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<Mkop2> 16 days to the announcement....
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<Keelhaul> of what
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<Keelhaul> accepted applicants?
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<Keelhaul> i thought this takes a few days lol
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<Mkop2> maybe openmrs will privately let people know earlier, but google only announces it on the 20th
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<Mkop2> yesterday there were 26 ppl in here, now there's 13
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<Mkop2> well, 24/11 if you don't count the bot and Echidna
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<Mkop2> so it's less than half right now
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<Keelhaul> yesterday was the deadline
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<Keelhaul> so people asked questions
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<Mkop2> yep
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<Keelhaul> notice how none of the ops hasnt been here all day
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<Keelhaul> usually bwolfe comes here almost every day, but none of the other ops
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<Keelhaul> jmiranda and bmckown from time to time
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<Mkop2> I haven't noticed anything about all day, b/c I wasn't on the computer all day
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<Mkop2> I am Jewish, and keep sabbath pretty strictly
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<Keelhaul> i noticed from your facebook profile
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<Keelhaul> are you not allowed?
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<Keelhaul> yea
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<Mkop2> no computer from Friday sunset until saturday sunset
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<Keelhaul> no electricity whatsoever?
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<Mkop2> no manipulating electricity
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<Mkop2> so whatever lights we have on from before, stay on
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<Keelhaul> hah
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<Mkop2> unless you have them on a timer or somethign
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<Keelhaul> can you ask someone else to do it?
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<Mkop2> in certain circumstances
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<Mkop2> like, normally you can't, but if there's a pressing need, then certain things you can ask
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<Mkop2> like if the lights are off in the synagogue or something, and a couple hundred people wouldn't be able to pray b/c of that, you can ask
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<Keelhaul> how about calling 911
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<Mkop2> if there's a serious medical need, then you can do whatever you need with no hesitation
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<Keelhaul> what about
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<Keelhaul> gsoc deadline, which you can only meet if coding on a saturday =P
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<Mkop2> !seen bwolfe
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<Mkop2> whoa
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<Mkop2> something is wrong with this, but I'm not sure what: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/GoogleOpenSourceBlog/~3/4Ke24d3Rizo/drupalcon-dc.html
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<Keelhaul> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Math_55
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<Mkop2> oh wow
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<r0bby> ahh
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<r0bby> Dmitri
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<r0bby> Mkop2: Dmitri is insanely smart
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<Mkop2> Keelhaul: I'd rather he be interested in CMS at 13 than in something like kernels
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<Mkop2> I don't know about you guys, but I would feel very weird being mentored by a 13 year old
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<Keelhaul> but i wasnt interested in any computing concepts or anything
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<Keelhaul> more like doom and day of the tentacle =)
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<Mkop2> yeah, I started doing programming at 13
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<Mkop2> bought with money that I got for bar mitzvah gifts
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<Mkop2> thus, at exactly 13
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<Mkop2> I also learned from Sam's C in 21 days
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<Keelhaul> at 13?
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<Keelhaul> damn
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<Mkop2> I didn't make it through the whole books
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<Keelhaul> after that basic class in 7th grade, which was fun
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<Mkop2> i got through about day 10 in each of them
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<Mkop2> great books
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<Mkop2> at some point I should go through the rest of one of them
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<Mkop2> Day 10 was structs
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<r0bby> Mkop2: I woulda been honored to be mentored by a 13 year old
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<Keelhaul> why
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<Keelhaul> having someone half your age know twice as much as you is not an honor
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<Mkop2> bwolfe: re ticket 1044, was the renaming not discussed when the ticket was created?
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<r0bby> Keelhaul: true
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<Mkop2> roommate's reaction to dmitry: "oh crap, what am I doing with my life?"
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<Mkop2> nribeka, you need to get more reliable internet. I feel sorry for you :-)
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<bwolfe> Mkop2: not discussed enough
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<Mkop2> oh, ok
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: because i cant find a way to test a validator in particular
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<Keelhaul> =/
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<Mkop2> http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/intercal/intercal.txt
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<Mkop2> why?
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<Mkop2> I've gone to sleep at 5 some nights recently
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<r0bby> Well, I had fallen asleep at 6something last night; then woke up @ 1something in the morning
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<Mkop2> oh
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<r0bby> there is an unused import for ArrayList in the String class code
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<r0bby> I finally get to use this oldddddd mysql book i bought YEARS ago
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<Mkop2> hi, nribeka
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<nribeka> yo Mkop2
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<r0bby> is comcast that shitty?
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<r0bby> or is it flakey wifi?
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<Mkop2> no, it's his pitt connection
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<r0bby> heh
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<nribeka> why?
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<Mkop2> you bounce in and out a lot
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<nribeka> really?
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<nribeka> sick?
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<nribeka> i left the comp on this afternoon
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<Mkop2> sick?
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<Mkop2> feel better!
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<nribeka> i went to my friend place
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<Mkop2> were you on wifi?
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<nribeka> yes
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<nribeka> haha
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<nribeka> how's the apps Mkop2?
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<Mkop2> submitted
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<r0bby> nribeka you applied right?!!?!!
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<nribeka> when is the announcement btw?
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<nribeka> no
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<r0bby> 20 April
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<Mkop2> I ended up applying for 2
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<nribeka> i think i said it many times
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<Mkop2> r0bby: which project did you apply for? are you saying now?
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<nribeka> i'm not applying :P
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<r0bby> Mkop2: Aggregate Data Entry tool
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<Mkop2> I don't know of anyone else who applied for that
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<r0bby> me neither
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<r0bby> Yes :)
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<nribeka> which proeject are you applying Mkop2?
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<Mkop2> and probably, any application that wasn't accompanied by at least some IRC presence is not a quality app
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<r0bby> Mkop2: I spoke w/ Mike Seaton bout it the other day :)
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<Mkop2> I applied for active lists, and put together a last hour app for frontlinesms
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<r0bby> My proposal missed the target on the objectives but we ironed out the problems in a skype im session :)
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<r0bby> I also may have convinced him to let me do it in groovy
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<Mkop2> what was he envisioning it would be in?
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<r0bby> Java.
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<r0bby> I have a strong enough grasp on the language that i'm ok
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<r0bby> my current method to get a form by id
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<r0bby> nribeka: why didn't you apply!??!?!?!
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<r0bby> there was another patient matching project!
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<Mkop2> r0bby: check PM
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<nribeka> it would be troublesome with the legal stuff
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<nribeka> the work authorization is kinda difficult
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<Mkop2> are you gonna be in the US for the summer?
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<nribeka> yes i think so
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<Mkop2> it's somewhat ironic that since you're in the US, you're not able to work for a US company
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<Mkop2> if you were elsewhere, you'd be able to work for the US company
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<Mkop2> hmm
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<Mkop2> allocations are based on proportion of applications
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<Mkop2> gsoc got 5500, openmrs got ~100
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<Mkop2> so that means that openmrs should get close to 20 allocations
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<Mkop2> except for the cap of number of mentors
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<nribeka> how do you know we got 100 apps Mkop2?
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<nribeka> :D
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<Mkop2> ben said so
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<nribeka> ooo ic ic
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<nribeka> cool then
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<r0bby> i'm a shoe-in
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<r0bby> i hope :)
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<nribeka> yeah, it's ironic. the first thing that was asked to me in an interview is are you a holder of green card or US citizen. when i say no, i can tell that they just want to end the interview right away
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<nribeka> lol
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<Mkop2> but I see your point
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<nribeka> ooo where are you from originally Mkop2?
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<Mkop2> South Africa
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<nribeka> well, that's been always the case with my interview :D
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<nribeka> ooo ic ic Mkop2
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<nribeka> openmrs folks went to SA last year i think
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<Mkop2> yep
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<nribeka> i wish i could go there next year lol
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<nribeka> i wanna watch fifa world cup :D
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<Mkop2> lol
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<ajay_chhatwal> i have applied for two projects...when can i expect to reviews/comments ?
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<Mkop2> ajay_chhatwal: there are no mentors in here now. Try asking in the morning USA time
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<ajay_chhatwal> ok...thanks
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<r0bby> oh wow
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<r0bby> Mkop2: if you ever code in groovy -- the groovy truth is such an awesome thing
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<r0bby> if(list) will catch: null and empty lists :)
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<Mkop2> r0bby: still up? :-P
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<Mkop2> python has that also
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<r0bby> yeh just coded the dao/service class for groovy
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<r0bby> forms
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<Mkop2> cool
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<r0bby> I dont define getters/setters either :)
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7263]: groovyforms: commiting a truckload of things i've written over the past ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7263>
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<r0bby> sweet leaping jesu
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<pv78> hi all
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<Agnor> hi
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<Mkop2> hi, Agnor
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<Mkop2> hmm
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<Mkop2> I think I just sent grep into an infinite loop
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<Mkop2> grep 'a pattern' * > bla.txt, and I think it kept going through bla.txt (which was part of *) grepping itself into itself
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<pv78> hi all
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<pv78> hi ajitlodhi:
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<Mkop2> hi, pv78
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<pv78> Mkop2: i am dealing with two tables in my own module through my own service class. but it works fine with one table and show error with 2nd table
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<Mkop2> I have zero experience with this kind of stuff
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<pv78> while i am using createCriteria()
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<pv78> ok..!
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<Mkop2> if you show me the errors I *might* have some kind of idea, but it's probably unlikely
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<Mkop2> what's the error?
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<Mkop2> openmrs.pastebin.net
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<pv78> org.hibernate.exception.SQLGrammarException Could not execute qury
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<Mkop2> http://openmrs.pastebin.com/ I meant
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<Mkop2> can you paste the entire stack trace, and/or the relevant code? a single exception like that isn't much help
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<pv78> http://openmrs.pastebin.com/m60659565
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<Mkop2> idk
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<Mkop2> could I see some code?
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<pv78> http://openmrs.pastebin.com/m3c24447
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<Mkop2> which part of the code is giving that problem?
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<pv78> plz consider follwing line of code : 21,21,42, 181 , 219
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<Mkop2> you have to understand, it's very difficult for me to try to debug code that I've never seen, don't know how it works or what it's supposed to do, without some more helpful info from you
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<greendots> Hi
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<Mkop2> hi, greendots
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<pv78> functions at line 249 and 224 acts in same manner but with separate tables... line 249 function work of while 224 shows error
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<Mkop2> pv78: I'm sorry, but I can't/don't have time to figure this out. Sorry
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<Mkop2> part of writing code is debugging
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<Mkop2> as you are the one who knows what the code is and how it works, you can't just have someone else do the debugging for you
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<Mkop2> try to narrow it down to a more specific issue
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<pv78> it ok Mkop2 : thanx for ur precious time :)
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<pv78> yea
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<Mkop2> then you can either ask a more directed question here, or go somewhere else where you might be able to get other people to help
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<pv78> right..!
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<Mkop2> hey, nribeka!
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<nribeka> ola Mkop2
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<nribeka> :D
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<Mkop2> wow, this place is QUIET today
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<greendots> does any one know how many projects/slots openMRS will be allowed for gsoc?
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<r0bby> greendots: depends
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<r0bby> 14 slots
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<r0bby> approx
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<r0bby> though can't say for certain
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<r0bby> google is budgeting this year
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<Mkop2> r0bby / greendots: according to my calculations, we shouldn't be limited by google slots
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<Mkop2> they're awarded basically in proportion to the number of applications
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<Mkop2> gsoc in total got ~5500, and openmrs got ~100
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<Mkop2> since there's 1000 slots, that means openmrs would get 20
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<Mkop2> our cap is the number of mentors
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<greendots> 5500 applications or students?
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<r0bby> applicants
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<r0bby> 1000 cap of slots
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<r0bby> cap of 1000 slots rather
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<r0bby> last year, soc had 1,125 students like i said the other day; 80% success rate
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<greendots> then each applicant has up to 20 applications
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<Mkop2> 5500 applications, and 3000 something students
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<r0bby> hrm i didn't think of that one
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<greendots> ah good :)
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<Mkop2> I'm remembering the number as being something like 3800 students, but I'm not sure
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<r0bby> lh will post stats soon
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<Mkop2> lh already posted the stats I said
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<Mkop2> well, not publically, but they were announced in #gsoc
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<r0bby> Mkop2: blog or it did n't happen :)
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<Mkop2> (3:00:10 PM) SRabbelier: The final number is 5887
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<Mkop2> the blog post is coming on Monday
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<r0bby> hah :)
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<Mkop2> (3:00:47 PM) SRabbelier: 5887 is the final count
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<Mkop2> (3:01:20 PM) SRabbelier: 3497 students applied intotal
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<Mkop2> (3:03:06 PM) lh: folks, i am asking SRabbelier for the final numbers for you but if y'all could be nice and not blog all this until we do our official monday announcement, that'd be plain old grand
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<r0bby> hah
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<Mkop2> (3:11:34 PM) SRabbelier: 5860 students in total btw
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<Mkop2> SRabbelier is the head guy of melange or something, btw
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<r0bby> I thought Pawal was
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<r0bby> he's a developer
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<r0bby> Pawal is the lead
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<Mkop2> idk
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<Mkop2> SRabbelier is something big
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<r0bby> he has access to statistics.
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