IRC Chat : 2009-04-15 - OpenMRS

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00:05:20 <r0bby> docpaul: just saw an amazing thing on ABC News
00:05:48 <jmiranda> hey paul, pretty god
00:05:51 <jmiranda> good
00:05:58 <r0bby> Forteo (PTH-1-34, the first 34 molecutes of the hormone, out of which there are 84) is being used to treat slow healing broken bones
00:06:14 <jmiranda> docpaul: i hear you guys have been busy over there :)
00:06:18 <jmiranda> congratulations
00:06:37 <r0bby> version i'm on which will be called PREOS which is the full hormone, is what i'm on marketed by NPS Pharmacutricals(sp?)
00:06:59 <jmiranda> Keelhaul: oh, that's supposed to be patent pending on utensils :)
00:07:06 <Keelhaul> yea
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00:07:15 <r0bby> it's kinda neat knowing that synthetic parathyroid hormone has a lot of uses outside of what it SHOULD have been used for in the first place :)
00:07:28 <r0bby> (treatment of hypoparathyroidism)
00:07:54 <r0bby> figured you may find it interesting being a doctor and all :) docpaul
00:08:36 <r0bby> University of Rochester is where the study was conducted i believe ABC news said.
00:09:07 <jmiranda> r0bby: i just asked my girlfriend megan (who's in the other room) what hypoparathyroidism was
00:09:16 <docpaul> justin: sadie is in my lap now. :)
00:09:17 <jmiranda> and she was like "are you kidding?"
00:09:36 <jmiranda> she's reading that chapter at this exact minute
00:09:42 <jmiranda> (she's in med school)
00:09:54 <jmiranda> docpaul: did she type that?
00:10:03 <r0bby> jmiranda: it's a condition in which calcium isn't properly regulated
00:10:17 <r0bby> It's SUPER rare
00:10:25 <r0bby> VERY few docs know of it it's sad
00:10:28 <docpaul> crystal doesnt care so much for the laptop in the crub
00:10:46 <docpaul> hypoparathyroidism is pretty commonly taught in medical school
00:10:48 <docpaul> but rarely seen
00:10:49 <jmiranda> r0bby: yeah, i'm reading up on it now
00:11:06 <r0bby> I went to the ER once because my calcium was either too high or too low (it was likely high since I had just done a PTH injection was causes a spike in calcium levels in the blood)
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00:11:30 <r0bby> suspected that I had just starteyd getting full doses because i wasnt properly loading the cartidges getting rid of air
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00:11:36 <r0bby> suspected that I had just starteyd getting full doses because i wasnt properly loading the cartidges getting rid of air
00:11:41 <r0bby> docpaul: yeh
00:11:48 <r0bby> less than 3000 people world wide
00:11:54 <r0bby> \even rarer is idiopathic cases
00:12:05 <r0bby> I know 3 people who I'm VERY good friends w/ now :)
00:12:18 <r0bby> docpaul: if you encounter any patients: http://www.hpth.org
00:12:20 <jmiranda> r0bby: did you meet randomly?
00:12:23 <r0bby> there is an indiana chapter as well
00:12:33 <r0bby> jmiranda: no conference for patients in DC last summer
00:12:38 <jmiranda> r0bby: got it
00:12:51 <r0bby> seemed all the idiopathic cases bonded quickly
00:12:57 <r0bby> a good chunk were surgical
00:13:19 <r0bby> I was gonna do genetic testing, there's a study at Mass. General right now
00:13:29 <r0bby> met the two docs conducting it at the conference
00:13:32 <Keelhaul> r0bby: whats the difference to hyperthyroidism?
00:13:35 <Keelhaul> err
00:13:36 <Keelhaul> hypo*
00:13:40 <Keelhaul> w/o the para
00:13:51 <r0bby> thyroid is a different gland
00:14:28 <r0bby> typically what happens when people have thyroid cancer and a surgeon goes in to remove the thyroid, they knick the parathyroid and the BAm that's the surgical cause
00:14:35 <r0bby> they wake in tetany
00:14:52 <r0bby> I lucked out in that i have no symptoms unless it's REALLY bad
00:15:03 <Keelhaul> did you have thyroid cancer?
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00:15:20 <r0bby> no, i'm one of those idiopathic cases which they dont know how it happened
00:15:28 <r0bby> idiopathic meaning unknown cause
00:15:32 <Keelhaul> oh
00:15:49 <Keelhaul> damn
00:15:53 <Keelhaul> sounds like a painful business
00:15:57 <r0bby> it's not
00:16:14 <Keelhaul> according to the symptoms listed on wik
00:16:15 <Keelhaul> i
00:16:25 <r0bby> I just gotta take an active form of vitamin D called calcitriol and calcium, magenisum, and D3 for the rest of my life
00:16:33 <r0bby> none of which i have
00:16:58 <Keelhaul> i have magnesium pills here on my desk
00:17:20 <r0bby> I have a HORRIBLE habit of forgetting doses
00:17:33 <docpaul> keel: what did you think?
00:17:47 <Keelhaul> doc: of?
00:17:50 <docpaul> fairly basic, but at least implies a background understanding of openmrs
00:17:54 <docpaul> those tickets?
00:18:01 <Keelhaul> not done with the third one yet
00:18:33 <r0bby> I am working with people who are pretty damn near experts on the topic at columbia university medical center :)
00:18:56 <docpaul> there's a big time openmrs enthusiast @ columbia
00:19:02 <docpaul> his name is andy kanter
00:19:06 <docpaul> you should go visit him
00:19:11 <r0bby> the hormone replacement im on isn't on the market officially, it's in phase 3 trials right now, close to PDA approval :)
00:19:19 <r0bby> docpaul: I know
00:19:25 <r0bby> next time i'm at an appt i'll go
00:19:47 <r0bby> I'm in harkness pavillion though
00:19:58 <r0bby> which is on Fort Washington Ave
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00:20:11 <Keelhaul> docpaul: he's in abidjan right now, isnt he?
00:20:20 <docpaul> who?
00:20:22 <Keelhaul> andy
00:20:23 <r0bby> docpaul: you should go to Open Everything this sat :)
00:20:25 <r0bby> I'll be there
00:20:31 <r0bby> http://nyc.openeverything.us
00:20:41 <docpaul> i went to the open everything in vancouver:
00:20:47 <r0bby> how was it?
00:21:07 <docpaul> http://openeverything.wik.is/Retreat_wiki
00:21:10 <docpaul> pretty good
00:21:15 <r0bby> it's gonna be annoying, i have to get up at an ungodly hour
00:21:16 <docpaul> i enjoyed it
00:21:24 <r0bby> but hopefully it works out
00:21:28 <r0bby> I get to meet lh finally
00:21:59 <docpaul> leslie is a good friend of mine
00:22:05 <r0bby> I know
00:22:16 <r0bby> I feel bad for driving her bonkers last summer
00:22:19 <docpaul> hehe
00:22:28 <docpaul> have you sorted it all out? :)
00:22:50 <r0bby> she doesn't mind me participating :)
00:23:00 <r0bby> I learned how to deal w/ noise on the student list etc
00:23:05 <r0bby> filters!
00:23:24 <r0bby> that list gets some insane traffic
00:23:46 <docpaul> yep
00:23:58 <r0bby> mentors list isn't any better i'd imagine
00:24:11 <docpaul> it's very busy and very... well, political
00:24:13 <r0bby> http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story?id=7332563&page=1
00:24:15 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/38WZ> (at abcnews.go.com)
00:24:17 <r0bby> paul the story
00:24:22 <jmiranda> r0bby: i just fixed my filters for ThunderBird and Blackberry to redirect/silence the gsoc mentor list
00:24:38 <r0bby> I dont even let them hit thunderbird
00:24:47 <r0bby> I filter them on the gmail side
00:24:50 <jmiranda> i love gsoc, but the conversations that go on there are sometimes pointless
00:25:11 <r0bby> I wonder how half these students managed to get accepted, they lack research skills etc
00:25:13 <docpaul> jmiranda: tell me about it
00:25:24 <docpaul> r0bby: have a second to talk about GSoC?
00:25:30 <r0bby> docpaul: sure
00:25:34 <jmiranda> and it's just a constant "ping, ping, ping..." on my blackberry
00:25:40 <r0bby> pm or here?
00:28:19 <Keelhaul> #gsoc
00:28:43 <Keelhaul> 422 ppl heh
00:29:55 <Keelhaul> [mharrison] is n=mharriso@c-71-192-116-155.hsd1.ma.comcast.net * Matthew Harrison - formerly [OmegentooX]
00:29:58 <Keelhaul> wasnt this guy here last year
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00:34:07 <jmiranda> Keelhaul: yes
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00:38:04 <Keelhaul> http://www.bradcolbow.com/archive.php/?p=65
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00:50:03 <r0bby> I want an openmrs t-shirt :<
00:50:57 <r0bby> or is that only OIP?
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01:03:45 <r0bby> burke!
01:03:49 <r0bby> burke: petard
01:03:52 <r0bby> er
01:04:06 <Keelhaul> lol wat
01:04:28 <r0bby> petard
01:04:32 <r0bby> UGH
01:04:39 <r0bby> http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story?id=7332563&page=1
01:04:40 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/38WZ> (at abcnews.go.com)
01:04:42 <r0bby> there we go
01:04:51 <r0bby> burke: may be interesting to know :0
01:04:52 <r0bby> :)
01:05:57 <burke> (disclaimer) Burke's wife works for Lilly
01:06:01 <r0bby> Forteo has found yet another use :)
01:06:24 <r0bby> burke: yeh, they're not persuing approval for use in hypoparathyroidism
01:06:29 <r0bby> NPS seems to be doing that
01:06:41 <r0bby> though, the NIH has a study going on right now using Forteo
01:07:26 <r0bby> how in the world do they come up w/ these generic names
01:07:59 <Keelhaul> burke: =(
01:08:46 <burke> Keelhaul: ?
01:08:55 <Keelhaul> pharmaceutical industry
01:09:14 <Keelhaul> always hear evil things about them
01:09:30 <Keelhaul> not as bad as the tobacco industry or monsanto, though..
01:09:42 <r0bby> Keelhaul: in this case, they're extremely helpful
01:09:49 <Keelhaul> yea
01:09:53 <r0bby> this is something that is long overdue
01:10:06 <Keelhaul> a lot of things are overdue
01:10:35 <r0bby> No pharma companies want to invest in a rare disease,the fact NPS is doing it is amazing
01:10:58 <r0bby> the NIH is using Forteo off label
01:11:23 <burke> dunno about pharma companies in general, but we've met some really nice people though Lilly ... lot's of international friends.
01:12:10 <burke> fwiw... my wife is not evil. :)
01:12:19 <Keelhaul> =P
01:12:28 <r0bby> I know she's not
01:12:31 <Keelhaul> well there are two types it seems
01:12:36 <Keelhaul> the ones that do research
01:12:45 <Keelhaul> and the ones that produce generics after the patent has expired
01:12:52 <Keelhaul> both have their good and bad sides
01:12:59 <Keelhaul> there was a scandal here recently
01:13:06 <Keelhaul> involving ratiopharm, i think
01:13:06 <r0bby> NPS gets a patent for i think it's 8 to 10 years
01:13:27 <r0bby> since preos will have 'orphan drug' status
01:13:35 <Keelhaul> about giving "gifts" to physicians
01:14:11 <Keelhaul> i'm not sure we have any lilly products here
01:14:31 <r0bby> Keelhaul: Forteo isn't there?
01:15:48 <Keelhaul> not sure
01:17:02 <r0bby> it's primarily used for Osteoperosis(sp?)
01:17:19 <r0bby> with a limit on how long the therapy lasts, in my case it'll be the rest of my life
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01:19:35 <Keelhaul> r0bby: there is "forsteo"
01:19:41 <Keelhaul> http://www.sanicare.de/produkte/suche.html;jsessionid=D1521B596D1514DCF71B09E3C35F1558.web2
01:19:44 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/38XG> (at www.sanicare.de)
01:19:51 <Keelhaul> not from lilly though
01:19:58 <Keelhaul> ridiculously expensive
01:26:09 <Keelhaul> heh
01:26:16 <Keelhaul> lilly has its own controversy wiki page
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02:27:34 <Keelhaul> does anyone know anything about that tomcat 6.0.18 bug?
02:27:38 <Keelhaul> i heard some talk
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02:40:02 <r0bby> what bug
02:40:19 <r0bby> I did notice that there was a vunerability about RequestDispatcher in one of the versions
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03:50:15 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1410 (defect created): Delete Selected Encounter Types fails when there are no encounter types selected <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1410>
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04:00:37 <docpaul> djmlog103_: I must compliment you... great application for quartz scheduler!
04:00:50 <docpaul> love the wireframes
04:00:58 <djmlog103_> thanks a lot. :)
04:01:07 <djmlog103_> glad you liked them
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04:03:23 <r0bby> djmlog103_: best of luck
04:04:52 <djmlog103_> thanks a lot. :)
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04:49:38 <ajitlodhi> hey jmiranda ,,its getting harder and harder now...to wait for results...
04:49:53 <ajitlodhi> some hint from ur side
04:51:48 * r0bby slaps ajitlodhi
04:51:51 <r0bby> wait like the rest of us!
04:52:00 <r0bby> :)
04:52:08 <r0bby> good luck by the way :)
04:52:16 <r0bby> what are you going for?
04:52:37 <ajitlodhi> same to u ...student Bachelor
04:52:54 <ajitlodhi> going for ...means project?
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05:01:42 <r0bby> Aggregate Data Entry tools
05:02:21 <r0bby> I'm pretty sure i'm gonna get in, but nothing is official until google announces it on April 20
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05:14:29 <ajitlodhi> cool..
05:14:35 <ajitlodhi> cograts...in advance..
05:14:45 <r0bby> no guarantees
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05:27:40 <r0bby> ajitlodhi: what project?
05:34:00 <ajitlodhi> role based home project
05:34:21 <ajitlodhi> may i ask what make u feel that u will get selected...?
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06:21:23 <r0bby> ajitlodhi: hunch :)
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11:10:32 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: link field between person and patient table in the model <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=436#p1520>
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11:42:10 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: link field between person and patient table in the model <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=436#p1521>
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12:12:43 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7326]: Add doc folder <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7326>
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12:44:40 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7327]: Add installer documentation <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7327>
12:50:04 <pascal`> hi
12:51:58 <pascal`> jmiranda, any advice on where to start debugging if openmrs can't load the jdbc driver while trying to run a birt report?
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12:52:38 <pascal`> Cannot open the connection for the driver: org.eclipse.birt.report.data.oda.jdbc Cannot load JDBC Driver class: com.mysql.jdbc.Driver
12:54:55 <pascal`> awesome, solved
12:55:32 <pascal`> can anyone verify if this driver is broken? http://svn.openmrs.org/openmrs/trunk/lib/mysql-connector-java/mysql-connector-java-3.1.10-bin.jar
12:55:48 <pascal`> linked to from: http://openmrs.org/wiki/BIRT_Report_Module_Install_Guide
12:55:49 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/38bh> (at openmrs.org)
12:56:22 <bwolfe> pascal`: the driver in trunk has been upgraded
12:56:33 <bwolfe> so yes, that one is probably broken
12:56:39 <bwolfe> its 5+ now or something
12:56:50 <pascal`> i switched to 3.1.14 and it work
12:57:12 <pascal`> i also have the 5.x driver, but i didn't need to try it
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12:59:15 <pascal`> i'll update the wiki
13:06:14 <bwolfe> thanks
13:06:42 <pascal`> no thanks needed, it's my project too now =D
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13:48:48 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: link field between person and patient table in the model <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=436#p1522>
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14:53:42 <omar> @bwolfe
14:54:29 <bwolfe> yes sir
14:54:29 <omar> hi, I have a doubt, Im going to put some references to css classes in the portlets of patientashboard
14:54:34 <omar> good morning
14:55:05 <omar> In the patch that recently you applied from Zakaria for findobservation
14:55:28 <omar> the classes that are now... there are not in openmrs.css
14:56:11 <omar> ?? there are just a future classes that already are not designed?
14:56:31 <bwolfe> correct
14:57:01 <omar> ok, so, there's any convention in the name that i must follow for the classes in the portlets?
14:57:53 <bwolfe> lowercase first letter
14:58:02 <bwolfe> unique ids
14:58:08 <bwolfe> classes named appropriately
14:58:10 <bwolfe> etc
14:58:17 <bwolfe> not too many conventions...and nothing very wild
14:58:23 <omar> e.g. in patientOverview , in patientSummary i have put this
14:58:25 <omar> <tr class="patientSummary">
15:00:19 <omar> its just that in inner tds, sometimes the id can be my option for the outer tr, like in <td id="patientActionsOutcome">
15:01:16 <bwolfe> the tr probably shouldn't be named patientSummary
15:01:26 <bwolfe> it should be patientSummaryRow and the table should be patientSummary, no ?
15:02:23 <omar> allright, then we can follow that
15:02:50 <omar> tr goes with a suffix Row, it's Ok?
15:04:34 <bwolfe> sure
15:08:09 <omar> OK, maybe at noon I can send you a patch for one portlet, to see if I'm going well
15:20:57 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7329]: openmrs-logic:package.html from trunk <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7329> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7328]: openmrs-logic:Merging trunk into branch [7122]:[7309] <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7328>
15:23:08 <bwolfe> omar: ok, thats fine
15:23:28 <omar> sorry, last issue, in cases
15:23:58 <omar> where any table just have one row, and inside that row there are divs and etc.
15:24:24 <omar> that single row, do you prefer it with id or with class?
15:24:52 <bwolfe> class
15:24:57 <omar> ok
15:25:00 <omar> right
15:25:13 <omar> see you later
15:26:02 <bwolfe> cya
15:26:06 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: someone also ought to add a style for the "required" class to the css
15:27:00 <bwolfe> isn't htat part of that other ticket?
15:27:15 <Keelhaul> prolly
15:27:42 <Keelhaul> gtg get a carwash etc on this sunny late afternoon
15:27:43 <Keelhaul> bbl
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20:53:23 <markfeferman> sup?
20:53:35 <bwolfe> hey
20:54:07 <bwolfe> what can we do for you mark ? :-)
20:54:10 <markfeferman> is OpenMRS used by any medical institutions?
20:54:25 <markfeferman> Just wondering?
20:54:48 <bwolfe> most people using it are using it in a clinical setting
20:54:50 <markfeferman> I guess I should probably read a little bit more about the project before asking a question like that. ;)
20:54:57 <markfeferman> gotcha
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20:55:15 <markfeferman> ok, sorry to bother you all. Keep up the work! It's needed.
20:55:16 <bwolfe> there are a few hospitals in pakistan and I think a large effort is underway in india to add some modules to use it in some regional hospitals there
20:55:48 <bwolfe> we estimate there are 50+ places its being used around the world
20:55:59 <markfeferman> very nce
20:56:02 <markfeferman> nice
20:56:05 <bwolfe> I only know of 20-30...but downloads say there are a ton more than that
20:56:16 <markfeferman> i'm out...looking for some secure coding templates... found you guys in a google search.
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20:56:37 <bwolfe> interesting, ok
20:56:59 <bwolfe> not sure what he meant by "secure coding templates"
20:59:25 <Keelhaul> me neither
20:59:57 <bwolfe> did a "whois" on him though. he was dialing in from halliburton.com! :-)
21:00:03 <Keelhaul> =o
21:00:49 <Keelhaul> this cant be good
21:06:26 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: your /whois traces the ip?
21:06:37 <Keelhaul> or do you mean linux whois
21:06:57 <bwolfe> if the user is on mibbit, it shows the isp I think
21:07:22 <bwolfe> do one on pascal and you will see
21:07:32 <Keelhaul> hm
21:07:32 <bwolfe> his was: [markfeferman] (i=409a1afa@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-22201320c5f10eaf): halhoupro1.halliburton.com
21:07:33 <Keelhaul> oh
21:07:39 <Keelhaul> ok
21:07:49 <Keelhaul> feferman is a funny name =)
21:08:15 <bwolfe> maybe its Mark F. Eferman
21:08:28 <bwolfe> "ef" "eferman" sounds funny
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21:26:47 <r0bby> what is halliburton.com?
21:26:51 <r0bby> sounds bad
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21:49:16 <andrewaclt> It's a us defense contractor with ties to Cheney
21:49:49 <andrewaclt> maybe not defense
21:49:51 <andrewaclt> sorry energy
21:50:40 <Keelhaul> i think they do all the civilian personnell recruiting in iraq
21:51:06 <andrewaclt> It owns KBR, or used to which does all the contruction in iraq
21:51:23 <andrewaclt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton
21:51:26 <andrewaclt> =)
21:52:42 <Keelhaul> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton#Gang_rape =o
21:52:44 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/38l7> (at en.wikipedia.org)
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21:56:03 <r0bby> j,,
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22:03:46 <r0bby> hey jmiranda :)
22:03:47 <r0bby> suppp
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22:13:16 <jmiranda> hey r0bby
22:13:20 <jmiranda> not much
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22:19:30 <Keelhaul> hey Zakaria, i'd really appreaciate it if you did this ticket: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1393
22:19:31 <Keelhaul> =)
22:20:03 <Zakaria> ok I will try
22:20:57 <Keelhaul> Zakaria: basically, all it involves is moving the validator classes to the new location
22:21:07 <Keelhaul> and updating the mappings for each one
22:21:41 <Zakaria> ok no problem
22:21:46 <Keelhaul> they're in http://svn.openmrs.org/openmrs/trunk/web/WEB-INF/openmrs-servlet.xml
22:21:48 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/38lY> (at svn.openmrs.org)
22:23:05 <r0bby> Keelhaul you mentoring this summer?
22:23:07 <r0bby> or no?
22:23:16 <Keelhaul> no
22:24:38 <omar_verduga> hi Keelhaul
22:24:48 <Keelhaul> hi
22:25:33 <omar_verduga> a silly doubt i think, the portlets in the portlet dir are just portlets by name not by his functionality?
22:26:05 <r0bby> portlets allow you to change certain points in the application
22:26:35 <r0bby> you can technically modify the entire app if you wanted
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22:26:50 <omar_verduga> I mean, that this portlets are not like yahoo widgets or something, there are more like a tiles fragment right?
22:26:59 <r0bby> ex) add a tab to the patient dash
22:27:12 <r0bby> i believe so omar_verduga
22:27:21 <r0bby> just in the fragment sense
22:27:39 <Keelhaul> portlets here basically add pieces of html/javascript to a page
22:27:45 <Keelhaul> like a new tab, new box etc
22:27:52 <r0bby> it's quite nice
22:28:03 <r0bby> mmm coffee
22:28:05 <omar_verduga> yes, but these modifications are globlas
22:28:12 <Keelhaul> r0bby: i wish i could replace things with a portlet though
22:28:16 <r0bby> for the most part
22:28:24 <omar_verduga> global for application , or its stored in user profile?
22:28:31 <r0bby> global for the app
22:28:34 <omar_verduga> ok
22:28:37 <omar_verduga> right
22:28:42 <omar_verduga> thanks
22:31:07 <Zakaria> is there any one here that know the arguments behind the choice of using Dojo library ?
22:31:59 <bwolfe> Zakaria: back when I included it into openmrs the only choices were either dojo or yahootoolkit. dojo won easily
22:32:47 <Zakaria> ok now I know
22:33:12 <Zakaria> Thanks
22:33:32 <Zakaria> I was just curious about that
22:34:59 <r0bby> jquery wasn't there?
22:35:11 <r0bby> I'm gonna use dojo this summer maybe
22:35:25 <r0bby> (if selected!)
22:35:41 <bwolfe> no, at least it wasn't around with a large following yet
22:35:51 <r0bby> heh
22:35:55 <r0bby> jquery is nice
22:35:56 <r0bby> I <3 it
22:36:00 <bwolfe> I remember looking and doing mockup of three things. I can't remember the third one...but I know it wasn't jquery
22:36:26 <bwolfe> the jquery library is in trunk and we plan on porting the dojo widgets to jquery eventually
22:36:57 <r0bby> I Love the CSS selectors
22:37:06 <r0bby> $("#foo").fadeIn("slow");
22:37:10 <r0bby> sexy
22:37:29 <r0bby> for a css element with an id of "foo"
22:38:30 <bwolfe> yeah, they're nice for the developer. but I find its harder to quickly scan through jquery because of that
22:38:48 <bwolfe> you have to really read the line because only one character changes what everything means :-p
22:39:51 <r0bby> true :)
22:40:21 <Zakaria> bwolfe is there are any plans of migrating to jQuery ?
22:40:38 <bwolfe> see my comment 9 lines up
22:41:26 <Zakaria> ok , I see
22:42:58 <Keelhaul> =o
22:43:06 <Keelhaul> i hear you guys are having a bed bug plague
22:44:02 <r0bby> not here
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23:20:29 <bwolfe> bed bug plague ? I thought bed bugs were made up
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23:36:19 <Zakaria> bwolfe : I was told to handle this ticket : http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1393 , is it valid ?
23:36:48 <bwolfe> yep
23:37:41 <r0bby> Zakaria: Keelhaul knows a lot
23:37:46 <r0bby> I'm shocked he's not mentoring
23:37:48 <r0bby> (he so should!)
23:39:26 <Keelhaul> =o
23:39:39 <Keelhaul> tickets that arent closed are all valid =P
23:40:59 <bwolfe> yeah, I usually close tickets I disagree with :-)