IRC Chat : 2010-01-13 - OpenMRS

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02:22:04 <bwolfe> basic`: do you do a lot of vm management ?
02:37:20 <robbyoconnor> jquery data tables seems to like to center *EVERYTHING* :|
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03:14:49 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11684]: facility data: fix CRUD pages for sections to reflect the new Many to many … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11684>
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03:45:47 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11685]: idgen: Fix null check on identifier validator <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11685>
05:20:55 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11686]: facility data: final stage of change. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11686>
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07:14:15 <pascal`> hey
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08:45:04 <upul> hey
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09:09:23 <pascal`> hi upul
09:09:52 <upul> hi pascal`
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09:38:49 <sthaiya> hi
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10:07:16 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2018 (enhancement created): Drop the User_ID from Notification_Alert <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2018>
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14:05:20 <pascal`> hey bwolfe
14:05:36 <bwolfe> hi pascal`
14:05:46 <pascal`> bwolfe, are you a father of two yet?
14:06:14 <bwolfe> nope, just one
14:06:26 <pascal`> how long still?
14:06:31 <bwolfe> the second comes in about a month
14:06:48 <pascal`> 0 - 2 in world record speed (+
14:06:50 <pascal`> (=
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14:54:07 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11687]: -chica * move call to get source_code from map. * change error log in hl7 … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11687>
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14:56:24 <Echidna> bwolfe: was it a spontaneous decision to adopt?
14:56:47 <bwolfe> almost
14:57:06 <bwolfe> we went through the adoption process this summer...took about 2 months for the paperwork, etc
14:57:11 <Echidna> heh
14:57:21 <bwolfe> then Meghan got pregnant and they said we couldn't adopt anymore...
14:57:36 <Echidna> they being whom
14:57:36 <bwolfe> we then went to kenya and fell in love with Eden and decided to adopt her :-)
14:57:42 <Echidna> oh
14:57:52 <Echidna> so you were gonna adopt an american baby at first?
14:58:47 <bwolfe> a lesotho baby actually
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14:59:37 <bwolfe> because we were planning to go to south africa and kenya already...and we were just going to "swign through" lesotho to adopt
15:00:08 <bwolfe> (we initially wanted to adopt from kenya, but the process seemed to long at the time, so we switched to lesotho. once we saw Eden the process didn't seem so long)
15:00:58 <Echidna> heh
15:03:23 <chopin___> bwolfe: do you work at regenstrief? did I meet you already?
15:04:35 <bwolfe> chopin___: yeah, this is Ben. met you along with Burke and Paul at your interview :-)
15:05:31 <chopin___> right on, hey ben! so, adoption?
15:05:55 <chopin___> that's great!
15:05:59 <chopin___> i'll have mucho questions
15:06:01 <chopin___> but congrats
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15:07:52 <bwolfe> chopin___: yep! see some pics and most of the story: http://benandmeghan.net
15:08:00 <chopin___> neato!
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15:08:51 <chopin> bwolfe: ah, that's my wife's bday! hey, that's the day I interviewed. :-D
15:10:16 <bwolfe> chopin: you mean Eden's birthday? that was a saturday. I don't remember coming in to work on a saturday... :-p
15:11:01 <chopin> hah, oh ... i'm wrong. yep, it was the 11th. anyways, it's definitely easy to remember (12/12).
15:11:30 <bwolfe> yeah, thats why we picked it :-)
15:11:48 <bwolfe> ...and then we found out 12/12 is kenya's independence day, so it was settled
15:11:55 <chopin> oooooh
15:11:58 <chopin> neat!
15:13:42 <Echidna> what do you mean picked
15:13:46 <Echidna> =o
15:14:03 <bwolfe> Echidna: Eden was abandoned, so we don't know her real birthday
15:14:31 <Echidna> o
15:14:32 <Echidna> =(
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15:59:38 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2019 (task created): Document global property: layout.name.format <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2019>
16:31:45 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2019 (task closed): Document global property: layout.name.format <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2019#comment:1>
17:35:46 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: CAS integration with OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=553#p2031>
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18:25:51 <njero> hey bwolfe or jmiranda... I have a quick question on obs you guys around?
18:26:41 <jmiranda> hey njero yeah, shoot
18:27:17 <njero> jmiranda: in obs there is a concept_id, but there is no concept_name_id... I thought this was added for Andy Kanter
18:27:35 <njero> so that you know which concept_name should be associated with the specific obs
18:27:51 <njero> I know this exists for value_coded and value_coded_name_id
18:30:09 <jmiranda> njero, yeah i would have sworn that it was there
18:30:31 <jmiranda> i guess andy was only concerned with the answer
18:31:31 <njero> Do you think it is worth proposing it and ticketing
18:31:35 <jmiranda> njero, the problem with using concept_id or even concept_name_id within the obs table for the question
18:32:07 <jmiranda> is that you don't always know which question it represents on the form
18:32:18 <njero> well, for us, it is the form
18:32:30 <njero> that is why I don't know if this is a specific thing
18:33:19 <jmiranda> what is the form?
18:33:21 <jmiranda> the question?
18:33:36 <jmiranda> meaning, one form = one question (in your case)
18:33:47 <njero> well, one obs = one question
18:33:51 <jmiranda> right
18:34:01 <njero> we generate the "quesiton" based on the obs
18:34:08 <jmiranda> but sometimes if you might have the same concept behind two different questions
18:34:39 <jmiranda> what is your WEIGHT?
18:34:45 <jmiranda> what is your cousin's WEIGHT?
18:34:52 <jmiranda> would both use WEIGHT as the concept
18:35:02 <jmiranda> anyway, that's getting away from your point
18:35:12 <njero> right, we don't have any situations like that yet :)
18:35:29 <jmiranda> you wouldn't want to create COUSIN'S WEIGHT as a concept
18:35:55 <jmiranda> that's a pretty trivial example, but we have cases like that in our Rwanda forms
18:36:01 <njero> interesting
18:36:11 <jmiranda> but yes, i would bring it up and maybe we can discuss it on a design review call
18:36:17 <njero> cool
18:36:29 <jmiranda> send an email to the dev list with a brief description of the problem
18:37:32 <njero> cooll
18:37:36 <njero> thanks :)
18:37:55 <jmiranda> and it doesn't seem like a major change
18:38:05 <jmiranda> so i don't think that would be hard to push through
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19:54:50 <bwolfe> njero / jmiranda : sorry I wasn't around to stem off the conversation. concept_name_id WAS part of andreas' stuff and was taken out
19:55:10 <bwolfe> I can't remember the exact reason, but it was something about the concept_name not representing the question asked properly
19:55:24 <bwolfe> and that we shouldn't be putting questions into concept names
19:59:08 <jmiranda> bwolfe, njero: i don't see anything explicit in the code review notes to explain why it was removed either
19:59:09 <jmiranda> http://docs.google.com/View?id=dnc9s5q_83g899mxft
19:59:12 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/4pVi> (at docs.google.com)
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20:13:57 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11688]: Renaming the custom build for ampath to 1.6 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11688>
20:14:23 <bwolfe> hey r-friedman
20:14:27 <bwolfe> you've found us. :-)
20:29:51 <njero> jmiranda, bwolfe: ah thanks
20:30:12 <njero> how do you guys handle the display of observations with multiple associated concept names? just grab the first?
20:30:27 <njero> Maybe an alternative would be a "preferred" on concept_name?
20:32:47 <bwolfe> njero: there is a preferred tag for concept_names
20:32:51 <bwolfe> and that is what is used. :-)
20:32:58 <njero> ah'
20:33:01 <bwolfe> so, great idea, I think we'll use it! :-D
20:33:03 <njero> a tag makes some sense
20:33:13 <njero> :D
20:33:40 <njero> we could even tag for our module and cheat the whole form system!
20:33:47 * njero goes off and makes hundreds of tags
20:36:49 <bwolfe> njero: yep
20:49:08 <robbyoconnor> hehe last night i read that they're adding closures to java in java 7 afterall
20:49:23 <robbyoconnor> #(int x, int y) x+y;
20:50:09 <robbyoconnor> I hate the syntax and hope it dies.
20:50:50 <robbyoconnor> they're smushing together first class methods (FCM) and BGGA and taking the best of both of them...
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20:59:27 <bwolfe> robbyoconnor: can you give a fuller example ? (or a link)
20:59:58 <robbyoconnor> sure hold
21:00:22 <robbyoconnor> http://www.javac.info/closures-v06a.html
21:00:27 <robbyoconnor> http://javac.info
21:00:47 <robbyoconnor> sadly my examples are now outdated. -- i need to update those
21:02:29 <robbyoconnor> the more i read it, the more i wanted to claw my eyes out
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21:02:37 <robbyoconnor> closures exist!
21:03:23 <robbyoconnor> Closure c = {int x, int y -> x + y }; assert c.invoke(3,4) == 7;
21:11:06 <bwolfe> heh, would have been funnier if christel had given us the link to not click in here global notice there :-p
21:22:24 <robbyoconnor> huh?
21:22:50 <chopin> hah
21:24:55 <robbyoconnor> what link :P
21:50:07 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11691]: Adding files for amrs-1.6.x custom builds <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11691> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11690]: Initial import. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11690> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [11689]: Removing old amrs 1.6 custom builds <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/11689> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #2020 (task created): Patient names should not be stored with trailing whitespace <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/2020>
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23:37:10 <Echidna> http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/13/robertson-haiti/
23:37:15 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/4pZp> (at thinkprogress.org)
23:37:15 <Echidna> what a douche
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