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| 00:57:22 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #773 (defect closed): Cohort Builder searches using multiselects are all broken <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/773#comment:4> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [9642]: 1.5.x branch: fixing #773 (again) <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/9642> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [9641]: fixing #773 (again) <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/9641> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [9640]: 1.4.x branch: fixing #773 (again) <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/9640> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [9639]: 1.4.x branch: fixing #773 (again) <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/9639> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [9638]: amrsregistration: ui tweak <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/9638> |
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| 02:41:48 | <r0bby> Mkop: sup :) |
| 02:41:59 | <Mkop> hey, r0bby |
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| 02:52:20 | <Mkop> mr? |
| 03:30:26 | <r0bby> YEH |
| 03:30:30 | <r0bby> got a problem w/ it?! |
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| 11:17:40 | <pascal`> hey jmiranda |
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| 11:37:56 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Robby O'Connor: Project Update <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/robbyoconnor/~3/MMnPuoahdiI/project-update.html> |
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| 11:44:34 | <callo> hey |
| 11:45:01 | <pascal`> hi callo |
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| 11:45:22 | <nribeka> hi callo & pascal` |
| 11:45:31 | <callo> hey pascal' i have just installed openmrs and i had a few questions |
| 11:45:34 | <pascal`> hey nribeka |
| 11:45:46 | <pascal`> well callo, this is the right place to ask |
| 11:47:00 | <callo> i am trying to enable the module upload page to allow to upload modules and i saw that you need to set the module.allow_web_admin to true and saved and then reloaded the openmrs war and restarted but when i go to the module properties page it says that i still can't upload modules |
| 11:47:19 | <callo> any help would be appreciated |
| 11:47:42 | <pascal`> my guess is that openmrs isn't loading the properties file that you think it is |
| 11:48:15 | <pascal`> when you start up tomcat, check the logs, it should tell you what properties file it's using |
| 11:48:28 | <callo> huh allright |
| 11:48:36 | <pascal`> make sure that the file you're editing, is the one being loaded by openmrs |
| 11:49:49 | <callo> yeah you are right |
| 11:49:59 | <pascal`> take a look at http://openmrs.org/wiki/Overriding_OpenMRS_Default_Properties for some more info |
| 11:50:00 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1iOw> (at openmrs.org) |
| 11:50:21 | <callo> no that is where i originally copied the runtime files to |
| 11:54:28 | <jmiranda> hey pascal` |
| 11:57:57 | <pascal`> jmiranda, is there any documentation about the new 1.5 reporting framework? |
| 11:58:09 | <pascal`> callo, have you sorted out the issue? |
| 11:59:08 | <callo> yeah i did |
| 11:59:11 | <callo> i hate windows |
| 11:59:24 | <callo> so when i created the openmrs-runtime.properties |
| 11:59:37 | <callo> windows saved it as openmrs-runtime.properties.txt |
| 11:59:44 | <pascal`> oic |
| 12:00:10 | <pascal`> yeah, i usually turn off "hide file extensions of know file type" in tools >> folder options |
| 12:00:26 | <pascal`> because that behaviour (what you've just described) is rediculous |
| 12:00:47 | <jmiranda> pascal`, nothing substantial |
| 12:01:49 | <callo> yeah pascal' that is what i did |
| 12:02:35 | <jmiranda> pascal`, your best bet would be to dive into some of the tests and see how we're using the API |
| 12:02:48 | <jmiranda> pascal`, and ask questions |
| 12:03:08 | <pascal`> ok thanks, I'll do both of those (= |
| 12:03:11 | <jmiranda> i was hoping to spend august documenting the API, but we got stuck on some serialization issues |
| 12:03:17 | <jmiranda> so i'm a little behind |
| 12:03:41 | <pascal`> is it feature complete? |
| 12:04:04 | <pascal`> i don't really want to attempt to learn an api if it's going to be changing a lot |
| 12:06:55 | <pascal`> http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs/trunk/src/api/org/openmrs/reporting |
| 12:06:59 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3nI-> (at dev.openmrs.org) |
| 12:07:02 | <pascal`> ^ is that what I should be looking at? |
| 12:09:00 | <jmiranda> pascal`, the API is pretty set |
| 12:09:23 | <jmiranda> there's definitely more implementations of cohort definitions and dataset definitions in the works |
| 12:09:37 | <jmiranda> but the general idea is that a report contains a dataset |
| 12:09:44 | <jmiranda> sorry, dataset definition |
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| 12:10:25 | <pascal`> hi bwolfe |
| 12:10:31 | <jmiranda> and when you evaluate a report, the system evaluates the dataset definitions of the report and renders them according to your specification |
| 12:10:39 | <nribeka> bwolfe |
| 12:10:50 | <jmiranda> nribeka, in that regard ("rendering"), there's still a lot to be done |
| 12:10:55 | <bwolfe> hi pascal` and nribeka |
| 12:11:07 | <jmiranda> good morning bwolfe |
| 12:11:08 | <pascal`> jmiranda, ok, well, I think I need to do some reading just to be able to understand what you just said |
| 12:11:20 | <jmiranda> we've been focusing on the indicator reports for the time being |
| 12:11:30 | <pascal`> so, can you recommend any preliminary reading before i get lost in the api? |
| 12:11:35 | <jmiranda> which is good for you, since i think most of your reports for evan will likely be indicator reports |
| 12:12:01 | <pascal`> quite a few will be, yes |
| 12:12:31 | <jmiranda> pascal`, but we'll have to get BIRT in there as another renderer soon |
| 12:12:41 | <jmiranda> honestly, looking at the test cases will be the best way to learn how to use the API |
| 12:12:53 | <jmiranda> start with some simple examples |
| 12:13:12 | <jmiranda> like building and evaluating a cohort definition |
| 12:15:54 | <pascal`> ok |
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| 12:23:32 | <jmiranda> pascal`, and by "test cases" i mean the ones in the reporting module |
| 12:24:20 | <jmiranda> pascal`, i'll start documenting, but ask questions so i know what to document |
| 12:24:27 | <pascal`> is this correct: openmrs/branches/1.5.x/test/api/org/openmrs/reporting ? |
| 12:25:07 | <pascal`> well my first question is, how is the design (architecture) different from just using openmrs with the birt module (which I've done) |
| 12:25:28 | <jmiranda> pascal`, checkout the reporting module |
| 12:25:50 | <jmiranda> that's where the API and implementations are |
| 12:26:18 | <jmiranda> pascal`, http://svn.openmrs.org/openmrs-modules/reporting/trunk/ |
| 12:26:20 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3nIW> (at svn.openmrs.org) |
| 12:26:26 | <pascal`> aha, ok |
| 12:26:50 | <pascal`> thanks, that's the path I was looking for |
| 12:27:09 | <pascal`> ok, so it's still a module |
| 12:38:04 | <jmiranda> pascal`, sorry ... yes, it's still a module |
| 12:38:24 | <pascal`> does it have anything to do with BIRT? |
| 12:39:29 | <jmiranda> pascal`, not yet |
| 12:39:39 | <jmiranda> eventually BIRT will become a Renderer |
| 12:40:14 | <jmiranda> in other words, the OpenMRS report engine will generate/evaluate multiple datasets |
| 12:40:31 | <jmiranda> and BIRT will use those datasets like it does currently |
| 12:40:52 | <jmiranda> we'll eventually get to a point where BIRT can query openmrs directly (through the logic web service) |
| 12:42:45 | <pascal`> ok so are the report just generated as html? |
| 12:43:05 | <pascal`> *reports |
| 12:43:08 | <jmiranda> right now, it's csv, tsv, and i think xls |
| 12:43:12 | <pascal`> if so, how are the layouts specified? |
| 12:43:17 | <jmiranda> depending on which renderer you instantiate |
| 12:43:40 | <jmiranda> and there's very limited layout capabilities at this point |
| 12:44:10 | <jmiranda> we're concentrating on the guts first |
| 12:44:37 | <jmiranda> most people can deal with getting an indicator report as XLS or a data export as CSV |
| 12:45:01 | <jmiranda> but we're planning to support custom templates for at least the indicator report |
| 12:45:02 | <pascal`> (sorry if these questions are rudimentary, I just have no idea what's been going on in terms of reporting development) |
| 12:45:15 | <jmiranda> pascal`, no these are good questions |
| 12:51:04 | <pascal`> ok I see |
| 12:51:29 | <pascal`> "eventually" <- should I count on this happening in the next six months? |
| 12:52:10 | <pascal`> or should I find an alternative renderer for the PIH Malawi project? |
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| 12:59:39 | <bwolfe> I guess he was done with you jmiranda :-p |
| 13:00:07 | <jmiranda> :) |
| 13:01:02 | <jmiranda> i had no idea he wrote anything |
| 13:01:28 | <jmiranda> most of the time, i only look at IRC when my nick is referenced |
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| 13:01:45 | <jmiranda> hey [-Haza-] |
| 13:01:50 | <jmiranda> didn't see you there |
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| 13:09:37 | <pascal`> heh, no I got disconnected |
| 13:09:50 | <pascal`> I'll prefix with ur nick in future jmiranda |
| 13:10:02 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1713 (task closed): the big getObservations method in HibernateObsDAO should use Restrictions methods ge and le rather than gt and lt on date parameters <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1713#comment:4> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1713 (task reopened): the big getObservations method in HibernateObsDAO should use Restrictions methods ge and le rather than gt and lt on date parameters <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1713#comment:3> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [9647]: schedulerquartz: slight change <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/9647> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [9646]: schedulerquartz: minor modifications <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/9646> |
| 13:10:36 | <jmiranda> thanks pascal` |
| 13:10:36 | <jmiranda> to answer your question, the BIRT renderer should be ready within the next few months |
| 13:10:38 | <jmiranda> but that's up to darius and the team |
| 13:11:10 | <jmiranda> pascal`, let's figure out how you want to handle the reports |
| 13:11:37 | <jmiranda> if they are dataset-centric (like spitting out a list of patients or producing tables / graphs) |
| 13:11:46 | <jmiranda> then we need to get BIRT in the mix sooner rather than later |
| 13:11:52 | <jmiranda> however, if they are inidicator-based |
| 13:12:04 | <jmiranda> then you'll be fine with what we have and we can leave BIRT out |
| 13:12:06 | <jmiranda> (for now) |
| 13:12:34 | <jmiranda> so when you have some time this week |
| 13:12:48 | <jmiranda> let's take one of the reports you need to do and discuss a strategy |
| 13:13:22 | <jmiranda> and i'll *try* to point you in the right direction |
| 13:20:08 | <pascal`> ok thanks, jmiranda |
| 13:20:20 | <pascal`> jmiranda: PIH Malawi does require some non indicator reports |
| 13:20:22 | <pascal`> jmiranda: but I think I can just develop those in the mean time using the BIRT module |
| 13:20:26 | <pascal`> jmiranda: those .rptdesign's should be compatible with the reporting framework when it's done, right? |
| 13:20:30 | <pascal`> jmiranda: I mean, I'll just be accessing the database directly any case, at least for the simple ones |
| 13:20:53 | <jmiranda> pascal`, let's discuss those when you get to them |
| 13:20:58 | <jmiranda> or sooner |
| 13:21:03 | <jmiranda> they will be supported |
| 13:21:22 | <jmiranda> but i'd rather we not go the SQL route if we can build you a dataset that works for your needs |
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| 13:22:41 | <jmiranda> i would rather spend a week writing code for a new dataset than have you spend a week writing SQL to get a report working |
| 13:22:46 | <jmiranda> pascal`, i'll be right back |
| 13:23:35 | <pascal`> jmiranda, ok, we'll talk |
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| 13:30:09 | <jmiranda> pascal`, yeah ... let's plan to talk later this week when you've started looking over the reports and the API |
| 13:30:14 | <jmiranda> especially if you feel overwhelmed |
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| 13:30:57 | <jmiranda> pascal`, there's a lot of nooks and crannies, and one especially steep hill to climb |
| 13:31:14 | <jmiranda> so don't hesitate to kick us and ask for help |
| 13:31:17 | <pascal`> jmiranda, alright cool |
| 13:35:41 | <pascal`> jmiranda, you may the one getting overwhelmed.... |
| 13:35:41 | <pascal`> with questions from me :D |
| 13:35:51 | <jmiranda> :) |
| 13:35:55 | <jmiranda> never |
| 13:36:10 | <jmiranda> i love this part of development |
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| 13:40:16 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [9650]: ncd: Removed unused import from DecidedResultStorageHelper. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/9650> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [9649]: ncd: Added/refactored code to handle message re-processing. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/9649> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [9648]: amrsregistration: workflow fix for the 'assign id' page <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/9648> |
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| 13:49:06 | <upul> Hi bwolfe |
| 13:49:22 | <bwolfe> hey upul |
| 13:49:45 | <pascal`> hey upul |
| 13:49:45 | <pascal`> jmiranda, is there a BIRT module built for 1.5? |
| 13:49:53 | <jmiranda> pascal`, not yet |
| 13:50:08 | <upul> bwolfe, what sort projects are there? |
| 13:50:11 | <upul> hi pascal` |
| 13:50:49 | <bwolfe> upul: do you mean "what sort of projects are available" ? |
| 13:50:56 | <upul> yes |
| 13:51:06 | <pascal`> jmiranda, ok, so is it not possible currently to generate a report on 1.5? |
| 13:51:18 | <bwolfe> upul: for a 9-12 month one, its hard to say off the top of my head. :-) |
| 13:51:37 | <bwolfe> upul: it would probably involve adding functionality...like what Echidna did for the diabetes management |
| 13:51:44 | <jmiranda> pascal`, you can use the reportingcompatibility module + birt in 1.5 |
| 13:52:00 | <bwolfe> upul: but you said its not necessarily focused around coding, right? |
| 13:52:48 | <upul> bwolfe, yes most of them are are management side topics, but I'm not into that |
| 13:53:35 | <pascal`> ok cool |
| 13:53:42 | <upul> bwolfe, it would be probably ok if I could do something with the data model, enhance something |
| 13:54:58 | <bwolfe> upul: hmm |
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| 13:57:37 | <bwolfe> massive thunderstorm here...power went on and off. bmckown is it bad up by you too? |
| 13:58:36 | <bwolfe> upul: there are a few large data model things that need done (and/or discussed). 1) changing person/user/patient inheritance (theres a ticket for that, and its urgent...so probably not ideal) 2) changing form_field/field or adding form_field attributes 3) ...drawing a blank on other datamodel ones now... |
| 13:59:12 | <bmckown> it looks like rain, bwolfe, but hasn't arrived yet. |
| 13:59:37 | <bmckown> well, slight drizzle. |
| 14:00:53 | <bwolfe> ah, well central indy has a nice big red spot: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=ind&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=no |
| 14:00:59 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3nLb> (at radar.weather.gov) |
| 14:01:04 | <bwolfe> and more red spots coming from the east |
| 14:01:34 | <upul> do you have tornedos |
| 14:03:05 | <bmckown> ooh, how fun. tornadoes!! |
| 14:04:40 | <bmckown> i see the red dots and also on weather channel, but don't see a tornado advisory right now. |
| 14:07:23 | <bwolfe> upul: indy does it get tornadoes...hopefully this storm doesn't bring any! |
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| 14:20:00 | <bmckown> now we have thunder. |
| 14:20:56 | <upul> no lightning? |
| 14:23:10 | <bmckown> yup... now we have lightning too. |
| 14:23:18 | <bmckown> i love rain |
| 14:25:26 | <nribeka> rain ... |
| 14:25:27 | <nribeka> sleep |
| 14:26:29 | <nribeka> bwolfe, i hope there will be no thunder when lunch time come ;) |
| 14:27:21 | <upul> nribeka, your gsoc project was finding duplicate patients? |
| 14:27:48 | <nribeka> yes upul |
| 14:28:17 | <upul> nribeka, around how many patient records did it work with? |
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| 14:28:59 | <nribeka> around 700k at james arbaugh (i think) |
| 14:29:40 | <nribeka> james_regen, i guess no lunch :( |
| 14:30:19 | <upul> nribeka, do you know how long it took, what kind of machines were used for processing? |
| 14:31:03 | <nribeka> it will depends on how many field of the patient record you will process |
| 14:31:52 | <nribeka> and depends on how many configuration (in each configuration you select the field) |
| 14:32:36 | <nribeka> i just remembered james arbaugh mentioned about the memory. i think 2gb of ram |
| 14:34:12 | <upul> nribeka, do you mean match only by first name, last name or something? |
| 14:34:48 | <nribeka> yes sir |
| 14:35:20 | <nribeka> match by credit card number ;) |
| 14:35:34 | <upul> do you know any timing it took to process using whatever fields? |
| 14:35:34 | <nribeka> to figure out if someone use someone else credit card |
| 14:36:00 | <upul> just a sample |
| 14:36:07 | <nribeka> hold on. need to summon james_regen to answer this |
| 14:36:38 | <nribeka> at one point, i think it took a few hours to finish 3 - 4 configuration (with some fields) |
| 14:36:48 | <upul> 700k patients? |
| 14:37:35 | <nribeka> i think i run with 700k patients on one of the RI machine at one point |
| 14:37:55 | <upul> and how did it take? |
| 14:38:12 | <nribeka> around 5 - 6h i think |
| 14:38:23 | <nribeka> i hope i remember it correctly |
| 14:39:13 | <upul> nribeka, is all that code in the patient matching module? |
| 14:39:24 | <nribeka> yes |
| 14:39:38 | <nribeka> you can tweak to improve the time upul :) |
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| 14:39:59 | <upul> i'm looking for research project for my msc |
| 14:41:48 | <nribeka> you can ask shaun grannis about this upul :) |
| 14:41:54 | <nribeka> he might have some ideas |
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| 14:46:51 | <upul> nribeka, does this record matching work in any parallel way in any sort you know of |
| 14:47:19 | <nribeka> paralel way? |
| 14:48:54 | <james_regen> sorry, just noticed the blinking that my name was mentioned |
| 14:49:12 | <upul> nribeka, in the simplest terms how does it do the matching? |
| 14:49:54 | <james_regen> upul: not parrallel at all. it flattens the data to a simple database table, then makes the matches from that |
| 14:50:34 | <upul> james_regen, you mean it read all the records and fill a table first? |
| 14:52:30 | <james_regen> yeah, the current matching code uses a simple object to store the data to match. it would be possible to avoid the scratch table, but i think it was slow when we did that. the quicker path was read out the data once and do the analysis and matching from the exported data than to read every patient multiple times in the process |
| 14:53:01 | <upul> james_regen, are there any docs on the process anywhere? |
| 14:55:56 | <james_regen> not as it's done in the module, i don't think |
| 15:02:45 | <nribeka> we still have some mock up of the process flow i think, right james_regen? |
| 15:04:09 | <james_regen> oh, from the user perspective and user workflow, i think we have stuff. as far as what objects and where data is moving, maybe |
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| 16:27:34 | <nribeka> bwolfe, since when do you use comcast? |
| 16:28:06 | <bwolfe> nribeka: I'm at mcalister's deli |
| 16:28:17 | <bwolfe> nribeka: no power (and no internet) at the house since about 10:30 :-( |
| 16:28:31 | <bwolfe> nribeka: meghan and I are going to camp out here for a while :-D |
| 16:29:00 | <nribeka> haha ... ic ic. interesting. where's is mcalister deli btw? |
| 16:29:38 | <bwolfe> nribeka: up near costco on 86th st |
| 16:29:45 | <nribeka> ugh ... |
| 16:29:47 | <nribeka> ic ic |
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| 16:33:02 | <nribeka> bmckown, at the office? |
| 16:33:10 | <nribeka> bmckown_? |
| 16:33:19 | <bmckown_> hey |
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| 16:37:50 | <bwolfe> nribeka: he is probably just vpn'ing into rg |
| 16:38:36 | <nribeka> ah ic ic. how's mcalister bwolfe :P |
| 16:38:39 | <nribeka> heavy rain here |
| 16:39:15 | <bwolfe> its getting crowded...but I have internet, power, and unlimited fountain diet coke, so I'm happy! :-D |
| 16:42:56 | <[-Haza-]> Hye jmiranda. Hows things? |
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