IRC Chat : 2009-05-14 - OpenMRS

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00:45:40 <Mkop> bwolfe: some of the new methods replacing the old deprecated ones are so ugly
00:45:56 <Mkop> orderList = os.getDrugOrders(); becomes orderList = os.getOrders(null, null, null, null, null, null, null);
00:46:44 <bwolfe> there has to be a parameter in there somewhere...
00:48:09 <Mkop> it's getting all the orders for some reason
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01:32:46 <nribeka> need to sleep but can't sleep
01:32:47 <nribeka> :(
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01:36:15 * r0bby sighs
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01:50:58 * r0bby gets to work on fixing his mess
01:51:47 <r0bby> .gg
01:51:48 <r0bby> er
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02:28:21 <Keelhaul> http://www.academic.marist.edu/~jzbv/SoftwareDevelopment/MedicalRecordsSystem.htm
02:28:23 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3BeP> (at www.academic.marist.edu)
02:28:32 <Keelhaul> all that as an assignment for one class =o
02:28:39 <r0bby> marisT!
02:28:48 <r0bby> marist is right near me :)
02:29:12 <Keelhaul> o rly
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02:46:14 <Keelhaul> seriously
02:46:20 <Keelhaul> what a waste of effort =/
02:46:31 <Keelhaul> they should have classes about contributing to openmrs instead =)
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03:00:22 <Keelhaul> r0bby: is your bday in an hour or for another hour? =o
03:05:54 <r0bby> hr.
03:05:58 <r0bby> 55 mins
03:06:11 <r0bby> technically I wasn't born til ~930ish am
03:06:23 <r0bby> I forgot the exact time
03:06:36 <Keelhaul> why are all those assholes wishing you a happy bday already then
03:06:49 <r0bby> early :P
03:06:57 <r0bby> FB notifies you like two days in advance.
03:07:02 <r0bby> sometimes 3.
03:07:34 <Keelhaul> 1982 huh
03:07:37 <Keelhaul> hah
03:07:48 <Keelhaul> this means you'll no longer be in your mid 20s in an hour, but in your late =P
03:07:54 <r0bby> :(
03:08:00 <r0bby> closer to 30 :(
03:08:04 <Keelhaul> yea
03:08:08 <Keelhaul> a bit more than a year for me
03:08:12 * r0bby gets out the rope
03:09:56 <r0bby> I went and got a universal AC adapter for my computer :)
03:10:00 <r0bby> plus a decent mic :)
03:11:46 <r0bby> whoa that was shocking
03:12:32 <Keelhaul> ac adapter?
03:12:36 <Keelhaul> is it a laptop
03:12:38 <r0bby> yup
03:12:41 <Keelhaul> o
03:12:46 <r0bby> I forgot mine
03:12:47 <r0bby> :x
03:13:00 <Keelhaul> arent laptop psus like 200 bucks
03:13:03 <Keelhaul> or 100
03:13:48 <r0bby> shrug
03:13:50 <r0bby> not too bad
03:13:54 <r0bby> It's a good backup to have
03:13:59 <r0bby> since soc starts soon
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03:32:07 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7740]: datasetbuilder: Added missing css style sheets and jquery dataTables … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7740>
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04:01:28 <Keelhaul> r0bby: happy bday! =)
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04:45:47 <nribeka> r0bby: happy bday ...
04:45:48 <nribeka> i can
04:45:51 <nribeka> 't sleep
04:45:54 <nribeka> :(
04:47:26 <upul> count sheep nribeka
04:47:39 <upul> r0bby: you're old
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05:14:51 <nribeka> hahahaha that's not a good idea upul
05:14:52 <nribeka> :(
05:16:06 <upul> nribeka: it is supposed to work. follow the instructions :-) http://www.wikihow.com/Count-Sheep
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05:31:45 <nribeka> it
05:31:52 <nribeka> 's not working upul
05:31:54 <nribeka> huhuhuhu
05:32:14 <upul> how many did you count nribeka
05:35:54 <nribeka> i can't imagining them
05:35:55 <nribeka> :(
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06:07:21 <r0bby> I WANT CAKE!
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06:17:56 <harshini> hello all
06:22:01 <nribeka> i want to sleep
06:22:11 <nribeka> hello harshini
06:23:34 <harshini> i am getting problem while adding a module to the openmrs trunk
06:24:10 <nribeka> what are you trying to perform harshini?
06:27:52 <harshini> i want to add registration module
06:30:18 <nribeka> and there is error when you do that?
06:30:41 <harshini> ya
06:30:44 <harshini> Unable to refresh the WebApplicationContext
06:31:01 <harshini> this was the exception
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06:42:54 <nribeka> where's the exception harshini?
06:49:41 <harshini> exception is : Unable to refresh the WebApplicationContext
06:50:45 <harshini> the same exception iam getting while adding other modules also
06:51:50 <Mkop2> harshini: can you pastebin the log?
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07:19:41 <harshini> ontext log INFO: Initializing Spring FrameworkServlet 'openmrs' May 14, 2009 12:46:25 PM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log INFO: Initializing Spring root WebApplicationContext May 14, 2009 12:46:45 PM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext log INFO: Initializing Spring FrameworkServlet 'springapp' May 14, 2009 12:47:29 PM org.apache.catalin
07:20:40 <harshini> this is the log content which iam getting while adding the modules
07:38:33 <pascal`> those are info messages, not errors
07:41:44 <harshini> apart from that i didnt get any messages
07:43:29 <harshini> the error is : nested exception is org.springframework.beans.BeanInstantiationException: Could not instantiate bean class [org.openmrs.module.registration.web.controller.MainFormController]: Constructor threw exception; nested exception is java.lang.Error: Unresolved compilation problems: The import org.dom4j cannot be resolved
07:44:27 <harshini> it is not able to instantiate the bean class which is specified in the applicationcontext
07:44:39 <r0bby> it's my birthday, GIMME CAKE!
07:45:18 <r0bby> YES!!
07:46:35 <pascal`> yes, because dom4j can't be found
07:46:45 <pascal`> happy birthday r0bby
07:47:32 <r0bby> happy birthday r0bby!
07:47:35 <r0bby> the code works
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08:18:34 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7741]: groovy module: commit this now since it seems to work; I still need to … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7741>
08:50:38 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1441 (defect closed): Groovy Module: Send printed output to client <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1441#comment:3> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1428 (enhancement closed): Groovy Module: Print output as it happens <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1428#comment:5> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1443 (defect closed): Groovy Module: exceptions are not properly captured <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1443#comment:2> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7742]: groovy module: don't include dwr or spring classes in the stacktrace. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7742>
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09:22:38 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7743]: groovy module: add the js files <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7743> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1427 (enhancement closed): Groovy Module: Add line numbers and make the input box expandable <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1427#comment:17>
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09:27:36 <nribeka-mobile> Didn't get any sleep
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09:54:39 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7744]: groovy module: make it so that the only code referenced is the script … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7744>
09:56:48 <pascal`> commit commit commit
09:57:18 <upul> suicide?
09:57:27 <upul> :-D
10:10:44 <pascal`> i hope not
10:12:15 <upul> or commit crime
10:12:41 <pascal`> or commit source code
10:13:07 <upul> increase statistics in the prison count :-D
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12:01:55 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7745]: dataintegrity: changed the code base to run the test class successfully <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7745>
12:02:24 <pascal`> hey bwolfe
12:02:34 <bwolfe> good morning
12:02:50 <pascal`> yes it was, thanks
12:02:57 <pascal`> u?
12:05:45 <bwolfe> heh
12:06:01 <bwolfe> I haven't had enough of the morning to make that call yet. :-)
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12:47:23 <upul> Children in government camps now http://defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090513_11 , 1984 it was this http://defence.lk/LTTE/atro.asp?id=1984
12:48:17 <pascal`> war is crazy
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12:48:46 <harshini> hi all
12:48:55 <harshini> i am an intern for gsoc2009
12:48:55 <pascal`> hi
12:49:03 <harshini> i need help
12:49:11 <pascal`> cool, what project?
12:49:18 <pascal`> i think we all need help
12:49:21 <harshini> while deploying th ehello world module i am getting an error
12:49:26 <harshini> role based home page
12:49:40 <pascal`> oh cool
12:49:47 <pascal`> i think i know the error
12:49:57 <pascal`> is it when deploying, or when trying to add a new response?
12:50:09 <pascal`> what exactly is the error?
12:50:19 <harshini> it says helloworld.repeatnumber must be defined while deploying the module
12:50:31 <harshini> it is while deployin
12:50:56 <harshini> i think its refering to some table in the database
12:50:58 <pascal`> hmm
12:51:12 <harshini> pascal did ur hello world got deployed
12:51:13 <pascal`> no, it's referring to a global property
12:51:33 <pascal`> on the admin screen, ender the the maintenance heading, go to manage global properties
12:51:40 <harshini> but where are they setting the global properties
12:51:48 <pascal`> add a property called helloworld.repeatnumber
12:52:11 <pascal`> it's strange, because if i remember correctly it's supposed to add it by itself... hmm...
12:53:11 <harshini> what should be the value
12:53:22 <pascal`> any number
12:53:28 <pascal`> mine is 3
12:56:24 <harshini> thanks
12:56:30 <harshini> got it working
12:56:33 <harshini> well :)
12:56:49 <harshini> its giving me errors in other modules too
12:57:00 <harshini> i will let you know once i encounter them
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13:01:04 <pascal`> glad it's working
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13:37:00 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7746]: in patientmatching module, added code to keep scratch matching table … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7746>
13:50:20 <Keelhaul> heh
13:50:26 <Keelhaul> i like darius' proposal
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14:00:25 <jmiranda> Keelhaul: which proposal?
14:00:34 <Keelhaul> in the mailing list
14:00:42 <Keelhaul> about remodelling user/patient/person
14:00:57 <pascal`> yeah, i like it too
14:01:20 <pascal`> i haven't read it... but the way it is now is... well... i think it could be refactored
14:01:41 <Keelhaul> lol
14:03:06 <pascal`> you disagree?
14:03:18 <Keelhaul> no
14:03:25 <Keelhaul> just liked your reasoning
14:03:49 <pascal`> well i'm sure there is a good reason it is the way that it is
14:03:59 <pascal`> but i'm guessing it got there due to organic growth
14:04:04 <pascal`> so maybe it's time for a refactor
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14:07:30 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7747]: reporting module: Add clone method to EvaluationContext <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7747>
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14:39:06 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7749]: reporting module: Ensure BaseCohortDefinitionService is appropriately … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7749> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7748]: reporting module: Fix MapDataSet to throw an exception if an illegal … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7748>
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15:43:10 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7750]: serialization: add the second solution for short serializtion <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7750>
15:59:53 <upul> The final stage of the hostage rescue mission has commenced. 4000 civilians have been rescued so far. the number could be between 20,000 and 50,000. ..there is a high possibility of the LTTE attempting a large scale civilian catastrophe. Recently returned civilians have confirmed the Tigers have buried a substance, similar to white phosphorous, in large gunny sacks in and around civilian settlements. (http://defence.lk/new.asp?fname=20090514_09) ..con
15:59:53 <upul> fident the battle will be over in the next 2 days. -- defencewire
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18:23:21 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7751]: Slight wording change in Add/Edit Program page <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7751> || Justin Miranda: Update: OpenMRS Test-a-Thon (May 16 - 17) <http://blog.justinmiranda.com/2009/05/may-16-17-openmrs-pre-gsoc-test-thon.html>
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18:28:40 <r0bby> bwolfe: =)
18:28:47 <r0bby> test out the groovy module
18:28:58 <r0bby> (saving does not work; but the running of the script does!)
18:29:17 <bwolfe> heh, so its back to original functionality? :-p
18:29:23 <r0bby> yup!
18:29:27 <r0bby> dont release it though
18:29:35 <r0bby> I closed a bunch of tickets related to it.
18:29:47 <r0bby> and groovy code crept in slowly
18:30:15 <r0bby> I compile to bytecode and use groovy purely because I <3 the language semantics :)
18:30:20 <r0bby> it was funny
18:30:29 <r0bby> they add a .append() method to arraylist
18:30:37 <r0bby> doing list << foo
18:30:52 <r0bby> seemed to fix the problem, not sure _why_
18:31:10 <r0bby> the stacktrace is cleaned up to remove *ALL* references outside of your code.
18:32:32 <r0bby> it's damn near an exact clone of the groovy web console w/ DWR !
18:32:33 <r0bby> :D
18:34:14 <bwolfe> cool
18:34:24 <bwolfe> now I want the feature I actually asked for. ;-)
18:35:29 <r0bby> You got the feature you wanted
18:35:31 <r0bby> Line #s!
18:35:46 <r0bby> and resizing text box.
18:35:47 <r0bby> :)
18:36:00 <r0bby> the saving?
18:36:12 <r0bby> you wanted line #s
18:36:16 <r0bby> i gave you line #s!
18:36:31 <r0bby> you wanted resizing textbox -- i gave you a resizable textbox!
18:37:37 <r0bby> drag the corner of the textbox.
18:37:47 <r0bby> or the edges.
18:38:17 <r0bby> I gotta go get ready -- it's mah birthday.
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18:43:34 <bwolfe> r0bby: happy birthday! :_)
18:43:37 <bwolfe> *:-)
18:43:48 <bwolfe> party hat: <:-)
18:44:27 <bwolfe> cigar: :-)-~
18:48:51 <r0bby> I want cake
18:49:47 * r0bby is tempted to use figlet right now.
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18:50:15 <r0bby> oh
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18:50:26 <r0bby> LOL
18:50:30 <r0bby> and justin does it~!
18:50:31 <r0bby> lol
18:50:39 <jmiranda> happy birthday
18:50:41 <r0bby> :P
18:52:48 <bwolfe> on my client it looks like someone punched your cake in the side
18:53:14 <r0bby> bwolfe: to try the exception but
18:53:17 <r0bby> just type
18:53:19 <r0bby> throw null
18:53:24 <r0bby> (that throws a NPE)
18:53:29 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7753]: groovy module: add the final modifier to all local variables and … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7753> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7752]: ncd: fixed a minor javadoc typo. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7752>
18:53:42 <bwolfe> r0bby: send me the omod, I don't have groovy checked out right now
18:53:51 <r0bby> let me ensure it all works
18:53:54 <r0bby> locally
18:54:01 <r0bby> (i commited it as soon as i got it working!)
18:57:45 <r0bby> sending it to burke as well
18:59:43 <r0bby> lemme know what ya think
19:06:42 <r0bby> check email ben
19:12:10 <bwolfe> cool, seems to work
19:12:17 <bwolfe> whats the hotkey to execute it ?
19:13:30 <r0bby> none yet
19:13:41 <r0bby> I'm working on that
19:13:54 <r0bby> reason i left that ticket and the saving of the script tthe db ticket open
19:14:06 <r0bby> i tested using all the sample scripts on the wiki page :)
19:14:14 <bwolfe> that would explain why I couldn't figure it out then. :-)
19:16:27 <r0bby> yeh
19:16:37 <r0bby> I'm thinking f2
19:16:47 <r0bby> ctrl+R seems to do something else :)
19:16:58 <bwolfe> control-r is used by the browser to refresh
19:17:03 <bwolfe> how about control-enter?
19:17:08 <bwolfe> or shift-enter ?
19:17:20 <bwolfe> or control-shift-alt-7
19:17:22 <r0bby> that'll work :)
19:17:41 <bwolfe> or control-shift-alt-7-hypen-backspace-swirlygig ?
19:17:44 <r0bby> http://www.openjs.com/scripts/events/keyboard_shortcuts/v1.php
19:17:46 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3Bnv> (at www.openjs.com)
19:17:48 <r0bby> I found that last night!
19:18:13 <r0bby> http://www.openjs.com/scripts/events/keyboard_shortcuts/index.php
19:18:14 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3Bnw> (at www.openjs.com)
19:18:17 <r0bby> better version "_
19:18:33 <r0bby> after googling how to do it :)
19:18:48 <bwolfe> surely jquery gives you something like this...
19:19:04 <r0bby> I don't think it does, maybe a plugin
19:19:08 <r0bby> I'll look later on
19:20:05 <r0bby> WHOA!
19:20:16 <r0bby> http://rikrikrik.com/jquery/shortkeys/
19:20:25 <r0bby> thanks ben :)
19:21:02 <r0bby> :D
19:21:19 <r0bby> sorr bout tab
19:21:30 <r0bby> the new code editor uses tabs so you can indent your code :)
19:22:49 <r0bby> Okay, i'll look at this later
19:22:54 <r0bby> much as I want to...
19:23:36 <r0bby> NICE!!!
19:23:43 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7754]: reporting module: Null checks to CohortDefinitionDimension <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7754>
19:23:54 <r0bby> I should also integrate this: http://rikrikrik.com/jquery/autosave/
19:24:13 <r0bby> barring i dont break again!
19:24:16 <r0bby> ok im gonna go
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19:39:40 <bwolfe> welcome tamasiaina, what brings you our way? :-)
19:42:28 <tamasiaina> Just setting up an openmrs system :)
19:42:54 <tamasiaina> I am planning to do some development to keep up my java skills
19:43:53 <bwolfe> ah, very cool
19:45:36 <bwolfe> well, let us know if you have any questions
19:46:24 <tamasiaina> Yeah for sure
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19:50:09 <r0bby> :) welcome :)
19:51:39 <bwolfe> r0bby: I thought you had a birthday party to get to ... ?
19:52:31 <r0bby> nah
19:52:34 <r0bby> I had to shower lol
19:55:37 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7756]: ncd: partial progress hibernate mapping object renaming and javadoc … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7756> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7755]: groovy module: add ant jars; add IDEA module; idea build/ to ignore list; … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7755>
20:30:32 <r0bby> hrm
20:30:34 <r0bby> oops
20:30:41 <r0bby> screwy commit msg i dont care
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20:59:41 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7757]: global-property-types branch: Add date_created, created_by, voided, … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7757> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #919 (defect closed): BIRT throws "Failed to prepare the following query ..." during report generation <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/919#comment:3>
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23:47:42 * Mkop is frustrated
23:47:56 * Mkop never uses profanities, but is very close to using them with his partner for his final project
23:52:55 <Keelhaul> *bleep*
23:53:38 <Mkop> Keelhaul: was that you trying to say his name?
23:53:58 <Keelhaul> whose =o
23:54:24 <Mkop> my group member's
23:54:26 <Mkop> grrrrrr
23:54:35 <Keelhaul> no, bleeping out your profanities
23:54:55 <Mkop> if you would have said his name it also would have to be bleeped out
23:54:58 <Keelhaul> hmm
23:55:09 <Keelhaul> looks like i have little experience with mailing lists
23:55:11 <Mkop> every single thing I have to explain to him
23:55:25 <Mkop> and then he doesn't answer his phone
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23:55:29 <Mkop> and then he doesn't do work
23:55:32 <Keelhaul> i partially quoted burke's last post and forgot the rest will disappear from the mail
23:55:33 <Mkop> and then grrrrrr
23:55:42 <Keelhaul> used to forums =/
23:55:48 <Mkop> what do you mean "will disappear from the mail"
23:56:00 <Keelhaul> i only adressed the last part of his last mail
23:56:07 <Keelhaul> and replaced the rest with [...]
23:56:20 <Mkop> yeah, what's wrong with that?
23:56:22 <Keelhaul> well
23:56:27 <Keelhaul> it's a mail, not a forum
23:56:35 <Keelhaul> if you delete parts, they're gone from that mail
23:56:54 <Keelhaul> in case someone wants to address something else he said, they'd have to reply to an earlier mail
23:56:57 <Keelhaul> so theres a split
23:57:10 <Keelhaul> but i guess it's ok since i hardly ever get replies
23:57:15 <Mkop> I am a fan of selective quoting
23:57:23 <Mkop> only quote the part you're replying to
23:57:26 <Mkop> especially on mailing lists
23:57:42 <Mkop> I would have trimmed even more than you did
23:57:43 <Keelhaul> are you on the dev list
23:57:47 <Mkop> yes
23:57:56 <Keelhaul> look the last 2 mails on patient/user
23:58:00 <Keelhaul> +at
23:58:10 <Mkop> the mailing list I participate heavily on uses bottom quoting
23:58:17 <Mkop> which really requires trimming quotes
23:58:26 <Mkop> I think it's good that way
23:58:58 <Keelhaul> i like when a mail on the list has only one "thread" that goes around
23:59:24 <Keelhaul> and about your partner
23:59:30 <Keelhaul> how well do you know him
23:59:54 <Mkop> we've spent a few long nights in the computer lab together