclipse .project to use Source and Libraries appropriately" (or something like that)
16:42:50 <jmiranda> raffael, and create a patch from Eclipse, upload that to the ticket and we'll take a look
16:43:19 <raffael> ok
16:43:52 <raffael> actually libraries are in .classpath
16:44:40 <raffael> not all can be removed
16:44:50 <raffael> hibernate hbm.xml files should stay in classpath
16:44:54 <raffael> as far as i remember
16:45:09 <jmiranda> raffael, and sorry ... it's .classpath, not .project
16:45:12 <raffael> probably the others too\
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16:46:22 <raffael> i'll just suggest removing WEB-INF
16:46:26 <raffael> i'm not sure about the others
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16:46:41 <ricardosbarbosa> why is all this necessary?
16:46:48 <ricardosbarbosa> dont work now?
16:46:50 <jmiranda> ricardosbarbosa, it's not really
16:47:11 <jmiranda> ricardosbarbosa, we should just follow best practices
16:47:29 <ricardosbarbosa> ok nice
16:47:38 <jmiranda> if there's a reason to keep WEB-INF in Libraries then we should keep it, but it doesn't seem to belong there
16:47:38 <ricardosbarbosa> it may be a good idea
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17:10:36 <Shazin> bwolfe: Hi
17:12:54 <Shazin> bwolfe: Ticket #1489
17:13:20 <Shazin> I successfully patched hibernate 3.3.2 GA
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17:37:01 <bwolfe> Shazin: cool! and all tests pass now with that in there?
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17:38:00 <nribeka> !ticket 1489
17:38:00 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: Ticket #1489: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1489
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17:50:33 <downeym> what's up, doc?
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17:55:25 <downeym> hi openmrs_web474
17:55:35 <openmrs_web474> /nick suneeth
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17:55:59 <suneeth> @bwolfe hi
17:56:09 <bwolfe> hi
17:56:31 <suneeth> I read your comment at ticket #262 but the second point was not clear
17:56:33 <suneeth> EncounterServiceTest should have a "sanity check" to make sure that encounter #15 has a datetime that includes an hour/minute/second.
17:57:07 <nribeka> testing !ticket262
17:57:13 <nribeka> !ticket 262
17:57:13 <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: Ticket #262: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/262
17:57:49 <suneeth> i have implemented the first comment
17:58:16 <suneeth> n sql2005 does support day() month() year() methods
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18:08:02 <suneeth> @bwolfe u there
18:08:26 <suneeth> if you could clear point no 2 i can submit my patch again
18:09:15 <bwolfe> suneeth: look at some of the other unit tests. they have a comment about a "sanity check"
18:09:37 <bwolfe> it is basically just a check to make sure that the data is how you expect it
18:09:47 <bwolfe> (that there are zero encounters with a date of x)
18:09:50 <bwolfe> or something like that
18:09:56 <downeym> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanity_testing
18:11:42 <bwolfe> ha, its an actual thing :-)
18:12:05 <bwolfe> ...or did you just go and add that section downeym ?
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18:12:19 <downeym> bwolfe i'm not *that* fast :)
18:12:36 <downeym> i sanity-checked your use of sanity-check
18:14:09 <raffael> hehe
18:14:23 <raffael> i like that ^
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18:17:41 * raffael wonders if a day comes when he can commit to openmrs svn
18:18:15 <downeym> raffael: have you started with any tickets yet?
18:18:25 <raffael> sure i did :P
18:18:31 <downeym> cool ... then you are on the way
18:18:32 <downeym> :)
18:18:42 <raffael> hehe a long one
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18:31:03 <bwolfe> raffael: which ticket did you choose?
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19:01:53 <raffael> bwolfe: actually a couple of them
19:02:02 <raffael> my trac login is raff
19:02:46 <raffael> the one you commented a moment ago too :)
19:02:51 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12779]: reporting: fixed layout of 'run a report' page <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12779> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12778]: rwandaprimarycarepilot. fixing another user.getAttribute <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12778>
19:03:34 <raffael> bwolfe: about fixing .classpath
19:03:58 <raffael> i've checked unit tests before
19:04:04 <raffael> but i'll do it once more time
19:11:51 <downeym> /msg wyclif hey
19:11:53 <raffael> question to English natives? once more time or one more time? is there a difference?
19:11:56 <downeym> hrm.
19:12:10 <downeym> "one more time"
19:12:14 <downeym> or, "once more"
19:12:59 <raffael> hmm it's strange google has 10 bilion hits for "once more time" and only 7 bilion for "one more time"
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19:13:22 <raffael> but once more time sounds strange to me too
19:14:22 <downeym> english is strange :)
19:14:26 <raffael> but i'll trust you downeym :)
19:14:38 <raffael> hehe have you tried polish or german?
19:14:44 <downeym> german :)
19:14:49 <downeym> but english is much more difficult
19:15:11 <raffael> i'm surprised to hear it
19:15:20 <raffael> i'm learning german for 8 years
19:15:26 <raffael> and it's not as good as english
19:15:39 <raffael> and i'm really learning it
19:15:58 <raffael> right now i moved to Berlin
19:16:34 <raffael> and it has helped just a little
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19:33:00 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12780]: reporting: removed link to cohort dashboard from Analysis & Reporting … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12780>
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19:41:19 <downeym> hi openmrs_web048
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19:57:39 <nribeka> bwolfe, localization should go to privilege too :D
19:57:55 <nribeka> is there any ticket to refactor the default privilege to support locale?
19:57:59 <bwolfe> thats more of an admin thing
19:58:08 <bwolfe> the users don't see that much
19:59:13 <nribeka> admin user must know and understand english :)
19:59:30 <nribeka> i'm not in that group
19:59:42 <nribeka> throwing NotSuchUserException on me then
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20:11:42 <JanisB> Guys, maybe someone knows, how often Mike Seaton can be reached using Skype?
20:16:20 <bwolfe> 17.5 seconds out of every minute JanisB
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20:16:58 <JanisB> oh, thanks, so it is better to write an email...
20:18:04 <robbyoconnor> JanisB: email
20:18:25 <robbyoconnor> email and be patient with skype lol
20:19:09 <JanisB> thanks, cap :)
20:21:36 <robbyoconnor> (I worked with him last summer)
20:22:00 <robbyoconnor> years of therapy will cure him of the traumatic experience
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20:23:11 <JanisB> you worked as GSoC participant?
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20:31:52 <raffael> is it ok/possible to apply for more than one gsoc project within openmrs?
20:32:02 <downeym> !bwolfesays
20:32:02 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to
20:32:17 <raffael> hehe thanks :)\
20:32:20 <downeym> :)
20:33:00 <downeym> gives us more to review but it also makes sure we can get the best students
20:33:15 <downeym> if you don't apply, we can't choose you :)
20:33:40 <downeym> speaking of applying ... chopin i need your link ID
20:33:41 <raffael> and for us applicants its easier to choose a couple of them not one
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20:33:59 <chopin> downeym: say what? bigmanjer
20:34:43 <downeym> chopin: This user does not exist.
20:35:15 <chopin> hrm?
20:35:27 <chopin> downeym: not sure what you mean then :-(
20:35:29 <downeym> chopin: http://socghop.appspot.com/user/edit_profile
20:36:35 <chopin> downeym: link id is now jkeiper
20:37:01 <downeym> chopin: ok you've been invited
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20:46:47 <astelmashenko> downeym: how do you know about new proposals to this project? Do you an email about proposal?
20:47:16 <astelmashenko> do you *recieve* an email?
20:47:26 <downeym> astelmashenko: After the application period has closed, we review the proposals on Google's site
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23:06:06 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12783]: reportings: added report header to the view cohort data set dashboard <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12783>