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| 00:43:03 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1148 (defect closed): Leading zeroes should be ignored in patient identifiers <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1148#comment:3> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [6246]: Fixed patient search search with padded identifiers. ticket #1148 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/6246> |
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| 13:54:15 | <Keelhaul> hi bwolfe |
| 13:55:02 | <bwolfe> hi Keelhaul |
| 13:55:37 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: it would be nice if a concept could support multiple units, along with normal/critical ranges for each |
| 13:55:48 | <Keelhaul> and maybe also different ranges for men and women |
| 13:56:12 | <Keelhaul> btw, i ended up flushing my db and re-creating =/ |
| 13:56:14 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: different units on the same concept can't be done |
| 13:56:15 | <Keelhaul> couldnt find the error |
| 13:56:31 | <Keelhaul> why not |
| 13:56:37 | <bwolfe> because the numbers are completely different that get stored |
| 13:56:46 | <bwolfe> a different unit is a whole different kind of question |
| 13:56:52 | <Keelhaul> hmm |
| 13:56:54 | <bwolfe> "how many miles did you walk to get here" |
| 13:56:55 | <Keelhaul> depends |
| 13:56:59 | <Keelhaul> hm |
| 13:57:00 | <Keelhaul> yea |
| 13:57:04 | <bwolfe> "how many kilometers did you wakl to get here" |
| 13:57:20 | <bwolfe> but obs.value_numeric only stores an integer |
| 13:57:26 | <Keelhaul> but what if you ask "how far did you walk to get here (km)?" |
| 13:57:44 | <bwolfe> the user needs to enter in kilometers |
| 13:57:45 | <Keelhaul> yea, it would also need a value_unit or smt |
| 13:58:16 | <bwolfe> and in my eyes, thats not even close to worth it :-) |
| 13:58:34 | <bwolfe> because then you just put a larger demand on the reporting engine |
| 13:58:41 | <Keelhaul> true |
| 13:58:43 | <bwolfe> when its very easily solved by having two different concepts |
| 13:58:56 | <Keelhaul> but it could be made cross-unit with proper conversions |
| 13:58:58 | <Keelhaul> but yea, lots of work |
| 13:59:21 | <bwolfe> yes, the data entry screen could have boxes for miles, kilometers, inches, etc |
| 13:59:22 | <Keelhaul> what about different ranges for genders |
| 13:59:27 | <bwolfe> and do the conversion to km to be stored |
| 13:59:38 | <bwolfe> thats an interesting one |
| 14:00:05 | <bwolfe> I'm not sure how people are doing that |
| 14:00:17 | <bwolfe> surely they are not creating two different concepts... |
| 14:00:17 | <Keelhaul> i've been entering value ranges for some concepts, looking up the typical values on wiki |
| 14:00:24 | <Keelhaul> and some have different numbers for men and women |
| 14:01:05 | <Keelhaul> does anyone even use the ranges |
| 14:01:38 | <bwolfe> we only use a few ranges...mainly for ones that come off of machines |
| 14:01:51 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: send that out to the impl list and see what people say |
| 14:02:10 | <Keelhaul> oh hm |
| 14:02:14 | <Keelhaul> i dont wanna register there =P |
| 14:02:18 | <Keelhaul> already enough mail to read every day |
| 14:02:18 | <bwolfe> add in alternate ranges for men/women wouldn't be /extremely/ difficult, but it would be nice to know if there are alternatives |
| 14:02:26 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: filters... |
| 14:02:31 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: its all about mail filters |
| 14:02:48 | <bwolfe> and the impl list gets less mail than the dev list anyway |
| 14:02:57 | <Keelhaul> yea i noticed form the feed |
| 14:03:07 | <Keelhaul> from* |
| 14:03:10 | <Keelhaul> btw |
| 14:03:17 | <Keelhaul> is there an automated way to calculate BMI |
| 14:03:22 | <Keelhaul> or is that a manual concept |
| 14:03:49 | <Keelhaul> i have a patient search for obese patients, which uses bmi |
| 14:03:58 | <Keelhaul> and i was wondering whether anyone even uses that concept |
| 14:04:07 | <Keelhaul> or just enters weight and height |
| 14:04:22 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I think people usually use weight/height |
| 14:04:32 | <bwolfe> darius wrote a helper function for it |
| 14:04:35 | <Keelhaul> the dashboard does the calculation i think |
| 14:04:42 | <bwolfe> I think its displayed on the dashboard using his function |
| 14:04:44 | <Keelhaul> but there's no way to do it in the reports |
| 14:04:46 | <bwolfe> yeah |
| 14:04:47 | <Keelhaul> so i have to use bmi |
| 14:04:48 | <bwolfe> hmm |
| 14:06:14 | <Keelhaul> what's more common, outside the US, mg/dl or mmol? |
| 14:07:03 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I don't know :-/ |
| 14:07:36 | <Keelhaul> how about in the US |
| 14:07:51 | <Keelhaul> i tohught mg/dl sounds metrical but it seems the US use it |
| 14:13:43 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I don't know on that one either |
| 14:15:28 | <Keelhaul> =/ |
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| 15:30:03 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [6247]: formentry 1.4.x branch: Fixed taskpane to include concept-name-id when ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/6247> |
| 16:00:41 | <Keelhaul> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError |
| 16:00:42 | <Keelhaul> ffs |
| 16:00:46 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [6249]: -- chica * added new java rules to support ETS JIT * updated chica1 obs ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/6249> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [6248]: formentry module trunk: ported fixes for #1165 from 1.4.x branch <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/6248> |
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| 19:10:15 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [6251]: visitregister: Initial import containing skeleton code <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/6251> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [6250]: visitregister module: Initial import containing skeleton code. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/6250> |
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| 20:14:18 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [6252]: -- chica * changed mlms to reference a single CREATE_JIT rule <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/6252> |
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| 20:44:20 | <nribeka> exams is over .... |
| 20:44:22 | <nribeka> wooohooo :D |
| 20:44:24 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Justin Miranda: On user feedback <http://blog.justinmiranda.com/2008/12/on-user-feedback.html> |
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| 21:16:21 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [6253]: Applying patch #1133 author: efoxepstein <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/6253> |
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| 21:42:56 | <nribeka> bwolfe_, i have a question |
| 21:42:57 | <nribeka> :D |
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| 21:45:37 | <nribeka> is it possible for a patient to become a user, bwolfe? |
| 21:45:51 | <bwolfe> nribeka: yes, technically it is |
| 21:45:58 | <bwolfe> nribeka: but it throws errors right now |
| 21:46:07 | <bwolfe> due to a bug with the way we're doing users, etc |
| 21:46:26 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [6254]: bugfix: check if any subimage has an annotation; if so, do not show in ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/6254> |
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| 21:55:33 | <nribeka> so with the current release, there will be no chance a user is replaced by patient right bwolfe? |
| 21:55:50 | <nribeka> i mean it won't go through to the database |
| 21:56:04 | <bwolfe> nribeka: it can happen |
| 21:56:14 | <nribeka> it can? |
| 21:56:21 | <nribeka> so, if we got this exception: |
| 21:56:23 | <nribeka> [2008-12-07 12:37:05]IllegalArgumentException in class: org.openmrs.Person, setter method of property: personChangedBy |
| 21:56:23 | <nribeka> [2008-12-07 12:37:05]expected type: org.openmrs.User, actual value: org.openmrs.Patient |
| 21:56:28 | <bwolfe> but the problem is that hibernate throws an error if both a patient and user are the same person_id on the same object |
| 21:56:43 | <bwolfe> yes, that is the type of error |
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| 21:58:19 | <nribeka1> hmm ic ic |
| 21:59:05 | <nribeka> it is caused by that? |
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| 21:59:39 | <bwolfe> yeah, so the problem is that hibernate tries to be smart |
| 21:59:58 | <nribeka1> tries to be smart bwolfe? |
| 22:00:43 | <bwolfe> it sees Users and Patients that have the same person_id it will give you the object that was loaded first |
| 22:01:34 | <nribeka1> is there any workaround for it bwolfe? |
| 22:01:49 | <bwolfe> nribeka1: for the saving, or the loading problem? |
| 22:01:57 | <nribeka1> loading |
| 22:02:20 | <nribeka1> when james arbaugh tries to extract his data he got this message |
| 22:11:50 | <bwolfe> nribeka1: hmm, loading is tough |
| 22:13:02 | <nribeka1> :( |
| 22:14:06 | <nribeka1> so, there's no way to avoid it? |
| 22:16:43 | <bwolfe> nribeka1: yeah, for now you have to make different users :-/ |
| 22:16:45 | <bwolfe> or different patients |
| 22:17:01 | <bwolfe> or just change your creator to be someone else |
| 22:17:53 | <nribeka1> wow, that's not an option i guess bwolfe :P |
| 22:18:06 | <nribeka1> it's a production data |
| 22:18:18 | <bwolfe> nribeka1: well, thats the only one I know of :-/ |
| 22:18:25 | <nribeka1> ups ... |
| 22:18:26 | <nribeka1> :( |
| 22:18:36 | <bwolfe> nribeka1: he probably didn't get the data in there via openmrs, so I'm guessing it was loaded in by him manually |
| 22:18:41 | <bwolfe> so he could change it :-p |
| 22:18:45 | <nribeka1> hahahaha |
| 22:18:48 | <nribeka1> ah ic ic |
| 22:19:01 | <nribeka1> i will copy and paste this explanation then bwolfe |
| 22:19:12 | <nribeka1> and i will explain to james egg too :D |
| 22:19:17 | <nribeka1> or you can bwolfe |
| 22:19:21 | <bwolfe> hehe |
| 22:19:26 | <nribeka1> you guys are just a few cubicle away |
| 22:19:28 | <nribeka1> hahaha ... |
| 22:19:29 | <bwolfe> nribeka1: I need to send an email about this |
| 22:19:36 | <bwolfe> an email to the dev list |
| 22:19:42 | <bwolfe> but james is gone for the day I think |
| 22:20:33 | <nribeka1> ah ic ic |
| 22:20:34 | <nribeka1> ok ok |
| 22:20:42 | <nribeka1> i will be looking forward to read the email :D |
| 22:21:28 | <nribeka1> is it an active bug? |
| 22:21:35 | <bwolfe> nribeka1: you should still send them email |
| 22:21:43 | <bwolfe> yes, its in trac as a bug already I think |
| 22:22:22 | <nribeka1> ok ok. i will also refer to your email :) |
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| 22:46:56 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1133 (task closed): Extension Point in <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1133> |