IRC Chat : 2009-04-04 - OpenMRS

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00:05:11 <ajuonline> flyankur: did you apply?
00:05:31 <flyankur> ajuonline: yea
00:05:49 <flyankur> ajuonline: but i applied for drupal
00:05:49 <ajuonline> flyankur: so why were you whining :P
00:06:00 <ajuonline> oh drupal sucks! :P
00:06:16 <ajuonline> not openmrs?
00:06:45 <flyankur> i got a cool cool idea, out of my own idea, I broke it into 2. Submitted the edited first, and when i finshed second.. i was sucking 40 seconds late :(
00:07:08 <flyankur> ajuonline: nope. I thought of contributing to openmrs aside of gsoc.
00:07:30 <ajuonline> great :) hfoss ftw!
00:07:44 <flyankur> ajuonline: guess what, i was hit with that idea , just 13 minutes to deadline.
00:08:01 <flyankur> ajuonline: did you submitted for openmrs?
00:08:02 <ajuonline> openmrs - sorry i couldnt apply this year. but you know I talk about you and support you :)
00:08:34 <ajuonline> flyankur: no. but i encouraged my friends who know related technologies to apply for it.
00:08:56 <ajuonline> one is k_nishant1 other is deepakverma
00:09:04 * ajuonline whacks k_nishant1
00:09:13 <flyankur> ajuonline : so did you apply for ny ?
00:09:14 <ajuonline> flyankur: applied to Sahana only
00:09:36 <flyankur> ajuonline : cool
00:09:36 * ajuonline whacks r0bby as well
00:11:24 <ajuonline> flyankur: any more peeps apply from your college?
00:13:29 * ajuonline sleeps
00:14:38 <flyankur> ajuonline: as far as i know, only 2 more. They need more wisdom :) , me too .. long way to go..
00:15:23 <tarvid> I may get a chance to talk to people from the local Free Clinic tomorrow in Galax, VA
00:15:34 <tarvid> Trying to guess LOE for deployment
00:15:47 <tarvid> Have a rough outline
00:17:12 <tarvid> http://pastebin.ca/1381390
00:19:53 <tarvid> How much detail can I find on the web?
00:23:04 <Keelhaul> depending on your needs, setting up concepts/forms/reports can take a while
00:24:50 <tarvid> I gathered that.
00:25:07 <tarvid> The whole project would need a grant.
00:25:34 <tarvid> Trying to estimate what it would take to please the stakeholders
00:25:38 <Keelhaul> =)
00:25:46 <Keelhaul> i'm sure bwolfe could tell you a bit if he was there =/
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00:27:01 <Keelhaul> or bmckown
00:27:10 <Keelhaul> he should know a bit too
00:27:18 <bmckown> :-)
00:27:19 <Keelhaul> he does support for a deployment
00:27:32 <Keelhaul> [02:15:18] <tarvid> I may get a chance to talk to people from the local Free Clinic tomorrow in Galax, VA
00:27:32 <Keelhaul> [02:15:30] <tarvid> Trying to guess LOE for deployment
00:27:32 <Keelhaul> [02:15:42] <tarvid> Have a rough outline
00:27:32 <Keelhaul> [02:17:08] <tarvid> http://pastebin.ca/1381390
00:27:32 <Keelhaul> [02:19:49] <tarvid> How much detail can I find on the web?
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00:28:37 <tarvid> Made it through Mirrormed, estimated 50 hours, that wasn't enough
00:29:14 <bmckown> Eh... What is the question?
00:29:41 <bmckown> See the link but pls fill me in
00:30:06 <tarvid> Trying to guess LOE for a grant application
00:30:25 <tarvid> hoping to find more detail and models to adapt
00:30:34 <tarvid> found hiv/aids models
00:30:38 <tarvid> they would help
00:31:04 <bmckown> LOE? Sorry?
00:31:42 <tarvid> Level of Effort. Man hours assuming well meaning but inexperienced mortals
00:32:27 <tarvid> I have a seconds client who is facing an upgrade of elemewntalclinic
00:32:28 <bmckown> Ok. Hehe. Thee is a wiki link that may help ....
00:32:48 <tarvid> Not even the database will upgrade easily
00:33:30 <bmckown> What database do they want to upgrade?
00:34:41 <bmckown> I mean a novice should not upgrade 1.3 to 1.5 in production but is that what you mean?
00:34:43 <tarvid> elementalclinic older version to newer
00:35:22 <tarvid> but her clinical mentor doesn't like the hosted solution
00:35:33 <tarvid> maybe just the $175/month
00:36:54 <tarvid> is this the wiki page? http://openmrs.org/wiki/OpenMRS_Implementation_Survey
00:36:56 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/365f> (at openmrs.org)
00:38:05 <bmckown> I would give 1 week for upgrade from 1.3 to 1.5 for production. That includes testing and upgrading modules. That's what I'm giving myself to do the same for Kenya nut were talking 40million PBS
00:38:34 <bmckown> Damn auto corretion
00:38:40 <Keelhaul> bmckown: on the other hand, how many 1.5 production deployments are there?
00:38:50 <bmckown> Obs not PBS
00:39:04 <bmckown> I dunno
00:39:18 <tarvid> I am confusing you
00:39:27 <bmckown> Maybe so
00:39:34 <tarvid> The database upgrade is for elementalclinic
00:39:54 <bmckown> What is elementalclinic?
00:39:58 <tarvid> Thought is might be well to focus on OpenMRS. I see other opportunities
00:40:08 <tarvid> Yet another open source MRS
00:40:12 <Keelhaul> what's used right now?
00:40:37 <tarvid> At the counselors office
00:40:37 <bwolfe> tarvid: these are the only guys I know of that do openmrs installs commercially: http://openemrhq.com/blog/?p=12
00:40:43 <bmckown> Sorry I'm on my phone. Not good at typing on my pahone
00:41:03 <tarvid> The free clinic has ill organized paper records
00:42:02 <bmckown> Hmm. Where do u want the install?
00:42:09 <tarvid> The commercial link will serve well.
00:42:13 <tarvid> Galax
00:42:13 <tarvid> VA
00:42:39 <bmckown> Wow. Virginia, USA ?
00:43:28 <bwolfe> which group are you with tarvid ? there is another install somewhere in virgina that I've heard of
00:43:38 <tarvid> Appalachia, not all that different from the third world
00:43:47 <bmckown> Hmm. Could maybe email implementers list to ask them.
00:44:09 <tarvid> I am independent. I do Drupal and microeconomics in International Health
00:44:14 <bmckown> !community
00:44:14 <OpenMRSBot> bmckown: Error: "community" is not a valid command.
00:44:41 <tarvid> One twist is that some of the surveys I work with could be done with OpenMRS
00:44:45 <bmckown> When u need the bot! ...
00:45:16 <bmckown> Yea I meant the imlpementers mailing list
00:45:40 <bmckown> For openmrs may be of help here
00:45:43 <Keelhaul> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Community
00:45:48 <Keelhaul> !learn
00:45:48 <OpenMRSBot> Keelhaul: Invalid arguments for learn.
00:45:54 <bmckown> Thanks Keelhaul
00:45:55 <Keelhaul> !learn community http://openmrs.org/wiki/Community
00:45:55 <OpenMRSBot> Keelhaul: Invalid arguments for learn.
00:45:58 <Keelhaul> damn
00:46:02 <Keelhaul> dunno how ot use it =/
00:46:30 <bmckown> Hmm I thought it worked that way?
00:46:38 <tarvid> Can one avoid MS Infopath with something like Jasper Reports
00:46:40 <Keelhaul> !learn "community" http://openmrs.org/wiki/Community
00:46:40 <OpenMRSBot> Keelhaul: Invalid arguments for learn.
00:46:53 <Keelhaul> tarvid: there is a nice html form entry module now
00:47:01 <Keelhaul> but you have to design the forms in html
00:47:07 <Keelhaul> there's no wysiwyg designer yet
00:47:09 <bmckown> Ooh. Now that is a good question tarvid
00:47:14 <Keelhaul> someone will make one during gsoc now =)
00:47:23 <Keelhaul> hopefully
00:47:40 <bmckown> Most all still depedent on infopath
00:47:58 <Keelhaul> i think htmlformentry doesnt support complex obs yet
00:48:02 <Keelhaul> does infopath?
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00:48:43 <Agnor> back
00:49:06 <bmckown> Aaasaaaaaaaaah
00:49:07 <tarvid> infopath doesn't sound far from Jasper
00:49:18 <bmckown> Stupid phone
00:49:42 <tarvid> There might even be something in Netbeans
00:50:01 <bmckown> We've never tried infopath with xomplex obs yet
00:50:07 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: remember you sent me a form you used somewhere, one with three pages? can you send it to me again?
00:50:49 <tarvid> Infopath isn't all that expensive
00:51:18 <tarvid> I'm on Xp right now and I'll survice until I get back to my workstation
00:51:35 <Keelhaul> 200 dollars per machine
00:51:52 <Keelhaul> unless there're volume licenses
00:52:19 <bmckown> Well .... Yea the volume stuff
00:52:24 <tarvid> I haven't spent $200 on software over the past 5 years
00:52:51 <bmckown> Were trying for alternatives
00:53:04 <tarvid> I'll look around.
00:53:30 <tarvid> Actually I have enough to chew on for a few hours.
00:53:44 <bmckown> HTML formentry sounds like it may be good but not sure if used yet
00:53:45 <tarvid> I thank you all
00:54:04 <bmckown> Thank you tarvid for inquiring
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00:55:50 <bmckown> First thing I'm gonna do when I jailbreak this phone is get rid of the silly colloquy message when I leave a chat
00:56:24 <bmckown> Forwarning cause I have to leave
00:56:48 <Keelhaul> lol
00:57:05 <bmckown> Thanks for helping me with the bot Keelhaul
00:57:18 <Keelhaul> lol but i didnt
00:57:22 <Keelhaul> i just pasted the link manually
00:57:28 <Keelhaul> i dont know how to make it learn things =/
00:57:38 <bmckown> Oh well that helped!!!
00:57:43 <bmckown> Thx
00:57:43 <Keelhaul> heh np
00:57:48 <Keelhaul> are you leaving right now?
00:57:50 <bmckown> Bye
00:57:55 <Keelhaul> ok bye
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02:09:09 <ajitlodhi> hi..
02:10:37 <Keelhaul> hi
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07:53:36 <ajitlodhi> hi
07:54:05 <ajitlodhi> its seems that festival of GSoC has faded
07:54:09 <ajitlodhi> :)
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09:33:44 <r0bby> ajitlodhi: now we wait
09:33:56 <r0bby> and I use this weekend to try and fix my code
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11:03:44 <Agnor> hi
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12:06:34 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1391 (task created): Remove unused GUIDs: user_role <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1391>
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14:39:06 <k_nishant> hello
14:39:28 <k_nishant> any knowledge of evaluation part
14:42:46 <Agnor> hi
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14:58:58 <shyamheartbreakk> hey Burke Mamlin are u here?
15:00:23 <shyamheartbreakk> hey i have applied for gsoc.. I was asked about a proposed plan but just now got to know it how do i pass the info now?
15:00:50 <shyamheartbreakk> am new to gsoc..thanks for ur help
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15:24:35 <k_nishant> shyamheartbreakk: wat happen
15:39:01 <shyamheartbreakk> i was asked about a detailed plan but how do i let the entor know that?
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15:49:06 <k_nishant> well have u submitted any link
15:51:10 <shyamheartbreakk> i don get you
15:51:46 <shyamheartbreakk> I am askin if there is any way by which i could pass the info to mentor
15:52:26 <nribeka> you could try the dev list shyamheartbreakk
15:53:01 <shyamheartbreakk> dev list?
15:53:42 <shyamheartbreakk> where?
15:54:13 <k_nishant> well I'm telin have u posted any additional info link
15:54:21 <k_nishant> where u can edit and update it
15:54:57 <shyamheartbreakk> nope i just submittd my proposal:(
15:55:12 <k_nishant> uff den I can explain
15:55:20 <k_nishant> can't expalin
15:55:35 <shyamheartbreakk> hmm thnks anyway:)
15:57:47 <Echidna> shyamheartbreakk: when did you send your application?
16:01:27 <shyamheartbreakk> apr 2nd
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17:51:59 <k_nishant> Agnor: hello
17:52:14 <Agnor> hi
17:52:15 <k_nishant> have u recieved any comments
17:52:21 <Agnor> not yet
17:52:34 <k_nishant> ok
17:52:42 <k_nishant> who is your mentor
17:53:10 <Agnor> I've applied to three projects, so there are various mentors
17:53:18 <k_nishant> nice
17:54:09 <Agnor> what projects have you applied for?
17:58:57 <deepakverma1> K_nishant hello
18:00:45 <k_nishant> Agnor: I applied for Role based home page
18:00:52 <k_nishant> deepakverma1: hello
18:01:04 <Agnor> hi deepakverma1
18:01:21 <deepakverma1> hi K_nishat
18:01:42 <Agnor> I've applied for that one too, and also Active Lists and WYSIWYG Form Designer
18:02:13 <deepakverma1> K_nishant you have applied for Role base home page
18:02:18 <deepakverma1> nice
18:03:18 <k_nishant> Agnor: So u haven't recieved any comments from any mentors
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18:03:28 <Agnor> no I haven't
18:03:44 <Agnor> there should be a lot of applications, so I think they'll take a while
18:04:17 <k_nishant> Agnor: gud thought
18:04:53 <k_nishant> Agnor: Is this your first time
18:04:58 <Agnor> yes
18:05:02 <k_nishant> or applied earlier too
18:05:06 <k_nishant> hmm
18:05:12 <k_nishant> so you are from
18:05:20 <Agnor> Portugal
18:05:42 <k_nishant> ok me from INDIA
18:05:53 <Agnor> I've only heard about GSOC on Wednesday, so my application isn't very good :(
18:06:32 <pv78> hi all
18:06:41 <Agnor> pv78: hi
18:06:55 <k_nishant> but its ur hard labour that u applied for three
18:07:00 <pv78> hi agnor
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18:07:51 <Agnor> well, they are mostly copy-paste, mainly the information about myself
18:08:16 <Agnor> I've only changed project specific information
18:08:53 <Agnor> they're not good applications, but better than nothing
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18:10:48 <pv78> Hi nribeka : i have created a module in openmrs which save and retrieve data from my table. now i have created another table and code Service for that now plz guide me how i map that (new) service class in moduleApplicationContext...!
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18:19:00 <andrewaclt> Caused by: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space This means something isn't being taken care of by the GC?
18:22:51 <andrewaclt> class loader apprently.
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18:29:07 <nribeka> pv78 are u still here?
18:29:18 <nribeka> sorry i was just finish watching liverpool vs fulham
18:29:18 <nribeka> :D
18:31:23 <andrewaclt> poor fulham
18:36:49 <nribeka> did you watch it too andrewaclt?
18:36:57 <nribeka> where are you right now?
18:37:06 <andrewaclt> in my apartment?
18:37:21 <andrewaclt> Yeah, I watched it.
18:37:56 <nribeka> i'm a big fans of liverpool. so it's good for me :D
18:37:57 <nribeka> lol
18:38:06 <andrewaclt> meh
18:38:10 <andrewaclt> so is my roommate
18:38:27 <andrewaclt> ManU is two games down, so no worries :)
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18:39:49 <nribeka> man u is going down
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18:40:01 <nribeka> haha hope villa will beat them bad tomorrow
18:40:05 <andrewaclt> lol
18:41:56 <nribeka> barcelona time :D
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18:52:11 <andrewaclt> Can you store hospital bed assignements using openmrs?
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19:12:45 <nribeka> andrewaclt: i think Keelhaul is creating something like that
19:12:52 <nribeka> if i remember it correctly
19:14:29 <Echidna> yea
19:19:31 <andrewaclt> oh okay
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19:38:58 <Echidna> actually it is created
19:39:07 <Echidna> just waitingon the academia to do their part
19:39:11 <Echidna> then they can be released
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19:48:00 <andrewaclt> What about patient allegery information? I couldn't find any any information, except a GSoC project, so I'm assuming it's not implemeneted yet?
19:48:19 <andrewaclt> *allgery
19:48:23 <andrewaclt> *allegry heh
19:48:36 <andrewaclt> I can't type
19:48:37 <andrewaclt> you get the idea
19:49:25 <andrewaclt> *allergy
19:50:02 <sdefabbiakane> there's not a well-established way of doing it, no
19:50:38 <Agnor> isn't there a concept named Allergy?
19:51:08 <sdefabbiakane> there are a few concepts for allergies to medicine, yes
19:54:51 <andrewaclt> Is there docuementation somewhere defining concepts, observations, etc?
19:54:57 <Agnor> yes
19:55:00 <Agnor> wait a minut
19:55:14 <Agnor> http://openmrs.org/wiki/OpenMRS_Data_Model_Documentation
19:55:15 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/329:> (at openmrs.org)
19:55:26 <andrewaclt> thanks
19:55:36 <Agnor> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Concept_Dictionary_Guidelines
19:55:37 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/34sa> (at openmrs.org)
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20:10:24 <Echidna> andrewaclt: no allergy information, no
20:10:34 <Echidna> i'm actually waiting on someone to implement something =)
20:10:59 <Echidna> a lot of people applied to active lists, it seems
20:11:02 <Echidna> to it looks promising
20:11:06 <Echidna> for*
20:11:12 <Echidna> so*
20:11:21 <sdefabbiakane> how many is a lot?
20:11:26 <Echidna> dunno
20:11:41 <Echidna> i just heard most people talking about that in here before applications were submitted
20:11:56 <sdefabbiakane> oh, ok
20:12:17 <Echidna> but then again, they got about 100 applications, bwolfe said
20:12:35 <Echidna> and i'm sure not all of the applicants came through here
20:13:17 <Echidna> bbl
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20:24:15 <k_nishant1> any one knows how amny application posted last GSOC
20:25:13 <k_nishant1> this is a great achievement for the OPEN MRS team
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20:35:30 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1392 (defect created): sync: NPE on collection add <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1392>
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