| 00:07:52 | <Mkop2> note to self: understanding the particulars of a hw assignment generally makes said assignment easier. |
| 00:08:24 | <Keelhaul> captain obvious strikes again =) |
| 00:14:48 | <Mkop2> I spent a while trying to figure out how I'm supposed to use an iterator for the main thing we're supposed to write, but then I realized we only had to use an iterator for one particular short answer question |
| 00:16:39 | <Mkop2> python is so cool |
| 00:17:13 | <Mkop2> no need for multiple if statements: if sys.argv[1] in ['-h','-help','--help']: |
| 00:17:13 | <r0bby> Mkop2: groovy is better |
| 00:17:36 | <Mkop2> never used it |
| 00:17:51 | <r0bby> def list = [1,2,3,5]; list.each { println it } |
| 00:18:06 | <r0bby> :) |
| 00:19:22 | * r0bby has good grasp of the groovy programming language |
| 00:19:24 | <Mkop2> no, I'm not trying to print all of those |
| 00:19:34 | <r0bby> Mkop2: well do whatever you need w/ it |
| 00:19:38 | <r0bby> :) \ |
| 00:19:41 | <Mkop2> I'm doing an if |
| 00:20:00 | <Mkop2> if sys.argv=='-h' or sys.argv=='-help' or .... |
| 00:20:06 | <r0bby> list.collect { int i -> i & 1 == 0 } |
| 00:20:16 | <r0bby> list.collect { int i -> (i & 1) == 0 } |
| 00:20:25 | <Mkop2> for list operations, I don't think anything beats matlab |
| 00:20:33 | <Mkop2> matlab is awesome for list/matrix stuff |
| 00:29:15 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #904 (defect closed): data export doesn't support constructs <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/904#comment:6> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7237]: Added ability to export concept sets (constructs) from data exports - ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7237> |
| 00:36:32 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: do controllers get called at any time when a module is first loaded? |
| 00:37:06 | <Keelhaul> private final String DATE_PATTERN = OpenmrsUtil.getDateFormat().toPattern() + " HH:mm"; |
| 00:37:26 | <Keelhaul> this particular line at the beginning of a controller in any of my modules seems to be preventing pring from restarting properly |
| 00:37:37 | <Keelhaul> if i remove it, tomcat restarts fine |
| 00:40:59 | <Keelhaul> spring* |
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| 01:10:01 | <jmiranda> Keelhaul: Controllers are definitely created when the app starts up |
| 01:10:49 | <Keelhaul> ah ic |
| 01:11:11 | <Keelhaul> so apparently calling getDateFormat() when nobody is logged in seems to cause problems for some reason |
| 01:12:05 | <Keelhaul> if (!isSessionOpen()) |
| 01:12:05 | <Keelhaul> return LocaleUtility.getDefaultLocale(); |
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| 01:59:05 | <nribeka> hello all |
| 01:59:14 | <nribeka> any recommendation on UML tools? |
| 01:59:16 | <nribeka> :D |
| 01:59:21 | <isurundt> hi nibreka |
| 01:59:55 | <andrewaclt> What kind of UML, you just want to model things, you want to generate code based off of models, or you want to build UML off existing code? |
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| 02:01:34 | <nribeka> just model |
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| 02:01:44 | <nribeka> drawing uml |
| 02:02:00 | <isurundt> i have used ArgoUML some time back |
| 02:02:14 | <isurundt> very simple tool |
| 02:02:48 | <isurundt> http://argouml.tigris.org/ |
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| 02:05:33 | <nribeka1> anybody use visual paradigm? |
| 02:06:10 | <isurundt> nribeka:have you got the message i sent you earlier |
| 02:07:10 | <nribeka1> which one isurundt |
| 02:07:20 | <nribeka1> probably no |
| 02:07:20 | <nribeka1> :D |
| 02:07:28 | <isurundt> nribeka:i have used ArgoUML |
| 02:07:45 | <nribeka1> ooo tigris? |
| 02:07:57 | <isurundt> yep |
| 02:08:31 | <nribeka1> ok isurundt |
| 02:08:33 | <nribeka1> lemme try |
| 02:08:34 | <nribeka1> :) |
| 02:08:41 | <isurundt> ok |
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| 02:10:45 | <nribeka1> thanks isurundt |
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| 02:10:58 | <isurundt> np |
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| 02:26:42 | <nribeka1> yahoooooo balsamiq installed thanks to jmiranda :) |
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| 02:46:08 | * r0bby needs to get that installed as well. |
| 02:46:16 | <r0bby> right now i'm busy doing hw |
| 02:46:23 | <r0bby> so i don't see my GPA take a tumble |
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| 02:55:35 | <nribeka> what installed r0bby? |
| 03:05:11 | <Mkop2> does he mean balsamiq? |
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| 03:35:58 | <Mkop2> lol |
| 03:36:07 | <Mkop2> one of my choices for a senior design project is in fortran |
| 03:36:22 | <Keelhaul> old skl |
| 03:37:06 | <Mkop2> yep |
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| 03:54:37 | <tamasiaina> Good evening! |
| 03:56:18 | <tamasiaina> How is everybody this evening? |
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| 03:56:40 | <pv78> hi all |
| 03:56:55 | <tamasiaina> Hello |
| 03:58:05 | <pv78> nribeka ; tamasiaina ; hi can u help me how i implement dojo widjet in my JSP in my module |
| 03:59:02 | <pv78> what would be the link to inlcude DOJO.css and tundara.css? |
| 03:59:51 | <tamasiaina> sorry, I am not familiar with that |
| 04:00:00 | <tamasiaina> I do not know if anybody else is here |
| 04:04:09 | <pv78> hi i can link my non jsp file (from resources) to my jsp. now i wana apply some dojo to my jsp i wana use dojo from openmrs. how i can link dojo from openmrs in my JSP in my module. plz |
| 04:04:34 | <bwolfe> pv78: there are modules that use dojo already |
| 04:05:26 | <bwolfe> do you need an updated version of dojo, or the one that is in trunk ? |
| 04:06:54 | <bwolfe> pv78: jquery is really the way forward...dojo will be removed eventually |
| 04:07:16 | <pv78> from trunk |
| 04:07:18 | <bwolfe> pv78: you should be able to reference anything in core openmrs (like dojo) normally from your module |
| 04:08:20 | <nribeka> are you working on specific module pv78? |
| 04:08:22 | <pv78> yes i want to know how to refer..... as i ref to moduleresurces but dont know how to do with openmrs |
| 04:08:35 | <pv78> yes nribeka |
| 04:08:37 | <nribeka> how about doing some trivial tickets? :) |
| 04:08:59 | <bwolfe> pv78: look in trunk at the url that is used on pages there |
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| 04:09:10 | <bwolfe> its something like /openmrs/scripts/dojo/... |
| 04:09:57 | <bwolfe> gotta run. nribeka will have to help you out :-) |
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| 04:10:22 | <pv78> ok thanks bwolfe nribeka i have got it |
| 04:11:15 | <r0bby> nribeka is god |
| 04:11:21 | <r0bby> why isn't he mentoring? |
| 04:13:32 | <nribeka> i'm not good |
| 04:13:36 | <nribeka> r0bby is the best |
| 04:13:41 | <nribeka> kami-sama r0bby |
| 04:13:52 | <Keelhaul> you're both awesome. |
| 04:13:54 | <Keelhaul> =) |
| 04:14:10 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: If you need groovy help, i'm your man :) |
| 04:14:17 | <r0bby> I will say, if you coded in groovy things would be easu |
| 04:14:34 | <Keelhaul> yea, too bad you're the only one who uses groovy =P |
| 04:14:45 | <r0bby> def map = [:] as TreeMap; def treeSet = [] as TreeSet; |
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| 04:15:29 | <tamasiaina_1> pft i hate it when i accidently pull the plug to my laptop |
| 04:16:13 | * r0bby has a laptop that is 1 year old :) |
| 04:16:20 | <r0bby> Bought it w/ my soc money |
| 04:16:24 | <r0bby> I LOVE it |
| 04:16:29 | <Keelhaul> what |
| 04:16:31 | <Keelhaul> you got money? |
| 04:16:31 | <tamasiaina_1> Sweet! |
| 04:16:37 | <Keelhaul> but you never finished your module =P |
| 04:16:45 | <tamasiaina_1> :P |
| 04:16:48 | <tamasiaina_1> they never knew did they! |
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| 04:19:13 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: there was circumstances out of my control |
| 04:19:16 | <r0bby> I lost my final week |
| 04:19:26 | <r0bby> plus burke wasn't around like...ever |
| 04:20:00 | <tamasiaina_1> Yeah, I was just playing around :P |
| 04:20:07 | <r0bby> Hopefully, he doesn't put his new student through what i went through... |
| 04:20:15 | <Keelhaul> higher power? |
| 04:20:20 | <r0bby> tamasiaina_1: my uncle passed away the last week before soc |
| 04:20:34 | <Keelhaul> r0bby: sorry to hear =( |
| 04:20:42 | <r0bby> so I kinda had funeral and crap |
| 04:20:56 | <r0bby> so my project was in the back of my mind; i kinda took it hard. |
| 04:21:22 | <tamasiaina_1> oh sorry to hear that I didn't mean to be insensitive |
| 04:21:32 | <tamasiaina_1> I knew that you probably had a reason |
| 04:21:32 | <Keelhaul> http://s5.tinypic.com/311sady.jpg |
| 04:22:44 | <r0bby> plus anything i wrote AFTER the "pencils down" |
| 04:23:20 | <tamasiaina_1> Do you think you guys will have a student for every project? |
| 04:23:25 | <r0bby> date was NOT allowed to be included in my final code sample so it was kinda pointless to fret so I'm working on it whenever i can and right now, i'm kinda busy :) |
| 04:23:29 | <r0bby> not _EVERY_ |
| 04:23:39 | <r0bby> depends how many slots we get |
| 04:23:45 | <tamasiaina_1> I heard 10 |
| 04:23:47 | <Keelhaul> 10 i think |
| 04:23:58 | <Keelhaul> not enough mentors |
| 04:24:02 | <Keelhaul> there could have been 11-12 |
| 04:24:32 | <tamasiaina_1> Yeah, I wish I could do it this summer, but I just won't have enough time |
| 04:25:04 | <nribeka> google trim down number of students compared to last year |
| 04:25:18 | <tamasiaina_1> Yeah, they aren't having the best economical year |
| 04:25:22 | <tamasiaina_1> well, nobody is really |
| 04:25:23 | <Keelhaul> the department where i studied annouced gsoc with openmrs in particular in their mailing list |
| 04:25:30 | <Keelhaul> so far, i havent seen anyone here =/ |
| 04:26:18 | <tamasiaina_1> Oh |
| 04:26:33 | <Keelhaul> yea that lady that handles it prolly spent most of the money on bucket-o-wings =x |
| 04:26:44 | <tamasiaina_1> lol |
| 04:27:49 | <r0bby> 1000 |
| 04:28:00 | <r0bby> I hope i get picked this year, but i'm not holding my breath |
| 04:29:38 | <tamasiaina_1> I plan to work on something though this summer, but I just don't feel like I can qualify for GSOC :( |
| 04:29:41 | <tamasiaina_1> for this year |
| 04:30:48 | <tamasiaina_1> Due to time |
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| 04:33:25 | <r0bby> tamasiaina: dude, if i didn't finish a project and still applied; you could too |
| 04:33:45 | <r0bby> Just show you know your shit and can explain how you'd go about your project |
| 04:34:28 | <tamasiaina> Yeah, I'll try most likely |
| 04:35:01 | <Keelhaul> what project are you applying for |
| 04:35:26 | <tamasiaina> I am interested in making an Auditing module |
| 04:35:29 | * r0bby gets out his shank |
| 04:35:31 | <r0bby> oh |
| 04:35:34 | <Keelhaul> oh |
| 04:35:35 | * r0bby puts his shank away |
| 04:35:41 | <tamasiaina> loL |
| 04:35:48 | <Keelhaul> theres some guy who wrote about that on the mailing list earlier today |
| 04:35:49 | <Keelhaul> from cali |
| 04:35:51 | <Keelhaul> was that you |
| 04:35:51 | <Mkop2> !baseballgunbat |
| 04:35:51 | <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: "baseballgunbat" --- (#1) bwolfe's preferred debugging tool, or (#2) Mkop2's tool of wrath for people who add more javadoc warnings to the pile |
| 04:36:01 | <tamasiaina> Nope I haven't joined the mailing list yet |
| 04:36:16 | <tamasiaina> School and marriage planning is kicking my trash atm :P |
| 04:36:25 | <Keelhaul> marriage =o |
| 04:36:27 | <Keelhaul> whose |
| 04:36:30 | <Mkop2> his |
| 04:36:31 | <tamasiaina> Mine!!! |
| 04:36:34 | <r0bby> !learn baseballgunbat as r0bby's preferred weapon as well |
| 04:36:34 | <OpenMRSBot> r0bby: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:36:34 | <Keelhaul> heh |
| 04:36:41 | <Keelhaul> dont you wanna finish school first =P |
| 04:36:55 | <r0bby> tamasiaina: marriage is for wimps :) |
| 04:36:55 | <Mkop2> hey! whoever said a baseballgunbat is a weapon? |
| 04:36:58 | <Mkop2> it's a debugging tool |
| 04:37:03 | <tamasiaina> Nah |
| 04:37:08 | <Mkop2> or a preventative maintenance tool |
| 04:37:09 | <Keelhaul> everything can be repurposed |
| 04:37:29 | <tamasiaina> +Keelhaul: If I am going to get married to this girl might as well do it now :) |
| 04:37:36 | <r0bby> Mkop2: sure |
| 04:37:36 | <Mkop2> true |
| 04:37:48 | <r0bby> it eliminates people who write bad code, hence eliminating the code :) |
| 04:37:52 | <Mkop2> look at you, turning #openmrs into a violent place |
| 04:38:05 | <r0bby> I NEVER do that |
| 04:38:05 | * Mkop2 chucks r0bby out the window for encouraging violence |
| 04:38:07 | <r0bby> you did it! |
| 04:38:13 | <Keelhaul> haters |
| 04:38:17 | <r0bby> bwolfe started it! |
| 04:38:22 | <Mkop2> true, true |
| 04:38:27 | <Mkop2> but it was for a reason |
| 04:38:42 | <Mkop2> and how are you talking? you're supposed to be falling out the window |
| 04:39:04 | <r0bby> I |
| 04:39:06 | <Mkop2> on a side note, the windows in my building are not big enough to let any person climb through |
| 04:39:08 | <r0bby> 'm magical. |
| 04:39:23 | <Mkop2> you grabbed your laptop on the way out |
| 04:39:35 | <Keelhaul> defenestration of #openmrs =) |
| 04:40:56 | <Mkop2> !soc |
| 04:40:56 | <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: "soc" --- (#1) http://code.google.com/soc, or (#2) http://soc2009.openmrs.org, or (#3) http://projects.openmrs.org |
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| 04:42:40 | <Mkop2> I needed the links to give to a friend of mine |
| 04:46:13 | <r0bby> !projects |
| 04:46:13 | <OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "projects" --- (#1) http://projects.openmrs.org, or (#2) http://openmrs.org/wiki/Unassigned_Projects |
| 04:46:17 | <r0bby> also give him that |
| 04:46:23 | <r0bby> second link is better |
| 04:48:49 | <ajay_chhatwal> hello...i am intersted in doing a GSoC project on Longitudinal Data Review (Discrete Data Flowsheet) Module and Role-based home page |
| 04:49:40 | <ajay_chhatwal> can someone plz discuss my project proposal |
| 04:53:46 | <tamasiaina> what's the mailing list for this? |
| 04:53:48 | <tamasiaina> openmrs |
| 04:53:58 | <Mkop2> ajay_chhatwal: there are no mentors online now. |
| 04:54:16 | <Mkop2> well, jmiranda is a mentor, but he's away from the computer |
| 04:54:28 | <ajay_chhatwal> ok...i'll wait |
| 04:54:49 | <Mkop2> r0bby: he's not interested in doing gsoc, I'm just telling him about what I'm hoping to do |
| 04:54:59 | <Mkop2> ajay_chhatwal: you mean wait until the morning? |
| 04:55:20 | <Mkop2> when I say "away from the computer", I mean he's been away for the past 3 hours and 50 minutes |
| 04:55:26 | <ajay_chhatwal> ok |
| 04:55:46 | <ajay_chhatwal> well shd i canttact the mentors directly on email ? |
| 04:55:59 | <Mkop2> you're welcome to, if you wish |
| 04:56:07 | <ajay_chhatwal> k |
| 04:56:10 | <ajay_chhatwal> thanks |
| 04:56:15 | <Mkop2> or you can email the dev listserv |
| 04:56:23 | <ajay_chhatwal> ok |
| 04:57:28 | <r0bby> you can :) |
| 05:02:09 | <tamasiaina> Well, I gotta go to sleep |
| 05:02:15 | <tamasiaina> talk to you guys/gals tomorrow |
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| 05:18:26 | <docpaul> hi. :) |
| 05:19:03 | <Keelhaul> hi |
| 05:19:05 | <Keelhaul> why up so late |
| 05:19:08 | * docpaul points prospective students to the "Global Caching Support for Logic Service" project proposal |
| 05:19:30 | <docpaul> especially if you have experience with ehcache or some other robust cache framework |
| 05:19:43 | <docpaul> just doing some writing while family is asleep |
| 05:20:57 | <ajay_chhatwal> docpaul: si, i wish to discuss my project on Longitudinal Data Review (Discrete Data Flowsheet) Module for GSoC |
| 05:21:10 | <docpaul> ajay: sure |
| 05:21:16 | <docpaul> i have about 5 mins |
| 05:21:23 | <docpaul> how can i help? |
| 05:21:25 | <ajay_chhatwal> ok..thanx |
| 05:21:50 | <ajay_chhatwal> can you elaborate a bit about your requirements |
| 05:22:27 | <docpaul> right now, the main way to look @ data retrospectively in the web application is through an encounter-based view... |
| 05:22:35 | <docpaul> does that make sense so far? |
| 05:22:46 | <Keelhaul> unless you have my medical problem module =) |
| 05:23:20 | <ajay_chhatwal> yes |
| 05:23:43 | <ajay_chhatwal> you wish to have a sinple table view to display the information |
| 05:23:51 | <docpaul> Keelhaul: not on the module repository, so it doesn't exist. :) |
| 05:23:59 | <Keelhaul> not my fault.. |
| 05:24:00 | <ajay_chhatwal> from the database |
| 05:24:13 | <docpaul> whose fault is it? :) |
| 05:24:23 | <Keelhaul> the system's =) |
| 05:24:32 | <docpaul> ajay_chhatwal: much more than a simple table view |
| 05:24:46 | <docpaul> sec |
| 05:24:46 | <ajay_chhatwal> yes..that's what i wish to ask |
| 05:24:57 | <ajay_chhatwal> what all functionality do you want |
| 05:25:20 | <Keelhaul> docpaul: well you have server access so you're welcome to take a look anytime |
| 05:25:40 | <Keelhaul> but i cant upload them codez till they've published =/ |
| 05:25:58 | <docpaul> ajay: sec... |
| 05:26:16 | <ajay_chhatwal> ok... |
| 05:26:34 | <Mkop2> ooh, docpaul is here! |
| 05:27:14 | <Keelhaul> ok slp time |
| 05:27:14 | <Keelhaul> gn |
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| 05:27:37 | <docpaul> take a look @ this: |
| 05:27:37 | <docpaul> http://tr.im/i4yY |
| 05:27:56 | <docpaul> something that i havent had a lot of time to mock at this point but we can use this as a starting point |
| 05:28:37 | <ajay_chhatwal> ok |
| 05:28:42 | <docpaul> see it? |
| 05:29:01 | <ajay_chhatwal> ya...well that should be easy to make |
| 05:29:15 | <docpaul> the idea is that you'd start with observations for a given patient in reverse chronological order |
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| 05:29:38 | <docpaul> and then use the tools on the left to filter results down |
| 05:29:39 | <ajay_chhatwal> ok |
| 05:29:54 | <docpaul> have you ever seen kayak.com? |
| 05:30:01 | <ajay_chhatwal> that can be done using javascript and ajax |
| 05:30:02 | <amoga> hi all |
| 05:30:07 | <ajay_chhatwal> no... |
| 05:30:28 | <docpaul> http://www.kayak.com/s/flightprogress.jsp?searchid=DHqbin |
| 05:30:32 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/35H1> (at www.kayak.com) |
| 05:30:53 | <docpaul> imagine something like this... with medical data vertically down the right side of the application |
| 05:31:00 | <docpaul> and play with the widgets off to the left |
| 05:31:10 | <docpaul> see how it changes what flights are available? |
| 05:31:29 | <ajay_chhatwal> well...sorry buts saying "Sorry, your search has expired or failed." |
| 05:32:01 | <docpaul> just go to http://www.kayak.com |
| 05:32:14 | <docpaul> and type in ind for "from" and san for "to" |
| 05:32:16 | <ajay_chhatwal> ya...seeing it |
| 05:32:18 | <docpaul> and click search |
| 05:32:28 | <ajay_chhatwal> yes sir...i understand that |
| 05:32:33 | <ajay_chhatwal> wait a sec |
| 05:33:00 | <docpaul> the key requirements will be: |
| 05:33:32 | <docpaul> 1) creating a standard graphical representation of observations that can stack into a list |
| 05:33:45 | <ajay_chhatwal> ok |
| 05:34:01 | <docpaul> 2) build code to reverse chronologically list them from the repository |
| 05:34:20 | <docpaul> 3) build filtering tools to tailor down list to values of interest |
| 05:34:37 | <docpaul> hopefully this makes sense |
| 05:34:41 | <ajay_chhatwal> yes sir |
| 05:34:53 | <nribeka> hi docpaul |
| 05:35:00 | <docpaul> so, javascript and jsp is "easy" for you then? :) |
| 05:35:00 | <nribeka> i love balsamiq :D |
| 05:35:15 | <docpaul> hi wyn. :) |
| 05:35:21 | <ajay_chhatwal> i thyes |
| 05:35:21 | <ajay_chhatwal> sorry |
| 05:35:21 | <ajay_chhatwal> yes |
| 05:35:45 | <ajay_chhatwal> i have already dev two web applications using J2EE and javascript |
| 05:35:48 | <docpaul> do you have background in java and jsp as well? |
| 05:35:51 | <docpaul> neat |
| 05:35:53 | <ajay_chhatwal> yes |
| 05:36:01 | <docpaul> why are you interested in OpenMRS? |
| 05:36:19 | <nribeka> i think it's more than 5 mins already docpaul hehe :D |
| 05:36:36 | <docpaul> i know... i'm tired. :) |
| 05:37:09 | <ajay_chhatwal> well i feel that it is an organisation which helps make the world a better place |
| 05:37:09 | <ajay_chhatwal> and by contributing code to it |
| 05:37:09 | <ajay_chhatwal> it can be a part of it |
| 05:37:21 | <ajay_chhatwal> as well as do what i like best...code |
| 05:37:33 | <docpaul> nice... so where do you live? |
| 05:37:57 | <ajay_chhatwal> in india |
| 05:38:05 | <ajay_chhatwal> and i have seen these problems many times |
| 05:38:15 | <docpaul> whereabouts in india? |
| 05:38:22 | <ajay_chhatwal> so it feel nice that i can contribute in some way |
| 05:38:28 | <docpaul> have any background in jQuery? |
| 05:38:42 | <ajay_chhatwal> only a bit |
| 05:38:51 | <ajay_chhatwal> but am willing to learn... |
| 05:39:08 | <docpaul> would like to encourage you to take a look at it... and consider using it for AJAX widgets |
| 05:39:17 | <ajay_chhatwal> actually my project partner know a lot about jQuery and AJAX |
| 05:39:39 | <ajay_chhatwal> so i would learn all that is req. |
| 05:39:54 | <ajay_chhatwal> my hometown is new delhi |
| 05:40:09 | <ajay_chhatwal> but i study at varanasi (banaras) |
| 05:40:17 | <Mkop2> docpaul: what timezone is indianapolis? is it eastern all year round? |
| 05:40:25 | <docpaul> do you have examples of your work online? |
| 05:40:51 | <docpaul> Mkop2: eastern, yes... we are now timezone friendly as compared to the days where indiana had it's own timezone. :) |
| 05:40:58 | <ajay_chhatwal> not presently....actuallly i have to submit one project in two weeks |
| 05:41:12 | <ajay_chhatwal> i'll upload it later if you want |
| 05:41:14 | <Mkop2> part of the state still folllows along with chicago though, right? |
| 05:41:23 | <docpaul> that's right Mkop2 |
| 05:41:36 | <docpaul> ajay_chhatwal: that would be a good thing to add in your applicationj |
| 05:41:51 | <Mkop2> docpaul: can I show you my application so far? |
| 05:41:55 | <docpaul> sure |
| 05:41:56 | <ajay_chhatwal> the other project was done for a company so i am afraid i cant put that online |
| 05:41:57 | <Mkop2> you have time to look? |
| 05:42:17 | <docpaul> oh hell, why not... up late anyways |
| 05:42:35 | <docpaul> hopefully you've connected with burke over email? |
| 05:42:35 | <ajay_chhatwal> ok... |
| 05:42:55 | <ajay_chhatwal> well...no |
| 05:43:04 | <Mkop2> docpaul: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=df925sj8_78cdmfpcf8 |
| 05:43:06 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/35H4> (at docs.google.com) |
| 05:43:12 | <Mkop2> no, I haven't connected with him |
| 05:43:13 | <docpaul> ajay_chhatwal: whoops, talking to Mkop2 |
| 05:43:16 | <Mkop2> I guess I should |
| 05:43:22 | <nribeka> i'm doomed. my laptop charger stop working :( |
| 05:43:39 | <ajay_chhatwal> sorry.. |
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| 05:43:45 | <docpaul> ajay_chhatwal: just to wrap up our conversation... i'm the cofounder of OpenMRS, and I'm flattered that you are interested in helping us |
| 05:44:12 | <docpaul> there's a growing interest to use OpenMRS in the pan-Asia/India region... |
| 05:44:26 | <docpaul> there's consideration of having an OpenMRS meeting in Sri Lanka this year that I might attend |
| 05:44:50 | <ajay_chhatwal> i am glad to talk to you |
| 05:45:05 | <ajay_chhatwal> thanks for your time and guidance |
| 05:45:21 | <ajay_chhatwal> i'll submit my application soon |
| 05:45:23 | <docpaul> ajay_chhatwal: likewise... I really appreciate you taking the time to reach out... I think you'll be a competitive applicant |
| 05:45:38 | <pakon> hi all |
| 05:45:39 | <ajay_chhatwal> thanks |
| 05:45:41 | <isurundt> docpaul:wow! in sri lanka? |
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| 05:45:50 | <docpaul> isurundt: yes |
| 05:45:58 | <isurundt> im from Sri Lanka |
| 05:46:00 | <docpaul> many are trying to coerce me to come. |
| 05:46:01 | <isurundt> :) |
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| 05:46:27 | <docpaul> isurundt: I knew that actually... there are many interested in using OpenMRS as the medical record system for your entire country |
| 05:46:31 | <pakon> docpaul isurundt: are you discuss flowsheet? |
| 05:46:42 | <docpaul> i should partner you up with those people |
| 05:46:55 | <isurundt> docpaul:that is great |
| 05:46:57 | <docpaul> pakon: I just finished describing this project, yes |
| 05:47:14 | <docpaul> Mkop2: trying to simultaneously read your proposal |
| 05:47:15 | <docpaul> bear with me |
| 05:47:19 | <pakon> i'm interested in this project too |
| 05:47:21 | <Mkop2> no problem |
| 05:47:44 | <docpaul> let me see if I can replay the conversation... |
| 05:48:16 | <pakon> can you paste log to konnikov@gmail.com? |
| 05:48:29 | <Mkop2> the log is online |
| 05:48:41 | <pakon> Mkop2: where? |
| 05:48:51 | <docpaul> http://pastebin.com/m44f09e11 |
| 05:48:53 | <docpaul> there you are |
| 05:49:02 | <Mkop2> http://dev.openmrs.org/irclogs/2009/04/01 |
| 05:49:13 | <docpaul> Mkop2: duh, of course |
| 05:49:22 | <pakon> tnx |
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| 05:52:10 | <docpaul> this is good Mkop2 |
| 05:52:39 | <docpaul> where I'd go with this additionally, would be to give some insight as to how you might embark on completing the active lists project |
| 05:52:56 | <Mkop2> yeah, that's what I want to fill in in the timeline section |
| 05:53:07 | <Mkop2> it will probably end up being more narrative than timeline though, is my guess |
| 05:54:14 | <docpaul> given that the active lists project will involve a lot of software development |
| 05:54:35 | <docpaul> you want to give people comfort that you're capable of getting the work done within the summer timeline |
| 05:54:53 | <docpaul> write burke in the next 24 hours |
| 05:54:57 | <docpaul> burke@openmrs.org |
| 05:55:21 | <nribeka> where's burke btw docpaul? |
| 05:55:25 | <Mkop2> what do I need to find out from him? just establish contact, get my name into his head, or is there something more? |
| 05:55:42 | <docpaul> just deep in the weeds... he's really wanted to get on irc, and will probably be on tomorrow |
| 05:55:52 | <docpaul> Mkop2: let him know of your interest |
| 05:56:05 | <Mkop2> ok |
| 05:56:11 | <docpaul> there will be a lot of applicants for all projects, and you'll need to differeniate yourself |
| 05:56:22 | <docpaul> right win? :) |
| 05:56:36 | <nribeka> remember Mkop2 1 : 100 here |
| 05:56:37 | <nribeka> lol |
| 05:56:42 | <nribeka> right docpaul :D |
| 05:56:58 | <nribeka> just kidding :P |
| 05:57:06 | <docpaul> we already have 40 |
| 05:57:10 | <Mkop2> why is nribeka called wyn? |
| 05:57:11 | <docpaul> just to give you some sense |
| 05:57:14 | <Mkop2> wow! |
| 05:57:20 | <nribeka> 40 already docpaul wow |
| 05:57:38 | <Mkop2> 40 unique applicants, or 40 applications? |
| 05:57:42 | <nribeka> my mid name is winardi Mkop2 :) |
| 05:57:54 | <pakon> docpaul: 40 applications or 40 students? |
| 05:58:00 | <docpaul> 40 applications... not sure how many uniques... |
| 05:58:10 | <docpaul> probably 25-30 |
| 05:58:23 | <docpaul> the point is that I know of at least that many people planning to apply |
| 05:58:41 | <docpaul> so, my advice to you all (as project lead)... get to know your mentors. :) |
| 05:58:55 | <docpaul> show them your interest and enthusiasm |
| 05:59:24 | <pakon> and how many google slots? |
| 05:59:25 | <docpaul> will be much easier for them to select you if they know of your interest and specific talents |
| 05:59:41 | <nribeka> agree docpaul. even until the very last minute (me) |
| 05:59:52 | <docpaul> we're in a better position, because we will be able to supplment google slots with our own funding |
| 06:00:01 | <nribeka> you have to show interest and enthusiasm |
| 06:00:03 | <docpaul> so i would expect 14-15 |
| 06:00:05 | <Mkop2> oh yeah? cool |
| 06:00:11 | <nribeka> OpenMRS has OIP |
| 06:00:23 | <Mkop2> oh |
| 06:00:41 | <nribeka> it's going to be OIP students + GSoC students, right docpaul |
| 06:00:52 | <docpaul> the only real limits from my perspective is mentorship capacity |
| 06:00:58 | <docpaul> that's right... |
| 06:01:10 | <Mkop2> so that means that you prob have 40 people competing for 10 google slots, and 8 people competing for 5 OIP slots, right? |
| 06:01:14 | <docpaul> OIP funds are earmarked for developing world environments |
| 06:01:20 | <docpaul> no, we consider them all together |
| 06:01:44 | <Mkop2> I'm saying b/c only people from developing countries can get the OIP slots |
| 06:01:45 | <docpaul> there will likely be 70-80 applicants for 14 slots |
| 06:02:07 | <docpaul> the first year we had 142 applications |
| 06:02:10 | <docpaul> hehe |
| 06:02:19 | <docpaul> it was a lot of work to sort through them all |
| 06:02:25 | <Mkop2> how many years have you done gsoc? |
| 06:02:30 | <docpaul> this is our third |
| 06:02:49 | <docpaul> pakon: so was the irc log helpful background for you? |
| 06:03:03 | <pakon> i'm reading ... |
| 06:03:53 | <docpaul> we have an excellent relationship with google. :) |
| 06:04:01 | <docpaul> they are our guardian angels. :) |
| 06:04:05 | <docpaul> one of the many |
| 06:05:21 | <docpaul> production jquery file is 19k |
| 06:05:24 | <docpaul> impressive |
| 06:05:49 | <pakon> "creating a standard graphical representation of observations". what mean "standart"? |
| 06:05:57 | <pakon> standard* |
| 06:06:16 | <docpaul> well, an observation is a clinical question coupled with a value and some associated metadata |
| 06:06:29 | <docpaul> depending on the question, the metadata differs |
| 06:07:04 | <docpaul> so, when I say create a standard representation... i mean create a look and feel "container" that is robust enough to represent different kinds of observations |
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| 06:07:23 | <pakon> aha |
| 06:07:27 | <docpaul> but look consistent so that those "blocks" can be stacked on top of one another to create a longitudinal list |
| 06:07:41 | <docpaul> make sense? :) |
| 06:08:10 | <pakon> ok |
| 06:08:34 | <pakon> should i design UI in my application? |
| 06:08:47 | <docpaul> did you see my link in the irc log? |
| 06:08:55 | <docpaul> i gave a mockup from my clinical perspective |
| 06:09:02 | <docpaul> but you are welcome to expound on the basic idea |
| 06:09:14 | <docpaul> i would like you to take your cues from a couple of sources: |
| 06:09:17 | <pakon> yes |
| 06:09:35 | <docpaul> 1) www.kayak.com |
| 06:10:08 | <docpaul> 2) my mockup |
| 06:10:19 | <docpaul> and then I like creative thinking as well |
| 06:10:33 | <docpaul> so feel free to go further with it and create multiple flavors |
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| 06:10:56 | <pakon> i need some examples of real observations - where i can find this data? in wich tables in db? |
| 06:11:49 | <docpaul> :) |
| 06:11:50 | <docpaul> obs |
| 06:12:08 | <pakon> only one table? |
| 06:12:11 | <docpaul> but the key is in the foreign key relations |
| 06:12:18 | <docpaul> yes, that's in fact the power of OpenMRS |
| 06:12:19 | <pakon> oh ... |
| 06:12:27 | <docpaul> the fact that we stack these obs |
| 06:12:32 | <docpaul> provides a ton of flexibility |
| 06:12:53 | <docpaul> do you have the test dataset? |
| 06:13:12 | <docpaul> there's a sql file that will allow you to create a big dummy patient list with real data behind it |
| 06:13:49 | <pakon> my obs table is empty |
| 06:13:55 | <nribeka> be careful if you use the data. i think Mkop2 having problems because of it |
| 06:14:17 | <Mkop2> yes, indeed |
| 06:14:20 | <docpaul> downloads.openmrs.org |
| 06:14:36 | <docpaul> hmm, wonder what the issue is |
| 06:14:41 | <Mkop2> the update-to-diff-xml-sql-asdf-bla.sql file didn't work for me |
| 06:14:55 | <docpaul> oh wait |
| 06:15:01 | <docpaul> that's not the file I'm talking about |
| 06:15:09 | <nribeka> ooo different one? |
| 06:15:11 | <docpaul> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Special:Downloads/Prereleases/OpenMRS_1.4.0_RC/1.4.0-createdb-from-scratch-with-demo-data.sql |
| 06:15:11 | <Mkop2> you need both of them |
| 06:15:14 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/35HA> (at openmrs.org) |
| 06:15:25 | <Mkop2> oh |
| 06:15:29 | <Mkop2> that's not what I used |
| 06:15:31 | <docpaul> demo data contains obs |
| 06:15:41 | <docpaul> and a dictionary etc |
| 06:15:53 | <Mkop2> I downloaded the set of 10,000 patients from higher up on that page |
| 06:16:18 | * r0bby sighs |
| 06:16:32 | <pakon> ok |
| 06:16:36 | * r0bby cries |
| 06:16:37 | <docpaul> there is also this: |
| 06:16:38 | <docpaul> http://openmrs.org/images/a/a1/Demo-1.4.0.23-mysql.zip |
| 06:16:40 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/35HC> (at openmrs.org) |
| 06:16:51 | <docpaul> which contains forms, 5k patients, and 500k obs |
| 06:17:07 | <r0bby> same data in trunk? |
| 06:17:40 | <r0bby> docpaul |
| 06:17:40 | <docpaul> not sure... i don't curate this stuff anymore like i used to... |
| 06:17:44 | <docpaul> that's what ben does |
| 06:18:03 | * r0bby is in algebraic hell |
| 06:18:09 | <docpaul> sorry rob |
| 06:18:25 | <docpaul> so pakon, if you need help understanding observations, write me |
| 06:18:27 | <docpaul> paul@openmrs.org |
| 06:18:42 | <r0bby> docpaul is the MAN |
| 06:18:50 | <docpaul> i was the principle designer of the database schema |
| 06:18:53 | <r0bby> (not to be confused the man) |
| 06:19:14 | <docpaul> hehe, not really. :) |
| 06:19:16 | <r0bby> i wonder if this works w/ 1.5.x |
| 06:19:17 | <Mkop2> r0bby: what algebra? |
| 06:19:42 | <pakon> docpaul: ok. now i need some time to dive into db :) |
| 06:19:42 | * Mkop2 is in python heaven, except for the whole 2am thing |
| 06:19:47 | <r0bby> oh this is a mathematical proof im writing |
| 06:20:06 | <r0bby> i got *HALF* of what i needed |
| 06:20:17 | <docpaul> Mkop2: just as a personal hint... burke will be impressed that you like python... he holds the language in high regard |
| 06:20:40 | <sdefabbiakane> r0bby: I'll trade you. You can do my verilog homework... |
| 06:20:51 | <Mkop2> docpaul: yeah, I heard a rumor |
| 06:21:18 | <docpaul> burke is one of the smartest people i've ever met |
| 06:21:41 | <docpaul> he borders on genius, actually. :) |
| 06:22:07 | <r0bby> docpaul: thought that was groovy |
| 06:22:21 | <r0bby> docpaul: burke and I are the only groovy coders w/ openmrs :) |
| 06:22:29 | <r0bby> Burke is quite intelligent :) |
| 06:22:42 | <r0bby> Wish I learned more from his genius last summer :( |
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| 06:23:59 | <r0bby> docpaul: I will say this, I hope (if Mkop2 gets selected, i'm pretty sure he will be selected; just a hunch) burke allocates more time for soc |
| 06:24:20 | <pakon> i have an oftopic question :) |
| 06:24:39 | <pakon> who in chat are gsocer? |
| 06:24:44 | <Mkop2> pakon: #openmrs never discusses offtopic stuff. You'll have to find another place :-P |
| 06:24:45 | * r0bby is |
| 06:24:50 | <docpaul> to be fair... and this isn't meant to be mean... you require a lot of time. :) |
| 06:24:59 | <r0bby> yeh :P |
| 06:25:24 | <r0bby> I dunno if i got in over my head w/ groovy forms |
| 06:25:43 | <nribeka> pakon: all the non op are gsocer |
| 06:25:47 | <r0bby> I can't quite figure it out, but i plan to finish it (Darius gave me a bunch of ideas from Htmlformentry module) |
| 06:25:58 | <docpaul> not all, but a good portion are |
| 06:26:06 | <nribeka> except me :D |
| 06:26:09 | <docpaul> irc isn't as popular as our mailing lists |
| 06:26:23 | <docpaul> nri: good point, you need to be promoted. :) |
| 06:26:34 | <sdefabbiakane> pakon: I am |
| 06:26:40 | <nribeka> haha thanks docpaul :D |
| 06:26:41 | <r0bby> docpaul: one thing that i will say: groovyforms _WILL_ be finished |
| 06:27:00 | <nribeka> i would love to be promoted hahaha |
| 06:27:00 | <nribeka> :D |
| 06:27:04 | <r0bby> and if selected for summer of code, you will _NOT_ have another groovyforms |
| 06:27:24 | <nribeka> can i be an op so i can kick r0bby sometimes ... lol :D |
| 06:27:25 | <nribeka> j/k r0bby |
| 06:27:35 | <r0bby> meh |
| 06:27:48 | <Mkop2> docpaul: /mode +v nribeka |
| 06:27:54 | * r0bby sighs |
| 06:28:19 | <docpaul> i need to remember how chanserv works |
| 06:28:51 | <r0bby> docpaul: how much will my 2008 project...failure weigh against me for soc2009 |
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| 06:29:00 | <r0bby> ie do i stand chance even |
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| 06:30:16 | * pakon eating mmm... food :) |
| 06:30:18 | <r0bby> docpaul: last summer i had a lot of printouts -- every email burke sent, etc :) (some of the tags (conceptForm etc) |
| 06:30:32 | <r0bby> the stack was quite thick |
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| 06:32:41 | <docpaul> leave and come back wyn |
| 06:32:48 | <docpaul> i think i got it |
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| 06:33:16 | <nribeka1> i need to leave first docpaul? |
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| 06:33:23 | <docpaul> yeah |
| 06:33:45 | <r0bby> so paul, how much of a chance to actually stand; ie should i withdraw my application entirely :/ |
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| 06:34:09 | <docpaul> not sure rob... of course i'll advocate for you, but that's up to the lead mentor |
| 06:34:41 | <r0bby> The project failure will definitely hurt me that much I know |
| 06:35:14 | <docpaul> why not work on making it a success from your perspective then? :) |
| 06:35:27 | <r0bby> I have classes :P |
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| 06:35:42 | <openmrs_3091> docpaul, the nribeka is still here |
| 06:35:53 | <docpaul> ah |
| 06:35:53 | <r0bby> docpaul: thing is: the system theoretically works |
| 06:35:56 | <openmrs_3091> i think it's need sometime to disconnected from the server |
| 06:36:08 | <r0bby> it's connecting the dots so to speak |
| 06:36:24 | <openmrs_3091> you can kick him |
| 06:36:24 | <docpaul> cant you use nickserv and kill it? |
| 06:36:39 | <docpaul> are you registered with nickserv? |
| 06:36:41 | <r0bby> not sure how well the rendering taglibs will work; i'm looking into using widgets similar to the way darius does |
| 06:36:51 | <r0bby> plugging into the forms api |
| 06:36:52 | <openmrs_3091> the nribeka is registered |
| 06:36:59 | <docpaul> r0bby: the last 10 percent is always the most important |
| 06:37:06 | <r0bby> I know |
| 06:37:16 | <r0bby> I also need to at some pt get templates working |
| 06:37:28 | <r0bby> i went the way of a nasty hack |
| 06:37:39 | <openmrs_3091> can't you kick him docpaul? |
| 06:37:40 | <r0bby> the generation method is quite hideous |
| 06:37:47 | *** nribeka was kicked by docpaul (docpaul) |
| 06:37:52 | <Mkop2> nribeka: so you need to /nickserv identify as nribeka, then /nickserv ghost nribeka |
| 06:38:01 | <docpaul> at this point, i'd hack away... and focus on getting something real to look at |
| 06:38:06 | <openmrs_3091> hahaha ... take that nribeka |
| 06:38:20 | <docpaul> the nick will still be used though |
| 06:38:33 | <docpaul> until you get nickserv to kill it |
| 06:38:41 | <Mkop2> I told you the command |
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| 06:38:53 | <Mkop2> it's /msg nickserv ghost nribeka |
| 06:39:41 | <r0bby> http://pastie.org/433540 |
| 06:39:46 | <r0bby> that's the code to generate the view |
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| 06:40:33 | <nribeka1> aha ... |
| 06:40:46 | <docpaul> there you are. :) |
| 06:40:52 | <docpaul> i should do the same for upul |
| 06:41:01 | <nribeka1> yes and sunbiz |
| 06:41:15 | <jmiranda> all apologies to openmrs_3091 |
| 06:41:27 | <r0bby> dont! |
| 06:41:30 | <r0bby> he had it coming |
| 06:41:32 | <docpaul> done |
| 06:41:32 | <nribeka1> hahaha ... |
| 06:41:34 | <r0bby> he stole my wallet! |
| 06:41:41 | <nribeka1> jmiranda: you're so mean |
| 06:41:42 | <nribeka1> :D |
| 06:41:48 | <docpaul> many successes from last year's gsoc |
| 06:41:49 | <docpaul> :) |
| 06:41:55 | <r0bby> minus me |
| 06:41:56 | <docpaul> hi justin, and goodnight justin |
| 06:41:58 | <docpaul> :) |
| 06:42:01 | <nribeka1> brb |
| 06:42:02 | * r0bby takes that hard. |
| 06:42:03 | <docpaul> i'm going to hit the sack |
| 06:42:03 | <r0bby> :( |
| 06:42:09 | <r0bby> I should too |
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| 06:42:13 | <jmiranda> goodnight docpaul |
| 06:42:20 | <docpaul> for someone who takes it hard, you sure dont do much to remedy it? :) |
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| 06:42:37 | <nribeka> woohoo :D |
| 06:42:44 | <r0bby> docpaul: sure, let me tank my GPA for groovyforms :) |
| 06:42:56 | <r0bby> sorry, shouldn't be sarcastic |
| 06:43:14 | <r0bby> docpaul: actually i'm working on it when i can :0 |
| 06:43:14 | <docpaul> oh please... if you spent half the time you do hanging on this channel in your ide, the stuff would be operational before you knew it |
| 06:43:16 | <docpaul> :) |
| 06:43:31 | <docpaul> that isnt going to work with me in your case. :D |
| 06:43:34 | <r0bby> thank god I dont have IntelliIRC in it :) |
| 06:43:42 | <r0bby> good pt |
| 06:44:00 | <r0bby> docpaul: although Mon, Wed, Thurs, Fri I'm @ school and sometimes log in :) |
| 06:44:09 | <r0bby> during the day |
| 06:44:16 | <r0bby> but i should do it |
| 06:44:29 | <r0bby> I'm gonna do it some def. work this weekend :) |
| 06:44:50 | <docpaul> hey, we appreciate however you are able to contribute and be a part... but i never understood why you beat yourself up as much as you do, yet not fix the problem that you uniquely are qualified to fix. :) |
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| 06:45:32 | <r0bby> true |
| 06:45:48 | <docpaul> maybe you could stop playing the part of a failed student with a few hours of effort. :) |
| 06:46:09 | <docpaul> because i know you can do it. :) |
| 06:46:14 | <r0bby> I know I can too |
| 06:46:27 | <r0bby> I need to figure out what the hell is going on |
| 06:46:33 | <r0bby> w/ groovy crapping itself |
| 06:46:34 | <docpaul> yep. :) |
| 06:46:46 | <r0bby> (groovy module needs to follow groovy forms |
| 06:46:50 | <docpaul> well anyways, best to you all... i'm splitting sheets now |
| 06:46:55 | <r0bby> that much i know (its groovy jar needs to be identical) |
| 06:47:32 | <r0bby> I think i'll add functionality of groovy module into groovyforms; the two installed could cause some non-deterministic behavior |
| 06:47:48 | <r0bby> (since classpath is shared among all loaded modules (two groovy jars is not a good thing) |
| 06:47:55 | <nribeka> when are you going to be on irc again docpaul? |
| 06:47:55 | <Mkop2> good night, docpaul |
| 06:48:11 | <nribeka> good night docpaul |
| 06:48:13 | <Mkop2> you're not even gone yet, and already people are missing you :-) |
| 06:48:27 | <r0bby> paul is amazing :) |
| 06:48:46 | <nribeka> hahaha ... you need to see docpaul on person Mkop2 |
| 06:48:57 | <r0bby> he's a giant |
| 06:49:09 | <Mkop2> I saw a bit of the video |
| 06:49:11 | <Mkop2> !googlevideo |
| 06:49:11 | <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: "googlevideo" --- Presentation on OpenMRS done at Google HQ: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5181254373166129293 |
| 06:49:24 | <r0bby> !info googlevideo |
| 06:49:24 | <OpenMRSBot> r0bby: Error: The command "info" is available in the Factoids and RSS plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "info". |
| 06:50:02 | <Mkop2> !factoids info googlevideo |
| 06:50:02 | <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 06:50:10 | <Mkop2> hehe |
| 06:50:20 | <Mkop2> !factoids info techspeak |
| 06:50:21 | <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: Error: No factoid matches that key. |
| 06:50:25 | <Mkop2> !facts |
| 06:50:25 | <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: 'tabcomplete', '', 'privatemessage', 'gsocfaq', 'overview', 'googlevideo', 'techtalk', 'techtalkwhois', 'openmrs docpaul', 'docpaul', 'burke', 'time', 'projects', 'gettingstarted', 'boom', 'sunbiz', 'irclogs', 'bwolfe', 'atomicturtle', 'irclog', 'runtimeproperties', 'privatemessages', 'checkdigit', 'extensionpoints', 'newticket', 'junit', 'gsoctemplate', 'irssi', 'model', 'trivial', 'modules', 'logs', (2 more messages) |
| 06:50:33 | <nribeka> omg what happen to my eclipse :( |
| 06:50:35 | <Mkop2> !factoids info techtalk |
| 06:50:35 | <OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: Key "techtalk" is not locked and has 1 factoid associated with it: #1 was added by bwolfe at 06:08 PM, March 27, 2008 |
| 06:51:03 | <Mkop2> nribeka: what happened? |
| 06:51:11 | <r0bby> ahh |
| 06:51:17 | <r0bby> !checkdigit |
| 06:51:17 | <OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "checkdigit" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Check_Digit_Algorithm |
| 06:51:47 | <nribeka> in my other laptop i only got ganymede and somehow subclipse is not working properly here |
| 06:52:02 | <nribeka> huhuhu ... it's all because of that charger |
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| 06:54:31 | <Mkop2> gmail autopilot: http://mail.google.com/mail/help/autopilot/index.html |
| 06:54:33 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/35HW> (at mail.google.com) |
| 06:54:53 | <Mkop2> (pay attention to today's date :-) ) |
| 06:55:15 | <r0bby> google always comes up w/ the craziest shit |
| 06:56:35 | <r0bby> What happens if a sender and recipient both have Autopilot on? |
| 06:56:36 | <r0bby> Two Gmail accounts can happily converse with each other for up to three messages each. Beyond that, our experiments have shown a significant decline in the quality ranking of Autopilot's responses and further messages may commit you to dinner parties or baby namings in which you have no interest. |
| 06:56:42 | <r0bby> LOL |
| 06:57:17 | <r0bby> ok april fools -- life blows -- i must sleep |
| 06:57:23 | <sdefabbiakane> ah sleep |
| 06:57:28 | <nribeka> haha |
| 06:57:30 | <sdefabbiakane> wish I was doing that |
| 06:57:36 | <sdefabbiakane> night, r0bby |
| 06:58:41 | <nribeka> night r0bby |
| 07:00:15 | <nribeka> ah finally got it working again |
| 07:03:04 | <r0bby> If i bitch again, slap me less bitching more coding |
| 07:03:27 | <nribeka> that's my blog tagline r0bby |
| 07:03:43 | <nribeka> !ticket 725 |
| 07:03:43 | <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: Ticket #725: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/725 |
| 07:05:43 | <r0bby> alrighty |
| 07:10:15 | <pakon> docpaul: all db dumps has empty obs table :( |
| 07:11:26 | <r0bby> http://kotaku.com/5192983/the-cruelest-april-fools-joke-in-japan |
| 07:11:28 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/35IL> (at kotaku.com) |
| 07:12:50 | <sdefabbiakane> oh wow |
| 07:13:41 | <Mkop2> haha |
| 07:13:54 | <Mkop2> any of you use chrome? go to about:internets |
| 07:14:37 | <pakon> Mkop2: empty page |
| 07:14:40 | <Mkop2> pakon: docpaul is sleeping |
| 07:14:44 | <sdefabbiakane> I might...if they had a linux version |
| 07:14:53 | <sdefabbiakane> what's there? |
| 07:15:25 | <Mkop2> In Google Chrome, Google's Web Browser, entering "about:internets" into the address bar brings up a copy of the Windows Screen Saver 3D Pipes, with the title "Don't Clog the Tubes". In the event that this does not occur due to the fact that the screensaver file does not exist in the system, the browser will instead display a gray screen with the title "The Tubes are Clogged!" |
| 07:15:38 | <pakon> Mkop2: can you help me with sample data? |
| 07:15:39 | <Mkop2> from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google's_hoaxes |
| 07:15:49 | <sdefabbiakane> aha |
| 07:16:14 | <Mkop2> pakon: I screwed up my database today trying to put sample data |
| 07:16:14 | <Mkop2> so I'm probably not the best person to help |
| 07:16:19 | <Mkop2> it's also 3:15 my time which means I don't have the mental energy to figure it out |
| 07:17:20 | <pakon> ok |
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| 10:57:24 | <sunbiz> hey guys |
| 10:57:35 | <sunbiz> !seen sunbiz |
| 10:57:35 | <OpenMRSBot> sunbiz: sunbiz was last seen in #openmrs 10 seconds ago: <sunbiz> hey guys |
| 10:57:43 | <upul> Hi sunbiz |
| 10:57:51 | <sunbiz> hi upul |
| 10:58:28 | <sunbiz> upul: which project have u chosen ?? |
| 10:59:10 | <upul> nothing in particular :-) |
| 10:59:47 | <sunbiz> which one is ur fav ?? ;) |
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| 11:08:50 | <sunbiz> hey docpaul |
| 11:09:12 | <sunbiz> first time I see u in this room :) |
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| 11:22:41 | <sdefabbiakane> sunbiz: I think he's sleeping. he was on last night. |
| 11:24:12 | <sunbiz> yea |
| 11:24:37 | <sunbiz> its been over a year or so... its the first time I though I'll get him on the IRC ;) |
| 11:24:46 | <sunbiz> *thought |
| 11:24:58 | <sdefabbiakane> heh |
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| 12:20:52 | * pakon classes |
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| 13:06:43 | <docpaul> hi sunny. :) |
| 13:09:45 | <sunbiz> docpaul: hi paul |
| 13:10:22 | <docpaul> so are you working with Sundeep these days? |
| 13:10:32 | <docpaul> 'Sundeep = good friend of mine |
| 13:10:43 | <docpaul> Sundeep Sahay |
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| 13:14:21 | <sunbiz> yes |
| 13:14:24 | <sunbiz> do u know him |
| 13:14:34 | <sunbiz> hez from the Univ of Oslo |
| 13:14:35 | <docpaul> quite well, we have spent time together in person |
| 13:14:51 | <sunbiz> gr8 |
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| 13:27:01 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1376 (defect created): Flowsheet Error Handling needed for no concept description <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1376> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7239]: guids: Removed unused sql files <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7239> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7238]: guids: Quick fix for the build path and eclipse project file <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7238> |
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| 13:31:49 | <bwolfe> I hate april fools day |
| 13:32:02 | <bwolfe> I can't trust any news headlines |
| 13:32:31 | <bwolfe> I see one and think "Wow! They did that!?!? Thats awesome!" and just as I'm clicking on it I remember its the First of April. :-( |
| 13:33:17 | <nribeka1> can i put comment on trac that will fool you bwolfe :D |
| 13:34:19 | <bwolfe> NoooO! any april fooling happening in our trac will result in your username getting "misplaced" until April 2nd |
| 13:34:22 | <bwolfe> of 2010 |
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| 13:34:31 | <bwolfe> :-) |
| 13:34:36 | <nribeka1> lol |
| 13:34:55 | <ajitlodhi> hi paul...nice to see u back.. |
| 13:35:00 | <ajitlodhi> :) |
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| 13:43:21 | <nribeka1> last night someone (was it r0bby or someone else) mention about gmail autopilot bwolfe |
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| 13:56:49 | <nribeka1> bwolfe, the hibernate is v325 from tags right? |
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| 14:01:36 | <bwolfe> nribeka1: yeah, plus that last patch I put on the ticket |
| 14:02:47 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: any idea why getLocale() breaks my spring? |
| 14:03:08 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: because it creates a race condition with the service reloading ? |
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| 14:08:11 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: seems to work fine if i dont make that call in methods rather than globally |
| 14:08:18 | <Keelhaul> err -dont |
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| 14:24:16 | <andrewaclt> Does anybody know anything about Bojko Bakalov as a professor? |
| 14:26:37 | <Keelhaul> nope sorry |
| 14:26:54 | <andrewaclt> Yeah, long shot since it's a Math prof. |
| 14:27:00 | <Keelhaul> heh |
| 14:27:20 | <Keelhaul> well most people here have had some math classes i guess |
| 14:27:30 | <andrewaclt> probably not MA407 |
| 14:27:44 | <Keelhaul> hmm yea, seems like using getLocale when assigning a value to a global variable seems to break spring |
| 14:27:51 | <Keelhaul> i wish i could add that to the wiki somehow |
| 14:27:54 | <andrewaclt> wtf |
| 14:27:57 | <andrewaclt> I'm in the wrong channel |
| 14:27:59 | <andrewaclt> sorry |
| 14:27:59 | <Keelhaul> but i dont know where and how to describe it |
| 14:28:01 | <Keelhaul> lol |
| 14:29:15 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1268 (task closed): Update Demo Data on Downloads page <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1268#comment:2> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1379 (task created): Guids Branch: Create Liquibase xml for Guid Additions <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1379> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1378 (task created): Guids Branch: Take out All References to Synchronization <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1378> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1377 (task created): Guids Branch : Unit Test cleanup <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1377> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7240]: guids: removed compilation errors, but doesn't deploy yet. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7240> |
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| 14:32:34 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: you can add it to one of the "troubleshooting" pages |
| 14:33:23 | <Keelhaul> ok |
| 14:39:47 | <Mkop2> I keep vascillating between "regexes are the best thing to ever grace this planet" and "regexes should burn in hell" |
| 14:40:04 | <Mkop2> currently I'm on the hell side of things |
| 14:41:26 | <bwolfe> vascillating Mkop2 ? |
| 14:41:32 | <bwolfe> is that similar to oscillating ? |
| 14:41:41 | <Mkop2> vascillating means switching back and forth |
| 14:41:42 | <bwolfe> except maybe with some vasiline ? |
| 14:42:33 | <bwolfe> so it does. vocab lesson #1 for the day. :-) |
| 14:42:56 | <Mkop2> bwolfe: you've learned your new thing for the day. you can go back to sleep now. |
| 14:43:14 | <bwolfe> sweet |
| 14:46:14 | <Mkop2> bwolfe: how many hours a day do you work on openmrs? it seems like it must be quite a heck of a lot |
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| 14:48:12 | <bwolfe> Mkop2: well, there are approx 9 hours a day in the office... |
| 14:48:22 | <bwolfe> Mkop2: and then usually an hour or so at home |
| 14:48:27 | <bwolfe> Mkop2: and maybe a few hours on the weekend |
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| 14:48:58 | <bwolfe> but just because I'm in IRC doesn't mean I'm working (although my wife disagrees) |
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| 14:49:02 | <Mkop2> lol |
| 14:49:38 | <bmckown> Mkop2, God's answer to regular expressions: http://burkeware.com/software/regex_playground.html |
| 14:49:40 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/35NH> (at burkeware.com) |
| 14:49:45 | <bmckown> it's great! |
| 14:50:02 | <bmckown> i use it almost every time i need a good regular expression. |
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| 14:51:04 | <Mkop2> my regex is currently 248 characters long |
| 14:51:09 | <Mkop2> and includes around 17 groups |
| 14:51:17 | <bwolfe> burkeware can't be trusted. that guy has no scruples. I'm sure its all virus infected and what not. :-p |
| 14:51:24 | <bwolfe> Mkop2: ew |
| 14:51:32 | <Mkop2> Apache log analyzer |
| 14:51:34 | <bwolfe> at some point your head will explode, just so you know |
| 14:51:49 | <bwolfe> Mkop2: whats wrong with using a program that does that already ? |
| 14:52:01 | <Mkop2> my python professor wouldn't really go for that |
| 14:52:14 | <Mkop2> hehe |
| 14:52:18 | <Mkop2> that would be funny |
| 14:52:22 | <bwolfe> webalizer, awstats |
| 14:52:23 | <bwolfe> etc :-) |
| 14:52:27 | <Mkop2> submit a python program that calls an external app |
| 14:52:33 | <Mkop2> "Hey, it runs in python, doesn't it?" |
| 14:53:10 | <Mkop2> don't you know? intro programming classes are all about reinventing the wheel |
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| 14:58:44 | <bwolfe> yeah, thats funny Mkop2. as soon as you get into the real world its about NOT reinventing the wheel |
| 15:00:02 | <Mkop2> my regex doesn't work in burke's thingy |
| 15:00:09 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1380 (task created): Guids Branch: A new Schedule Task to Generate Guids <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1380> |
| 15:00:12 | <Mkop2> and... I'm late for class |
| 15:00:14 | <Mkop2> darn it |
| 15:00:18 | <Mkop2> I don't want to go |
| 15:00:20 | <Mkop2> but I have to |
| 15:00:22 | <Mkop2> oh well |
| 15:11:13 | <andrewaclt> they don't use python in any class here :( |
| 15:13:52 | <bwolfe> that sucks for you andrewaclt. python rocks |
| 15:15:27 | <Mkop2> I find it really strange that python, which is a such a readable, friendly language uses regexes which are powerful but ugly as Guido van Rossum's mother |
| 15:15:43 | <andrewaclt> regex is powerful |
| 15:17:14 | <Mkop2> true, indeed |
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| 15:21:20 | <Mkop2> powerful enough to scare off even Guido van Rossum's mother |
| 15:22:19 | <andrewaclt> But yes, the only thing uglier than regex is binary floating point addition. |
| 15:22:27 | <andrewaclt> :) |
| 15:23:14 | <Mkop2> but no one is nuts enough to think that that's actually a useful tool |
| 15:23:47 | <andrewaclt> lol |
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| 15:31:22 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1383 (defect created): Google Maps Image Viewer - Error while starting module gmapsimageviewer <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1383> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1382 (task created): Guids Branch: Add calls to setGuid() for all objects in all saveObject(Object) service methods <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1382> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1381 (task created): Guids Branch: Add get/set guid to base openmrs object <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1381> |
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| 15:37:21 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: troubleshooting tomcat/openmrs are two candidates |
| 15:37:23 | <Keelhaul> not sure which one |
| 15:37:44 | <Keelhaul> it's openmrs (module) code that breaks it |
| 15:37:51 | <Keelhaul> but all of tomcat stops responding |
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| 15:53:27 | <Mkop2> aaaaaaa!!!!! |
| 15:53:47 | <Mkop2> python ide crashing should NOT erase what I had previously put in the clipboard |
| 15:56:37 | <andrewaclt> weird. |
| 15:59:00 | <Mkop2> I think IDLE uses some kind of strange format of its clipboard stuff |
| 15:59:07 | <Mkop2> tried pasting into notepad and it hung |
| 15:59:15 | <Mkop2> is hanging* |
| 15:59:26 | <andrewaclt> Is that a windows IDE for python? |
| 15:59:34 | <Mkop2> yep |
| 15:59:38 | <andrewaclt> oh |
| 16:00:10 | <Mkop2> generally pretty good IDE |
| 16:00:24 | <Mkop2> my main complaint is that you can't use up/down arrows to scroll through previous commands |
| 16:00:33 | <andrewaclt> weird |
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| 16:28:56 | <isurundt> hi all.. |
| 16:29:34 | <isurundt> anyone were able to contact Dave Thomas? |
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| 16:48:45 | <jmiranda> isurundt: i can contact him |
| 16:50:58 | <isurundt> jmiranda:i sent himan email two days ago. but didn't get a reply.. |
| 16:51:15 | <jmiranda> ok |
| 16:51:29 | <jmiranda> he's a developer at one our sites (in peru) |
| 16:51:51 | <jmiranda> i'll check in with him |
| 16:52:01 | <jmiranda> isurundt: what was the email about? |
| 16:52:42 | <isurundt> jmiranda:it is about the global property project types he is mentoring for gsoc |
| 16:53:14 | <isurundt> *global property types project |
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| 16:55:59 | <jmiranda> isurundt: i'll contact you over skype with more info |
| 16:59:23 | <bwolfe> vanmh and kchen : welcome. I'm assuming you're here about gsoc. do you have any questions we can answer? :-) |
| 17:03:09 | <vanmh> bwolfe: I'm a developer on the mifos project (micro finance open source), just listening in to get a feel for your irc channel after talking with jmiranda about openmrs... |
| 17:03:16 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1367 (enhancement closed): Add note about not requiring username when creating user <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1367#comment:4> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7241]: Adding comment to user form about username/system id login - #1367 Author: ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7241> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1367 (enhancement created): Add note about not requiring username when creating user <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1367> |
| 17:03:59 | <vanmh> bwolfe: thanks for the welcome :-) |
| 17:04:22 | <jmiranda> hey vanmh ... welcome |
| 17:04:24 | <bwolfe> vanmh: ah, cool. I don't retract my "welcome", but I do retract my offer of help with gsoc. :-) |
| 17:04:53 | <jmiranda> bwolfe: actually they might need some advice from a gsoc pro mentor like yourself |
| 17:05:07 | <jmiranda> mifos was accepted into gsoc |
| 17:05:22 | <jmiranda> it's their rookie year |
| 17:05:29 | <kchen> Hi everyone |
| 17:05:39 | <bwolfe> ah, congrats vanmh ! |
| 17:06:02 | <bwolfe> jmiranda: you're more the mentor pro than me. Last year was my first year to have a successful student! :-p |
| 17:06:13 | <bwolfe> kchen: are you here for gsoc ? |
| 17:06:14 | <vanmh> bwolfe: thanks :-) |
| 17:06:29 | <kchen> Yes, I'm interested in gsoc, figured this could be a good place to narrow down what projects I'm capable of doing |
| 17:06:59 | <jmiranda> kchen: what do you like (re: projects) so far? |
| 17:07:16 | <vanmh> bwolfe, jmiranda: just planning to listen and learn... |
| 17:07:32 | <kchen> I was interested in the "longitudinal data review" |
| 17:07:55 | <kchen> and there was one related to genomic data as well |
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| 17:08:29 | <kchen> But I don't see it on the list anymore |
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| 17:08:49 | <kchen> (actually, nevermind. its further down) |
| 17:08:50 | <jmiranda> kchen: cool. any specific questions? |
| 17:08:54 | <bwolfe> kchen: the genomic one was more like a 9-12 month project, so we moved it :-p |
| 17:11:46 | <kchen> For the Data Review, I'm curious how one might go about to determine which values are more important than others |
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| 17:12:11 | <kchen> also, some might be better represented as graphs (blood pressures, etc) |
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| 17:12:37 | <kchen> Also I know various physicians in different specialties seem to care more about certain values than others |
| 17:13:30 | <kchen> Are these considerations relevant to the project, or is the goal more about getting the numbers presented in a clean manner? |
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| 17:21:16 | <bwolfe> kchen: hmm, unfortunately I'm not up on that project |
| 17:21:31 | <jmiranda> kchen: i was just going to say the same thing |
| 17:21:35 | <bwolfe> kchen: docpaul should be though. if he gets a minute he might be able to explain some things about it |
| 17:21:42 | <jmiranda> i think those are definitely good considerations |
| 17:23:49 | <jmiranda> and it would be good to elaborate on any issues, risks, features, assumptions in your proposal |
| 17:24:06 | <kchen> That's a good idea. |
| 17:24:22 | <jmiranda> kchen: if you show some domain knowledge about the problem |
| 17:24:26 | <kchen> I'm rather new on writing proposals |
| 17:24:40 | <jmiranda> that will give your reviewers a sense that you know what you're talking about |
| 17:25:00 | <jmiranda> and will be able to think of difficulties and assumptions that we haven't already thought of |
| 17:26:03 | * Mkop2 's head is about to explode from regexes and unhelpful people in #python |
| 17:26:11 | <kchen> I see. Since both of you have been working on openmrs for some time now. Who are the primary users of the system? |
| 17:26:57 | <kchen> Am I able to make generalizations? Some of the projects "role-based homepage" seemed to suggest that its quite diverse. |
| 17:27:32 | <kchen> Physicians, administrators, and other health-care workers all interact on the system (which makes sense) |
| 17:28:20 | <Mkop2> actually, I take back my comment about #python. They're actually discussing my question not just ignoring it |
| 17:28:23 | <kchen> I guess I should assume that those who look at the lab data would be physicians |
| 17:28:33 | <kchen> ? |
| 17:28:50 | * bwolfe wants to point out that he pointed out the exploding head problem earlier |
| 17:28:52 | <bwolfe> :-) |
| 17:29:00 | <kchen> And projects such as "quartz schedules" would be more applicable for administrative roles? |
| 17:29:33 | <bwolfe> kchen: yeah, it would be phsycians or statisticians probably |
| 17:30:37 | <kchen> statisticians... didn't think about them. |
| 17:30:51 | <kchen> But it'd make sense |
| 17:31:09 | <Mkop2> note to professor: regexes are NOT supposed to be used for finding data that's not always in the same place. |
| 17:33:42 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #634 (defect closed): Unlabeled symptom durations in Encounter view <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/634#comment:9> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1327 (task closed): Add Provider option to getEncounters method <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1327#comment:2> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7242]: Added a provider option to the many method getEncounters service method - ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7242> |
| 17:33:56 | <bwolfe> Mkop2: sure it is. as long as its surrounded by the same things |
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| 18:14:31 | <pakon> hi all |
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| 18:43:06 | <Keelhaul> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3472/3398960470_05527c04b1_b.jpg |
| 18:43:08 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/35Rw> (at farm4.static.flickr.com) |
| 18:45:04 | <bwolfe> thats hilarious |
| 18:46:32 | <nribeka> haha that's funny Keelhaul |
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| 19:01:56 | <deltazero> hi, i am interested in applying to join the project via GSoC, are there any project members available to talk to? |
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| 19:04:10 | <bwolfe> deltazero: anyone with a green dot next to their name (the operators) |
| 19:05:20 | <deltazero> bwolfe: thx, can I pm you? |
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| 19:08:30 | <bwolfe> deltazero: I prefer as much conversation as possible to be in the public channel. that way others can help and others can benefit |
| 19:08:37 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1384 (task closed): Error converting parameters for call to DWRProgramWorkflowService.getStatesByWorkflow in Cohort Builder (in 1.4.x but not in trunk) <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1384#comment:2> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7243]: 1.4.x branch: Fixing #1384 (Error converting parameters for call to ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7243> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1384 (task created): Error converting parameters for call to DWRProgramWorkflowService.getStatesByWorkflow in Cohort Builder (in 1.4.x but not in trunk) <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1384> |
| 19:08:44 | <bwolfe> deltazero: if there is something that is private, then yes, a pm is fine |
| 19:08:45 | <deltazero> thanks |
| 19:10:14 | <Keelhaul> and by green dot bwolfe means @ |
| 19:10:15 | <Keelhaul> =) |
| 19:12:54 | <nribeka> pidgin have different icon :D |
| 19:13:08 | <bwolfe> deltazero: were there specific projects you were looking at ? |
| 19:13:22 | <deltazero> on the GSoC ideas page, i am interested in the serialization service project and was wondering how much hidden depth this project would have, as it does seem quite straight forward from the brief |
| 19:13:40 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul / nribeka : everyone should just use the same program and life would be easier. ...and that program should of course be xchat! ;-) |
| 19:13:59 | <bwolfe> deltazero: no hidden depth. It really is that straight forward :-p |
| 19:14:17 | <bwolfe> deltazero: it used to have more depth...until a current developer did the first half of it for another project he was working on :-/ |
| 19:14:50 | <nribeka> hahahaha xchat bwolfe? i have pidgin for everything. except skype |
| 19:14:54 | <deltazero> bwolfe: would it be worth applying to take on two projects or is that not necessary? |
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| 19:15:43 | <bwolfe> nribeka: I don't use pidgin...mainly because I only use skype and xchat :-p |
| 19:16:07 | <bwolfe> deltazero: not necessary. if you finish early, you can write more unit tests than normal :-p |
| 19:16:23 | <bwolfe> deltazero: or if you finish really really early we can give you another project, no worries. :-) |
| 19:17:21 | <deltazero> bwolfe: thanks, I will look at writing my application |
| 19:17:41 | <bwolfe> !refer deltazero [bwolfesays] |
| 19:17:41 | * OpenMRSBot refers deltazero to "bwolfesays" --- FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to |
| 19:17:46 | <bwolfe> and |
| 19:17:54 | <bwolfe> !refer deltazero [bwolfealsosays] |
| 19:17:54 | * OpenMRSBot refers deltazero to "bwolfealsosays" --- To greatly increase your chances of getting accepted by openmrs you should demonstrate your knowledge/skills in both java and potentially openmrs. The best way to do that is to finish a few small tickets. Type !trivialtickets and !introtickets for links to some that we have defined. |
| 19:18:10 | <bwolfe> all gsoccers that come to irc get those two bonus tips deltazero :-) |
| 19:18:30 | <nribeka> lots of people applying here ;) |
| 19:18:41 | <nribeka> i love phd comic and geek hero |
| 19:18:51 | <nribeka> awesome stuff :D |
| 19:20:53 | <deltazero> bwolfe: thankyou |
| 19:21:11 | <deltazero> !introtickets |
| 19:21:11 | <OpenMRSBot> deltazero: "introtickets" --- http://dev.openmrs.org/report/20 |
| 19:25:37 | <pakon> bwolfe: i have done my changes of Settings Page mockup http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/502300/gsoc/go4.png |
| 19:26:08 | <pakon> now it like firefox about:config http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/502300/gsoc/ff-config.png |
| 19:26:11 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/35So> (at dl.getdropbox.com) |
| 19:27:18 | <bwolfe> pakon: oooo, I like the default value / changed value thing. Not sure how we'll keep track of that though. I suppose we could add another column to the global property table for "default_value" |
| 19:28:28 | <bwolfe> pakon: I actually prefer eclipse's way of filtering: there is one box on the top left that returns anything that matches (name, value, description, etc) |
| 19:29:21 | <pakon> hm, only one filter is more complex |
| 19:31:18 | <pakon> imho, one filter per collumn is intuitively |
| 19:39:44 | <r0bby> I <3 xkcd |
| 19:39:52 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7244]: reporting-sprint: Merging trunk into reporting-sprint branch [7196]:[7242] <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7244> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1385 (task created): Changing workflow states on dashboard fails silently if date is blank or before date of start of current state <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1385> |
| 19:40:16 | <Keelhaul> hmm |
| 19:40:23 | <Keelhaul> new error when running module unit tests |
| 19:40:24 | <Keelhaul> http://rafb.net/p/TPwPmc51.html |
| 19:40:38 | <Keelhaul> did the recent merge break somethinh |
| 19:41:09 | <Keelhaul> Error creating bean with name 'serializationService' defined in class path resource [applicationContext-service.xml] |
| 19:44:23 | <r0bby> looks like a classpath problem |
| 19:44:48 | <Keelhaul> thast what i thought |
| 19:44:51 | <Keelhaul> but i dont see any =/ |
| 19:45:07 | <r0bby> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.thoughtworks.xstream.io.HierarchicalStreamDriver |
| 19:45:17 | <Keelhaul> ah hm |
| 19:45:21 | <r0bby> it can't find the xstream jar apparently |
| 19:45:46 | <r0bby> but as to _WHY_... hmm i have no idea |
| 19:45:58 | <r0bby> xstream has always been in trunk, i *THINK* so anyways |
| 19:46:48 | <Keelhaul> yes, that was the problem, thx |
| 19:47:00 | <Keelhaul> now it's back to the old problem where it cant find my xml file lol |
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| 19:47:56 | <greendots> Hi |
| 19:48:24 | <Keelhaul> hi |
| 19:50:45 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: =) |
| 19:53:09 | <Keelhaul> does it look for the xml datafile in the omod? |
| 20:00:11 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: xml files are loaded from the classpath by dbunit |
| 20:03:33 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: i found the problem |
| 20:03:59 | <Keelhaul> the package with the xml was named "include" instead of the full package name |
| 20:08:08 | <pakon> docpaul: i am trying to restore demo-....sql and this takes a wery long time |
| 20:10:08 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7245]: --chica * Modify view encounters from admin page to redirect to a ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7245> |
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| 20:23:57 | <pakon> bwolfe: can we add new global properties at the GP Page? |
| 20:26:05 | <pakon> If it is true than we must edit possible values for List Item type etc. |
| 20:39:41 | * pakon want to sleep |
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| 20:41:07 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7246]: -- sockethl7listener * Changed how resolved patient is created and added ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7246> |
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| 21:08:41 | <Keelhaul> germany - wales 2-0 heh |
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| 21:24:20 | <Agnor> hi |
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| 21:32:29 | <burke> #join gsoc |
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| 21:36:24 | <bmckown> hey remember last year when we all changed our nicks to be doc_ ?? |
| 21:37:14 | * bmckown noticing that the ops section is more populated than usual. |
| 21:37:50 | <nathanael> *working on my application* |
| 21:38:07 | <bmckown> cool! :-) |
| 21:39:20 | <bmckown> last year the ops present changed our nicks to be docburke docbwolfe docbmckown.. eh, guess u guys don't remember. it was funny at the time. |
| 21:41:00 | <bwolfe> bmckown: I remember |
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| 21:41:48 | * docben wonders how many people will now think we are all doctors |
| 21:42:31 | * docbrian searches google on how to protect himself from malpractice |
| 21:42:57 | <Keelhaul> you arent good enough at golf to be real doctors |
| 21:43:32 | <docbrian> i've been discovered. i don't golf. ben would pass the test though |
| 21:44:11 | <docben> I do play golf, yes...but that doesn't mean I would pass any kind of test :-p |
| 21:44:26 | <docben> I have about a 20 handicap or so |
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| 21:47:19 | <docben> I don't think burke or paul golf. they must not be real doctors |
| 21:49:13 | <burke> I've been to a driving range before. And one ball even moved forward after my swing. |
| 21:49:54 | <docben> nice |
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| 21:57:48 | <Keelhaul> i've been to one too once |
| 21:57:53 | <Keelhaul> had a sore back afterwards |
| 21:59:19 | <Keelhaul> i've never played bowling though |
| 21:59:24 | <Keelhaul> unless wii bowling counts |
| 22:01:46 | <docbrian> wii bowling is fun. |
| 22:02:10 | <burke> Perhaps golf and bowling could be combined... |
| 22:02:49 | <burke> Get rid of that silly club. Just get a running start and fling a really heavy ball toward a hole in the ground 350 yards away. |
| 22:03:05 | <burke> Hmmm. Maybe that's why it hasn't been done. |
| 22:03:15 | <r0bby> burke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111111111111111 |
| 22:03:41 | <r0bby> bowling isfun |
| 22:03:49 | <burke> looks like your finger slipped off the shift key, r0bby |
| 22:03:50 | <r0bby> I'm bad at it |
| 22:04:01 | <burke> Pins like me. |
| 22:04:01 | <r0bby> burke: intentional :) |
| 22:04:18 | <r0bby> jesus christ |
| 22:04:24 | <r0bby> ./nick docr0bby |
| 22:05:22 | <docbrian> sans . |
| 22:05:48 | <Keelhaul> /nick docr0bby |
| 22:05:50 | <Keelhaul> =) |
| 22:08:03 | <burke> was jesus in our chat room? Darn. I missed him. |
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| 22:10:16 | <Keelhaul> ah, april 1 is over =) |
| 22:10:43 | <docbrian> not quite over on this side of the planet. |
| 22:10:49 | <Keelhaul> you live in the past =) |
| 22:10:56 | <docbrian> yup |
| 22:11:15 | <docbrian> you guys are ahead of us |
| 22:11:52 | <burke> april 1 is over? is that an april fools joke? I'm not falling for that! |
| 22:13:34 | <Keelhaul> dinner, bbl |
| 22:13:40 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7247]: Added ability for person searches on the dashboard to include identifiers ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7247> |
| 22:16:34 | <burke> dinner bell. |
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| 22:17:19 | <docbrian> okay... |
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| 22:19:01 | <r0bby> i have an addiction to coffee |
| 22:23:38 | <greendots> :) |
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| 22:29:29 | <r0bby> dannnnnnnno |
| 22:29:35 | <greendots> ? |
| 22:30:30 | <greendots> (Ive got a big test at 8am tomorrow...) |
| 22:30:51 | <r0bby> have fun :) |
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| 22:44:30 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1128 (task closed): person search widget should show some identifier <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1128#comment:3> |
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| 23:21:42 | <CarlosRivin> anyone herE? |
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