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| 00:19:04 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7370]: uuids: for #1382: * never called setRequiredData with null parameters. ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7370> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7369]: reportingcompatibility: Changing location in svn. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7369> |
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| 00:21:47 | <r0bby> /jj/jj |
| 00:21:49 | <r0bby> er |
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| 00:22:08 | <r0bby> bwolfe: should i create the directory for aggregatedataentry tools? |
| 00:22:17 | <r0bby> or do i need to go through the proper channel etc |
| 00:22:40 | <r0bby> (having commit access already, i have the ability to do it, but not sure if it's _ALLOWED_ |
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| 00:25:03 | <Keelhaul> oh jeez r0bby |
| 00:25:31 | <Keelhaul> why are there 4 different posts about you getting accepted into gsoc on my facebook newsboard? |
| 00:26:30 | <bwolfe> r0bby: read the repository code of conduct again |
| 00:26:57 | <bwolfe> r0bby: or the developers page. I can't remember |
| 00:27:59 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: i heard nribeka talking about the hibernate issue being resolved earlier today, but he doesnt respond |
| 00:28:01 | <Keelhaul> is it true? |
| 00:29:15 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: see my comment on the ticket |
| 00:31:03 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: friendfeed gone awry |
| 00:31:19 | <r0bby> i cleaned it up |
| 00:31:28 | <r0bby> I cleaned it up |
| 00:31:35 | <r0bby> twitter picks up blog posts, friendfeed does |
| 00:31:41 | <r0bby> identica cross posts for me |
| 00:31:49 | <r0bby> you get the picture |
| 00:31:57 | <r0bby> I got yelled at saturday by some random tool :) |
| 00:33:50 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: sorry |
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| 00:39:43 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: i dont remember the tickets name |
| 00:39:53 | <Keelhaul> couldnt find it on recent changes feed |
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| 00:41:32 | <bwolfe> !ticket 725 |
| 00:41:32 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Ticket #725: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/725 |
| 00:42:57 | <r0bby> http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=477013 |
| 00:43:00 | <r0bby> !code of conduct |
| 00:43:00 | <OpenMRSBot> r0bby: Error: "code" is not a valid command. |
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| 00:47:25 | <r0bby> shrug |
| 00:47:39 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: does that fix both patient/user issues and the problem i had with type extensions with the same name? |
| 00:49:45 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: type extensions ? |
| 00:49:56 | <Keelhaul> Encounters extends org.openmrs.Encounter |
| 00:49:59 | <Keelhaul> -s |
| 00:51:20 | <bwolfe> not sure |
| 00:52:28 | <Keelhaul> heh |
| 00:52:42 | <Keelhaul> i thought thats the entire reason the first hibernate mod wasnt good enough |
| 00:52:44 | <bwolfe> I can't remember what the problem was really |
| 00:53:52 | <r0bby> I wish google would keep google pages there :( |
| 00:53:59 | <r0bby> i use it to link things such as images from my blog |
| 00:54:24 | <r0bby> bwolfe: fired an email off |
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| 00:54:30 | <r0bby> to code@ |
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| 01:15:47 | <r0bby> ugh IDEA is slow sometimes |
| 01:15:57 | <r0bby> im setting up the project for the project |
| 01:16:22 | <r0bby> redundency anyone |
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| 02:33:49 | <r0bby> upul: congrats :D |
| 02:34:12 | <upul> r0bby: congratulations to you too :-) |
| 02:34:35 | <upul> Seems you started working on the project already |
| 02:34:58 | <nribeka1> you better start coding r0bby |
| 02:35:01 | <nribeka1> lol |
| 02:35:24 | <upul> I think he must have done the first commit already |
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| 03:18:44 | <r0bby> upul: no id idnt |
| 03:18:50 | <r0bby> didn't* |
| 03:19:50 | <r0bby> nribeka: I have one month :P |
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| 03:21:59 | <upul> r0bby: I got your former mentor. |
| 03:24:01 | <r0bby> enjoy :) |
| 03:26:28 | <r0bby> jmiranda |
| 03:26:36 | <r0bby> Did you go to Open Everything NYC? |
| 03:26:40 | <r0bby> er Madison i mean |
| 03:27:44 | <jmiranda> r0bby: when was it? |
| 03:28:28 | <r0bby> Saturday |
| 03:28:37 | <r0bby> it was held concurrently to Open Everything NYC |
| 03:28:46 | <r0bby> (I was @ open everything NYC |
| 03:29:00 | <upul> and lost the hoodie |
| 03:29:00 | <r0bby> had an amazing time |
| 03:29:57 | <r0bby> jmiranda: though NYC was cooler :) |
| 03:29:59 | <r0bby> we had lh! |
| 03:36:21 | <upul> jmiranda: is diluka from india? |
| 03:36:56 | <upul> dilupa |
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| 03:40:18 | <r0bby> Mkop =) |
| 03:40:23 | <Mkop> hi |
| 03:43:24 | <jmiranda> upul: sorry was on the phone |
| 03:43:34 | <Mkop> hey, jmiranda |
| 03:43:39 | <Mkop> I'm in the middle of sending you an email |
| 03:43:46 | <jmiranda> upul: correction: on the phone |
| 03:43:51 | <jmiranda> Mkop: hey man! |
| 03:44:50 | <jmiranda> upul: he's from sri lanka |
| 03:45:14 | <Mkop> what time is it in Sri Lanka? |
| 03:45:39 | <upul> jmiranda: I thought so too, it's a lankan name |
| 03:45:48 | <r0bby> http://www.frontrowcrew.com/episodes/2009/04/20/open-everything-nyc-2009/ |
| 03:45:51 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3$0Y> (at www.frontrowcrew.com) |
| 03:45:52 | <upul> Mkop: 9:15AM |
| 03:46:25 | <Mkop> :15? really? |
| 03:46:28 | <Mkop> strange time zones |
| 03:46:48 | <Mkop> Canada used to/has one time zone like that |
| 03:46:56 | <upul> Mkop: we are gmt +5:30 |
| 03:47:25 | <upul> it used to change between 5 and 6, depending on the view of then governement |
| 03:47:33 | <upul> then it settled back to 5:30 |
| 03:47:44 | <Mkop> lol |
| 03:47:51 | <Mkop> compromise |
| 03:48:10 | <upul> 5:30 is the right one, but 6 is more round and easy to calculate |
| 03:50:20 | <jmiranda> upul: thanks for bringing that to my attention. |
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| 04:03:07 | <Mkop> jmiranda: just sent you an email |
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| 04:41:02 | <Mkop> just got my soc rejection email |
| 04:41:11 | <Mkop> took them 10 hours to send |
| 04:41:40 | <upul> I didn't get any, may be i will get it next week |
| 04:43:47 | <Mkop> upul: are you officially rejected from gsoc? |
| 04:44:32 | <r0bby> I can't decide if i wanna send this |
| 04:44:42 | <upul> Mkop: i was unofficially rejected when you sent that screen shot :-) |
| 04:50:36 | <Echidna> screen shot of what =o |
| 04:51:38 | <Mkop> Echidna: I sent a screen shot of who got accepted to openmrs gsoc when the app engine was down |
| 04:52:24 | <Echidna> yea i saw |
| 04:52:36 | <Echidna> http://sliceofmit.wordpress.com/2009/04/20/could-you-have-gotten-into-mit-in-1869/ |
| 04:52:38 | <Mkop> so then what's your question? |
| 04:52:38 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3$0r> (at sliceofmit.wordpress.com) |
| 04:53:29 | <Echidna> Mkop: it sounded like you took screenshots of upul saying something that got him rejected =P |
| 04:54:27 | <Mkop> oh |
| 04:54:33 | <Mkop> that link is really funny |
| 04:54:45 | <Echidna> well thats what i though |
| 04:54:55 | <Echidna> till i figured out i cant solve any of these anymore =( |
| 04:55:00 | <Echidna> at least w/o reading up |
| 04:55:03 | <Mkop> lol |
| 04:55:11 | <Echidna> havent had to do that kinda stuff since high school |
| 04:55:11 | <Mkop> the answer to the first one is 15 |
| 04:56:27 | <r0bby> that blog post is going to REALLY bite me |
| 04:56:28 | <r0bby> :( |
| 04:56:41 | <Mkop> r0bby: then tone it down |
| 04:56:56 | <Echidna> Mkop: you have the jew math skills =P |
| 04:57:10 | <Echidna> theres this really hard math class at forgot which university |
| 04:57:25 | <Echidna> and like 80% of the people that pass it are either jewish or azn |
| 04:57:27 | <Mkop> ummm, algebra 1? |
| 04:57:36 | <r0bby> How do you tone down "conspiracy nutjob" |
| 04:57:46 | <r0bby> "whackjob |
| 04:57:52 | <Mkop> that's what's necessary to pass that test |
| 04:57:54 | <r0bby> there isn't any other way to describe this guy :) |
| 04:58:05 | <Mkop> r0bby: mis-spell his name so it's not googleable |
| 04:58:19 | <r0bby> I dun care :) |
| 04:58:27 | <r0bby> the more people know bout this guy the better |
| 04:58:30 | <Mkop> you asked a quetion, I gave an answer |
| 04:58:34 | <r0bby> I know :) |
| 04:58:44 | <r0bby> This guy shouldn't be allowed to speak publically |
| 04:58:49 | <Echidna> what guy |
| 04:59:06 | <Mkop> chill |
| 05:00:45 | <Mkop> Echidna: look at his blog |
| 05:00:58 | <r0bby> http://robbyoconnor.blogspot.com |
| 05:02:21 | <Mkop> oh man. I have when people have lives and don't drop everything to respond to my emails |
| 05:02:52 | <Echidna> too much text =/ |
| 05:04:09 | <Mkop> what's too much text? |
| 05:04:38 | <Mkop> Echidna: in many universities, 80% of the school almost is jewish or asian |
| 05:05:39 | <r0bby> Echidna: it's a recap of a day that had A LOT going on |
| 05:07:03 | <Echidna> the entire blog lol |
| 05:07:09 | <Echidna> i dont like reading texts |
| 05:11:47 | <r0bby> Echidna: yes, that's what a blog is :P |
| 05:17:52 | <Mkop> and r0bby's blog isn't even particularly text-filled |
| 05:18:27 | <Mkop> Echidna: why do you have two names? |
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| 05:18:43 | <Mkop> why not Keelhaul|Kitchen or something like that? |
| 05:19:01 | <Echidna> Mkop: because i'm not in the kitchen |
| 05:19:07 | <Echidna> Echidna has no monitor or peripherals |
| 05:20:43 | <Mkop> then Keelhaul|NoArmsOrFace |
| 05:21:06 | <Echidna> this name has historical significance |
| 05:22:54 | <Mkop> then make Keelhaul be Echidna|WithArmsAndFace |
| 05:23:07 | <Echidna> no, keelhaul is my nick |
| 05:23:10 | <Mkop> much better than that horrifying screenname keelhaul |
| 05:23:12 | <Echidna> echidna is the computer |
| 05:23:17 | <Echidna> lol |
| 05:23:29 | <Mkop> it's horrifying, I tell you |
| 05:23:36 | <Echidna> at least i have a nick and dont use awkward abbreviations of my real name =P |
| 05:25:09 | <Mkop> At least I use a nick related to my real name and not some horrifying sailors' practice |
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| 05:25:44 | <Platypus1> is that better? |
| 05:25:49 | <Platypus1> a relative of an echidna |
| 05:26:08 | <Platypus1> I guess Platypus was taken, cause I typed /nick Platypus |
| 05:26:28 | <Echidna> at least echidnas arent poisonous |
| 05:26:43 | <Platypus1> but they do have REM sleep |
| 05:26:48 | <Platypus1> according to wikipedia |
| 05:27:01 | <Platypus1> you can tell that there was an edit war or something on that page |
| 05:28:22 | <r0bby> :P: |
| 05:28:29 | <r0bby> lol |
| 05:29:31 | <Echidna> http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/20634/391291-188175-knuckles_large.jpg |
| 05:29:38 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3$18> (at media.comicvine.com) |
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| 05:40:27 | <Mkop> the truth is, for most things, my screen name is my first initial and full last name, but for things when I want to be semi-anonymous I use Mkop |
| 05:41:30 | <Mkop> in #openmrs I have no need to be anonymous, but IRC is a big place |
| 05:44:03 | <Echidna> i dont like using my full name on the internet period unless it's absolutely required |
| 05:47:29 | <Echidna> slp tyme |
| 05:47:30 | <Echidna> gn |
| 05:47:39 | <Mkop> are we allowed to use your first name in here? |
| 05:47:57 | * Mkop is considering following xkcd's advice: http://xkcd.com/320/ |
| 05:49:20 | <upul> My real name is upul, but I use the nickname upul |
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| 05:50:04 | <Mkop> Echidna: you still have 235 hits on google |
| 05:50:34 | <Mkop> upul: I didn't realize that was your real name until today :-) |
| 05:50:39 | <r0bby> HAHAHA |
| 05:50:39 | <Mkop> ok, I'm getting kicked out of the library |
| 05:50:42 | <Mkop> good night all |
| 05:50:44 | <r0bby> <3 xkcd |
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| 06:03:02 | <upul> I got a thank you note from Google |
| 06:07:47 | <Mkop> upul: you just got it now? |
| 06:08:20 | <upul> Mkop: yes got it |
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| 06:17:56 | <pascal`> hi all |
| 06:18:57 | <ajitlodhi> hi.. |
| 06:19:26 | <ajitlodhi> Hey guys iam not selected in GSOC:( what are the future prospects for me....? |
| 06:20:38 | <ajitlodhi> Can i still work with OpenMRS...as a programmer. |
| 06:20:45 | <upul> ajitlodhi: you can write to your potential mentor ask what you did wrong |
| 06:20:46 | <pascal`> yes you can |
| 06:21:03 | <ajitlodhi> k |
| 06:21:10 | <ajitlodhi> how i can i join in..? |
| 06:21:25 | <upul> ajitlodhi: you can fix bugs and add patches |
| 06:21:45 | <pascal`> Learn how to become a developer at: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers |
| 06:22:00 | <Mkop> hi, pascal` |
| 06:22:07 | <pascal`> Hey Mkop |
| 06:22:21 | <ajitlodhi> upul: sure ... |
| 06:22:29 | <Mkop> that was just a response to your hi all, nothing more specific than that |
| 06:23:18 | <ajitlodhi> Who's my potential mentor....upul |
| 06:23:47 | <upul> ajitlodhi: I mean one you applied for, couldn't find the right word there :-) |
| 06:23:48 | <pascal`> ajitlodhi, your mentor is the person supervising the project you wanted to participate in |
| 06:23:48 | <ajitlodhi> i got reply from Burke Mamlin after 3 april |
| 06:24:16 | <pascal`> ajitlodhi, maybe you applied too late, like me =) |
| 06:24:30 | <ajitlodhi> no i applied early |
| 06:24:38 | <pascal`> =\ |
| 06:24:41 | <Mkop> ajitlodhi: look on the projects page, you'll see who the mentors are for the projects |
| 06:24:43 | <ajitlodhi> 2nd april.... |
| 06:24:48 | <ajitlodhi> k |
| 06:25:03 | <upul> last time I applied on the closing date |
| 06:25:15 | <upul> and it was extended by a week that day again :-) |
| 06:25:39 | <pascal`> well the projects probably weren't all full, like they are this year |
| 06:25:56 | <upul> yes this time lots of competition that last year |
| 06:37:45 | <upul> pascal`: south africa has lots of diamonds |
| 06:39:17 | <upul> South africans use big boulders of diamonds to even stop car wheels from rolling :-) |
| 06:50:21 | <Mkop> south africans steal tires to prevent car wheels from rolling |
| 06:51:23 | <upul> :-) Mkop you were south african |
| 06:51:39 | <Mkop> yep, I was born there |
| 06:51:46 | <Mkop> lived there for 4 years |
| 06:53:18 | <upul> there's country in the middle of the country |
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| 07:07:19 | <pascal`> upul: yes, aparently there are some diamonds |
| 07:08:05 | <pascal`> Mkop: are you of the opinion that crime in south africa is unbearably bad? |
| 07:08:26 | <Mkop> not necessarily |
| 07:08:31 | <Mkop> just that it's bad |
| 07:09:09 | <pascal`> yes, you do have to think about some things that you might not have to in other places |
| 07:09:17 | <pascal`> but i've never had anything bad happen |
| 07:09:39 | <pascal`> well |
| 07:09:54 | <pascal`> my car has be broken in to, but that about it |
| 07:09:57 | <Mkop> you also live in Cape Town, don't you? |
| 07:10:01 | <pascal`> certainly nothing violent |
| 07:10:06 | <pascal`> yeah, Cape Town |
| 07:10:16 | <Mkop> Cape Town is not quite the same as joburg |
| 07:10:30 | <Mkop> do you have a 10 foot wall around your house, with barbed wire on top? |
| 07:10:35 | <Mkop> most people in joburg do |
| 07:11:17 | <pascal`> well, i live in a flat (apartment) |
| 07:11:24 | <pascal`> no 10 foot wall, no barbed wire |
| 07:11:35 | <Mkop> my grandfather had a flat in capetown |
| 07:11:39 | <Mkop> in Muizenberg (sp?) |
| 07:13:29 | <pascal`> yeah |
| 07:14:46 | <Mkop> I don't know what kind of security they had there |
| 07:16:27 | <upul> I heard there are places in USA that nobody goes after 6 |
| 07:16:55 | <upul> some areas |
| 07:17:01 | <pascal`> i heard that the usa has 5% of the world population but almost 25% of the prison population |
| 07:17:26 | <pascal`> which mean there are more people incarcerated per capita than any other country, including south africa |
| 07:17:37 | <pascal`> (= |
| 07:17:49 | <upul> maybe because they have 80% of the lawyer population |
| 07:17:55 | <pascal`> lol |
| 07:17:57 | <upul> :-D |
| 07:20:47 | <Mkop> perhaps SA would be much better off if they had more people incarcerated |
| 07:21:04 | <Mkop> though I don't want to be hasty to say that, since I realize the politics are complex |
| 07:21:24 | <Mkop> it's true that certain areas in the US are not safe |
| 07:21:52 | <Mkop> right near my college campus, for example - the campus extends to 40th street, and I would not walk past 44th street or so at night |
| 07:21:59 | <pascal`> the real reason the us has so many people in prison, is because they have private prisons which profit from having people inside |
| 07:22:18 | <Mkop> pascal`: I don't believe that's the case - do you have a source for that? |
| 07:23:01 | <upul> in Melbourne there was a prision you can pay $30 or something and spend the day :-) |
| 07:25:28 | <upul> This prison would be nice http://www.trendhunter.com/trends/luxury-prison-a-sweet-prison-for-austrian-criminals/ |
| 07:25:38 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3$2u> (at www.trendhunter.com) |
| 07:34:31 | <pascal`> Mkop: I can't access Oxford Journals from here, but in the British Journal of Criminology, there are a few articles examining private prisons |
| 07:35:06 | <pascal`> I just don't see how a capitalist organisation (for profit) wouldn't work towards increasing profits... i.e. by expanding - getting more inmates |
| 07:37:16 | <Mkop> because the contractors who are running the prisons aren't the same people as the judges who are deciding who gets sent there |
| 07:37:46 | <pascal`> that is correct |
| 07:37:58 | <pascal`> but i think corporation can be more subtle and manipulative |
| 07:38:13 | <pascal`> for example, they definately have a say how long inmates stay inside |
| 07:38:34 | <pascal`> and they're less likely to let someone out on parol if they keep making money while the person is inside |
| 07:39:12 | <pascal`> it's either that, or there are more criminals per capita in the us than anywhere else in the world |
| 07:39:17 | <pascal`> which seems unlikely really |
| 07:43:49 | <Mkop> if the US has a different philosophy in how long criminals should be incarcerated, that doesn't necessarily mean the explanation is the corporate profiteering you're talking about |
| 07:43:58 | <Mkop> there are many other possible explanations |
| 07:44:49 | <pascal`> of course |
| 07:47:03 | <Mkop> and I don't know if the third-party contractors necessarily have a say in how long they stay |
| 07:47:39 | <Mkop> I imagine safeguards are put in place such as having govt people included in the prison management that can have a say in parole etc. |
| 07:47:47 | <pascal`> well, i mean, it's their employees who supervise the prisoner, and hence are consulted to determine how rehabilitated they are |
| 07:48:58 | <pascal`> i find it hard to believe that a corporation would have the best interests of the prisoners/govt in mind |
| 07:49:15 | <pascal`> maybe i'm cynical and distrusting of capitalists (= |
| 07:57:35 | <pascal`> Mkop: http://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/ |
| 07:58:36 | <pascal`> some interesting graphs there... it's almost impossible to infer any kind of causal relationship. Still, raises some questions |
| 08:02:35 | <Mkop> pascal`: those people are also a group fighting incarceration |
| 08:03:02 | <pascal`> so you think the statistics could be false? |
| 08:03:23 | <pascal`> well in any case, i'm not for or against incarceration |
| 08:03:49 | <pascal`> i'm just saying there are definately unanswered questions regarding the high prison population in the us |
| 08:04:06 | <Mkop> I think statistics are as eassy to bias as any other data, and just to pay attention to the fact that this is a group with a stated bias |
| 08:04:25 | <pascal`> yup |
| 08:05:58 | <Mkop> I don't know what it's like in SA, but in certain low-income communities in the US, it's almost a given that anyone will spend time in jail, just like it's a given in other communities that everyone will go to college |
| 08:07:17 | <pascal`> well, i think that's everywhere |
| 08:07:56 | <pascal`> but still, the actually population is disproportional to those population of /those/ communities |
| 08:08:09 | <pascal`> you do acknowledge that as a fact, no? |
| 08:08:16 | <Mkop> I'm not sure what you mean? |
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| 08:08:36 | <pascal`> that the us has a rediculously high prison population per capita |
| 08:08:59 | <Mkop> I haven't seen the numbers, but I'm not arguing that point |
| 08:09:05 | <Mkop> you're probably right |
| 08:09:08 | <Mkop> on that |
| 08:13:20 | <pascal`> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisons_in_the_United_States |
| 08:13:21 | <pascal`> nice graph there |
| 08:13:22 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3$38> (at en.wikipedia.org) |
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| 08:48:14 | <Mkop1> I just installed HydraIRC |
| 08:48:17 | <Mkop1> and it seems stupid |
| 08:48:43 | <pascal`> even with the extra fish? |
| 08:48:52 | <Mkop1> doesn't have colors for the rooms in which someone said something |
| 08:49:03 | <Mkop1> does have some cool features |
| 08:49:16 | <Mkop1> in the status bar, it shows what someone said in any room |
| 08:49:35 | <pascal`> ok |
| 08:50:14 | <upul> best one I found was konversation in kde, but it works only in linux |
| 08:50:37 | <pascal`> I use BitchX on linux |
| 08:50:47 | <pascal`> mibbit on windows |
| 08:51:04 | <Mkop1> I'm looking for a windows one |
| 08:51:11 | <Mkop1> and mibbit is annoying |
| 08:51:20 | <Mkop1> though it is good |
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| 08:57:03 | <upul> xchat for windows, openmrs has a page of clients |
| 08:58:06 | <Mkop> xchat costs money |
| 08:58:16 | <upul> no there is a free one |
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| 08:59:01 | <upul> http://www.silverex.info/ from http://openmrs.org/wiki/IRC |
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| 09:01:35 | <upul> Mkop: what were you using till now? |
| 09:02:22 | <Mkop> Pidgin |
| 09:02:37 | <upul> http://www.silverex.info/ is okay |
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| 09:05:21 | <Mkop> I've used x-chat before in linux |
| 09:05:41 | <Mkop> I like that it minimizes to the systray |
| 09:08:06 | <Mkop> though I'm confused about it having 2 systray icons |
| 09:08:33 | <upul> it doesn't goto systray in windows i think |
| 09:09:01 | <Mkop> yes it does |
| 09:09:30 | <upul> also there's chatzilla, in mozilla suite, seamonkey |
| 09:10:16 | <Mkop> I've used chatzilla |
| 09:11:03 | <Mkop> I rejected it before because I was using IE then and it was annoying and slow to open firefox just for IRC |
| 09:11:21 | <Mkop> I'm religious about my IRC client without even having one I really like |
| 09:11:31 | <upul> I never use IE :-) |
| 09:11:33 | <Mkop> like the guy who can't figure out which church to go to |
| 09:11:43 | <Mkop> I don't either, but did until recently |
| 09:12:13 | <Mkop> now, the only time I use it is when some website's not working and I want to try it in an environment without any cookies |
| 09:26:12 | <Mkop1> well, I think the winner is XChat for windows |
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| 09:38:19 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: OpenMRS Runtime Properties file not recognized in Linux <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=425#p1524> |
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| 10:11:35 | <Mkop> FWIW, demo.openmrs is giving a 500 error right now |
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| 10:21:03 | <upul> demo wasn't working yesterday too |
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| 12:01:44 | <pascal`> hi jmiranda |
| 12:01:57 | <jmiranda> hey pascal` |
| 12:02:33 | <pascal`> thanks for logging that ticket and the advice and the effort of created the template report |
| 12:02:36 | <pascal`> i appreciate it |
| 12:02:43 | <pascal`> *creating |
| 12:02:55 | <jmiranda> no problem at all |
| 12:03:05 | <pascal`> ended up being a pretty obvious solution if i just looked at crosstabs (= |
| 12:03:29 | <jmiranda> are you using crosstabs now? |
| 12:03:46 | <pascal`> well i haven't really sat down and customized the report |
| 12:04:01 | <pascal`> but it seems like the solution is exactly what you provided me with |
| 12:04:06 | <jmiranda> awesome |
| 12:04:36 | <pascal`> we'll find out in a few months when i do the production implementation if everything works like it should |
| 12:04:49 | <pascal`> but there really isn't another way |
| 12:05:08 | <jmiranda> there is, but as you found out, it's tedious |
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| 12:25:43 | <pascal`> maybe, but it isn't dynamic |
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| 12:54:59 | <upul> Ni hao ma Ben |
| 12:55:31 | <bwolfe> hello upul |
| 12:55:45 | <bwolfe> chinese? |
| 12:55:51 | <upul> bwolfe, you should say Hen hao |
| 12:55:58 | <upul> :-) |
| 12:56:37 | <bwolfe> I have a strict policy of _not_ saying anything in a foreign language when someone says to me: "You should say X". :-p |
| 12:56:59 | <upul> it meant how are you? and answer is I'm good |
| 12:57:12 | <upul> very good |
| 12:57:39 | <upul> not to worry. in the next few months you will speak like a Mr. Hu |
| 12:58:03 | <bwolfe> haha |
| 12:58:30 | <bwolfe> probably not. the student learns the mentors language...and if needed, the mentor brings in his chinese friend to translate. :-) |
| 12:59:56 | <upul> if you say 'ma' in different tones it could mean, horse, mother, to scold or hemp, question, I think |
| 13:00:32 | <upul> Looks like demo.openmrs.org is down, Mkop said too |
| 13:01:44 | <bwolfe> its up again |
| 13:02:16 | <upul> yes |
| 13:02:42 | <bwolfe> with demo you can usually wait 10 mins and it will come back again |
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| 13:03:05 | <bwolfe> demo updates to the latest war and resets its database every night |
| 13:03:17 | <bwolfe> there is also a watchdog script that checks to see if its up every 5 mins |
| 13:03:39 | <bwolfe> if its down for two 5 min periods, the script restarts tomcat. |
| 13:04:12 | <upul> but every time I checked it was down yesterday and today about 3 times, must be bad timing |
| 13:04:49 | <bwolfe> it emails me every time it restarts. I had 5 emails from it last night. not sure what was going on |
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| 13:18:30 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7371]: Added "@since 1.5" annotations to all methods new compared to the 1.4.x ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7371> |
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| 14:00:01 | <upul> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHxgrlN0drM |
| 14:10:52 | <upul> yesterday's operation http://defencewire.blogspot.com/ |
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| 14:50:09 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: http://rafb.net/p/K4schI99.html |
| 14:50:18 | <Keelhaul> you forgot to change the mapping for ConceptFormValidator back |
| 14:51:08 | <bwolfe> no I didn't |
| 14:51:09 | <bwolfe> http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs/trunk/web/WEB-INF/openmrs-servlet.xml#L629 |
| 14:51:11 | <bwolfe> :-) |
| 14:51:11 | <Keelhaul> or maybe i did? |
| 14:51:13 | <Keelhaul> hm |
| 14:51:17 | <Keelhaul> maybe mine was out of sync |
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| 14:56:53 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: do you know what the latest fix to hibernate involved? |
| 14:57:05 | <Keelhaul> i know the last one i tried you didnt like |
| 14:57:10 | <Keelhaul> but it worked for me |
| 14:57:14 | <Keelhaul> cept all the excessive logging |
| 14:57:24 | <Keelhaul> now everything seems to work |
| 14:57:28 | <Keelhaul> at least i can open the dashboard again |
| 14:57:48 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: did you not read the ticket/changeset comments? :-) |
| 14:58:01 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: only the last one |
| 14:58:06 | <Keelhaul> !ticket 725 |
| 14:58:06 | <OpenMRSBot> Keelhaul: Ticket #725: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/725 |
| 14:58:10 | <bwolfe> I didn't modify the jar again. it has nribeka's initial changes |
| 14:58:17 | <bwolfe> the changes were inside of openmrs |
| 14:58:31 | <Keelhaul> yea i read that |
| 14:58:36 | <Keelhaul> oic |
| 14:58:36 | <bwolfe> I just made the concept.names property _not_ lazy |
| 14:58:48 | <Keelhaul> hm |
| 14:58:57 | <bwolfe> because the problems were coming up when hibernate was trying to refetch lazy init properties |
| 14:58:59 | <Keelhaul> but why would that affect my Encounter object type |
| 14:59:26 | <bwolfe> not sure. |
| 14:59:31 | <bwolfe> because you were loading concepts ? |
| 14:59:36 | <Keelhaul> not that i know of |
| 14:59:58 | <Keelhaul> or maybe the dashboard was, which is probable |
| 15:00:05 | <Keelhaul> i dont quite remember what else didnt work |
| 15:00:11 | <Keelhaul> i think encounter.form did work |
| 15:00:25 | <Keelhaul> but the dashboard worked normally when my inpatientcare module wasnt loaded |
| 15:00:36 | <Keelhaul> so i figured the problem is the extension of Encounter |
| 15:00:44 | <Keelhaul> it doesnt really do anything else data model wise |
| 15:03:44 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: do you know when PatientSet was removed? |
| 15:05:47 | <nribeka> sorry i will be out of irc today |
| 15:05:51 | <nribeka> final exam week |
| 15:05:53 | <nribeka> :D |
| 15:05:57 | <Keelhaul> gl |
| 15:06:19 | <nribeka> thanks Keelhaul |
| 15:06:30 | <bwolfe> the dashboard was broken for anyone that had was loading concepts twice: the first by doing getConcept and the second by doing getConceptNumeric. |
| 15:06:31 | <Keelhaul> do people wish good luck for exams in english? |
| 15:06:46 | <Keelhaul> here, you're supposed to wish someone success rather than luck if they're getting tested |
| 15:07:00 | <bwolfe> nribeka: yep, good luck. look forward to having you back full time afterwards! ;-) |
| 15:07:13 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: eh, its all the same |
| 15:07:16 | <nribeka> thanks bwolfe ;) |
| 15:07:22 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: apparently not heh |
| 15:07:24 | <bwolfe> if you say "good success", they will look at you funny |
| 15:07:27 | <nribeka> looking forward to it too |
| 15:07:27 | <Keelhaul> yea |
| 15:07:50 | <Keelhaul> but here wishing good luck means their success will be based on luck rather than competence |
| 15:07:56 | <bwolfe> makes sense |
| 15:08:28 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: so your module might have been loading some concepts |
| 15:08:45 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: not that one, not that i know of |
| 15:08:58 | <Keelhaul> another module does load concepts, but the dashboard worked fine with it loaded |
| 15:09:27 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: btw, right now two of my modules require a third to run |
| 15:09:42 | <Keelhaul> because the third provides some libs and extensions |
| 15:09:48 | <Keelhaul> i'm not sure this is a good thing to do |
| 15:11:32 | <bwolfe> sure, that works |
| 15:11:36 | <Keelhaul> for example one module adds a "patient panel", another one adds links to it |
| 15:11:37 | <bwolfe> its like a "parent" modulle |
| 15:12:36 | <Keelhaul> now i'm thinking the panel could be within the rolebasednav module |
| 15:12:42 | <Keelhaul> makes more sense to me |
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| 15:29:15 | <luzhuangwei> Hi,Ben and everyone, |
| 15:29:16 | <luzhuangwei> I am very excited that my proposal has been accepted by you and other mentors. |
| 15:29:32 | <luzhuangwei> Thank you for giving me this previous chance to contribute my effort. |
| 15:29:54 | <bwolfe> we're happy to have you luzhuangwei :-) |
| 15:30:27 | <luzhuangwei> Now,I think i should begin to do more work for project "Serialization Service". |
| 15:30:31 | <bwolfe> I'm looking forward to seeing your results! |
| 15:30:32 | <luzhuangwei> Can you give me a few suggestion about preparing for project,Now i just learned the basic api of XStream and some principles of Simple Framework.But which domain objects need to serialize,I haven't know clearly.I think this point is very important,is it?and are there other good documents and suggestion?:-) |
| 15:31:05 | <luzhuangwei> hah:-),thank you |
| 15:31:44 | <luzhuangwei> I also looking forward to the result,Last night,I am very nervous |
| 15:31:56 | <nribeka> congrats luzhuangwei |
| 15:32:07 | <bwolfe> luzhuangwei: well, there are a few setup things first, before we get into project specifics |
| 15:32:12 | <luzhuangwei> thank you,<nribeka>:-) |
| 15:32:35 | <bwolfe> see http://openmrs.org/wiki/Summer_Of_Code_2009#Next_Steps |
| 15:32:38 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3$9A> (at openmrs.org) |
| 15:32:45 | <bwolfe> I think you're on #6 luzhuangwei :-) |
| 15:32:45 | <luzhuangwei> yeah,I just seen this url |
| 15:32:50 | <nribeka> openmrs students are so diversified this time |
| 15:33:24 | <luzhuangwei> yep |
| 15:33:30 | <luzhuangwei> do I need do every thing described in "Next Steps" |
| 15:33:32 | <luzhuangwei> ? |
| 15:33:39 | <bwolfe> nribeka: they've been pretty diversified |
| 15:33:40 | <omar> Hi everybody, I aslo was selected to participate, thank you very much |
| 15:33:43 | <omar> also |
| 15:34:08 | <bwolfe> hey omar. congrats. :-) |
| 15:34:40 | <luzhuangwei> ok,Ben, you mean registing my blog |
| 15:34:40 | <bwolfe> luzhuangwei: yep, all of them. some you have done already because you have done tickets |
| 15:34:57 | <omar> mmm, congrats luhuangwei, I think i know hows it feel |
| 15:35:02 | <omar> thanx bwolfe |
| 15:35:04 | <nribeka> congrats omar |
| 15:35:21 | <nribeka> that's a good thing bwolfe |
| 15:35:35 | <nribeka> now if i want to go to China i can contact luzhuangwei |
| 15:35:37 | <nribeka> haha lol |
| 15:36:30 | <luzhuangwei> ok,I think i will create one for free at WordPress.com or Blogger.com first:-),because I haven't one yet |
| 15:36:34 | <bwolfe> luzhuangwei: yeah, set up your blog and then your user page on the wiki. then we can talk about your project specifics so you can write a more final proposal (you can use the one from your app as a starter). you and I will then go through your final proposal to make sure everything seems doable |
| 15:36:34 | <luzhuangwei> Ok,welcome! |
| 15:36:52 | <bwolfe> luzhuangwei: where in china are you ? |
| 15:39:11 | <luzhuangwei> ok,Ben,I have mark these steps you suggested |
| 15:39:23 | <luzhuangwei> I am in BeiJing |
| 15:39:42 | <luzhuangwei> the capital of China |
| 15:39:45 | <luzhuangwei> :-) |
| 15:40:32 | <luzhuangwei> congrats omar:-) |
| 15:40:33 | <upul> luzhuangwei, Ni hao |
| 15:40:33 | <bwolfe> oh, yes, very nice. (I remember you telling me that now) |
| 15:40:49 | <luzhuangwei> hah,Ni hao,upul:-) |
| 15:41:18 | <luzhuangwei> cool,i think your chinese language is well:-) |
| 15:41:55 | <upul> luzhuangwei, be careful, last time for every missing semicolon bwolfe made me do 50 pushups |
| 15:42:25 | <omar> thx everybody |
| 15:42:27 | <bwolfe> yes, upul was very strong at the end of gsoc2008 :-D |
| 15:43:55 | <luzhuangwei> oh,50 pushups,i think it exactly a tiring thing if for me,heh |
| 15:44:48 | <upul> :-D bwolfe should I make a new blog or keep the old one, it's name is upulgsoc |
| 15:44:49 | <luzhuangwei> i agree with you,Ben,upul was a strong man |
| 15:46:01 | <bwolfe> upul: old one is fine. just remember to add an "openmrs" tag to the post to get it picked up by feed.openmrs.org |
| 15:46:14 | <upul> ok |
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| 15:56:43 | <omar> then, every weekly entry must have the tag openmrs? |
| 16:00:13 | <upul> omar, ones with the openmrs tag gets added to the openmrs site blog |
| 16:00:37 | <upul> so if you have anything which is not relevent to openmrs you can publish without the tag |
| 16:00:57 | <bwolfe> omar: one you set up your blog, we add it to the ones that feed.openmrs.org checks. if feed sees the openmrs tag, it pulls that into the feed app so everyone can see it in one place |
| 16:01:04 | <omar> data harvesting of this entries itÅ made in OpenMrs site right? |
| 16:01:19 | <bwolfe> omar: we would love posts more often than weekly, but weekly is the minimum :-) |
| 16:01:22 | <omar> OK, right,thank |
| 16:01:31 | <bwolfe> omar: see http://fee.openmrs.org |
| 16:01:35 | <bwolfe> err |
| 16:01:38 | <bwolfe> http://feed.openmrs.org |
| 16:01:51 | <bwolfe> and all other blogs: http://feed.openmrs.org/tag/blog |
| 16:02:47 | <omar> ok, thx, and dont worry, I want to update the blog at least twice / week |
| 16:03:04 | <upul> bwolfe, remember the bollinis, it's not even there now :-D |
| 16:03:53 | <omar> between us, there's going to be my first blog ever ( I'd prefer to read other's blogs) |
| 16:06:25 | <bwolfe> omar: yes, the required blog was the first for most devs last year :-) |
| 16:06:36 | <bwolfe> omar: I will be very impressed if you keep up 2/week ! |
| 16:07:39 | <omar> bwolfe? why? Maybe Im too optimistic about my entry average, but let me try, lol. |
| 16:30:49 | <luzhuangwei> Ben,I have set up my blog,and how i can add it into feed.openmrs.org? |
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| 16:34:02 | <bwolfe> luzhuangwei: whats your blog address ? |
| 16:34:42 | <luzhuangwei> lzwgsoc |
| 16:34:48 | <luzhuangwei> it's my blog's name |
| 16:35:23 | <luzhuangwei> and also the address is http://lzwgsoc.blogspot.com/ |
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| 16:56:57 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7374]: chica:Link to 1.2.18 of sockethl7Listener.jar. Change version number. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7374> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1422 (enhancement created): Search for potentially duplicate Concepts before adding a new one <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1422> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7373]: uuids: for #1382 * changed ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7373> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7372]: --sockethl7listener * Modify handling of voided providers using ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7372> || Upul Godage: I am in OpenMRS Internship Program OIP <http://upulgsoc.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/i-am-in-openmrs-internship-program-oip/> |
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| 17:04:34 | <luzhuangwei> ok,Ben,I have also created my profile in wiki. |
| 17:04:59 | <luzhuangwei> I will off-line,cya:-) |
| 17:05:15 | <bwolfe> ok, just added your blog to feed. should show up within 30 mins or so |
| 17:05:24 | <bwolfe> cya luzhuangwei |
| 17:05:41 | <luzhuangwei> thx,bye |
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| 18:01:01 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Lu Zhuang Wei: GSoC 2009 <http://lzwgsoc.blogspot.com/2009/04/gsoc-2009.html> |
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| 20:56:50 | <bwolfe> jacobb: where did you get the WebServiceContext from to authenticate in your WebServiceSupport file ? |
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| 21:43:01 | <omar> Hi, hey bwolfe , can you register my blog for the feed please? |
| 21:43:14 | <bwolfe> whats your url ? |
| 21:43:21 | <omar> http://omargsoc.wordpress.com/ |
| 21:46:29 | <bwolfe> omar: done. give it 30 mins to get aggregated. :-) |
| 21:46:39 | <omar> thank you very much |
| 21:47:02 | <r0bby> my blog post calling one of the keynote speakers a conspiracy nutjob got aggregated :x |
| 21:48:03 | <bwolfe> not into feed.openmrs |
| 21:51:36 | <r0bby> oh right it filters |
| 21:51:41 | <r0bby> thank god. |
| 21:51:58 | <r0bby> It was harsh, I didn't take too kindly to that douchebag |
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| 21:52:15 | <r0bby> If it wasn't for him being such a rude man, he woulda been a damn cool guy |
| 21:52:18 | <r0bby> (former spy!) |
| 21:52:28 | <Mkop> Echidna, you here? |
| 21:55:41 | <Mkop> from another chat room: ender` has quit (" Documentation is like sex: when it's good, it's very good, and when it's bad it's still better than nothing.") |
| 21:56:31 | <r0bby> Mkop: HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA |
| 21:56:32 | <r0bby> so true |
| 21:57:08 | <r0bby> omar: use the 2009 logo |
| 21:57:29 | <r0bby> I have it linked here: http://robby.oconnor.googlepages.com/2009socwithlogo.gif |
| 21:57:31 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/3$Ci> (at robby.oconnor.googlepages.com) |
| 21:57:34 | <Mkop> I was somewhat upset when my brother who codes for a living told me he doesn't document for job security |
| 21:57:49 | <r0bby> that's actually good :) |
| 21:57:53 | <Mkop> and also because he doesn't have time to document with the push to ship the product |
| 21:58:00 | <r0bby> though, he fails to consider that they could very well scrap his code :) |
| 21:58:15 | <r0bby> Mkop: Documenting takes time :P |
| 21:59:12 | <Mkop> he did put forth a pretty strong argument - documenting takes time, maintaining documentation takes time, out-of-date documentation doesn't help anything (or sometimes hurts), and this is a product whose code is not likely to be reused for other things |
| 21:59:23 | <Mkop> if it were an API or something, things would be different |
| 21:59:35 | <omar> thanks robby.....but, I think that I like more the globe logo |
| 21:59:37 | <omar> :S |
| 21:59:47 | <omar> I hope I dont need to pay rights |
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| 22:01:44 | <bwolfe> yeah, I don't like this years gsoc logo either |
| 22:02:09 | <bwolfe> Mkop: I've found even when going back over my own code I don't remember any of it more than 60 days since |
| 22:02:40 | <bwolfe> Mkop: I've reviewed my own code before and thought. "nice! thats just how I would have done it!".... (and also once though "this is crap!") |
| 22:03:41 | <Mkop> and then there's also the "wtf is he trying to do here?" "oh yeah, i wrote that, didn't I?...." |
| 22:07:56 | <r0bby> Ok i need to study |
| 22:08:01 | <r0bby> so that i dont flunk out |
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| 22:11:34 | <nribeka> kyahoooo ... |
| 22:11:42 | <nribeka> bwolfe, where's my tickets? |
| 22:11:43 | <nribeka> :D |
| 22:12:00 | <bwolfe> I thought you had exams this week? |
| 22:12:07 | <r0bby> STUDY! |
| 22:13:13 | * Mkop issues nribeka a ticket for not studying |
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| 22:13:20 | <Mkop> or is that not the kind of ticket you were looking for? |
| 22:13:54 | <nribeka> just prepare it then :D |
| 22:13:59 | <nribeka> thank you bwolfe |
| 22:13:59 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Omar Verduga: Hello GSoC2009 <http://omargsoc.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/hellogsocworld/> |
| 22:14:10 | <nribeka> lol Mkop |
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| 22:16:42 | <Mkop> hi, Keelhaul |
| 22:16:45 | <Keelhaul> hi |
| 22:16:46 | <Mkop> random question: |
| 22:16:55 | <Mkop> do you have Peter rabbit in germany? |
| 22:17:00 | <Mkop> i.e. the kids books? |
| 22:17:04 | <Keelhaul> heh |
| 22:17:05 | <Keelhaul> not sure |
| 22:17:11 | <Keelhaul> i didnt live here until i was 11 |
| 22:17:16 | <Mkop> ok, fair enough |
| 22:17:33 | <Mkop> did you have them in russia? (or wherever it is you're from) |
| 22:18:47 | <Mkop> if you don't remember that's fine too |
| 22:19:01 | <Mkop> it's just quasi-relevant to a discussion I was having with someone else |
| 22:19:08 | <Keelhaul> i dont think there was anything called peter rabbit |
| 22:19:15 | <Keelhaul> and i cant find anything on german wiki either |
| 22:20:45 | <r0bby> /jj |
| 22:20:46 | <r0bby> er |
| 22:21:22 | * Mkop installed Xchat for windows last night and is very happy with it |
| 22:21:57 | <nribeka> use pidgin |
| 22:23:24 | <r0bby> pidgin is crap for irc. \ |
| 22:23:30 | <Mkop> I switched from pidgin |
| 22:23:32 | <r0bby> Pidgin is _NOT_ an irc client |
| 22:23:55 | * r0bby sighs |
| 22:24:18 | <Mkop> Pidgin is an IM client which is good for light IRC use |
| 22:25:14 | <Mkop> but isn't so good at handling things like sitting in multiple IRC rooms, or minimizing to the taskbar |
| 22:26:13 | <r0bby> i use irssi+screen |
| 22:26:25 | <r0bby> Who wants to implant discrete into my brain |
| 22:26:51 | <Mkop> I downloaded irssi last night |
| 22:26:57 | <Mkop> and promptly deleted it |
| 22:27:09 | <Mkop> b/c it's not pretty, and doesn't have the nice features I wanted |
| 22:28:10 | <nribeka> haha ... |
| 22:29:12 | <Mkop> oh yeah, and it uses cygwin, which has been banned from my computer forever |
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| 22:35:36 | <r0bby> Mkop: irssi is themable |
| 22:35:48 | <r0bby> 18:32 this.join = new Join("greendots", n=dano@74-32-35-237.dr03.mdtw.ny.frontiernet.net, #openmrs); |
| 22:35:54 | <r0bby> that's what it looks like when somebody joins |
| 22:35:57 | * r0bby foo |
| 22:36:01 | <r0bby> 18:35 /** |
| 22:36:01 | <r0bby> 18:35 * r0bby foo |
| 22:36:01 | <r0bby> 18:35 */ |
| 22:36:04 | <r0bby> actions |
| 22:36:15 | <r0bby> this.part, this.quit |
| 22:36:17 | <r0bby> this.kick etc |
| 22:36:18 | <r0bby> :) |
| 22:36:33 | <Mkop> is it un-cygwinable? |
| 22:36:41 | <Mkop> that's make or break |
| 22:37:30 | <Mkop> actually, the truth is, it doesn't matter |
| 22:37:31 | <Mkop> it's ugly |
| 22:46:30 | <greendots> ! |
| 22:48:40 | <r0bby> Mkop: i use it on my linux box :) |
| 22:48:43 | <r0bby> so i wouldnt know :) |
| 22:49:00 | <Mkop> if I were on a linux box, things might be different |
| 22:49:32 | <r0bby> well you can be :) |
| 22:49:40 | <r0bby> Mkop: get screen. |
| 22:49:57 | <r0bby> then use openssh for cygwin and ssh in :) |
| 22:50:02 | <Mkop> if I get a new box |
| 22:50:49 | <greendots> window < mac < linux :) |
| 22:50:55 | <greendots> windows* |
| 22:51:31 | <Mkop> it's very possible my next box will be linux |
| 22:51:39 | <Keelhaul> as long as it's not a mac |
| 22:51:58 | <Mkop> but linux does have its limitations |
| 22:52:28 | <greendots> mac isnt bad but its become more of a fashion statement then an os |
| 22:53:18 | <Mkop> I feel like with windows, it's very unlikely anything will get in the way of basic functionality. You don't have the more advanced stuff, but at least your wireless card works, you can connect to non-standard networks, etc. etc. |
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| 22:54:52 | <greendots> i think wireless is the only thing that linux has a problem with anymore. But its the fault of manufacturers |
| 22:56:02 | <Mkop> to the end user, it doesn't matter whose fault it is |
| 22:56:28 | <r0bby> greendots: the only reason I have windows on this laptop is all peripherals aren't supported |
| 22:56:38 | <greendots> yea but I mean that linux tries its best :) |
| 22:58:40 | <Agnor> hi |
| 22:58:44 | <greendots> Hi |
| 23:00:17 | <Agnor> bwolfe, when you can, please add my blog to the blog feed |
| 23:00:33 | <Agnor> http://agnor.wordpress.com/ |
| 23:01:04 | <greendots> I also think linux has the best functioning/looking UI with gnome and compiz... when ever I am on windows its so much slower |
| 23:01:43 | <greendots> though i never tried vista's of windows 7 |
| 23:01:46 | * r0bby thwaps greendots with his discrete text |
| 23:01:51 | <r0bby> study! |
| 23:02:04 | <r0bby> you'll be stuck at occc for another year if you dont! |
| 23:02:06 | <greendots> i am on wikipedia... no textbook :) |
| 23:02:17 | <r0bby> BAD DANO! |
| 23:02:19 | <r0bby> no donut! |
| 23:10:00 | <greendots> as as last statement: using linux is like quiting smoking, if you can make it past the first couple days you'll never want to go back |
| 23:14:58 | <nribeka> the only reason i use windows is the school projects need to use .net |
| 23:16:58 | <r0bby> dano you need windows :) |
| 23:17:13 | <r0bby> dr. wang insists on using masm, but that's the textbook's fault. |
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| 23:49:48 | <Mkop> hmmm |
| 23:50:23 | <Mkop> in ObsService.java, the first parameter for getNumericAnswersForConcept is Concept answers. In ObsServiceImpl.java, it's Concept question |
| 23:53:44 | <Keelhaul> =o |
