IRC Chat : 2009-04-08 - OpenMRS

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01:47:15 <vindyani> why we can't see jmiranda in this channel
01:47:23 <vindyani> is he on leave?
01:53:23 <r0bby> he's not here
01:53:31 <r0bby> you can email him
01:53:36 <r0bby> or add him on skype
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01:55:29 <vindyani> ok thanks
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02:39:59 <r0bby> jmiranda you had somebody looking for you earlier (vindyani)
02:40:21 <jmiranda> r0bby: thanks
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04:36:54 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7274]: Removing unnecessary parameter in a call to openmrs:concept tag <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7274>
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06:18:08 <r0bby> sdefabbiakane: o/ :)
06:18:24 <sdefabbiakane> hey
06:18:54 <r0bby> I'm off to bed figured id say Hi :P
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06:38:33 <sdefabbiakane> alright (sorry, not really paying attention to this window)
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07:01:44 <upul> Hi Mkop2, you went home?
07:02:22 <Mkop2> yep
07:02:27 <Mkop2> home for passover
07:02:30 <Mkop2> crazy busy
07:02:39 <Mkop2> getting ready for the holiday, dealing with family, etc. etc.
07:03:13 <Mkop2> first holiday since my brother got married in December, so we have to figure things out with one extra person (my sister in law)
07:03:47 <upul> what about the couch?
07:04:00 <Mkop2> ?
07:04:11 <pascal`> lol
07:04:21 <Mkop2> the problem isn't having enough space to sleep
07:04:40 <Mkop2> the problem is just dealing with everyone's personal styles and getting along with no bumps
07:13:07 <sdefabbiakane> Mkop2: what are you doing still awake?
07:14:18 <Mkop2> it's only 1:15 AM here
07:14:24 <Mkop2> but I'm working on a paper which is due at 7AM
07:14:30 <Mkop2> well, the first draft is due
07:14:36 <Mkop2> I haven't started yet
07:14:55 <sdefabbiakane> oh, ok
07:15:03 <sdefabbiakane> 3:15 here =/
07:15:26 <pascal`> 09:15 here (=
07:18:51 <upul> what do you do pascal`?
07:19:09 <pascal`> i work on openmrs :)
07:19:16 <pascal`> oh
07:19:23 <pascal`> and i'm a doing a masters in bioinformatics
07:19:34 <pascal`> doing the masters part time tho
07:19:37 <pascal`> u?
07:19:44 <upul> that's nice
07:20:01 <upul> i'm doing msc in enterprise application development
07:20:11 <upul> title sounds nice
07:20:56 <upul> pascal`: you're working?
07:21:24 <upul> at openmrs
07:21:48 <upul> something in SA
07:22:49 <Mkop2> pascal`: what university are you at?
07:23:05 <pascal`> i'm working at the Medical
07:23:17 <pascal`> Research Council in SA (soz, netbook keyboard =\)
07:23:37 <pascal`> I'm doing my Masters through Stellenbosch University in cape town...
07:24:24 <pascal`> not really finding much time to work on my masters tho. it's an MSc in Computer Science really... but focusing on Bioinformatics
07:24:33 <pascal`> I'm doing a phylogenetics project
07:24:51 <pascal`> well, "doing"
07:26:29 <upul> phylogenetics is it something to do with evolution?
07:27:46 <pascal`> yup
07:27:57 <pascal`> it's the study of relationships between organisms
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07:44:35 <Mkop2> ok, good night all
07:44:59 <Mkop2> if anyone asks where I am and why I've barely been in IRC lately, it's because I'm home for passover
07:45:16 <Mkop2> I won't have internet access at all from Wednesday night until Saturday night
07:46:23 <sdefabbiakane> alright, night
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08:41:10 <pascal`> cool, set up my first system with html forms =D
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09:22:22 <pascal`> anyone here/
09:22:24 <pascal`> ?
09:28:47 <isurundt> yes
09:29:34 <pascal`> was just wondering what version of BIRT runtime is needed for the 1.8 module
09:30:44 <pascal`> 1.5 requires birt 2.2
09:30:52 <pascal`> so i'm guessing 1.8 does aswell
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10:31:15 <openmrs_5071> hi all
10:32:38 <openmrs_5071> hi upul:
10:33:03 <upul> Hi openmrs_5071
10:34:08 <openmrs_5071> i need some help about mapping in applicationModuleContext
10:35:45 <upul> like what
10:36:33 <openmrs_5071> http://pastebin.com/m41c2a0d2 plz view my code i have mapd two jsp forms. i wanat my registrationForm to submit data and after successfull submit it return back to its ownself [ MY code is submitting the data to DB through registrationFormController but it is not returning to its ownself..?
10:37:09 <openmrs_5071> what is missing in my successView?
10:38:11 <upul> do you get any errors?
10:39:03 <openmrs_5071> yes the error is [The page "/openmrs/admin/patients/registrationForm.form" cannot be found. Check the link and try again. ]
10:41:39 <openmrs_5071> upul:
10:44:10 <upul> there's no registrationForm.form like thing in the mappings, is there/
10:48:01 <openmrs_5071> yes plz view at line 26
10:49:48 <openmrs_5071> UPUL: first time my registrationForm is over riding newPatient.form (on line 12) and it work fine but when it redirect to its own at line 26 it show the error..!
10:51:13 <upul> how about returning to admin/patients/newPatient.form
10:51:43 <openmrs_5071> i did not try... ok i try it then wil tell u plz wait
10:52:23 <upul> actually i'm going now, i'm not sure that would work, check what other modules are doing
10:52:35 <upul> i may come back online again later
10:52:43 <openmrs_5071> ok
10:52:50 <openmrs_5071> plz take your time
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12:51:33 <upul> Hi Ben
12:51:52 <bwolfe> hey upul
12:53:36 <upul> bwolfe: remember the 16 year old war? now only about 20 sq km to save, and about 70000 hostages to free
12:53:47 <upul> it is 26 years
12:54:31 <bwolfe> 70,000 hostages in only 20 sqkm ?
12:55:52 <upul> bwolfe: yes, terrorists are holding them as a human shield, and they want show that people are suffering, so UN etc. get fooled as usual
12:57:05 <upul> it's like that russian hostage thing, goverment gets blame for everything not the terrorists
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13:41:32 <pascal`> anyone designed birt reports from inside eclipse?
13:43:58 <bwolfe> jmiranda does that
13:44:15 <bwolfe> and possible Echidna
13:44:22 <bwolfe> *possibly
13:44:26 <pascal`> he dev'd the plugin
13:44:34 <pascal`> my preview tab is missing in the designer
13:45:15 <pascal`> i found http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.birt/msg20204.html , but it doesn't help much since i'm on windows
13:45:18 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/370-> (at dev.eclipse.org)
13:53:26 <bwolfe> pascal`: I've got nothin'
13:53:38 <bwolfe> pascal`: send an email to the impl list to see if anyone else had that problem
13:55:36 <pascal`> i've got some errors in my eclipse log, so i'
13:55:39 <pascal`> ll check those out first
13:56:07 <pascal`> my eclipse is kinda hacked together... so i wouldn't be surprised if it's just me doing something wrong
13:56:33 <pascal`> earlier on i just extracted four different plugins over the eclipse folder... overwriting (=
13:57:45 <bwolfe> pascal`: ha, yeah, that could be :-p
13:58:11 <bwolfe> pascal`: I know birt is pretty picky about versions of things. so check the birt page and make sure you have the exact version of eclipse, birt, birt plugin, etc
13:58:19 <bwolfe> *check the birt wiki page on openmrs
13:59:09 <pascal`> yeah
13:59:23 <pascal`> i know have have a newer version of eclipse, but the rest should be okay
13:59:31 <pascal`> and i hope eclipse is backwards compatible
14:00:17 <pascal`> also, i haven't even got to the plugin yet... still just going thru the birt tutorial
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14:19:53 <Mkop2> good morning
14:20:15 <bwolfe> and a late morning to you Mkop2
14:20:24 <Mkop2> it's 8:20
14:20:28 <Mkop2> I'm in Denver
14:20:56 <Mkop2> and in any case, I didn't wake up late, I stayed up all night
14:21:03 <Mkop2> for the second night in a row
14:24:14 <bwolfe> denver? I thought you were in philly...
14:24:18 <Mkop2> I was
14:24:27 <bwolfe> ah, teleportation
14:24:42 <Mkop2> yes
14:24:45 <Mkop2> aka transportation
14:25:10 <bwolfe> no, they are different
14:25:39 <Mkop2> I am aware of the difference in theory
14:26:33 <upul> Have you been to the Grand Canyon Ben?
14:26:59 <bwolfe> upul: I am told I was there when I was 2 years old. does that count? :-p
14:27:09 <upul> :-)
14:27:45 <upul> I went to Grand Canyon imax 3D :-)
14:27:49 <Mkop2> lol
14:28:18 <Mkop2> they have imax in Sri Lanka?
14:28:35 <upul> nope, but we have wimax
14:28:53 <Mkop2> what's that?
14:29:25 <upul> :-) wireless broad band
14:29:51 <bwolfe> nice
14:29:58 <bwolfe> what kind of speeds are you getting ?
14:30:21 <upul> also went to african adventure 3D :-)
14:30:41 <pascal`> mission to mir is aslo a cool one, upul
14:30:45 <pascal`> *also
14:31:21 <upul> i wanted to a see a space one but wasn't available, but i saw ocean 3D
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14:35:00 <upul> 3 spam in gsoc-discuss in a row
14:35:18 <r0bby> why am I not shocked
14:36:06 <upul> usually google filters them quite well
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14:37:23 <r0bby> lh is going to ban the sender.
14:37:29 <r0bby> lh or Chris Dibona
14:38:23 <upul> bwolfe: 512 is the usual home one, which is now cheap, there's 1mbps, ... , wired and wireless ones, lots of options
14:38:47 <bwolfe> very nice
14:38:52 <bwolfe> how much does that cost you per month ?
14:38:57 <bwolfe> say, the 1mbps one
14:39:20 <upul> bwolfe: let me check the price, there was an ad for the wired one
14:41:53 <Mkop2> bwolfe: when/should we expect to receive comments on our gsoc applications?
14:42:20 <bwolfe> Mkop2: before sept of 2010
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14:44:03 <Mkop2> the reason why I ask:
14:44:11 <Mkop2> the next couple days I'm not gonna have internet access
14:45:05 <Mkop2> b/c of passover
14:45:47 <Mkop2> I just want to make I don't get a comment and like not respond for three days and piss off my mentor/anyone else for that
14:46:06 <Mkop2> I did get an email from Daniel Kayiwa, the mentor of my 2nd choice project
14:46:10 <upul> bwolfe: 25 US$ per month for 1mbps , 4mbps 85$, wireless 1mpbs 5$ per 1gb
14:46:52 <upul> indian competitor came some months back, and everybody slashed prices like crazy for voice and everything
14:49:50 <jmiranda> Mkop2: who is the primary mentor on that project
14:50:55 * r0bby needs to edit his proposal :(
14:51:17 <r0bby> and i *REALLY* hope my lack of mock ups doesn't screw me over; i *HATE* doing mockups
14:52:03 <upul> i think you can edit it only once, then it gets locked until mentor do something, that's what happend last time
14:52:06 <jmiranda> Mkop2: we're going to have a conversation about reviews in the next few days. i think this weekend is going to be communication free for a lot of people.
14:52:11 <jmiranda> so i wouldn't worry too much
14:52:20 <r0bby> upul: not when your proposal is on a google doc :)
14:52:21 <jmiranda> we'll try to make up for it next week
14:52:30 <jmiranda> (monday and tuesday at least)
14:52:43 <upul> I see
14:52:44 <jmiranda> r0bby: try balsamiq
14:52:53 <r0bby> jmiranda: yeh no dice :(
14:52:53 <jmiranda> i hadn't really used it until last week
14:53:06 <jmiranda> and it was so easy
14:53:17 <r0bby> I'm gonna try and just be descriptive in my proposal wording
14:53:29 <jmiranda> vindyani: sorry i've missed you over the last few days
14:53:32 <r0bby> me and Mike Seaton spoke and ironed out my misunderstandings of the objectives
14:53:46 <jmiranda> i'll be back online more consistently this evening and hopefully for the rest of the week
14:53:51 * r0bby wants Aggregate Data Entry Tool _BAD_
14:53:52 <r0bby> :X
14:54:09 <vindyani> jmiranda, it ok
14:54:18 <jmiranda> vindyani: any specific questions for me
14:54:35 <Mkop2> jmiranda: I applied for two projects. Active lists with Burke, and FrontlineSMS with Daniel Kayiwa
14:54:42 <r0bby> heh
14:54:42 <jmiranda> vindyani: and always feel free to email me
14:54:45 <jmiranda> Mkop2: ok
14:54:55 <jmiranda> Mkop2: I'll make them aware of your absence this weekend
14:55:02 <vindyani> jmiranda, did u have any chance to go through my proposal?
14:55:19 <Mkop2> next Tuesday night/Wednesday/Thursdsay until about 7 PM I'll also be radio silence
14:55:42 <r0bby> okie dokey
14:55:44 <r0bby> im out
14:55:45 <r0bby> :)
14:55:47 <jmiranda> vindyani: no. i had some family issues to deal with. i'll be looking over them in more detail over the next few days
14:56:04 <vindyani> ok, thank you
14:56:21 <jmiranda> Mkop2: send me the times you won't be available (over email)
14:56:38 <Mkop2> which email? yahoo?
14:56:49 <vindyani> i will try to do a new ticket
14:57:02 <Mkop2> or I can just add a comment to the applications
14:57:27 <vindyani> or, do I need to look over any specific part related to Quartz project
14:59:20 <Mkop2> vindyani and jmiranda: I didn't apply for the quartz project b/c I have no JSP experience, but I had an idea about that. Maybe look at modeling it after google calendar
14:59:32 <Mkop2> i.e. the page where you add a new appointment
14:59:45 <Mkop2> it has options there for recurrence which are very user friendly
15:02:00 <vindyani> Mkop2, thanks, it would be helpful to designing the user interfaces I guess
15:03:12 <isurundt> bwolfe:were you able to look at Ticket #1240 ? i saw some of your comments there.
15:04:28 <bwolfe> isurundt: I'm trying it out now, actually. :-)
15:05:06 <dan_w> bwolfe: hi. I just put a comment on my application. reading it, it does sound a bit formal but if you have any questions you can ask here or pm if you wish. cheers
15:05:45 <isurundt> bwolfe: :) there the changeset id i have added is unique. Regarding the other two concepts; there are already 2 concepts for HIV and Malaria. So i had to only add the concept for MDR-TB.
15:07:14 <bwolfe> thanks dan_w. I'll let you know
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15:29:05 <isurundt> bwolfe: is that(ticket #1240) ok. Have i done that in the correct way ? :)
15:29:23 <bwolfe> isurundt: there was a bogus space in there. so it didn't deploy at first
15:29:41 <bwolfe> there was a asdf="asdf"/ > instead of asdf="asdf" /> :-/
15:29:45 <bwolfe> and so liquibase complained
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15:43:27 <isurundt> bwolfe:ohh. sorry. i found that issue and resolved.
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16:15:19 <isurundt> bwolfe:shall i submit the same file again?
16:36:23 <basic`> bwolfe_lunch: https://openmrs-test.osuosl.org/ -- no theme yet, but the data is there
16:50:16 <bwolfe_lunch> isurundt: well, you could have submitted it if I hadn't found it too :-)
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16:53:11 <bwolfe> basic`: very cool
16:54:12 <bwolfe> basic`: have you explored the template issue at all? Is there some way to auto-convert to the new one or will we need to rewrite it?
16:54:26 <bwolfe> basic`: and are you (osu) taking that on or should we find somebody?
16:54:27 <basic`> i havent had a chance to dig into that yet
16:54:37 <basic`> if it's a relatively easy task, i can just do it :)
16:55:16 <basic`> i'm hoping it is
16:55:26 <isurundt> bwolfe: :)
16:55:50 <Zakaria> Hi
16:56:02 <isurundt> bwolfe:i'm submitting it now
16:56:03 <Zakaria> Am kaddari zakaria a GSoC student , I sent an application concerning the Longitudinal Data Review module
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16:56:46 <isurundt> bwolfe:hope this time there will be no corrections .. :)
16:57:21 <bwolfe> hi Zakaria
16:57:27 <bwolfe> have you gotten any questions on the app ?
16:57:30 <Zakaria> Hi Sir
16:57:31 <basic`> bwolfe: if you guys have someone in mind to work on converting it though, feel free, i dont want to hold the upgrade back anymore than i have to
16:58:10 <Zakaria> bwolfe : Am kaddari zakaria a GSoC student , I sent an application concerning the Longitudinal Data Review module
16:58:34 <bwolfe> basic`: I don't know of anyone that has stepped forward
16:58:48 <bwolfe> basic`: if you can look into it and give a time estimate that would be great
16:58:50 <basic`> i can always hand it off too, if someone does
16:59:07 <bwolfe> because if its going to be a large one, then we can just upgrade without getting the template in there
17:01:14 <basic`> it may end up being easier, at least i think you can theme w/o editing the trac core
17:02:34 <bwolfe> basic`: thats good, because the current theme we use requires a hack on the core
17:02:47 <bwolfe> (moving a header definition above a call to the menu list I think)
17:02:58 <basic`> ya, gets me every time i do trac updates :)
17:08:55 <Zakaria> is there any body here who can talk to me about my GSoC application concerning the Longitudinal Data Review module ?
17:09:04 <isurundt> bwolfe: i added the new file.
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18:14:24 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1396 (task created): Patient dashboard header shows program enrollments in a hacky PIH-specific way <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1396>
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18:46:26 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7276]: Fixing #1396 (Patient dashboard header shows program enrollments in a … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7276> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7275]: 1.4.x branch: Fixing #1396 (Patient dashboard header shows program … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7275>
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19:18:29 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1396 (task closed): Patient dashboard header shows program enrollments in a hacky PIH-specific way <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1396#comment:1>
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19:39:52 <r0bby> bwolfe: that hibernate bug -- it's a show stopper
19:40:04 <r0bby> If you try and do anything with the patient dashboard
19:40:11 <r0bby> it throws a hissy fit
19:45:48 <bwolfe> yeah yeah yeah
19:45:58 <bwolfe> give nribeka a hand to fix it then. :-)
19:46:05 <r0bby> I dont know hibernate
19:46:11 <r0bby> but i *DID* bring down the demo
19:46:35 <r0bby> well not bring it down so much as you can't do much at the patient dashboard
19:47:16 <bwolfe> r0bby: the admin user can't anyway...
19:47:44 <r0bby> good point :)
19:48:01 <r0bby> Why not roll the change back?
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19:48:43 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1299 (task closed): Backport Hibernate Jar File fix to 1.4.x <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1299#comment:1>
19:49:53 <bwolfe> r0bby: I was hoping nribeka would have it fixed pretty quickly
19:51:23 <r0bby> (I don't know hibernate well enough to fix it and I'd wind up screwing up; he knows more than me)
19:53:26 <r0bby> anyways adios
19:54:07 <greendots> bye
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20:13:04 <ajuonline> r0bby:
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21:08:05 <r0bby> yeh
21:10:07 <r0bby> bwolfe: google appserver now supports java :)
21:10:19 <bwolfe> yeah, saw that today
21:10:31 <bwolfe> very intriguing!
21:13:34 <r0bby> I have an app set up :)
21:13:41 * r0bby just needs to deploy something useful :)
21:24:42 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7277]: Adding a single @should annotation in a javadoc <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7277>
21:33:06 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: standardTestDataset is always in?
21:33:13 <bwolfe> yeah
21:46:23 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: what if you load another one
21:46:31 <Keelhaul> will it conflict with the data from standard?
21:46:46 <bwolfe> overwrites it
21:46:49 <Keelhaul> oh hm, you added those new interfaces to the classes
21:48:35 <Keelhaul> FormValidator will no longer work properly now
21:48:45 <Keelhaul> since the old field name was retiredReason, now it's retireReason
21:56:45 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1389 (task closed): ObsValidator should reject obsDatetime == null <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1389#comment:3> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7279]: Adding obsDatetime check to ObsValidator - #1389 Author: Keelhaul <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7279> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1110 (defect closed): Cohort Builder Program on or After Date Yields Unexpected Results <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1110#comment:1> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7278]: Added BaseOpenmrsData and BaseOpenmrsMetadata markers to some objects in … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7278>
22:00:07 <r0bby> /jj/jj
22:00:08 <r0bby> er
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22:08:36 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: the base abstract classes really clean up the classes, nice
22:08:45 <Keelhaul> but why the setId/getId methods?
22:11:03 <bwolfe> so there is a common id
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22:31:22 <Mkop2> jmiranda: you there?
22:43:12 <jmiranda> Mkop2: what's up?
22:43:51 <Mkop2> you said before I should email you what times I won't be available, but you didn't respond when i asked which email address to send to, or whether I should just post it as a comment on the applications
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22:54:19 <Mkop2> lol at his leave message
22:55:21 <Mkop2> jmiranda: I'm leaving it as a comment on the applications. Do you want it in your inbox as well?
22:58:54 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7280]: Fixing #1375 (org.hibernate.NonUniqueObjectException caused by … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7280>
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23:17:18 <andrewaclt> Is the trunk version of 1.4 stable?
23:18:25 <Keelhaul> what do you mean by stable
23:19:05 <Keelhaul> fixes in 1.5 usually get backported to 1.4
23:19:13 <Keelhaul> so i'd say it's no more or less stable than trunk
23:19:47 <andrewaclt> okay
23:21:01 <Keelhaul> trunk has some new branches merged into it that might or might not reveal some new problems
23:24:12 <andrewaclt> so 1.4 should be more stable than 1.34?
23:24:21 <Keelhaul> dunno
23:24:28 <Keelhaul> critical bugs usually get backported
23:24:35 <Keelhaul> the newer versions have new features
23:24:44 <Keelhaul> some code is different
23:24:50 <andrewaclt> Yeah, what about busted old features that just don't work?
23:24:51 <Keelhaul> could be more, could be less stable
23:24:52 <Keelhaul> heh
23:24:56 <Keelhaul> like what
23:25:43 <andrewaclt> Managing a Drug order -> Place and order for a patient, it asks for an "RElated Encouter"
23:25:56 <Keelhaul> oh yea
23:25:58 <andrewaclt> Now I have an encounter associated with a patient
23:26:02 <Keelhaul> that form has been fixed a bit lately
23:26:06 <Keelhaul> only in trunk, i think
23:26:08 <andrewaclt> and it just says "Fix all errors"
23:26:29 <Keelhaul> yea, i didnt know how the hell i'm supposed to used that form before the fix
23:26:35 <Keelhaul> not sure whether it's fixed in 1.4 too
23:26:40 <Keelhaul> -d
23:26:46 <andrewaclt> It's not fixed in 1.4
23:29:24 <andrewaclt> sadly.
23:29:29 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1375 (defect closed): org.hibernate.NonUniqueObjectException caused by PatientIdentifierValidator <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1375#comment:6> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7281]: 1.4.x branch: Fixing #1375 (org.hibernate.NonUniqueObjectException caused … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7281>
23:31:41 <Keelhaul> andrewaclt: are you gsoc?
23:32:01 <Keelhaul> i'm sure all gsoc project will be developed for trunk anyway
23:32:54 <andrewaclt> No, I'm not gsoc :)
23:33:08 <andrewaclt> Unless it's not too late and you know of a project that needs help? :)
23:33:37 <Keelhaul> i'm sure a lot of projects need help =P
23:33:52 <andrewaclt> I mean, openmrs projects :)
23:33:58 <Keelhaul> yea
23:34:16 <Keelhaul> no one stops you from helping out with non-gsoc projects
23:34:21 <andrewaclt> I don't know dojo, hibernate or spring so I feel my hands are kinda tied
23:34:21 <Keelhaul> and there are also a bunch of tickets
23:34:36 <Keelhaul> i dont know dojo either =/
23:34:58 <andrewaclt> Yeah I'm currently jobless
23:35:12 <andrewaclt> for the summer
23:35:52 <Keelhaul> andrewaclt: i added an intro ticket yesterday, i'd appreciate if someone solved it =P
23:36:52 <andrewaclt> Is there a way to track the administration of drugs? I know you can order a drug but can see who administered the dosage and the time, etc?
23:37:08 <andrewaclt> Keelhaul: link?
23:37:56 <r0bby> andrewaclt: i didn't know any of those when i started
23:38:43 <andrewaclt> GSoC 2009 is passed, interesting.
23:42:07 <Keelhaul> !ticket 1393
23:42:07 <OpenMRSBot> Keelhaul: Ticket #1393: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1393
23:43:20 <r0bby> andrewaclt: don't be afraid to jump in :)
23:43:27 <r0bby> there are some interesting non-soc projects
23:46:30 <andrewaclt> Can you pull information regardint the administration of drugs after you've placed an order?
23:47:02 <Keelhaul> pull?
23:47:14 <Keelhaul> well all you can do is add instructions
23:47:17 <Keelhaul> which is just text
23:47:36 <Keelhaul> and you have to do it after the actual prescription
23:48:11 <andrewaclt> Well, say I'm taking care of a patient in a bed in the clinic, can I record that I actually gave her the medicine at X date according to her prescription?
23:48:56 <Keelhaul> oh
23:49:13 <Keelhaul> i'm sure drug administration can be expressed by obs if you define the appropriate concepts..
23:49:19 <Keelhaul> but i dont think orders can express that
23:50:13 <andrewaclt> :/
23:50:18 <andrewaclt> What exactly is a concept?
23:50:41 <Keelhaul> any coded words used in the system
23:50:47 <andrewaclt> codeD?
23:50:49 <andrewaclt> coded?
23:50:51 <Keelhaul> terms
23:50:53 <Keelhaul> yea
23:51:02 <Keelhaul> like a drug ingredient
23:51:09 <Keelhaul> or a disease name
23:51:14 <Keelhaul> or test name
23:51:19 <Keelhaul> or even words like yes or n o
23:51:24 <Keelhaul> check the dictionary
23:51:26 <andrewaclt> So, you'd add a concept like...?
23:51:59 <Keelhaul> a concept named "DRUG ADMINISTERED" with other concepts as coded answers
23:52:05 <Keelhaul> and the answer ocncepts would be the actual drugs
23:52:08 <Keelhaul> although
23:52:10 <Keelhaul> the problem is
23:52:30 <Keelhaul> the way drugs are going to be redesigned in the near(?) future, concepts will only represent the ingredients
23:52:42 <Keelhaul> the actual products will be defined in the 'drug' table
23:53:08 <andrewaclt> oh ok
23:53:09 <Keelhaul> and then have one or more ingredients mapped to them
23:53:13 <Keelhaul> but thats not the case yet
23:53:19 <andrewaclt> What kind of health standards is openmrs following?
23:53:19 <Keelhaul> the obs table has an order field though
23:53:31 <Keelhaul> maybe that can be used to express administering?
23:53:31 <Keelhaul> dunno
23:53:45 <Keelhaul> health standards as in what
23:53:51 <Keelhaul> regulations? formats?
23:53:59 <andrewaclt> As in government and non-profits say this is the best practices to do things
23:54:07 <Keelhaul> oh
23:54:10 <Keelhaul> hm
23:54:19 <Keelhaul> theres a deployment in los angeles
23:54:29 <Keelhaul> that would mean they have to be HIPAA compliant, i guess
23:54:32 <andrewaclt> really?
23:55:34 <Keelhaul> well thats what is to be assumed
23:55:39 <Keelhaul> i dont know for sure
23:56:06 <Keelhaul> i dont think i've ever talked to the people running that one
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