IRC Chat : 2009-06-28 - OpenMRS

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02:51:25 <r0bby> Mkop :)
02:51:33 <Mkop> hi, r0bby
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04:17:45 <Echidna> r0bby: you fanboi yourself to the most ridiculous stuff on fb
04:17:46 <Echidna> http://www.facebook.com/pages/American-Soldiers/40384104470?ref=nf
04:17:50 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3P5j> (at www.facebook.com)
04:19:03 <Mkop> Echidna: what's ridiculous about that?
04:20:25 <Echidna> read the comments
04:20:31 <Echidna> bunch of retarded hicks
04:20:41 <Echidna> and every other brings up "god"
04:22:44 <Mkop> so because religious people support it, that makes it wrong?
04:23:01 <Echidna> the how and why they support it is wrong
04:23:14 <Echidna> they actually believe the soldiers are doing anyone a service
04:23:26 <Echidna> besides business interest
04:24:10 <Echidna> the military is a tool, there's nothing glorious about it
04:25:21 <Echidna> and the soldiers get fished right of the school yard because they never had any other perspective in live to begin with
04:27:35 <Mkop> what do you know about American soldiers? you don't even live here
04:28:36 <Echidna> yea, americans tend to say that
04:29:00 <Echidna> unlike you guys, people in other countries tend to know what goes on beyond the border
04:33:49 <r0bby> shrug
04:34:01 <r0bby> not supporting troops is what caused vietnam to be a failure
04:34:16 <r0bby> troop morale drops, their chance for survival goes too
04:34:52 <Echidna> i have a suggestion
04:34:56 <Echidna> how about not deploying them in the first place
04:35:26 <Mkop> I have a suggestion
04:35:30 <Mkop> don't discuss politics
04:35:34 <Mkop> b/c it's not gonna go anywhere
04:35:44 <Mkop> i.e. I'm too tired to debate you
04:35:53 <Echidna> i'm tired too =P
04:36:00 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8787]: facility data: some data and domain model changes. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8787>
04:36:10 <Mkop> are you still up at 5:30 AM?
04:36:12 <Echidna> and my intention was more of a provocational nature, not to start a serious debate =P
04:36:14 <Echidna> yea
04:36:16 <Echidna> 6:30 actually
04:36:45 <Echidna> although this is only borderline politics imo
04:36:46 <Mkop> are you GMT +1?
04:36:53 <Echidna> it's more about a general attitude towards life and country
04:36:56 <Echidna> +2 in summer
04:36:58 <Mkop> this is borderline politics, but complete stupidity
04:37:10 <Echidna> what i read on that page is complete stupidity in my book
04:37:13 <Mkop> i.e. the kind of discusssion which can only be a flame war, not substantive
04:37:34 <Echidna> well yea, of course
04:37:46 <Echidna> comments like that are intended to provoke people who strongly disagree
05:07:57 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8788]: 1.5.x: accidentally commited these; reverting back to [8772]. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8788>
05:09:42 <Mkop> r0bby: oops!
05:09:54 <r0bby> yeh....
05:10:00 <r0bby> lesson learned: WATCH
05:10:43 <Mkop> another lesson learned: don't commit anything that has your local tomcat password
05:11:14 <r0bby> yeh :)
05:11:26 <r0bby> and mysql!
05:11:40 <r0bby> but im not worried about that
05:30:52 <r0bby> ok i need to get up early tomorrow so to bed i go :)
05:31:21 <r0bby> Echidna: tell that to bush :)
05:31:48 <r0bby> An engineering student from my school just got back from iraq
05:39:58 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8791]: facility data: logic error. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8791> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8790]: facility data: back to number 7 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8790> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8789]: revert accidental commit to revision [8765] <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8789>
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15:50:21 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Lu Zhuang Wei: Weekly Report for Project (2009-06-28) <http://lzwgsoc.blogspot.com/2009/06/weekly-report-for-project-2009-06-28.html>
17:26:24 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8792]: reporting: Adding a second test class to demonstrate that the DAO save() … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8792>
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17:53:29 <upul> bwolfe: Are you there?
17:54:07 <bwolfe> yeah
17:55:53 <upul> do you know how activelist entries get created. Is it when user creates normal obs like in encounters. or do we create allergy objects directly?
17:56:46 <upul> that is when somebody creates an obs, create transparently allergy object transparently
17:56:54 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8793]: reporting: Added another test method to demonstrate a successful save … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8793>
17:56:58 <bwolfe> upul: you probably won't store both an allergy and an obs
17:57:01 <bwolfe> so I would say its separete
17:57:28 <upul> activelist entry stores the obs reference
17:57:57 <Mkop> I thought the idea was that there would be an active lists widget
17:58:21 <Mkop> you say "add allergy" and the widget adds an obs and a pointer to it in the active lists table
17:59:58 <upul> let's say user creates an allergy obs just like right now, i was thinking transparently capturing that and adding to the list
18:00:28 <Keelhaul> what do you mean by transparently
18:02:40 <upul> I mean even now allergy obs are created, we capture those allergies to the list, and when a new obs is entered, ALLERGY_RESOLVED or something that comes through an encounter may be, we remove that allergy from the list without user directly calling addAllergy, removeAllergy
18:04:04 <Mkop> it seems to make sense to do that
18:05:41 <upul> other method is user directly addAllergy, that means user creating an artificial obs and feeding it to the list
18:06:18 <Keelhaul> i'd say both could be possible
18:06:53 <upul> Keelhaul: what are required fields for a saving a bare Obs
18:06:55 <Mkop> just make sure you don't enable both and get into an infinite loop
18:07:23 <Mkop> user adds an allergy, which adds an obs, which says "I'm an allergy, so add an active list entry", which adds an obs, which...
18:07:29 <Keelhaul> upul: um, concept, obsDatetime, at least one value, i think
18:07:47 <upul> is location required?
18:07:53 <Keelhaul> oh yea
18:07:54 <Keelhaul> it is
18:08:19 <upul> but for this it has no meaning
18:08:31 <Keelhaul> nope
18:09:33 <Keelhaul> upul: oh and patient is mandatory too =)
18:09:42 <Keelhaul> upul: o.setLocation(Context.getLocationService().getDefaultLocation());
18:10:07 <upul> yes patient should be there
18:10:43 <upul> Mkop: that is, have to check whether allergy already added
18:11:00 <Mkop> or something like that
18:11:33 <Keelhaul> upul: i'm doing something similar in one of my modules
18:11:40 <Keelhaul> quite a bit of long and messy code
18:11:53 <upul> yes i saw problem lists
18:12:34 <Keelhaul> upul: when you're done, i'll probably remove that code and use your lists =P
18:16:33 <upul> Keelhaul: you'll have more problems in the list then :-D
18:25:09 <upul> bwolfe: I'm thinking of adding an ObsSaveHandler, check whether it is candidate for a known activeLIst if it is create new activelist entry or update (resolve) at the same time. Do you see any issues with that?
18:26:28 <Mkop> this is all in core, right?
18:26:34 <bwolfe> upul: that might work
18:26:43 <upul> Mkop: yes
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18:27:51 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8789]: revert accidental commit to revision [8787] <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8789>
18:28:51 <Mkop> that's strange - that commit was 13 hours ago. why did the bot mention it now?
18:29:20 <Agnor> hi
18:29:58 <upul> it's prop change less than one hour ago
18:30:08 <upul> hi
18:30:53 <upul> done by b w o l f e
18:32:24 <Mkop> huh? what are you talking about?
18:32:30 <Mkop> 8789 was r0bby
18:33:36 <upul> yes that revision but property change
18:34:19 <Mkop> what property change?
18:35:26 <upul> commit message has changed
18:43:11 <bwolfe> Mkop: yeah, upul is trying to say that I fixed r0bby's commit message so that it referenced 8787 instead of the wrong other commit number
18:43:33 <Mkop> oh, ok
18:43:56 <upul> without disturbing b w o l f e
18:44:15 <Mkop> lol
18:44:33 <Mkop> you could also type b wolfe and he also wouldn't get disturbed
18:53:47 <bwolfe> you guys are weird. I don't mind being "disturbed" on the weekends because I'm just sitting watching tv. (watching the us beat up on brazil in the finals, actually)
18:55:32 <Keelhaul> live?
18:55:35 <Keelhaul> or recorded
18:56:11 <bwolfe> live
18:56:37 <Keelhaul> ag found it
18:56:43 <Keelhaul> ah*
18:59:35 <upul> I hardly watch tv
18:59:48 <Keelhaul> i do when working out
19:00:01 <Keelhaul> mostly news and documentaries etc
19:00:13 <Keelhaul> 2-0
19:00:40 <Mkop> if I were watching the game, I wouldn't want a ding from my computer to pull me away
19:01:09 <upul> I really liked the soccer world cup held at japan korea long time ago
19:01:29 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I'm about 2 mins behind now because I've rewound it to watch the first goal a few times....so thanks for giving it away :-p
19:01:40 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: not my fault =P
19:02:09 <Keelhaul> upul: why that one
19:02:15 <Keelhaul> the 2006 one was better organized =)
19:03:32 <upul> don't know, that's the only one I watched each match
19:05:22 <Mkop> how many matches are in the world cup?
19:08:02 <upul> 32 teams selected from performance of the years before
19:09:01 <upul> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup#Format
19:09:04 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3PIi> (at en.wikipedia.org)
19:11:37 <Keelhaul> upul: i remember some games starting at 9 am in my time zone
19:11:41 <Keelhaul> that was inconvenient..
19:13:08 <upul> i remember it was day time for me too. but they showed the both games of the day at night. soccer is not populer here so i didn't get spoiled :-)
19:13:16 <Mkop> I thought the world cup was every year
19:13:40 <upul> is it south africa this time
19:13:41 <Keelhaul> Mkop: no, just the ones where there's a 29th feb
19:13:59 <Mkop> upul: really? there are places other than the US where soccer isn't popular?
19:14:00 <Keelhaul> and in between there are continental cups (at least here in europe)
19:14:15 <Mkop> Keelhaul: umm, no. 2002, 2006, etc. are not leap years
19:14:21 <Keelhaul> Mkop: maybe it will become more popular if your team does well
19:14:30 <Keelhaul> Mkop: oh yea my bad
19:14:34 <Keelhaul> its the other way
19:14:45 <Keelhaul> euro cup is in lean years
19:14:49 <Keelhaul> and world cups in between
19:15:14 <Mkop> if they had in 2002 and 2006, why are they having 09 and not 10?
19:15:24 <Keelhaul> this is the confederations cup
19:15:26 <Keelhaul> not the world cup
19:15:44 <Keelhaul> held a year before the world cup in the host country
19:16:03 <Keelhaul> i think its just the continental champions + world champion + host + brazil for some reason
19:16:07 <Keelhaul> i think because they hold a record
19:16:28 <Mkop> are all the players playing for USA americans?
19:16:39 <Keelhaul> should be
19:16:50 <Keelhaul> clubs allow foreigners on the team, national teams usually dont
19:17:26 <Keelhaul> that doesnt stop any country from naturalizing people who are valuable for the team real fast
19:17:53 <upul> reminds me jamaicans last olympics ;-)
19:21:33 <Mkop> is winwin nribeka ?
19:23:11 <upul> must be
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19:24:49 <bwolfe> I think nribeka is just one win
19:25:22 <upul> but he's from regenstrief too
19:26:53 <upul> good night all, good night bwolfe enjoy the match ;-)
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19:42:55 <nribeka3> 2 - 1
19:42:57 <nribeka3> haha ...
19:43:39 <Mkop> nribeka3: are you also winwin?
19:43:51 <Mkop> yes, you must be, because you have the same IP
19:43:52 <nribeka3> nope mkop
19:43:54 <nribeka3> why?
19:44:02 <Mkop> oh, oops, messed that up
19:44:06 <Mkop> who is it then?
19:44:15 <Mkop> it's someone at regenstrief
19:44:29 <nribeka3> some stalker i guess
19:44:35 <nribeka3> stalking you
19:45:01 <Mkop> why are you connected 3 times?
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19:49:35 <nribeka3> my wireless card keep on turning on and off :P
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19:50:07 <Mkop> your card turning on and off, or it dropping and recatching the wireless connection?
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19:50:33 <nribeka> turning on and off
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19:51:15 <Mkop> why does it do that?
19:52:38 <nribeka> i'm not sure why :(
19:53:50 <Keelhaul> wow, it's as if the teams traded their clothes during halftime =o
19:54:23 <bwolfe> seriously
19:55:21 <nribeka> hahahaha ..,
19:55:59 <Mkop> where can I watch the game online?
19:56:38 <nribeka> justin.tv i guess
20:01:39 <Mkop> http://www.justin.tv/hominess - is that live?
20:02:37 <bwolfe> yep, matches my tv
20:02:53 <Mkop> oh no
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20:03:16 <Keelhaul> woah
20:05:47 <Mkop> oh no!
20:05:49 <Mkop> 503 Service Unavailable
20:05:49 <Mkop> No server is available to handle this request.
20:06:06 <Keelhaul> Mkop: no free to air?
20:06:59 <Mkop> that's just from http://www.justin.tv/directory/sports
20:24:38 <Mkop> now I get:
20:24:39 <Mkop> 502 Bad Gateway
20:24:39 <Mkop> The server returned an invalid or incomplete response.
20:27:16 <Keelhaul> it's over anyway
20:27:32 <Mkop> oh, it is? who won?
20:27:41 <Mkop> US 2-1?
20:27:44 <Mkop> that's the last I heard
20:27:50 <Keelhaul> brazil 3-2
20:27:54 <Keelhaul> surprisingly
20:28:01 <Keelhaul> they changed completely after half time
20:28:24 <Keelhaul> it was actually 4-2 but the ref didnt see it properly
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20:36:23 <Mkop> actually, nevermind, I'm not
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