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<ajuonline> flyankur: did you apply?
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<flyankur> ajuonline: yea
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<flyankur> ajuonline: but i applied for drupal
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<ajuonline> flyankur: so why were you whining :P
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<ajuonline> oh drupal sucks! :P
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<ajuonline> not openmrs?
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<flyankur> i got a cool cool idea, out of my own idea, I broke it into 2. Submitted the edited first, and when i finshed second.. i was sucking 40 seconds late :(
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<flyankur> ajuonline: nope. I thought of contributing to openmrs aside of gsoc.
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<ajuonline> great :) hfoss ftw!
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<flyankur> ajuonline: guess what, i was hit with that idea , just 13 minutes to deadline.
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<flyankur> ajuonline: did you submitted for openmrs?
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<ajuonline> openmrs - sorry i couldnt apply this year. but you know I talk about you and support you :)
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<ajuonline> flyankur: no. but i encouraged my friends who know related technologies to apply for it.
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<ajuonline> one is k_nishant1 other is deepakverma
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<flyankur> ajuonline : so did you apply for ny ?
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<ajuonline> flyankur: applied to Sahana only
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<flyankur> ajuonline : cool
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<ajuonline> flyankur: any more peeps apply from your college?
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<flyankur> ajuonline: as far as i know, only 2 more. They need more wisdom :) , me too .. long way to go..
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<tarvid> I may get a chance to talk to people from the local Free Clinic tomorrow in Galax, VA
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<tarvid> Trying to guess LOE for deployment
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<tarvid> Have a rough outline
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<tarvid> http://pastebin.ca/1381390
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<tarvid> How much detail can I find on the web?
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<Keelhaul> depending on your needs, setting up concepts/forms/reports can take a while
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<tarvid> I gathered that.
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<tarvid> The whole project would need a grant.
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<tarvid> Trying to estimate what it would take to please the stakeholders
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<Keelhaul> =)
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<Keelhaul> or bmckown
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<Keelhaul> he should know a bit too
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<bmckown> :-)
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<Keelhaul> he does support for a deployment
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<Keelhaul> [02:15:18] <tarvid> I may get a chance to talk to people from the local Free Clinic tomorrow in Galax, VA
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<Keelhaul> [02:15:30] <tarvid> Trying to guess LOE for deployment
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<Keelhaul> [02:15:42] <tarvid> Have a rough outline
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<Keelhaul> [02:17:08] <tarvid> http://pastebin.ca/1381390
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<Keelhaul> [02:19:49] <tarvid> How much detail can I find on the web?
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<tarvid> Made it through Mirrormed, estimated 50 hours, that wasn't enough
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<bmckown> Eh... What is the question?
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<bmckown> See the link but pls fill me in
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<tarvid> Trying to guess LOE for a grant application
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<tarvid> hoping to find more detail and models to adapt
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<tarvid> found hiv/aids models
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<tarvid> they would help
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<bmckown> LOE? Sorry?
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<tarvid> Level of Effort. Man hours assuming well meaning but inexperienced mortals
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<tarvid> I have a seconds client who is facing an upgrade of elemewntalclinic
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<bmckown> Ok. Hehe. Thee is a wiki link that may help ....
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<tarvid> Not even the database will upgrade easily
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<bmckown> What database do they want to upgrade?
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<bmckown> I mean a novice should not upgrade 1.3 to 1.5 in production but is that what you mean?
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<tarvid> elementalclinic older version to newer
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<tarvid> but her clinical mentor doesn't like the hosted solution
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<tarvid> maybe just the $175/month
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<tarvid> is this the wiki page? http://openmrs.org/wiki/OpenMRS_Implementation_Survey
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/365f> (at openmrs.org)
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<bmckown> I would give 1 week for upgrade from 1.3 to 1.5 for production. That includes testing and upgrading modules. That's what I'm giving myself to do the same for Kenya nut were talking 40million PBS
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<bmckown> Damn auto corretion
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<Keelhaul> bmckown: on the other hand, how many 1.5 production deployments are there?
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<bmckown> Obs not PBS
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<bmckown> I dunno
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<tarvid> I am confusing you
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<bmckown> Maybe so
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<tarvid> The database upgrade is for elementalclinic
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<bmckown> What is elementalclinic?
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<tarvid> Thought is might be well to focus on OpenMRS. I see other opportunities
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<tarvid> Yet another open source MRS
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<Keelhaul> what's used right now?
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<tarvid> At the counselors office
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<bwolfe> tarvid: these are the only guys I know of that do openmrs installs commercially: http://openemrhq.com/blog/?p=12
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<bmckown> Sorry I'm on my phone. Not good at typing on my pahone
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<tarvid> The free clinic has ill organized paper records
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<bmckown> Hmm. Where do u want the install?
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<tarvid> The commercial link will serve well.
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<tarvid> Galax
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<tarvid> VA
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<bmckown> Wow. Virginia, USA ?
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<bwolfe> which group are you with tarvid ? there is another install somewhere in virgina that I've heard of
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<tarvid> Appalachia, not all that different from the third world
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<bmckown> Hmm. Could maybe email implementers list to ask them.
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<tarvid> I am independent. I do Drupal and microeconomics in International Health
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<bmckown> !community
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<tarvid> One twist is that some of the surveys I work with could be done with OpenMRS
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<bmckown> When u need the bot! ...
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<bmckown> Yea I meant the imlpementers mailing list
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<bmckown> For openmrs may be of help here
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<Keelhaul> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Community
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<bmckown> Thanks Keelhaul
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<Keelhaul> !learn community http://openmrs.org/wiki/Community
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<OpenMRSBot> Keelhaul: Invalid arguments for learn.
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<Keelhaul> damn
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<Keelhaul> dunno how ot use it =/
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<bmckown> Hmm I thought it worked that way?
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<tarvid> Can one avoid MS Infopath with something like Jasper Reports
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<Keelhaul> !learn "community" http://openmrs.org/wiki/Community
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<Keelhaul> tarvid: there is a nice html form entry module now
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<Keelhaul> there's no wysiwyg designer yet
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<bmckown> Ooh. Now that is a good question tarvid
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<Keelhaul> someone will make one during gsoc now =)
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<Keelhaul> hopefully
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<bmckown> Most all still depedent on infopath
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<Keelhaul> i think htmlformentry doesnt support complex obs yet
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<Agnor> back
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<bmckown> Aaasaaaaaaaaah
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<tarvid> infopath doesn't sound far from Jasper
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<bmckown> Stupid phone
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<tarvid> There might even be something in Netbeans
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<bmckown> We've never tried infopath with xomplex obs yet
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: remember you sent me a form you used somewhere, one with three pages? can you send it to me again?
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<tarvid> Infopath isn't all that expensive
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<tarvid> I'm on Xp right now and I'll survice until I get back to my workstation
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<Keelhaul> 200 dollars per machine
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<Keelhaul> unless there're volume licenses
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<bmckown> Well .... Yea the volume stuff
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<tarvid> I haven't spent $200 on software over the past 5 years
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<bmckown> Were trying for alternatives
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<tarvid> I'll look around.
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<tarvid> Actually I have enough to chew on for a few hours.
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<bmckown> HTML formentry sounds like it may be good but not sure if used yet
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<tarvid> I thank you all
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<bmckown> Thank you tarvid for inquiring
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<bmckown> First thing I'm gonna do when I jailbreak this phone is get rid of the silly colloquy message when I leave a chat
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<bmckown> Forwarning cause I have to leave
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<Keelhaul> lol
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<bmckown> Thanks for helping me with the bot Keelhaul
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<Keelhaul> lol but i didnt
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<Keelhaul> i dont know how to make it learn things =/
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<bmckown> Oh well that helped!!!
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<bmckown> Thx
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<Keelhaul> heh np
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<ajitlodhi> hi
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<k_nishant> hello
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<k_nishant> any knowledge of evaluation part
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<shyamheartbreakk> hey Burke Mamlin are u here?
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<shyamheartbreakk> hey i have applied for gsoc.. I was asked about a proposed plan but just now got to know it how do i pass the info now?
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<shyamheartbreakk> am new to gsoc..thanks for ur help
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<k_nishant> shyamheartbreakk: wat happen
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<shyamheartbreakk> i was asked about a detailed plan but how do i let the entor know that?
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<k_nishant> well have u submitted any link
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<shyamheartbreakk> i don get you
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<shyamheartbreakk> I am askin if there is any way by which i could pass the info to mentor
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<nribeka> you could try the dev list shyamheartbreakk
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<shyamheartbreakk> dev list?
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<shyamheartbreakk> where?
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<k_nishant> well I'm telin have u posted any additional info link
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<k_nishant> where u can edit and update it
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<shyamheartbreakk> nope i just submittd my proposal:(
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<k_nishant> uff den I can explain
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<shyamheartbreakk> hmm thnks anyway:)
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<shyamheartbreakk> apr 2nd
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<k_nishant> Agnor: hello
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<Agnor> hi
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<k_nishant> have u recieved any comments
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<Agnor> not yet
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<k_nishant> ok
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<k_nishant> who is your mentor
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<Agnor> I've applied to three projects, so there are various mentors
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<k_nishant> nice
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<Agnor> what projects have you applied for?
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<deepakverma1> K_nishant hello
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<k_nishant> Agnor: I applied for Role based home page
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<k_nishant> deepakverma1: hello
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<Agnor> hi deepakverma1
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<deepakverma1> hi K_nishat
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<Agnor> I've applied for that one too, and also Active Lists and WYSIWYG Form Designer
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<deepakverma1> K_nishant you have applied for Role base home page
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<deepakverma1> nice
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<k_nishant> Agnor: So u haven't recieved any comments from any mentors
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<Agnor> no I haven't
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<Agnor> there should be a lot of applications, so I think they'll take a while
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<k_nishant> Agnor: gud thought
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<k_nishant> Agnor: Is this your first time
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<Agnor> yes
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<k_nishant> or applied earlier too
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<k_nishant> hmm
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<k_nishant> so you are from
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<Agnor> Portugal
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<k_nishant> ok me from INDIA
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<Agnor> I've only heard about GSOC on Wednesday, so my application isn't very good :(
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<pv78> hi all
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<Agnor> pv78: hi
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<k_nishant> but its ur hard labour that u applied for three
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<pv78> hi agnor
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<Agnor> well, they are mostly copy-paste, mainly the information about myself
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<Agnor> I've only changed project specific information
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<Agnor> they're not good applications, but better than nothing
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<pv78> Hi nribeka : i have created a module in openmrs which save and retrieve data from my table. now i have created another table and code Service for that now plz guide me how i map that (new) service class in moduleApplicationContext...!
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<andrewaclt> Caused by: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space This means something isn't being taken care of by the GC?
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<andrewaclt> class loader apprently.
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<nribeka> pv78 are u still here?
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<nribeka> sorry i was just finish watching liverpool vs fulham
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<nribeka> :D
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<andrewaclt> poor fulham
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<nribeka> did you watch it too andrewaclt?
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<nribeka> where are you right now?
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<andrewaclt> in my apartment?
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<andrewaclt> Yeah, I watched it.
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<nribeka> i'm a big fans of liverpool. so it's good for me :D
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<nribeka> lol
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<andrewaclt> meh
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<andrewaclt> so is my roommate
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<andrewaclt> ManU is two games down, so no worries :)
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<nribeka> man u is going down
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<nribeka> haha hope villa will beat them bad tomorrow
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<andrewaclt> lol
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<nribeka> barcelona time :D
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<andrewaclt> Can you store hospital bed assignements using openmrs?
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<nribeka> andrewaclt: i think Keelhaul is creating something like that
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<nribeka> if i remember it correctly
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<Echidna> yea
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<andrewaclt> oh okay
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<Echidna> actually it is created
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<Echidna> just waitingon the academia to do their part
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<Echidna> then they can be released
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<andrewaclt> What about patient allegery information? I couldn't find any any information, except a GSoC project, so I'm assuming it's not implemeneted yet?
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<andrewaclt> *allgery
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<andrewaclt> *allegry heh
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<andrewaclt> you get the idea
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<andrewaclt> *allergy
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<sdefabbiakane> there's not a well-established way of doing it, no
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<Agnor> isn't there a concept named Allergy?
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<sdefabbiakane> there are a few concepts for allergies to medicine, yes
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<andrewaclt> Is there docuementation somewhere defining concepts, observations, etc?
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<Agnor> yes
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<Agnor> wait a minut
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<Agnor> http://openmrs.org/wiki/OpenMRS_Data_Model_Documentation
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/329:> (at openmrs.org)
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<andrewaclt> thanks
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<Agnor> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Concept_Dictionary_Guidelines
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<Echidna> andrewaclt: no allergy information, no
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<Echidna> i'm actually waiting on someone to implement something =)
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<Echidna> a lot of people applied to active lists, it seems
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<Echidna> to it looks promising
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<Echidna> for*
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<Echidna> so*
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<sdefabbiakane> how many is a lot?
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<Echidna> dunno
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<Echidna> i just heard most people talking about that in here before applications were submitted
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<sdefabbiakane> oh, ok
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<Echidna> but then again, they got about 100 applications, bwolfe said
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<Echidna> and i'm sure not all of the applicants came through here
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<Echidna> bbl
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<k_nishant1> any one knows how amny application posted last GSOC
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<k_nishant1> this is a great achievement for the OPEN MRS team
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