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| 02:47:58 | <downeym> hey upul` |
| 02:48:08 | <upul`> hey downeym |
| 03:04:55 | <njero> hey downeymbot |
| 03:05:46 | <upul`> kick him downeym |
| 03:05:55 | <downeym> lol |
| 03:06:02 | <njero> heh |
| 03:06:03 | <downeym> who? |
| 03:06:09 | <downeym> njero? nah, too much work |
| 03:06:10 | <upul`> Echidna, |
| 03:06:18 | <downeym> why? |
| 03:06:42 | <upul`> because njero said downeymbot |
| 03:07:00 | <downeym> ... |
| 03:07:13 | <downeym> kick Echidna because member:njero said downeymbot? |
| 03:07:22 | <njero> it makes sense.. |
| 03:07:26 | <njero> :D |
| 03:07:29 | <downeym> haha |
| 03:07:38 | <downeym> i will kick him tomorrow |
| 03:07:49 | <njero> hey, you guys care to give opinions on this: http://skitch.com/jeffrafter/n235e/patients-treatment |
| 03:07:52 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5-Xp> (at skitch.com) |
| 03:08:22 | <downeym> any context? |
| 03:08:44 | <njero> This is the treatment screen on for the touchscreen openmrs (mateme) system used in Neno |
| 03:08:50 | <downeym> overall i like the design, but I would make the (x) only appear on hover |
| 03:08:58 | <downeym> is distracting otherwise :) |
| 03:09:06 | <downeym> oh wait |
| 03:09:07 | <njero> good idea, except on a touchscreen, there is no hover :) |
| 03:09:10 | <downeym> yes |
| 03:09:13 | <downeym> :D |
| 03:09:37 | <njero> the X is for voiding |
| 03:09:37 | <downeym> tell me about the barcode |
| 03:10:06 | <njero> You can scan a pill bottle with a barcode on it (or a barcode chart at the pharmacists desk) and it will auto-dispense |
| 03:10:44 | <downeym> so i would scan the barcode on the screen? |
| 03:10:49 | <njero> basically the barcodes are drug_inventory_id-quantity... so 3455-30 for Paracetamol-30 |
| 03:10:57 | <njero> you wouldn't |
| 03:11:17 | <njero> it is just there to indicate that this screen takes a barcode |
| 03:11:22 | <downeym> oh, i see |
| 03:11:23 | <njero> I didn't know if it was good |
| 03:11:37 | <downeym> maybe some words would be better |
| 03:12:26 | <downeym> something like "Scan Barcode to dispense" |
| 03:12:38 | <njero> YEah... it originally said that |
| 03:12:39 | <njero> :) |
| 03:12:44 | <njero> I went back and forth |
| 03:12:46 | <downeym> or maybe just a small barcode icon with the words |
| 03:12:53 | <downeym> IIII Scan barcode to dispense |
| 03:12:58 | <downeym> something like that ^^^ :) |
| 03:13:03 | <njero> these are all great suggestions, I appreciate it |
| 03:13:10 | <downeym> |||||| Scan barcode to dispense |
| 03:13:31 | <downeym> it would easily catch user's attention like the barcode, but would be smaller image and the words would make it 100% clear |
| 03:13:34 | <downeym> or 99% clear :D |
| 03:13:40 | <njero> heh |
| 03:13:46 | <downeym> i would also move the ( x ) to the right side since it must stay visible |
| 03:14:02 | <downeym> and maybe number the rows? |
| 03:14:26 | <njero> you don't think numbering would get confusing? There are a lot of numbers on this screen |
| 03:14:47 | <downeym> yeah i am debating that |
| 03:14:59 | <upul`> usually how large is the real screen? |
| 03:15:05 | <downeym> and perhaps the historical treatment is long |
| 03:15:17 | <njero> upul`: 800x600 |
| 03:15:29 | <njero> it is approximately 10 inches |
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| 03:15:51 | <downeym> hi crazee |
| 03:16:50 | <downeym> njero: also i'd make sure the scroll bar is large enough for a finger :) but probably this is just a limitation of your model |
| 03:17:07 | <njero> downeym: yeah, that is just my dev firefox |
| 03:17:16 | <downeym> maybe not even a scroll bar but up and down arrows [ ^ ] |
| 03:17:19 | <njero> the real ones require a profile hack |
| 03:17:23 | <njero> right |
| 03:17:31 | <downeym> too small for scroll bar |
| 03:19:00 | <downeym> njero: the only reason i thought about the numbering is because it seems maybe easy to get lost in the historical treatments |
| 03:19:23 | <downeym> njero: and even more true if there is no easy-to-see idea of where you are in the list like a scroll bar affords |
| 03:20:24 | <downeym> otherwise ... i think the scale and shape and everything is great |
| 03:20:38 | <downeym> maybe give the buttons a shadow? |
| 03:20:43 | <downeym> or bevel |
| 03:25:56 | <crazee> hey downeym |
| 03:26:04 | <downeym> hi |
| 03:28:36 | * downeym wonders if crazee & njero are working together |
| 03:28:59 | <crazee> Instead of numbers for historical treatments it might be more useful to provide the date from treatment. |
| 03:29:24 | <downeym> agreed - perhaps in a smaller or different font |
| 03:30:01 | <njero> sorry, negotiating a settlement between a 4 and 5 year old |
| 03:30:18 | <downeym> ha |
| 03:30:26 | <downeym> is that possible? |
| 03:30:37 | <njero> downeym: the no shadow on the button is intentional... it is because of the screen |
| 03:30:49 | <njero> in general the buttons appear much more rounded |
| 03:31:17 | <njero> yeah, both dates and numbers are useful.. but there is just not much room |
| 03:31:26 | <downeym> njero: ok, as long as they are somewhat indicative of "button-ness" :) |
| 03:31:34 | <njero> yeah... |
| 03:31:42 | <njero> that comment has definitely been made before |
| 03:31:44 | <downeym> never enough room :) |
| 03:31:48 | <njero> but on the screen it is rough |
| 03:32:34 | <crazee> I wish njero and I got to work together more... |
| 03:32:36 | <downeym> could you try some A/B testing with number/date or not, on the screen itself with potential users? |
| 03:32:46 | <downeym> just some mock-ups |
| 03:33:13 | <njero> agreed |
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| 08:01:52 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Can't add Patients <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=574#p2135> |
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| 12:06:30 | <pascal`> hey bwolfe |
| 12:09:14 | <bwolfe> hi pascal` |
| 12:09:54 | <pascal`> up early these days bwolfe, I wonder why that could be ;) |
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| 12:59:36 | <downeym> hello, world |
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| 13:39:27 | <bwolfe> downeym: looks like you're not getting much love this morning |
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| 13:46:19 | <mrosas> hello |
| 13:47:29 | <pascal`> hi downeym |
| 13:47:36 | <pascal`> hi mrosas |
| 13:47:38 | <downeym> afternoon :) |
| 13:49:49 | <mrosas> got some doubts about form entry |
| 13:50:02 | <chopin> blasphemy! |
| 13:50:44 | <mrosas> when i got into add encounter, i've got to select patient, provider, location, enocunter date, encounter type, and form |
| 13:50:53 | <mrosas> by default i got a basic form to select |
| 13:51:25 | <mrosas> what is that? i mean, what is it useful for? cause when i add an encounter, then i add some observations about it, and that's all i need i think |
| 13:51:38 | <mrosas> i don't understand the uses of the form selection |
| 13:52:04 | * chopin points at bwolfe |
| 13:53:00 | <bwolfe> mrosas: forms are meant to look like paper forms |
| 13:53:08 | <bwolfe> mrosas: so formentry implements inputting data by forms |
| 13:53:30 | <bwolfe> mrosas: you /could/ always do Manage Encounter --> Add Encounter, then Add Observations over and over again |
| 13:53:34 | <bwolfe> but thats slow and not user friendly |
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| 14:03:05 | <mrosas> When adding new encounter and abservations from a patient, is there a way to avoid manage encounter --> add encounter, then add observations, by selecting patient and going directly to form entry? |
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| 14:03:54 | <bwolfe> mrosas: yep |
| 14:04:13 | <bwolfe> mrosas: using the Formentry Module, Html Form Entry Module, or the XForms Module |
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| 14:04:46 | <bwolfe> each of those lets you paint/design a form and the end user sees that easier way to fill out the form |
| 14:05:05 | <bwolfe> each of those modules has a wiki page that tells you how to use it to design forms |
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| 14:05:27 | <downeym> hi ajitlodhi |
| 14:06:04 | <mrosas> ok so i download one of them and should not use the "old" way any more, right? |
| 14:06:08 | <ajitlodhi> hi.. |
| 14:07:51 | <bwolfe> mrosas: the "old" way is just meant as a manual way of updating encounters usually |
| 14:08:36 | <mrosas> ok cool, i'll try the new ones, thanks a lot |
| 14:11:10 | <bwolfe> mrosas: have you been using openmrs in production using Manage Encounters, or just went playing around with it on a dev box? |
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| 14:14:49 | <mrosas> just went playing for now |
| 14:16:24 | <mrosas> and it seemed a bit strange that way of adding new medical events, so i asked you about it |
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| 14:19:43 | <bwolfe> mrosas: ah, good. an excellent second step! |
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| 14:20:18 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2121 (task closed): "Duplicate" function for form definitions failed <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2121#comment:6> |
| 14:20:19 | <nribeka> asking bwolfe is always an excellent step :) |
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| 14:23:53 | <mrosas> yes nribeka, no doubt about it ;) |
| 14:25:14 | <bwolfe> hmm, I don't like where this is heading |
| 14:25:29 | <bwolfe> how about "asking in irc is always an excellent step :)" ? |
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| 14:29:32 | <chopin> bwolfe: you are receiving a phone call |
| 14:29:37 | <chopin> (first one in a while!) |
| 14:31:21 | <bwolfe> heh |
| 14:31:49 | <nribeka> bwolfe the man ... the legend :D |
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| 14:40:09 | * pascal` is hot : http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/68816.html |
| 14:40:15 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5-iQ> (at www.wunderground.com) |
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| 14:43:17 | <upul`> me too |
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| 14:44:42 | <pascal`> you're 7 degrees cooler than me upul` :) |
| 14:45:43 | <nribeka> pascal`, it is hot there ... |
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| 14:46:38 | <upul`> 79% humidity |
| 14:48:03 | <pascal`> wow upul`, that's bad |
| 14:50:42 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12317]: integration of spring 3.0 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12317> |
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| 15:15:08 | <sunbiz> hey all |
| 15:16:52 | <sunbiz> does anybody know how to register a user in OpenMRS to a specified location ?? |
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| 15:17:17 | <downeym> hi sanyam |
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| 15:23:36 | <nribeka> i don't think you can do that sunbiz |
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| 15:25:36 | <sunbiz> yea... I couldnt figure it out as well |
| 15:25:48 | <sunbiz> nribeka: we should have that... because Person has a location |
| 15:26:24 | <sunbiz> nribeka: so... how do u say that a user is a registration clerk at department A ?? |
| 15:27:22 | <nribeka> i'm not so sure about this sunbiz, but ... |
| 15:28:56 | <nribeka> i thought we have that page to edit the user |
| 15:29:33 | <nribeka> yeah, it's in 1.5 |
| 15:29:38 | <nribeka> but not in 1.6 sunbiz |
| 15:30:03 | <nribeka> probably because the person/user/patient refactoring is not done yet |
| 15:31:07 | <nribeka> oops ... sorry |
| 15:31:29 | <nribeka> it's not a location. it's person attributes |
| 15:31:42 | <sunbiz> yes... person attributes |
| 15:31:49 | <sunbiz> no location |
| 15:33:16 | <nribeka> probably you need to bring this to the dev list? i'm pretty sure there must be a reason behind this :) |
| 15:33:43 | <sunbiz> yea... |
| 15:33:58 | <sunbiz> nribeka: do u also know how a patient can view only their own records |
| 15:34:02 | <sunbiz> and not of other patients |
| 15:34:20 | <sunbiz> i.e. user to record mapping ?? |
| 15:35:04 | <nribeka> i think the way it is right now is per object privilege sunbiz |
| 15:35:29 | <nribeka> or i might not aware of such feature if it's exists |
| 15:35:35 | <sunbiz> hhmmm.. so that means its not really possible ATM |
| 15:35:45 | <nribeka> so, a person can view obs or patient or encounter |
| 15:35:59 | <nribeka> not obs with certain id or patient with certain id |
| 15:36:05 | <sunbiz> yea... but not selected ids |
| 15:36:06 | <nribeka> it's an interesting feature actually |
| 15:36:56 | <sunbiz> a good GSoC project ??? |
| 15:37:08 | <nribeka> haha ... :) |
| 15:37:08 | <sunbiz> or too complex for someone new ?? |
| 15:37:21 | <nribeka> hm not necessary complext :) |
| 15:37:27 | <nribeka> complex |
| 15:37:43 | <nribeka> kinda actually lol |
| 15:39:05 | <sunbiz> yea... nevermind... I'll fire an email to the dev list |
| 15:39:21 | <nribeka> try it sunbiz. it |
| 15:40:18 | <sunbiz> and probably have one of my team start on it |
| 15:40:32 | <nribeka> ah nice ... |
| 15:41:09 | <nribeka> probably new service with new type of privileges and probably some custom patient viewing page :) |
| 15:44:31 | <sunbiz> yea |
| 15:45:57 | <nribeka> cool |
| 15:54:47 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1977 (defect closed): Patient Age Should stop increasing when the patient dies <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1977#comment:11> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2128 (task created): PersonName.getFullName() should use the configured nameLayout <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2128> |
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| 16:10:08 | * chopin just saw a neat phpMyAdmin error: "MySQL has gone away" |
| 16:24:51 | <njero> chopin: thats a common error :) |
| 16:25:27 | <njero> I think it is mysql specific not phpMyAdmin specific |
| 16:25:38 | <njero> but, yeah it is one of my favorites too |
| 16:27:32 | <downeym> *poof* |
| 16:31:39 | <chopin> njero: yeah, super-informative |
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| 17:15:42 | * downeym is living in the past |
| 17:22:21 | <pascal`> that's right downeym, where I live it's 7:22pm :) |
| 17:22:35 | <downeym> haha, maybe that's my problem |
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| 17:22:39 | <downeym> hi Mkop1 |
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| 17:27:37 | <Mkop1> wazzup mike |
| 17:27:45 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2130 (enhancement created): Reprocess all matching errors <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2130> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2129 (enhancement created): ID Cards module: Reprint Id Cards form needs improved error handling, patient selection <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2129> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12318]: logmanager: added "Export XML" option to logviewer <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12318> |
| 17:27:50 | <Mkop1> what's this about a radio show? |
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| 17:59:01 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12320]: ncd: updated the data source report Velocity template to tolerate null ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12320> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12319]: ncd: Fix for the Provider not returning null if no sending location was ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12319> |
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| 18:04:49 | <mrosas> hello hello |
| 18:07:48 | <chopin> anyone joining the Code Review in progress, check the meeting agenda / minutes for call in information |
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| 18:16:43 | <pascal`> hi mrosas |
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| 18:31:07 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2131 (task created): I managed to start OpenMRS without the logic module running <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2131> |
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| 18:32:21 | <mrosas> i'm having trouble with XForms |
| 18:32:40 | <mrosas> i modify a form added before with the XForm Designer |
| 18:33:14 | <mrosas> but when i try to add an encounter of a patient fro the XForm tab |
| 18:33:16 | <mrosas> i select that form and click add |
| 18:33:43 | <mrosas> but it show |
| 18:34:07 | <mrosas> no form layout found |
| 18:34:18 | <mrosas> and then save it ok |
| 18:34:26 | <mrosas> what is that i'm doing wrong? |
| 18:35:09 | <mrosas> please design the form and save it first |
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| 20:36:28 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12322]: ncd: Removing the rest of the warnings. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12322> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12321]: ncd: Fixes for errors stemming from NlpDiscreteAnalyzer, ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12321> |
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| 21:07:19 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2132 (task created): Fix the Unit Tests to use 'flushSession' <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2132> |
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| 21:09:24 | <downeym> hi yuvrajtomar1 |
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| 21:11:52 | <yuvrajtomar1> hi downeym |
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| 22:11:25 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Problem after deploying OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=561#p2138> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: HIV management with OpenMRS (Forms, Business User Training, <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=560#p2137> |
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| 23:47:31 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12323]: visitscheduler: fixing overquota form validation. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12323> |