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<docpaul> hi. :)
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<green_dots> hi
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<docpaul> how are you green_dots... don't think we've met?
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<green_dots> Im doing pretty well... im r0bby's friend btw and intrested in doing gsoc :)
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<docpaul> good deal.
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<docpaul> welcome to the community. :)
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<green_dots> thanks :)
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<docpaul> what kind of code work do you enjoy?
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<r0bby> :P
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* r0bby looks around
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<green_dots> thats kind of hard for me to say because ive never worked on a large project :/
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<r0bby> luckily you have some pretty good devs to lead you :)
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<Mkop2> hi
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<docpaul> hi Mkop2 :)
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<Mkop2> (continuing a discussion with docpaul from #gsoc)
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<docpaul> welcome to the community. :)
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<Mkop2> thanks
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<docpaul> we're building medical record keeping systems for the poorest of the poor
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<docpaul> write code, have fun, and save lives
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<docpaul> can't beat that, eh? :)
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<Mkop2> :-)
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<Mkop2> are you a company? a non-profit? a group of geeks who do this in their spare time?
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<docpaul> the latter... evolving into the 2nd choice
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<docpaul> i'm a pediatrician
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<docpaul> who also loves to develop software
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<docpaul> and build things to make healthcare better
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<Mkop2> cool
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<Mkop2> if you don't mind me asking, where do you live?
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<docpaul> indianapolis
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<docpaul> ask away. :)
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<docpaul> i'm an open book
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<Mkop2> ok
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<docpaul> i work at a place called the regenstrief institute
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<Mkop2> how many kids? a dog?
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<Mkop2> :-)
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<docpaul> it might appeal to you.
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<docpaul> www.regenstrief.org
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<Mkop2> that's your day job?
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<docpaul> yes
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<docpaul> i'm actually a faculty member at indiana university as well
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<docpaul> i have one kid, and a second coming by april 9th
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<docpaul> one dog. :)
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<Mkop2> teaching? or doing research?
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<docpaul> both
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<Mkop2> what do you teach?
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<docpaul> medical informatics
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<Mkop2> cool!!
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<docpaul> how to build systems to take better care of patients
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<Mkop2> what's the connection between RMRS and openmrs?
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<docpaul> openmrs is based off the rmrs design
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<docpaul> my mentor was one of the fathers of medical informatics
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<docpaul> and made the rmrs over 30 years ago
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<Mkop2> I've usually heard informatics as being more genomics or that kind of stuff
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<docpaul> no, there's a big world of clinical informatics out there
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<Keelhaul> docpaul: i heard about your second kid when you were talking on the phone with ghislain a few months ago, congrats!
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<Keelhaul> i listened to the last ~15 mins of it
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<docpaul> Keelhaul: many thanks... we're very excited
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<Mkop2> I guess the term I heard before was bioinformatics, not medical informatics
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<docpaul> ghislain is a good man
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<Keelhaul> docpaul: how can you determine the exact date so precisely
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* docpaul wants to do whatever he can to help ghislain be successful in his career
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<Keelhaul> yea me too
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<docpaul> ever heard of the concept last menstrual period and how it relates to delivery date?
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<Keelhaul> he introduced me to openmrs
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<Keelhaul> docpaul: no =(
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<docpaul> well, basically... a women has a period every month... right?
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<Keelhaul> yes =)
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<Keelhaul> i mean =(
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<Keelhaul> lol
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<Mkop2> lol
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<docpaul> well, if she stops having her periods... and we know that it takes 10 months to deliver a child
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<docpaul> then we can predict the due date
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<docpaul> make sense?
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<Keelhaul> exactly?
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<Keelhaul> well
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<docpaul> it's accurate 19% of the time
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<Mkop2> only 19? really?
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<Keelhaul> i thought the exact grows of a child is random, depending on the individual genes and nutrition etc
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<docpaul> and my wife delivered exactly on her due date for will
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<Keelhaul> like post-birth growth
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<docpaul> will is my son's name
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<docpaul> so the chance of it being accurate improves
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<Keelhaul> ic
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<Mkop2> is the variation due to the fact that there's a few-day window for conception, or because of variation in how fast the baby grows?
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<docpaul> most women actually deliver before their due date
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<docpaul> probably >90%
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<docpaul> average due dates are between 38 and 40 weeks
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<Mkop2> I hope this is fictionalized: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sshot_fever.png
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/31xk> (at en.wikipedia.org)
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<Keelhaul> what software is that
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<docpaul> me too. :)
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<Keelhaul> we need a way to record allergies
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<Mkop2> care2x
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<Keelhaul> w/o using obs
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<Keelhaul> the openmrs wiki page already contains the new logo
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<Keelhaul> the software doesnt
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<Mkop2> well, it's easier to change a wiki than a program
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<Keelhaul> yep
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<Keelhaul> tbqh, i'm not a big fan of the new logo
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<Keelhaul> especially if its colors are used for menu bars etc
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<Keelhaul> too.. colorful
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<Mkop2> can I join this project and work on it in my free time, regardless of whether I do GSOC?
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<docpaul> keel: that's the active lists project
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<Keelhaul> meonkeys: of course
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<Keelhaul> err Mkop2
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<Mkop2> lol
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<Keelhaul> highly encouraged to do so =)
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<docpaul> Mkop2: totally!
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<docpaul> in fact, i'll be happy to mentor you through it
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<docpaul> if interested
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<Mkop2> if i do, it would have to be on a no-commitment basis, i.e. class is a priority
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<docpaul> naturally
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<docpaul> we all were students too. :)
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<Mkop2> ok
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<Mkop2> I am definitely interested
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<r0bby> I have a head cold :(
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<docpaul> a good start is the developer's mailing list... it's fairly active
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<docpaul> my guess is that irc will be fairly active over the summer too
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<r0bby> IRC was dead last summer
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<r0bby> :)
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<r0bby> Except for my banter :)
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<Mkop2> how does "fairly active" mean?
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<r0bby> Mkop2: I have messages in there every day.
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<Mkop2> ok, may as well sign up, and direct them to a folder
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<Mkop2> where do i sign up/
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<Mkop2> oh, I found it
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<r0bby> that's what i do
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<r0bby> I filter _EVERYTHING
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<Keelhaul> basically
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<Keelhaul> all the ops only show up during gsoc
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<docpaul> you can also do this:
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<Keelhaul> afterwards, it's only bwolfe =)
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<docpaul> lists.openmrs.org
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<docpaul> i set up a nabble reflection
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<Mkop2> what should I join? announce@, dev@, anything else
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<Mkop2> ?
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<docpaul> that's a good start for a developer
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<docpaul> implementer list lets you see users benefitting from your work
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<docpaul> which is cool. :)
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<Mkop2> should I join interns?
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<docpaul> why not wait on that
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<Mkop2> ok
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<r0bby> interns is when you get accepted
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<Mkop2> you guys didn't catch my mistake
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<r0bby> then you're there for life :)
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<Mkop2> I was about to join announce as well as dev
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<Mkop2> r0bby: are you a former intern?
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<r0bby> Si
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<r0bby> 2008 summer of code
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<r0bby> 'success' of sorts
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<Mkop2> cool
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<Mkop2> how many interns did openmrs have?
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<docpaul> 12 last year
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<r0bby> docpaul: what happened to Matt Shanks?
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<Mkop2> subscribed.
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<Keelhaul> are gsoc students officially interns?
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<docpaul> don't ask me? :)
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<Keelhaul> i thought that's for that special intern program
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<Keelhaul> for africans
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<r0bby> you were his mentor!
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<docpaul> he disappeared off the face of the earth
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<docpaul> he failed
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<Mkop2> btw, let me introduce myself to all you
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<Mkop2> Michael Kopinsky
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<r0bby> Keelhaul: no soc students are interns :)
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<Mkop2> bioengineering student at UPenn
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<r0bby> soc is ai nternship program :)
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<Mkop2> junior
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<r0bby> ahh
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<docpaul> awesome.. a real pleasure to meet you
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<Mkop2> thanks
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<docpaul> we heart biomed students
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<r0bby> I'm technically a sophmore... it will be 8 years when i finish on a _TWO_ year degree
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<Mkop2> I take it you're Paul Biondich
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<docpaul> that's me
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<r0bby> he is
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<r0bby> the one and only
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<r0bby> Burke is a short man
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<docpaul> haha... not really
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<Keelhaul> define short
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<Mkop2> huh?
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<docpaul> shorter than i am
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<r0bby> compared to paul of course :P
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<Keelhaul> why, how tall are you
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<docpaul> but i'm taller than average
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<r0bby> I'm going based on seeing him next to paul
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<docpaul> 6'4"
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<Mkop2> lol
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<Keelhaul> i'm 5'9 =(
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<r0bby> docpaul: you'd be eye to eye w/ my father
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<Mkop2> even I would be short next to you
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<r0bby> i'm 5'8
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01:22:40
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<Mkop2> i'm 6'0"
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<Mkop2> this is quite strange, telling strangers in IRC my height :-)
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<Keelhaul> metric ftw, btw
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<docpaul> hehe
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<docpaul> silly americans
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01:23:40
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<Keelhaul> we use inches for screen and wheel sizes though
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<Mkop2> Keelhaul: where are you from?
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<Keelhaul> germany
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<Mkop2> oh
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01:24:15
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<Mkop2> if you were from the UK I would have had fun with you
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<Keelhaul> =o
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01:24:28
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<Keelhaul> how
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01:24:32
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<Mkop2> with their silly half-metric half-imperial business
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01:24:36
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<Keelhaul> oh yea
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<docpaul> grin
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<Keelhaul> they used "stones" for weight
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01:24:45
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<Mkop2> how many meters in a mile?
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01:24:46
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<Keelhaul> like in ultima online
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01:24:51
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<Mkop2> lol
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<Keelhaul> use*
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01:25:14
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<Mkop2> is the openmrs forum used at all?
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01:25:18
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<Keelhaul> meters in a mile?
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01:25:19
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<r0bby> like never
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01:25:21
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<Keelhaul> about 1600 i think
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01:25:23
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<docpaul> rarely
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01:25:27
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<r0bby> At least i NEVER check it
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01:25:32
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<docpaul> people constantly join it
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01:25:38
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<r0bby> I joined it
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01:25:40
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<docpaul> you can use our rss feeds to follow it
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01:25:42
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<Keelhaul> i get any forum posts delivered to me via the rss feed
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01:25:46
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<r0bby> the captcha is a little bit TOO good
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01:25:47
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<docpaul> exactly. :)
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01:26:04
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<r0bby> I mean damn
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<Mkop2> is it just me, or is the date display on there messed up?
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01:26:17
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<r0bby> ahhh
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01:26:18
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<docpaul> on what?
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01:26:21
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<r0bby> no more headache!
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<r0bby> :D
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<Mkop2> on Nov Tue 04, 2008 9:52 am
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01:26:33
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<Mkop2> on the forum
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01:26:50
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<r0bby> he
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01:26:59
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<r0bby> docpaul: that's a HUGE bug lol
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01:27:03
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<r0bby> NOT IT!
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01:27:19
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<docpaul> heh... wrong order
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01:27:27
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<docpaul> that's a phpbb3 setting i bet
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01:27:30
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<docpaul> let me look
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01:27:32
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<Mkop2> yeah, prob
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01:27:40
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<Mkop2> a field somewhere on the admin page
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01:27:52
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<Mkop2> so how competitive is it to get into GSOC?
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01:27:52
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<docpaul> hah... that's totally hilariou
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01:27:53
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<docpaul> s
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01:27:59
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<docpaul> fairly competitive
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01:28:05
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<docpaul> we typically have 10 apps per slot
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01:28:09
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<Mkop2> wow
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01:29:06
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* r0bby sighs
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01:29:12
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<r0bby> docpaul: nobody applied for mine :)
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01:29:17
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<r0bby> last year anyways
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01:29:19
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<docpaul> true
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01:29:21
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<r0bby> this year i expect competiton
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01:29:46
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<r0bby> which is why I've taken to the practice of keeping my yap shut as to what i'm applying for :)
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01:29:48
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<docpaul> yours was a little more specific than most... and likely scary to most
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01:30:23
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<r0bby> What we SHOULD have done was broken up over 2 summers :)
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01:30:44
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<green_dots> wow 10 per slot :(
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01:30:50
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<r0bby> tho i'm not quite sure _HOW_ to do it
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01:31:04
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<docpaul> green: the key is to show your interest and make yourself known
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01:31:10
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* r0bby is known
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01:31:14
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<r0bby> I got one up
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01:31:14
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<r0bby> :)
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01:31:23
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<docpaul> a lot of applications are just written... people that get accepted are typically advocated for because people know them
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01:31:38
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<green_dots> yea that why i came here today
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01:31:39
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<docpaul> over email, irc, etc
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01:31:59
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<docpaul> just get to know folks. :)
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01:32:16
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<r0bby> dano: here's what he was saying bout detailed: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Active_Projects#Groovy_Forms_Modulea
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01:32:19
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/31y9> (at openmrs.org)
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01:32:48
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<green_dots> thats your roj last year
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01:32:49
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<r0bby> dano is a nickname green_dots got, and i'm still not sure _HOW_
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01:32:53
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<r0bby> yes
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01:33:10
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<Mkop2> what's roj?
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01:33:12
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<r0bby> http://openmrs.org/wiki/GroovyForms_Module
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01:33:15
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<r0bby> proj*
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01:33:18
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<Mkop2> oh
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01:33:22
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<r0bby> that's more detailed
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01:33:31
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<r0bby> much of that was planning
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01:36:28
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<r0bby> docpaul: mentoring is definitely out?
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01:36:32
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<r0bby> for me?
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01:36:45
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<docpaul> you got my email, right? :)
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01:36:48
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<r0bby> yeh
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01:36:54
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<r0bby> Just making sure that i read it right :)
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01:37:08
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<docpaul> i don't write ambiguously. :)
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01:37:16
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<r0bby> you use big words too
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01:37:33
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<Mkop2> how many openmrs developers are there?
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01:37:45
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<docpaul> active? probably a couple dozen...
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01:37:53
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<docpaul> on the svn repo... about 40-50
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01:38:15
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<r0bby> docpaul i have a quick question i saw
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01:38:29
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<docpaul> sure, shoot. :)
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01:38:39
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<Mkop2> how many active?
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01:38:39
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<r0bby> I saw in js on one the of the jsp files:
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<r0bby> need to grab pull it up
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<docpaul> a couple dozen
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<docpaul> take a look:
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<docpaul> http://dev.openmrs.org/timeline
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<r0bby> if (oldIdentifier && 1 == 0) {
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<r0bby> in WEB-INF/view/admin/patients/newPatient.jsp
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<r0bby> in WEB-INF/view/admin/patients/newPatientForm.jsp
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<r0bby> what the hell..
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<r0bby> when does 1 == 0?
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<docpaul> hrmph
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<r0bby> I read that and was like "huh?!"
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<docpaul> no idea what's going on there
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<r0bby> OH i see the bug
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<r0bby> i think
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<r0bby> looks like he meant i but put 1
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<docpaul> did ben write that?
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<docpaul> mention it to him if he did
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<r0bby> it was chase
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<r0bby> looks like the same thing is done twice
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<r0bby> that entire if statement is never entered
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<r0bby> I'm afraid to email it to the list publically... i think i'll email chase privately bout it
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<Mkop2> so is Trac a ticket tracker as well as a repo?
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<docpaul> no, trac is the the tracker, but it's linked to svn so you can see changesets, etc
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<docpaul> it's fairly cool
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<Mkop2> what's thd difference between a changeset and a commit?
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<docpaul> nothing
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<Mkop2> oh, ok
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<Keelhaul> a commit is the act of someone commiting code
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<r0bby> a commit is a changeset ;)
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<Keelhaul> which results in a changeset
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<Keelhaul> which is the listed in the change list
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<Mkop2> ok
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<r0bby> but if a commited a felony, is that a changeset ?
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<Keelhaul> r0bby: in your life, most likely
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<Mkop2> better question, if r0bby commits a changeset, is that a felony?
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<Keelhaul> lol
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<Keelhaul> not anymore
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<Mkop2> (I only picked on r0bby since he's close by, i have no idea what his coding habits are like)
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<Keelhaul> he stopped committing every single line of code =P
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<Keelhaul> a while ago
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<r0bby> non-sense
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<r0bby> it was every third line!
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<Mkop2> hey, the website says to commit early, commit often, doesn't it?
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<Mkop2> I think I saw that on your website, right?
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<r0bby> yeh you did
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<Keelhaul> yea
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<r0bby> but that is a bit uhm.. how do i put it literal
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<Keelhaul> has to be some real changes though heh
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<Keelhaul> since every commit for any module advances the global revision number
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<Mkop2> "added missing semicolon to line 24"
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<docpaul> grin
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<Mkop2> "added missing semicolon to line 25"
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<Keelhaul> well a missing semicolon would actually break the code
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<Keelhaul> unless it's groovy
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<Keelhaul> but i remember seeing him commit a whitespace
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<green_dots> lol
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<Mkop2> hmm, "added a missing semicolon", does that mean that you put in the semicolon, or that you put in the lack of semicolon?
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<docpaul> night guys... i have to work on the openmrs announcement
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<docpaul> :)
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<docpaul> peace out
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<Mkop2> good night
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<Mkop2> nice to meet you
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<green_dots> gn
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<Mkop2> to develop, do I need a working copy of the software on my machine
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<Mkop2> ?
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<Mkop2> probably
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<Keelhaul> yes
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<Keelhaul> and the source code of the base application
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<Keelhaul> do you use eclipse?
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<Mkop2> I have it installed, but don't generally use it
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<Mkop2> for this project I will
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<green_dots> how much of the project is java?
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<Mkop2> you asking me?
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<green_dots> any one who knows the answer :)
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<Keelhaul> green_dots: everything except the view
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<Keelhaul> the page design is most jsp, with some javascript
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<Keelhaul> the rest is java
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<green_dots> thats good then :)
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<Keelhaul> mostly*
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<r0bby> Mkop2: you need the code, a mysql db instance, and tomcat
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<Mkop2> tomcat is a web server?
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<r0bby> it's a servlet container.
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<r0bby> it's what compiles the JSPs
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<r0bby> and translates the servlets etc
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<Keelhaul> and serves them to client browsers, yes =)
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<Mkop2> I guess I should do more reading up on JSPs and servlets :-)
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<Mkop2> I have not used servlets ever
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<Keelhaul> Mkop2: you dont really have to write your own servlets for most purposes
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<Mkop2> but neither had anyone before their first time using servlets
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<Keelhaul> unless you want to deliver special content like images, files etc
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<Keelhaul> you need jsp/jstl for normal pages
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<Keelhaul> the base application comes with a lot of useful libraries already
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<Keelhaul> you can use a lot of it
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<Mkop2> grr, stupid computer
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<Mkop2> telling me I'm running out of free space on c:
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<Keelhaul> hehe
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<Keelhaul> thats always annoying
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<Mkop2> I should have a gig or two free
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<Keelhaul> i tried expanding my C partiton once
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<Keelhaul> because i didnt have enough space to install vista sp2
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<Keelhaul> ended up damaging my partition with all my music, photos and work
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<Mkop2> I've had this in the past where some mysterious something fills up a gig or two of hd space, and then it gets empty a few minutes later
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<Keelhaul> i had backups, of course, but not of everything
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<Keelhaul> took hours to restore that partition
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<Keelhaul> so from now up i'm generous when dimensioning my windows partition
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<Keelhaul> Total Free: 807.44 GB/1397.26 GB
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<Keelhaul> Hard Drives: [C:WinVista] 7.17/40.00 GB [D:WinXP] 6.33/10.00 GB [E:Main] 793.94/1347.26 GB
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<Mkop2> wow
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<Keelhaul> notice how it has 7 gigs out of 40 left =/
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<Mkop2> my (only) HD is filled with about 39/40
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<Mkop2> 4 year old computer
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<Mkop2> laptop
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<Keelhaul> i download lots of tv shows in hd quality
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<Keelhaul> it adds up
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<Keelhaul> usually 1.07gb per episode
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<Mkop2> well, I guess if I only have 250 MB free, now won't be the time to install ant and tomcat
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<Keelhaul> Mkop2: eclipse enterprise comes with ant
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<Keelhaul> dont need it separately
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<Mkop2> is eclipse enterprise the default version of eclipse?
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<Keelhaul> no
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<Keelhaul> it contains more features though
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<Keelhaul> i think the normal eclipse package doesnt even include subclipse
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<Mkop2> what's subclipse?
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<Keelhaul> subversion for eclipse
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<Mkop2> what I have includes cvs, I don't know about svn
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<green_dots> does any one use geany as an ide?
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<Keelhaul> Mkop2: it's similar but better, i think
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<Mkop2> you mean svn vs. cvs? yes, svn is the same concept but better
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<Keelhaul> Mkop2: that's what used for versioning here
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<Keelhaul> also, eclise enterprise has a jsp editor
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<Keelhaul> and ant
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<Mkop2> so i guess I should install eclipse enterprise :-)
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02:14:26
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<Keelhaul> check out the "openmrs dev studio" plugin or whatevet it's called
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<Keelhaul> it's somewhere on the website
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<Keelhaul> makes a lot of things easier, i heard
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<Keelhaul> green_dots: not that i know off
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<Keelhaul> most people use eclipse, some use netbeans
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<Keelhaul> r0bby uses something that costs money..
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<green_dots> ok thanks ill start with geany then move on to eclipse if it doesnt work out
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<green_dots> last time i tried it it didnt work with compiz
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<Fan> Hello
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<Keelhaul> hi
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<r0bby> green_dots: just uyse eclispe :)
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<r0bby> they have a neat plugin to generate unit tests.
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<r0bby> (wish one existed for my IDE -- i may write one completely porting the one for eclipse)
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<Mkop2> I'm confused. Apparently green_dots has been around here long enough to get a nickname, but he hasn't installed eclipse yet?
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<r0bby> green_dots is my friend
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<Fan> is this charoom for openMRS?
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<r0bby> I know him from school
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<Mkop2> oh
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02:21:17
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<r0bby> yes
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<Mkop2> where do you go to school?
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<r0bby> http://www.sunyorange.edu
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<Keelhaul> Fan: yes
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<r0bby> (Orange County Community College in Middletown,NY)
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<Keelhaul> is it.. orange?
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02:22:18
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<r0bby> no, but it's in Orange County, NY
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<r0bby> ;)
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<Keelhaul> lol
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<Keelhaul> r0bby is The O.C.
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<Mkop2> I have a friend who lives in Newburgh
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<Fan> Can I join your group for Google of summer of code?
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<r0bby> Hopefully it's not the city of newburgh... that place is a shothole
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<r0bby> Fan: sure apply when the application period opens
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<r0bby> !projects
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "projects" --- OpenMRS Projects: http://projects.openmrs.org
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<Fan> since it will not open until 23th, what can I do for the project now?
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<Fan> thanks
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<Keelhaul> Fan: check the tickets in trac
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<Keelhaul> some are marked as suitable for new coders
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<Keelhaul> see if you can fix any of them
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02:27:09
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<Mkop2> the wiki probably has better descriptions than trac, right?
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<r0bby> Mkop2: the wiki is just projects
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<Keelhaul> the wiki doesnt have a list of tickets
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<r0bby> the trac tickets are bugs
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<Keelhaul> yea
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<Keelhaul> and enhancement requests etc
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<Fan> do you know which language will use in the project most?
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<Keelhaul> java
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<r0bby> Java,JSP w/ a lil JS in some areas
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<Fan> thank you, that sounds great
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<Mkop2> JS meaning javascript?
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<Fan> when the project will start?
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<Fan> in late May?
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Announcements List: OpenMRS accepted into Google Summer of Code 2009! <https://listserv.iupui.edu/cgi-bin/wa-iupui.exe?A2=ind0903&L=openmrs-announce-l&P=75>
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<green_dots> 23 of march is the start of gsoc applications for students
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<Mkop2> did the bot just do that to tell me to check my email?
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<r0bby> Mkop2: no there is a feed for the lisst
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<r0bby> Mkop2: JS meaning java script yes
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<Fan> ok,thanks
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<Mkop2> shouldn't I also have gotten it in my email?
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<Keelhaul> if you're on a list
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<Mkop2> I'm on dev
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<Keelhaul> hm
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<Keelhaul> weird
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<Mkop2> did you get it via dev?
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<Keelhaul> yea
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<Keelhaul> thats the only one i'm on
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<Keelhaul> did you get "approved"?
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<Mkop2> oh, I'm a moron
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<Keelhaul> you have to wait for someone to manually approve your address
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<Mkop2> didn't even look at the email I was sent
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<Mkop2> needed to click a link
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<Mkop2> now it'll get forwarded to list own
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<Mkop2> er
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<Mkop2> which mysql package do i need? essentials, or full package?
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<Mkop2> This [essentials] package does not include optional components such as the embedded server and benchmark suite.
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<Keelhaul> whats the difference in size
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<Mkop2> idk
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<Mkop2> they said the essentials package is recommended for most users
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<Mkop2> so I downloaded that
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<isurundt> hi all. Anyone knows who is the mentor named "TBD" is ?
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02:58:39
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<green_dots> to be determined
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<isurundt> :)
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<isurundt> ok
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<green_dots> :)
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<isurundt> thanks
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<green_dots> np
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<Mkop2> any comments about 5.0 vs. 5.1?
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<Keelhaul> mysql?
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<Mkop2> yeah
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<Mkop2> but you didn't respond fast enough
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<Mkop2> I installed 5.0, since it's smaller and I'm short on disk space
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<Keelhaul> oh
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<Keelhaul> i installed 5.1 recently since there's an x64 build
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<Mkop2> I don't need mutiple concurrent connections to the mysql database, do I?
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<Keelhaul> at least not many
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<Keelhaul> if it's a dev server
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<Mkop2> I figure max 5 is enough, right?
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<Mkop2> do you use subclipse?
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<Keelhaul> yes
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<Mkop2> any comments about it vs. tortoisesvn?
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<Keelhaul> if you use eclipse, subclipse is the way to go
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<Keelhaul> because it's integrated
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<Mkop2> ok
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<Keelhaul> you right click on your project and have all the functions there
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7134]: mdrtb module. fixed bugs related to dst and bacteriology display widgets … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7134>
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<Mkop2> it seems to be taking quite a while for eclipse to download all the available software updates
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<Keelhaul> gn
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<Mkop2> I don't know if anyone here is awake
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<Mkop2> but I'm having trouble with svn
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<Mkop2> subclipse gives the following:
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<Mkop2> RA layer request failed
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<Mkop2> svn: PROPFIND of '/': 200 OK (http://svn.openmrs.org)
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<Mkop2> RA layer request failed
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<Mkop2> svn: PROPFIND of '/': 200 OK (http://svn.openmrs.org)
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<Mkop2> I followed the directions at http://openmrs.org/wiki/Step-by-Step_Installation_for_Developers exactly
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1iOR> (at openmrs.org)
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<Mkop2> I'm gonna try with tortoise SVN, I guess
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<Mkop2> is anyone here?
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<Mkop2> i.e. develops who could help me with something
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<upul> Mkop2: trouble still checking out?
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<nribeka> lots of people are here Mkop2
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<nribeka> especially r0bby
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<nribeka> lol
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<nribeka> summoning r0bby
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<isurundt> :)
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<Mkop2> nribeka: can you help?
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<Mkop2> or upul?
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<upul> Mkop2: what is the problem?
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<Mkop2> the first problem with subclipse I pasted above
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<nribeka> where Mkop2?
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<upul> Mkop2: have you used a subversion checkout from your machine before?
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<Mkop2> nribeka: before you came
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<Mkop2> I'll paste it again
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<Mkop2> RA layer request failed
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<Mkop2> svn: PROPFIND of '/': 200 OK (http://svn.openmrs.org)
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<Mkop2> RA layer request failed
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<Mkop2> svn: PROPFIND of '/': 200 OK (http://svn.openmrs.org)
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<Mkop2> that's the error message from subclipse
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<Mkop2> I have not used subclipse on this computer before
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<Mkop2> but I have used tortoisesvn
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<Mkop2> tortoisesvn worked, but now I have no idea how to import the project into eclipse
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<upul> in eclipse you can import workspace
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<upul> Mkop2: File -> import -> Existing project into workspace and give the openmrs directory
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<Mkop2> ok, there we go
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<Mkop2> thanks
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<r0bby> What
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<r0bby> PONG
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<Mkop2> is this a problem?
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<Mkop2> Description Resource Path Location Type
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<Mkop2> The resource is a duplicate of src/api/org/openmrs/package.html and was not copied to the output folder package.html OpenMRS/test/api/org/openmrs Unknown Java Problem
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<r0bby> eclipse problem or java?
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<nribeka> eclipse i think
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<Mkop2> eclipse gave that warning when I imported the project
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<r0bby> oh ignore it
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<r0bby> But i dont use eclipse so i can't help
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<Mkop2> oh wait, now that it actually imported the whole thing it gave 620 warnings
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<Mkop2> those are probably safe to ignore :-)
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<upul> Mkop2: you shouldn't get errors i guess
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<r0bby> warnings
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<r0bby> errors you dont ignore
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<r0bby> warnings are fine
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<Mkop2> some warnings are useful
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<Mkop2> but when there's 620 of them, ...
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<Mkop2> now another question:
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<upul> Mkop2: Or may be it is autobuilding,
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<Mkop2> sorry for bugging the heck out of all of you
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<upul> Mkop2: turn it off
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<r0bby> it's ok
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<Mkop2> the instructions say set compiler compliance to 5.0
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<Mkop2> I only have options for 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, and 1.6
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<upul> Mkop2: 1.5 = 5.0
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<nribeka> you need to set it to 5.0
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<nribeka> OpenMRS --> 1.5 / 5.0
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<Mkop2> 1.5 = 5.0?
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<Mkop2> ok
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<r0bby> yeh
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<r0bby> it goes java 1.2 1.3 1.5 5.0 6.0 7.0
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<r0bby> java 5, 6, and i'm excited to see java 7 come
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<Mkop2> is this the whole process that implementers have to go through as well?
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<upul> Mkop2: no there are built versions
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<Mkop2> oh, ok, good
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<upul> Mkop2: infact in the new version there is a wizard which would create db and all by just giving db connection details, just put the war and wizard comes
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<Mkop2> do you know offhand how to re-set JAVA_HOME in eclipse?
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<Mkop2> apparently i clicked too-fast through installation
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<nribeka> java home, the env properties?
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<upul> Mkop2: preference -> java -> installed jres you configure them
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<Mkop2> which is more advanced? jre1.6.0_07, or jre6?
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<upul> Mkop2: may be both points to the same place
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<Mkop2> they are two folders in C:\Program Files\Java
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<Mkop2> there's also jre1.6.0_0{1,2,3,4,5,6}
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<Mkop2> which leads me to think that the 1.6's are updates to jre6, but i'm not sure
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<upul> Mkop2: jre is only runtime to run programs
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<upul> Mkop2: to compile jdk is used which is normally installed in a separate place
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<Mkop2> oh, I'm a moron
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<upul> Mkop2: java installs 2 many things, i think there are 2 jres, on inside the jdk dir, which is called private, don't know why
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<Mkop2> program files\java contains jre6, jre1.6.0_0{1,4,5,7} and jdk1.6.0_04
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<upul> Mkop2: use jdk... one, everything will be alright
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<Mkop2> ok, there we go
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<Mkop2> it's compiling
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<Mkop2> :-)
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<Mkop2> uh oh
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<Mkop2> [echo] Installing openmrs to http://localhost:8080/manager as tomcat user named test
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<Mkop2> BUILD FAILED
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<Mkop2> C:\Documents and Settings\Michael Kopinsky\My Documents\Coding Projects\OpenMRS\build.xml:385: java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 401 for URL: http://localhost:8080/manager/deploy?path=%2Fopenmrs
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<Mkop2> upul?
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<nribeka> have you set the openmrs-build.properties Mkop2?
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<Mkop2> yes, i think so...
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<nribeka> 401 means unauthorized i think
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<Mkop2> C:\documents and Settings\Michael Kopinsky\Application Data\OpenMRS\OpenMRS-build.properties
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<nribeka> so, probably the username + password for tomcat i think?
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<Mkop2> where do I tell OpenMRS the admin username and password for tomcat?
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<nribeka> in that file
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<Mkop2> oh
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<Mkop2> ok
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<Mkop2> that would make sense
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<nribeka> tomcat.username=admin
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<nribeka> tomcat.password=xxx
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<nribeka> !OOM
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<OpenMRSBot> nribeka: "OOM" --- Tomcat's memory management sucks. Increase your memory available to tomcat. See http://openmrs.org/wiki/Out_Of_Memory_Errors
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<nribeka> watch out for this one Mkop2 :P
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<upul> Mkop2: have you added that user to tomcat's users files
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<Mkop2> I just changed the file to have the admin user/pass
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<Mkop2> seems to be working now
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* Mkop2 crosses fingers
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<Mkop2> BUILD SUCCESSFUL
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* Mkop2 cheers silently, because he's on the phone with his mom
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<nribeka> cool
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05:05:31
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<Mkop2> Do I want to be able to upload modules from the web interface?
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<nribeka> you need to change the runtime properties Mkop2
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05:06:17
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<upul> Mkop2: you can change it later anyway. or say yes.
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05:06:35
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<nribeka> yes
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<nribeka> say yes
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<nribeka> lol
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<Mkop2> this is sooo cool
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<Mkop2> I have a functioning medical records system on my computer
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<isurundt> hey upul
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<isurundt> upul: you there?
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<Mkop2> how cool is it that when I click finish on a website and it says it'll take a couple minutes, I hear my own hard drive spinning!
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<upul> isurundt: Hi
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<isurundt> from sri lanka. right
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<isurundt> upul:ben said to me that you are his last year student. he asked whether i know you..
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<upul> from Klow
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<upul> in Syldavia
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<upul> ;-)
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<isurundt> :D
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<Mkop2> is it a bad thing if openmrs has taken 8+ minutes to create the tables?
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<Mkop2> it said it would take "up to several minutes"
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<upul> it won't take that long usually
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<upul> may be machine is a bit slow
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<Mkop2> yes, it is
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<upul> Mkop2: you can check the logs
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<Mkop2> it's a four year old laptop
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<r0bby> Mkop2: it'll forward to the login screen
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<Mkop2> where are they?
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<r0bby> in the tomcat installation dir
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<upul> Mkop2: i'm not sure about starting tomcat as a service in windows
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<upul> Mkop2: check the logs directory
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<r0bby> upul: it logs
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<Mkop2> yep, logs indicate it's still working
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<Mkop2> all the data goes into mysql, right?
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<Mkop2> where is liquibase-core-data.xml?
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<Mkop2> hey, it worked!
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<Mkop2> cool
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<openmrs_5600> Hi
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<openmrs_5600> Is there any one to guide me
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<Mkop2> hi
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<Mkop2> I'm a newbie, can't offer much myself, but there are a few people here who know what they're doing
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<Mkop2> r0bby, upul?
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<openmrs_5600> I am a student of university of moratua Sri lanka
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<Mkop2> isurundt: you here?
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<openmrs_5600> I am intend to apply GSOC in this year
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<r0bby> !projects
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "projects" --- OpenMRS Projects: http://projects.openmrs.org
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<openmrs_5600> and interesting to work with ur org
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<r0bby> !soc
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "soc" --- http://code.google.com/soc
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<r0bby> er not what i wanted
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<openmrs_5600> yes
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<r0bby> http://soc2009.openmrs.org
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<r0bby> !learn soc as http://soc2009.openmrs.org
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby: The operation succeeded.
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<openmrs_5600> I want to member of or org and apply for ur GSOC ideas
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<r0bby> !soc
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "soc" --- (#1) http://code.google.com/soc, or (#2) http://soc2009.openmrs.org
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<openmrs_5600> thanks
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<openmrs_5600> I will join with ur malign list.
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<openmrs_5600> Thanks for ur guide and hope to work with OPENMRS
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<openmrs_5600> bye
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<omar_verduga> hi everybody, any mentor for google soc?
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<r0bby> !soc
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "soc" --- (#1) http://code.google.com/soc, or (#2) http://soc2009.openmrs.org
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<Mkop2> I don't think anyone here is a mentor
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<r0bby> !projects
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05:39:47
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "projects" --- OpenMRS Projects: http://projects.openmrs.org
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<r0bby> refer to that
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<Mkop2> r0bby: should !projects be added to !soc, so that everyone who comes can just be given those three links/
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<r0bby> !learn soc as http://projects.openmrs.org
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby: The operation succeeded.
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<r0bby> !soc
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05:41:55
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "soc" --- (#1) http://code.google.com/soc, or (#2) http://soc2009.openmrs.org, or (#3) http://projects.openmrs.org
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<omar_verduga> ok, thanks
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<nribeka> the bot will be abused in this time of the year
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<nribeka> by r0bby
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<nribeka> lol
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<Mkop2> ok, now I got openmrs installed, it's running, and now I just need to figure out how the thing works, how to use it, how to contribute (the technicalities of committing etc.), how to code, etc. etc.
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<r0bby> Horatio Hornblower
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<r0bby> that is a fake patient :)
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<r0bby> Burke created it
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<Mkop2> I already found John D Patient
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<Mkop2> horatio hornblower is not in the sample data
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<Mkop2> oh wait, I'm looking in the wrong place
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05:47:53
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<Mkop2> it's funny some of the features that exist in here that would exist in a normal MRS
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<Mkop2> lat/long
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<Mkop2> tribe
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<huda_s86> hello all
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<nribeka> hello huda_s86
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<Mkop2> r0bby: can you set the room topic to include the links?
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<huda_s86> nribeka: are you applying for gsoc?
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<nribeka> huda_s86, probably not
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<nribeka> huda_s86, are you applying?
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<huda_s86> I will try my best to do
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<nribeka> cool cool
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<nribeka> you will need to wait for a few more hours to see the mentors though
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<nribeka> where are you from?
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<huda_s86> palestine
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<huda_s86> and you???
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<nribeka> right now in US
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<openmrs_5600> hi hida_s86
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<Mkop2> huda_s86: where in Palestine?
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<huda_s86> hi openmrs_5600
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05:57:07
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<huda_s86> exactly from Gaza
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<openmrs_5600> I am also intend to apply GSOc
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<huda_s86> openmrs-5600 do you see the propsed projects?
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05:57:39
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<openmrs_5600> I want to familiar with openMRS
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<openmrs_5600> yes
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<huda_s86> what interset you?
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<openmrs_5600> How I familiar with openmrs
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<huda_s86> you can visit their website
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<nribeka> start with installing openmrs like Mkop2 did probably huda_s86 and openmrs_5600
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05:59:17
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<openmrs_5600> And want to know about coding style and sanded in openmrs
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<Mkop2> installing openmrs is a pain
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<Mkop2> I am interested in coding for openMRS regardless of GSOC
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<openmrs_5600> Can u explain Coding structure there and how I get good experience with open mrs coding
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<Mkop2> I'm not even sure if i'm interested in GSOC, I might be taking classes or doing something else in the summer
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<Mkop2> the only way to get experience is by doing it
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<Mkop2> look at the projects page or the trac page, read the pages in the wiki about becoming a developer, etc.
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<nribeka> you can start from here: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Documentation
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<openmrs_5600> ok I will go through it now
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<huda_s86> Advice me if it is better to install on windows or linux
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<Mkop2> whichever system you use normally
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<openmrs_5600> I will be irc after fiew minutes after installing the open mrs in my local environment
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<Mkop2> it works on windows
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<Mkop2> I know that much
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<Mkop2> I assume it works on the others just as well
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<huda_s86> usually I use windows
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<nribeka> it works on ubuntu
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<nribeka> works on vista
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<openmrs_5600> yes tell me how i install it in windows
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<nribeka> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Step-by-Step_Installation_for_Developers
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1iOR> (at openmrs.org)
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<openmrs_5600> thanks I will fallow it
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<nribeka> cool :D
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<huda_s86> what skills other than java is needed to develop?
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<Mkop2> r0bby, upul: strange. I created a new user, and he's not able to view a patient
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<Mkop2> he can search for a patient, and click on him, but then it says privileges required
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<r0bby> I usually dont make new users
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<Ramadha> Hi
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<upul> Mkop2: user need permissions
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<nribeka> Hi Ramadha
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<nribeka> other skills probably writing good proposal huda_s86 (joking)
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<Ramadha> I'm new to Openmrs
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<huda_s86> :D
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<isurundt> hi all: for the projects with no mentor assigned at the moment is there any risk in applying for those projects
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<Mkop2> r0bby, upul: for some reason, the basic provider user type can only view things, not add.
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<isurundt> for the project im thinking of applying("Encounter Type hierachy") there is no mentor
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<Mkop2> Would be this something to put into trac?
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<isurundt> :(
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<Mkop2> isurundt: I think they're still working on figuring these things out
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<isurundt> robby: are you a mentoe this time ??
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<nribeka> there's a lot of people who new to OpenMRS here Ramadha
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<isurundt> *mentor
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<nribeka> veteran OpenMRS: r0bby + upul
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<upul> Mkop2: may be it is how basic provider is defined
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<Mkop2> upul: exactly. But it's defined stupidly, imnewbieo
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<Mkop2> it's not a programmatic bug, it's a default settings thing
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<upul> nribeka: i'm not, but nribeka did a big project last time
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<nribeka> huhu no. upul got 4 project in one ;)
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<Ramadha> i have some experience with disaster managements, hope this also has some similarities with this
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<Ramadha> Is Openmrs on web base ?
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<nribeka> yes
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<r0bby> isurundt: there is
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<r0bby> Burke is the mentor
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<r0bby> or he was the last i looked
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<r0bby> oh they changed
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<r0bby> isurundt: you'll likely have Burke or Ben
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<r0bby> both of which are AWESOME
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<Ramadha> i'm little confuse with common IRC pool, i may find more dials on openmrs & login back
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<Ramadha> bye fr nw
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<Mkop2> r0bby: is there anyone who works on OpenMRS full time, or is it all geeks in their free time?
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<nribeka> there are some folks who works full time
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<isurundt> they have changed in the projects page :)
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<isurundt> robby: now there is no mentor for the project i'm applying .. :(
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<r0bby> yet
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<r0bby> isurundt: make yourself stand out!
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<huda_s86> for the active projects I see that it is assigned, how we can apply for it?
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<huda_s86> Is them announced for GSoC2009?
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<upul> huda_s86: active projects are old ones still going on, not 2009
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<r0bby> Active Projects are ones that are taken
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<r0bby> New and Assigned are what you want.
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<r0bby> New and Unclaimed*
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<isurundt> huda_s86:where did you see them ?
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<huda_s86> yes, following active projects link
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<isurundt> huda_s86: no it is not there
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<isurundt> huda_s86:it is in the new projects category
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<huda_s86> isurundt: you mean that I should be there, at new project cat
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "projects" --- OpenMRS Projects: http://projects.openmrs.org
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<r0bby> The New/Unclaimed is what you want
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<r0bby> !learn projects as http://openmrs.org/wiki/Unassigned_Projects
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<huda_s86> yes, I found them but I just wondering what isurundt mean
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<Mkop2> !projects
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<OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: "projects" --- (#1) OpenMRS Projects: http://projects.openmrs.org, or (#2) http://openmrs.org/wiki/Unassigned_Projects
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<Mkop2> make him forget the first one, maybe?
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "projects" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Unassigned_Projects
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<r0bby> actually no
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<Mkop2> what's OIP?
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<r0bby> !learn projects as http://projects.openmrs.org
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<r0bby> OpenMRS Internship Program
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<Mkop2> what is it?
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<r0bby> a program for students in developing nations
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<Mkop2> oh, ok
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<Mkop2> where does that money come from? OpenMRS itself? i.e. the organizations supporting OMRS?
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<r0bby> various funding sources
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<Mkop2> ok
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<Mkop2> what are Encounters? like a visit to a doctor's office?
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<huda_s86> can I install openmrs as a user to get familiar with it before ?
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<r0bby> hrm
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<r0bby> Mkop2: yes an Encounter is a doctor's visit etc
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<huda_s86> where to begin download and install as beginner??
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<r0bby> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Step-by-Step_Installation_for_Developers
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<huda_s86> r0bby: I opened this page and I found it is difficult :(
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<huda_s86> is there is anything wrong with me?
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<r0bby> !learn getstarted as http://openmrs.org/wiki/Step-by-Step_Installation_for_Developers
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<upul> huda_s86: this one is for downloading and installing, http://openmrs.org/wiki/Step-by-Step_Installation_for_Implementers
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<r0bby> upul: the first is good...
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<r0bby> he's going for soc so she should get developer POV
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<huda_s86> what is the difference between implementrs and developers?
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<Mkop2> developers write the software, implementers customize it for particular applications
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<r0bby> implementors are the users of openmrs
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<huda_s86> Thanks Mkop2
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<r0bby> huda_s86: more accurate is what i said.
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<huda_s86> Thanks r0bby, I wil get yours
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<Mkop2> huda_s86: http://openmrs.org/wiki/OpenMRS_Overview
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<Mkop2> how much coding/Java experience do successful GSOC candidates generally have?
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<r0bby> well most of us are students
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<r0bby> so at least a basic level
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<r0bby> and basic java understanding
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<huda_s86> r0bby even the student are new to openmrs?
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<r0bby> do you think I knew anything bout openmrs when i started?
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<r0bby> Mkop2: decent :)
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<Mkop2> r0bby or upul: tomcat question: what do i need to do to "close" openmrs? stop, or undeploy?
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<r0bby> just close the page
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<r0bby> the session will time out
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<Mkop2> my concern is memory and CPU
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<upul> Mkop2: you can close down to tomcat
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<Mkop2> my computer is 4 years old, and i don't want background stuff running when not needed
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<upul> Mkop2: if it is a service you have to stop the service
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<r0bby> stop tomcat
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<Mkop2> closing tomcat is probably the best solution, I guess
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<upul> Mkop2: best thing is to just open the thing in a command line window, just using a tomact zip without installation, then you will see the log in the console too
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<Mkop2> upul: I need to go to sleep now, but i'm gonna ask you for instructions on that later
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<upul> Mkop2: Good night
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<Mkop2> it's still early here - only 0337
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<upul> Mkop2: you're in Pennsylvania
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<Mkop2> yep
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<upul> Mkop2: see you later
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<Mkop2> my roommate is snoring quite loudly
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<Mkop2> almost as loudly as he sleeptalks
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<upul> Mkop2: are you sleeptyping?
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<Mkop2> no, unfortunately
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<Mkop2> I had two things i had to do
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<Mkop2> the second one probably needs to wait until tomorrow morning in any case since it's an email to a couple hundred people and it needs to be approved by other people
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<huda_s86> I am back, anything new?
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<Mkop2> no
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<huda_s86> ok, hoping nice day for all
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<Mkop2> I'm about ready to go to sleep
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<Mkop2> ok, good night
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<Mkop2> finally
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<huda_s86> ok,good night
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<huda_s86> I use windows
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<isurundt> huda_s86:i use TortoiseSVN
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<r0bby> huda_s86: tortoiseSVN is a GUI front end for subversion.
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<Keelhaul> you're at work at 7am? =o
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<Keelhaul> oh
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<Keelhaul> that means my interview is an hour earlier =O
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<Keelhaul> hm
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<docpaul> morning andrey
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<nribeka> Keelhaul, when are you going to test the hibernate?
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<Keelhaul> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1597/
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<Mkop2> Keelhaul: wth?
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<bwolfe_> Keelhaul / Mkop2 : Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles -- The Real Story
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<Mkop2> but the turtles in the comic weren't mutant, they were dead
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<Mkop3> ok, thanks
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<Mkop3> how can I get access to Trac?
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<bwolfe_> Mkop3: there is a "register" link at the top
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<bwolfe_> I can give you more access if you tell me your username after htat
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<Mkop3> ok, my username is mkopinsky
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<Mkop3> I've only been aware of OpenMRS for about 12 hours by now (though about 6 of those were spent on IRC and installing tomcat, new version of eclipse, openmrs, etc. etc.)
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<Mkop3> and I've never been involved in a coding project with a scope anywhere close to this
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<Keelhaul> that means you only had 6 hours of sleep D=
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<bwolfe_> Mkop3: ok, you now have "edit ticket" privileges as well, so you can assign a ticket to yourself if you want to start working on it
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<Mkop3> ok, so my numbers were a bit off
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<Mkop3> I think I'm gonna start with javadoc'ing
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<Mkop3> for which I don't really need edit ticket privileges
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<bwolfe_> Mkop3: no, but feel free to make a comment to say you're doing some of it
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<bwolfe_> Mkop3: perhaps just choose a specific package and say you're doing that one, then put a patch up for that one.
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<Mkop3> ok
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<Mkop3> ok, I just added a comment to the ticket
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<bwolfe> FYI to all potential GSoC Applicants: OpenMRS welcomes multiple applications for multiple projects within openmrs. Actually, we encourage it! Sometimes we get quality students only applying to a low priority project. So pick a few projects that interest you, apply to all of them, and put comments in them saying which other ones you've applied to
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul / r0bby_ / nribeka : please repeat my point to students if they ask and I'm not here. :-)
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<Keelhaul> lol ok
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: you could also add it to OpenMRSBot so all we need to do is something like !bwolfesays
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<Mkop3> I was about to suggest that
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<bwolfe> !learn gsoc2009 as http://openmrs.org/wiki/Summer_Of_Code_2009
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<bwolfe> thanks Mkop3 :-)
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<Mkop3> last night r0bby_ was teacahing the bot some stuff
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<Mkop3> I'm trying to find the commands
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<Mkop3> (if i decide to apply)
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<Mkop3> if you look through last night's chat logs, you'll probably find me saying "I'm a moron" at least 3-4 times
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<Keelhaul> i'm trying to access google health from openmrs
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<Mkop3> but it's the people who can admit they're morons at times who succeed in getting past their moronhood at other times
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<Mkop3> the true moron is a permanent moron, so he doesn't even recognize his moronic moments, because they don't contrast against anything
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<Mkop3> Keelhaul: how are you accessing google health?
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<Keelhaul> i'm reading about the possibilities
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<Keelhaul> speaking of morons
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<Mkop3> bwolfe: where do I start with the javadoccing? or rather, with getting to know the code/
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<Mkop3> just start at the top and work down?
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<Mkop3> within the API, should I just start at the top? with Attributable.java and work down?
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<Mkop3> no
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<Keelhaul> i'd start with the more straightforward object types
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<Keelhaul> or maybe some other serialized data
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<Keelhaul> lookd like the interface makes it possible for classes to be used as PersonAttributes
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<Mkop3> is there a wiki page that talks about what all the data types are? ie what is an encounter, what is a concept, what is a cohort, etc. etc.?
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<Mkop3> that's something that really should be there for user documentation
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<Keelhaul> yes, to an extent
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<Keelhaul> see the data model pages
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<Mkop3> that ginormous image?
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<Keelhaul> no
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<Mkop3> ok, found it now
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<isurundt_n> ben: i'm workin on Ticket #1240 as introductory ticket..
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<isurundt_n> there i need to add new 3 concepts as you have mentioned
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<OpenMRSBot> Keelhaul: Ticket #1240: http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1240
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<Keelhaul> IE8 is final
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<isurundt> is ben there ??
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7138]: CHICA Development - Trac (local-1) * Modify location of tiff images for … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7138>
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<nribeka> isurundt, you need to properly summon bwolfe instead of ben
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<huda_s86> I have problems in installing openMRS, step 2
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<nribeka> checking out huda_s86?
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<huda_s86> TortoiseSVN
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<isurundt> ok.. :D
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<huda_s86> for the link http://svn.openmrs.org/openmrs/trunk/, should I download things from it
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<huda_s86> that's my question
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<isurundt> nribeka:then shall i ask a question from you.. i need to add a new concept to the liquibase-demo-data.xml.
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<isurundt> this is as mentioned in the ticket #1240
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<Mkop3> huda_s86: you don't download things from the link you directly, you use whatever svn client to checkout
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<bwolfe> nribeka: ben works too. I have an alert on that one. :-) however, I was at lunch, am back now, sorry!
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<Keelhaul> isurundt: i'm not sure adding concepts via liquibase is a good idea
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<nribeka> huda_s86, using tortoise, you can download the source code from that link
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<bwolfe> isurundt: yes, modify the files in that zip file
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<isurundt> ya
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<huda_s86> nribeka thanks
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<isurundt> bwolfe:i'm gonna do that
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<bwolfe> Mkop3: Keelhaul had a good suggestion, start with some of the files in the org.openmrs package/folder
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<bwolfe> Mkop3: the easiest thing to do would be to start with the javadoc errors. there are some that are just wrong. see the attachment on that page
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<Keelhaul> he started with Attributable, which was a bit confusing
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<Keelhaul> which is in that package
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<huda_s86> keelhaul and mkop3 also
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<Mkop3> I'm starting with Encounter, and I'll see where I go from there
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<bwolfe> Mkop3: you can use alt-shift-j in eclipse to auto create javadoc, some places just will need that done
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: is there a general "session" object in openmrs
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<Mkop3> maybe EncounterType
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<nribeka> huda_s86, just shout in irc if you still have problems
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<Keelhaul> arent the base types somewhat commented already
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<Mkop3> yes
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<Keelhaul> all you need to do is hit the generate javadoc button
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<huda_s86> ok :D
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<Mkop3> but I want to familiarize myself with the code
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<Keelhaul> yea, that's a good idea
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul / Mkop3 : "public interface Attributable<E> " is a java5 thing. It means you can create an object like "new Attributable<EncounterType>". Look at the code for List or Map for other uses
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: a placeholder for generics?
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<Mkop3> though you're right, since the most central/basic stuff is already commented, learning the code and writing comments don't entirely align
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<bwolfe> Mkop3 (and others) : there are a few walkthroughs I put on blip for a code hierarchy overview
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: yes, its for generics
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<Mkop3> ok, I'll look there
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<Mkop3> is E defined somewhere, or do you just use it there and that's the definition?
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<isurundt> bwolfe: in that case do i only have to add the concepts?? what about the concept_name, concept_description, etc..??
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<bwolfe> Mkop3: E is defined and used inside of Attributable only. you could just as easily use any letter in there
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<spsneo> I am a student and want to contribute to openmrs as google soc student. any devs there to discuss ideas?
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<bwolfe> !gsoc2009
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<OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "gsoc2009" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Summer_Of_Code_2009
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<OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "trivialtickets" --- http://dev.openmrs.org/report/16
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<bwolfe> :-)
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: something i can attach data to for as long as the user is authenticated
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<Mkop3> oh, ok
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<Mkop3> that one just happened to be the first one that came up
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: google health uses https authentication, need something that lets a user log in one and stay logged in till he logs out of openmrs
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<Mkop2> when I say capable, I mean skills-wise, more than permissions-wise
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<bwolfe> Mkop2: you have the skills
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<bwolfe> Mkop2: not the permissions per se :-)
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<Mkop2> I realized that I also need to add the formatting and template file for openmrs to eclipse
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: btw, i cant seem to install the module wizard on my 3.4EE
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: did you choose all three things to install ?? dev studio, module wizard, (and one more...can't remember the name)
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<Keelhaul> no..
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<Keelhaul> it's based on the studio?
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: somehow
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: the studio is required by the module wizard somehow
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<Keelhaul> ok
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<Keelhaul> oh well
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<Keelhaul> i already checked out basicmodule manually
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: the module wizard is still cool
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<Mkop2> ben: did I do this right? http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1343#preview
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<Mkop2> just creating the ticket
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<bwolfe> yep, looks good
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<Mkop2> ok, good
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<Mkop2> I can't find openmrs-modules on svn
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<Mkop2> where is it?
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<Mkop2> ben?
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<Mkop2> or Keelhaul?
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<Keelhaul> modules/basicmodule
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<Keelhaul> i think
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<Keelhaul> er
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<Keelhaul> openmrs-modules was right
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<Mkop2> i don't see modules anywhere
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<Keelhaul> http://svn.openmrs.org ?
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<Mkop2> yes
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<Keelhaul> no path behind it?
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<Keelhaul> it should list 3 items
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<Keelhaul> openmrs, openmrs-contrib, openmrs-modules
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<Mkop2> oh, found it
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<Mkop2> needed to refresh
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<huda_s86> I want 2 install ant, there is no installer. how can I start installing it??
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<Mkop2> which version of eclipse do you have
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<Mkop2> ?
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<huda_s86> I have .zip file
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<Mkop2> I have eclipse JEE which comes with ant
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<Mkop2> check if eclipse already has ant
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<huda_s86> but whn I downlaod ant, nothing except zip file
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<huda_s86> from steps, I should install ant before
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<huda_s86> or what??
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<Mkop2> yeah, ignore that
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<Mkop2> install eclipse first
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<Mkop2> and get JEE
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<huda_s86> mmm, ok
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<huda_s86> I have eclipse JEE
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<Mkop2> so then you have ant
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<Mkop2> no need for the zip
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<huda_s86> thanks Mkop2
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<Mkop2> someone remind me, how do you import a folder as a new project into eclipse?
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<Mkop2> oh, nevermind
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<Keelhaul> ant doesnt have an installer
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<Keelhaul> it's a command line prog
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<Keelhaul> although if you download Eclipse Enterprise, it already includes ant and svn
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<Keelhaul> you dont need to download anything else
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<Keelhaul> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
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<Keelhaul> the uppermost link
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<Mkop2> Keelhaul: he says he has eclipse JEE already
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<Keelhaul> oh
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<Keelhaul> speaking of morons and not reading...
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<Keelhaul> lol
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<Mkop2> lol
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<huda_s86> I get the idea now
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1343 (task created): Formatting settings on basicmodule are out of date <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1343>
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<huda_s86> for tomcat server, how can I install?
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<Mkop2> follow the instructions at the tomcat website
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<Mkop2> ben or Keelhaul: when I copy the formatting files, do I need to rename them also, or just copy?
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<Keelhaul> just copy the entire dir
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<Keelhaul> .settings
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<Mkop2> even though they're called org.eclipse.jdt.CORE.prefs?
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<bwolfe> thats eclipse stuff, nothing to do with core or modules of openmrs
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<Mkop2> oh, ok
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul is right, just drop it in :-)
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<Mkop2> now what about the fact that eclipse has changed things since I checked out?
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<Mkop2> should I just delete those changes from the patch?
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<Keelhaul> changed what things
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<Keelhaul> right click the project root, then select "team"->"create patch"
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<Keelhaul> uncheck everything besides .settings
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<Mkop2> in the .settings files
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<Keelhaul> nothing gets changed if you just copy the folder over
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<Mkop2> before I even copied
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<Keelhaul> just a black star icon on the project because it's not out of sync with the repository
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<Mkop2> just from setting project settings
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<Mkop2> here's the patch before I changed anything myself:
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<Mkop2> Index: org.eclipse.jdt.core.prefs
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<Mkop2> ===================================================================
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<Mkop2> --- org.eclipse.jdt.core.prefs (revision 7134)
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<Mkop2> +++ org.eclipse.jdt.core.prefs (working copy)
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<Keelhaul> lol
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<Mkop2> oops
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<Keelhaul> =)
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<Keelhaul> Mkop2: http://www.rafb.net/paste/
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<Mkop2> yeah, didn't think of that
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<Mkop2> how much of that did you get before I was kicked?
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<Mkop2> http://rafb.net/p/LGU7ye32.html
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<Keelhaul> Mkop2: 5 lines
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<Mkop2> oh
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<Keelhaul> that's a bit short btw
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<Keelhaul> the files are longer
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<Keelhaul> dont edit anything
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<Keelhaul> just copy the dir
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<Keelhaul> or better yet
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<Keelhaul> right click on the basicmodule root, team -> revert
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<Keelhaul> and then copy the .settings dir to the module root
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<Keelhaul> then create the patch
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<Mkop2> that wasn't from basicmodule, that was from the main codebase
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<Keelhaul> yes
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<Keelhaul> but it codes into basicmodule
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<Keelhaul> and basicmodulelight
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<Keelhaul> er
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<Keelhaul> codes = goes
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<Mkop2> I'm not using subclipse btw, I'm using tortoisesvn
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<Keelhaul> oh
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<Keelhaul> never used that
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<Keelhaul> dinner, bbl
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<Mkop2> enjoy
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<docpaul> pastebin is needed for this channel. :)
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<Mkop2> sorry!
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<docpaul> you all know of pastebin right? :)
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<Mkop2> yes
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<docpaul> no problem at all
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<Mkop2> I just had a brainfart for a moment
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<docpaul> it's ok, didn't want you to feel bad about the boot
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<Mkop2> !pastebin
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<OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: Error: "pastebin" is not a valid command.
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<docpaul> yep, we should add that
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<Mkop2> !learn pastebin as http://www.rafb.net/paste/
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<OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: The operation succeeded.
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<Mkop2> is there a command to make the bot display all the things it's learned?
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<Mkop2> who is the bot master?
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<docpaul> !add pastebin http://code.bulix.org/ is a good place to create a link with a code snippet
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<docpaul> i am, i think
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<docpaul> !commands
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<docpaul> !add alias pastebin http://code.bulix.org/ is a good place to create a link with a code snippet
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<OpenMRSBot> docpaul: Error: The command "add" is available in the Alias, Herald, and RSS plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add".
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<docpaul> !alias add pastebin http://code.bulix.org/ is a good place to create a link with a code snippet
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<docpaul> !pastebin
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<Mkop2> !capabilities
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<OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
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<docpaul> whoops
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<Mkop2> I think you meant !learn
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<docpaul> !alias remove pastebin
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<docpaul> !learn pastebin http://code.bulix.org/ is a good place to create a link with a code snippet
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<OpenMRSBot> docpaul: Invalid arguments for learn.
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<docpaul> !help learn
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<OpenMRSBot> docpaul: (learn [<channel>] <key> as <value>) -- Associates <key> with <value>. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself. The word 'as' is necessary to separate the key from the value. It can be changed to another word via the learnSeparator registry value.
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<docpaul> !learn #openmrs pastebin as http://code.bulix.org/ is a good place to create a link with a code snippet
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<docpaul> byzantine
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<docpaul> !pastebin
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<OpenMRSBot> docpaul: "pastebin" --- (#1) http://www.rafb.net/paste/, or (#2) http://code.bulix.org/ is a good place to create a link with a code snippet
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<docpaul> hehe
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<Mkop2> what's the advantage of that bulix site?
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<docpaul> for me, it was always reliable
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<Mkop2> ok
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<docpaul> languages are more uptodate
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<docpaul> if you like syntax highlighting
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<Mkop2> ooh, cool
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<Mkop2> !any bwolfe
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<OpenMRSBot> Mkop2: bwolfe was last seen in #openmrs 20 minutes and 2 seconds ago: <bwolfe> Keelhaul is right, just drop it in :-)
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<Mkop2> that can be quite cool
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<Mkop2> useful*
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<Mkop2> docpaul: those are some really cute pics of your son you've got on flickr
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<docpaul> thx! my son rocks
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<Mkop2> bwolfe: should a patch file be called something.patch, or just .patch?
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<bwolfe> Mkop2: whats your guess? ;-)
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<Mkop2> the former
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<bwolfe> you are correct :-)
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<Mkop2> oh, I see now, it says "with the extension .patch"
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<Mkop2> ok
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<Mkop2> ok, I gtg
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<Mkop2> see you guys later
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<Mkop2> ben: I'm not sure if those patch files that i uploaded have enough of a path within them
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<Mkop2> let me know if they don't, and I'll reemake the patches
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<r0bby_> bwolfe: i fixed a small blunder in trunk last night before i went to bed
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<r0bby_> looked and smelled odd to me
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<r0bby_> it was non-breaking
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<s220043531> when I connect to CVS repository using CVS eclipse, it pops out authentication error :no such user, can anyone help?
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<r0bby_> bwolfe: I fought over whether to do it it or not then realized i couldn't sdleep if it was there
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<bwolfe> s220043531: we have an svn repository, not a cvs one
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<s220043531> mm ,what is repository?
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<r0bby_> https://svn.openmrs.org/openmrs/
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<s220043531> I know about CVN but never using it before
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<r0bby_> !getstarted
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby_: "getstarted" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Step-by-Step_Installation_for_Developers
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<r0bby_> ^
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<r0bby_> I added a bunch of factoids
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<r0bby_> !projects
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby_: "projects" --- (#1) http://projects.openmrs.org, or (#2) http://openmrs.org/wiki/Unassigned_Projects
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<r0bby_> fixed projects :)
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<r0bby_> and mkop2 did some as needed as well :)
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<r0bby_> I wish all my code didnt reside on my old drive
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<s220043531> on eclipse cvs, I cannot add a repository for different versions of projects that I have on my disk, can anyone help here??
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<s220043531> I do it for testing
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<r0bby_> s220043531: use SVN.
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<r0bby_> SVN != CVS
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<nribeka> use subclipse (svn client for eclipse) s220043531
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<nribeka> or tortoiseSVN
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<r0bby_> s220043531: that page details step by step what to do
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<r0bby_> see the getstarted thing.
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<s220043531> is subclipse auto installed when i install eclipse JEE??
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<r0bby_> That i cant answer
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<s220043531> I cannot see the page that you say I can stat fro it
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<s220043531> **start from it
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<nribeka> s220043531, no
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<r0bby_> !getstarted
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<OpenMRSBot> r0bby_: "getstarted" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Step-by-Step_Installation_for_Developers
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<nribeka> you need to install it
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<r0bby_> ^^^
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<nribeka> go to subclipse.tigris.org s220043531
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<s220043531> ok, but I expect that installing eclipse JEE will be enough and no need to install ant or SVN as somebody here say??
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<bwolfe> s220043531: you would think! but eclipse doesn't think svn is cool enough yet to include its plugin with the download :-/
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<nribeka> too bad so sad :)
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<s220043531> nribeka why u r sad??
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<s220043531> if not annoying u
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<bwolfe> s220043531: you could use the openmrs eclipse dev studio
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<bwolfe> s220043531: it has subclipse in it already
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<OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "downloads" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Downloads
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<nribeka> ah the studio :)
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<nribeka> too bad the svn is not included in the default eclipse dist
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<nribeka> :D
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<s220043531> aha
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<r0bby_> bwolfe: IntelliJ IDEA does
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<r0bby_> it includes git too
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<r0bby_> Mercurial as a plugin :)
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<bwolfe> thats nice
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<r0bby_> which i've yet to get working :|
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<bwolfe> and totally irrelevant because IDEA sucks ;-)
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<r0bby_> for what reasons
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<r0bby_> we get it free.
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<r0bby_> so that argument is out
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<r0bby_> find others :)
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<bwolfe> because its worse
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<bwolfe> it doesn't follow age-old conventions
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<bwolfe> and because its not eclipse
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<bwolfe> my beloved baby
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<r0bby_> what conventions..
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<bwolfe> :-D
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<r0bby_> oh christ!
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* r0bby_ needs to write the OpenMRS style thing as an IDEA thing :|
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<r0bby_> doesn't Brian uses IDEA
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<r0bby_> who uses IDEA besides me
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<r0bby_> somebody else does...
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<r0bby_> the AMRS custom build had IDEA project files in it
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<Keelhaul> you spelling it with all caps reminds me of IKEA
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<r0bby_> Keelhaul: it's how IDEA is spelled
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<Keelhaul> Personal License
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<Keelhaul> For individual developers
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<Keelhaul>
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<Keelhaul> $249
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<Keelhaul> lol what
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<r0bby_> we have a free OSS license.
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<r0bby_> argument dead.
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<Keelhaul> well
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<Keelhaul> i have free vista licenses from msdnaa
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<Keelhaul> therefore anyone who doesnt use vista must be a fool!
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<r0bby_> so do I
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<Keelhaul> right?
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<r0bby_> YUP!
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<r0bby_> actually i agree vista blows
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<Keelhaul> no more than xp
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<nribeka> go vista
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<r0bby_> I'm usaing a Deskjet 5550 driver for an HP Photosmart 7350
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<r0bby_> XP wasn't too bad
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<Keelhaul> dev list has been quiet lately
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<r0bby_> I could machine gun it?
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<r0bby_> but i won't
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<r0bby_> because I like openmrs and don't want to screw up
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<r0bby_> two danos...
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<Glen_> Hi there. Can anyone tell me if globalproperty.database_version is always synchronized with the datamodel version?
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<Keelhaul> Glen_: it used not to be, you had to update the db manually
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<Keelhaul> now with the liquibase updates, i'm not sure
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<Glen_> update the db manually or with the mysqldiff file?
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<bwolfe> manually is with the mysqldiff, isn't it ?
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<Glen_> I suppose it is.
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<Glen_> Hi Ben
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: the database_version global property is no longer needed in trunk / 1.5 / liquibase stuff
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<Glen_> but there will still be versioning of the datamodel
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: how did you know what i said =o
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<Keelhaul> did oyu read the bot
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<Glen_> has anyone created the liquibase javadoc-style documentation and posted it somewhere?
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<bwolfe> !irclogs
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<OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "irclogs" --- The OpenMRS IRC logs are publicly displayed online: http://dev.openmrs.org/irclogs
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: News Blog: Google Summer of Code 2009 <http://blog.openmrs.org/?p=110>
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<bwolfe> Glen_: theres a link to the liquibase xml documentation at hte top of our liquibase-update-to-latest.xml file
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<Glen_> yes, yes. I meant openmrs specific stuff like this: http://www.liquibase.org/dbdoc/index.html
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<Glen_> that can be generated automatically now that openmrs is using liquibase, right?
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<bwolfe> Glen_: I'm confused, do you want sql ?
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<Glen_> @bwolfe No .. more like a data dictionary type description.
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<bwolfe> Glen_: like a data model image ? or our database defined in xml ? sorry, I'm still confused
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<Glen_> ideally, an imaged combine with table / column text descriptions.
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<Glen_> _image combined_
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