IRC Chat : 2009-04-20 - OpenMRS

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00:07:29 <r0bby> bwolfe: =)
00:07:34 <r0bby> you missed a GREAT time.
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00:33:27 <Keelhaul> does Context.getService() cost anything?
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00:48:46 <Keelhaul> and r0bby is kidding, no one has talked in here in over 24h =/
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01:12:58 <r0bby> Keelhaul: I was talking about Open Everything
01:13:11 <Keelhaul> orly
01:13:16 * Keelhaul opens r0bby's wallet
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01:20:31 * Mkop is getting excited/nervous about the announcement tomorrow.....
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01:23:52 <sdefabbiakane> Mkop: seriously
01:24:06 * Mkop 's internet is apparently also excited, and it's jumping up and down in joy
01:24:12 <Mkop> or in trepedation
01:24:16 <Mkop> trepidation*
01:24:29 <sdefabbiakane> heh
01:24:36 <Mkop> sam: you should know, if it weren't for you, I probably wouldn't be so nervous
01:24:46 <sdefabbiakane> same with you :P
01:24:54 <Mkop> :-)
01:25:17 <Keelhaul> lol
01:25:28 <Keelhaul> same project?
01:25:32 <sdefabbiakane> yes
01:26:01 <sdefabbiakane> active lists
01:26:55 <Keelhaul> heh
01:26:58 <Mkop> I applied for two projects, but I'm not getting the second one
01:27:07 <Mkop> had a quasi-interview over skype
01:27:10 <Mkop> did _not_ do well
01:27:12 <Keelhaul> with whom
01:27:19 <Mkop> Daniel Kayiwa
01:27:25 <Keelhaul> o
01:27:27 <Keelhaul> never talked to him
01:27:30 <Keelhaul> what project is that
01:27:35 <Mkop> frontlinesms
01:28:03 <Mkop> bwolfe or jmiranda: have mentors already submitted their selections? i.e. is it too late to contact a mentor with more info?
01:29:49 <Mkop> ooh, it looks like that was decided 5 days ago
01:29:58 <Keelhaul> hmm
01:30:06 <Keelhaul> frontlinesms sound interesting
01:30:09 <Keelhaul> too bad i hate SMS lol
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01:47:46 <r0bby> oh my god i look HORRIBLE
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01:55:51 <bwolfe> hey r0bby
01:56:29 <bwolfe> so its been dead in here all weekend, eh? r0bby leaves and so no one talks? :-p
01:57:54 <Keelhaul> =)
01:58:14 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: does anyone use the rolebasednavigation module
01:58:23 <Keelhaul> it seems incomplete
01:58:29 <Keelhaul> and very out of date api wise
01:58:42 <bwolfe> I think PIH uses it
01:58:46 <bwolfe> but they use 1.4
01:58:54 <Keelhaul> it still uses PatientSet
01:59:00 <Keelhaul> when was that taken out?
02:00:25 <Mkop> bwolfe: that removing deprecated stuff from api ticket isn't urgent, is it? I'm slowly progressing on it but am swamped with school
02:01:21 <bwolfe> no, not really urgent I think
02:02:46 <Mkop> ok
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02:17:00 <r0bby> bwolfe: /joe
02:17:02 <r0bby> er
02:17:16 <Mkop> ?
02:23:18 <bwolfe> joe ?
02:23:27 <bwolfe> did you just call me joe ?
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02:24:39 <Keelhaul> lol
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02:26:04 <Mkop> I actually know a guy named joe wolfe
02:26:54 <r0bby> er n o
02:26:57 <bwolfe> interesting
02:27:05 <r0bby> i lose /joe to join the openeverything chan
02:27:20 <r0bby> i'm trying to track down lh's friend anthony
02:27:25 <r0bby> he has my hoodie :(
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02:29:22 <r0bby> it's in his trunk :|
02:33:30 <upul> r0bby: did you open everything?
02:33:36 <Mkop> lol
02:33:38 <upul> including the trunk
02:33:38 <Keelhaul> lol
02:33:50 <r0bby> no, we drove out to brooklyn
02:34:37 <r0bby> so I had my backpack and hoody, the hoody didnt fit in my backpack; when they dropped me off at my aunt's in brooklyn, i grabbed the backpack but forgot the hoody :(
02:37:22 <r0bby> :P
02:38:00 <Mkop> that explains your random IM last night
02:38:24 <r0bby> yes
02:41:19 <r0bby> all dents on identi.ca
02:41:23 <r0bby> from open everything
02:41:25 <r0bby> http://identi.ca/group/oe
02:41:36 <Keelhaul> http://scuttle.mirror.waffleimages.com/data/files/6e/6e1800eff5811339a25313900cd5c4acfa5ed2a3.jpg
02:41:39 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/39h$> (at scuttle.mirror.waffleimages.com)
02:43:50 <r0bby> Keelhaul: that's wrong
02:44:01 <r0bby> on many many levels
02:44:08 <Keelhaul> i think it's correct
02:44:10 <Mkop> Keelhaul: that's hilarious!
02:44:26 <Keelhaul> those hicks should go there if they dont like the current administration
02:45:30 <upul> but they have a right voice their view
02:45:50 <upul> otherwise it's dictatorship
02:46:01 <Keelhaul> of course
02:46:11 <r0bby> I do love the whole teabagging fiasco
02:48:26 <upul> r0bby's name is recorded in a server in the CIA head quarters
02:49:10 <Mkop> everyone's name prob is
02:49:40 <upul> in the naughty list
02:58:10 <r0bby> oh crap
02:59:30 <Mkop> lol
02:59:39 <Mkop> was that in response to upul?
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03:01:08 <r0bby> no that was response to my twitter being googleable
03:01:12 <r0bby> in the first page
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03:03:35 <Keelhaul> bwolfe, jmiranda: http://keelhaul.homeip.net/misc/upcoming.png
03:03:39 <Keelhaul> think anyone would need this?
03:03:50 <Keelhaul> a list of upcoming encounters for the day for a provider when they log in
03:03:53 <Keelhaul> on the home page
03:11:42 <r0bby> appointments Keelhaul :)
03:12:19 <Keelhaul> yea
03:12:27 <r0bby> I'd say yes
03:12:37 <Keelhaul> of course, this is no good if they dont let users set a time for encounters
03:12:40 <Keelhaul> but bwolfe objects
03:14:01 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: probably. wouldnt hurt putting it out there or offering it
03:14:29 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: i added that to the rolebasednavigation module
03:14:38 <Keelhaul> but now it wont work with 1.3- anymore
03:14:44 <Keelhaul> maybe a new branch is needed
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03:17:51 <bwolfe> not working w/ 1.3 is ok...
03:19:08 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: it was using PatientSet, had to adapt it to use cohorts
03:19:26 <Keelhaul> btw, PatientSet was removed, but PatientSetService is still there
03:19:29 <Keelhaul> is it there to stay?
03:19:37 <Keelhaul> only some methods were deprecated
03:21:36 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: it would also be nice if you could pass the date format to the date formatter instead of just a type
03:21:41 <bwolfe> prob not there permanently...but at least for the next few versions
03:21:56 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: that'd be a good enhancement for it
03:23:45 <jmiranda> Keelhaul: yeah, that looks promising
03:24:00 <Keelhaul> i'll add a patch for the date formatter tomorrow
03:24:02 <jmiranda> we actually have a concept for next visit
03:24:05 <Keelhaul> now, i'll watch House =)
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03:26:20 <Mkop> where's your twitter?
03:27:38 <Mkop> r0bby: ^^
03:34:01 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1421 (enhancement created): Enhanced message handling for localization within web pages <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1421>
04:09:42 <upul> 'computers are like air conditioners. they stop working if you open windows.'
04:12:54 <r0bby> http://identi.ca/robbyoconnor
04:13:01 <r0bby> it gets cross posted
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04:21:28 <upul> now the whole world knows your hoodie is in a trunk :-)
04:23:26 <r0bby> I had no other way of getting in touch
04:23:39 <r0bby> I really like that hoody
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06:53:51 <pascal`> morning gmt +- a few hours ppl
06:54:29 <upul> good morning pascal`
06:54:51 <pascal`> hi upul
06:55:09 <pascal`> what timezone are /you/ in?
06:55:25 <upul> gmt +5:30
06:56:05 <upul> it used change from +5 to +6 a lot some time back
06:56:07 <pascal`> so it's 12:25?
06:56:13 <upul> yes
06:56:17 <pascal`> ok
06:56:44 <pascal`> what country?
06:56:51 <upul> sri lanka
06:57:08 <pascal`> alright. cool.
06:57:30 <upul> there's a cricket tournament playing there
06:58:25 <upul> IPL
06:59:23 <rryan> Hi -- I just upgraded from 1.4 to trunk and now I'm getting "javax.servlet.jsp.JspException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: You must specify a fromAttribute when using the patientSet portlet" on any page view. I found http://blog.eflow.org/archives/226, but i'm not using any customizations whatsoever, the 1.4 install was fresh as of today.
06:59:23 <rryan>
07:00:08 <pascal`> upul: that is correct
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07:08:39 <upul> rryan: have you searched the code for a "popupTray"
07:09:59 <rryan> I checked to verify that headerFull was not using it anymore, but not everywhere
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07:30:40 <rryan> I commented patientSetPortletController from my openmrs-servlet.xml and now it works. That is probably not the correct way to fix it though.
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08:10:49 <pascal`> !list
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08:10:56 <pascal`> oops (=
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12:44:49 <nribeka> bwolfe, do i have the commit privileges? :)
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12:45:44 <bwolfe> yeah, for something like that :-)
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13:51:05 <bwolfe> nribeka: I think I might have the hibernate solution :-)
13:52:09 <nribeka> bwolfe, yes i'm listening
13:52:19 <nribeka> i'm reading wiki now
13:52:40 <bwolfe> reading wiki ?
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13:56:58 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Justin Miranda: Walk MS 2009 <http://blog.justinmiranda.com/2009/04/walk-ms-2009.html>
13:58:07 <nribeka> yeah. columbine
13:58:17 <nribeka> scary
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14:08:24 <bwolfe> nribeka: care to close out that ticket now? :-)
14:09:21 <nribeka> ok ok :)
14:10:37 <nribeka> bwolfe you fix the bug
14:10:48 <nribeka> all hail bwolfe ...
14:10:50 <nribeka> woohoooo
14:10:59 <bwolfe> well, "fixed" isn't really the right word
14:11:08 <bwolfe> I found a way for us to work around hibernate's bug :-)
14:12:22 <bwolfe> I had that epiphany randomly in the car yesterday. I don't remember even thinking about the bug...the solution just came to me!
14:15:35 <nribeka> wow ...
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14:16:14 <nribeka> kewl bwolfe
14:16:54 <bwolfe> yeah, just shows how much of a life I have...my subconscious thinks about openmrs all the time :-p
14:19:55 <nribeka> haha lol
14:20:05 <nribeka> it's all about openmrs then
14:20:09 <nribeka> anytime anywhere
14:20:12 <nribeka> :D
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14:27:03 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #725 (defect closed): PatientService unit test fails <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/725#comment:32> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7354]: Changed hibernate mapping for child collections to not lazy just in case a … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7354> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7353]: Modify the error message to reflect minimum sets of character required for … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7353>
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14:59:01 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1386 (enhancement closed): Auto registration of Handler Components <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1386#comment:7> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1236 (task closed): Initial setup wizard allows you to give a weak password to the admin user <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1236#comment:10>
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15:06:36 <upul> World's largest hostage rescue mission becomes success over 35,000 rescued http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkOWdjyQiE8
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15:12:43 <bwolfe> upul: nice. so the tigers have nothing left now? is the govt planning on just marching through and taking over now ?
15:16:16 <upul> bwolfe, If not for the people it would have been finished in a couple of hours, probably there are more people
15:16:47 <upul> about 17sqkm left and it's the no fire zone
15:17:42 <upul> so the government can't hit, but terrorist can do anything
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15:22:51 <bwolfe> upul: this is where navy seals / other covert operations come in handy
15:23:14 <bwolfe> upul: the cia would go in and the terrorist leader would just mysteriously die :-p
15:25:42 <upul> bwolfe, or may be leader has already escaped, his son (was leading a division) was reported escaped to eastern asia
15:26:31 <Keelhaul> what tigers
15:26:59 <Keelhaul> i thought the cia just does bribes and extortion, nothing physical
15:27:09 <upul> http://www.fbi.gov/page2/jan08/tamil_tigers011008.html
15:27:10 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1uTF> (at www.fbi.gov)
15:29:13 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1298 (defect closed): Unable to add new Encounter Types With Long Descriptions <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1298#comment:5> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7356]: atd:needs dss.jar in lib-common <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7356> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7355]: Increasing size of encounter_type.description column - #1298 Author: … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7355>
15:36:28 <upul> very quiet in #openmrs
15:46:50 <Mkop> !boom
15:46:50 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop: "boom" --- BOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!
15:46:59 <Mkop> watch what you ask for, upul
15:49:56 <upul> that's the sound of a pin hitting the ground :-)
15:50:41 <nribeka> someone is nervous waiting the gsoc list to come out ...
15:50:43 <nribeka> right Mkop?
15:50:44 <nribeka> lol
15:50:57 <Mkop> no, not at alll.......
15:52:06 <nribeka> not at all (trembling ...)
15:52:07 <nribeka> lol
15:52:26 <nribeka> what time they will announce the list?
15:53:02 <Mkop> noon pacific time
15:53:06 <Mkop> approximately
15:53:12 <upul> about 3 hours I think
15:53:14 <Mkop> or as they put it, **APPROXIMATELY**
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16:01:19 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1410 (defect closed): Delete Selected Encounter Types fails when there are no encounter types selected <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1410#comment:3> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7357]: Fixed encounter type list controller NPE if no encounter types were … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7357>
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16:43:38 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: remember that patch for the date formatter i was supposed to write?
16:43:49 <Keelhaul> well, turns out i cant do it
16:44:29 <Keelhaul> unless you know a way to selectively include changes to a file in a patch, not all changes
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16:45:13 <Keelhaul> because someone still hasnt commited that other patch that involves openmrs.tld
16:45:19 <Keelhaul> ;]
16:50:10 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: back out the first changes, create the patch, reapply the other changes
16:50:11 <bwolfe> :-p
16:51:18 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: it seems like everyone else with a + in front of their names can commit their own patches.,.
16:51:23 <Mkop> Keelhaul: alternatively, create the patch, open it in notepad, delete the ones you don't want to include
16:52:08 <bwolfe> yeah, modifying the .patch file by hand isn't too hard
16:55:47 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: i'm done
16:56:17 <Keelhaul> well, i'm lying
16:56:25 <Keelhaul> turns out all the stuff is supported already
16:56:26 <Keelhaul> lol
16:56:31 <Keelhaul> i was just sleepy last night
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17:05:20 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: what stuff? the date format ?
17:05:24 <Keelhaul> yea
17:05:44 <Keelhaul> <openmrs:formatDatedate="${encounter.encounterDatetime}"format="HH:mm"/>
17:13:29 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: if you're a doctor hating to have clinic duty, how would you want your appointments presented
17:13:38 <Keelhaul> in particular, the ones that are very soon or where you/the patient is late
17:13:45 <Keelhaul> i wanna dye them red
17:13:50 <Keelhaul> but you hate red, you said
17:14:16 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: heh, I don't like red for the required fields
17:14:41 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: red sounds good. or use a bar that separates the late appts from the upcoming ones
17:14:42 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: i was thinking red for encounters dates +/- 15 min
17:14:46 <bwolfe> or just a whole diff section
17:14:55 <Keelhaul> +with
17:15:06 <Keelhaul> i have three lists atm
17:15:10 <Keelhaul> past, imminent and future
17:15:20 <Keelhaul> listing them in the jsp in three loops
17:15:38 <Keelhaul> the past ones are supposed to be hidden by default
17:17:58 <Keelhaul> so you're saying 4 lists? past, late, soon and future?
17:18:06 <Keelhaul> or could "soon" be listed normally
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17:22:15 <bwolfe> soon+future
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17:23:26 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: + meaning "together" or "need both"?
17:24:10 <bwolfe> together
17:24:20 <Keelhaul> ok
17:25:07 <Mkop> Keelhaul: just wondering, what are you working on?
17:25:19 <Keelhaul> Mkop: what i showed last night
17:25:27 <Keelhaul> list of upcoming encounters on a provider's hp
17:25:50 <Mkop> I didn't see what you showed last night
17:26:06 <Keelhaul> o
17:26:25 <Mkop> is there a module or something for scheduling appointments? how is that done?
17:26:26 <Keelhaul> http://keelhaul.homeip.net/misc/upcoming.png
17:26:40 <Keelhaul> dunno
17:26:47 <Keelhaul> never heard of such a thing
17:27:01 <Keelhaul> i'm tweaking the rolebasednavigation module for that
17:27:42 <Mkop> how are encounters added in general? the only way I've seen is through the admin page, and that seems somewhat... clunky
17:28:54 <Keelhaul> yea
17:28:57 <Keelhaul> well
17:29:09 <Keelhaul> formentry too
17:29:16 <Mkop> oh, right
17:29:17 <Keelhaul> but that's kind of overkill if you dont want to add data too
17:29:40 <Mkop> you could just have a basic form with no extra data
17:29:44 <Keelhaul> yea
17:29:57 <Keelhaul> but if using encounters for appointments, it should happen fast
17:30:03 <Keelhaul> all formentry goes via the patient dashboard
17:30:06 <Keelhaul> that's too slow imo
17:30:18 <Keelhaul> so i added a quick link to the admin encounter page
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19:05:19 <Mkop> accepted students are up
19:05:20 <Mkop> http://socghop.appspot.com/org/home/google/gsoc2009/openmrs
19:05:36 <Mkop> :-( for me
19:06:44 <Mkop> sdefabbiakane r0bby rryan vindyani k_nishant check it out
19:06:49 <k_nishant> bwolfe:server is busy
19:06:57 <sdefabbiakane> attempting to
19:06:57 <k_nishant> plzz tell man
19:07:01 <k_nishant> server is busy
19:07:11 <k_nishant> Mkop: what is the result
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19:08:19 <ajitlodhi> some one help with result...
19:08:29 <ajitlodhi> its not coming
19:08:30 <Mkop> one sec, I'll post a screen shot somehwere
19:08:41 <ajitlodhi> k
19:08:51 <Keelhaul> heh
19:08:54 <Keelhaul> so many girls accepted =)
19:09:04 <Mkop> what's an easy image upload site?
19:09:06 <rryan> Google App Engine : scale in the cloud!
19:09:08 <ajitlodhi> :)
19:09:40 <bwolfe> this is bad for the app engine
19:09:43 <sdefabbiakane> yeah
19:09:46 <rryan> yea
19:09:49 <Mkop> yeah
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19:10:16 <upul> Mkop, http://imageshack.us/
19:11:15 <r0bby> cute
19:11:18 <Keelhaul> whats the difference between "implement active lists" and "support for active lists"
19:11:48 <Mkop> if anyone still can't get the results, they're here: http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4420/results.jpg
19:11:50 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/39t0> (at img300.imageshack.us)
19:12:48 <bwolfe> I think the wrong apps for that student got voted up. those students are accepted on one of their other projs
19:13:29 <k_nishant> :-( to see the result
19:14:53 <sdefabbiakane> ah well
19:15:05 <ajitlodhi> :(
19:15:08 <nribeka> i'm not accepted
19:15:12 <nribeka> :(
19:15:23 <nribeka> cheer up guys
19:15:25 <upul> nribeka, :-D
19:15:28 <nribeka> you still can contribute
19:15:43 <ajitlodhi> same here
19:15:46 <k_nishant> upul: r u accepted
19:15:55 <upul> nope
19:16:16 <k_nishant> wel the guys that are accepted that is not visible on the IRC
19:16:21 <nribeka> me too upul
19:16:28 <nribeka> at least we still can contribute
19:16:40 <ajitlodhi> does any here exist who is accepted
19:16:49 <Keelhaul> yea, r0bby =)
19:17:06 <Keelhaul> and Zhuang wei Lu from time to time
19:17:14 <k_nishant> well I'm teling the guys who are accpeted who are not vsible on IRC
19:17:15 <Keelhaul> omar and pavel too sometimes
19:17:21 <upul> 14 is a big number
19:17:34 <Keelhaul> you cant be invisible on irc, only not be on irc =P
19:17:54 <nribeka> why do i see r0bby on the accepted list?
19:18:00 <nribeka> congrats rob
19:18:08 <nribeka> is it the same r0bby? lol
19:18:15 <k_nishant> hmm congrates rob
19:18:57 <nribeka> i see at least 3 ladies on the accepted list
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19:23:39 <Mkop> yeah, congrats everyone who got accepted!
19:27:56 <r0bby> did yoiu get accepted?
19:28:01 <r0bby> sdefabbiakane ?
19:28:30 <sdefabbiakane> no =/
19:28:57 <r0bby> :(
19:29:40 <Mkop> bwolfe: for people who didn't get accepted, are any mentors available for unpaid projects?
19:30:40 <bwolfe> Mkop: yeah, probably. thats a good idea. I'm sure we could Keelhaul / nribeka would be willing to volunteer. :-)
19:31:22 <nribeka> haha ... sure thing bwolfe :D
19:31:23 <bwolfe> Mkop: I consider my time in here is general mentoring time. :-)
19:31:54 <Keelhaul> Echidna is a 24/7 mentor then =P
19:32:05 <nribeka> btw since the hibernate case is closed, i can take other tickets now
19:32:08 <nribeka> hahaha ... lol
19:32:17 <Keelhaul> nribeka: it is?
19:32:41 <bwolfe> nribeka: ah, good point! are you saying you're jones'ing for a new ticket?
19:32:41 <nribeka> i have other task with james_regen here too
19:32:42 <bwolfe> :-)
19:32:50 <Mkop> bwolfe: true, but that doesn't mean you'd be putting in the same time committment to any random project that some does as you would to a project that you're speficially mentoring
19:32:54 <bwolfe> boo on james_regen. do general tickets. :-D
19:33:15 <Keelhaul> nribeka: validators still need unit tests =P
19:33:22 <bwolfe> Mkop: very true.
19:33:25 <Mkop> OpenMRSBot is the biggest mentor around here then
19:33:25 <OpenMRSBot> Mkop: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
19:33:54 <nribeka> validators Keelhaul?
19:34:01 <james_regen> bwolfe: record linkage is just too much fun
19:34:09 <Mkop> Keelhaul or nribeka: you want to mentor me for a project?
19:34:10 <sdefabbiakane> well, I'll probably still be seeing you guys around this summer
19:34:14 <nribeka> james_regen vs bwolfe
19:34:16 <nribeka> haha ...
19:34:28 <Keelhaul> Mkop: depends on the project
19:34:32 <sdefabbiakane> but I'm out now
19:34:34 <bwolfe> sdefabbiakane: were you accepted elsewhere ?
19:34:44 <nribeka> i second to Keelhaul
19:35:05 <sdefabbiakane> bwolfe: not for GSoC, but I was just off the waitlist for the HFOSS institute, so I'll likely still be working on OpenMRS
19:35:05 <Keelhaul> i'll bbl. gotta buy frozen pizza before stores close
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19:35:11 <Mkop> part of what I need your guys' help with is coming up with a moderately sized project
19:35:25 <Mkop> so far, I've been doing a ticket here a ticket there
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19:35:56 <bwolfe> !refer Mkop [projects]
19:35:56 * OpenMRSBot refers Mkop to "projects" --- (#1) http://projects.openmrs.org, or (#2) http://openmrs.org/wiki/Unassigned_Projects
19:36:06 <bwolfe> theres a list there thats not GSoC
19:36:07 <Mkop> that might be a good approach for the summer, since it'll give me flexibility to work on other stuff (maybe including stuff that actually pays) but projects might also be good
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19:37:15 <sdefabbiakane> anyway, I'm supposed to be working right now, so I'm out for now
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19:38:15 <Mkop> bwolfe: did they not choose anyone for frontlinesms?
19:39:53 <r0bby> Mkop didn't get in :(
19:40:09 <Mkop> correct
19:40:20 <r0bby> i thought you were a shoe-in
19:40:30 <Mkop> my skills are lacking
19:40:41 <Mkop> my enthusiasm and passion are there, but not my skills
19:40:45 <bwolfe> http://pastebin.com/m1a4eb8c4
19:40:56 <bwolfe> upul and moses are going to be part of the OIP
19:40:57 <bwolfe> !oip
19:40:57 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: Error: "oip" is not a valid command.
19:41:20 <upul> http://openmrs.org/wiki/OIP
19:41:26 <bwolfe> !learn oip as http://openmrs.org/wiki/OIP
19:41:26 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: The operation succeeded.
19:41:48 <Mkop> oh, ok
19:42:18 <bwolfe> not really sure why the app titles are all messed up in the google app
19:42:20 <Mkop> I didn't realize upul applied
19:42:33 <upul> i applied for 7 of them
19:42:33 <Mkop> if I knew upul applied for active lists, I would have had my hopes up :-P
19:42:39 <r0bby> bwolfe: it was brought to its KNEES
19:42:48 <bwolfe> I'm pretty sure the students can edit their apps and clean it up
19:43:03 <bwolfe> r0bby: it == google app ?
19:43:11 <r0bby> yupppppppppppppppp
19:43:16 <r0bby> GAE went plop
19:43:35 <bwolfe> r0bby: the wrong project titles has nothing to do with melange not scaling though. its mentors not voting on the right app for the student
19:43:37 <nribeka> why didn't you choose me bwolfe?
19:43:43 <r0bby> heh
19:43:45 <nribeka> so sad ...
19:43:51 <nribeka> j/k
19:43:57 <bwolfe> you're not chinese enough :-p
19:43:59 <r0bby> bwolfe: I did get info on what went down on the mentors list
19:44:04 <nribeka> hahahaha ...
19:44:13 <r0bby> and I have to say, it makes me sick.
19:44:20 <r0bby> poor lh
19:44:28 <r0bby> I couldn't call her "lh" in person lol
19:44:32 <nribeka> what is it r0bby?
19:44:38 <bwolfe> r0bby: what went down on the mentors list?
19:45:22 <r0bby> bwolfe: dont think im supposed to publicize it :)
19:45:47 <nribeka> pm r0bby
19:45:51 <nribeka> haha
19:45:55 <bwolfe> ah, so you learned from last year, eh r0bby ? :-)
19:46:05 <r0bby> yeh...
19:46:12 <r0bby> though, i
19:46:15 <bwolfe> you mean info on what happened to the server though?
19:46:16 <r0bby> 'm no better in person!
19:46:17 <r0bby> lol
19:46:26 <r0bby> NOOO
19:46:28 <bwolfe> errr, not server, app engine
19:46:46 <r0bby> the app engine -- that's just the fact cloud computing is a scam
19:47:05 <bwolfe> and how are you on the mentors list?
19:47:14 <Mkop> bwolfe: do you know if there's any extra funding for runners up?
19:47:26 <Mkop> he's not on the mentors list, he just heard the gossip from lh at openeverything
19:47:33 <bwolfe> ah yes, ok
19:47:34 <Mkop> or the afterparty thereof
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19:48:37 <nribeka> bwolfe, any pointers on docs to create custom tag?
19:48:37 <nribeka> :D
19:48:56 <bwolfe> Mkop: I'm not sure. thats kind of what OIP is...except the people that give us OIP money stipulate that it must be for a developer in a low-income country
19:49:45 <bwolfe> Mkop: that can be looked into. the harder part will be getting someone for a (more than just in irc) mentor for you. :-)
19:50:11 <Mkop> $4500 might convince me to go to a low-income country for the summer :-)
19:50:16 <bwolfe> Mkop: we're tapped out at 14 until people lik nribeka, keelhaul, jacobb, etc volunteer to mentor...
19:50:23 <bwolfe> hehe
19:51:03 <nribeka> haha Mkop
19:52:28 <Mkop> what if one of you devs (you, paul, justin, burke, darius, etc.) helps one of (nribeka, keelhaul, etc.) come up with a project and then the +v guys would be the primary mentor?
19:52:56 <Mkop> bwolfe: you're listed as mentor for some of the projects on the unassigned projects page. Are you available during the summer to mentor those?
19:53:39 <bwolfe> Mkop: in a not-quite-full-time-mentor basis, yes.
19:53:57 <bwolfe> Mkop: FYI: but I used to be listed as mentor for all the projects :-p
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19:54:03 <Mkop> lol
19:55:18 <nribeka> wow a single-digit-ticket
19:55:28 <nribeka> brb
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19:55:55 <nribeka> Nzeyi, congrats
19:56:29 <Mkop> bwolfe: boolean concepts seems really easy. Is there a hidden catch?
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19:57:11 <bwolfe> Mkop: no, not really. its fairly easy.
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19:57:22 <nribeka> upul: congrats
19:57:36 <upul> nribeka, thanks :-)
19:57:36 <Nzeyi> Thanks nribeka
19:57:42 <Mkop> you know what you should do? create a unified place for blogs. blogs.openmrs.org/docpaul, blogs.openmrs.org/burke, etc.
19:57:58 <bwolfe> http://feed.openmrs.org
19:58:02 <upul> Nzeyi, you are in seattle?
19:58:04 <Nzeyi> that should be great
19:58:08 <Nzeyi> yes
19:58:39 <nribeka> upul how do you know Nzeyi in seattle?
19:58:39 <bwolfe> actually, its http://feed.openmrs.org/tag/blog
19:58:47 <nribeka> anyway gotta run
19:58:54 <Nzeyi> still have a month to leave !!
19:58:55 <upul> saw a mail in gsoc list
19:59:23 <Nzeyi> you mean the meetups mailing list ?
19:59:37 <upul> yes one of those
19:59:45 <Nzeyi> ok
20:01:37 <Nzeyi> and where are you upul ?
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20:02:01 <upul> Nzeyi, sri lanka
20:02:59 <Nzeyi> ok, I see
20:03:14 <Nzeyi> let me get out for lunch
20:03:46 <r0bby> meetups list
20:04:02 <r0bby> use the meetips list to faciliate your meetups :)
20:04:02 <Nzeyi> Congrats for all gsoc 09 students
20:04:09 <r0bby> Nzeyi: =D
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20:07:13 <Mkop> bwolfe: why can't I edit the wiki?
20:07:25 <Mkop> I got a 403
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20:08:48 <r0bby> bwolfe: burke isnt mentoring this summer?
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20:09:31 <Mkop> active lists is him, isn't it?
20:10:01 <upul> he's doing active lists
20:11:21 <Mkop> uh oh, seems the website is down
20:11:31 <bwolfe> Mkop: its only down for you
20:11:44 <bwolfe> Mkop: thats our "helpful" intrusion detection
20:12:14 <Mkop> in just a minute I'm gonna get +b by the bot, right?
20:12:57 <bwolfe> hehe
20:13:00 <bwolfe> yeah, they're all linked
20:13:07 <bwolfe> which page were you editing Mkop ?
20:13:44 <bwolfe> I should be able to whitelist that rule that banned you...not sure about unbanning you from the website though
20:14:42 <Mkop> since it was a 403 and not mediawiki saying I'm unauthorized, I suspect it's a client-server communication thing and not an authorization issue
20:15:51 <bwolfe> Mkop: its a "your submission had a drug name in it so we think you are a spammer. we will 403 you for 10 mins"
20:16:07 <bwolfe> which is a problem if someone is trying to edit a wiki page with a drug name :-p
20:16:19 <Mkop> lol
20:16:45 <Mkop> I was fixing a bad link on the projects page
20:17:04 <Mkop> what software has that rule?
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20:18:25 <bwolfe> its part of atomic secured linux
20:18:35 <bwolfe> which is atomicturtle's tool for plesk
20:19:52 <Mkop> and he can't disable that feature?
20:21:53 <Mkop> so apparently the server isn't just 403ing me, it's giving me the silent treatment
20:21:59 <Mkop> oh, it works now
20:22:22 <bwolfe> Mkop: we can totally disable it, but he claims it would be bad. so we just whitelist whatever rules fail
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20:26:15 <Mkop> bwolfe: I'm tentatively "applying" for the boolean data project
20:27:20 <Mkop> probably also for module data review or approximate date support
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20:36:15 <bwolfe> awesome. :-)
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21:30:12 <Zakaria> Hi
21:30:25 <Zakaria> bwolfe ?
21:31:22 <bwolfe> hey
21:32:00 <Zakaria> it is really sad Sir , I didn't get selected
21:32:21 <Zakaria> do you know why Sir?
21:32:59 <Zakaria> I really loved the project
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21:33:49 <bwolfe> we had a really good crop of students this year
21:34:00 <bwolfe> we actually had about 7 students that we wanted to take...but couldn't
21:34:02 <bwolfe> :-/
21:34:41 <nribeka> why bwolfe?
21:35:41 <nribeka> keep the enthusiasm Zakaria
21:35:56 <nribeka> :D
21:36:06 <Zakaria> I will try
21:36:20 <Zakaria> Thanks
21:36:34 <bwolfe> Zakaria: I can give you feedback offline
21:36:44 <Zakaria> ok
21:36:56 <nribeka> how about from openmrs itself bwolfe?
21:36:59 <bwolfe> Zakaria: send me an email and I will look at it later. I need to run home now
21:37:16 <nribeka> cya laters then bwolfe
21:37:29 <bwolfe> what do you mean nribeka ?
21:37:38 <nribeka> i thought you're leaving?
21:37:39 <nribeka> lol
21:37:52 <nribeka> ooo ic ic
21:39:27 <nribeka> 16 totals
21:39:47 <bwolfe> nribeka: oh, I see
21:39:55 <bwolfe> 14 from google, 2 from openmrs money (OIP)
21:41:51 <bwolfe> ok, /now/ I'm leaving. cya guys
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21:41:58 <upul> bye
21:42:02 <nribeka> cya later bwolfe
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23:00:49 <Keelhaul> nribeka: you said you fixed the hibernate error?
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