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<Keelhaul> hi bwolfe
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<bwolfe> hi Keelhaul
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: it would be nice if a concept could support multiple units, along with normal/critical ranges for each
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<Keelhaul> and maybe also different ranges for men and women
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<Keelhaul> btw, i ended up flushing my db and re-creating =/
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: different units on the same concept can't be done
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<Keelhaul> couldnt find the error
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<Keelhaul> why not
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<bwolfe> because the numbers are completely different that get stored
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<bwolfe> a different unit is a whole different kind of question
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<Keelhaul> hmm
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<bwolfe> "how many miles did you walk to get here"
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<Keelhaul> depends
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<Keelhaul> hm
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<Keelhaul> yea
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<bwolfe> "how many kilometers did you wakl to get here"
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<bwolfe> but obs.value_numeric only stores an integer
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<Keelhaul> but what if you ask "how far did you walk to get here (km)?"
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<bwolfe> the user needs to enter in kilometers
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<Keelhaul> yea, it would also need a value_unit or smt
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<bwolfe> and in my eyes, thats not even close to worth it :-)
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<bwolfe> because then you just put a larger demand on the reporting engine
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<Keelhaul> true
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<bwolfe> when its very easily solved by having two different concepts
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<Keelhaul> but it could be made cross-unit with proper conversions
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<Keelhaul> but yea, lots of work
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<bwolfe> yes, the data entry screen could have boxes for miles, kilometers, inches, etc
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<Keelhaul> what about different ranges for genders
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<bwolfe> and do the conversion to km to be stored
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<bwolfe> thats an interesting one
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<bwolfe> I'm not sure how people are doing that
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<bwolfe> surely they are not creating two different concepts...
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<Keelhaul> i've been entering value ranges for some concepts, looking up the typical values on wiki
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<Keelhaul> and some have different numbers for men and women
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<Keelhaul> does anyone even use the ranges
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<bwolfe> we only use a few ranges...mainly for ones that come off of machines
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: send that out to the impl list and see what people say
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<Keelhaul> oh hm
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<Keelhaul> i dont wanna register there =P
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<Keelhaul> already enough mail to read every day
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<bwolfe> add in alternate ranges for men/women wouldn't be /extremely/ difficult, but it would be nice to know if there are alternatives
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: filters...
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: its all about mail filters
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<bwolfe> and the impl list gets less mail than the dev list anyway
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<Keelhaul> yea i noticed form the feed
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<Keelhaul> from*
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<Keelhaul> btw
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<Keelhaul> is there an automated way to calculate BMI
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<Keelhaul> or is that a manual concept
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<Keelhaul> i have a patient search for obese patients, which uses bmi
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<Keelhaul> and i was wondering whether anyone even uses that concept
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<Keelhaul> or just enters weight and height
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: I think people usually use weight/height
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<bwolfe> darius wrote a helper function for it
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<Keelhaul> the dashboard does the calculation i think
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<bwolfe> I think its displayed on the dashboard using his function
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<Keelhaul> but there's no way to do it in the reports
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<bwolfe> yeah
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<Keelhaul> so i have to use bmi
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<bwolfe> hmm
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<Keelhaul> what's more common, outside the US, mg/dl or mmol?
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: I don't know :-/
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<Keelhaul> how about in the US
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<Keelhaul> i tohught mg/dl sounds metrical but it seems the US use it
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: I don't know on that one either
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<Keelhaul> =/
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [6247]: formentry 1.4.x branch: Fixed taskpane to include concept-name-id when ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/6247>
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<nribeka> exams is over ....
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Justin Miranda: On user feedback <http://blog.justinmiranda.com/2008/12/on-user-feedback.html>
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [6253]: Applying patch #1133 author: efoxepstein <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/6253>
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<nribeka> bwolfe_, i have a question
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<nribeka> :D
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<nribeka> is it possible for a patient to become a user, bwolfe?
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<bwolfe> nribeka: yes, technically it is
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<bwolfe> nribeka: but it throws errors right now
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<bwolfe> due to a bug with the way we're doing users, etc
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<nribeka> so with the current release, there will be no chance a user is replaced by patient right bwolfe?
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<nribeka> i mean it won't go through to the database
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<bwolfe> nribeka: it can happen
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<nribeka> it can?
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<nribeka> so, if we got this exception:
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<nribeka> [2008-12-07 12:37:05]IllegalArgumentException in class: org.openmrs.Person, setter method of property: personChangedBy
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<nribeka> [2008-12-07 12:37:05]expected type: org.openmrs.User, actual value: org.openmrs.Patient
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<bwolfe> but the problem is that hibernate throws an error if both a patient and user are the same person_id on the same object
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<bwolfe> yes, that is the type of error
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<nribeka1> hmm ic ic
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<nribeka> it is caused by that?
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<bwolfe> yeah, so the problem is that hibernate tries to be smart
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<nribeka1> tries to be smart bwolfe?
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<bwolfe> it sees Users and Patients that have the same person_id it will give you the object that was loaded first
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<nribeka1> is there any workaround for it bwolfe?
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<bwolfe> nribeka1: for the saving, or the loading problem?
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<nribeka1> loading
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<nribeka1> when james arbaugh tries to extract his data he got this message
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<bwolfe> nribeka1: hmm, loading is tough
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<nribeka1> :(
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<nribeka1> so, there's no way to avoid it?
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<bwolfe> nribeka1: yeah, for now you have to make different users :-/
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<bwolfe> or different patients
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<bwolfe> or just change your creator to be someone else
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<nribeka1> wow, that's not an option i guess bwolfe :P
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<nribeka1> it's a production data
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<bwolfe> nribeka1: well, thats the only one I know of :-/
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<nribeka1> ups ...
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<nribeka1> :(
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<bwolfe> nribeka1: he probably didn't get the data in there via openmrs, so I'm guessing it was loaded in by him manually
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<bwolfe> so he could change it :-p
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<nribeka1> hahahaha
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<nribeka1> ah ic ic
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<nribeka1> i will copy and paste this explanation then bwolfe
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<nribeka1> and i will explain to james egg too :D
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<nribeka1> or you can bwolfe
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<bwolfe> hehe
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<nribeka1> you guys are just a few cubicle away
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<nribeka1> hahaha ...
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<bwolfe> nribeka1: I need to send an email about this
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<bwolfe> an email to the dev list
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<bwolfe> but james is gone for the day I think
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<nribeka1> ah ic ic
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<nribeka1> ok ok
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<nribeka1> i will be looking forward to read the email :D
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<nribeka1> is it an active bug?
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<bwolfe> nribeka1: you should still send them email
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<bwolfe> yes, its in trac as a bug already I think
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<nribeka1> ok ok. i will also refer to your email :)
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<OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #1133 (task closed): Extension Point in <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/1133>
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