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<judywawira> has anyone encountered this error in eclipse...WARNING: No build properties found
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<mathiaslin> judywawira: it's just a warning, not an error - can you still build?
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<judywawira> @mathiaslin...no i wasnt able to build the module...has a million and one errors on it
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<judywawira> WHAT IS EXACTLY MEANT BY A PROGRAM IN OPENMRS..
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<judywawira> IS IT LIKE PMTCT, ETC
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<judywawira> OR IS IT LIKE DIABETES CARE, MATERNAL CARE OR PSYCHIATRY CARE...
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<njero> judywawira: we do both
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<njero> we have HIV PROGRAM, TB PROGRAM, PMTCT PROGRAM, and a couple others
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<judywawira> OK..
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<pascal`> judywawira, a program is whatever you'd like it to be
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<judywawira> i am working on something for mental health ...so teh program would be PSYCHIATRY i suppose..
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<pascal`> judywawira, the idea is to design the program/workflows in openmrs to match what's happening in the facility
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<judywawira> in this program a patient can be seen as outpatient, inpatient, clinic ..or admit in a rehabilitation center
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<judywawira> so i assume this is the state or teh workflow??
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<judywawira> ??
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<pascal`> well, there are many ways you could model it
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<pascal`> so, you could have a MENTAL HEALTH program
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<judywawira> i am lstening
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<judywawira> yes
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<pascal`> within that program, you could have a TRACKING STATUS workflow
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<pascal`> and possible states within that workflow could be INPATIENT, OUTPATIENT, CLINIC or IN REHAB
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<pascal`> that's just one suggestion, it would be best to model it as closely as possible to the actual functioning of the facility
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<judywawira> ok..
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<judywawira> what abt the states??
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<pascal`> you could also, say, have another workflow in the MENTAL HEALTH prgram called TREATMENT STATUS
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<judywawira> aha
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<pascal`> which could have possible states: ON MEDS, NOT ON MEDS, LOST TO FOLLOWUP
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<pascal`> or whatever else
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<pascal`> so, workflows are just different pieces of information you'd like to keep about patients
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<pascal`> starting to make more sense?
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<judywawira> thanks pascal
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<judywawira> @bwolfe: hey..how are you doing...is it possible to enable and disable buttons on htmlforms....based on like what the uer checks???...like if YES enable some questions and disable others
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<ruwan> http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1401
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<ruwan> never got a feedback on the second patch.. just wondering..
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<chopin> hi ho
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<chopin> good day pascal` ... anything new?
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<chopin> brb
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<pascal`> hey downeym
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<Echidna> chopin_: that didnt really answer the the question =O
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<chopin_> Echidna: hah, woops
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<Shazin> HI
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<mrosas> ok cool, and the code i copied to make it log, is it ok?
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<Shazin> Hi Does OpenMRS Use a Modified Hibernate Jar
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<bwolfe> mrosas: yeah, if you have DEBUG enabled
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<bwolfe> Shazin: yes
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<mrosas> yea i'm debugging my module into eclipse right now
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<Shazin> bwolfe: Cool :)
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<mrosas> bwolfe: when uploading the module with de log4j.xml, i got an exception
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<mrosas> here it is
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<g_khatwani123> i am not able to download billing module completely. receiving an error that "it may locked by external resources, to download it should be unlocked". Please help me to know the solution
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<Shazin> bwolfe: You are correct. I should read more
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<g_khatwani123> @downeym:i am not able to download billing module completely. receiving an error that "it may locked by external resources, to download it should be unlocked". Please help me to know the solution
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<downeym> g_khatwani123: From where are you trying to download? URL?
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<g_khatwani123> through eclipse
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<g_khatwani123> @downeym:through eclipse. i have succesfully downloaded openmrs-trunk but i am recieving an error for billing module
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<downeym> g_khatwani123: as far as I know, Saptarshi is working on that. Suggest you contact him: http://openmrs.org/wiki/User:Sunbiz
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<bwolfe> g_khatwani123: it did that to me last week when I tried to check it out
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<g_khatwani123> @bwolfe:so what u did for it to download. Have u downloaded it now succesfully
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2060 (task closed): Change Browser Title on Patient Dashbboard <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2060#comment:14> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12450]: Changed browser title on patient dashboard to optionally contain patient ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12450> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12449]: ui.springmvc module: adding openmrs jar files to lib-common <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12449>
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<bwolfe> g_khatwani123: as downeym said, you'll have to check with saptarshi
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<bwolfe> they will probably have to reupload their code :-/
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<bwolfe> because I don't know another way around it
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<slin1> downeym: hello
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<g_khatwani123> @downeym:whether any thing else other than billing module and openmrs-trunk to be downloaded to work on billing module.
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<g_khatwani123> @downeym:whether any thing else other than billing module and openmrs-trunk to be downloaded to work on billing module.
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<downeym> g_khatwani123: You need to check with Saptarshi on that, that is his project and I don't know much about it. http://openmrs.org/wiki/User:Sunbiz
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<g_khatwani123> @downeym:ok thanks
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<downeym> chopin_: nice of you to volunteer
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<chopin_> s/on/up
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<chopin_> and it would be nice to have one for modules
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<g_khatwani123> @downeym: u toldme contact Sunbiz but he does not seems to be available currently on irc list of openmrs. so any other contacts?
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<chopin> anyone joining us for code review today: skype voice call to freeconferencing and enter code 305801
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<chopin> ;-)
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<jmiranda> chopin, pointing is rude
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<chopin> i know you're not expected on the call, no worries
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<jmiranda> no, unfortunately i have a demo in an hour
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<chopin> np, have phun
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<jmiranda> chopin, yeah ... i am looking forward to meeting you guys
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<jmiranda> the new guys, i mean
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<chopin> not sure why sy and wyclif don't chill in here
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<jmiranda> would rather just go out and get beers with you guys, watch the ncaa tournament ... and let the old guys do the heavy lifting / roadmap stuff
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<njero> hey jmiranda: have a quick voided/retired question
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<jmiranda> njero, sure ... what's up?
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<njero> Suppose you had an obs with value_coded = 12345, but then you retired concept 12345. Next time you pull that obs... what should happen... should it find its concept or not?
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<njero> hey bwolfe you might want in on this question... so I will repeat
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<njero> Suppose you had an obs with value_coded = 12345, but then you retired concept 12345. Next time you pull that obs... what should happen... should it find its concept or not?
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<bwolfe> I say yes
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<njero> there are a ton of situations like this... when something gets voided/retired without cascading to everything else... but there are really two broad categories: things like encounter -> obs where an obs might get voided without affecting the encounter, and things like obs -> encounter where it has the specific encounter_id inside it so you would expect that to always resolve even if the encounter (and possibly the obs) are voi
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<njero> ded
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<njero> the categories are has_many, and belongs_to...
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<njero> or parent / child
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<njero> The rule I am thinking: the child should always find its parent regardless of retired/voided. The parent should not find voided children by default.
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<njero> is that sane?
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<jmiranda> njero, sorry (just started a demo) ... i'll answer in a few minutes
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<njero> np
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<njero> bwolfe: ?
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<bwolfe> njero: that is sane
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<njero> cool
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<bwolfe> njero: but what kind of relationship are you considering obs --> concept (via valueCoded)
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<njero> there are tons of these kind of quesitons...
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<njero> the area that kicked it off for me was actually order <=> obs
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<njero> obs has order_id, order has obs_id
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<njero> it is easy to void one and not the other on accident... but then what do you do
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<njero> I think you should still get to the order/obs by default... even though you may be accessing something that was voided
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<njero> obs concept is another big one... or obs => value_coded_name_id ...
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<njero> OpenMRSBot: you are supposed to say hey to downeym
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<OpenMRSBot> njero: Error: "you" is not a valid command.
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<njero> OpenMRSBot: neither is you.
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<downeym> lol
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<downeym> OpenMRSBot--
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<njero> serious
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<njero> :)
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<bwolfe> njero: ok, so here is model:
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<bwolfe> concept actually gets retired, not voided. voided and retired mean different things
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<bwolfe> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Deleting_Data_in_OpenMRS:_Void_vs._Retire_vs._Purge
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5Egm> (at openmrs.org)
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<bwolfe> a void means that it was never valid. a retire means that it isn't valid anymore
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<bwolfe> so an obs can still reference a retired concept and can still see it if you pull up the obs
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<bwolfe> an obs should not see/reference a voided order. and a voided order should not see a voided obs
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<njero> hmmm
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<njero> that makes sense
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<njero> so in the event of the obs/order thing... the reference should die by defualt?
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<njero> I think my rule still applies, and that it just coincidentally works out for the voided/retired paradigm
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<bwolfe> njero: I don't know that you delete obs.order_id if you void the order, but you should just not display it.
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<njero> What if the obs itself is voided?
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<bwolfe> njero: you mean if both the obs and order are voided and are referencing each other? thats the ideal world. :-)
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<njero> my point being that it is crazy logic to check the local voided flag before checking the remote
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<bwolfe> I'm not following
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<njero> this is just a confusing area to have sane defaults
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<njero> well, if you are viewing "deleted" data and both obs and order are voided... you want to see them and for them to see each other
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<njero> however, you probably also want to see the stuff that wasn't deleted...
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<njero> it is weird
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<njero> I am confusing myself
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<njero> can't you just tell me these are edge cases and /kickban me? :)
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<bwolfe> :-D
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<njero> lol
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<njero> http://skitch.com/jeffrafter/n4nmi/njero-openmrs-nt-welcome-to-the-openmrs-co
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5EhI> (at skitch.com)
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<bwolfe> :-D
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<njero> bwolfe: I think I am going with my rule... it has problems but I really do think / hope they are edge cases
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<bwolfe> njero: a user should never be able to view a voided (aka deleted) piece of data, so really that situation you're referring to should never happen
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<njero> hmm, they can in ours... maybe thats a problem
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<njero> data managers can unvoid things
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<bwolfe> a voided foreign object should not be shown regardless of whether the local object is voided.......but you don't have to worry about that because you will never be viewing a local voided object! :-)
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<bwolfe> yes, you can "see" the object once you unvoid it
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<njero> okay
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<njero> I can try that too
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<njero> we'll see what goes crazy :)
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<njero> bwolfe: why do concept_names get voided by concepts get retired?
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<bwolfe> an excellent question
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