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| 01:19:08 | <r0bby> oh no |
| 01:19:17 | <r0bby> more than one nribeka :X |
| 01:19:23 | <r0bby> this can't be good |
| 01:20:28 | <nribeka1> yes sir |
| 01:20:31 | <nribeka1> i'm the real one |
| 01:20:33 | <nribeka1> lol |
| 01:20:54 | <Keelhaul> the one and only |
| 01:22:36 | <nribeka1> :D |
| 01:23:14 | <r0bby> I'm the real r0bby |
| 01:23:17 | <r0bby> the one and only |
| 01:26:39 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: need a test generator that also generates the method body =) |
| 01:27:01 | <bwolfe> hehe |
| 01:29:02 | <r0bby> bwolfe: i demand an IDEA plugin :) |
| 01:29:13 | <bwolfe> r0bby: I demand you build it :) |
| 01:29:18 | <r0bby> denied! |
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| 01:29:26 | <r0bby> oh this can't be good |
| 01:29:30 | <r0bby> THREE!?!?!?! |
| 01:29:33 | <nribeka2> now there's three |
| 01:29:38 | <bwolfe> its an nribeka invasion! |
| 01:30:00 | <nribeka2> the router is not working |
| 01:30:03 | <nribeka2> :( |
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| 01:30:48 | <r0bby> bwolfe: that would make a good summer of project :) |
| 01:30:52 | <nribeka2> he left |
| 01:31:03 | <r0bby> useless since you advocate eclipse :) |
| 01:31:04 | <r0bby> :( |
| 01:31:25 | <Keelhaul> summer of project eh |
| 01:31:28 | <r0bby> I <3 my IDEA you can pry it from cold, dead, hands |
| 01:32:21 | <r0bby> say whatever happened to mshanks? |
| 01:32:25 | <r0bby> did he ditch it? |
| 01:32:25 | <Keelhaul> r0bby: maybe if you stopped using renegade technology, you'd have more tools to play with =P |
| 01:32:29 | <r0bby> and faikl last summer |
| 01:32:40 | <r0bby> ?!?!?! |
| 01:32:46 | <r0bby> you mean a kickass IDE? |
| 01:33:18 | <r0bby> I need to start coding before burke denies me my updated license key for IDEA :< |
| 01:33:47 | <Keelhaul> =o |
| 01:33:51 | * r0bby humps his elvis operator |
| 01:33:51 | <Keelhaul> it costs money too? |
| 01:33:58 | <r0bby> yeh -- openmrs has a free OSS license |
| 01:33:59 | <Keelhaul> no wonder nobody uses it |
| 01:34:08 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: we have a project license though. |
| 01:34:35 | <r0bby> it's not cheap -- but i'd pay for it! :) |
| 01:34:45 | <r0bby> oh man |
| 01:34:48 | <Keelhaul> that what mac users say |
| 01:34:58 | <r0bby> every time i look at this line i get tingly |
| 01:34:59 | <r0bby> props ?: null |
| 01:34:59 | <r0bby> :D |
| 01:35:19 | <nribeka2> it's expensive |
| 01:35:21 | <r0bby> I code in groovy whenever i can :) |
| 01:35:28 | <nribeka2> idea is gratis for oss though |
| 01:35:31 | <r0bby> nribeka2: talk to burke |
| 01:36:22 | <r0bby> HAHAHA it can't handle the elvis operator sanely! |
| 01:36:28 | <r0bby> it goes back to normal ternary |
| 01:37:35 | * r0bby dances |
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| 02:37:22 | <r0bby> upul!!!!!!!! |
| 02:37:42 | <upul> r0bby!!!! |
| 02:41:03 | <bwolfe> lol!!!!!! |
| 02:43:12 | <Keelhaul> is there a way to prevent decompiling in java? |
| 02:43:24 | <r0bby> liek ohh-em-gee!!111 |
| 02:43:39 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: obfuscation using proguard or similar |
| 02:44:29 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: what is DWR used for besides infopath? |
| 02:44:55 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: all of the special fields |
| 02:44:59 | <r0bby> concepts, patient, etc |
| 02:45:05 | <r0bby> the patient search field |
| 02:45:08 | <Keelhaul> the selector widgets? |
| 02:45:10 | <Keelhaul> etc |
| 02:45:10 | <r0bby> DWR is amazing :) |
| 02:45:12 | <r0bby> yes |
| 02:45:43 | <Keelhaul> what about dojo |
| 02:45:52 | <r0bby> that's totally different. |
| 02:46:03 | <r0bby> DWR marshals js->java objects |
| 02:46:16 | <r0bby> and vice versa |
| 02:46:37 | <r0bby> dojo is something similar to jquery and in fact i believe it's being removed in favor of jquery or so i heard |
| 02:47:03 | <Keelhaul> oh |
| 02:47:06 | <bwolfe> yes, jquery will replace dojo |
| 02:47:10 | <Keelhaul> i c |
| 02:47:26 | <Keelhaul> i thought the search fields come from dojo |
| 02:47:27 | <bwolfe> dwr works behind jquery/dojo to send js requests to the server, do the search, then send back js results |
| 02:47:59 | <Keelhaul> hmm |
| 02:48:34 | <Keelhaul> i could really make my modules' ui more comfortable if i knew jquery or dojo |
| 02:48:37 | <r0bby> for example both Groovy Forms and the Groovy Module use DWR to compile the groovy code and send back the results of the compilation |
| 02:48:59 | <r0bby> Groovy Forms uses it for editing only though |
| 02:49:06 | <Keelhaul> send back to the client? |
| 02:49:12 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: yeh |
| 02:49:16 | <Keelhaul> it's run client side? |
| 02:49:26 | <r0bby> the compilation happens server side |
| 02:49:29 | <r0bby> hold on |
| 02:51:00 | <r0bby> http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs-modules/groovyforms/web/src/org/openmrs/module/groovyforms/web/dwr/DWRGroovyFormsService.groovy |
| 02:51:05 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/31dx> (at dev.openmrs.org) |
| 02:51:16 | <r0bby> a great deal of that is gonna be removed |
| 02:52:01 | <Keelhaul> no ; |
| 02:52:02 | <Keelhaul> heh |
| 02:52:06 | <r0bby> http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs-modules/groovy/web/src/org/openmrs/module/groovy/web/DWRGroovyService.java |
| 02:52:08 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/31dy> (at dev.openmrs.org) |
| 02:52:10 | <r0bby> that's the groovy module |
| 02:52:11 | <Keelhaul> why isnt everything red! |
| 02:52:20 | <r0bby> red? |
| 02:52:29 | <r0bby> it's groovy :D |
| 02:52:32 | <Keelhaul> in java, eclipse would make every line red now |
| 02:52:38 | <r0bby> why? |
| 02:52:46 | <r0bby> That's valid groovy |
| 02:52:56 | <Keelhaul> yea i know |
| 02:53:03 | <Keelhaul> just feels so unreal to me |
| 02:53:06 | <r0bby> http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs-modules/groovy/web/module/groovyForm.jsp |
| 02:53:07 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/31dz> (at dev.openmrs.org) |
| 02:53:37 | <Keelhaul> so the jsp just displays the groovy class that comes from the server? |
| 02:53:44 | <r0bby> http://dev.openmrs.org/browser/openmrs-modules/groovyforms/web/module/createGroovyForms.jsp |
| 02:53:47 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/31e0> (at dev.openmrs.org) |
| 02:53:49 | <r0bby> all of the JS from groovy forms |
| 02:53:50 | <Keelhaul> does it look like a java applet on the page then? |
| 02:53:59 | <r0bby> is at the top and neatly seperated into functions |
| 02:54:13 | <r0bby> mostly done for maintainability reasons |
| 02:54:49 | <r0bby> nay |
| 02:54:52 | <r0bby> JS != java |
| 02:55:26 | <r0bby> DWR is one of the most useful framework i ever used |
| 02:56:55 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: the reason i ommitted public in my code is that by default the access modifier in groovy is public |
| 02:57:07 | <r0bby> there is no package privatem furthurmore, private is NOT respected |
| 02:57:21 | <Keelhaul> no, i was wondering what exactly comes back to the browser |
| 02:57:40 | <Keelhaul> and how it looks like |
| 02:57:42 | <r0bby> the result of the method :) |
| 02:59:01 | <r0bby> recently, we've updated to DWR 2.x on the request of me :) |
| 02:59:33 | <r0bby> previously we used DWR 1.x (i don';t know the exact version, lucky i don't have to change my code) |
| 02:59:34 | <Keelhaul> i added dwr classes for my services |
| 02:59:37 | <Keelhaul> but never used them anywhere |
| 02:59:48 | <r0bby> it's pretty easy to use |
| 02:59:56 | <r0bby> American Airlines is using it |
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| 03:02:22 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: auto test header generation doesnt work for me =/ |
| 03:02:33 | <Keelhaul> american airlines use dwr? |
| 03:02:38 | <r0bby> I think so |
| 03:02:41 | <Keelhaul> for what |
| 03:02:43 | <r0bby> one of the major airlines does |
| 03:03:08 | <Keelhaul> something on the planes or just their website? |
| 03:03:11 | <r0bby> checking available flights |
| 03:03:15 | <Keelhaul> oh |
| 03:03:16 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: their site :P |
| 03:03:33 | <Keelhaul> damn |
| 03:03:36 | <Keelhaul> i wish a day had more hours |
| 03:03:57 | <Keelhaul> i'd like to learn jquery |
| 03:04:06 | <Keelhaul> and development on wm/android devices |
| 03:04:10 | <nribeka2> you can go to planet other than earth Keelhaul :P |
| 03:04:14 | <nribeka2> hehe ... |
| 03:06:07 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: jquery is pretty easy to learn |
| 03:06:27 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: what do you mean by "auto test header" ? |
| 03:06:38 | <Keelhaul> heh |
| 03:06:40 | <r0bby> i picked it up pretty quick |
| 03:06:44 | <Keelhaul> the method heads |
| 03:07:04 | <r0bby> I used jquery's AJAX stuff |
| 03:07:12 | <Keelhaul> i have plently of @should in that class |
| 03:07:21 | <Keelhaul> and also set the dirs as instructed |
| 03:07:29 | <r0bby> is it bad if i stick w/ TDD? |
| 03:08:06 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: still not sure what you mean |
| 03:08:33 | <bwolfe> tdd is fine r0bby, as long as the tests you're making are "should" tests :-) |
| 03:08:50 | <Keelhaul> public boolean shouldDoSomething() |
| 03:08:58 | <r0bby> so in other words TDD is bad :) |
| 03:09:20 | <r0bby> shouldBlowYourComputerUp() { ... } |
| 03:09:32 | <r0bby> ugh I need to re-write the tests for groovy forms then |
| 03:09:33 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: that what i meant by head |
| 03:09:37 | <Keelhaul> what do you call it |
| 03:09:40 | <r0bby> bwolfe: are there plans to end support for groovy forms ;x |
| 03:10:15 | <r0bby> or do you guys want to see if it's finishable? |
| 03:10:17 | <bwolfe> r0bby: tdd isn't bad...test driven development is a great way to code. just as long as those tests are "behavior" like you're good |
| 03:10:30 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: would you say you use BDD here? |
| 03:10:32 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: the method signature ? |
| 03:10:36 | <Keelhaul> yea that.. |
| 03:10:48 | <r0bby> testCreateForm(..) |
| 03:11:48 | <bwolfe> r0bby: "support" ends when you stop coding for it. :-p |
| 03:12:03 | <bwolfe> r0bby: once its done and people are using it, we might support it if you leave...but right now, you're it!! |
| 03:12:04 | <bwolfe> :-) |
| 03:13:00 | <r0bby> I won't stop then |
| 03:13:09 | <r0bby> right now i'm in the process of re-writing parts |
| 03:13:27 | <r0bby> and avoiding machine gun commits |
| 03:13:32 | <r0bby> instead i'm gonna do HUGE commits |
| 03:14:43 | <bwolfe> r0bby: daily commits are fine :-) |
| 03:15:01 | <r0bby> I prefer yearly |
| 03:15:06 | <r0bby> or monthly :) |
| 03:18:51 | <Keelhaul> or hourly =P |
| 03:20:01 | <Keelhaul> Changeset [9124]: groovyforms module: deleted a whitespace |
| 03:20:04 | <Keelhaul> <3 |
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| 03:23:15 | <bwolfe> Changeset [9125]: groovyforms module: readded whitespace |
| 03:23:16 | <bwolfe> :-D |
| 03:23:44 | <Keelhaul> =) |
| 03:23:48 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: answer my questions plz =/ |
| 03:23:58 | <bwolfe> although now its going to be: Changeset [9126]: groovyforms module: rewrote everything |
| 03:24:08 | <bwolfe> which one, bdd one ? |
| 03:25:11 | <Keelhaul> yea |
| 03:25:24 | <bwolfe> we use a pseudo bdd :-) |
| 03:25:27 | <Keelhaul> and about why the plugin wont generate the signatures |
| 03:25:34 | <bwolfe> no stories, but we do use behavior type of tests |
| 03:25:38 | <Keelhaul> yea |
| 03:26:05 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I don't know why it won't. are there any compile errors in your project right now ? |
| 03:26:20 | <Keelhaul> no |
| 03:28:25 | <nribeka2> i get it working straight away Keelhaul |
| 03:28:32 | <Keelhaul> weird |
| 03:28:39 | <nribeka2> did you set the props? |
| 03:28:44 | <Keelhaul> yes |
| 03:28:56 | <nribeka2> usually they have some popups saying whats wrong right |
| 03:29:02 | <nribeka2> or check the eclipse log :P |
| 03:31:31 | <r0bby> bwolfe: i have this horrible habit of being OCD w/ formats |
| 03:31:44 | <r0bby> so I'll just reformat everything :) |
| 03:32:57 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: I NEVER commit hourly! |
| 03:32:59 | <r0bby> *NEVER* |
| 03:33:14 | <r0bby> Okay in the beginning i did but I stopped after I got whipped by bwolfe |
| 03:43:36 | <nribeka2> bwolfe, ping pong |
| 03:44:33 | <bwolfe> ? |
| 03:44:57 | <nribeka2> unable to replicate the problem with hibernate |
| 03:45:26 | <nribeka2> patched using 02222009.patch and run the test that you post on the ticket comments |
| 03:45:30 | <nribeka2> and run ok :( |
| 03:45:32 | <nribeka2> argghhh ... |
| 03:46:35 | <Keelhaul> nribeka2: have you tried extending an object type and then instantiate it? |
| 03:47:07 | <nribeka2> extending object? |
| 03:47:17 | <nribeka2> concept --> concept numeric? |
| 03:47:35 | <bwolfe> nribeka2: are you sure you have the right jar ? |
| 03:47:46 | <bwolfe> or that @Test is before the unit test method ? |
| 03:47:56 | <nribeka2> yeps |
| 03:48:27 | <nribeka2> refresh + clean + build |
| 03:52:25 | <Keelhaul> hmm |
| 03:52:33 | <Keelhaul> apart from the methods not auto generating |
| 03:52:47 | <Keelhaul> i still ahve the problem with the module tests not finding the mock xml db |
| 03:55:07 | <bwolfe> nribeka2: very odd |
| 03:55:29 | <bwolfe> nribeka2: and you only have one hibernate jar, right ? |
| 03:57:14 | <Keelhaul> nribeka2: my module extens Encounter, thats when your hibernate jar makes trouble |
| 03:57:17 | <Keelhaul> +d |
| 03:59:28 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: not sure about that one |
| 03:59:46 | <bwolfe> perhaps r0bby can help, he's doing a lot of tests in his module. :-) |
| 03:59:54 | <bwolfe> I'm off for the night |
| 04:00:32 | * r0bby does not know Hibernate |
| 04:00:34 | <nribeka2> ok bwolfe |
| 04:00:40 | <nribeka2> cya bwolfe |
| 04:00:42 | <nribeka2> :) |
| 04:00:45 | <r0bby> nor do I know the eclipse voodoo |
| 04:00:46 | <r0bby> :) |
| 04:00:49 | <nribeka2> hahaha |
| 04:01:16 | <r0bby> more black magic than Rod Johnson's Black magic framework called spring |
| 04:01:21 | <Keelhaul> gn |
| 04:01:30 | <nribeka2> is there any test that i can run Keelhaul? |
| 04:01:38 | <nribeka2> or i need to install your module and run it? |
| 04:02:35 | <Keelhaul> yes, thats the problem |
| 04:02:41 | <Keelhaul> i cant give it to anyone yet =( |
| 04:03:03 | <Keelhaul> and it only seems to fail in controllers |
| 04:03:13 | <nribeka2> arghhh ... |
| 04:03:14 | <Keelhaul> junit tests work fine |
| 04:03:15 | <nribeka2> huhuhu ... |
| 04:03:21 | <nribeka2> ooo ic ic |
| 04:04:08 | <nribeka2> how about if i put some logging and give you that hibernate :D |
| 04:04:12 | <nribeka2> and you try it |
| 04:04:17 | <nribeka2> would it be ok Keelhaul? |
| 04:04:38 | <Keelhaul> sure |
| 04:04:46 | <Keelhaul> but not right now |
| 04:04:48 | <Keelhaul> gotta go sleep |
| 04:05:02 | <Keelhaul> friday would be nice |
| 04:06:09 | <nribeka2> ooo ok ok Keelhaul |
| 04:06:17 | <nribeka2> what time is it there now? |
| 04:06:19 | <nribeka2> almost morning? |
| 04:06:21 | <nribeka2> lol |
| 04:06:21 | <Keelhaul> 5am |
| 04:07:11 | <nribeka2> wow ... |
| 04:07:32 | <nribeka2> night owl Keelhaul |
| 04:07:38 | <Keelhaul> yea =/ |
| 04:07:54 | <Keelhaul> i need to move to EST and it'd be fixed =) |
| 04:08:41 | <nribeka2> lol |
| 04:08:53 | <nribeka2> you can fly to indy :P |
| 04:08:56 | <nribeka2> or pitt |
| 04:10:23 | <r0bby> stay out of MY TZ! |
| 04:11:39 | <nribeka2> or NY to r0bby's place lol |
| 04:13:22 | <r0bby> I have a closet |
| 04:13:27 | <r0bby> you can go in my closet |
| 04:13:33 | <r0bby> it's kinda cramped |
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| 04:19:04 | <Keelhaul> r0bby: you'd have to come out of it first |
| 04:19:22 | <r0bby> LMFAO |
| 04:19:30 | <r0bby> no, it's where I hide the bodies! |
| 04:20:02 | <r0bby> I mean the extra clothing |
| 04:20:23 | <Keelhaul> ok slp time |
| 04:20:24 | <Keelhaul> gn |
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| 04:26:48 | <nribeka2> off for two minutes |
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| 07:12:44 | <antonh> Is openmrs accepted for gsoc 2009? |
| 07:14:40 | <upul> antonh: results not published yet |
| 07:23:19 | <antonh> They are published today iirc. I just thought you knew beforehand ;) |
| 07:24:34 | <antonh> Is there a list of suggestions for gsoc projects then? |
| 07:44:26 | <upul> antonh: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Projects |
| 07:46:41 | <upul> antonh: this is the starting point http://openmrs.org/wiki/Summer_Of_Code_2009 |
| 07:57:46 | <r0bby> antonh: it's highly likely that we WILL be accepted |
| 07:58:07 | * r0bby is s student from 2008 |
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| 07:59:33 | <r0bby> is a* |
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| 13:09:47 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Unable to load properties file with path <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=426#p1490> |
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| 14:13:53 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7130]: in patientmatching module, fixed problem when GUI program writes match … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7130> |
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| 14:27:01 | <Keelhaul> heh |
| 14:27:10 | <Keelhaul> accepted gsoc projects will be announced today? |
| 14:31:55 | <bwolfe> supposedly |
| 14:35:35 | <antonh> ~19.00 cet they say. |
| 14:36:37 | <Keelhaul> thats not far from now |
| 14:38:32 | <antonh> How much medical experience do people that work with openmrs have? |
| 14:38:50 | <Keelhaul> burke and paul are MDs i think |
| 14:39:05 | <antonh> ..and how much experience with computer science? :) |
| 14:39:22 | <Keelhaul> more than medical usually, i'd say |
| 14:42:26 | <Keelhaul> http://i17.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/39/31/52ba_1.JPG |
| 14:42:29 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/31mK> (at i17.ebayimg.com) |
| 14:42:30 | <Keelhaul> what a nice product photo |
| 14:43:43 | <bwolfe> antonh: burke/paul/hamish have MDs. burke also has a CS degree. paul has some classes and a lot of hacking experience. hamish has, well, darius |
| 14:43:47 | <bwolfe> hehe |
| 14:43:56 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7131]: in patientmatching module, fixed possible array index out of bounds error … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7131> |
| 14:44:11 | <Keelhaul> lol |
| 14:44:14 | <bwolfe> everyone else has limited medical experience but a lot of CS degrees |
| 14:46:38 | <antonh> Ok. |
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| 14:48:43 | <bwolfe> antonh: do you have any medical experience ? |
| 14:49:21 | <antonh> My girlfriend has a "Degree of Bachleor of Science in Biomedical Laboratory Science" :) |
| 14:49:46 | <bwolfe> hmm |
| 14:49:49 | <bwolfe> not sure that counts :-) |
| 14:50:22 | <antonh> But it might be a plus? ;) |
| 14:53:04 | <antonh> I will have a MSc in CS this summer though.. |
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| 14:56:05 | <isurundt> hi upul |
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| 15:03:09 | <bwolfe> antonh: so you graduate at the end of the summer, or in may ? |
| 15:03:27 | <antonh> May/June. |
| 15:04:15 | <bwolfe> antonh: are you taking classes in the fall as well? |
| 15:04:59 | <antonh> I am not planning to do that, no. |
| 15:05:56 | <antonh> bwolfe, do you have to take courses in the fall to be able to apply for gsoc? |
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| 15:06:36 | <bwolfe> antonh: I'm not sure. I thought so. check google's FAQ |
| 15:06:42 | <bwolfe> err gsoc's FAQ |
| 15:09:54 | <isurundt1> ben:has google abbounced the mentoring organizations list ? |
| 15:10:05 | <isurundt1> announced* |
| 15:10:14 | <bwolfe> noon PST |
| 15:10:19 | <bwolfe> in 4 hours or so I think |
| 15:10:29 | <antonh> bwolfe, i just watched this presentation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBRRR0BQyz0 and it says "Enrolled as a .. student as of April 20, 2009" |
| 15:10:46 | <antonh> I can check if I find it in the FAQ as well. |
| 15:10:57 | <bwolfe> antonh: looks like you should be good then. :-) |
| 15:11:05 | <isurundt1> ben :ok. Its night here... :) |
| 15:11:19 | <antonh> bwolfe, cool ;) |
| 15:11:23 | <knishant> this vedio is a gr8 motivation |
| 15:12:54 | <bwolfe> isurundt: you're in china? thats merely 3 am for you. you can make it! ;-) |
| 15:13:38 | <isurundt1> ben :Sri Lanka |
| 15:14:01 | <bwolfe> isurundt: oh ok, your IP says china. :-) |
| 15:14:14 | <bwolfe> isurundt: then it'd be midnight or so for you |
| 15:14:16 | <bwolfe> no problem |
| 15:14:20 | <isurundt1> :) |
| 15:14:30 | <antonh> bwolfe, it says "As long as you are enrolled in a college or university program as of April 20, 2009, you are eligible to participate in the program." multiple times in the FAQ as well :) |
| 15:14:37 | <bwolfe> cool |
| 15:15:05 | <isurundt1> ben:8.35 PM |
| 15:15:40 | <Keelhaul> asians live in the future |
| 15:15:43 | <Keelhaul> and americans in the past |
| 15:15:55 | <isurundt1> :) |
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| 15:29:53 | <Keelhaul> i love how you gotta copy dlls around in windows to get stuff running =/ |
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| 16:26:37 | <Keelhaul> who wrote the openmrs setup wizard |
| 16:26:40 | <Keelhaul> it's nice |
| 16:26:49 | <Keelhaul> although the title bar doesnt have to be orange... |
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| 17:41:33 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe_: could you add a link to trac from somewhere on the homepage of openmrs? |
| 17:43:09 | <bwolfe_> Keelhaul: its linked to from the developers page |
| 17:43:14 | <Keelhaul> yes, |
| 17:43:21 | <bwolfe_> and the "browse source" link from homepage goes to trac |
| 17:43:22 | <Keelhaul> that's too deep |
| 18:07:15 | <bwolfe_> Keelhaul: what are you suggesting then? |
| 18:07:32 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe_: nm, the source link is good enough |
| 18:07:38 | <Keelhaul> just needed fast access to the tickets |
| 18:07:57 | <Keelhaul> i usually go from my local openmrs installation to the openmrs site via the top left corner link |
| 18:09:57 | <bwolfe_> Keelhaul: the FF3 omni bar is your friend |
| 18:10:11 | <bwolfe_> just type the title of one of the pages you've visited like "trivial tic" |
| 18:10:15 | <bwolfe_> and it should come up :_) |
| 18:10:16 | <bwolfe_> :-) |
| 18:10:37 | <Keelhaul> i clear my history regularly |
| 18:10:37 | <Keelhaul> =P |
| 18:11:08 | <Keelhaul> and only chrome calls it "omni bar" |
| 18:11:11 | <Keelhaul> so i got a bit confused |
| 18:11:33 | <Keelhaul> i usually put things on my bookmark bar |
| 18:11:36 | <Keelhaul> but it's full |
| 18:16:53 | <bwolfe_> Keelhaul: hmm, maybe its "universal" bar in FF then :-) |
| 18:17:50 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe_: bmckown has reviewed ticket #936, wanna add it to trunk? =) |
| 18:18:29 | <bwolfe_> Keelhaul: haven't looked, did you add a general note about why some are checked already ? |
| 18:18:42 | <Keelhaul> i dont think so |
| 18:23:28 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe_: Role.inheritedPrivileges.description=Greyed out checkboxes represent privileges inherited from other roles. These cannot be removed individually. |
| 18:23:30 | <Keelhaul> is this ok |
| 18:24:29 | <bwolfe_> yeah, something like that :-) |
| 18:24:39 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe_: what about other languages |
| 18:24:45 | <Keelhaul> should i not updat them or add an english line |
| 18:24:52 | <Keelhaul> which someone else can replace later |
| 18:25:00 | <bwolfe_> don't add an english line to them, they will inherit |
| 18:25:10 | <Keelhaul> i know |
| 18:25:15 | <Keelhaul> just wanteed a definition to be there already |
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| 18:31:13 | <Keelhaul> hm it cuts of after the first fullstop |
| 18:31:16 | <Keelhaul> off* |
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| 18:41:15 | <r0bby> qwertson_ is a friend of mine, managed to convince him to do soc |
| 18:41:19 | <r0bby> potentially openmrs |
| 18:41:26 | <r0bby> !soc |
| 18:41:26 | <OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "soc" --- http://code.google.com/soc |
| 18:41:29 | <r0bby> er |
| 18:41:33 | <r0bby> !projects |
| 18:41:33 | <OpenMRSBot> r0bby: "projects" --- OpenMRS Projects: http://projects.openmrs.org |
| 18:41:38 | <r0bby> there we go |
| 18:42:07 | <Keelhaul> hi |
| 18:42:15 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe_: ok, patch updated |
| 18:42:23 | <qwertson_> Hi |
| 18:42:58 | <bwolfe_> thanks Keelhaul :-) |
| 18:43:04 | <bwolfe_> hey qwertson_ |
| 18:43:31 | <qwertson_> Hey |
| 18:43:59 | <bwolfe_> qwertson_: soc anticipation? :-) |
| 18:44:13 | <bwolfe_> t minus 16 minutes |
| 18:44:19 | <r0bby> whoa we switched up the project page |
| 18:44:20 | <qwertson_> yea :) |
| 18:44:25 | <r0bby> s/we/you/ |
| 18:44:43 | <r0bby> wayyy too different :( |
| 18:45:20 | <r0bby> eh ben if i ever get groovyforms finished the demo data for patients will be a cake walk :P |
| 18:46:14 | <bwolfe_> r0bby: the projects page is still a work in progress |
| 18:46:29 | <r0bby> why not put the summer of code logo at the top? |
| 18:46:59 | <Keelhaul> i still hate that term =/ |
| 18:47:12 | <bwolfe_> hate what term? |
| 18:47:18 | <Keelhaul> summer of code =) |
| 18:47:49 | <r0bby> WHY |
| 18:47:55 | <r0bby> it's _KICKASS_ \ |
| 18:47:58 | <Keelhaul> heh |
| 18:48:14 | <r0bby> run by a woman with super human powers |
| 18:48:33 | <Keelhaul> when i hear it, a picture of a pale person sitting at the computer comes to my mind while it's sunny outside |
| 18:48:59 | <Keelhaul> i'm not much of an outdoors person but i like the sun |
| 18:49:04 | <r0bby> in some respects you're right :P |
| 18:55:20 | <nribeka> can i join summer of code again? |
| 18:55:25 | <nribeka> hi all |
| 19:00:57 | <bwolfe_> nribeka: if you're taking classes... |
| 19:02:10 | <nribeka> i'm just kidding bwolfe :D |
| 19:03:20 | <nribeka> it will be complicated to work on the authorization thing anyway |
| 19:08:43 | <r0bby> WHOOOOOA |
| 19:08:47 | <r0bby> i dont think we made it ben |
| 19:09:04 | <bwolfe_> wheres the list ? |
| 19:10:13 | <bwolfe_> r0bby: we're in |
| 19:10:16 | <bwolfe_> http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009?limit_0=100 |
| 19:10:18 | <bwolfe_> woohoo! |
| 19:10:19 | <r0bby> er false alarm |
| 19:10:26 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/31rU> (at socghop.appspot.com) |
| 19:10:31 | <Keelhaul> =) |
| 19:13:20 | <Keelhaul> no profile hmm |
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| 19:30:49 | <Keelhaul> hi docpaul |
| 19:31:15 | <docpaul> hello andrey! |
| 19:31:20 | <Keelhaul> =o |
| 19:31:24 | <Keelhaul> how do you know my name |
| 19:31:31 | <docpaul> elfin magic |
| 19:31:36 | <Keelhaul> =P |
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| 19:40:16 | <r0bby> paul!@ |
| 19:40:21 | <r0bby> OH MAi! |
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| 19:51:42 | <r0bby> wow :) |
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| 19:56:00 | <nathanael> congratulations |
| 19:57:43 | <bwolfe> thanks nathanael :-) |
| 20:07:57 | <nathanael> i just created a user profile and a corresponding wiki page |
| 20:08:00 | <nathanael> :) |
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| 20:10:05 | <nribeka> congrats docpaul :) |
| 20:10:13 | <nribeka> congrats bwolfe |
| 20:10:15 | <docpaul> thx. :) |
| 20:10:28 | <docpaul> hi win |
| 20:10:29 | <docpaul> :) |
| 20:11:06 | <nribeka> hi docpaul |
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| 20:11:15 | <nribeka> haven't seen you around |
| 20:11:20 | <nribeka> ugh he left ... |
| 20:11:22 | <bwolfe> hehe |
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| 20:11:27 | <nribeka> lol |
| 20:11:35 | <bwolfe> you have to catch him quickly! he's only here for seconds at a time! |
| 20:11:36 | <docpaul> :) |
| 20:11:50 | <nribeka> hahaha lol |
| 20:12:09 | <nribeka> i see some new people in the irc :D |
| 20:12:49 | * r0bby ties docpaul to his chair |
| 20:12:55 | <r0bby> Now he won't move |
| 20:13:01 | <r0bby> and will pay attention to *ALL* of us forever |
| 20:13:05 | <nribeka> where's the page for the mentoring org now docpaul? |
| 20:13:07 | * r0bby cackles manically |
| 20:13:16 | <docpaul> hi rob |
| 20:13:29 | <r0bby> http://socghop.appspot.com/org_app/show/google/gsoc2009/openmrs |
| 20:13:30 | <docpaul> um, we're still working on it some... but the current version is projects.openmrs.org |
| 20:13:33 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/31sV> (at socghop.appspot.com) |
| 20:13:42 | <docpaul> are you planning to apply again win? |
| 20:13:49 | <docpaul> b/c i know shaun will have another matching project |
| 20:14:38 | <nribeka> i don't know docpaul |
| 20:14:42 | <r0bby> I knew there was a down side to recruiting friends! |
| 20:15:01 | <nribeka> i'm a bit afraid about the authorization |
| 20:15:24 | * r0bby wharfs down junior mints |
| 20:15:35 | <docpaul> oh, win.. we should find some time to talk about this at some point soon |
| 20:15:36 | <nribeka> friends r0bby? |
| 20:15:46 | <r0bby> nribeka: yeh qwertson_ is a friend of mien |
| 20:15:47 | <r0bby> mine* |
| 20:16:08 | * r0bby pimped gsoc like it was a cheap ...l |
| 20:16:21 | <nribeka> docpaul, sure thing :D |
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| 20:22:13 | <nribeka> ooo r0bby brought people here :D |
| 20:22:20 | <nribeka> are you applying again r0bby? |
| 20:23:18 | <r0bby> yes |
| 20:23:25 | <r0bby> potentially |
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| 20:25:29 | <nathanael_> r0bby, you did apply last year? was your application accepted? |
| 20:25:49 | <docpaul> sheesh... a lot of orgs got chopped this year |
| 20:25:55 | <docpaul> feel fortunate that we were not one. :I |
| 20:26:04 | <Keelhaul> recession |
| 20:26:21 | <Keelhaul> althought google has money trees, i heard |
| 20:26:23 | <Keelhaul> -z |
| 20:26:25 | <Keelhaul> -t* |
| 20:26:27 | <r0bby> nathanael_: yes |
| 20:26:32 | <nribeka> i didn't see it here docpaul |
| 20:26:33 | <nribeka> http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 20:26:36 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/31s0> (at socghop.appspot.com) |
| 20:26:51 | <r0bby> nathanael_: tho i did not finish |
| 20:26:51 | <docpaul> expand to 100 nri |
| 20:26:55 | <nribeka> ouch |
| 20:26:59 | <nribeka> there's a second page |
| 20:27:02 | <nathanael_> were you active in the project before? |
| 20:27:08 | <r0bby> No |
| 20:27:24 | <docpaul> he lurked on our irc channel for a year. :) |
| 20:27:28 | <r0bby> I'm in the process of (slowly) rewriting portions of it so it worked |
| 20:27:48 | <nathanael_> I have never even heard of openmrs before, but working on this project seems to be one of the best options for me in this years gsoc |
| 20:28:05 | <r0bby> I did openmrs for one reason: it's a GREAT cause |
| 20:28:08 | <nribeka> did you apply last year nathanael_? |
| 20:28:13 | <nathanael_> there are some interesting open problems/projects, and helping a noble cause is ... good :) |
| 20:28:27 | <nribeka> docpaul i want to apply as backup mentor, can i? :P |
| 20:28:33 | <nathanael_> r0bby, exactly |
| 20:28:39 | <docpaul> nathanael.. :) |
| 20:28:46 | <docpaul> i'd talk to shaun about that win |
| 20:29:29 | <nathanael_> shaun? |
| 20:29:49 | <nribeka> hm ... but i'm afraid if i have to go back to Indonesia, the internet is not going to be this good ... |
| 20:30:16 | <nathanael_> docpaul: is shaun an irc regular? |
| 20:30:42 | <nathanael_> docpaul: http://openmrs.org/wiki/User:Shaun doesn't exist |
| 20:30:57 | <nribeka> nathanael_, shaun --> sgrannis |
| 20:31:19 | <docpaul> nathanael_: sorry, i was talking to win |
| 20:31:27 | <docpaul> nathanael_: are you interested in applying? |
| 20:31:37 | <docpaul> come back this evening... i should be online and we can talk |
| 20:31:38 | <nathanael_> definitely |
| 20:31:38 | <r0bby> Keelhaul: google cut the number of orgs accepted and capped the max # of students @ 1000 |
| 20:31:42 | <docpaul> i'm one of the cofounders of openmrs |
| 20:31:51 | <r0bby> that's still $5,000,000 |
| 20:31:56 | <Keelhaul> heh |
| 20:31:57 | <nathanael_> ohh,, hi :) |
| 20:32:17 | <nathanael_> its already evening in my timezone (germany) :-( |
| 20:32:34 | <Keelhaul> nathanael_: i heard heidelberg is the best place for cs =) |
| 20:32:43 | <docpaul> heh... ok... perhaps tomorrow then? |
| 20:32:47 | <nribeka> you should ask Keelhaul about time nathanael_ |
| 20:33:05 | <Keelhaul> hey i like working nightts |
| 20:33:13 | <nathanael_> docpual: i will be here :) |
| 20:34:10 | <docpaul> nath: are you a java whiz? |
| 20:34:25 | <nathanael_> kind of :) |
| 20:34:42 | <nribeka> docpaul, can i share profile of you and the others? |
| 20:34:50 | <nathanael_> i'm studying part time |
| 20:35:15 | <nathanael_> while working as a freelance developer/architect/project manager |
| 20:35:19 | <docpaul> win: of course! |
| 20:35:30 | <nathanael_> mostly in the j2ee/jee5 space |
| 20:35:33 | <docpaul> nathanael_: excellent |
| 20:35:40 | <nribeka> docpaul: http://www.regenstrief.org/bio/full?member=pbiondich |
| 20:35:43 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/31su> (at www.regenstrief.org) |
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| 20:35:59 | <nribeka> ekrub: http://www.regenstrief.org/bio/full?member=bmamlin |
| 20:36:01 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/31sw> (at www.regenstrief.org) |
| 20:36:25 | <nribeka> shaun: http://www.regenstrief.org/bio/full?member=sgrannis |
| 20:36:27 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/31sx> (at www.regenstrief.org) |
| 20:37:10 | <nathanael_> thank you for the profiles |
| 20:38:01 | <nribeka> np nathanael_ |
| 20:38:52 | <r0bby> burke was fun to work with last summer |
| 20:39:12 | <docpaul> smart dude, and the godfather to my son. :) |
| 20:39:17 | <docpaul> so i am biased |
| 20:39:19 | <docpaul> ;) |
| 20:39:57 | <nribeka> sgrannis is missing :( |
| 20:40:05 | <nribeka> i still have james |
| 20:40:07 | <nribeka> :D |
| 20:40:16 | <docpaul> shaun says hello |
| 20:40:29 | <nribeka> hi back to shaun from me docpaul :D |
| 20:41:01 | <nathanael_> burke = ekrub? |
| 20:41:06 | <nribeka> start creeping on openmrs codebase ticket because we didn't have the chance to touch base for a while |
| 20:41:12 | <docpaul> indeed |
| 20:41:36 | <docpaul> nribeka: ok |
| 20:42:15 | <r0bby> nathanael_: indeed |
| 20:42:17 | <nathanael_> how many students did you get last summer? |
| 20:42:24 | <docpaul> 11 |
| 20:42:45 | <nathanael_> how many did finish, and how many are still "with you"? |
| 20:42:48 | <r0bby> I hope burke has more time this summer :X |
| 20:43:08 | <docpaul> we will likely have 10 - 12... and we might add funds for a couple outside of google, if they live in developing environments and are spectacular candidates |
| 20:43:45 | <docpaul> 9 "finished", many of those people (>6) continue on... |
| 20:43:47 | <r0bby> i plan on being one of those 10 to 12 |
| 20:43:59 | <docpaul> 2 have gotten work in the health it area |
| 20:43:59 | <r0bby> docpaul: am i considered the finished or no? |
| 20:44:08 | <r0bby> or does that include "finished" |
| 20:44:09 | <r0bby> :P |
| 20:44:10 | <nathanael_> i have to go for now, the university library is closing in the next minutes. will be back later from home or tomorrow |
| 20:44:14 | <nathanael_> thank you for your time! |
| 20:44:17 | <docpaul> of course |
| 20:44:28 | <r0bby> i still learned a lot :) |
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| 20:44:43 | <docpaul> rob: i counted you as finished, but that's probably not totally accurate |
| 20:44:43 | <r0bby> DWR is amazing. |
| 20:44:44 | <docpaul> :) |
| 20:44:52 | <r0bby> it's not :( |
| 20:45:12 | <docpaul> fix that. :) |
| 20:45:27 | * r0bby goes to write his research project |
| 20:45:56 | <r0bby> I <3 my ACM membership |
| 20:46:01 | <r0bby> docpaul: join ACM :) |
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| 20:48:57 | <nribeka> r0bby, i thought you already tied docpaul? |
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| 20:50:24 | <r0bby> me too |
| 20:50:33 | <r0bby> he must have broken loose |
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| 21:24:49 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1342 (defect created): cannot save new patient in registration module <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1342> |
| 21:28:37 | <ajuonline> r0bby: why do I feel i have heard ACM earlier |
| 21:28:44 | <ajuonline> or is it that I am just sleepy? |
| 21:30:26 | <r0bby> http://acm.org |
| 21:30:29 | <r0bby> you heard right |
| 21:30:35 | * r0bby got a student membership |
| 21:30:44 | <r0bby> used their digital library for research :) |
| 21:30:58 | <r0bby> much better than the crock of .... my school uses |
| 21:31:20 | <Keelhaul> what are you researching |
| 21:31:34 | <r0bby> applications where multiplexers are used. |
| 21:31:46 | <r0bby> I've got several :) |
| 21:31:57 | <r0bby> I wish i had an IEEE membership |
| 21:32:16 | <r0bby> they dont give annual access to their digital library |
| 21:44:44 | <r0bby> ajuonline: why did you ask |
| 21:51:23 | <ajuonline> awesome |
| 21:51:36 | <ajuonline> just like that, thinking if I should get it as well |
| 21:52:13 | <ajuonline> r0bby: what skill sets required for applying to OpenMRS project ideas? |
| 21:52:25 | <ajuonline> i will be applying to Sahana and OpenMRS for sure |
| 21:53:36 | * ajuonline puts cold water on r0bby |
| 21:53:40 | <ajuonline> where di you vanish :P |
| 21:54:08 | <Keelhaul> whats sahana |
| 21:56:23 | <nribeka1> off |
| 21:56:25 | <r0bby> Java/JSP/Spring |
| 21:56:27 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1129 (task closed): Need selection file module <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1129#comment:6> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7133]: cohortcreation: Creating initial directory <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7133> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [7132]: Initial import. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/7132> |
| 21:56:27 | <nribeka1> cya guys later |
| 21:56:31 | <r0bby> though this is stuff you can learn on your own |
| 21:56:35 | <r0bby> it's not impossible |
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| 22:00:59 | <r0bby> green_dots: you changed your nick heh |
| 22:01:23 | <green_dots> actually qwertson_ changed his nick |
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| 22:14:19 | * r0bby slaps ajuonline |
| 22:15:36 | <ajuonline> r0bby: ok thanks :) java/jsp/springs. right? |
| 22:15:51 | <ajuonline> Keelhaul: its a disaster management system. H-FOSS as well. http://sahana.lk |
| 22:16:58 | <r0bby> https://springmodules.dev.java.net/#features << this is hot |
| 22:20:38 | <r0bby> ajuonline: it won't hurt to learn js |
| 22:20:48 | <r0bby> tho it's easy to BS w/ Java script |
| 22:21:27 | <ajuonline> r0bby: js and java is different. you never mentioned JS :P |
| 22:22:53 | <r0bby> ajuonline: JS is used in the JSPs :P |
| 22:23:01 | <r0bby> I use it to make web 2.0 come to life |
| 22:23:04 | <r0bby> jquery ftw. |
| 22:24:12 | <Keelhaul> lol buzzwords |
| 22:27:32 | <ajuonline> r0bby: pm |
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| 22:55:32 | <r0bby> openmrs_8614: o/ |
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| 23:00:06 | <r0bby> docpaul returns |
| 23:00:17 | <r0bby> now where'd I put that rope... |
| 23:01:31 | <r0bby> sup =) |
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| 23:04:32 | <Keelhaul> way to scare people away =/ |
| 23:40:07 | <r0bby> ... |
| 23:40:14 | <r0bby> aww |
| 23:40:16 | <r0bby> come on |
| 23:40:17 | <r0bby> it |
| 23:40:21 | <r0bby> 's not like I use it often! |
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