IRC Chat : 2010-02-03 - OpenMRS

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02:47:15 <upul> hey bwolfe
03:05:27 <bwolfe> hi upul
03:06:32 <upul> bwolfe, is that feb 8 week thing video available after the streaming?
03:08:36 <bwolfe> should be
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08:04:36 <upul`> hey upul
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10:07:13 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Problem after deploying OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=561#p2056>
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11:11:13 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Problem after deploying OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=561#p2057>
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11:43:16 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Problem after deploying OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=561#p2058>
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13:49:25 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11958]: atd * added support for location restrictions in rules <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11958>
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14:00:54 <Echidna> b to tha dubya
14:07:58 <upul> Echidna, answer is 334.039920400230903999
14:09:14 <Echidna> upul: what is your weight in kg?
14:10:42 <pascal`> Your search - 334.039920400230903999 - did not match any documents. =(
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15:59:37 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11959]: ncd: Fixing an IU Phamis institution. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11959>
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17:03:43 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11960]: rwandaprimarycarepilot. First check in after integration with … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11960>
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17:12:57 <SparFux> Hi all!
17:15:30 <Echidna> Hi you!
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17:27:32 <bwolfe> welcome back SparFux
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18:07:50 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Problem after deploying OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=561#p2059> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2066 (task created): Modules Should Not Have To Mark Core Modules As Required <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2066>
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18:34:37 * chopin really, really, really can't wait to not be working from home ... just a few more days.
18:34:53 <chopin> bwolfe: should I pop by Friday?
18:35:07 <SparFux> chopin: Why? Working from home is greate!
18:35:12 <bwolfe> chopin: sure
18:35:20 <bwolfe> chopin: are you still working? I thought you had this week off
18:35:22 <chopin> SparFux: yeh, if nobody else is at home 8|
18:35:53 <chopin> chopin: eh, i made them extend it so i could a) get healthcare coverage, and b) earn dollars for this week :-)
18:36:13 <SparFux> chopin: Ah, get it.
18:37:02 <chopin> this week i'm exclusively working on developing online training courses ... in Adobe Captivate *gag* ... and listening to my voice for hours upon hours. It's a little like waterboarding but with audio.
18:39:52 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1812 (task closed): Saved Cohorts don't auto-update <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1812#comment:2>
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18:43:41 <SparFux> chopin: online courses. Well I always think about best thing would be to have some online audio conference to talk to each other on a regular basis. I think online training is best. And it's fun to tell others stuff in such audio conferences.
18:44:06 <SparFux> chopin: the very best thing would be to even have a kind of a remote desktop, but with proper security of course.
18:44:34 <chopin> SparFux: right, these are pre-recorded courses that track your progress and have quizzes at the end
18:44:36 <chopin> not my idea
18:44:37 <chopin> :-/
18:45:00 <SparFux> Once I even thought it would be great to have some kind of educational shell, like a "watch only shell". So others on the net could show what they are doing in their shell.
18:45:09 <chopin> i just get to develop the content, write the script, record and speak the narration, synchronize everything and package it for delivery (ugh)
18:45:40 <SparFux> chopin: Hm.. well, of course. That's great, too. But I can tell you, if you record the lessons in such online sessions, you get the hell of some educational videos, too.
18:46:33 <bwolfe> SparFux: those kinds of things exist
18:46:58 <bwolfe> SparFux: I even saw an open source one recently. the teacher can remotely watch each students computer and all the students can see/hear the teacher
18:47:02 <SparFux> bwolfe: Well, it's not that common, though. The common thing is to chat on irc and ask questions.
18:47:09 <chopin> SparFux: yep, i really prefer teaching a class with some interaction, especially when you're teaching technical stuff. we're treating this right now as a sort of video-based API guide.
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18:48:19 <SparFux> It would be cool if there was really common software for this. I think the way to communicate is combination of video, graphics board, text (for pasting) and audio / video conference.
18:48:38 <SparFux> Like only chatting is crappy for some stuff, but reading URLs on the phone is crappy, too.
18:49:57 <chopin> yea, this software outputs to a "learning platform" version of flash ... so we can preview it using flash, but the learning platform can track things like quiz score, percent of slides actually watched, etc.
19:02:41 <chopin> bwolfe: thinking about testing traffic on friday AM so I don't underestimate it on monday ... plus we talked about getting a laptop configured, but I can come in later if you need me to.
19:04:24 <bwolfe> chopin: yes, your laptop is here. If you want to come in and set it up, that'd be great!
19:04:39 <SparFux> How can I change the OpenMRS admin password?
19:04:47 <SparFux> As root on local machine?
19:05:24 <bwolfe> chopin: friday morning is good for me. I usually get in around 8:30. what time were you thinking?
19:05:38 <chopin> bwolfe: excellent. I'll shoot for 8:30-ish.
19:05:40 <bwolfe> SparFux: the password is hashed in the mysql database
19:05:51 <SparFux> bwolfe: hm... perhaps I can erase it?
19:06:44 <bwolfe> if you erase it you won't be able to log in either
19:06:59 <bwolfe> SparFux: did you forget it? do you just need to reset it to a known pw ?
19:07:21 <SparFux> bwolfe: yes.
19:07:32 <bwolfe> I see
19:07:43 <SparFux> for admin user.
19:07:56 <bwolfe> I have been meaning to write a wiki page on how to do all things passwords...but haven't gotten to it
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19:11:03 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11961]: in patientmatching module, fixed integer overflow in u-value calculation … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11961>
19:11:47 <SparFux> bwolfe: Ah, got the password :-)
19:13:09 <Echidna> winter =/
19:13:10 <SparFux> Ok, perhaps I should go into the xForms thingy.
19:13:21 <SparFux> Winter is great :-)
19:13:27 <Echidna> no it's not
19:13:41 <Echidna> i couldnt get out of the parking lot this morning
19:13:47 <Echidna> had to borrow a shovel to remove the snow
19:14:04 <SparFux> I like it. White, cold, clean, nice.
19:14:05 <Echidna> then the goundskeeper had to push me and put pebbles around my car
19:14:14 <robbyoconnor> hai
19:14:21 <Echidna> had to tip him with 10€
19:14:40 <SparFux> The OpenMRS is laggy, I have to say. Using it on the same machine and it lags more than one second on a click.
19:15:15 <robbyoconnor> SparFux: heh?
19:15:42 <robbyoconnor> okay -- 3 physics problems then i play with facilitydat :D
19:16:55 <SparFux> robbyoconnor: Yes, really. I create a user and it takes more than one second to SAVE.
19:17:15 <robbyoconnor> your system could be slow..
19:17:18 <robbyoconnor> that shouldn't be..
19:17:39 <robbyoconnor> your nick sounds wrong to me SparFux
19:17:44 <SparFux> Strange. I think my computer is quite fast.
19:18:00 <SparFux> robbyoconnor: What do you mean by wrong?
19:18:28 <robbyoconnor> I'm not gonna explain it in a publically logged channel which people I'd potentially like to work for can read it :P
19:18:30 <SparFux> So, I want to have OpenMRS accessible on https://myipaddress.com:443/openmrs/
19:18:41 <robbyoconnor> SparFux: port forwarding
19:18:43 <robbyoconnor> :)
19:18:48 <robbyoconnor> set it up.
19:19:26 <SparFux> robbyoconnor: port-forwarding depending on subdir which is accessed.
19:19:50 <robbyoconnor> you can put tomcat behind apache and use modjk?
19:19:54 <robbyoconnor> or whatever it's called
19:20:07 <SparFux> modjk, hm...
19:21:44 <robbyoconnor> then apache can forward it
19:22:10 <SparFux> I tried something like proxypass, but it's a hassle, doesn't seem to always work.
19:27:47 <SparFux> robbyoconnor: ok, but modjk is just a solution when tomcat is in place. I thought of even having a solution, some program de-sslifying, then looking for the path, and according to subdir path forwarding to special port on local machine or remote machine. That would be more general.
19:28:14 <robbyoconnor> hrm
19:28:21 <robbyoconnor> mod_rewrite would work.
19:29:53 <chopin> yea, i usually use mod rewrite to pass a URL to an internal app server running on a different port
19:30:14 <chopin> so /openmrs -> :8080/openmrs .... or something like that
19:30:18 <chopin> but i really dig mod_rewrite
19:33:31 <SparFux> chopin: robbyoconnor: But even for https://rl2.dnsalias.net:443/openmrs/ -> http://localhost:8080/openmrs/ ?
19:34:12 <SparFux> Or for https://rl2.dnsalias.net/mldonkey/ -> http://localhost:4080/ ?
19:34:24 <SparFux> I remember that was my problem. To change the subdir path.
19:38:47 <SparFux> http://pastebin.com/m5e83203a
19:39:52 <SparFux> That's what I tried. But it does not really work.
19:43:55 <SparFux> Plus, rewrite is changing info. What I want to do is pass thru. Otherwise some software gets irritated, I have to admit.
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20:01:36 <chopin> SparFux: i'm not sure about ProxyPass but RewriteRules always do the job for me, and yes :443 can forward to :anything.
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20:14:05 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11962]: visitscheduler: fixing display of type color codes. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11962>
20:46:08 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11963]: PearlGrlz: Initial import <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11963>
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21:44:04 <bwolfe> chopin: I find on my commute that the difference between 8 am traffic and 7 am traffic is huge
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22:25:09 <chopin> bwolfe: you mean 7am is ridiculous and 8am isn't as bad?
22:25:59 <bwolfe> chopin: for me 7-745am is a breeze, 745-8:20am is bad, and 8:20+ is a breeze
22:26:13 <bwolfe> but I'm coming from the north
22:26:38 <chopin> huh! well, i'd probably prefer earlier than later ... I assume coming from the west/southwest/70 is going to be just as bad
22:26:49 <chopin> once i get inside 465
22:27:45 <chopin> this is just guesswork, but i may want to get there a little early to grab a bagel somewhere before starting at 8
22:28:06 <chopin> any good bagel shops around? ... totally miss brueggers.
22:30:05 <bwolfe> there are probably some downtown
22:30:16 <bwolfe> and theres a au bon pain very close
22:35:07 <chopin> ooh la la
22:35:25 <chopin> excellent! not that I need bagels, but ... excellent nonetheless.
22:35:47 <chopin> k, i'm going to go put up baby gates / bring boxes in / kill myself on -stairs- (lived in a ranch for two years)
22:36:04 <chopin> \o
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23:26:27 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11964]: visitscheduler: reworking Appointment creation form in ExtJS (over quota … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11964>
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