| 00:41:20 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8363]: Adding @shoulds and tests for getXyzByUuid(String) methods <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8363> |
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| 01:08:38 | <r0bby> Dominos is the shit. |
| 01:08:40 | <r0bby> :D |
| 01:09:23 | <Keelhaul> -the |
| 01:09:40 | <r0bby> oh shove it |
| 01:09:43 | <r0bby> i thought that too |
| 01:09:51 | <r0bby> until I had an entire pie at school |
| 01:09:58 | <r0bby> Felt sick... but it was worth it! |
| 01:10:02 | <Keelhaul> ... |
| 01:10:06 | <r0bby> partially because i inhaled it |
| 01:10:22 | <r0bby> :DDDD |
| 01:10:27 | <r0bby> my refactoring is complete :D |
| 01:10:54 | * Mkop needs to figure out how to chop an onion without making a mess all over the place |
| 01:15:55 | <r0bby> /WEB-INF/tags/module/facilitydata/booleanCodedQuestion.tag(14,28) equal symbol expected |
| 01:16:00 | <r0bby> ever see this error Keelhaul ? |
| 01:16:14 | <Keelhaul> nope |
| 01:16:20 | <Keelhaul> i never wrote my own tags |
| 01:16:26 | <Keelhaul> is that js code ro what |
| 01:16:28 | <Keelhaul> or* |
| 01:16:29 | <r0bby> <c:iftest="${"f"eqoption}"> |
| 01:16:31 | <Keelhaul> oh |
| 01:16:43 | <Keelhaul> why nto use == |
| 01:16:52 | <r0bby> I could i was wondering if that made a difference |
| 01:17:04 | <Keelhaul> apparently it does |
| 01:18:14 | <Mkop> what language is that? jsp? |
| 01:18:25 | <Mkop> I've seen similar kind of stuff in django |
| 01:18:44 | <r0bby> JSP Unified Expression Language aka EL |
| 01:19:42 | <Keelhaul> what's part of JSTL |
| 01:19:45 | <Keelhaul> that* |
| 01:20:03 | <Keelhaul> conditions, loops etc in jsp |
| 01:20:53 | <r0bby> JSTL == the tag lib |
| 01:21:04 | <r0bby> EL is actually another sub language :) |
| 01:44:05 | <deadpool> ah java let me count the ways i hate thee |
| 01:44:24 | <Mkop> don't diss java |
| 01:44:31 | <Mkop> until you've tried writing in C(++) |
| 01:45:04 | <deadpool> hey i am a systems guy |
| 01:45:15 | <deadpool> i started in c and c++ loved iut |
| 01:45:17 | <deadpool> it |
| 01:45:29 | <Mkop> you are strange |
| 01:46:09 | <deadpool> well in college i started programming linux device drivers and such |
| 01:46:12 | <deadpool> so i got used to it |
| 01:46:29 | <deadpool> i have taken a java class here and there but i miss structs soo much |
| 01:46:51 | <deadpool> i dunno my first programming language was c so i guess i am a bit biased |
| 01:47:13 | <Mkop> my first language was also c, but I have grown beyond that |
| 01:47:36 | <deadpool> well this is my first time doing a gui type interface and such |
| 01:47:50 | <deadpool> i usually program at a lower level |
| 01:48:25 | <deadpool> and i have only used java in my intro to programming class the rest i used c and c++ cause it was so just practical |
| 01:48:30 | <deadpool> hey i like python |
| 01:48:36 | <deadpool> i think python is awesome |
| 01:48:44 | <deadpool> it is just a preference |
| 01:49:06 | <deadpool> i have grown too |
| 01:49:22 | * deadpool stands up to a wall to measure himself |
| 01:50:17 | * deadpool hoping he grew |
| 01:50:39 | <deadpool> oh yeah and the jvm is still programmed in c so ha |
| 01:53:10 | <deadpool> ok i give java is cool too |
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| 02:23:26 | <r0bby> C++ |
| 02:23:38 | <r0bby> deadpool: it's in C++ |
| 02:24:06 | <deadpool> some of them are written in c |
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| 02:47:29 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8365]: facility data: remove an unncessary import <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8365> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8364]: facility data: refactored the rendering from part 1 away from the ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8364> || Harshini Gudiwada: SVN <http://harshinigudiwada.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/svn/> || Harshini Gudiwada: Current progress on Role Based Homepage <http://harshinigudiwada.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/current-progress-on-role-based-homepage/> |
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| 03:19:31 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Harshini Gudiwada: New features <http://harshinigudiwada.wordpress.com/2009/06/08/new-features/> |
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| 03:31:16 | <Mkop> Keelhaul: who says max email size is 1 MB? |
| 03:31:22 | <Mkop> the listserv software? |
| 03:31:24 | <Keelhaul> the mailer |
| 03:31:26 | <Keelhaul> twice |
| 03:31:29 | <Keelhaul> it rejected my mailz |
| 03:32:10 | <Mkop> you can't even send a private email that's more than 1 MB? |
| 03:32:33 | <Keelhaul> err |
| 03:32:35 | <Keelhaul> not my mailer |
| 03:32:41 | <Keelhaul> the listserv software, yes |
| 03:32:48 | <Mkop> oh, ok |
| 03:32:58 | <Keelhaul> Your message cannot be distributed to the openmrs-devel-l list because it |
| 03:32:58 | <Keelhaul> exceeds the maximum message size of 1M. The size of your message was 1,336,773 |
| 03:32:58 | <Keelhaul> bytes. |
| 03:32:58 | <Keelhaul> This limit has been set by the list owner and does not necessarily apply to the |
| 03:32:58 | <Keelhaul> other lists hosted at LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU. If you have any questions, please |
| 03:32:59 | <Keelhaul> contact the list owner at openmrs-devel-l-request@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU. |
| 03:45:39 | <upul> Keelhaul: nice work |
| 03:45:49 | <Keelhaul> thx |
| 03:46:02 | <Keelhaul> you dont happen to have the commercial version of mysql wb? |
| 03:46:10 | <upul> nope |
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| 03:50:27 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Using demo database with nightly builds <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=452#p1614> |
| 03:57:11 | <Keelhaul> if you have patient data with a fake id for research etc |
| 03:57:19 | <Keelhaul> but can still make the connection if you have the key list |
| 03:57:23 | <Keelhaul> whats it called in english |
| 04:08:52 | <upul> Keelhaul: masking? |
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| 04:18:20 | <Keelhaul> dunno |
| 04:18:32 | <Keelhaul> in german it's "Pseudonymisierung" |
| 04:18:53 | <upul> what is nymisierung? |
| 04:19:18 | <Keelhaul> a pseudonym is a mock name |
| 04:19:26 | <Keelhaul> -isierung means -ization |
| 04:21:34 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Question: relation of Encounter to Form to Observations <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=453#p1616> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Using demo database with nightly builds <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=452#p1615> |
| 04:21:39 | <Keelhaul> ok slp time gn |
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| 04:23:05 | <upul> Pseudonymisation |
| 04:32:46 | <r0bby> does remote debugging work |
| 04:33:32 | <upul> connected to r0bby:5050 |
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| 05:25:40 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8366]: dataintegrity: implemented the integrity check execution environment <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8366> |
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| 05:57:44 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8368]: mdrtb1.4 moved forms tab to portlet to give clean workspace for adding ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8368> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8367]: mdrtb1.4. Added empiric/standardized/individualized widget. Now just ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8367> |
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| 06:37:57 | <pascal`> hi ppl |
| 06:41:14 | <upul> hi pascal` |
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| 06:41:27 | <ppl> Hi pascal` |
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| 06:43:25 | <pascal`> hi upul |
| 06:45:22 | <r0bby> awesome...just awesome |
| 06:45:36 | <r0bby> tomcat just decided to take a huge, huge crap :( |
| 06:45:47 | <pascal`> yeah, it does that |
| 06:49:08 | <r0bby> my database is shot, openmrs won't start |
| 06:49:19 | <r0bby> This all started because i needed to attach a debugger |
| 06:49:40 | <pascal`> hmm |
| 06:49:50 | <pascal`> that shouldn't mess with your database |
| 06:49:53 | <pascal`> uhm |
| 06:50:04 | <pascal`> have you recently installed any modules? |
| 06:50:23 | <pascal`> i know that if modules expect some settings to be defined, and they aren't, then openMRS won't start |
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| 07:21:27 | <r0bby> pascal`: just mine |
| 07:21:35 | <r0bby> I need to debug a module mapping issue |
| 07:22:01 | <pascal`> uhm |
| 07:22:11 | <r0bby> s/module/controller/ |
| 07:22:12 | <pascal`> what mapping? |
| 07:22:17 | <r0bby> CONTROLLER mapping issue :) |
| 07:28:25 | <r0bby> I have 4 items i want finished tomorrow :) |
| 07:28:34 | <r0bby> let's see if i finish my goal set out for TOMORROW :( |
| 07:28:44 | <r0bby> my entire day was consumed with fixing that view :( |
| 07:32:50 | <pascal`> oh |
| 07:33:12 | <pascal`> so your controller isn't being correctly invoked when you visit a specific url? i hate that =S |
| 07:33:27 | <pascal`> aren't you using the annotations in spring 2.5 though? |
| 07:41:17 | <r0bby> I am |
| 07:41:20 | <r0bby> yeh |
| 07:41:25 | <r0bby> that's pissing me off :( |
| 07:43:51 | <pascal`> hmm |
| 07:44:12 | <pascal`> if you go to .htm does your jsp at least display? |
| 07:44:34 | <pascal`> you might need to go to .form or .list or specify .htm explicitly in your annotation |
| 07:44:47 | <pascal`> i did find one or two tutorials out there, not many |
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| 10:14:34 | <pascal`> Unable to refresh the WebApplicationContext : null |
| 10:14:36 | <pascal`> (= |
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| 11:11:34 | <amogha> hi |
| 11:11:47 | <amogha> any body there |
| 11:12:06 | <pascal`> hi |
| 11:12:54 | <amogha> can we show window popups in case of error messages |
| 11:12:56 | <amogha> ? |
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| 11:16:35 | <amogha> pascal u there?? |
| 11:16:47 | <pascal`> hi |
| 11:16:48 | <pascal`> um |
| 11:17:14 | <pascal`> you can, but i'm sure if it's part of the default api |
| 11:17:21 | <pascal`> can't you just use a javascript popup? |
| 11:17:29 | <pascal`> you can use DWR if you need to call into the api first |
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| 11:19:44 | <amogha> ok v can use javascript popups.....v just wanted to confirm that whether v can use any popups or not |
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| 11:21:42 | <pascal`> amogha, that depends on what you mean by _can_ |
| 11:22:03 | <pascal`> i mean, it's possible, but if you're trying to determine whether you're allowed to or not, then i can't really help =\ |
| 11:22:49 | <amogha> the thing is one of my controller checks whether the OpenMRS instance is a member of openempi |
| 11:23:27 | <amogha> if no then i need to throw an error at the admin screen saying that u r not a member |
| 11:24:00 | <amogha> for displaying the error i needed an popup |
| 11:24:26 | <pascal`> well, i'm sure you could do it without a popup, but i suppose a popup will work |
| 11:24:37 | <amogha> how |
| 11:24:39 | <pascal`> you should ask your project supervisor what they think |
| 11:24:56 | <pascal`> well |
| 11:25:11 | <pascal`> you controller could send some reference data to the jsp |
| 11:25:33 | <pascal`> the jsp could then inspect the reference data and decide whether or not to throw the popup error |
| 11:26:18 | <pascal`> does that answer your question? |
| 11:26:43 | <amogha> yes |
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| 11:54:55 | <harshini> hi all |
| 11:55:01 | <Keelhaul> hi |
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| 11:57:09 | <pascal`> hey Keelhaul |
| 11:57:16 | <pascal`> nice data model diagram |
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| 12:00:00 | <Keelhaul> i cant finish it =/ |
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| 12:05:15 | <harshini> hey do any one have idea about where can we find the openmrs-runtime.properties in the lab server |
| 12:10:03 | <harshini> please can any one help me out.....i'm not able to find it in the directory which is mentioned in the wiki page. |
| 12:10:25 | <pascal`> harshini, check the environment variables |
| 12:10:42 | <pascal`> or check in the tomcat webapps root |
| 12:10:43 | <Keelhaul> does linux have env variables? |
| 12:10:55 | <pascal`> or in ~/.OpenMRS or something |
| 12:10:59 | <pascal`> Keelhaul, yes, definately |
| 12:11:05 | <Keelhaul> i have to look for that file every time i access our ubuntu server |
| 12:11:08 | <Keelhaul> forget every time lol |
| 12:11:10 | <harshini> ya we can create env variables in linux |
| 12:11:17 | <Keelhaul> everything is spread in linux |
| 12:11:18 | <Keelhaul> i hate it |
| 12:12:15 | <harshini> i cant even find .OpenMRS dir... |
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| 12:13:20 | <harshini> so i created .OpenMRS dir in the tomcat home directory and in that i created the openmrs-runtime.properties file |
| 12:13:44 | <Keelhaul> nah |
| 12:13:49 | <Keelhaul> it should be in the user's home i think |
| 12:14:04 | <harshini> oh |
| 12:15:19 | <harshini> but in the labs wiki its mentioned that we must create it in the tomcat dir |
| 12:15:49 | <harshini> any ways i'll try out giving it there |
| 12:17:15 | <pascal`> set the environment variable, it will be easier |
| 12:17:23 | <pascal`> or dump it in the tomcat root |
| 12:18:10 | <Keelhaul> /usr/share/tomcat5.5/.OpenMRS |
| 12:18:16 | <Keelhaul> thats where it is on our ubuntu server |
| 12:18:20 | <Keelhaul> though it prolly varies |
| 12:20:44 | <harshini> i have set the env variable |
| 12:21:40 | <harshini> keelhaul: ok |
| 12:21:54 | <Keelhaul> thought it can vary |
| 12:21:57 | <Keelhaul> thats what i hate about linux |
| 12:22:57 | <harshini> :) |
| 12:23:12 | <Keelhaul> though* |
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| 12:26:07 | <harshini> i dont have tomcat in usr/share |
| 12:26:21 | <harshini> tomcat is in opt/ |
| 12:27:43 | <Keelhaul> ok |
| 12:27:58 | <Keelhaul> on our server, the tomcat application is in /etc/tomcat5.5 |
| 12:28:14 | <Keelhaul> and the openmrs runtime dir is in where i said earlier |
| 12:29:21 | <harshini> oh...in lab2 opennmrs it is in the opt/tomcat/webapps only |
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| 12:44:57 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8370]: openempi: Initial commit of module files <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8370> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8369]: openempi: Creating initial directory <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8369> |
| 12:47:20 | <pascal`> hey bwolfe |
| 12:47:40 | <bwolfe> good morning pascal` |
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| 13:16:20 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Question: relation of Encounter to Form to Observations <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=453#p1618> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: Using demo database with nightly builds <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=452#p1617> |
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| 13:31:43 | <deadpool> hey bwolfe |
| 13:32:01 | <deadpool> think i can get some help on the form entry from you? |
| 13:32:04 | <bwolfe> sure |
| 13:33:01 | <deadpool> so i finally got infopath to work somehow |
| 13:33:24 | <bwolfe> ? |
| 13:33:25 | <deadpool> so when i started the from process queue and hl7 |
| 13:33:52 | <deadpool> the way i got it to work was to clear cahe and download the form from the url |
| 13:34:07 | <deadpool> so i can submit the form and it says submitted successfully |
| 13:34:28 | <deadpool> but when i wait it doesn't update the encounter |
| 13:35:00 | <deadpool> i went in the logs and found out that there is an authentication error but i can''t seem to find out where the error is |
| 13:35:18 | <deadpool> this is where i need some help with |
| 13:35:51 | <bwolfe> this is on your local install ? |
| 13:35:56 | <deadpool> yeah |
| 13:36:16 | <deadpool> infopath doesn't work for me on the demo for some reason |
| 13:36:25 | <deadpool> but it works for my local server |
| 13:37:09 | <bwolfe> the hl7 and formentry queues run in the openmrs scheduler. the scheduler has a user that it authenticates as. you define this user with global properties I think: scheduler.username/scheduler.password |
| 13:37:28 | <harshini> bwolfe: hi |
| 13:37:30 | <bwolfe> (it might be a runtime property too...I can't remember the status of moving those from GPs to RPs) |
| 13:37:35 | <bwolfe> hi harshini |
| 13:38:00 | <harshini> bwolfe: i need one more small help from u |
| 13:38:12 | <deadpool> yeah i saw that and i changed the global properties to reflect the runtimes properties username and password |
| 13:38:39 | <deadpool> and i am still getting the authentication error |
| 13:38:58 | <bwolfe> did you restart openmrs ? The tasks might be caching the user info |
| 13:39:08 | <deadpool> yeah did that too |
| 13:39:21 | <deadpool> reloaded the module and restarted the computer |
| 13:39:41 | <deadpool> just to make sure |
| 13:40:15 | <bwolfe> deadpool: hehe, wow, ok, yes, no cache then :-p |
| 13:40:42 | <bwolfe> can you pastebin the auth stacktrace? |
| 13:40:51 | <bwolfe> harshini: ok, whats up? |
| 13:40:54 | <deadpool> yeah sure |
| 13:41:05 | <deadpool> you want to see the log? |
| 13:41:22 | <harshini> bwolfe: hey i was not able to find the openmrs-runtime.properties file in the folder which u mentioned in the lab wiki |
| 13:42:42 | <harshini> so i created a new dir named .OpenMRS in the tomcat dir and put openmrs-runtime.properties file |
| 13:43:54 | <harshini> and i also created the same in the root dir |
| 13:44:35 | <harshini> yet the browse button is not enabled :( |
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| 13:45:57 | <bwolfe> harshini: go to admin --> modules --> manage module properties. |
| 13:46:04 | <bwolfe> harshini: where does it say modules will be stored? |
| 13:46:58 | <deadpool> bwolfe: http://pastebin.com/dab72f09 this is when i reloaded the module |
| 13:47:37 | <harshini> bwolfe: opt/tomcat/temp/.openmrs/modules |
| 13:47:42 | <deadpool> had to stop it after awhile or the log would have been quite huge |
| 13:50:33 | <bwolfe> harshini: ok, looks like I forgot to change the tomcat home dir on your lab. I just did it. tomcat's home dir is now /home/tomcat. |
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| 13:51:02 | <harshini> k |
| 13:51:23 | <bwolfe> harshini: I moved the runtime properties from root to there as well |
| 13:51:30 | <bwolfe> harshini: you need to restart tomcat now and it should work |
| 13:51:38 | <bwolfe> deadpool: is the formentry module started ? |
| 13:51:45 | <deadpool> yeah it is |
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| 13:51:56 | <harshini> bwolfe:okay |
| 13:52:03 | <deadpool> but i have to start it every time i reload it |
| 13:52:10 | <deadpool> is there a way to keep it on all the time |
| 13:52:25 | <bwolfe> every time you reload openmrs ? |
| 13:52:43 | <deadpool> yeah |
| 13:52:55 | <deadpool> or lets say the computer restarts or shutsdown |
| 13:53:05 | <bwolfe> deadpool: and it looks like the username/password is wrong. double check those for any extra spaces, etc |
| 13:53:24 | <bwolfe> deadpool: hmm, when openmrs restarts, its supposed to start any modules that were started before |
| 13:53:27 | <deadpool> the schedule one |
| 13:53:50 | <bwolfe> yes, the scheduled task password is wrong. (or the username is not admin) |
| 13:54:07 | <bwolfe> (if you change the admin username you have to change the scheduler username) |
| 13:54:51 | <deadpool> well in the openmrs runtime i have the username:admin and password:password |
| 13:55:14 | <deadpool> and the same withthe schedule username:admin and password:password |
| 13:56:01 | <deadpool> just want to make sure the login name i use is admin and i use a different password that shouldn't matter should it? |
| 13:56:10 | <bwolfe> and you can log into the webapp with exactly what you have there ? |
| 13:56:43 | <deadpool> yeah |
| 13:56:45 | <bwolfe> the login name doesn't have to be admin, you can change that too if you want. I commented on it earlier because I can see from the logs that it is trying to use "admin" |
| 13:57:12 | <deadpool> well my openmrs-runtime.properties is admin/password |
| 13:57:32 | <deadpool> and because that is what i used in the mysql database |
| 13:57:47 | <deadpool> and the step-by-step installation told me to do that |
| 13:58:12 | <deadpool> well it told me that the username and password i put in mysql should be the same in the runtime.properties |
| 13:59:02 | <bwolfe> the mysql username/password is different than the scheduler username/password. the scheduler username/password is what you log into openmrs with in the web. by default it is admin/test |
| 13:59:53 | <deadpool> oh ok that makes sense that was what i was asking sorry if it was confusing |
| 14:00:28 | <harshini> bwolfe: is the whole tomcat dir moved to home.?? |
| 14:01:04 | <bwolfe> harshini: no, just the tomcat user's home dir. only the openmrs runtime properties will be in /home/tomcat. the tomcat installation dir is still /opt/tomcat |
| 14:04:21 | <harshini> Im now getting 404 error after restarting tomcat it says it cant find openmrs....hey sorry if i'm disturbing u.... |
| 14:04:42 | <bwolfe> harshini: look at the tomcat logs to see why |
| 14:06:07 | <harshini> actually when i restart i think it not getting restarted well...it says Waiting for processes to exit.. and it says [ok] |
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| 14:07:41 | <deadpool> bwolfe: you are amazing thanks for the help |
| 14:08:17 | <bwolfe> deadpool: everything working as it should now? |
| 14:08:43 | <bwolfe> harshini: type "ps aux |
| 14:08:43 | <deadpool> yeah except the form entry module doesn't start when i reload the module |
| 14:09:00 | <bwolfe> deadpool: do you have anything in your logs when you startup ? |
| 14:09:36 | <deadpool> should i look at the same place stdout |
| 14:10:40 | <bwolfe> yeah |
| 14:10:46 | <harshini> bwolfe: tomcat 3161 10.4 4.4 547516 69992 pts/0 Sl 14:08 0:05 /usr/java/jdk1.6.0_13/bin/java -Djvm=tomcat -Xms384M -Xmx384M -Djava.awt.headless=true -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true -Djava.util.logging.manager=org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager -Djava.util.logging.config.file=/opt/tomcat/conf/logging.properties -Djava.endorsed.dirs=/opt/tomcat/endo |
| 14:11:10 | <harshini> this was the output of the command |
| 14:11:56 | <bwolfe> harshini: you're right then. tomcat is not getting stopped. run "kill -9 3161" |
| 14:12:28 | <harshini> yup |
| 14:13:53 | <deadpool> bwolfe: new errors don't understand what they mean |
| 14:13:55 | <deadpool> http://pastebin.com/d5f013eab |
| 14:14:10 | <deadpool> something is wrong with the hl7 queue |
| 14:15:07 | <harshini> yup i did...now should i restart it? |
| 14:15:17 | <bwolfe> deadpool: looks like formentry is getting started. "INFO - FormEntryActivator.startup(35) |2009-06-10 19:34:01,656| Starting the Form Entry module" |
| 14:15:23 | <bwolfe> harshini: yep |
| 14:17:13 | <bwolfe> deadpool: something is wrong with your hl7 message, not the queue. :-) that error message is not so helpful though |
| 14:17:49 | <deadpool> huh |
| 14:18:01 | <bwolfe> deadpool: you need to have a valid provider on your form. I think it goes into encounter-->provider. its on the default form |
| 14:18:16 | <deadpool> no i created a provider |
| 14:18:21 | <harshini> bwolfe: still i get the same error |
| 14:18:54 | <deadpool> but still need to you know press the play button to start the form entry module or i can't see the forms tab on the patients |
| 14:19:34 | <bwolfe> harshini: what is in your tomcat log when you start openmrs ? |
| 14:20:03 | <bwolfe> deadpool: restart openmrs and send me the part of the log where formentry fails to start. |
| 14:20:14 | <deadpool> got it |
| 14:20:19 | <bwolfe> deadpool: and you selected a provider in infopath? |
| 14:20:27 | <deadpool> yup |
| 14:21:04 | <deadpool> bwolfe: how do i clear the apache log |
| 14:21:52 | <bwolfe> deadpool: stop tomcat. delete/rename the file. start tomcat |
| 14:22:00 | <deadpool> gotcha |
| 14:23:45 | <harshini> bwolfe: i did not get u |
| 14:24:39 | <bwolfe> harshini: you said you are getting an error when you start openmrs. the first place to look when this happens is your tomcat log file |
| 14:24:57 | <bwolfe> harshini: look in that file for an error message or some reason why openmrs is not starting up correctly |
| 14:25:35 | <deadpool> bwolfe: http://pastebin.com/d3dc208dc |
| 14:25:46 | <bwolfe> harshini: look at http://lab2.openmrs.org:8080/manager/html . openmrs is not started. start openmrs, then look at your tomcat log file |
| 14:26:36 | <deadpool> bwolfe: i see that there is an error in the form entry queue but that is because the form entry module is not started and i still have to start it back up manually |
| 14:27:12 | <bwolfe> deadpool: does the datadeletion module start correctly? |
| 14:27:20 | <deadpool> yes it does |
| 14:27:50 | <bwolfe> hmm |
| 14:28:08 | <bwolfe> deadpool: look in your global properties right now. is formentry.started set to true ? |
| 14:28:49 | <deadpool> yes |
| 14:30:35 | <harshini> bwolfe: SEVERE: Context [/openmrs] startup failed due to previous errors i got this in the log file |
| 14:33:19 | <harshini> the openmrs is not getting started |
| 14:35:37 | <harshini> can i undeploy the trunk and deply the trunk i'm using? |
| 14:40:45 | <bwolfe> harshini: you can load in whatever you want. |
| 14:42:09 | <harshini> k thanks a lot |
| 14:42:11 | <harshini> :) |
| 14:43:36 | <deadpool> umm bwolfe any ideas on what to do? |
| 14:45:01 | <bwolfe> deadpool: sorry, missed your response. stop openmrs. then look in your mysql database in the global property table and see if formentry.started is still true |
| 14:45:24 | <deadpool> umm how do i do that i don't know how to really manipulate mysql |
| 14:48:28 | <bwolfe> deadpool: do you have a mysql client installed at all ? |
| 14:48:42 | <deadpool> nope just the server |
| 14:48:53 | <deadpool> wait sorry i have the command line client |
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| 14:51:29 | <deadpool> is that what you are asking for bwolfe? |
| 14:51:48 | <bwolfe> deadpool: yeah, the command line client should be fine. in it type: |
| 14:52:10 | <bwolfe> deadpool: use openmrs; select * from global_property where property = 'formentry.started'; |
| 14:53:55 | <deadpool> it says true |
| 14:58:33 | <deadpool> so bwolfe what could else be wrong? |
| 14:59:59 | <bwolfe> very strange |
| 15:01:00 | <bwolfe> deadpool: I guess you could set the log level to DEBUG and start openmrs to see if there are any more messages about formentry not starting |
| 15:01:21 | <deadpool> ok so set that up in the openmrs-runtime properties |
| 15:01:23 | <deadpool> right |
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| 15:04:32 | <bwolfe> deadpool: the log level is actually set somewhere else |
| 15:04:42 | <bwolfe> deadpool: its in a non-intuitive place. :-/ |
| 15:04:47 | <deadpool> ah |
| 15:05:15 | <bwolfe> deadpool: tomcathome/webapps/openmrs/WEB-INF/classes/log4j.xml |
| 15:06:54 | <deadpool> just to make sure i need to stop tomcat and enable that and then restart tomcat again and the log will be located in the stdout area right |
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| 15:08:58 | <bwolfe> deadpool: you are correct all around |
| 15:10:18 | <deadpool> bwolfe in the xml file what value do i need to change nothing seems to obvious |
| 15:11:51 | <upul> bwolfe: there's also a global property for openmrs log |
| 15:14:43 | <bwolfe> upul: that global property only controls the org.openmrs.api package. would not nice to have one that controls everything. (or maybe we just need to change it to act on org.openmrs) |
| 15:15:06 | <bwolfe> deadpool: change the one that says "org.openmrs" .... "WARN" to "DEBUG" |
| 15:17:08 | <upul> bwolfe: it is org.openmrs |
| 15:17:28 | <bwolfe> upul: the global properties one? are you sure ? |
| 15:17:40 | <upul> org.openmrs.util.OpenmrsUtil#applyLogLevel |
| 15:18:43 | <upul> bwolfe: |
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| 15:29:43 | <deadpool> bwolfe: http://pastebin.com/d92c1e8d |
| 15:30:26 | <bwolfe> deadpool: what openmrs version are you running ? |
| 15:30:56 | <deadpool> bwolfe: 1.4.2.01 |
| 15:31:22 | <bwolfe> deadpool: did you install the formentry module or are you using the one that came with openmrs ? |
| 15:31:34 | <deadpool> i am using the one that came with openmrs |
| 15:31:55 | <deadpool> is there a problem with that? |
| 15:32:31 | <bwolfe> no, there shouldn't be. but that might be why its not getting started. |
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| 15:32:48 | <bwolfe> deadpool: have you used our trac ticketing system before? http://dev.openmrs.org |
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| 15:36:30 | <upul> bwolfe: conceptanswer is just a list of concepts, for valuecoded there's no constraints or validations? |
| 15:37:25 | <bwolfe> value coded just points at concept.concept_id. no other constraints |
| 15:37:55 | <bwolfe> when doing data entry, the user can only pick from valid answers, but the database does not have a way to enforce that |
| 15:38:37 | <upul> bwolfe: "when doing data entry" you mean in the web interface |
| 15:38:52 | <upul> api I can do anything |
| 15:39:24 | <bwolfe> correct |
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| 15:44:40 | <Mkop> Keelhaul: I like the ambiguous "I've been able to obtain a copy..." |
| 15:44:47 | <Keelhaul> ;] |
| 15:45:21 | <Mkop> bwolfe: thanks for closing that ticket yesterday! |
| 15:45:26 | <Keelhaul> i found why it wasnt displaying the names btw |
| 15:45:41 | <Mkop> now, bwolfe and jmiranda, what's the status on that deprecation patch? |
| 15:46:13 | <Mkop> !ticket 1488 |
| 15:46:13 | <OpenMRSBot> Mkop: Ticket #1488: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1488 |
| 15:46:28 | <Mkop> !ticket 1142 |
| 15:46:28 | <OpenMRSBot> Mkop: Ticket #1142: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1142 |
| 15:49:01 | <jmiranda> Mkop, not sure |
| 15:49:11 | <jmiranda> weren't we waiting for another patch? |
| 15:49:23 | <Mkop> definitely not on 1488 |
| 15:49:29 | <jmiranda> ok |
| 15:49:35 | <Mkop> that was supposed to be a quick fix thing in your module |
| 15:50:34 | <Mkop> I guess 1142 was waiting on me |
| 15:51:16 | <Mkop> I have a paper due in a couple hours, but later (hopefully tonight or later this week) I will get back to you (via trac) on what exactly needs to get done there |
| 15:51:27 | <jmiranda> ok cool |
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| 15:51:34 | <jmiranda> in the meantime, i'll apply 1488 |
| 15:51:39 | <jmiranda> Keelhaul, nice work |
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| 15:51:47 | <Keelhaul> ty |
| 15:52:16 | <deadpool> hey bwolfe sorry if you said something i got disconnected from my internet |
| 15:53:26 | <bwolfe> deadpool: haven't said anything since: <deadpool> i am using the one that came with openmrs |
| 15:53:26 | <bwolfe> <deadpool> is there a problem with that? |
| 15:53:26 | <bwolfe> <bwolfe> no, there shouldn't be. but that might be why its not getting started. |
| 15:53:32 | <bwolfe> deadpool: have you used our trac ticketing system before? http://dev.openmrs.org |
| 15:53:51 | <deadpool> nope i haven't |
| 15:54:27 | <deadpool> bwolfe should i download the newest module get rid of the one i have now and try installing a new one? |
| 15:55:33 | <bwolfe> deadpool: yeah, you can do that |
| 15:56:06 | <bwolfe> deadpool: meanwhile, create a ticket that says it doesn't work: http://dev.openmrs.org/newticket |
| 15:56:21 | <bwolfe> deadpool: you might need to register in trac first http://dev.openmrs.org/register |
| 15:56:41 | <deadpool> i am already registered with the website should that matter |
| 15:59:02 | <bwolfe> deadpool: dev/wiki/forum are all separate right now. so if you haven't registered on dev, you'll need to |
| 15:59:27 | <upul> bwolfe: so "Model must support constraining coded answers to one or more classes" means adding options like existing conceptanswer not validation or constraints? |
| 16:00:31 | <bwolfe> upul: correct, it doesn't mean validation. it means making ConceptAnswer a smarter object |
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| 16:17:32 | <deadpool_> hey bwolfe it works when i delete the module and reinstall it again |
| 16:17:39 | <deadpool_> do you want me to put a ticket on this |
| 16:17:51 | <bwolfe> deadpool: yeah, would love that |
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| 16:22:56 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8372]: mdrtb1.4. final version of adding emp/st/ind in regimen widget. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8372> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1488 (task closed): Fix for some deprecation issues for files just moved into the reporting compability module <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1488#comment:2> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8371]: reportingcompatibility: Applied patch to fix some deprecation issues for ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8371> |
| 16:24:15 | <deadpool> hey bwolfe do you want me to attach the log with the ticket? or just put a small description i also put the priority as minor |
| 16:24:36 | <bwolfe> log isn't needed, the default priority is fine |
| 16:26:34 | <deadpool> ok |
| 16:28:51 | <deadpool> there bwolfe it is done |
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| 16:29:10 | <deadpool> thanks for your help bwolfe I really appreciate it and i also learned a lot |
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| 16:43:08 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: check out the updated image and give me feedback, plz |
| 16:43:35 | <Keelhaul> two tables are missing on it becuase they slid beyond the diagram boundaries |
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| 16:49:06 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: ok, feedback sent |
| 16:50:24 | <Keelhaul> lol thx |
| 16:50:33 | <Keelhaul> problem is |
| 16:50:44 | <Keelhaul> the program uses static tiles to extend the diagram size |
| 16:53:07 | <bwolfe> huh? |
| 16:53:15 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1560 (defect created): FormEntry Module 3.6.3 included with the deployment of OpenMRS doesn't start when openmrs is restarted or loaded <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1560> |
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| 17:02:08 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: the program can only extend the diagram size by whole letter-shaped blocks |
| 17:02:36 | <Keelhaul> so if i want to cut the image mid-block, i'll have to crop it in a paint prog after wards etc |
| 17:02:41 | <Keelhaul> thats hard work |
| 17:03:25 | <Keelhaul> also, you want me to reduce the height only, which will only change the aspect ratio |
| 17:03:38 | <Keelhaul> if you want bigger fonts on paper, the width has to be reduced as well |
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| 17:09:10 | <Keelhaul> bbl |
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| 17:25:07 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8373]: mdrtb1.4, changed classpath to point to openmrs-1.4.x branch lib files., ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8373> |
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| 17:56:54 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1561 (defect created): Update concept word is failing in 1.4.x-latest (1.4.2+) <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1561> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8374]: schedulerquartz: start date and end date validations modified <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8374> |
| 18:06:04 | <catechu> has anyone used a dynamic checklist in openmrs already? (e.g. a list of steps to be completed, checked off as they are finished) |
| 18:24:03 | <bwolfe> catechu: whats your use case? |
| 18:24:18 | <bwolfe> catechu: do you mean like wizard? a wizard controller maybe? |
| 18:27:10 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8376]: schedulerquartz: createdDate set <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8376> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8375]: schedulerquartz: createdDate property added <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8375> |
| 18:30:12 | <catechu> bwolfe: for the patientmatching module, when the deduplication process begins, displaying a checklist and marking completed items -- no user interactivity, so a wizard would probably be overkill |
| 18:31:13 | <bwolfe> catechu: the only checklist I can think of is the one that is in use on the Manage Roles page when adding/editing a role |
| 18:32:23 | <catechu> bwolfe: ah -- what about real-time feedback on server activity? |
| 18:32:38 | <bwolfe> nope |
| 18:32:57 | <catechu> ok, just wanted to check before writing from scratch :) |
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| 19:06:19 | <sdefabbiakane> hi darius |
| 19:06:51 | <djazayeri> Hi Sam |
| 19:07:49 | <djazayeri> I don't see Burke yet, but I imagine he'll show up soon. |
| 19:07:52 | <sdefabbiakane> yep |
| 19:08:02 | <djazayeri> bwolfe! |
| 19:08:13 | <djazayeri> Stand up and look over the wall to see if Burke is in his office. :-) |
| 19:08:35 | <bwolfe> he was in earlier today |
| 19:08:42 | <bwolfe> his light is on |
| 19:09:22 | <bwolfe> he's not answering his office phone, so he's off somewhere else |
| 19:09:29 | <sdefabbiakane> alright |
| 19:10:58 | <djazayeri> let's give him until 3:15, then start. |
| 19:11:02 | <sdefabbiakane> sounds good |
| 19:12:48 | <bwolfe> he'll be here in about 5 mins |
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| 19:15:01 | * r0bby pokes burke in the eye |
| 19:15:10 | <r0bby> he's alive |
| 19:15:14 | <r0bby> and present i think |
| 19:15:25 | <burke> sorry. stuck in another mtg |
| 19:15:53 | <r0bby> burke: Leave groovy module alone, i'll try and work on it over the july 4th weekend; I haven't taken many days off :S |
| 19:15:54 | <sdefabbiakane> so is everyone here? |
| 19:16:03 | <r0bby> gonna try and use that time to do the threading stuff |
| 19:16:36 | <burke> r0bby: I can send you a groovy script where I was playing with the threading. |
| 19:17:07 | <r0bby> yes do that please |
| 19:17:15 | <djazayeri> sdefabbiakane, burke: yep |
| 19:17:16 | <burke> r0bby: and, no, I don't promise to leave the Groovy module alone. The UI needs some work. |
| 19:17:17 | <r0bby> burke: since we're using groovy primarily it's perfect! |
| 19:17:31 | <r0bby> then have at it =) |
| 19:17:48 | <burke> sdefabbiakane: yup. here and accounted for. |
| 19:17:54 | <r0bby> it's primarily groovy for a reason :) -- I was able to filter out the stack trace verbatim :) |
| 19:18:09 | <r0bby> and yeh burke I know -- the Jquery UI dialog :) -- have fun with that one :) |
| 19:18:34 | <sdefabbiakane> alright, so notes project |
| 19:18:36 | <djazayeri> So, to anybody else who's listening, we're going to discuss the Notes project. |
| 19:19:26 | <djazayeri> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Note |
| 19:19:58 | <djazayeri> Sam, do you want to drive? |
| 19:20:05 | <sdefabbiakane> sure' |
| 19:20:05 | <r0bby> is he a good driver |
| 19:20:09 | <r0bby> </badjoke> |
| 19:20:31 | <sdefabbiakane> so the project listed on the project page is fairly simple and somewhat vague |
| 19:20:49 | <sdefabbiakane> it asks for DB/API implementation and a sample UI to demonstrate it |
| 19:21:21 | <burke> need to understand the difference between these notes and clinical narratives (e.g., "visit notes" or "encounter notes") |
| 19:21:37 | <sdefabbiakane> right |
| 19:21:54 | <burke> I pictured these notes as (potentially threaded) attachments to various domain objects |
| 19:22:04 | <burke> more like "sticky" notes than a clinic note. |
| 19:22:13 | <sdefabbiakane> domain objects being patients, encoutners, observations, etc? |
| 19:22:18 | <djazayeri> burke: do they have to be attached to a domain object? |
| 19:22:19 | <burke> yes. |
| 19:22:26 | <sdefabbiakane> right |
| 19:22:29 | <djazayeri> Or can you just put a "sticky note" on "the patient record"? |
| 19:22:37 | <djazayeri> (I guess the domain object in that case is just the patient" |
| 19:22:39 | <burke> not based on the model. but I'm not sure we want to use this for e-mail ;) |
| 19:23:03 | <burke> I think it would have to be one of them: patient, obs, or encounter. |
| 19:23:08 | <r0bby> If we were using groovy we could use the "groovy magic" to do this :) |
| 19:23:18 | <burke> s/groovy// |
| 19:23:23 | <burke> :) |
| 19:24:00 | <r0bby> burke: I was speaking with a guy who's writing a grails app for an OB/GYN clinic |
| 19:24:17 | <r0bby> Paul pointed me to his twitter then i was able to get a hold of him |
| 19:24:32 | <r0bby> back to the Notes though |
| 19:24:33 | <burke> r0bby: I'm loving groovy. Used the Groovy module to pull out data for a study. Used it for another work project to manage some large lists. But at the moment, I'm thinking notes (not Groovy) :) |
| 19:24:47 | <sdefabbiakane> so we have this database spec that's been on the wiki for a while |
| 19:24:47 | <djazayeri> So, I tend to think that clinical notes are more valuable than threaded conversations about an obs. |
| 19:24:54 | <burke> djazayeri: can we agree that one of the domain objects must be named for a note? |
| 19:25:11 | <burke> clinical notes should be an obs or complex obs. |
| 19:25:16 | <djazayeri> Assuming that can include just the patient, then fine. |
| 19:25:44 | <djazayeri> So yes, let's agree that the note has to be about a particular domain object. |
| 19:25:49 | <sdefabbiakane> make sense |
| 19:25:58 | <sdefabbiakane> makes8 |
| 19:26:01 | <sdefabbiakane> makes* |
| 19:26:13 | <djazayeri> And optionally is also in-response-to another note about the same domain object. |
| 19:26:35 | <sdefabbiakane> in which case the domain object would be the other note? |
| 19:27:01 | <djazayeri> No, if there's a threaded conversation about encounter#123 then all those notes should point to encounter#123 |
| 19:27:19 | <djazayeri> encounter#123 would be the domain object for all of them. |
| 19:27:41 | <sdefabbiakane> so we'd need some way to track parent notes then, too |
| 19:27:56 | <djazayeri> Yes, a nullable field for parent note. |
| 19:28:04 | <sdefabbiakane> right |
| 19:28:25 | <djazayeri> One question, though: when would you want to have a Note about a patient, versus making an Obs about the patient? |
| 19:29:09 | <djazayeri> burke, can you think of any correct use case for that? |
| 19:29:22 | <burke> just a sec... |
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| 19:29:44 | <sdefabbiakane> there are a couple of examples on the project description |
| 19:30:24 | <djazayeri> Here are some random examples of notes about a patient, some of which should use notes and some shouldn't: |
| 19:30:48 | <djazayeri> * This patient's cousin has the same name and lives in the same neighborhood. Don't mix up their files. |
| 19:30:59 | <djazayeri> * This patient's paper chart was lost. |
| 19:31:26 | <djazayeri> * This patient was hospitalized for pneumonia from 1/1/02 to 1/3/02 |
| 19:31:43 | <burke> An observation is information, a note is meta-information. |
| 19:32:20 | <djazayeri> so which of those are good examples? |
| 19:32:30 | <burke> Can you provide them in spanish, please? |
| 19:32:49 | <djazayeri> Si! |
| 19:32:57 | <djazayeri> pero no quiero. |
| 19:33:01 | <burke> the first two (cousin w/ same name & paper chart was lost) are both decent patient notes |
| 19:33:16 | <sdefabbiakane> that matches my thinking |
| 19:33:19 | <burke> Things you might put on a post-it note on the chart. |
| 19:33:37 | <burke> not sure about the hospitalization stuff. ideally, that would be available *inside* the chart. |
| 19:34:27 | <sdefabbiakane> the hospitalization stuff seems like information that should go in an obs to me |
| 19:34:49 | <djazayeri> (that was my point) |
| 19:34:53 | <burke> I consider these "notes" to be things that would go on a post-it note are get scribbled on the edge of a page as meta-information about some piece of clinical data. If there is clinical data ("the patient has diabetes" or "the patient's glucose is 90 mg/dL") it should be in the chart, not in a note. |
| 19:35:12 | <burke> I worry a little about the name "note" |
| 19:35:16 | <burke> it's a bit misleading. |
| 19:35:34 | <sdefabbiakane> 'comment', maybe? |
| 19:35:44 | <burke> because people often talk of a visit note, discharge note, admission note, transfer note, etc. All of these belong *in* the chart. |
| 19:35:48 | <bwolfe> just rename the object to postitnote then. :-) |
| 19:36:00 | <burke> we would have to pay royalties on that to 3M. |
| 19:36:03 | <r0bby> PostItNote |
| 19:36:04 | <r0bby> :) |
| 19:36:06 | <sdefabbiakane> :) |
| 19:36:19 | <r0bby> Just tell 3M it's being used to save lives |
| 19:36:24 | <djazayeri> I like "comment" |
| 19:36:26 | <djazayeri> that's nice. |
| 19:36:31 | <r0bby> That's how I got Guillaume to Public Domain his code =) |
| 19:36:58 | <burke> One problem with "comment" : http://openmrs.org/wiki/SQL_Reserved_Words |
| 19:37:06 | <sdefabbiakane> oh |
| 19:37:07 | <sdefabbiakane> hmm |
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| 19:37:34 | <burke> animadversion, annotation, backtalk*, buzz*, comeback*, commentary, crack*, criticism, dictum, discussion, editorial, elucidation, exposition, footnote, gloss, hearsay, illustration, input, judgment, mention, mouthful, note, obiter, observation, opinion, remark, report, review, two cents' worth, wisecrack* |
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| 19:37:59 | <burke> sdefabbiakane: you probably missed that... animadversion, annotation, backtalk*, buzz*, comeback*, commentary, crack*, criticism, dictum, discussion, editorial, elucidation, exposition, footnote, gloss, hearsay, illustration, input, judgment, mention, mouthful, note, obiter, observation, opinion, remark, report, review, two cents' worth, wisecrack* |
| 19:38:02 | <r0bby> WiseCracK! |
| 19:38:09 | <sdefabbiakane> yeah, I did, thanks |
| 19:38:16 | <burke> definitely not "observation" :) |
| 19:38:21 | <burke> annotation? |
| 19:38:31 | <deadpool> what about remarks |
| 19:38:39 | <deadpool> i think that is pretty close to comments |
| 19:38:43 | <burke> I would like a "mouthful" table in the data model. First one to convince Paul wins!! |
| 19:39:02 | <burke> or discussion. |
| 19:39:09 | <burke> or footnote |
| 19:39:17 | <r0bby> Sold! |
| 19:39:18 | <sdefabbiakane> I like two cent's worth |
| 19:39:34 | <r0bby> bah it's easier to convince people who aren't involved in the project! |
| 19:39:36 | <burke> how about "report" . First one to convince Justin wins! |
| 19:39:47 | <djazayeri> We could call it "talk" but then we'd get sued by wikimedia |
| 19:39:52 | <r0bby> how about groovynote |
| 19:40:02 | <r0bby> sam: you need to do it in groovy :D |
| 19:40:05 | <djazayeri> *kill groovy |
| 19:40:07 | <r0bby> for that to work :) |
| 19:40:14 | <r0bby> djazayeri: awww |
| 19:40:15 | <burke> maybe just shorten "note" to "not" |
| 19:40:21 | <r0bby> you people suck :( |
| 19:40:22 | <deadpool> commentary? |
| 19:40:46 | <sdefabbiakane> hm |
| 19:40:50 | <djazayeri> Okay, so let's move on |
| 19:40:52 | <burke> remark, commentary, discussion, ... |
| 19:40:58 | <djazayeri> I personally like "remark" or "discussion" best |
| 19:40:59 | <burke> yup. fine. |
| 19:41:00 | <bwolfe> I like commentary, remark, or TwoCents'Worth |
| 19:41:14 | <djazayeri> Okay, so moving on. |
| 19:41:21 | <burke> How about "tweet" |
| 19:41:22 | <sdefabbiakane> right |
| 19:41:33 | <sdefabbiakane> are we going to limit to it 140 characters, too? |
| 19:41:33 | <burke> oops. moving on... |
| 19:41:34 | <djazayeri> That's not what I call moving on... |
| 19:41:43 | <sdefabbiakane> right |
| 19:42:27 | <djazayeri> Okay, so I think we should talk about the UI next. |
| 19:42:35 | <djazayeri> (Burke will say we should talk about the data model next.) |
| 19:42:59 | <r0bby> Tweets |
| 19:43:18 | <sdefabbiakane> I'd say UI will dictate the specifics of the data model, so that sounds good. |
| 19:43:36 | <burke> API! |
| 19:43:42 | <burke> nothing else matters. :-) |
| 19:44:15 | <burke> you can put any UI above the API and any data model below it you want. :-) |
| 19:44:23 | <burke> ok... I'll shut up. UI... |
| 19:44:29 | <sdefabbiakane> so there are a lot of different ways this could work |
| 19:45:34 | <burke> I like the direction that the Peru system took of making these look like Post-It® notes. |
| 19:45:58 | <burke> I'd even favor making them look more Post-It® note-y |
| 19:46:08 | <sdefabbiakane> yeah, visual distinction is good |
| 19:46:39 | <burke> It makes it intuitive that this is for "meta" information. |
| 19:46:48 | <sdefabbiakane> actually, before we go too much farther |
| 19:46:56 | <r0bby> Is that code for that system in the svn repo? |
| 19:47:16 | <sdefabbiakane> for domain objects, the ones I'm thinking of so far are: patient, encounter, obs |
| 19:47:19 | <burke> r0bby: no. it's one of Darius' other open-source projects. :-) |
| 19:47:27 | <djazayeri> r0bby: no, PIH's legacy peru system isn't in the OpenMRS repo. |
| 19:47:28 | <sdefabbiakane> how general do we want this to be? |
| 19:47:43 | <djazayeri> I think that the API should support making notes about any object. |
| 19:47:44 | <r0bby> djazayeri: where is this PIH repo i keep hearing about??! |
| 19:47:53 | <djazayeri> r0bby: on a server. |
| 19:48:04 | <burke> djazayeri: concept_synonym? |
| 19:48:06 | <r0bby> okay sam sorry :) go on :) |
| 19:48:19 | <sdefabbiakane> djazayeri: make sense, I don't think that'll really make it any harder |
| 19:48:33 | <sdefabbiakane> for initial UI implementation though, where would be most useful to see this working? |
| 19:48:46 | <djazayeri> burke: I don't think we need to implement that in the UI, but I wouldn't intentionally disallow it. |
| 19:48:47 | <burke> on patients and observations, IMHO. |
| 19:48:54 | <djazayeri> I think on encounters too. |
| 19:49:08 | <sdefabbiakane> ok |
| 19:49:25 | <burke> and on person attribute types. definitely! |
| 19:49:31 | <djazayeri> It's possible that we only want to allow these to refer to data and not to metadata. |
| 19:49:44 | <djazayeri> person attribute types? |
| 19:49:49 | <sdefabbiakane> ^ |
| 19:49:53 | <burke> that was sarcasm. sorry. it leaked out. |
| 19:50:01 | <burke> I've spent too much time around r0bby |
| 19:50:11 | <r0bby> ?!?! |
| 19:50:21 | <djazayeri> So, when we discuss API, we can discuss whether they only go on OpenmrsData, or on any generic object. |
| 19:50:21 | <r0bby> you make it like it's a bad thing |
| 19:50:51 | <burke> as far as initial targets: patient, obs, and encounter. would be all good early targets. |
| 19:50:54 | <djazayeri> So, as a first pass let's say you can make notes on Patient, Encounter, and Obs. |
| 19:51:01 | <burke> djazayeri: if you had to choose one, which would you do first? |
| 19:51:01 | <sdefabbiakane> sounds good |
| 19:51:06 | <djazayeri> patient. |
| 19:51:18 | <deadpool> wait quick question why wold you want to make notes on patient |
| 19:51:32 | <deadpool> all patient is identification right? |
| 19:51:39 | <burke> same reason you would put a Post-It® note on their chart. |
| 19:52:10 | <burke> it's associating a thought or (dare I say) "note" with the patient's chart so the next person to pick it up sees it. |
| 19:52:58 | <deadpool> oh so it would like "hey here is a note on this patient don't forget to read them" |
| 19:52:59 | <djazayeri> So let's start with patient. (which really should be Person) |
| 19:53:00 | <burke> e.g., "This patient is a drug seeker" |
| 19:53:09 | <deadpool> ah ok |
| 19:53:11 | <deadpool> gotcha |
| 19:53:16 | <burke> e.g., "This person is a drug seeker" |
| 19:53:23 | <r0bby> you said it twice |
| 19:53:36 | <burke> my 1st extended my 2nd. |
| 19:53:43 | <deadpool> sorry not a doctor so i am sorry if i am asking stupid questions |
| 19:53:52 | <burke> no such thing as a stupid question. |
| 19:53:54 | <r0bby> neither is darius or ben |
| 19:53:57 | <burke> even for r0bby. :-) |
| 19:54:05 | * r0bby slaps burke |
| 19:54:13 | <r0bby> I aint afraid of you! |
| 19:54:16 | * burke ducks just in time. |
| 19:54:30 | <djazayeri> So, the patient dashboard needs to show notes about that patient. And it needs to have a "add a note" button. |
| 19:54:31 | <burke> ok... starting with person. |
| 19:54:42 | <sdefabbiakane> ok |
| 19:54:48 | <burke> or is it enough to show that they have notes? |
| 19:55:06 | <burke> if there are 30 notes about a patient, do we list them all? even if most are >3 years old? |
| 19:55:12 | <sdefabbiakane> I'd say you'd want to be able to see maybe the first one or two easily, with a link to see all |
| 19:55:42 | <deadpool> hey what about merging notes but keeping it with like a date attached for older notes |
| 19:55:43 | <burke> or is it enough to show a Post-It® icon next to the patient's name or identifier? |
| 19:55:57 | <djazayeri> So, one question: if these are meant to be threaded conversations, is a Post-it note really the right thing to be thinking of? |
| 19:56:13 | <bwolfe> post-its on post-its, sure |
| 19:56:27 | <djazayeri> I think the way gmail lets you view a conversation is a good example. |
| 19:56:28 | <deadpool> and for newer notes you can keep them separate |
| 19:56:35 | <burke> or a conversation on a post-it®. we do that in clinic all the time. |
| 19:57:00 | <djazayeri> Old stuff is really compressed and should just say (10 more notes) |
| 19:57:11 | <sdefabbiakane> so question about Person instead of Patient: where in the UI do you view people and not patients? |
| 19:57:18 | <djazayeri> Semi-recent stuff has a 1-line summary |
| 19:57:24 | <djazayeri> Very recent stuff is fully displayed. |
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| 19:57:55 | <burke> we don't really view people do we? except when creating relationships or patients, right? |
| 19:57:58 | <deadpool> yeah i like djazayeri idea |
| 19:58:16 | <burke> I suggest that you do it wrong at first so that we have the opportunity to make it better. |
| 19:58:20 | <djazayeri> There is actually a person dashboard. |
| 19:58:23 | <bwolfe> there is a personDashboard |
| 19:58:29 | <burke> oh. |
| 19:58:31 | <sdefabbiakane> how do I get there? |
| 19:58:37 | <burke> you have to be a person. |
| 19:58:43 | <djazayeri> The way to get to it is to have a Patient who has a non-patient person as a relationship |
| 19:58:51 | <djazayeri> then you view the patient's record, then click on their relationship. |
| 19:58:52 | <sdefabbiakane> ah |
| 19:58:54 | <burke> obviously! |
| 19:59:14 | <sdefabbiakane> so probably the patient dashboard should be done first, then? |
| 19:59:19 | <djazayeri> The specific use case for us is that that person might be the patient's community health worker |
| 19:59:25 | <burke> why is there a dashboard for a person? |
| 19:59:33 | <djazayeri> Why wouldn't there be? |
| 19:59:37 | <burke> so you can manage their relationships? |
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| 20:00:04 | <djazayeri> If you're looking at a patient you can click on their community health worker, and then see a list of the other 3 patients that belong to that CHW. |
| 20:00:07 | <djazayeri> And you can click through to them. |
| 20:00:15 | <djazayeri> That's our use case right now. |
| 20:00:16 | <burke> because we're an electronic medical record, not an electronic record. :-) |
| 20:00:28 | <burke> that's fine. |
| 20:00:39 | <burke> we have observations about person too. |
| 20:00:47 | <djazayeri> sdefabbiakane: I think this will end up being implemented as a portlet. |
| 20:00:52 | <burke> or at least we have the ability to make obs for a person. |
| 20:01:10 | <djazayeri> The "relationships" portlet actually takes a person rather than a patient. |
| 20:01:17 | <sdefabbiakane> djazayeri: yep, that make sense. |
| 20:01:20 | <djazayeri> It takes zero extra lines of code to do it that way. |
| 20:01:47 | <sdefabbiakane> right |
| 20:02:41 | <deadpool> question: as doctors how much of your patient's records are notes |
| 20:03:23 | <djazayeri> Hopefully a very small portion. |
| 20:03:41 | <deadpool> but in reality as of right now |
| 20:04:12 | <burke> very tiny little bit if you're talking about post-it® notes. |
| 20:04:22 | <djazayeri> So, does everyone agree that we're going to have a section of the dashboard that shows notes in some compressed fashion, and has an Add button. |
| 20:04:23 | <burke> we don't really think of it as part of the chart. |
| 20:04:23 | <djazayeri> ? |
| 20:04:55 | <sdefabbiakane> djazayeri: how would that work? |
| 20:05:11 | <sdefabbiakane> (as in, how would it be laid out so as to be actually useful) |
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| 20:05:22 | <djazayeri> Oh, well, you get to mock that up and tell me. :-) |
| 20:05:36 | <sdefabbiakane> heh |
| 20:06:01 | <sdefabbiakane> similar to observations, actually, I think |
| 20:06:27 | <djazayeri> I have a few questions: |
| 20:06:30 | <djazayeri> 1. Can you delete a note? |
| 20:06:42 | <djazayeri> 2. Can you "promote" or "demote" one? |
| 20:06:52 | <burke> I think it would be more useful to see the full note for the most recent 1-3 notes than see a full list that require a click to read the note. |
| 20:06:53 | <sdefabbiakane> promote/demote? |
| 20:06:56 | <djazayeri> 3. Can you flag one as "sticky" so it always shows up on top? |
| 20:06:57 | <jmiranda> sorry for coming to the conversation a little late |
| 20:07:06 | <jmiranda> but i assume notes can be added to obs as well |
| 20:07:12 | <jmiranda> especially complex obs like x-rays |
| 20:07:15 | <burke> User can delete, API would void. |
| 20:07:15 | <djazayeri> jmiranda: to any domain object. |
| 20:07:55 | <djazayeri> I agree about having most recent (small number) be visible at first, and you have to click through to get more. |
| 20:08:17 | <djazayeri> What if a note has replies to it. Do you see the whole conversation? Or just the reply? |
| 20:08:36 | <deadpool> hey sdefabbiakane you know what i was thinking you can put a small symbol of maybe a (spoof of a post it note) and when you lets say do a mouse over like a sentence of the note will pop up and if you click on it a pop up will come of the note |
| 20:09:27 | <sdefabbiakane> hmm |
| 20:09:37 | <deadpool> just something to think about |
| 20:09:39 | <burke> I'd want to see the first and last comments in a discussion. If there a ton inbetween, collapse it. |
| 20:09:46 | <sdefabbiakane> sounds good |
| 20:10:04 | <djazayeri> deadpool: cool idea. |
| 20:10:24 | <bwolfe> deadpool: a similar icon/mouseover on the obs edit screen for "comments" on an obs |
| 20:11:23 | <deadpool> yeah |
| 20:11:23 | <djazayeri> sdefabbiakane, burke: how do you feel about being able to make some notes "promoted" or "sticky" so they always show up on top? |
| 20:11:40 | <djazayeri> i.e. "patient is a drug seeker" |
| 20:11:49 | <djazayeri> you don't want that to disappear just because it's old. |
| 20:11:50 | <burke> djazayeri: mas o menos |
| 20:11:54 | <sdefabbiakane> might be useful, I guess? |
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| 20:12:18 | <djazayeri> That can go in version 2, I guess. |
| 20:12:30 | <burke> Give them a weight and then honor my sort if I drag & drop them into another order. :-) |
| 20:12:48 | <djazayeri> For every individual user? |
| 20:12:57 | <burke> only if username="burke" |
| 20:13:01 | <deadpool> hey lets say if someone has a comment on a note would he or she add new note or be able to make an addendum to the note that has already been written so like a thread |
| 20:13:02 | <burke> all others ignored. |
| 20:13:26 | <sdefabbiakane> deadpool: notes are threaded, so the latter |
| 20:13:32 | <deadpool> ah ok |
| 20:13:35 | <djazayeri> Do we consider "threaded discussion" to be a version 1 or version 2 deliverable, actually? |
| 20:13:38 | <burke> there's a fundamental issue of whether or not these are considered part of the medical record. some would argue yes, others no. |
| 20:14:02 | <burke> if no, then edit/delete/etc. are good (anything goes). if yes (part of the medical record), then edit/delete are not allowed. |
| 20:14:14 | <djazayeri> I would lean towards implementing that in the API from the beginning, but only supporting it in the UI if there's time. |
| 20:14:18 | <burke> (of course, you can let the user think they're deleting and void behind the scenes) |
| 20:14:39 | <sdefabbiakane> djazayeri: makes sense. I don't think API support for threading conversations will be terribly difficult |
| 20:14:39 | <djazayeri> I much prefer to void behind the scenes. |
| 20:15:04 | <djazayeri> Can you "delete" a note after someone has replied to it? |
| 20:15:07 | <burke> yes. a very simple note for patient would be a good proof of concept, but focus on API. |
| 20:15:24 | <djazayeri> Okay, on that note, should we discuss the API? |
| 20:15:27 | <djazayeri> (brb) |
| 20:15:37 | <sdefabbiakane> djazayeri: yep, I think so |
| 20:15:48 | <sdefabbiakane> UI specifics are best seen, not talked about ahead of time |
| 20:16:44 | * r0bby bangs his head on his desk |
| 20:17:07 | * burke bangs his desk on his head |
| 20:17:49 | <djazayeri> back |
| 20:18:04 | <sdefabbiakane> ok |
| 20:18:52 | <sdefabbiakane> so, api |
| 20:19:24 | <djazayeri> So I'd like to be able to say something like Context.getNoteService().createNote(patient, "This is the coolest patient."); |
| 20:20:01 | <sdefabbiakane> ok |
| 20:20:19 | <djazayeri> And maybe Context.getNoteService().respond(note, "I agree"); |
| 20:20:30 | <burke> Context.getRemarkService()? |
| 20:21:46 | <djazayeri> (Yes, obviously substitute the name we choose instead of Note. |
| 20:21:49 | <sdefabbiakane> whatever we end up calling it, both of those look good to me |
| 20:22:53 | <djazayeri> burke: any methods you want to see? |
| 20:23:39 | <burke> Context.getAnythingButNoteService().getAllAnythingButNotes() |
| 20:23:54 | <djazayeri> I think you can do that with just 3 lines of groovy code. |
| 20:23:56 | <djazayeri> So sure. |
| 20:24:20 | <burke> Context.getAnythingButNoteService().getAnythingButNotes(OpenmrsObject o) /* notes related to a domain object */ |
| 20:25:00 | <jmiranda> why wouldn't you use the NoteService |
| 20:25:14 | <djazayeri> Does that return a List<Remark>? |
| 20:25:15 | <burke> visit note, admission note, discharge note, transfer note, etc. |
| 20:25:17 | <jmiranda> you're just changing the content of the note |
| 20:25:23 | <jmiranda> addNote(Patient, Note) |
| 20:25:25 | <djazayeri> Or does it return some form of a tree representing the threaded conversation? |
| 20:25:51 | <jmiranda> right now we have a "system" note service |
| 20:25:54 | <burke> I would imagine you would get a List<Remark> of the top level. |
| 20:26:06 | <jmiranda> but that can be extended to support other types of notes (like the ones we have here) |
| 20:26:06 | <burke> remark.getReponse() would take you down the thread |
| 20:26:15 | <djazayeri> jmiranda: a Note should really be an Obs. This is something else, which is why we're calling them not-note, or Remark. |
| 20:26:41 | <burke> jmiranda: we do not want to confuse/intermingle meta-conversations with clinical notes. |
| 20:27:05 | <jmiranda> i assume this was discussed at the beginning (while i was away) |
| 20:27:06 | <djazayeri> actually getResponses() |
| 20:27:10 | <djazayeri> yes |
| 20:27:16 | <jmiranda> apologies :) |
| 20:27:20 | <burke> jmiranda: most clinical notes will come as documents that belong either in obs (as complex obs) or in a text repository. |
| 20:28:37 | <burke> jmiranda: but I could be reversed. that is, maybe a single table could have all documents for a patient, including any comments on a obs vs. a discharge summary. but my gut says these are separate. |
| 20:28:45 | <burke> hey.. another option: memo. |
| 20:29:06 | <djazayeri> as in "jmiranda didn't get the memo that they're no longer called notes" |
| 20:29:12 | <djazayeri> :-) |
| 20:29:26 | <burke> Context.getMemoService().getMemo(justin) |
| 20:29:36 | <r0bby> Perfect thing to call this! |
| 20:29:38 | <r0bby> Memo |
| 20:29:42 | <sdefabbiakane> you have to add the memo first... |
| 20:29:44 | <sdefabbiakane> :) |
| 20:29:49 | <burke> Also: chat |
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| 20:29:53 | <r0bby> sdefabbiakane: magic |
| 20:30:18 | <burke> or... notice. |
| 20:30:27 | <djazayeri> Enough options. Remember how we moved on? |
| 20:30:34 | <djazayeri> (Neither do I.) |
| 20:30:45 | <sdefabbiakane> heh |
| 20:30:57 | <djazayeri> So, you should be able to create a note for a domain object. |
| 20:30:59 | <burke> I'm perseverating. |
| 20:31:09 | <djazayeri> You should be able to get all top level notes on a domain object. |
| 20:31:19 | <djazayeri> I think you should also be able to get *all* notes on a domain object. |
| 20:31:36 | <burke> yes. add replies, void them. they could have a sort weight property (for prioritizing them) |
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| 20:32:34 | <djazayeri> What would the method be? setSortWeight(note, 5.0)? |
| 20:32:58 | <djazayeri> And that would automatically push other things down below it? |
| 20:33:01 | <sdefabbiakane> and how would that affect UI behavior? |
| 20:33:12 | <sdefabbiakane> or rather |
| 20:33:16 | <sdefabbiakane> what would that be used for? |
| 20:33:35 | <r0bby> Couldn't they be sorted like FB does it, chronologically |
| 20:33:36 | <djazayeri> Well, the easy way to do things in the UI would be to have a "move up" and "move down" button. |
| 20:33:58 | <burke> maybe setIndex or setSortPosition |
| 20:34:20 | <djazayeri> Per r0bby I would lean towards not implementing that until later. |
| 20:34:26 | <r0bby> the entire thread could be stored in a List and just moved around inside of that list? |
| 20:34:26 | <sdefabbiakane> yeah |
| 20:34:46 | <r0bby> the sorting could be defined quite easily |
| 20:34:59 | <djazayeri> Just do chronological for now, and in the last week you can throw in a sort weight. |
| 20:35:06 | <sdefabbiakane> k |
| 20:35:09 | <burke> the point would be to tell the API I want this memo at this position (or relative position) and let it take care of the details. can be 2.0 feature. |
| 20:35:19 | <burke> agreed. |
| 20:35:35 | <djazayeri> Okay, moving on. |
| 20:36:07 | <djazayeri> I think it's fair to move onto the data model discussion. |
| 20:36:20 | <djazayeri> This is actually the only part that has a tricky issue to deal with... |
| 20:37:22 | <djazayeri> Unless anyone has any more API methods they want to suggest. |
| 20:37:37 | <burke> those are fine starter methods for API. |
| 20:37:44 | <burke> bring on the tricky issue |
| 20:37:46 | <sdefabbiakane> ok, so database |
| 20:38:35 | <djazayeri> An aside: looking at the proposed table structure, I notice "note_type". |
| 20:38:40 | <djazayeri> I'm sure I insisted on that. |
| 20:39:03 | <djazayeri> If you look at the screenshots here you'll see them in bold. |
| 20:39:04 | <djazayeri> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Note |
| 20:39:32 | <sdefabbiakane> so looking at that |
| 20:39:33 | <burke> We definitely use note types for clinical documents (admit note, transfer note, etc.). Not sure about memos. What were you thinking Darius? |
| 20:39:38 | <djazayeri> However at this point I guess I don't care anymore. |
| 20:39:58 | <burke> As long as we can have a note_type_type table too. ;) |
| 20:40:24 | <sdefabbiakane> how do you propose we generalize references to domain objects? |
| 20:40:28 | <burke> It makes sense for clinical notes. For memos, it's seems a little overkill. |
| 20:40:41 | <djazayeri> yeah, if a note is a post-it, you don't really need a title. |
| 20:40:41 | <burke> OpenmrsObject? |
| 20:41:08 | <sdefabbiakane> do all of those have unique ids? |
| 20:41:24 | <r0bby> When we |
| 20:41:33 | <r0bby> 're done w/ this i have a question outside the notes project |
| 20:41:34 | <djazayeri> They do have unique ids. |
| 20:41:42 | <sdefabbiakane> ok, that works then |
| 20:41:46 | <r0bby> in the meantime i'll work |
| 20:41:50 | <djazayeri> It sort of works. |
| 20:41:57 | <sdefabbiakane> oh? |
| 20:42:24 | <djazayeri> What do you envision the database table looking like? |
| 20:42:31 | <djazayeri> the relevant columns, I mean. |
| 20:43:04 | <sdefabbiakane> well, given that OpenmrsObjects have unque ids, something like: |
| 20:43:49 | <sdefabbiakane> note_id, domainobject_id, text, parent_note_id, and then the creator/voided stuff |
| 20:44:00 | <sdefabbiakane> also, priority if we want that |
| 20:44:37 | <djazayeri> Okay, to domain objects do have a uuid, which is unique across all of them. |
| 20:44:38 | <burke> s/domainobject_id/subject_id/ |
| 20:44:45 | <sdefabbiakane> sure |
| 20:44:49 | <djazayeri> But you really need a domain object class, plus an id. |
| 20:45:37 | <burke> oh. then subject_class & subject_id? |
| 20:45:42 | <sdefabbiakane> ok |
| 20:45:48 | <burke> or target_class & target_id? |
| 20:46:09 | <sdefabbiakane> I like subject |
| 20:46:54 | <burke> btw... "text" --> http://openmrs.org/wiki/SQL_Reserved_Words |
| 20:46:55 | <djazayeri> So that works as a first pass. |
| 20:47:13 | <djazayeri> But what happens when someone deletes the underlying domain object? |
| 20:47:22 | <djazayeri> (we have no foreign key reference) |
| 20:47:52 | <sdefabbiakane> when would things be deleted rather than voided? |
| 20:48:02 | <burke> Notes should not be able to be linked to anything that's deletable |
| 20:48:31 | <djazayeri> I guess technically nothing should be deleted, so that isn't a problem. |
| 20:48:36 | <burke> yup. |
| 20:48:37 | <sdefabbiakane> good |
| 20:48:50 | <burke> And I don't think you'd need to cascade voided/retires. |
| 20:49:02 | <sdefabbiakane> no, I don't think that would make sense |
| 20:49:03 | <burke> It would be fine to have a non-voided memo pointing to a voided patient. |
| 20:49:16 | <burke> or no? |
| 20:49:23 | <sdefabbiakane> makes more sense than voiding it, yes |
| 20:49:27 | <sdefabbiakane> if you unvoid a patient |
| 20:49:33 | <sdefabbiakane> presumably you want all of their notes back as well |
| 20:49:48 | <burke> as long as the person (or observation or encounter) gets voided, then the memo can remain. |
| 20:49:55 | <sdefabbiakane> right |
| 20:50:07 | <djazayeri> Last time Ben and I discussed a similar issue we decided that when you void an object, that should also void its dependent objects. |
| 20:50:22 | <djazayeri> But if you unvoid it, then all dependent objects that were voided on the same instant in time should be unvoided. |
| 20:50:29 | <burke> are memos dependent? they're related, sure. but dependent? |
| 20:50:29 | <djazayeri> However I don't know if this is implemented anywhere yet. |
| 20:50:36 | <sdefabbiakane> but then how do you decide which notes to unvoid? |
| 20:50:44 | <bwolfe> djazayeri: the VoidHandlers actually do that for you now |
| 20:50:56 | <sdefabbiakane> say a note (or memo, or whatever) is voided, and the patient it's attached to is voided |
| 20:50:56 | <bwolfe> (and the UnvoidHandler) |
| 20:51:06 | <burke> I guess it doesn't matter. if they get voided to that's fine. |
| 20:51:16 | <burke> The problem you'll have is if you allow notes on metadata. |
| 20:51:27 | <burke> then notes can either be voided or retired. |
| 20:51:39 | <burke> which is why I would vote "no" on memos for metadata. |
| 20:51:50 | <burke> we don't need metametadata. :) |
| 20:52:06 | <burke> Add a memo to a concept? |
| 20:52:14 | <burke> Andy would want that feature, I suppose. :) |
| 20:52:20 | <djazayeri> How about a note on a location? |
| 20:52:34 | <burke> So then notes get retired or voided? |
| 20:52:36 | <djazayeri> "There's a really good indian restaurant just down the street from this hospital", etc, etc. |
| 20:52:40 | <burke> er... memos. |
| 20:52:56 | <djazayeri> No, retiring a concept has no effect on memos about that concept. |
| 20:53:23 | <sdefabbiakane> question about voiding/unvoiding the domain objects we're working with |
| 20:53:39 | <burke> So, memos are only voided if they are individually (or an entire "thread") "deleted" in the UI? |
| 20:53:52 | <sdefabbiakane> oh, is that what we decided? |
| 20:54:01 | <djazayeri> Yes, or if the object they point to is "deleted" in the UI. |
| 20:54:09 | <djazayeri> (Retiring a concept != deleting it) |
| 20:54:12 | <sdefabbiakane> wait |
| 20:54:17 | <sdefabbiakane> that's what my question is about |
| 20:54:20 | <burke> So, you *do* void/retire notes if the concept is retired? |
| 20:54:30 | <djazayeri> burke: no. |
| 20:54:38 | <burke> oh. yes. purge object = purge notes. |
| 20:54:45 | <burke> s/notes/memos/ |
| 20:54:57 | <sdefabbiakane> so an object that gets unvoided/unretired comes back with no notes on it then? |
| 20:55:01 | <djazayeri> purge concept = purge its notes |
| 20:55:05 | <djazayeri> retire concept = do nothing to its notes |
| 20:55:11 | <djazayeri> purse patient = purge its notes |
| 20:55:14 | <djazayeri> (purge) |
| 20:55:19 | <djazayeri> void patient = void its notes |
| 20:55:21 | <burke> ok. when I spoke of "deleting" a note, I mean the little trash can icon the user sees & clicks that actually voids the note. |
| 20:55:27 | <burke> s/note/memo/g |
| 20:55:42 | <sdefabbiakane> djazayeri: what happens when you unvoid/unretire something? |
| 20:55:58 | <djazayeri> unvoid patient = unvoid its notes that were voided on the exact same timestamp as the patient. |
| 20:56:03 | <burke> void person --> void memos, but *not* retire concept --> retire memos? |
| 20:56:05 | <sdefabbiakane> oh, right |
| 20:56:11 | <djazayeri> burke: exactly. |
| 20:56:12 | <sdefabbiakane> timestamps |
| 20:56:16 | <sdefabbiakane> that solves that problem |
| 20:56:20 | <djazayeri> unretire concept = do nothing to its notes. |
| 20:56:29 | <burke> why not retire concept --> void memos? |
| 20:56:48 | <djazayeri> Retiring just means "we're not using this going forwards". It doesn't mean we're "deleting" it. |
| 20:57:00 | <burke> ok. |
| 20:57:06 | <djazayeri> Any memos/remarks/commentary from the peanut gallery is still relevant. |
| 20:57:11 | <burke> can you add memos to a retired concept? |
| 20:57:15 | <djazayeri> YEs. |
| 20:57:30 | <burke> ok. sounds good to me. |
| 20:57:38 | <sdefabbiakane> yep, sounds good |
| 20:58:22 | <djazayeri> bwolfe: will it be straightforward to add another VoidHander so that notes can be automatically voided when the subject they refer to is? |
| 20:59:02 | <djazayeri> looks like you'd just have to add it to BaseVoidHandler. |
| 20:59:34 | *** djazayeri changes topic to "Can I change this text?" |
| 20:59:44 | *** djazayeri changes topic to "Apparently yes. :-)" |
| 21:00:01 | <djazayeri> sorry, I'll stop playing with the UI of my irc client now. |
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| 21:00:14 | *** djazayeri changes topic to "OpenMRS Notes project." |
| 21:00:19 | <sdefabbiakane> ok, what else needs to be discussed? |
| 21:00:44 | <djazayeri> does Note extends OpenmrsMetadata? |
| 21:00:47 | <djazayeri> (I think not.) |
| 21:00:55 | <djazayeri> should it extends OpenmrsObject? |
| 21:01:31 | <bwolfe> djazayeri: your answer to your own question was correct |
| 21:01:42 | <djazayeri> (that just implies it has get/setId(Integer) and get/setUuid(String) |
| 21:01:43 | <burke> can you make a memo on a memo? (not threaded discussion, but a memo about another memo saying "I really don't like this memo") |
| 21:01:58 | <djazayeri> No, you should not be allowed to do that. |
| 21:02:12 | <djazayeri> That would mess with the space-time continuum. |
| 21:02:22 | <burke> I messed that up a long time ago. |
| 21:02:26 | <burke> ...or was it just now? |
| 21:02:36 | <djazayeri> ha ha |
| 21:03:26 | <djazayeri> So, if you can't make a remark about a remark, does that mean that a remark is not OpenmrsData? Or does it just mean that's a special case that's prohibited? |
| 21:04:03 | <burke> Does something have to be openmrsdata to get sync'd? |
| 21:04:49 | <djazayeri> Probably. |
| 21:04:59 | <burke> Memos should probably have ids/uuids, so openmrsobject. They don't need name/description. |
| 21:05:06 | <djazayeri> +1 |
| 21:05:18 | <sdefabbiakane> ok |
| 21:05:41 | <sdefabbiakane> oh, while I'm thinking of it: what version of OpenMRS should I be developing this on? the trunk, or something else? |
| 21:05:46 | <djazayeri> 1.5 |
| 21:05:55 | <sdefabbiakane> ok |
| 21:06:01 | <r0bby> burke: I think you may have lost your marbles |
| 21:06:22 | <burke> r0bby: who says I ever had marbles? |
| 21:06:49 | <r0bby> true true |
| 21:06:50 | <sdefabbiakane> so branches/1.5.x? |
| 21:06:52 | <burke> damn. that means I not only lost them... but forgot about them too! |
| 21:06:57 | <r0bby> yeh sdefabbiakane |
| 21:07:00 | <djazayeri> Sorry, my bad. |
| 21:07:02 | <burke> what's that disease when you can't remember anything? |
| 21:07:03 | <r0bby> I'm now coding against that |
| 21:07:10 | <djazayeri> Is this going to be in core, or a module? |
| 21:07:23 | <sdefabbiakane> project description says core |
| 21:07:54 | <burke> hmm. memo module? |
| 21:08:02 | <djazayeri> My new theory is that everything should be a module. |
| 21:08:14 | <djazayeri> (remind me to post a project to make Patient into a module) |
| 21:08:27 | <sdefabbiakane> so module, then? |
| 21:08:35 | <burke> memos really should/could function independently. is there a reason that core code would need to invoke addMemo(something)? |
| 21:08:51 | <burke> djazayeri: I hope you're joking. |
| 21:08:59 | <djazayeri> burke: I am joking |
| 21:09:02 | <burke> I think djazayeri should be in a module. |
| 21:09:17 | <burke> djazayeri: go get in a module. |
| 21:09:22 | <burke> please. |
| 21:09:24 | <r0bby> I think there's a think geek shirt that resembles this I can't quite remember what it said |
| 21:09:39 | <r0bby> make r0bby into an OpenMRS module, i'll be partially finished :) |
| 21:09:45 | <burke> i wrote an OpenMRS module and all I got was this stinkin' t-shirt. |
| 21:09:59 | <r0bby> That's soc in a nutshell burke :p |
| 21:10:32 | <djazayeri> So, if 'remarks' are made about domain objects... |
| 21:10:57 | <djazayeri> what happens if you start the 'remark' module, make some comments about a patient, stop the module, void the patient, and restart the module again. |
| 21:11:59 | <burke> The memo module scan the audit trail and automatically voids any of these memos. |
| 21:12:05 | <r0bby> tomcat doesn't like remote debugging OpenMRS |
| 21:12:16 | <r0bby> It throws StackOverflowExceptions |
| 21:12:16 | <djazayeri> my tomcat loves it. :-) |
| 21:12:37 | <djazayeri> burke: seriously? |
| 21:13:34 | <burke> why not. Sam can do *anything*! |
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| 21:13:54 | <sdefabbiakane> does openmrs *have* an audit trail!? |
| 21:14:02 | <r0bby> it can! |
| 21:14:03 | <burke> er... you'll have to write that too. |
| 21:14:07 | <sdefabbiakane> :P |
| 21:14:08 | <r0bby> (if it doesn't) |
| 21:14:25 | <r0bby> sdefabbiakane: careful |
| 21:14:30 | <burke> r0bby can do it in 2 lines of Groovy (if he's lazy) |
| 21:14:30 | <djazayeri> I need to leave in 5 minutes. |
| 21:14:35 | <burke> me 2 |
| 21:14:52 | <burke> I don't think we have an answer for that Darius. The same applies to any module |
| 21:14:55 | <bwolfe> logging/audit trail module: |
| 21:14:56 | <bwolfe> #ticket 1445 |
| 21:14:58 | <r0bby> burke: i converted one of the services to groovy because i was too lazy to type != null and == null |
| 21:14:58 | <djazayeri> You *could* actually look at all notes, then look at all objects they point to, and void/unvoid mismatches back in the past. |
| 21:15:01 | <r0bby> :) |
| 21:15:04 | <bwolfe> !ticket 1445 |
| 21:15:04 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Ticket #1445: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1445 |
| 21:15:14 | <burke> What if I have reports that depend on data in a reporting module, stop the module, void the data, and restart the module? |
| 21:15:24 | <sdefabbiakane> djazayeri: true. |
| 21:15:37 | <burke> Just fail gracefully. Maybe provide a data integrity check to find & clean these up. |
| 21:15:49 | <r0bby> (this would be done in the Activator ideally |
| 21:16:10 | <sdefabbiakane> alright |
| 21:16:44 | <djazayeri> Maybe have the activator run a quick check that looks for mismatches, and if it finds any it starts up a background process to clean them, or something. |
| 21:16:49 | <djazayeri> Okay, so this can be a module, right? |
| 21:16:55 | <djazayeri> No disagreement? |
| 21:16:59 | <r0bby> burke: can you pretty pretty please convince darius and mike to let me convert this stuff to groovy it's killing me knowing I can type (foo is an Object) if(!foo) { ... } |
| 21:17:02 | <r0bby> :( |
| 21:17:09 | <djazayeri> r0bby: Mike says get back to work. |
| 21:17:13 | <r0bby> I am! |
| 21:17:22 | <r0bby> I'm working |
| 21:17:48 | <burke> ...on Java! |
| 21:17:54 | <djazayeri> okay, I'll tell him that. :-) |
| 21:17:56 | <Mkop> r0bby: at least you're not forced to use C++... |
| 21:18:05 | <burke> machine language is next. |
| 21:18:14 | <r0bby> you can't do that to me! |
| 21:18:21 | <r0bby> you do, i quit! |
| 21:18:27 | <burke> I used to program in machine language. Before I had an assembler. |
| 21:18:37 | <r0bby> you're nuts |
| 21:18:39 | <r0bby> WTF |
| 21:18:44 | <sdefabbiakane> I had to do some of that this past semester =/. |
| 21:18:46 | <r0bby> now im getting stack overflows :/ |
| 21:18:49 | <deadpool> machine language you mean with 1's and 0's |
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| 21:19:06 | <Mkop> watch out for old-time CSers, they're sadistic....... |
| 21:19:15 | <r0bby> burke isn't even CS! |
| 21:19:17 | <Mkop> "If I had to go through this pain, you should have to as well! muahahaha |
| 21:19:17 | <burke> It took a long time to write code... but boy was it fast! And that's on a 8 KHz machine. |
| 21:19:18 | <deadpool> that is cruel man the lowest level i would do is assembly still do |
| 21:19:29 | <r0bby> burke is ancient you se |
| 21:19:42 | <Mkop> he's probably all of what? 35 years old? ancient! |
| 21:19:42 | <burke> I have underwear older than r0bby. |
| 21:20:03 | <sdefabbiakane> so, anything else we need to discuss on the notes project? |
| 21:20:06 | <deadpool> i dunno whether to vomit at that statement or admire you burke |
| 21:20:08 | <burke> hehe |
| 21:20:13 | <Mkop> lol |
| 21:20:28 | <burke> sdefabbiakane: will you be done in about a week or so? |
| 21:20:48 | <sdefabbiakane> burke: yes. |
| 21:20:50 | <sdefabbiakane> no |
| 21:20:54 | <r0bby> HAHA @ http://pastie.org/507790 |
| 21:20:56 | <sdefabbiakane> probably not |
| 21:20:59 | <deadpool> oh yeah just to leave you guys with something you should watch it is funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIDpCT1tOqE |
| 21:21:08 | <burke> sdefabbiakane: who's your mentor? |
| 21:21:12 | <r0bby> deadpool: look at my stack trace! |
| 21:21:15 | <sdefabbiakane> unless I aquire superhuman debugging skills |
| 21:21:36 | <sdefabbiakane> burke: mentor from openmrs or outside it? |
| 21:21:45 | <burke> both/all |
| 21:21:46 | <djazayeri> Okay, sdefabbiakane, send me an email and we can have a followup discussion, but I think your next steps are clear. |
| 21:22:01 | <djazayeri> i.e. write up the project plan |
| 21:22:06 | <sdefabbiakane> yep |
| 21:22:09 | <sdefabbiakane> i'll do that friday |
| 21:22:12 | <sdefabbiakane> won't be around tomorrow |
| 21:22:32 | <r0bby> djazayeri: have you had a chance to peek at my plan (i sent an email) |
| 21:22:34 | <Mkop> sdefabbiakane: just wondering, does your program pay? |
| 21:23:03 | <r0bby> OHHHH |
| 21:23:03 | <sdefabbiakane> burke: I've been talking with darius most closely in OpenMRS, probably norman danner outside of it would be the closest thing I have to a mentor now |
| 21:23:05 | <sdefabbiakane> Mkop: yes |
| 21:23:11 | <deadpool> r0bby: man you have your work cut out for you |
| 21:23:30 | <Mkop> how much? if you don't mind me asking |
| 21:23:35 | <r0bby> 4000 |
| 21:23:39 | <r0bby> last i looked at his program |
| 21:23:40 | <sdefabbiakane> yeah, that |
| 21:23:50 | <r0bby> Ajay Kumar told me bout it |
| 21:23:55 | <burke> sdefabbiakane: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Active_Projects#Adding_.22Note.22_Functionality_to_DB_.2F_API (feel free to edit description) |
| 21:23:57 | <r0bby> SOC paid more, so i didnt look |
| 21:23:57 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3IdL> (at openmrs.org) |
| 21:24:12 | <sdefabbiakane> burke: thanks |
| 21:24:28 | <djazayeri> r0bby: no, not yet |
| 21:24:29 | <burke> k. gotta run. later. |
| 21:24:33 | <sdefabbiakane> yeah |
| 21:24:36 | <sdefabbiakane> I should get going too |
| 21:24:41 | <Mkop> I should look at HFOSS for next year |
| 21:24:42 | <sdefabbiakane> the lab has gotten lonely... |
| 21:24:53 | <djazayeri> ciao all |
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| 21:24:59 | <deadpool> r0bby take a look at the youtube link and tell me what ya think about it |
| 21:25:05 | <Mkop> they probably have a more interesting array of projects than GSOC - openmrs is about the only gsoc thing I'm interested in |
| 21:25:22 | <sdefabbiakane> there are a bunch, yeah |
| 21:25:33 | <Mkop> sdefabbiakane: is HFOSS a classical internship, where you have to show up to an office? |
| 21:25:41 | <sdefabbiakane> sahana, gnome accessbility stuff, posit (which runs on android), a few other things |
| 21:26:18 | <sdefabbiakane> Mkop: right now we're kind of on a 9-5 schedule, although to say it's loose would be an understatement, and in a week or two we'll be setting our own hours |
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| 21:26:50 | <Mkop> but it is still an internship with an office |
| 21:26:54 | <Mkop> which is a good thing, for what I want |
| 21:27:06 | <Mkop> is it only for students? |
| 21:27:06 | <sdefabbiakane> we're at trinity college |
| 21:27:06 | <Mkop> what are the admission criteria? |
| 21:27:08 | <sdefabbiakane> so internship with a computer lab |
| 21:27:22 | <sdefabbiakane> only for students, I think |
| 21:27:41 | <sdefabbiakane> not really any formal criteria other than that I don't think |
| 21:28:01 | <r0bby> Mkop: I blame burke for my applying! |
| 21:28:53 | <r0bby> that was an amusing stackoverflow :) |
| 21:29:17 | <sdefabbiakane> anyway, I should get going. have some non-hfoss work to do before tomorrow and I need to wake up at 6:45... |
| 21:29:32 | <Mkop> seeya later, sam |
| 21:29:35 | <r0bby> I have a sink full of dishes :D |
| 21:29:37 | <sdefabbiakane> bye |
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| 21:53:58 | <r0bby> Apparently, java does not like when you define toString() for *ALL* classes, and those classes have back references to the section that defined them |
| 21:54:04 | <r0bby> so round and round we go |
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| 23:02:08 | <nribeka> bwolfe, OpenMRS Notes project? |
| 23:04:12 | <r0bby> nribeka: yes |
| 23:04:20 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [8389]: facility data: remove toString() for now; it caused a ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/8389> |
| 23:04:24 | <r0bby> it's a meeting that was going on earlier |
| 23:04:35 | <r0bby> blame darius for that |
| 23:06:38 | <nribeka> what does it means r0bby? |
| 23:07:22 | <r0bby> we were talking about it or they were |
| 23:07:24 | <r0bby> i was debugging |
| 23:07:39 | <r0bby> *ANOTHER* idea crash |
| 23:07:48 | <r0bby> these are JVM crashes :( |
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| 23:14:42 | <bwolfe> nribeka: hows indonesia ? |
| 23:18:01 | <r0bby> I wish IDEA would stop crashing constantly |
| 23:18:11 | <r0bby> while it indexes, i can't do much |
| 23:40:40 | <nribeka> it's fun |
| 23:40:50 | <nribeka> finally i got the chance to meet my family again |
| 23:43:54 | <nribeka> how's everything bwolfe? |