IRC Chat : 2009-12-10 - OpenMRS

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03:51:58 <Mkop> Echidna: are you here?
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04:52:40 * r0bby stressed :(
04:53:06 <upul> take a break
04:55:05 <r0bby> i did.
04:55:19 <r0bby> I have an exam in the A.M. and i will be taking it on ZERO sleep :)
04:55:21 <r0bby> JOY JOy
04:55:39 <r0bby> the choice is: 1) go to sleep and gamble or 2) stay up and study
04:56:22 <upul> in sri lanka some of the school exam papers come with the answer sheet attached :-p
04:56:33 <r0bby> wtf
04:56:47 <r0bby> that...defeats the purpose doesn't it?
04:57:26 <r0bby> i mean an equation sheet... that's ok
04:57:30 <r0bby> but ANSWER SHEET
04:57:40 <upul> that's what you get when politicians put their henchmen to their ministries
04:58:05 <upul> there were lots of mistakes in school exams like that, giving science paper to maths paper
04:58:24 <r0bby> I can't believe this.. the only thing i see standing in my way right now is physics :(
05:01:51 <r0bby> ugh all i do is bitch
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08:55:38 <upul> 10.0D what else is there other than xXdDlLfF in java
08:56:52 <r0bby> wtf ?
08:57:16 <upul> i'm trying isNumber but everything available so far fails
08:59:20 <r0bby> hmm?
08:59:40 <r0bby> yeh that's it i think
08:59:47 <r0bby> I think they're adding byte literals to the mix
09:00:11 <upul> byte literal?
09:04:43 <r0bby> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/coin-dev/2009-March/000905.html
09:04:49 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/4gD+> (at mail.openjdk.java.net)
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09:34:01 <upul> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-longest-lecture
09:34:04 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/4gDU> (at www.ustream.tv)
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09:55:58 <r0bby> Echidna Echidna Echidna
09:57:48 <upul> they say there's a terrorist threat to american software companies in india
10:01:20 <r0bby> cute...
10:01:25 <r0bby> there's always a terrorist threat
10:01:55 <r0bby> Welcome to post 9/11 -- you know it's funny -- my US history course has taught me one thing: this country was f'ed up then and it's even worse now!
10:04:09 <upul> actually we were able to finish off terrorists here thanks that bomb, otherwise terrorists were making billions in USA, that stopped thanks to osasma
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10:10:07 <r0bby> what bomb?
10:10:34 <upul> that big one with wings
10:10:59 <upul> 2 "big boy"s
10:11:42 <r0bby> big boy and little man or something
10:11:54 <upul> little boy
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11:24:41 <upul> slight drizzle
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11:50:41 <Echidna> wut
11:52:32 <r0bby|android> hai
11:52:37 <Echidna> hi
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13:50:44 <upul> hey bwolfe
13:51:10 <bwolfe> hi upul
13:51:21 <upul> how do you cleanly check a String isNumber bwolfe
13:52:21 <bwolfe> upul: I usually just try to cast it to an integer and throw errors back to the user in a nice way
14:02:44 <upul> parseLong refuses 4L, 3D but parseDouble accepts 3D, but 3D shouldn't be a 'number', very confusing
14:06:12 <upul> Java numbers 1f, 1d are numbers to parseDouble, but not to any other
14:11:21 <upul> probably they were written by two people
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15:21:26 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Problems installing OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=539#p1983> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1795 (task reopened): Fetching data from LogicCache always fail if the LogicCriteria contains Duration <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1795#comment:6> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1795 (task closed): Fetching data from LogicCache always fail if the LogicCriteria contains Duration <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1795#comment:5> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Problems installing OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=539#p1982>
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15:53:29 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Schema Design Loading takes forever <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=540#p1984> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1960 (defect created): HTML Form Entry - Error: Failed to initialize org.apache.velocity.runtime.log.Log4JLogChute <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1960> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1874 (task reopened): Create a general way to create a logic criteria <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1874#comment:4> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1795 (task closed): Fetching data from LogicCache always fail if the LogicCriteria contains Duration <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1795#comment:8> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1794 (task closed): Get operation from LogicCache become very slow <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1794#comment:5> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1874 (task closed): Create a general way to create a logic criteria <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1874#comment:2>
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16:24:01 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Schema Design Loading takes forever <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=540#p1985> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1960 (defect closed): HTML Form Entry - Error: Failed to initialize org.apache.velocity.runtime.log.Log4JLogChute <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1960#comment:1>
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17:09:16 <pascal`> bwolfe, got a second?
17:09:40 <pascal`> or jmiranda (=
17:09:56 <jmiranda> hey pascal`
17:09:58 <jmiranda> what's up
17:11:06 <pascal`> hey d00d, just getting a weird error
17:11:12 <pascal`> you have a second to look at some code?
17:11:49 <jmiranda> sure
17:12:28 <pascal`> jmiranda, context: working on the program location module, I need to replace the portlet controller to do some stuff
17:12:32 <pascal`> jmiranda, code: http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs-modules/programlocation/metadata/moduleApplicationContext.xml?rev=11429
17:12:36 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/4gJg> (at dev.openmrs.org)
17:12:54 <pascal`> jmiranda, issue: sometimes the controller is being replaced, sometimes not
17:13:25 <pascal`> when I install the module, it seems to work (but doesn't for Evan), but when I restart OpenMRS, it uses the old controller again
17:13:44 <pascal`> I though setting the order property should be enough
17:14:02 <pascal`> oh, more context: I'm using OpenMRS 1.5.0 Build 10342
17:14:48 <pascal`> also, I've changed the order to 1 (instead of 42, still seeing the same results)
17:15:27 <jmiranda> ok, let me take a look
17:16:22 <pascal`> thanks
17:16:51 <pascal`> can I mail you the module to see if it's also b0rked for you?
17:17:58 <jmiranda> check the moduleApplicationContext.xml inside the omod to see if it has the changes you expect
17:18:07 <jmiranda> and sure, send me the module
17:18:24 <pascal`> sent it to your omod
17:18:35 <pascal`> well, even an order of 42 should work
17:18:54 <pascal`> and it was working for me while I was developing, but stopped when I restarted OpenMRS
17:20:11 <Echidna> overriding another controller?
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17:24:23 <pascal`> Echidna?
17:24:41 <jmiranda> pascal`, he was wondering if you were trying to override a controller
17:25:37 <Echidna> wat
17:25:44 <pascal`> s/replace/override
17:25:59 <Echidna> well you dont remove the old one from the system, do you?`
17:29:05 <jmiranda> yeah, it's overriding
17:29:25 <jmiranda> both controllers are in memory
17:29:40 <jmiranda> spring has to be configured to know which one to use
17:29:45 <jmiranda> which is where the order value comes in
17:30:13 <pascal`> well
17:30:16 <pascal`> in theory
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17:36:49 <jmiranda> pascal`, still waiting for that module
17:36:53 <jmiranda> where did you send it?
17:36:58 <pascal`> pih account
17:37:02 <jmiranda> oh
17:37:03 <pascal`> where do yo want it?
17:37:33 <jmiranda> no that's fine
17:38:26 <jmiranda> i just don't use @pih.org very often because our smtp server doesn't let me send mail
17:38:31 <jmiranda> but that's fine
17:38:33 <jmiranda> i've got it
17:38:59 <pascal`> which account do you prefer?
17:40:49 <pascal`> anyway, I just centralize all my accounts through gmail, makes everything really easy
17:41:14 <jmiranda> don't worry, i'll just ask any time i can't find an email
17:41:35 <jmiranda> anyway, try deleting the module from openmrs
17:41:47 <Echidna> pascal`: how does that work
17:41:58 <jmiranda> then going into the tomcat directory and removing "work" and "temp"
17:42:05 <jmiranda> (stopping tomcat first)
17:42:08 <Echidna> and also, does that mean google gets to read all your email, not jsut those mails sent via google?
17:42:12 <jmiranda> then starting it back up
17:42:23 <pascal`> yeah i've tried that
17:42:37 <pascal`> it does work, some of the time, just not everytime, which is weird
17:42:54 <pascal`> i'll see if I can get consistent results now tho
17:42:57 <pascal`> mkulumadzi, ^
17:43:07 <pascal`> Echidna, yeah, I guess google can mine my emails
17:43:58 <pascal`> I don't really mind if they do, I have nothing to hide, plus they give me an awesome free service. And the benefit of doing that (centralizing my accounts) is that I can access all my mail, anytime, from anywhere (without need an offline client)
17:44:05 <Echidna> o_O
17:44:36 <Echidna> would you install a google telescreen in your home?
17:45:52 <pascal`> what would it do?
17:46:13 <jmiranda> Echidna, yes
17:46:23 <jmiranda> wait, what's a telescreen
17:46:25 <mkulumadzi> hey pascal`
17:46:45 <Echidna> jmiranda: like in 1984
17:46:46 <pascal`> mkulumadzi, just pointing out justin's advice with that module
17:46:52 <jmiranda> pascal`, i can't tell if this is an issue with spring, the module framework, or tomcat
17:47:01 <Echidna> monitors that display propaganda while being able to watch you
17:47:13 <jmiranda> Echidna, oh totally
17:47:16 <jmiranda> those are rad
17:47:23 <pascal`> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telescreen <- I see
17:47:34 <jmiranda> so we'll have to explore this a bit more if you continue to see it
17:47:46 <jmiranda> i noticed this post on a spring forum
17:47:51 <Mkop> I have all my email accounts forward to gmail
17:49:07 <jmiranda> that says it works in 2.0 but not in 2.5 (http://forum.springsource.org/showthread.php?t=51281)
17:49:12 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/4gKR> (at forum.springsource.org)
17:49:22 <jmiranda> but that the order column should rectify the problem
17:49:53 <jmiranda> actually that forum post isn't really helpful
17:50:06 <jmiranda> because the person did get it to work after adding the order value
17:50:29 <pascal`> hmm
17:50:38 <pascal`> I wondering is specify a more specific URL might work
17:51:12 <pascal`> do you know what happens if there are two mappings, one with **/meh.portlet and one with **/admin/meh.portlet?
17:51:15 <pascal`> *if
17:51:22 <jmiranda> pascal`, i assume "patientProgramPortlet" and "patientProgramFormController" are unique
17:51:36 <jmiranda> i was thinking that too
17:51:46 <pascal`> yeah I think they're unique
17:51:48 <pascal`> although
17:51:50 <pascal`> let me check
17:51:52 <jmiranda> try the full url
17:52:04 <jmiranda> minus the context
17:52:33 <pascal`> if they weren't unique, that could explain it
17:53:01 <pascal`> lmk if the module works for you jmiranda
17:53:24 <jmiranda> i checked openmrs-servlet.xml and i didn't see "patientProgramPortlet"
17:53:46 <jmiranda> but i only took a cursory glance
17:54:15 <pascal`> it's the other one that's the problem anyway
17:54:42 <jmiranda> patientProgramsPortletController isn't in openmrs-servlet.xml
17:54:45 <mkulumadzi> ok pascal`
17:54:50 <mkulumadzi> did that work for you?
17:54:53 <jmiranda> but patientProgramsFormController is
17:55:28 <jmiranda> nm
17:55:39 <jmiranda> it's patientProgramsFormController in openmrs-servlet.xml
17:55:45 <pascal`> sweet
17:55:48 <pascal`> yeah that could be it
17:55:51 <jmiranda> so you're all set
17:55:54 <jmiranda> no
17:56:19 <jmiranda> in your moduleApplicationContext.xml, it's patientProgramFormController
17:56:25 <jmiranda> (minus the 's')
17:56:52 <pascal`> i find mine (without the s) in openmrs-servlet.xml
17:58:56 <pascal`> that's in 1.5.x (prob not synch'd to the latest though)
18:00:24 <jmiranda> pascal`, moral of the story ... make the difference in id's obvious
18:00:39 <jmiranda> prepend with the name of the module or something
18:00:55 <jmiranda> that's usually pretty long, but even the initials would be fine
18:01:02 <pascal`> yup yup
18:01:06 <jmiranda> pascal`, i got it to work on the first install
18:01:08 <pascal`> n00b mistake
18:01:10 <jmiranda> restarting tomcat
18:01:22 <pascal`> ok wait, but, does it actually work
18:01:39 <pascal`> jmiranda, when you entroll a patient in a new program AND select a location, is the location saved?
18:01:42 <jmiranda> i see the location column and select list
18:01:45 <pascal`> then, can you edit it afterwards?
18:01:51 <pascal`> yeah, but that's not the prob
18:02:07 <jmiranda> it should
18:02:11 <jmiranda> i saw the column get created
18:02:14 <jmiranda> let me chekc
18:02:14 <pascal`> the prob is, if the mapping doesn't work, the location isn't saved on a new enrollment
18:02:16 <pascal`> yeah
18:02:20 <pascal`> that all works
18:02:36 <jmiranda> got it
18:02:39 <jmiranda> yeah, so it saves
18:02:44 <pascal`> sweet
18:02:44 <jmiranda> but not with the location
18:02:47 <jmiranda> :)
18:02:51 <pascal`> but that doesn't actually solve it
18:02:52 <jmiranda> sorry
18:03:05 <pascal`> let me see if i change the id if it works every time (=
18:03:17 <pascal`> oic
18:03:29 <jmiranda> yeah
18:03:33 <pascal`> i'll do another build quick
18:03:36 <jmiranda> i'll check the code i'm running
18:04:04 * jmiranda is starting to get hungry
18:04:50 <jmiranda> so in the 1.5.x code i'm running, i do see this
18:04:51 <jmiranda> <prop key="admin/programs/patientProgram.form">patientProgramFormController</prop>
18:05:02 <pascal`> yeah
18:05:04 <jmiranda> is assume that's the form
18:05:19 <jmiranda> so if we change your module to something else, this *should* be fixed
18:05:23 <pascal`> yeah, the form is used for a new enrollment
18:05:32 <pascal`> yeah, i'm just testing that hypothesis
18:05:57 <jmiranda> with a "kick tomcat" added in for effect
18:06:15 <jmiranda> i think i might add that as an ant target
18:06:43 <pascal`> jmiranda, my widget dashboard is telling me it's -16 degrees (celcius) in Madison, is that right?
18:06:52 <pascal`> that's colder than Oslo
18:06:59 <jmiranda> "kick-tomcat" = rm -rf $tomcat_home/temp $tomcat_home/work
18:07:08 <jmiranda> yeah, that's without the windchill
18:07:15 <pascal`> yeah, that's not a bad target
18:07:19 <pascal`> =O
18:07:22 <jmiranda> temp just went up 5 degrees F though!
18:07:41 <jmiranda> from -2* F to 3* F
18:07:46 <pascal`> that's crazy cold dude
18:07:54 <jmiranda> which means i will be leaving the house to get lunch today
18:08:05 <pascal`> the lowest it gets here is like -2C
18:08:15 <jmiranda> we just got something like 18 inches of snow yesterday
18:08:19 <pascal`> ok, prob a bit colder at the top of the highest mountains
18:08:54 <jmiranda> yeah ... it was pretty cold in cape town when we were there
18:09:08 <jmiranda> granted, it was closer to 40 F
18:09:38 <pascal`> out climate is extremely temperate
18:09:49 <pascal`> what state is Madison in?
18:09:53 <jmiranda> but here at least my landlord keeps the building around 70 F
18:09:57 <jmiranda> Wisconsin
18:09:58 <pascal`> (sorry, it's proably obvious)
18:10:07 <bwolfe> jmiranda: did you go join that 3000 person snowball fight in madison? http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=0z&pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=madison+snowball+fight
18:10:14 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/4gL4> (at news.google.com)
18:10:14 <pascal`> ok, that's a pretty decent temp
18:10:21 <jmiranda> bwolfe, NO!!
18:10:29 <jmiranda> i was so pissed when i found out about it
18:10:46 <jmiranda> UW cancelled classes for the first time in a century
18:11:00 <pascal`> lol
18:11:05 <jmiranda> and megan had the day off from her med school surgery rotation
18:11:24 <jmiranda> that would have been so much fun
18:11:29 <bwolfe> missed opportunity
18:11:29 <pascal`> i might be coming for a visit to the US soon, so hopefully i'll be able to come see you guys
18:11:41 <jmiranda> yeah let us know when
18:12:00 <jmiranda> it might be easier for you to hit boston or chicago
18:12:10 <jmiranda> so if you're in either of those locations let me know
18:12:26 <pascal`> i think i'll be coming to indiana
18:12:41 <pascal`> i've been instructed to stand behind bwolfe and crack the whip
18:12:46 <pascal`> ;P
18:13:29 <jmiranda> "For the first time in history with records dating back to 1965, the University of Wisconsin cancelled today’s classes due to extreme blizzard conditions."
18:13:42 <jmiranda> this is a state that averages like 100 feet of snow a week
18:13:49 <jmiranda> (exaggeration)
18:13:57 <jmiranda> pascal`, :)
18:14:24 <jmiranda> if there's one person who doesn't need a whipped cracked over his/her head ... it's bwolfe
18:14:24 <pascal`> indiana ans wisconsin seem pretty close to each othe
18:14:32 <jmiranda> about 5 hour drive
18:14:50 <jmiranda> i did the drive in the first month i moved here
18:15:10 <pascal`> that's close enough, i'll so that
18:15:14 <jmiranda> decided i'd rather fly if the opportunity ever arose again
18:15:19 <pascal`> what else cool is about that far from indiana?
18:15:48 <pascal`> i dont mind driving that distance, kinda used to it, Jodi has a holiday house about that distance away, so we've done it loads of times
18:15:50 <jmiranda> chicago might be close
18:15:51 <bwolfe> some great amusement parks...if you're here between may and aug
18:16:25 <jmiranda> pascal`, are you coming for work or holiday?
18:16:26 <bwolfe> downtown chicago is 3 hours from indy
18:16:34 <pascal`> it will most likely be in that time frame
18:17:06 <pascal`> it's not definite yet, but it would be work, /if/ (big if) it happens
18:17:24 <jmiranda> i might be in S.A. at that time
18:17:39 <pascal`> jmiranda, what for?
18:17:41 <jmiranda> that's also a big IF
18:17:45 <jmiranda> world cup
18:18:22 <pascal`> oh, that's june - july though
18:18:27 <jmiranda> probably in late june / early july if i can raise some money for it
18:18:31 <pascal`> guess that fits in the may - august timeframe
18:18:51 <jmiranda> :)
18:18:53 <pascal`> well, I was at the group draw party the other night...
18:18:55 <pascal`> oh
18:18:55 <jmiranda> bwolfe, holy crap
18:18:56 <pascal`> my
18:18:58 <pascal`> gahd
18:19:03 <pascal`> (=
18:19:03 <jmiranda> you guys really our the crossroads of america
18:20:10 <jmiranda> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=indianapolis,+in&sll=39.76987,-86.15617&sspn=0.039781,0.111494&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Indianapolis,+Marion,+Indiana&ll=39.761575,-86.156158&spn=0.65873,1.783905&z=10
18:20:12 <bwolfe> jmiranda: looking at google maps ? did you just think that was a cute saying?
18:20:12 <jmiranda> that's pretty cool
18:20:14 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/4gLJ> (at maps.google.com)
18:20:23 <pascal`> oh i see where chicago is, nice, lake michigin
18:20:35 <jmiranda> i just didn't realize how many cities you can get to from indy
18:20:54 <bwolfe> I'm sitting /JUST/ to the left of the "A" in that push pin
18:21:11 <bwolfe> jmiranda: yeah, we're spoiled that way
18:21:12 <pascal`> man i was hoping to be able to check out Sin City.. but that looks waaay to far away
18:21:32 <bwolfe> st louis is 5 hours, cincinnatti is 2 hours, columbus is 2.5 hours, chicago 3 hours
18:21:37 <pascal`> guys, how expensive are domestic flights?
18:21:46 <jmiranda> i mean, i can't complain about madison
18:21:52 <jmiranda> we've got milwaukee
18:21:56 <jmiranda> minnesota
18:22:02 <jmiranda> chicago
18:22:05 <jmiranda> rockford
18:22:16 <jmiranda> dubuque
18:22:28 <bwolfe> dubugue?!
18:22:46 <jmiranda> plover
18:22:49 <jmiranda> stevens point
18:22:54 <jmiranda> black river falls
18:23:00 <jmiranda> eau claire
18:23:09 <jmiranda> all fine destinations
18:23:15 <jmiranda> back in the 1800s
18:23:22 <bwolfe> and most of those cities have more than 20 people !
18:23:26 <jmiranda> ooh, chippewa falls
18:23:28 <jmiranda> i like that one
18:23:39 <jmiranda> no
18:23:42 <jmiranda> actually, they don't
18:25:08 <jmiranda> kidding, but it is kind of funny to drive through an hour outside of madison through town after town with signs highlighting populations of 1000 - 2000
18:25:34 <jmiranda> ok, i'm going to get some food and then get back to something for darius
18:26:04 <jmiranda> pascal`, if you're still running into trouble, create a ticket and we'll try to look at this together later today or tomorrow
18:26:30 <pascal`> jmiranda, cool, just finishing up the testing
18:31:05 <jmiranda> bwolfe, what is it major.minor.(maintenance?)
18:32:09 <bwolfe> yeah
18:32:38 <bwolfe> jmiranda: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Versioning
18:33:07 <jmiranda> thanks, i was feeling lazy
18:33:17 <jmiranda> next time don't answer me :)
18:37:19 <Mkop> 3000 person snowball fight?! that's AMAZING!
18:37:29 <Mkop> (gotta love the scrollback)
18:38:26 <Mkop> from where I am, downtown philly is about a 20 minute walk, NYC is 2 hours, Washington DC is 2 hours, Baltimore is 2 hours, Boston is 6 hours, ....
18:38:32 <Mkop> I think that beats Indy
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18:42:25 <jmiranda> a 2 hour walk to nyc?
18:42:28 <jmiranda> wow, nice
18:43:13 <pascal`> from where i am it's 6 hours to the south pole
18:43:15 <pascal`> can't beat that
18:44:16 <jmiranda> Mkop, but you're also about 35 minutes from delaware
18:44:17 <jmiranda> tops
18:44:31 <jmiranda> and jersey ain't that far away either
18:44:42 <Mkop> I'm listing places that are worth visiting.
18:45:32 <Mkop> The sentence, "I'm going on vacation to NJ" is always followed with "to visit my _____"
18:45:33 <Echidna> i can be in holland in 3h, france in ~5, poland in ~4 or so
18:45:35 <Echidna> beat that
18:45:39 <jmiranda> yeah, i'm just pointing out that philly is more like the deodorant of america
18:45:47 <pascal`> Echidna, I'm with you
18:45:50 <jmiranda> not really the crossroads
18:45:53 <jmiranda> :)
18:46:02 <jmiranda> Echidna, thanks
18:46:15 <jmiranda> that's where it's like to be
18:46:17 <pascal`> africa ftw
18:46:40 <jmiranda> Mkop, i'm kidding ... philly's a very fine city
18:46:44 <jmiranda> you've got ...
18:46:46 <Mkop> pascal` is a 30 minute walk from 2 different oceans.
18:46:47 <jmiranda> the phillies
18:46:56 <jmiranda> and philly cheesesteaks
18:47:10 <jmiranda> hmmm
18:47:19 <jmiranda> penn, i guess
18:47:23 <pascal`> cheesesteak ftl
18:47:27 <pascal`> jmiranda, check this:
18:47:29 <Mkop> liberty bell
18:47:32 <Mkop> constitution hall
18:47:35 <jmiranda> YES!
18:47:39 <jmiranda> the liberty bell
18:47:40 <Mkop> me
18:47:50 <jmiranda> it's clean
18:47:51 <jmiranda> ish
18:47:52 <pascal`> java.lang.NullPointerException
18:47:52 <pascal`> at org.openmrs.module.report.service.BaseReportService.deleteOldReportRequests(BaseReportService.java:621)
18:48:45 <jmiranda> could you create a ticket for that in jira
18:48:55 <jmiranda> i've seen that a few times but never bothered to create the ticket
18:49:13 <Echidna> is liberty bell another fast food chain?
18:49:14 <pascal`> will do
18:49:27 <jmiranda> Echidna, it's the symbol of american freedom
18:49:33 <Echidna> i know, j/k =P
18:49:37 <jmiranda> :)
18:49:41 <Mkop> lol
18:49:48 <jmiranda> pascal`, there's a workaround
18:49:49 <pascal`> go team america
18:49:54 <Mkop> Echidna: question: is the g sound in German sometimes a sh?
18:50:06 <pascal`> jmiranda, yeah, the workaround is turing off the scheduled task
18:50:06 <Mkop> or rather, is the g in German sometimes an sh sound?
18:50:06 <Echidna> hm
18:50:07 <pascal`> (=
18:50:09 <Echidna> not sh
18:50:13 <Echidna> like kh
18:50:14 <Echidna> but soft
18:50:19 <jmiranda> pascal`, there's that
18:50:37 <Mkop> I've been listening to Schubert lately
18:50:43 <Mkop> Erlko:nig
18:50:51 <jmiranda> yeah, do that ... i thought this was an issue with the .request file no longer being compatible with the API classes
18:50:59 <Echidna> hm
18:50:59 <jmiranda> so you need to delete them yourself
18:51:07 <Echidna> is that a composition's name?
18:51:27 <jmiranda> bwolfe, can we make the serializer ignore incompatible classes?
18:51:36 <Echidna> because i only know the meaning of "Erlkönig" that stands for pre-release prototypes of cars, disguised to not draw attention for test drives
18:51:37 <jmiranda> rather than throw exceptions
18:51:44 <jmiranda> *can* = should we
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18:52:21 <pascal`> maybe just not throw exception
18:52:23 <pascal`> s
18:52:27 <Echidna> Mkop: some people who cant pronounce it right actually do say "sh"
18:52:31 <Echidna> and some dialects too
18:52:32 <pascal`> at least not NPEs
18:52:51 <jmiranda> i don't want it to be a silent ignore, but rather create a wrapper class that shows the error to the user
18:52:59 <jmiranda> i.e. IncompatibleDataSetDefinition
18:53:28 <Mkop> Echidna: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XP5RP6OEJI
18:53:34 <Echidna> The term ich-Laut refers to the voiceless palatal fricative [ç], the term ach-Laut to the voiceless velar fricative [x]. In German, these two sounds are allophones occurring in complementary distribution. The allophone [x] occurs after back vowels and /a a?/ (for instance in Buch [bu?x] ‘book’), the allophone [ç] after front vowels (for instance in ich [?ç] ‘I’) and consonants (for instance in Furcht [f?rçt] ‘fear’) (Kohler 1977, 1990; Wiese 1996: 210).
18:53:35 <Echidna> lol wat
18:53:53 <jmiranda> pascal`, yeah, i guess we could make sure the error gets all the way back to the user
18:54:03 <jmiranda> now it seems like it's being suppressed somewhere
18:54:10 <pascal`> is it a user error though?
18:54:13 <jmiranda> so when you load a page of serialized objects where one has an error
18:54:17 <jmiranda> the page is empty
18:54:25 <pascal`> i'm not 100% sure what the problem is yet though
18:54:30 <jmiranda> that's kind of why i want it to be wrapped
18:54:34 <pascal`> yeah, that shouldn't happen
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18:54:41 <jmiranda> we can just show the XML of the object
18:54:56 <jmiranda> in the IncompatibleDataSetDefinition form
18:55:05 <jmiranda> and allow the user to edit if they feel confident they can fix it
18:55:13 <Echidna> Mkop: oh, i thought that was just a poem
18:55:14 <Echidna> not a song
18:55:26 <Mkop> it was a poem first
18:55:31 <Mkop> then Schubert wrote it as a song
18:56:18 <Echidna> lol classic singing is funny
18:56:21 <Echidna> how they use the rolling R
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18:56:26 <Echidna> like hitler
18:56:51 <pascal`> a few things about the sheduler...
18:57:06 <Mkop> the quote you put only talks about how ch is the hard ch like Bach as well as soft like ich (which I was wondering about)
18:57:11 <Mkop> it didn't mention anything about g
18:57:13 <pascal`> you have to start and stop a task, for schedule changes to take effect (manually)
18:57:31 <pascal`> you dont have the option, on the home screen, to run a task immediately
18:58:09 <Echidna> Mkop: yes, in "erlkönig" it sounds like the latter
18:58:37 <jmiranda> pascal`, when you make a change to the schedule you mean?
18:58:55 <pascal`> jmiranda, yeah
18:58:58 <jmiranda> yeah, that was a bad design decision on my part ... chase brought that up about a year ago
18:59:31 <pascal`> quick addition (not that anyone has time tho =\)
19:00:00 <jmiranda> and i defended my decision ... but now i realize it's not intuitive at all
19:00:02 <pascal`> just need to automatically restart the job
19:00:25 <jmiranda> there's should at least be a flag next to the task in the list to say (schedule has changed, needs a restart)
19:00:29 <pascal`> intro tickets can be created for that tho
19:00:34 <jmiranda> yeah
19:00:38 <jmiranda> i think there is one
19:00:40 <jmiranda> search it out
19:00:48 <pascal`> well, it's as easy to put in a flag as is it is to just restart it
19:00:56 <jmiranda> yeah
19:01:11 <jmiranda> i was saying i should have had some indicator that told the user to restart
19:01:15 <jmiranda> but now i'm with you
19:01:25 <jmiranda> it should just be restarted when the schedule changes
19:04:12 <jmiranda> ok, i'm really leaving now
19:04:17 <jmiranda> be back in a few
19:04:20 * jmiranda is away: and i'm audi 5
19:05:19 <Echidna> you have an audi A5? =o
19:05:25 <pascal`> jmiranda, Jira ticket RPT-283
19:05:33 <pascal`> yeah, also been wondering about the Audi 5
19:05:39 <pascal`> those new S5's are sweet
19:06:34 <Echidna> i bet they are
19:08:07 <Echidna> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Audi_S5_front_20080703.jpg
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19:09:51 <pascal`> was just looking for a cool pic
19:10:47 <jmiranda> Echidna, "i'm audi 5" = kool keith lyric
19:10:49 <jmiranda> pascal`, thanks
19:10:50 <jmiranda> later
19:11:06 <pascal`> later
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