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| 02:30:50 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Problem list, Fx/SH - how stored? <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=448#p1588> |
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| 04:41:00 | <r0bby> I can't start coding :< |
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| 05:00:40 | <r0bby> hey smehmood :) |
| 05:01:30 | <smehmood> hey |
| 05:01:42 | <smehmood> I had a question about the FormEntry module on InfoPath |
| 05:02:29 | <smehmood> If I use InfoPath to generate Forms, can client's enter data without InfoPath installed on their machines? I read somewhere that it was only necessary for IE, but not Firefox |
| 05:02:56 | <smehmood> but that didn't quite make sense to me, since I couldn't see what on Firefox could perform the equivalent operations. Could it have just been referring to the Html FormEntry module? |
| 05:11:34 | <smehmood> ah, I guess you're not there anymore r0bby? or are you not sure exactly what the answer is |
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| 05:30:04 | <r0bby> smehmood: that is relevent to HtmlFormEntry Module |
| 05:30:13 | <r0bby> as far as i understand: infopath is needed |
| 05:45:18 | <Mkop> smehmood: I think so too |
| 05:45:32 | <Mkop> that's the reason for the push for non-infopath formentry modules |
| 05:45:47 | <Mkop> things like htmlformentry, groovyforms, things like that |
| 05:46:16 | <Mkop> also, see: http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_offset=0&comments_threadId=0&comments_parentId=3067&comments_threshold=0&thread_sort_mode=commentDate_asc&forumId=1&time_control=3600 |
| 05:46:18 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3DvP> (at support.mozilla.com) |
| 05:46:21 | <smehmood> Well, I just mean for a doctor to enter in new patient data |
| 05:46:26 | <smehmood> not to create a new form |
| 05:47:16 | <Mkop> the idea is that implementers can create forms in things other than infopath |
| 05:47:27 | <Mkop> bypass infopath entirely by having html forms instead of infopath |
| 05:47:53 | <smehmood> Right, the Implementer has InfoPath. The question is whether the computer with the server and/or the computers the doctors use will need it |
| 05:48:32 | <Mkop> as far as I can tell, if the form is an infopath form, you need infopath to fill it out |
| 05:48:46 | <Mkop> jmiranda: you're not here, I imagine.... |
| 05:50:07 | <Mkop> smehmood: out of interest, what's your connection to openmrs? |
| 05:50:11 | <Mkop> are you an implementer? |
| 05:51:33 | <smehmood> My friend is an implementer |
| 05:51:46 | <smehmood> I'm his computer science major friend who's trying to help him figure out this issue |
| 05:51:56 | <Mkop> where do you live? |
| 05:51:59 | <smehmood> My friend will be implementing OpenMRS in Sierra Leone this summer |
| 05:52:02 | <smehmood> I live in New Jersey |
| 05:52:06 | <smehmood> he lives in Canada |
| 05:52:15 | <smehmood> we both go to university in New Jersey |
| 05:52:26 | <Mkop> where in NJ? |
| 05:52:34 | <smehmood> Princeton |
| 05:52:42 | <Mkop> oooh |
| 05:52:44 | <Mkop> I go to Penn |
| 05:52:55 | <Mkop> does that mean we're not allowed to talk to each other? :-P |
| 05:53:36 | <smehmood> Haha, I'm sure we can get along for the sake of an open-source EMR system |
| 05:53:47 | <smehmood> Are you an implementer? |
| 05:53:48 | <Mkop> yeah, I guess we can force ourselves |
| 05:54:15 | <Mkop> I'm a hobby developer |
| 05:54:18 | <Mkop> if you can call me that |
| 05:54:23 | <Mkop> I'm relatively new around here |
| 05:54:50 | <Mkop> there's a few strata of developers around here |
| 05:55:14 | <Mkop> there's a group of about 8 people who work full time on OpenMRS or related stuff |
| 05:56:03 | <Mkop> jmiranda, ben wolfe, paul biondich, burke, brian mckown, etc. |
| 05:56:46 | <Mkop> then there are people like r0bby, nribeka, Keelhaul, and people like that most of whom have gone through google summer of code or are otherwise working on openmrs but not full time |
| 05:56:51 | <Mkop> then there are idiots like me |
| 05:57:04 | <Mkop> I'm a gopher, essentially |
| 05:57:21 | <Mkop> if this were a real office, I'd be the guy getting coffee for the first two groups |
| 05:57:38 | <smehmood> haha |
| 05:57:44 | <Mkop> but since that doesn't quite work over IRC, I do small tickets cleaning up code, stuff like that |
| 05:57:50 | <smehmood> So you're an OpenMRS dev, and not an implementer? |
| 05:57:55 | <Mkop> yes |
| 05:57:58 | <smehmood> ah ok |
| 05:57:58 | <Mkop> you should become a dev |
| 05:58:01 | <Mkop> it's fun |
| 05:58:23 | <Mkop> is your friend in touch with the implementers community via the implementers mailing list? |
| 05:58:24 | <smehmood> What confused me about this whole thing is that I went to demo.openmrs.org and I was able to edit an Observation on a patient |
| 05:58:38 | <smehmood> and I'm on Ubuntu, so I certainly don't have InfoPath |
| 05:58:55 | <Mkop> not all data entry needs to be done via forms |
| 05:58:56 | <smehmood> yeah.. he's on the mailing list. He should probably just send out his question to there |
| 05:59:04 | <Mkop> you can edit them manually |
| 05:59:20 | <smehmood> and "editing them manually" means editing them via HTML forms? |
| 05:59:24 | <Mkop> but forms are often easier when you're dealing with a set list of things that you want to add |
| 05:59:36 | <nribeka> Mkop, i'm guessing everyone is on vacation or sleeping right now :P |
| 05:59:39 | <Mkop> editing them manually means without any kind of forms |
| 06:00:05 | <Mkop> what you did did not use any forms |
| 06:00:14 | <smehmood> I mean, it used an HTML form |
| 06:00:23 | <smehmood> I looked at the source |
| 06:00:32 | <Mkop> i.e. it used html forms in the technical sense, but it didn't use the HTMLFormEntry module |
| 06:00:36 | <smehmood> ah ok |
| 06:00:46 | <smehmood> yeah, that's what I was asking, sorry |
| 06:00:47 | <Mkop> we mean form in a slightly different sense from what you're thinking of |
| 06:01:12 | <smehmood> yep, I get that now |
| 06:01:21 | <Mkop> nribeka: do you know, are there any examples of screenshots of forms that we could see? |
| 06:01:28 | <smehmood> a form instance is an XML document, and a form in the abstract sense is an XML Schema? |
| 06:02:52 | <nribeka> hmm ... i'm not sure such example exist Mkop |
| 06:03:26 | <Mkop> smehmood: I'm not sure.... |
| 06:03:36 | <nribeka> quick search: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Creating_Forms_in_OpenOffice |
| 06:03:37 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1mnD> (at openmrs.org) |
| 06:04:06 | <nribeka> is that kind of screenie you're looking for? |
| 06:04:31 | <nribeka> or this one? |
| 06:04:32 | <nribeka> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Html_Form_Entry_Module |
| 06:04:38 | <smehmood> nribeka: I'm actually looking for how a doctor would interact with a form, so data entry, not form creation. |
| 06:05:36 | <Mkop> smehmood: those pages have screenshots of what a form would look like |
| 06:06:01 | <nribeka> look at the second link. is it like that? |
| 06:06:17 | <smehmood> Yeah, I see it in the Html_Form_Entry_Module , but I was curious how it would look in the ragular FormEntry module, but in any case, I think I have my question answered. |
| 06:06:26 | <Mkop> ~videos |
| 06:06:29 | <Mkop> !videos |
| 06:06:29 | <OpenMRSBot> Mkop: "videos" --- http://openmrs.blip.tv |
| 06:06:30 | <smehmood> The upshot of all this is that this clinic is going to need Windows and Office licenses |
| 06:06:35 | <Mkop> look at those videos |
| 06:06:40 | <Mkop> one of them has an example of entering data |
| 06:06:54 | <Mkop> smehmood: if you're going to use infopath form entry, then yes |
| 06:07:16 | <Mkop> unless you get SharePoint server, in which case you won't necessarily need that |
| 06:07:33 | <Mkop> if that cost is a concern, then use htmlformentry instead of infopath |
| 06:07:37 | <smehmood> Thanks Mkop |
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| 06:08:10 | <nribeka> awesome Mkop :) |
| 06:08:44 | <smehmood> Cyarn: is my friend, the implementer |
| 06:08:59 | <Mkop> hi, Cyarn! |
| 06:09:41 | <Mkop> apparently you go to some community college in NJ, I hear.... |
| 06:09:45 | <Mkop> (I go to Penn) :-P |
| 06:10:23 | <smehmood> yeah, this video basically answers the questions I had, thanks again Mkop |
| 06:10:26 | <nribeka> hi Cyarn |
| 06:10:53 | <Mkop> smehmood: you're looking at the simple data collection video? |
| 06:10:58 | <smehmood> yeah |
| 06:11:21 | <smehmood> so the server could run on Linux, and the OpenMRS software can handle the XML document just fine without InfoPath |
| 06:11:26 | <smehmood> but all the clients need InfoPath |
| 06:11:41 | <Mkop> yeah |
| 06:12:25 | <Mkop> see also: http://www.mail-archive.com/openhealth@yahoogroups.com/msg01650.html |
| 06:12:27 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3DvV> (at www.mail-archive.com) |
| 06:16:36 | <nribeka> bed time guys ... |
| 06:16:41 | <nribeka> cya laters |
| 06:16:48 | <Mkop> seeya, nribeka |
| 06:19:18 | <smehmood> See, I've never gotten around to doing real dev work for an open source project |
| 06:19:28 | <smehmood> I always wanted to do GSoC but I never had a free summer |
| 06:19:48 | <Mkop> smehmood: you don't need to do it full time like that |
| 06:19:55 | <smehmood> I sort of do some dev stuff for Django, but I've never submitted a patch |
| 06:20:08 | <Mkop> join the dev list, checkout the svn, look at some intro tickets, and have fun |
| 06:20:14 | <smehmood> though I may do it this summer if someone doesn't get to it first |
| 06:20:20 | <smehmood> OpenMRS is all JSP, right? |
| 06:21:05 | <Mkop> it's too late for GSoC now |
| 06:21:08 | <Mkop> it starts tomorrow |
| 06:21:18 | <Mkop> java, jsp, some javascript here and there |
| 06:21:19 | <smehmood> no no, I mean submit a few patches for Django |
| 06:21:28 | <smehmood> I'm working at Microsoft this summer actually |
| 06:21:31 | <Mkop> oh |
| 06:21:33 | <Mkop> cool! |
| 06:21:38 | <Mkop> in WA? |
| 06:21:44 | <smehmood> yep, Redmond |
| 06:22:00 | <Mkop> doing what? |
| 06:22:17 | <smehmood> interning with the Live Mesh group |
| 06:22:23 | <smehmood> on the backend side |
| 06:22:27 | <smehmood> I don't know exactly what yet |
| 06:23:02 | <smehmood> maybe something analyzing different policies for storing data |
| 06:23:26 | <smehmood> content distrubtion network type stuff |
| 06:25:32 | <Mkop> cool |
| 06:25:46 | <smehmood> what year are you? Are you a CS student at Penn? |
| 06:27:06 | <Mkop> I'm actually a bioengineering student |
| 06:27:11 | <Mkop> though I'm a computer geek |
| 06:27:17 | <Mkop> just finished my junior year |
| 06:27:47 | <smehmood> ah ok |
| 06:28:18 | <smehmood> OpenMRS makes sense then |
| 06:31:17 | <Mkop> yep |
| 06:31:48 | <Mkop> I'm going to be working this summer for a lab at Penn optimizing image analysis software for optical breast imaging |
| 06:39:34 | <Cyarn> thanks for your help, mkop. |
| 06:39:36 | <smehmood> cool |
| 06:39:46 | <Mkop> Cyarn: my pleasure :-) |
| 06:40:21 | <smehmood> bioengineering always sounded cool |
| 06:40:32 | <Mkop> Cyarn: I'm interested - are you doing some program that's taking you out to Sierra Leone? |
| 06:40:45 | <smehmood> they don't have the major at Princeton, though there's a fair amount of computational and quantitative biology stuff you can do |
| 06:40:49 | <smehmood> not really the same though |
| 06:42:32 | <Mkop> yeah |
| 06:42:37 | <Mkop> interesting that they don't have it |
| 06:51:01 | <Cyarn> I'm going to work in the clinic funded by this NGO: http://www.goact.org/ |
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| 07:01:28 | <smehmood> alright Mkop it was nice to meet you, I think I'm headed to bed |
| 07:02:11 | <Cyarn> good night mkop. thanks again. |
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| 07:04:55 | <Mkop> nice to meet both of you |
| 07:05:05 | <Mkop> smehmood: feel free to pass that on to Cyarn |
| 07:05:28 | <Mkop> I'm currently in mountain time so it's only 1 AM for me |
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| 15:20:14 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Installation of Latest Stable Release 1.4.2 <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=449#p1589> || Lu Zhuang Wei: Weekly Report for project(2009-05-24) <http://lzwgsoc.blogspot.com/2009/05/weekly-report-for-project2009-05-24.html> |
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| 18:00:26 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Dilupa Munindradasa: GSoC2009 - Quartz Module Updates <http://djmlog103.blogspot.com/2009/05/gsoc2009-quartz-module-updates.html> |
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| 19:45:54 | <Mkop> hi all |
| 19:53:03 | <nribeka> hi Mkop |
| 19:53:09 | <nribeka> nobody is here i think |
| 19:53:10 | <nribeka> :D |
| 19:53:11 | <nribeka> hahaha |
| 19:53:17 | <Mkop> you're here |
| 19:53:20 | <Mkop> Keelhaul is here |
| 19:53:24 | <Keelhaul> lies |
| 19:53:24 | <Mkop> r0bby is here, I bet |
| 19:54:50 | <nribeka> i'm not here |
| 19:54:51 | <nribeka> lol |
| 19:55:31 | <Keelhaul> working out when it's hot is tedious |
| 19:55:39 | <Keelhaul> feel like throwing up |
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| 20:19:38 | <JustJim> Hi all |
| 20:39:14 | <Mkop> hi, JustJim |
| 20:40:01 | <JustJim> Just applied with pih to be a mentor and was wondering if anyone could give me an idea what this would ential? |
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| 20:57:47 | <Keelhaul> programming mentor in rwanda? |
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| 21:10:43 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Nimantha Baranasuriya: GSOC 2009 Results Announced <http://nimanthab.blogspot.com/2009/04/gsoc-2009-results-announced.html> || Nimantha Baranasuriya: Data Integrity Module for OpenMRS - Week 1 progress <http://nimanthab.blogspot.com/2009/04/data-integrity-module-for-openmrs-week.html> || Nimantha Baranasuriya: Data Integrity Module for OpenMRS - Week 2 progress <http://nimanthab.blogspot.com/2009/05/data-integrity-module-for-openmrs-week.html> |
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| 21:42:44 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1519 (defect created): Cannot retire form in 1.4.2 <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1519> |
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| 22:41:53 | <JustJim> yep |
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