IRC Chat : 2010-02-25 - OpenMRS

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01:34:48 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Modules: Spring MVC UI Framework 0.1 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <https://dev.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=ui.springmvc&version=&0.1>
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02:49:10 <downeym> hi chopin + upul`
02:49:18 <chopin> sup downeym
02:49:27 <upul`> hi
02:49:35 * chopin got one girl to bed, the other in an exersaucer
02:49:38 <downeym> Looking into http://twitter.com/dpnelsonl/status/9606164776
02:49:54 <downeym> What's an exersaucer?
02:50:02 <chopin> hmm
02:50:47 <chopin> downeym: http://www.amazon.com/Graco-Baby-Einstein-Discover-Entertainer/dp/B0002U1SFE
02:50:51 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/55LC> (at www.amazon.com)
02:50:58 <downeym> Oh, right ...
02:51:02 <chopin> except second hand :-)
02:51:20 <downeym> Open source baby
02:51:25 <chopin> exactly
02:51:32 <chopin> btw, good call on lunch!
02:51:44 <chopin> nothing like chicken and mashed potatoes on a foccacia bun
02:51:49 * chopin <3'd it
02:51:58 <downeym> Not exactly pizza, but can't complain about the price. That was from Creation Cafe BTW
02:52:14 <chopin> yea, recognized the chips
02:52:35 <chopin> argh, daughter #2 is whiny! /me disappears
02:52:54 * downeym invites all OpenMRS-ers in Indianapolis to our weekly Work In Progress lunch talks on Wednesdays. Free lunch! :)
02:57:05 <robbyoconnor> =/
02:57:41 <downeym> robby - road trip time!
03:01:41 <robbyoconnor> downeym: not any time soon
03:01:56 <robbyoconnor> *LOVE TO* at some point
03:02:17 <downeym> let us know!
03:03:55 <upul`> show him the lunch menu
03:04:10 <downeym> Today it was from here: http://indycanal.com/
03:08:38 <robbyoconnor> pay my way :P
03:08:44 <robbyoconnor> :P
03:08:57 <downeym> hey i'm a poor student, remember :)
03:09:05 <robbyoconnor> heh so am I :P
03:09:14 <robbyoconnor> i'm living off last summer's soc monies :P
03:09:34 <robbyoconnor> and praying to *GOD* i get in this summer
03:09:51 <robbyoconnor> otherwise i will be one *POOR* man this summer w/ nothing to do :(
03:11:10 * downeym reminds everyone about the developer meeting tomorrow at 10:00 AM Eastern: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
03:11:13 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/2Fzj> (at openmrs.org)
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03:39:38 <chopin> downeym: so ... think "clunky"
03:39:45 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12200]: reporting: Initial commit of basic UI for fixing broken serialized … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12200>
03:39:47 <chopin> ~= ui-related?
03:40:05 <downeym> That's my thought. I replied and asked for more feedback
03:40:17 <chopin> good
03:40:34 <chopin> fortunately, 2.0 should have opportunity for lots of freedom
03:40:50 <chopin> s/freedom/flexibility, or tweaks
03:41:54 * downeym points to http://openmrs.org/wiki/Ui.springmvc_module
03:42:02 <downeym> among other thigns
03:43:28 <chopin> downeym: we talked about that at length in the design mtg today. good points were made. :-)
03:43:38 <downeym> Great!
03:43:46 <chopin> htmlwidgets = the way to go, too
03:46:36 <downeym> +1 but I'd like to see UI guidelines for them
03:47:42 <downeym> Maybe not quite elaborate as http://developer.apple.com/Mac/library/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/XHIGIntro/XHIGIntro.html ... but still helpful to devs & users alike
03:47:44 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/55NF> (at developer.apple.com)
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12:08:40 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12201]: updated LocationDTO Krishnaja <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12201>
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13:13:36 <Twizzler> anyone know what time downeym usually gets in?
13:13:46 <chopin> nevar!
13:13:53 <chopin> Twizzler: um, 8-ish?
13:14:06 <Twizzler> it is 8 ish lol
13:14:07 <chopin> Twizzler: btw, I live in Monrovia (for now)
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13:14:21 <chopin> I can sense his pending ...
13:14:23 <chopin> oh, there he is
13:14:33 <Twizzler> sweet i'm in mooresville, just behind the hospital, for now
13:14:46 <downeym> my digital ears were burning
13:16:40 <Twizzler> ?
13:16:53 <Twizzler> oops
13:17:41 <downeym> !
13:18:18 <Twizzler> yeah i was gimply typing in 1 window not sure how all but the ? whent where i intended it
13:21:02 <Echidna> chopin: liberia?
13:25:10 <chopin> Echidna: Indiana ;-)
13:26:18 <Echidna> o lol
13:27:31 <downeym> Population 628: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monrovia,_Indiana
13:27:39 <Echidna> eh
13:27:46 <Echidna> i live in a village
13:27:52 <Echidna> and it has 3.5k
13:28:04 <downeym> That's a big village :)
13:28:09 <Echidna> well yea
13:28:13 <chopin> i lived in a "village" w/ 10k ... Sewickley Village in PA.
13:28:19 <Echidna> but the average village is >1k here usually
13:28:48 <Echidna> but it'S officially part of the city
13:28:58 <Echidna> which is about 130k total
13:29:00 <chopin> whoa, i was way off ... 4k http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewickley,_Pennsylvania
13:29:04 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/55Yn> (at en.wikipedia.org)
13:30:10 <chopin> (I was also an extra for Houseguest http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houseguest)
13:30:52 <Echidna> woah! can i have your autograph?!
13:31:26 <chopin> NO! ;-) ... Phil Hartman almost ran over my feet coming back from lunch, threw some quip out the window "watch yourself!"
13:31:39 <chopin> that was, of course, before his wife killed him :'-(
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13:48:28 <Echidna> karma
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13:53:29 <downeym> hey win
13:53:34 <nribeka> yo ...
13:53:37 <downeym> welcome back to US
13:53:45 <nribeka> thanks downeym
13:54:00 <nribeka> bad weather here ...
13:54:52 <downeym> it's nice where I am
13:55:05 <nribeka> lol
13:55:20 <nribeka> who is Twizzler downeym? he seems to be from IN
13:55:36 <downeym> Ask him yourself :-P
13:58:34 <nribeka> hi pascal` danielf and tinashe
13:58:44 <pascal`> hey nribeka
13:58:55 <danielf> hey nribeka
13:59:36 <pascal`> jinx
13:59:43 <danielf> jinx
14:00:01 <pascal`> that's #1.
14:00:09 <danielf> that's #1.
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14:00:43 <downeym> that's #1.
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14:01:12 <danielf> hehe
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14:14:56 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12202]: chica * added a fix for a lazy initialization exception <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12202>
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14:41:22 * downeym reminds you about our weekly developer meeting starting in 20 minutes: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers_Conference_Call
14:41:23 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/2Fzj> (at openmrs.org)
14:47:00 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Arabic language implementation of OpenMRS? <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=571#p2101>
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15:08:34 <pascal`> lol barry white :)
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15:19:03 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12203]: idgen: Change IdentifierSource from an interface to an abstract class in … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12203> || OpenMRS Modules: ID Generation 1.4.0.3 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <https://dev.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=idgen&version=&1.4.0.3>
15:19:13 <pascal`> which ticket?
15:21:54 <downeym> 2086
15:22:04 <downeym> sorry just saw your question :)
15:22:39 <danielf> !ticket 2086
15:22:39 <OpenMRSBot> danielf: Ticket #2086: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2086
15:23:00 <pascal`> yeah it's cool, darius mentioned the number on the call
15:23:18 <downeym> Also updating at http://openmrs.org/wiki/2010-02-25_Developers_Conference_Call
15:23:23 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/55c5> (at openmrs.org)
15:24:18 <pascal`> yeah saw, thanks downeym
15:31:08 <pascal`> someone is using windows
15:31:13 <pascal`> tsk tsk
15:31:59 <downeym> Windows?
15:32:06 <pascal`> yeah
15:32:13 <zeshan> Here's the link: http://docs.google.com/View?id=d9w73t4_227ftqskzv2
15:32:15 <pascal`> there
15:32:16 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/55cL> (at docs.google.com)
15:32:20 <pascal`> didn't you hear that alert sound?
15:32:42 <chopin> sounds like windows95
15:32:45 <downeym> Oh ... that's not Windows, it's the conference line :)
15:33:38 <zeshan> http://smslib.org/doc/compatibility/
15:34:09 <pascal`> there are diffent sounds, I'm pretty sure the one is Windoze
15:34:15 <pascal`> anyway... I guess it's not important :)
15:34:52 <pascal`> Linus approves: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/10/linus-torvalds-gives-windows-7-a-big-thumbs-up.jpg
15:34:54 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/4RkS> (at www.blogcdn.com)
15:39:51 <zeshan> http://code.google.com/p/omhe/
15:40:42 <pascal`> omg
15:52:16 <downeym> ??
15:54:52 <downeym> Is anyone here calling in with a cell phone number from Maine?
15:55:57 <chopin> !ticket 1615
15:55:57 <OpenMRSBot> chopin: Ticket #1615: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1615
15:56:07 <chopin> we're talking about this now ^^
16:01:02 <danielf> carl and i were dropped from the call, but we have to leave now anyway, sorry to leave the dev call half way through
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16:02:16 <downeym> Thanks for joining ... we'll have the audio up if you want to listen to the rest, later.
16:03:14 <pascal`> he's gone :)
16:03:28 <pascal`> I'll let him know tomorrow if something else comes up that concerns us
16:07:19 <chopin> zeshan: those codes from omhe look a lot like what i saw docs typing into notes in the VA system (shorthand); makes sense to me
16:08:44 <zeshan> They are pretty similar, and are similar to ones I've seen at other projects. Just let me know which you need because we won't be implementing them all.
16:09:27 <chopin> zeshan: fm and ffm come to mind ;-)
16:10:01 <zeshan> @chopin: are you going to do body fat measurements?
16:10:11 <chopin> just my own
16:10:19 <zeshan> Ahhh.
16:10:28 <zeshan> And you really want to txt that over air? :)
16:10:34 <chopin> ffm350l
16:10:44 <zeshan> We can implement the java-twitter API and you can just tweet your FFMs in.
16:10:49 <chopin> yay
16:11:06 <Echidna> whats ffm
16:11:33 <zeshan> Free Fat Mass, or a measurement of a human being's free fat in kilograms.
16:12:17 <chopin> zeshan: will you be implementing SMS security or is that built-in to the ilbs?
16:12:26 <chopin> not sure how that would work
16:12:30 <zeshan> we've been thinking about it.
16:12:38 <zeshan> What we have so far is this:
16:13:04 <zeshan> we're going to implement security levels - if you're a module and want to send a message, you can either default to a security level or specify a security level.
16:13:26 <zeshan> If it's a high security level, OASYS will ask the end user for their pin before delivering their message.
16:13:47 <zeshan> We probably can't do anything like SMS message encryption because we can't guarantee what capabilities our users' devices will have.
16:14:23 <Echidna> zeshan: how does it work
16:14:29 <chopin> true ... no real way to encode, but does the lib do sending number checking for sessions, etc?
16:14:33 <Echidna> and what's "free" fat?
16:14:48 <chopin> Echidna: not really sure what it is, but i'm -covered- in it
16:15:04 * chopin ist sehr grosse.
16:15:15 <zeshan> yes, that'll be the first 'security level' - we'll keep a register of sending addresses (@twitter accounts, mobile numbers, email addresses, etc)
16:15:34 <chopin> cool ... so, session-based? timeouts?
16:15:37 <zeshan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage
16:15:40 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/2N:Y> (at en.wikipedia.org)
16:15:48 <nribeka> hi chopin
16:15:49 <nribeka> :D
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16:15:55 <jkeiper> sup njero
16:15:58 <jkeiper> and nribeka
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16:16:04 <zeshan> Not session based - we can't guarantee when an SMS message will be delivered. In some countries, SMS messages are delivered the next day.
16:16:05 <Echidna> chopin: being a computer nerd does that to you =P
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16:16:27 <zeshan> Each message will have a message header (two or three chars) that will designate how OASYS should respond to the message.
16:16:38 <chopin> zeshan: oh, cool
16:16:47 <chopin> winwinmoron: d'oh!
16:17:05 <winwinmoron> lol
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16:17:20 <Echidna> my scales have some primitive body fat measuring function
16:17:27 <Echidna> sending electricity through your hi p
16:19:23 <downeym> !ticket 2110
16:19:23 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: Ticket #2110: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2110
16:21:10 <pascal`> At my old company, if you broke the build or the testcases, you have to buy your team donuts :)
16:21:25 <chopin> ooo, good idea
16:21:29 <zeshan> i do not like that plan. my ffm would increase.
16:21:40 <chopin> ffm++
16:22:08 <pascal`> it all ends well, because even if you break something, everyone is happy :)
16:22:18 <nribeka> what is ffm?
16:22:33 * chopin pinches an inch
16:22:34 <pascal`> nribeka, read above about ffm
16:23:01 <pascal`> start with: <Echidna> whats ffm
16:23:13 <nribeka> ah ... ic
16:23:36 <pascal`> Can the datapoint be: sounds like barry white?
16:25:06 <pascal`> sms can surely just be one output stream?
16:26:00 <zeshan> right, that's we had planned out.
16:26:26 <pascal`> yeah, it's good design imo
16:30:21 <njero> zeshan: sorry, reading backscroll, who are you with?
16:30:32 <zeshan> I'm a Regenstrief Informatics Fellow.
16:30:40 <chopin> hellow fellow
16:30:40 <njero> ah, where are you using SMS?
16:31:26 <zeshan> I'm implementing some SMS systems in Kenya myself, but I can certainly help wherever needed.
16:31:40 <njero> zeshan: ah I asked because we have done a few
16:32:07 <njero> zeshan: what provider are you using?
16:32:20 <njero> or what service?
16:32:38 <zeshan> What we're currently developing is module agnostic.
16:32:42 <zeshan> errr, provider agnostic.
16:32:57 <njero> interesting
16:33:23 <njero> Are you using any particular toolkit?
16:33:49 <zeshan> We're looking at using SMSLib for SMS messaging, and haven't decided on other libraries for other messaging media (maybe email, twitter, some others)
16:34:04 <njero> twitter doesn't send to Kenya
16:34:07 <njero> afaik
16:34:28 <zeshan> I don't have a need for twitter other than testing, but it's something in the back of my mind as development continues.
16:34:38 <zeshan> (and I was tweeting from Kenya while I was there)
16:34:48 <njero> yeah when we were in Malawi we sed twitter for everything... then they shut it down in '08
16:35:06 <njero> were you tweeting t the +44 number?
16:35:20 <njero> (why is my keyboard dropping keys!)
16:35:24 <zeshan> no, over data using Safaricom's GPRS service
16:35:34 <njero> ah, yeah.. makes sense
16:35:53 <njero> but it wasn't SMS'ing you back was it?
16:36:02 <zeshan> no, I don't use that.
16:36:16 <njero> okay... I was all fluttery for a second
16:37:26 <njero> chopin: yo
16:37:52 <chopin> njero: yo ... i accidentally ref'd you when shooting for nribeka
16:38:05 <njero> its okay, I felt the love.
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16:39:39 * chopin has enough to go around
16:39:57 <nribeka> :D
16:44:37 <downeym> We need a security working group: http://openmrs.org/wiki/WorkingGroups
16:45:40 <chopin> an OpenMRS Security Czar
16:47:15 <pascal`> I think we spoke about that bit at the last meeting
16:49:04 <pascal`> downeym: http://openmrs.org/wiki/2009_Implementers_Group_Meeting_Program/Security
16:49:05 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/4Anl> (at openmrs.org)
16:49:24 <pascal`> Dont think that'll be much help... but we did have a session about it :)
16:51:19 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12204]: reporting: Completed first pass of UI for fixing broken serialized … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12204> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2110 (task created): remove RuleClassLoader and LogicService.loadRule <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2110>
17:02:26 <pascal`> it's been working well for me..
17:04:56 <nribeka> http://pastie.org/842560
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17:23:22 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12205]: visitscheduler: fixing Provider Appointment management. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12205>
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17:55:26 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2112 (defect created): The Manage HL7 Producers list stops at 1000 producers <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2112> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12208]: webservices.jaxws.api: added PersonAttributeDTO and BaseOpenmrsDataDTO and … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12208> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2111 (task created): User.forcePasswordChange, and user expiration should become part of the core API <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2111> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12207]: Tagging 0.5 beta version of Visit Scheduler module. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12207> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12206]: visitscheduler: Version 0.5. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12206>
18:27:27 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2113 (defect created): Attempting to add a producer that matches a retired producer violates a constraint <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2113>
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19:06:49 <jkeiper> that's silly
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19:12:14 <bwolfe> jkeiper: the command you're looking for is "ghost" to kick another nick of yourself
19:13:05 <nribeka> hi jkeiper
19:13:43 <nribeka> hi bwolfe
19:14:43 <jkeiper> hi nribeka
19:16:57 <nribeka> so, what should i transfer to you jkeiper
19:27:15 <jkeiper> i have no clue
19:27:48 * downeym has posted the recordings of today's meeting at: http://openmrs.org/wiki/2010-02-25_Developers_Conference_Call
19:27:52 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/55c5> (at openmrs.org)
19:31:35 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2114 (task created): Sending locations in producers and reportable results don't match <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2114> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2113 (defect closed): Attempting to add a producer that matches a retired producer violates a constraint <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2113#comment:3> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12211]: ncd: #2113 removed the constraint that caused the problem. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12211> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2112 (defect closed): The Manage HL7 Producers list stops at 1000 producers <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2112#comment:3> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12210]: ncd: #2112 changed the limit on rows fetched to a really big value, for … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12210>
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20:30:11 <robbyoconnor> "Paul made an executive decision to commit to Adren syntax. (Burke wasn't here to object!) " LAOL
20:30:27 <downeym> ;-)
20:31:33 <nribeka> burke is here now
20:35:41 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2114 (defect closed): Sending locations in producers and reportable results don't match <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2114#comment:3> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12212]: ncd: #2114 fixed ResultStorageHelper to use the right Provider method to … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12212>
20:36:30 <robbyoconnor> omg pascal` you worked in the 2009 soc!
20:36:33 <robbyoconnor> and got a job?!
20:36:37 <robbyoconnor> just clicked!
20:36:49 <nribeka> clicked?
20:36:59 <robbyoconnor> i saw his soc project :P
20:37:47 <nribeka> ah ..
20:47:14 <bwolfe> robbyoconnor: different pascal
20:47:31 <robbyoconnor> ah
20:47:33 <robbyoconnor> ok
20:54:01 <bwolfe> robbyoconnor: wait, are you seeing pavel ? :-)
20:54:14 <bwolfe> robbyoconnor: the guy I was thinking of wasn't actually a pascal
20:54:19 <nribeka> pakon, bwolfe?
20:54:31 <robbyoconnor> you misspeled his name then!
20:54:36 <bwolfe> that might have been his real name
20:54:38 <bwolfe> robbyoconnor: link?
20:55:01 <robbyoconnor> hold
20:55:23 <robbyoconnor> http://openmrs.org/wiki/2010-02-25_Developers_Conference_Call
20:55:24 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/55c5> (at openmrs.org)
20:55:33 <robbyoconnor> his name is rigth
20:55:44 <robbyoconnor> http://openmrs.org/wiki/User:Pascal
20:55:52 <robbyoconnor> WAIIIIT
20:55:54 <robbyoconnor> diff projecr
20:55:57 <robbyoconnor> project*
20:56:27 <nribeka> what project did you look at?
20:56:42 <robbyoconnor> first one
20:56:53 * robbyoconnor hangs his head
20:59:27 * nribeka smack robbyoconnor
21:00:14 <robbyoconnor> harder.
21:01:25 <bwolfe> do you guys need some alone time?
21:02:14 <Echidna> lol
21:03:47 <robbyoconnor> nah lol
21:04:46 <jkeiper> bwolfe: hi
21:05:15 * jkeiper is in a looooooooong meeting
21:07:10 <bwolfe> jkeiper: aren't those fun? have you had any input in it yet? :-p
21:07:16 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12215]: removed message translations and changed version to 0.1 (was 3.3.1 and was … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12215> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12214]: PCSLabInterface initial import <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12214> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12213]: creating PCSLabInterface module repository <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12213>
21:08:11 <jkeiper> weee!
21:08:21 <jkeiper> bwolfe: yeah, specifically w/ HL7 processing
21:08:31 <jkeiper> those are all my commits btw
21:08:36 <jkeiper> PSCLabInterface
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21:16:39 <nribeka> PCS jkeiper
21:16:46 <nribeka> gotta love the PCS stuff
21:16:47 <jkeiper> foreal'
21:17:01 <nribeka> i know downeym love PCS stuff
21:17:04 <jkeiper> gotta love the module ... filled with FormEntry code that doesn't belong 8|
21:17:09 * downeym sighs
21:17:16 <nribeka> he fall in love with LIMS system
21:17:24 <nribeka> love at first sight in this same room
21:17:27 <downeym> why do you want to ruin my day
21:17:45 <nribeka> admit it downeym ...
21:17:58 <nribeka> spill it out ... spill it out how much you love PCS / LIMS
21:17:59 <downeym> never
21:19:03 <jkeiper> the only think to like is the pain it can inflict on others
21:20:29 <nribeka> hohoho ... tell me about it. the PCS guy, when we asked them to fix the hl7 transport mechanism (ftp and copy file), said: "Give me 5 mins"
21:20:42 <nribeka> and we end up waiting for 2h and not done
21:20:49 <jkeiper> geez
21:21:16 <nribeka> that's why we have winscp to transport the hl7 message from the lims machine to the server
21:21:40 <nribeka> because lims doesn't know how to write to a shared folder :P
21:22:03 <nribeka> but they claim they can :)
21:22:14 <jkeiper> it must be really difficult in .NET ;-)
21:22:27 <nribeka> i guess so
21:22:33 <jkeiper> Twizzler: how did you like today's conference call?
21:22:39 <nribeka> i guess windows program can't access windows shared folder ;)
21:22:44 <jkeiper> haha
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21:27:57 <downeym> Hi everyone. We are moving the module repository over to a new server (probably) tonight. Could I get anyone willing to test out the new instance? http://bangangte.openmrs.org/
21:30:35 <jkeiper> downeym: works for me ... why the move?
21:31:02 <downeym> Hosting company forced us on to a new box :)
21:31:04 <jkeiper> downeym: header is funked up
21:31:13 <robbyoconnor> jkeiper: use spring contrllers!
21:31:22 * robbyoconnor slaps jkeiper's hand for using a scriptlet
21:31:25 <robbyoconnor> BAD CODER BAD!
21:31:28 <jkeiper> robbyoconnor: re: PCSLabCrap?
21:31:28 <robbyoconnor> NO DONUT!
21:31:31 <robbyoconnor> yes!
21:31:37 <downeym> jkeiper: Funked how? Same as http://modules.openmrs.org/ ?
21:31:44 <jkeiper> robbyoconnor: that's the code as I inherited it from bmcwhoosie
21:32:03 <jkeiper> downeym: oh, yep. nevermind then!
21:32:05 <robbyoconnor> oh, where did i put that shotgun and what end do the bullets come out of?
21:32:15 <jkeiper> downeym: two Downloads
21:32:31 <jkeiper> robbyoconnor: haha ... i got to decompile this one too 8|
21:32:40 <robbyoconnor> ouch
21:32:46 <jkeiper> for real
21:32:47 <robbyoconnor> okay you're spared
21:32:58 <nribeka> where is the scriptlet robbyoconnor?
21:32:59 <downeym> jkeiper: Yeah, but I am seeing that on the current one, too :) ... not trying to fix any bugs yet, just moving it over
21:33:01 <nribeka> i didn't see it?
21:33:07 <robbyoconnor> http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs-modules/pcslabinterface/trunk/web/module/pcsLabInterfaceInfo.jsp?rev=12214
21:33:08 <jkeiper> robbyoconnor: yeah, 0.2 will be quick patches to keep it from destroying lives
21:33:11 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5611> (at dev.openmrs.org)
21:33:13 <jkeiper> robbyoconnor: then 1.0 will be refactored
21:33:22 <robbyoconnor> and 2.0 will be a re-write?
21:33:36 <robbyoconnor> http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs-modules/pcslabinterface/trunk/web/module/pcsLabInterfaceInfo.jsp
21:33:37 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/5612> (at dev.openmrs.org)
21:33:40 <robbyoconnor> much better.
21:33:41 <robbyoconnor> :)
21:33:48 <jkeiper> robbyoconnor: 2.0 will have documentation ;-)
21:33:50 <nribeka> that's fine jkeiper
21:33:54 <nribeka> don't listen to robbyoconnor
21:34:05 <nribeka> love the scriptlet
21:34:08 <robbyoconnor> nribeka: I *HATE* scriptletsa you have no idea how much i hate them!
21:34:18 <nribeka> scriptlet is the path to glorious days ... lol
21:34:23 * nribeka duck
21:34:26 <jkeiper> we had a nice widget discussion at lunch today
21:34:39 <robbyoconnor> there were points last summer where using a scriptlet would have been the easy way
21:34:43 <robbyoconnor> but i avoided them! :D
21:34:48 <robbyoconnor> EL functions FTW!
21:35:42 <nribeka> jkeiper, have you seen the lims / pcs system?
21:36:04 <jkeiper> robbyoconnor: i believe bmckown literally copied the then-current FormEntry module and mass-replaced formentry with pcslabinterface
21:36:10 <jkeiper> nribeka: no
21:36:27 <robbyoconnor> holy crap LOL
21:36:59 <robbyoconnor> I did that w/ groovyforms :)
21:37:12 <robbyoconnor> I inherited burke's code -- then switched it up :)
21:37:23 <nribeka> you will fall in love with them jkeiper. ask downeym ;)
21:37:25 <jkeiper> it all depends on who wrote the original code, and what version it is ;-)
21:37:30 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12217]: accidentally moved trunk to a tag; copying it back <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12217> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [12216]: tagging PCSLabInterface at version 0.1 (initial status in-use at … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/12216>
21:37:31 <robbyoconnor> not his coding thougH!
21:37:32 <robbyoconnor> :)
21:38:35 <robbyoconnor> I'm sure i'd like him -- just I have a beef w/ scriptlets :)
21:38:47 <robbyoconnor> namely because they can be avoided :)
21:39:33 <jkeiper> right on. i'll make that a priority in 0.2.1
21:39:35 <jkeiper> ;-0
21:43:42 <robbyoconnor> EL Functions and taglibs
21:44:45 <robbyoconnor> http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs-modules/facilitydata/trunk/web/src/org/openmrs/module/facilitydata/web/taglib/FacilityDataFunctions.java
21:44:47 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/561M> (at dev.openmrs.org)
21:45:09 <robbyoconnor> http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs-modules/facilitydata/trunk/web/module/facilitydata.tld
21:45:10 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/561N> (at dev.openmrs.org)
21:45:16 <robbyoconnor> how to do EL functions :)
21:45:18 <nribeka> where is the comments robbyoconnor?
21:45:24 * nribeka duck
21:45:55 <robbyoconnor> I named the functions very well :)
21:46:15 <robbyoconnor> and in the class -- the code speaks well :)
21:47:05 <robbyoconnor> cept days/reason code :)
21:48:29 <robbyoconnor> it's enough to accomplish what I want: help you people to avoid those pesky scriptlets :)
21:48:45 <robbyoconnor> the code itself is VERY specialized to what i needed at the time :)
21:53:47 * jkeiper is tired of banter / running out of laptop power.
21:53:51 <jkeiper> bye!
21:54:02 <robbyoconnor> jkeiper
21:54:03 <robbyoconnor> !!!!!
21:54:03 <OpenMRSBot> robbyoconnor: Error: "!!!!" is not a valid command.
21:54:09 <downeym> !?
21:54:09 <OpenMRSBot> downeym: Error: "?" is not a valid command.
21:54:19 * robbyoconnor ties jkeiper to his chair
21:54:22 <robbyoconnor> STAY! :D
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