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| 06:59:45 | <quadelirus> Can someone walk me through the process of creating a form for the form entry module |
| 06:59:45 | <quadelirus> What I think I'm supposed to do is this: |
| 07:00:17 | <nribeka> hi quadelirus, everyone is sleeping i think :D |
| 07:00:27 | <quadelirus> Duplicate the basic form |
| 07:00:27 | <quadelirus> download the XSN |
| 07:00:37 | <quadelirus> modify the XSN in InfoPath |
| 07:00:37 | <quadelirus> upload changes |
| 07:01:50 | <quadelirus> rebuild XSN |
| 07:01:50 | <quadelirus> or something like that |
| 07:02:51 | <nribeka> quadelirus, i think you can either check the wiki or mailing list |
| 07:03:01 | <nribeka> or you can post your question there :D |
| 07:03:01 | <quadelirus> but it doesn't work at all. |
| 07:03:01 | <quadelirus> yeah, =D it's 10 AM here though. |
| 07:03:11 | <nribeka> 2 AM :D |
| 07:03:12 | <quadelirus> makes it difficult to call home when everyone is 7 hours different. :) |
| 07:03:48 | <quadelirus> :) I've looked on the wiki |
| 07:03:55 | <quadelirus> is there a way to search mailing list archives? |
| 07:06:31 | <quadelirus> the wiki hasn't helped because I follow the processes exactly with no luck |
| 07:06:49 | <nribeka> have u look here quadelirus? |
| 07:06:50 | <nribeka> http://openmrs.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_OpenMRS |
| 07:07:13 | <quadelirus> yep, been there |
| 07:07:36 | <nribeka> how about this one? |
| 07:07:37 | <nribeka> https://listserv.iupui.edu/cgi-bin/wa-iupui.exe?A2=ind0808&L=openmrs-devel-l&T=0&F=&S=&P=184370 |
| 07:07:37 | <quadelirus> it doesn't have my specific error message |
| 07:07:40 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/2RP+> (at listserv.iupui.edu) |
| 07:07:53 | <quadelirus> I have emailed the mailing list |
| 07:08:56 | <nribeka> are u eurico jose quadelirus? |
| 07:09:10 | <quadelirus> but the last email I got made me think that maybe I'm confused about the process |
| 07:09:21 | <quadelirus> hence my coming here to ask how its supposed to be done. |
| 07:09:21 | <quadelirus> Nope, I'll check that out |
| 07:09:29 | <quadelirus> no, John Bowers |
| 07:10:57 | <nribeka> i'm sorry i'm not the formentry expert :) |
| 07:11:07 | <nribeka> you can check tomorrow morning i think :D |
| 07:11:10 | <quadelirus> that's fine. |
| 07:11:19 | <quadelirus> thx tho |
| 07:11:30 | <quadelirus> meaning tonight for me :) |
| 07:11:46 | <nribeka> yeps |
| 07:15:03 | <quadelirus> why do we use infopath at all in openmrs, why aren't the forms web-based? |
| 07:16:37 | <nribeka> i think it's because easy to create form using infopath (if i remember it correctly) |
| 07:28:56 | <quadelirus> I see a lot of talk on installing cabextract on linux based openmrs installations |
| 07:30:03 | <quadelirus> is a cab extract program already included in the Windows install? |
| 07:30:03 | <quadelirus> Is that a windows tool? |
| 07:30:03 | <quadelirus> (I hate windows) |
| 07:32:12 | <nribeka> i think it's a program to open windows .cab file |
| 07:32:30 | <nribeka> so, i think windows already have it |
| 07:32:31 | <nribeka> :D |
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| 08:20:47 | <rryan> One problem on Linux, is that OpenMRS looks for cabextract in /usr/local/bin instead of just on your path. I.e. it assumes you installed it from source. |
| 08:26:39 | <quadelirus> rryan, do you know the process for designing a form |
| 08:26:55 | <rryan> I think I'm having just about as much trouble as you are :) |
| 08:27:19 | <rryan> I download teh XSN, open with InfoPath, resubmit it.. and then ... nothing |
| 08:27:25 | <quadelirus> ah. shoot. |
| 08:27:46 | <quadelirus> ah. mine won't even download |
| 08:27:49 | <rryan> Yes, and I have no idea how to actually enter data on a form. |
| 08:28:01 | <rryan> after the form is made |
| 08:28:01 | <quadelirus> but probably unrelated. |
| 08:28:20 | <quadelirus> it seems to me that this infopath business is really the wrong way to go |
| 08:29:17 | <rryan> Hmm. It seems to break the flow of a nice, well put together web application, to have to download something, go to another application (a microsoft app, which limits you to Windows, btw), and do something.. |
| 08:30:42 | <quadelirus> if you can generate an infopath form you can generate an html form on a jsp |
| 08:30:42 | <quadelirus> and have the user fill it in in the browser |
| 08:31:54 | <quadelirus> and not bother with any of this microsoft infopath or openoffice xform stuff |
| 08:33:07 | <quadelirus> one less thing for a sys admin to worry about having installed and configured |
| 08:33:09 | <rryan> Well, I imagine there have to be reasons that it is used |
| 08:33:56 | <rryan> there's probably some complex issue it solves.. but the simple case of making a basic form, and allowing people to fill it out via a web form, is overly complicated by it |
| 08:34:06 | <quadelirus> yep. If my net connection was faster I'd download the source code and work on a formentry-html module |
| 08:35:28 | <quadelirus> but unfortunately email and irc are about as good as it gets around here (it took me 2 weeks to download the openmrs installer) |
| 08:35:56 | <rryan> wow.. reminds me of my dialup days |
| 08:36:10 | <quadelirus> I'm still trying to get eclipse at the moment but its been downloading for quite awhile and its at 30% |
| 08:36:20 | <rryan> that must be frustrating |
| 08:36:30 | <quadelirus> potentially but it would be nice to have a basic hassle free web version to fall back on |
| 08:36:37 | <quadelirus> yeah i get like 7kbps download best |
| 08:37:01 | <rryan> I remember downloading linux took me 3 days on a 28.8 kbps modem... and I thought that was a long time.. I can't imagine downloading for 14 days :) |
| 08:37:28 | <quadelirus> yep. better than a week ago though. This is a cell phone modem, the satellite uplink we had before was horrendous. |
| 08:39:53 | <quadelirus> yeah. I'm trying to get linux right now too. but it is going to take forever. |
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| 14:27:17 | <nribeka> !svn |
| 14:27:17 | <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: Error: "svn" is not a valid command. |
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| 18:44:51 | <nribeka> bwolfe, i have question |
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| 18:48:42 | <bwolfe> yes nribeka ? |
| 18:49:08 | <nribeka> what happen if openmrs-runtime.properties is not found in the system? |
| 18:49:16 | <bwolfe> nribeka: right now ? |
| 18:49:30 | <nribeka> in an installation |
| 18:49:53 | <nribeka> i try to do Context.getRuntimeProperties() on a system that has no openmrs-runtime.properties |
| 18:50:00 | <nribeka> but i get NPE |
| 18:50:43 | <bwolfe> ah yes, because none was set up |
| 18:51:43 | <nribeka> so what should i do to get the runtime properties? |
| 18:52:11 | <bwolfe> nribeka: there are defaults in /metadata/api/hibernate |
| 18:53:16 | <bwolfe> currently the HibernateSessionFactoryBean merges those defaults and the runtime properties at startup and hands those off to hibernate |
| 18:53:39 | <nribeka> ah ic ic. this is what causing the NPE |
| 18:54:12 | <nribeka> the key is hibernate.connection.username instead of connection.username |
| 18:54:16 | <nribeka> right bwolfe? |
| 18:55:02 | <bwolfe> yeah |
| 18:55:25 | <bwolfe> but that HibernateSessionFactoryBean will add the "hibernate." part if its not there already |
| 18:57:15 | <nribeka> so if i use the first key (hibernate.connection.username) i still going to get value from openmrs-runtime.properties or from hibernate.default.properties if the openmrs-runtime.properties is not exist bwolfe? |
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| 18:58:32 | <bwolfe> nribeka: hmm, no, unfortunately not |
| 18:58:49 | <bwolfe> I don't think the default properties are saved back to the runtime properties |
| 18:59:12 | <bwolfe> why do you want to do this nribeka ? why not just use getConnection() from hibernate ? |
| 19:00:43 | <nribeka> how bwolfe? |
| 19:02:49 | <bwolfe> Connection = sessionFactory.getCurrentSession().connection() I think |
| 19:27:06 | <nribeka> i always gets "java.sql.SQLException: You can't operate on a closed Statement!!!" using this way bwolfe |
| 19:27:33 | <bwolfe> are you closing the connection first nribeka ? |
| 19:28:30 | <nribeka> nope. we close the connection at the end of the process |
| 19:29:18 | <bwolfe> nribeka: you have to get a new connection each time |
| 19:29:25 | <bwolfe> each call anyway |
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| 19:29:47 | <nribeka> so each call to the database operation we need to call that connection() ? |
| 19:30:40 | <bwolfe> if its in a new method, yes |
| 19:30:54 | <bwolfe> because the connections are pooled and you don't know when something has been closed since you were last called |
| 19:31:21 | <nribeka> ah yes, we do database operation in different methods |
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| 19:47:24 | <Keelhaul> i hate writing abstracts |
| 19:47:27 | <Keelhaul> and i hate echidna |
| 19:47:34 | <Keelhaul> it's been crashing lately |
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| 20:07:34 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: isn't Echidna your other nick? |
| 20:38:53 | <nribeka> bwolfe |
| 20:39:36 | <bwolfe> nribeka: |
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| 20:40:48 | <nribeka> is it mutually exclusive |
| 20:41:11 | <nribeka> so if there's no openmrs-runtime.properties --> then the default will be loaded? |
| 20:41:13 | <bwolfe> nribeka: is what mutually exclusive? |
| 20:41:21 | <bwolfe> no |
| 20:41:40 | <bwolfe> nribeka: if a runtime properties is defined, it will loop over the default ones and add in ones that weren't in the file |
| 20:42:32 | <nribeka> bwolfe i'm off |
| 20:42:38 | <nribeka> i will talk to you again laterz |
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| 21:06:27 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: echidna is my server in the kitchen |
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