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<bmckown> jmiranda
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<jmiranda> bmckown
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<bmckown> I'm trying out yourkit profiler
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<bmckown> did you download just the trial license?
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<jmiranda> i asked bwolfe for a license way back in the day
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<bmckown> what happens when the license expires. Do you you have to uninstall it or can you add a new valid license after that without uninstalling etc.
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<bmckown> ?
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<jmiranda> i haven't actually used yourkit since then
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<bmckown> hmm
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<bmckown> I'm using a 15 day trial license.
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<jmiranda> you can add a license
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<jmiranda> that's fine
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<bmckown> just wondering if it's going to hose things if it sits around with an invalid license before I upgrade to a valid license.
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<bmckown> because i plan on using it on server in kenya.
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<bmckown> it's pretty cool, actually.
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<jmiranda> bmckown, yeah, it's definitely a great tool
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<bmckown> yea it looks great. but can't really tell anything without using it when AMRS is in real-time use.
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<bmckown> doesn't do much good to look at the output while it's running on my laptop that is.
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<jmiranda> actually, i would argue that you should only use it on your laptop
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<bmckown> why so?
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<jmiranda> you can identify the potential bottleneck use cases from the production system, but I wouldn't try to run a profiler on it
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<jmiranda> profiling should be done in development
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<jmiranda> (with that said ...)
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<bmckown> but it looks like everything works fine until we're running in production... that's when they complain about memory leaks or tomcat running out of memory etc.
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<bmckown> and we've adjusted the tomcat memory settings before.
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<bmckown> uh... (with that said...) you were going to say something?
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<jmiranda> profilers have become a little better with not adding too much overhead, so i guess it might be worth it to run it for a little bit
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<jmiranda> but once you see what might be the issue, just use it in your dev environment
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<bmckown> yea. not for a long period of time. maybe a day. maybe once in awhile.
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<bwolfe> bmckown: I think its already on the server in kenya
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<bwolfe> bmckown / jmiranda : I have license keys somewhere for it ...
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<jmiranda> add load test software to your laptop (microsoft has a free one)
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<bmckown> yes. i'm just trying to get an idea of where there might be potential flaws.
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<bmckown> bwolfe, now that i'm downloading it i do see a previous version on the server.
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<jmiranda> throw 20 users at the "target" use case and see what you see
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<bmckown> is that more than just a 15 day license on it?
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<bwolfe> bmckown: the license I have is a free one for openmrs devs that they gave to us
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<bmckown> really? awesome.
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<jmiranda> bmckown, oh sorry ... i thought i said that already
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<bmckown> no. i didn't know that bwolfe had acquired a dev license.
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<jmiranda> he did
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<jmiranda> he got one
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<bmckown> i thought you were asking him for one and he didn't get back with you about it.
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<bmckown> ahh. cool!
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<bmckown> maybe i can use the updated version with his license. hmm.
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<bmckown> it's kind of a drag to try to log in as 20 different people doing data entry and data exports all from my laptop.
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<jmiranda> that's why you use load testing software
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<bmckown> we keep getting these "no sesson" errors. I'm not sure if we're running out of tomcat sessions, mysql sessions, or what exactly.
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<bmckown> load testing.
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<jmiranda> you have it capture a single session (Login, Create Patient, FInd Patient, etc)
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<jmiranda> and then you set the load test to run that use case with 20 users
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<bmckown> really? nice. I'll give it a try.
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<jmiranda> it can be the same user or you can parameterize it so that it logs in as a few different users
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<bmckown> few as in 30-40
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<jmiranda> you need to find a good load test tool though
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<jmiranda> try out a simple one like microsoft's web app load tester
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<jmiranda> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/itsolutions/intranet/downloads/webstres.mspx?mfr=true
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/25lK> (at www.microsoft.com)
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<bmckown> not for Windows Server 2003 64 bit?
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<jmiranda> and then you can move onto jmeter or opensta
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<jmiranda> i haven't used an open source load testing tool since opensta (a year ago), so i'm not familiar with any of the other projects
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<jmiranda> but there should be an easy-to-use tool by now
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<bmckown> okay
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<bwolfe> bmckown: I think it was sunny that did some load testing on openmrs already. there was an intern blog post about it
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<bmckown> i looked for his post and didn't find it. i remember something about him talking about it.
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<bmckown> i found yourkit and have been trying it out.
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<bmckown> from a previous e-mail from justin to the dev list.
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<bmckown> plus i need to find out for amrs from our own tests. it's good to read what others have found out, but then you have to verify that for yourself.
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<bmckown> thanks, justin.
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<bwolfe> bmckown: http://blog.eflow.org/archives/tag/memory and http://openmrs.org/wiki/Organizations
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<jmiranda> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6891978643577501895
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/25lW> (at video.google.com)
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<bmckown> okay... any more advice?
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<jmiranda> fyi, here's a google video about performance testing
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<jmiranda> i was trying to find the presenter's favorite tool, since i think google knows performance testing as well as anyone
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<jmiranda> (unfortunately, i've only downloaded the first 10 minutes and haven't found anything yet)
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<bmckown> I guess bwolfe what your saying is that i'm wasting my time because you've already done this?
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<bwolfe> bmckown: no, I'm sure you'll find something new
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<bwolfe> bmckown: did you check the number of tomcat sessions ?
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<bmckown> check in the tomcat settings?
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<bmckown> bwolfe what do you mean?
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<bwolfe> bmckown: yeah, I think its somewhere in our tomcat settings in eldoret...I don't /think/ its in core openmrs
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<bmckown> i can look... you say there is another license somewhere for yourkit or it's a shared license key?
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<bmckown> argh.
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<bmckown> i can look... you say there is another license somewhere for yourkit or it's a shared license key?
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<bmckown> ...
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<jmiranda> somewhere around the 21st minute, she starts talking about open source tools
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<bmckown> okay
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<bwolfe> bmckown: sent you a license key
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<bmckown> :-) thank you bwolfe
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<bmckown> sunbiz your skype connection is sparse?
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<bmckown> Or is it /could it be/ mine?
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<sunbiz> bmckown: nope.... its working fine !!
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<sunbiz> bmckown: didn't u get my msg now ??
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<bmckown> Yes. I got it and replied, just the reply took awhile to go through.
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<bmckown> the room? and skype is working slowly again.
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<sunbiz> yes... I sent 5 messages !!...and none of them delivered
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<bmckown> sent 3.
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<bmckown> boo on skype today.
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<sunbiz> bwolfe: yea... the ping works fine... but delivering msgs isnt working good enough
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<bwolfe> could be brian's connection...he's got that crappy wireless driver ;-) (...but if he's using ethernet, then yes, its definitely you! :-D)
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<bmckown> yea, bwolfe ... it shows sunbiz as on just that the icon is x'd
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<bmckown> i'm on the rg wired connection now.
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<bmckown> hehe. yea. crappy wireless driver is right.
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<nribeka> bmckown: are ur skype id is bmckown?
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<nribeka> what is your id bwolfe?
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<bmckown> yes.
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<bwolfe> nribeka: its on my user page... :-)
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<nribeka> haha bmckown is online :)
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<bwolfe> nribeka: I'm bawolfe on skype
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<bmckown> hi, nribeka
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<bmckown> got your skype.
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<bmckown> brb
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<nribeka> ok ok ...
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<huntp> guys, we're having some real trouble with the Context in the OpenMRS API
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<bwolfe_> huntp: this is with the cold fusion integration ?
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<bwolfe> and the clearUserContext isn't working for you ?
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<bwolfe> ping huntp
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<huntp> sorry ben - we're just about to start a job interview .... will be back in 1hr
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<bwolfe> np
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<huntp> nope - clearUserContext isn't working for us ...
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<huntp> great - really look forward to getting this sorted - and we are prepared to pay!!!! :)
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<bwolfe> not sure I could accept. but its a good thought. :-)
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<huntp_> jmiranda: hey, do you know if ben is going to be around later?
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<r0bby> what would cause my DWR service to not be properly registered
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<bwolfe> they're always muddling in people's dwr services
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<bwolfe> either that or a configuration error in your xml
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<bwolfe> but aliens are more likely
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<r0bby> I found out that my stuff worked fine w/o being in the servlet
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<r0bby> ?
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<huntp> hi Ben - is there any chance you might be able to help with our Context probs?
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<bwolfe> huntp: I can try...but I have approx zero knowledge of how coldfusion works. :-)
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<bwolfe> r0bby: I haven't seen anything like that before
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<huntp> that should be ok - given your knowledge of the API
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<r0bby> me either
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<r0bby> brb moar coffee
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<huntp> when would be a good time for you to help us do this? do you want to take this offline into an email discussion?
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<bwolfe> huntp: I'd rather the discussions be public. :-)
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<bwolfe> just for archiving purposes
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<bwolfe> brb. need to restart x
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<huntp> bwolfe: sure, no problem
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<huntp> wrt timing - when would suit you to do this?
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<bwolfe> well, I'm awake for another 30-60 mins. :-)
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<r0bby> bwolfe: what distro do you use?
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<r0bby> bwolfe
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<r0bby> you weakling
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<r0bby> sleep is for the weak
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<bwolfe> ubuntu
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<bwolfe> r0bby: you wake up at noon, give me a break
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<r0bby> 4pm today :P
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<huntp> i'm ubuntu too - with XP VM on virtualbox
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<bwolfe> I haven't tried virtualbox...how is that compared to vmware on memory ?
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<r0bby> excellent
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<r0bby> I cant use it
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<r0bby> I dont have spare resources
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<bwolfe> actually, how is that on finding my usb connected phone and giving me internet through that? :-) (vmware sucks at it)
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<huntp> i've been using it for 5+ months ... no probs
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<r0bby> I hope my verizon card has support for linux :<
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<huntp> dunno about phone - but, it finds my mouse!
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<r0bby> it found my usb webcam
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<huntp> it works on USB pass through or something - so, may work with your phone
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<r0bby> yeh it uses procfs
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<huntp> so, how can we screen share on ubuntu? i'm not sure if this is possible .... i usually use GotoMeeting in my Windows VM
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<bwolfe> hmm, I may have it give it a vb a whirl then
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<bwolfe> huntp: I use webhuddle usually
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<r0bby> nobody wants to see mine
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<r0bby> my space is cluttered
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<huntp> can we kick one off, and I'll call you?
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<bwolfe> skype is bawolfe
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<bwolfe> if that works for you
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<r0bby> huntp: want some candy?
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<huntp> robby: sure
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<huntp> bwolfe: phone number would be better if poss - could you send to philip.hunt at enigma.co.nz ?
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<Keelhaul> hi
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<bwolfe> yo
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<r0bby> I typed one of the vars in the signature element
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<bwolfe> see, xml config error r0bby :-)
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<bwolfe> ...caused by aliens of course
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<r0bby> ben, I have access to all spring stuff from DWR backend utility classes right?
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<r0bby> ie if i do Context.patientService.whatever
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<r0bby> oh wait yes
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<r0bby> nevermind
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: i read your mail about how extending objects isnt very good =/
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: only not good if multiple modules want to do the same thing
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: and right now the only two modules that do extending are both extending the encounter object :-p
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<Keelhaul> those by tmdugan?
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<bwolfe> yeah
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<Keelhaul> hm ok
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<Keelhaul> well i'm not gonna change anything now
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<Keelhaul> maybe later
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<Keelhaul> anyway
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<Keelhaul> i have a question
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<Keelhaul> if a module needs certain concepts to do some calculations
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<Keelhaul> e.g. weight in kg
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<Keelhaul> and it's not guaranteed that that concept will have the same id or name on two implementations
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: a global property
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<Keelhaul> is there a way to identify a concept, e.g. by a hl7 code
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<Keelhaul> ok
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: there are some concept ones already I think
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<Keelhaul> i was thinking either global prop or a new table
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<bwolfe> and I think theres one for weight
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<Keelhaul> waht's better
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<r0bby> hahaha
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<bwolfe> gp is better
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<Keelhaul> yes, weight was just an example
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<Keelhaul> hmm
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<Keelhaul> this could bloat the gp list a bit
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<Keelhaul> but i'll go with it
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<Keelhaul> heh
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<Keelhaul> btw
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<Keelhaul> arent obs supposed to be saveable w/o an encounter
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<Keelhaul> at least the data model is supposed to allow that, i think
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: I can't remember. I don't think so
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<Keelhaul> hm
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<Keelhaul> well it sure doesnt work in the webapp =P
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<Keelhaul> question is, whether it should be possible at all
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: if obs.encounter_id is nullable, then yes, its possible
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<Keelhaul> ak ok
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<Keelhaul> then it's just the webapp that wont allow it
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<Keelhaul> it gives an error if you leave the encounter field blank
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<Keelhaul> can i add a ticket for that or is it (admin panel->add obs) supposed to require an encounter?
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<r0bby> bwolfe
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<r0bby> is there a specific order DWR expects?
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<bwolfe> yes
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<bwolfe> see the schema
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<r0bby> the order you define your signatures has to match the order they're declared?
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<r0bby> who wants to adopt a r0bby?
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<bwolfe> r0bby: no, I don't think that order has to match
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<Keelhaul> bwolfe: so what do you think, is it something worth fixing or not
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: not sure
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<bwolfe> Keelhaul: you can create a ticket and we can get some votes on it
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<bwolfe> I could go either way
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<Keelhaul> ok
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<r0bby> this is weird
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<r0bby> by the way the <signature> section is unnecessary unless it has a generic param
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<bwolfe> unless it takes in one of your custom objects I think
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<r0bby> meh
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<r0bby> meh
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<bwolfe> huntp: do you have only one java thread maybe ?
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<bwolfe> huntp: is there a way you can tell coldfusion to spawn java threads (instead of coldfusion threads?)
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<r0bby> what the fuck
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<r0bby> I need to kill some aliens
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