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| 03:49:22 | <nribeka> bwolfe, |
| 03:49:25 | <nribeka> are u there? |
| 03:49:38 | <bwolfe> yep, whats up ? |
| 03:50:59 | <nribeka> do you use yourkit bwolfe? |
| 03:51:37 | <nribeka> i want to profile tomcat with yourkit but it seems that yourkit change the startup.sh and make it unable to start :D |
| 03:51:45 | <nribeka> any idea bwolfe? |
| 03:52:12 | <bwolfe> I've only used it in windows |
| 03:52:50 | <nribeka> ah ic ic |
| 03:52:56 | <nribeka> i get it working on windows |
| 03:52:59 | <nribeka> but not in linux |
| 03:53:07 | <nribeka> guess i have to use windows ... |
| 03:53:08 | <nribeka> :( |
| 03:54:16 | <r0bby> hai |
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| 03:54:56 | <maveriick> hi nribeka |
| 03:55:06 | <nribeka> hi maveriick |
| 03:55:08 | <nribeka> hi r0bby |
| 03:55:38 | <maveriick> nribeka, I am just checking the irc logs and see you had problems with yourkit? |
| 03:55:46 | <nribeka> yeps |
| 03:55:53 | <maveriick> i used it in linux but not with tomcat, with weblogic. ... |
| 03:56:05 | <nribeka> ah ... i'm using tomcat 5.5 |
| 03:56:06 | <nribeka> :( |
| 03:56:21 | <maveriick> What happened when you are going to start tomcat with the modified script? |
| 03:56:49 | <nribeka> runs fine but when i try to open localhost |
| 03:56:51 | <nribeka> it stuck |
| 03:57:00 | <nribeka> now i revert it back, still stuck |
| 03:57:08 | <nribeka> i guess something is wrong with my tomcat |
| 03:57:24 | <nribeka> let me restart first |
| 03:58:07 | <maveriick> Also please check your localhost and catalina.out ...to get the actual exception/error occurring. |
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| 04:06:07 | <nribeka> restarting |
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| 17:21:02 | <nribeka> !help |
| 17:21:02 | <OpenMRSBot> nribeka: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. |
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| 19:28:17 | <nribeka> hi all |
| 19:30:07 | <Keelhaul> hi |
| 19:30:34 | <nribeka> does anyone know how to add feedback to web UI? |
| 19:30:51 | <nribeka> like progress bar or something like that but the indeterministic one |
| 19:30:53 | <nribeka> :D |
| 19:30:59 | <nribeka> ah nevermind ... |
| 19:31:02 | <nribeka> hi Keelhaul :) |
| 19:51:28 | <r0bby> nribeka: probably via ajax |
| 19:53:14 | <nribeka> dwr r0bby? |
| 19:54:34 | <r0bby> hrm i dunno |
| 19:54:48 | <r0bby> prototype/scriptaculous may have something |
| 19:54:52 | <r0bby> i dunno |
| 19:55:19 | <r0bby> jquery too possibly |
| 19:55:23 | <nribeka> prototype/scriptaculous? |
| 19:55:25 | <nribeka> :P |
| 19:55:31 | <r0bby> docpaul: hai!!! |
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| 20:01:28 | <r0bby> oh i see |
| 20:01:31 | <r0bby> he quits when i say hi |
| 20:01:39 | <r0bby> I see how it is now! |
| 20:04:07 | <nribeka> haha ... :D |
| 20:04:15 | <nribeka> he scared of you rob :) |
| 20:05:01 | <r0bby> I didn't do anything to him |
| 20:05:08 | <r0bby> unless you count that time with the thing |
| 20:10:04 | <bwolfe> r0bby: I'll bet it was his wife using his laptop today |
| 20:10:20 | <bwolfe> paul usually has clinic on tuesday...so I don't see why/how he could be on |
| 20:10:40 | <bwolfe> basic`: do you know which apache memory model osu uses ? |
| 20:11:03 | <r0bby> pfft |
| 20:11:04 | <r0bby> clinic |
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| 20:11:46 | <bwolfe> basic`: is it prefork mpm or worker mpm ? |
| 20:12:11 | <jacobb> bwolfe, do you think it's an issue that if you log out of openmrs, then log back in (as the same or a *different* user), it goes back to whatever page/patient you were viewing? |
| 20:14:53 | <bwolfe> jacobb: yeah, thats a bit off. the logout option should take that out |
| 20:15:14 | <bwolfe> the problem is the login.htm page tries to go to the "referer" page |
| 20:16:37 | <jacobb> yeah it doesn't seem like a big issue to me, people that don't have permissions will be locked out. Something that might be changed in a future version though? |
| 20:18:05 | <bwolfe> jacobb: yeah, potentially |
| 20:18:12 | <bwolfe> if a ticket and patch are submitted by someone |
| 20:18:13 | <bwolfe> :-p |
| 20:28:53 | <nribeka> the one who will submit it is the one who has bwolfe as the id :) |
| 20:29:27 | <bwolfe> nribeka: I was hoping it would be jacobb :-) |
| 20:41:37 | <jacobb> hahah |
| 20:41:47 | <jacobb> last time i tried to use trac it was read only |
| 20:41:50 | <jacobb> that was yesterday |
| 20:41:53 | <jacobb> is it still? |
| 21:01:07 | <bwolfe> jacobb: it has been read/write for 3 days |
| 21:01:26 | <bwolfe> what url are you using? |
| 21:01:33 | <bwolfe> what do you get when you ping dev.openmrs.org ? |
| 21:01:39 | <bwolfe> do you have anything in your host file ? |
| 21:01:47 | <jacobb> nothin |
| 21:02:33 | <jacobb> hm i can remove a new issue, i just don't have any options on a current ticket |
| 21:02:52 | <bwolfe> jacobb: clear you cache ? |
| 21:02:59 | <bwolfe> not sure what else could be doing it |
| 21:03:05 | <jacobb> http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/848 |
| 21:03:16 | <jacobb> shouldn't i see more than just the ticket and change history? |
| 21:03:57 | <jacobb> oh weird |
| 21:04:02 | <jacobb> looks like i don't have create privileges anymore |
| 21:04:14 | <jacobb> http://dev.openmrs.org/newticket gives me forbidden: TICKET_CREATE privileges are required to perform this operation |
| 21:04:46 | <bwolfe> are you logged in ? |
| 21:04:57 | <jacobb> yeah |
| 21:05:00 | <jacobb> let me re-log in |
| 21:05:00 | <bwolfe> james arbaugh was having issues where it wouldn't keep him logged in |
| 21:05:11 | <jacobb> i mean, it says i'm logged in |
| 21:05:20 | <jacobb> but i usually have to log in a couple times |
| 21:05:23 | <jacobb> to get into trac |
| 21:05:26 | <jacobb> and it didn't ask me that.. |
| 21:05:33 | <jacobb> up top it does say welcome, jacobb |
| 21:06:16 | <jacobb> same problem. |
| 21:06:45 | <bwolfe> jmiranda: did you ever re-enable permissions on trac |
| 21:06:46 | <bwolfe> ? |
| 21:07:06 | <bwolfe> I'm not seeing any permissions for "implementer" for anything |
| 21:07:14 | <jmiranda> i thought i had made the db dump before i made those changes |
| 21:07:14 | <jmiranda> let me check |
| 21:09:00 | <jmiranda> nope |
| 21:09:01 | <jmiranda> weird |
| 21:09:19 | <jmiranda> how are developers able to create tickets |
| 21:09:24 | <jmiranda> i'm adding them back in now |
| 21:11:05 | <bwolfe> jmiranda: developers inherit from implementers |
| 21:11:27 | <bwolfe> jmiranda: did we used to have some privs for AUTHENTICATED in there? |
| 21:11:31 | <jmiranda> but implementers don't have create privilege, so therefore developers shouldn't either |
| 21:11:39 | <bwolfe> I thought creating was open to anyone that is authenticated |
| 21:11:39 | <jmiranda> i just added in the authenticated one |
| 21:11:51 | <jmiranda> but it wasn't there a few minutes ago |
| 21:12:01 | <bwolfe> right, so for the last few days the only people that could edit were the TRAC_ADMINS |
| 21:13:19 | <jmiranda> oh wait |
| 21:13:22 | <jacobb> works now |
| 21:13:29 | <jmiranda> :) sorry |
| 21:13:34 | <jmiranda> wrong face |
| 21:13:36 | <jmiranda> :( |
| 21:13:54 | <jacobb> np, i thought it was just still read only |
| 21:23:07 | <Keelhaul> hey, what can make concept search not work? |
| 21:23:10 | <Keelhaul> as in no results |
| 21:23:33 | <Keelhaul> i have two installations, both 1.40.0.20.something |
| 21:23:41 | <Keelhaul> one has working concept search, the other doesnt |
| 21:24:03 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: you have to run Update Concept Words |
| 21:24:09 | <bwolfe> in the admin section |
| 21:24:31 | <Keelhaul> did |
| 21:24:36 | <Keelhaul> twice even |
| 21:24:41 | <Keelhaul> waited long enough too |
| 21:25:47 | <bwolfe> check your concept_word table |
| 21:25:50 | <bwolfe> does it have entries? |
| 21:26:06 | <Keelhaul> hold on |
| 21:26:07 | <bwolfe> what locale are you logged in with ? |
| 21:26:12 | <Keelhaul> gotta use putty |
| 21:26:54 | <Keelhaul> hm both seem to have only one |
| 21:26:56 | <Keelhaul> en_UK |
| 21:27:05 | <Keelhaul> or GB |
| 21:28:02 | <Keelhaul> hm |
| 21:28:07 | <Keelhaul> concept_word is empty indeed |
| 21:28:10 | <Keelhaul> how come |
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| 21:31:16 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: because that update concept words isn't executing correctly |
| 21:31:24 | <bwolfe> anything in your tomcat logs ? |
| 21:31:37 | <Keelhaul> if there is i'm not sure how where they would be |
| 21:31:42 | <Keelhaul> it's a ubuntu installation |
| 21:36:12 | <Keelhaul> hmm |
| 21:36:34 | <Keelhaul> ok i just exported the concets from my local installation and run the script in the other |
| 21:36:38 | <Keelhaul> concepts* |
| 21:37:23 | <Keelhaul> it's strange though, my local db updateed fine, cept i first had 1.40.0.18 and then .20 |
| 21:37:31 | <Keelhaul> and the other went from pre-merge straight to .20 |
| 21:47:14 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: logs in unix are usually collected in /var/logs |
| 21:47:27 | <bwolfe> err /var/log |
| 21:47:45 | <bwolfe> that said, my tomcat logs are not linked from /var/log :-/ |
| 21:48:10 | <bwolfe> you might be able to type "whereis tomcat" to find it |
| 21:48:20 | <bwolfe> (where "it" == the tomcat home directory) |
| 21:48:53 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: any idea where all the other languages went? |
| 21:50:21 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: they are admin-specified via a global property (for now) |
| 21:50:22 | <Keelhaul> ok i found the tomcat logs it seems |
| 21:50:25 | <Keelhaul> they are in var/log |
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| 21:50:48 | <bwolfe> there needs to be a page that lets the admin set the "available" locales via a drop down box |
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| 21:52:01 | <Keelhaul> i guess |
| 21:52:28 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: remember that devlist conversation about data entry via cell phones? |
| 21:52:54 | <bwolfe> vaguly |
| 21:53:11 | <bwolfe> (sp?) |
| 21:53:19 | <bwolfe> vaguely |
| 21:53:48 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: what would it take to make openmrs support that |
| 21:53:54 | <Keelhaul> just a wap extension of the webapp? |
| 21:54:58 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: not sure |
| 21:55:02 | <bwolfe> a change in stylesheet ? |
| 21:55:22 | <bwolfe> is wap really a different protocol? I don't know much about it... |
| 21:55:33 | <Keelhaul> me neither |
| 21:55:45 | <Keelhaul> but from my experience, mobile internet isnt that cheap |
| 21:55:58 | <Keelhaul> i remember when i got my pda phone, i set it up to go online whenever it wants |
| 21:56:02 | <Keelhaul> by accident |
| 21:56:06 | <Keelhaul> and it did, several times a day |
| 21:56:13 | <Keelhaul> for a a bit less than a week |
| 21:56:23 | <Keelhaul> that was 50 euros more to pay that month =/ |
| 21:56:28 | <bwolfe> yeah |
| 21:56:32 | <bwolfe> similar in the US |
| 21:56:42 | <Keelhaul> if oyu havea data plan, no problem |
| 21:56:44 | <bwolfe> normally data plans are $40 more per month |
| 21:56:56 | <Keelhaul> but i wonder whether there are flat fees in africa |
| 21:57:25 | <bwolfe> yes, you can get some all-you-can-eat data plans |
| 21:57:38 | <bwolfe> but most people pay per-megabute |
| 21:57:44 | <bwolfe> *megabyte |
| 21:57:58 | <bwolfe> its actually fairly cheap there to pay per mb |
| 21:58:18 | <Keelhaul> i dont think we can pay by volume nowadays |
| 21:58:21 | <Keelhaul> used to be possible |
| 21:58:25 | <Keelhaul> now standard is 9 cents a minute |
| 21:58:36 | <Keelhaul> and thats only because the EU capped the price there |
| 21:58:39 | <Keelhaul> would be more otherwise |
| 22:18:33 | <jacobb> yeah about $40/month sounds right for unlimited mobile data on any of our carriers |
| 22:18:48 | <jacobb> that's if you want the ability to legally tether it to your computer though |
| 22:19:04 | <Keelhaul> is there any technical restriction if you dont? |
| 22:19:06 | <jacobb> most networks have unlimited mobile data for about $10-$20/month if you just use it on your phone |
| 22:19:10 | <Keelhaul> or is it just "illegal2 |
| 22:19:15 | <Keelhaul> " |
| 22:19:22 | <jacobb> depends on the phone |
| 22:19:39 | <jacobb> ever since a couple years ago they started adding restrictions on the phone where htey could tell if you were tethering |
| 22:19:43 | <jacobb> at least on sprint and verizon |
| 22:20:02 | <jacobb> but i know on my old phone I paid $10/month for unlimited internet and could tether just fine |
| 22:20:25 | <jacobb> and on the iphone someone released an app that allowed you to do it w/out paying any extra...that got taken off the app store though |
| 22:20:27 | <Keelhaul> oh yea |
| 22:20:44 | <Keelhaul> i heard US carriers hardcode their phones |
| 22:20:45 | <nribeka> cydia :D |
| 22:20:47 | <Keelhaul> you dont even get a SIM |
| 22:20:53 | <jacobb> yeah verizon and sprint don't have a sim |
| 22:20:56 | <jacobb> att and tmobile do |
| 22:21:52 | <jacobb> sprint phones have something called "NAI" that make it detectable if you tether |
| 22:22:16 | <Keelhaul> jeez |
| 22:22:33 | <jacobb> i think it's only an extra $15/month to pay for tethering though |
| 22:22:38 | <jacobb> with any phone |
| 22:23:50 | <bwolfe> jacobb: I have a "normal" data plan on sprint and tether just fine...illegally |
| 22:23:58 | <bwolfe> but it was a simple program install |
| 22:24:36 | <bwolfe> vzw and att both only have the $40-45 data plans |
| 22:24:56 | <bwolfe> I've never heard of a big telco offering it for only 10-20 rercently |
| 22:24:58 | <bwolfe> *recently |
| 22:26:19 | <jacobb> it's 15 on top of unlimited data |
| 22:26:32 | <jacobb> so first you have your phone plan...then you have unlimited data, then you have tethering |
| 22:26:48 | <jacobb> at least that's what i was offered like a year or two ago on sprint |
| 22:27:03 | <jacobb> anyway, what program did you install? :) |
| 22:28:21 | <bwolfe> yeah, it was 15 on sprint back then. not sure its that low anymore. I'm on the SERO plan with sprint...so its very cheap for me :-) |
| 22:28:47 | <jacobb> yeah..too bad they cancelled that |
| 22:29:10 | <jacobb> $30 flat for 500ish mins and unlimited data and unlimited texts....crazy |
| 22:29:49 | <bwolfe> jacobb: I used pdanet when I was on windows, and now I use USBModem for ubuntu |
| 22:30:07 | <bwolfe> jacobb: yep. my wife and I are on that...probably for life. :-p |
| 22:30:17 | <jacobb> nice |
| 22:30:25 | <jacobb> i woulda done it but i want an iphone... |
| 22:30:26 | <jacobb> =\ |
| 22:30:32 | <bwolfe> heh |
| 22:30:49 | <bwolfe> are you still lusting for one, or did you get one ? |
| 22:30:56 | <jacobb> still lusting |
| 22:31:05 | <jacobb> sprint contract expires in january |
| 22:31:10 | <bwolfe> ah |
| 22:31:26 | <bwolfe> there might be some other sweet google phones by then... :-) |
| 22:31:44 | <Keelhaul> oh |
| 22:31:49 | <Keelhaul> i read a bit about android |
| 22:31:53 | <Keelhaul> and it seems not so great |
| 22:32:11 | <Keelhaul> it only allows java applications, and doesnt even fully comply with java |
| 22:33:23 | <Keelhaul> Another issue is related to Android's disregard of established Java standards, i.e. Java SE and ME. This prevents compatibility among Java applications written for those platforms and those for the Android platform. Android only reuses the Java language syntax, but does not provide the full-class libraries and APIs bundled with Java SE or ME, instead using the Apache Harmony Java implementation.[56] |
| 22:34:08 | <jacobb> yeah but you can just use the android eclipse sdk |
| 22:34:16 | <jacobb> it's kinda neat |
| 22:34:32 | <jacobb> but i'm not a fan of the current hardware, and can't see any matching up to the iphone hardware |
| 22:34:47 | <Keelhaul> that means i'd have to compile everything myself |
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| 22:35:04 | <Keelhaul> yea the tmob phone is kinda ugly |
| 22:35:15 | <jacobb> i don't like hte curve it has\ |
| 22:35:19 | <jacobb> it's ok though |
| 22:36:22 | <Keelhaul> http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx?id=49518 |
| 22:36:24 | <Keelhaul> this looks great |
| 22:43:25 | <jacobb> what powers it, what OS |
| 22:43:30 | <jacobb> oh nm |
| 22:43:33 | <jacobb> i see the screenshot |
| 22:43:33 | <jacobb> haha |
| 22:44:16 | <jacobb> yeah it looks nice, though i have yet to use a touch screen i like besides the iPhones |
| 22:44:43 | <jacobb> the pressure sensitive LG dare works pretty well too, but other ones like the Samsung Glyde are so terrible my girlfriend had to return it |
| 22:44:43 | <Keelhaul> windows mobile has a few nice GUIs available |
| 22:44:49 | <Keelhaul> one imitates the iphone |
| 23:08:57 | <r0bby> the dare imitates the iphone. |
| 23:09:46 | <jacobb> yeah |
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