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| 02:32:39 | <r0bby> /jerk/jj |
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| 08:43:10 | <nribeka> yaayyyy got the book :D |
| 08:54:24 | <[OmegentooX]> Nice |
| 08:54:28 | <[OmegentooX]> I'm expecting mine today too |
| 08:57:08 | <nribeka> you know the book already right [OmegentooX]? |
| 08:58:44 | <[OmegentooX]> Yeah |
| 08:58:55 | <[OmegentooX]> Really excited about it |
| 09:06:10 | <nribeka> i hope it will help me to improve my code |
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| 09:11:41 | <[OmegentooX]> Ideally it should make it more beautiful =) |
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| 09:19:07 | <nribeka> hehe ... :D |
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| 11:12:51 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4251]: Initial import. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4251> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4250]: Initial import. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4250> |
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| 12:56:46 | <r0bby> wow im realzing dojo doesn't even touch my module |
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| 13:05:09 | <pearlbear> hey, am I correct in realizing there are no docs for upgrading MySQL schema after a version upgrade? Or am I missing it somewhere? |
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| 13:28:40 | <nribeka> james_regen: committed the changes |
| 13:31:13 | <james_regen> great, thanks. |
| 13:44:58 | <r0bby> pearlbear |
| 13:45:01 | <r0bby> it's common sense |
| 13:45:21 | <r0bby> mysql -u whatever openmrs < /path/to/schema.sql |
| 13:45:44 | <r0bby> really i dont think we should have to do this |
| 13:45:50 | <r0bby> hibernate should update for us.. |
| 13:45:59 | <r0bby> I *REALLY* dislike this aspect of openmrs |
| 13:48:26 | <r0bby> jmiranda: your two cents on my general project plan posted to my blog |
| 13:49:27 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4257]: patientmatching: Added standard deviation, confidence interval and logic ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4257> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #758 (task closed): There's no good way to see observations longitudinally for data cleanup purposes <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/758#comment:1> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4256]: Implementing #758 - There's no good way to see observations longitudinally ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4256> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #758 (task created): There's no good way to see observations longitudinally for data cleanup purposes <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/758> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #614 (task closed): Find Concept Drug search is broken <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/614#comment:9> |
| 13:49:30 | <jmiranda> r0bby: first of all, i completely agree with your dislike of the data model upgrade process |
| 13:49:44 | <jmiranda> i have been researching different ways to make this better |
| 13:50:38 | <jmiranda> and i have to say that what ben devised is better than most of the solutions i've seen |
| 13:50:44 | <pearlbear> r0bby: common sense has to be documented, too |
| 13:51:12 | <jmiranda> now, as far as your your project ... haven't had a chance to review yet, sorry :( |
| 13:51:20 | <pearlbear> first off, it's not completely obvious where the /path/to/schema.sql is |
| 13:51:34 | <pearlbear> and people may, or may not be familiar with mysql. |
| 13:52:41 | <jmiranda> pearlbear: i thought he was being sarcastic with the "it's common sense" comment ... right r0bby? :) |
| 13:53:00 | <jmiranda> it's definitely not common sense |
| 13:53:32 | <r0bby> jmiranda |
| 13:53:39 | <jmiranda> yup |
| 13:53:39 | <r0bby> Hibernate should handle schema generation :) |
| 13:53:54 | <jmiranda> it should handle schema generation ... yes |
| 13:53:56 | <pearlbear> jmiranda: ah, ok, I didn't pick that up... |
| 13:54:02 | <r0bby> that is the whole point |
| 13:54:14 | <r0bby> otherwise we should handle db stuff with straigjht jdbc |
| 13:54:22 | <jmiranda> but what about going from one version of the data model to the latest |
| 13:54:30 | <jmiranda> that is a very difficult problem to solve |
| 13:54:50 | <jmiranda> especially when dealing with the migration of data from one version to the next |
| 13:55:26 | <jmiranda> i've been looking into this for another project and there aren't very many good solutions out there |
| 13:55:32 | <r0bby> this is where we have an issue -- we shouldn't be generating the schema manually |
| 13:55:42 | <r0bby> it should COMPLETELY OO |
| 13:55:56 | <r0bby> by doing it this way, we're tying people to mysql |
| 13:56:10 | <jmiranda> yes, there's two options there: Hibernate xdoclet and annotations |
| 13:56:22 | <r0bby> JPA++ |
| 13:56:35 | <r0bby> Hibernate just happens to be an implementation ;) |
| 13:56:48 | <r0bby> and JPA is annotation driven! |
| 13:57:11 | <jmiranda> right |
| 13:58:19 | <jmiranda> but say we're using annotation driven DML |
| 13:58:40 | <jmiranda> and you make a simple change (column name change) |
| 13:59:03 | <jmiranda> actually, that's a bad one because the name change could be handled without affecting the data |
| 14:00:37 | <mshanks> evening all |
| 14:00:55 | <nribeka> morning mshanks ... |
| 14:01:03 | <jmiranda> but there are situations where you may need to manipulate the data in a certain way in order to make a particular change |
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| 14:01:33 | <r0bby> jmiranda: do numbers need to translated? |
| 14:01:36 | <jmiranda> the migration from one version of the data model to the other cannot be handled by an annotations (as far as i know) |
| 14:01:44 | <jmiranda> r0bby: not sure what you mean? |
| 14:01:46 | <r0bby> or can i learn those out of my i18n stuff |
| 14:01:54 | <r0bby> er leave |
| 14:02:06 | <r0bby> I have pretty much everything being translated |
| 14:02:07 | <r0bby> :x |
| 14:02:26 | <jmiranda> did you just tell me to leave :) |
| 14:02:30 | <jmiranda> just kidding |
| 14:03:37 | <jmiranda> could you give me an example? |
| 14:04:24 | <r0bby> 1.0 |
| 14:04:27 | <jmiranda> do you mean when converting from LBs to KGs when talking about weights for en_US and en_UK |
| 14:04:27 | <r0bby> the form version |
| 14:04:32 | <r0bby> each form will have a version |
| 14:05:08 | <r0bby> ex) myform/versions/1.0/ |
| 14:05:19 | <r0bby> is how i think i'll store it on the disk |
| 14:06:53 | <r0bby> i suppose not |
| 14:07:16 | <r0bby> nevermind jmiranda |
| 14:08:00 | <jmiranda> yeah, i don't quite get what you mean, but i assume that 1.0 is the same in spanish, french, english, etc |
| 14:08:26 | <r0bby> but when we hit asian languages we hit a problem? |
| 14:08:48 | <r0bby> it's not worth it |
| 14:21:43 | <r0bby> well that was fun |
| 14:24:01 | <r0bby> svn propedit svn:log --revprop -r4258 |
| 14:24:07 | <r0bby> annoying :| |
| 14:24:12 | <r0bby> but i did it |
| 14:24:13 | <r0bby> :) |
| 14:24:16 | <r0bby> <3 google |
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| 14:40:50 | <r0bby> burke++ |
| 14:49:37 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4258]: groovyforms: I don't want to hit a case where we have an invalid class ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4258> |
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| 16:09:21 | <pearlbear> anyway, so I'll be writing that page of documentation, now that I've figured it out. :-) |
| 16:10:34 | <[OmegentooX]> woot |
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| 16:19:53 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4264]: nbsmodule:updated jars <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4264> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4263]: nbsmodule:wait for tif file to be generated (.xml to .22 to .19) <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4263> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4262]: nbsmodule:updated jars <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4262> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4261]: nbsmodule:updated jars <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4261> |
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| 16:53:16 | <r0bby> nribeka: o/ |
| 16:53:43 | <nribeka> hi r0bby :D |
| 16:54:44 | <nribeka> finish with the project plan? |
| 16:54:48 | * [OmegentooX] got his book earlier =D |
| 16:55:29 | <nribeka> [OmegentooX]: haha .. finally :D how about the other? |
| 16:55:56 | <[OmegentooX]> The other? |
| 16:56:25 | <nribeka> r0bby, mshanks did you got the book? |
| 16:57:59 | <r0bby> I just made a new patient |
| 16:58:02 | <r0bby> A. L. Taller |
| 16:58:03 | <r0bby> :) |
| 16:58:12 | * r0bby giggles |
| 16:58:21 | <r0bby> A Little Taller |
| 16:59:07 | <r0bby> :) |
| 17:01:31 | <nribeka> this class is so boring ... |
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| 17:09:33 | <nribeka> how do you open the form? |
| 17:11:44 | <nribeka> r0bby: what do you mean by "reflection on the Form Model"? |
| 17:13:36 | <nribeka> nvm r0bby, got it after reading your blog :D |
| 17:14:06 | <r0bby> nribeka: reflection api |
| 17:14:24 | <r0bby> gg |
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| 17:38:46 | <nribeka> hi bwolfe |
| 17:38:49 | <nribeka> how was the trip? |
| 17:41:13 | <bwolfe> hey nribeka |
| 17:41:17 | <bwolfe> very rainy :-/ |
| 17:42:34 | <nribeka> hehe ... |
| 17:42:36 | <bwolfe> they chose to have the grad ceremony outside ... but then it rained anyway |
| 17:42:40 | <bwolfe> cold and rainy |
| 17:42:55 | <nribeka> wow ... they have the ceremony in the mid of rain? |
| 17:43:51 | <bwolfe> yeah...everyone had umbrellas and yet everyone still got wet |
| 17:46:38 | <nribeka> my friend is really interested in OpenMRS :P |
| 17:47:07 | <nribeka> wow ... why don't they had the ceremony inside :P |
| 17:50:14 | <bwolfe> they had it set up for an indoor ceremony as well. at 7am they chose to have it outside (10am ceremony). it started raining about 9:55am :-/ |
| 17:51:05 | <nribeka> that's so unlucky ... |
| 17:51:33 | <nribeka> just a couple of mins from the ceremony :P |
| 18:03:34 | <r0bby> bwolfe |
| 18:03:39 | <r0bby> did you get the email |
| 18:03:45 | <bwolfe> yep, looking at it now, actually |
| 18:03:48 | <r0bby> I sent you the notes me and burke took |
| 18:04:10 | <r0bby> class Foo is the actual model i need to parse foir the form |
| 18:04:33 | <r0bby> it made sense if you were in the call |
| 18:04:43 | <r0bby> bwolfe |
| 18:04:51 | <r0bby> I made twp fake patients |
| 18:05:00 | <r0bby> A. L. Shorter and A. L. Taller |
| 18:05:04 | <r0bby> they're cousins :P |
| 18:05:08 | * r0bby giggles |
| 18:05:20 | <r0bby> if you're smart you'll see thje stupid joke in the name :) |
| 18:05:24 | <bwolfe> r0bby is easily amused |
| 18:05:29 | <r0bby> yeh |
| 18:05:51 | <r0bby> At some point (probably WAYYYY later down the line i'll need help w/ the patient selecter |
| 18:06:16 | <r0bby> bwolfe: also the blog post |
| 18:06:35 | <r0bby> burke also pointed me to http://zkoss.org |
| 18:06:43 | <r0bby> which will happen later down the line |
| 18:06:53 | <r0bby> The demos are amazing! |
| 18:07:03 | <r0bby> I wanted to do everything via AJAX |
| 18:07:14 | <r0bby> hence the note on top :P |
| 18:07:29 | <bwolfe> I yes, I think RG is using zk for their new project |
| 18:07:39 | <bwolfe> PIH will be redoing most of the ajax in openmrs in jquery |
| 18:09:04 | <mshanks> book got delivered to parents house this morning |
| 18:09:20 | <[OmegentooX]> Where is that in relation to you, mshanks ? |
| 18:09:31 | <mshanks> 45 minutes south |
| 18:09:34 | <[OmegentooX]> bwolfe, cool. jQuery is what I'm going to be using this summer |
| 18:09:43 | <[OmegentooX]> mshanks, will you be there soon? |
| 18:09:51 | <mshanks> end of june |
| 18:09:56 | <[OmegentooX]> Dude |
| 18:09:57 | <r0bby> yeh burke told me about that |
| 18:10:01 | <[OmegentooX]> Visit them =P |
| 18:10:08 | <mshanks> too much to do :P |
| 18:10:08 | <[OmegentooX]> 45 minutes is worth it for this book |
| 18:10:17 | <mshanks> it'll still be there in 5 weeks |
| 18:10:18 | <r0bby> I would *LOVE* to get hired to work on my module full time |
| 18:10:26 | <r0bby> I mean beyond the summer |
| 18:10:41 | <r0bby> :x |
| 18:11:01 | <r0bby> bwolfe : what about dwr? |
| 18:11:07 | <bwolfe> dwr is sticking around |
| 18:11:36 | <r0bby> good I like that |
| 18:11:45 | <r0bby> it's how I plan on doing the ajax stuff for the front-end |
| 18:12:10 | <r0bby> and possibly how i pass stuff around, but it may be bad |
| 18:12:25 | <r0bby> burke doesn't want me going "ajax crazy" i think is what he said |
| 18:13:07 | <r0bby> also peek at my blog post, i'd like your opinion on that -- but more or less the notes are final say :) |
| 18:13:24 | <r0bby> what I said in my post still stands -- it's just now we have a clearer objective |
| 18:13:35 | <r0bby> Everything in the post still has to be done |
| 18:14:32 | <r0bby> nribeka: my book comes tomorrow |
| 18:15:34 | <r0bby> bwolfe: what's not there is: 1) we need to figure out the directory structure |
| 18:15:35 | <mshanks> what exactly is the book? |
| 18:15:47 | <r0bby> I *THINK* Beautiful Code by O'Reily |
| 18:15:55 | <r0bby> don't quote me, i'm going by a blog post |
| 18:18:07 | <nribeka> haha ... yeah that's the book. |
| 18:18:29 | <[OmegentooX]> Quit spilling beans! |
| 18:18:36 | <[OmegentooX]> Althought nearly everyone knows by now |
| 18:18:41 | <r0bby> yeh LOL |
| 18:18:47 | <r0bby> [OmegentooX]: big fucking deal |
| 18:18:48 | <nribeka> LOL ... |
| 18:18:50 | <r0bby> we all know |
| 18:18:55 | <[OmegentooX]> o.O |
| 18:19:33 | <r0bby> [OmegentooX]: the white horse is indeed black, and its not george washington's but ...somebody elses |
| 18:19:46 | <r0bby> and the sky is purple with hues of pink |
| 18:20:10 | <r0bby> and and... |
| 18:20:15 | <r0bby> I should probably go blog |
| 18:21:53 | * nribeka is trying to hold on for a few more minutes ... |
| 18:27:31 | <mshanks> this exam in the morning is going to be sooooo bad |
| 18:27:33 | <mshanks> operating systems :S |
| 18:27:52 | <nribeka> it's done ... |
| 18:27:57 | <nribeka> see you guys tonight :D |
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| 18:36:15 | <[OmegentooX]> mshanks, oooo OS |
| 18:36:24 | <[OmegentooX]> I have discrete math (intro to computation) at 8am |
| 18:36:33 | <[OmegentooX]> What's your OS exam like? |
| 18:37:25 | <mshanks> hard :S |
| 18:37:28 | <[OmegentooX]> lol |
| 18:37:33 | <[OmegentooX]> What will be on it? |
| 18:38:13 | <mshanks> memorary management, processes and file systems |
| 18:38:40 | <[OmegentooX]> Sounds like my OS class |
| 18:38:59 | <[OmegentooX]> The class material and exams were great. The coding assignments were haaaaaaaard |
| 18:39:15 | <mshanks> this exam in the morning is going to be sooooo badno coursework for this.... just stupid 2 hour exam :( |
| 18:39:27 | <[OmegentooX]> Ack |
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| 19:15:56 | <r0bby> mshanks: have fun |
| 19:16:04 | <r0bby> I haven't had to take Operating Systems :x |
| 19:16:25 | <mshanks> lucky git |
| 19:16:27 | <mshanks> i hate it :S |
| 19:16:45 | <mshanks> the mem management i can deal with to an extent... but the file systems and process stuff is just dull |
| 19:17:14 | <mshanks> hmm |
| 19:17:22 | <mshanks> I'm gonna need more coffee and a bigger ash tray to get through tonight ¬.¬ |
| 19:20:34 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Please send me developer photos <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=375#p1227> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4265]: complex_obs branch: Added ability to override handlers via Spring. Added ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4265> |
| 19:24:58 | <mshanks> got bored a couple days ago http://www.evilstudios.net/ lol |
| 20:13:55 | <bwolfe> mshanks: does one of them ever win? :-p |
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| 20:50:54 | <docpaul> hello! :) |
| 20:51:01 | <docpaul> hmm |
| 20:51:19 | <docpaul> can you all see my text? |
| 20:51:57 | <bwolfe> yes docpaul |
| 20:52:21 | <bwolfe> is there a reason we wouldn't be able to ? |
| 20:56:55 | <bwolfe> hmm, if you're talking now docpaul, your text is invisible. :-p |
| 20:57:05 | <docpaul> odd |
| 20:57:53 | <docpaul> jjjjjjj |
| 20:58:15 | <bwolfe> yeah, you seem to be back now...except with only one letter working ;-) |
| 20:58:17 | <docpaul> schnogenlocker |
| 20:58:36 | <pearlbear> hi docpaul |
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| 20:59:55 | <bwolfe> heh |
| 20:59:56 | <docpaul> hmm |
| 21:00:00 | <bwolfe> back? |
| 21:00:02 | <docpaul> now it's working |
| 21:00:04 | <docpaul> wierd! |
| 21:00:16 | <docpaul> i couldnt see anything in this channel |
| 21:00:21 | <docpaul> sorry to all |
| 21:00:23 | <docpaul> hello! |
| 21:00:24 | <pearlbear> rehi docpaul |
| 21:00:35 | <bwolfe> you missed pearlbear's greeting to you...and me mocking you. but thats it :-) |
| 21:00:39 | <docpaul> heya michelle. :) |
| 21:00:44 | <docpaul> you're the reason i came online |
| 21:00:59 | <docpaul> do you have a few mins to talk through your email? |
| 21:01:32 | <pearlbear> yup |
| 21:01:37 | <docpaul> so, on point #1 |
| 21:01:52 | <docpaul> yes, i think it's good and reasonable to stay with mediawiki right now... with a small caveat |
| 21:02:03 | <docpaul> i think the main task is to organize the content we have to start with |
| 21:02:26 | <docpaul> and a mediawiki swap at this point might provide too many distractions |
| 21:02:28 | <docpaul> that being said... |
| 21:02:29 | <docpaul> :) |
| 21:02:39 | <docpaul> we are starting to fall in love with confluence |
| 21:02:42 | <docpaul> :) |
| 21:02:48 | <pearlbear> I rather like confluence, actually |
| 21:03:05 | <docpaul> it provides for some notion of hierarchies |
| 21:03:09 | <pearlbear> did you get a chance to look at the new structure I proposed? |
| 21:03:12 | <docpaul> which is actually quite powerful |
| 21:03:16 | <docpaul> yes |
| 21:03:31 | <docpaul> let me work through your email, and we can talk about that |
| 21:03:48 | <pearlbear> OKies |
| 21:03:50 | <r0bby> docpaul! |
| 21:03:56 | <docpaul> so, that's the first phase of your project... stick with mediawiki, with an eye towards confluence |
| 21:04:10 | <docpaul> heya robbo... i heard you having a hardy conversation with burke today |
| 21:04:17 | <pearlbear> ah, the eye toward confluence - OK, a new twist |
| 21:04:32 | <r0bby> docpaul: indeed |
| 21:04:57 | <docpaul> i like the categories as a starting point |
| 21:05:11 | <docpaul> and i also like your notions of the gap analysis |
| 21:05:14 | <r0bby> docpaul: move towards jira too :) |
| 21:05:30 | <docpaul> i'm not fully convinced on jira yet... that's a bigger deal |
| 21:05:47 | <docpaul> style guide is super key |
| 21:05:51 | <pearlbear> agreed |
| 21:06:04 | <docpaul> so, that being said... |
| 21:06:05 | <r0bby> I did post my blog post which is a general project plan |
| 21:06:28 | <r0bby> docpaul you listened in on my conversation?!?!?! |
| 21:06:29 | <docpaul> how would you feel about taking the existing wiki and starting (with Matt's help) to hang all the existing work onto that architecture |
| 21:06:32 | <r0bby> I feel so violated |
| 21:06:51 | <docpaul> no, i heard burke talking to you, and i went and was productive on something else. :) |
| 21:06:52 | <r0bby> j/k :) |
| 21:07:28 | <r0bby> I would DEFINATELY like to work on the groovyforms module past soc |
| 21:07:31 | <docpaul> but of course, remember that we could fairly easily use a mediawiki->confluence importer |
| 21:07:49 | <docpaul> so, just be thoughtful of the hierarchy potential |
| 21:08:09 | <docpaul> r0bby: cool. Burke is a good mentor, eh? |
| 21:08:13 | <pearlbear> docpaul: back up a sec: the existing work on which architecture? Confluence? Or proposed new structure? |
| 21:08:13 | <r0bby> yeh |
| 21:08:30 | <docpaul> so, there's a heck of a lot of existing wiki pages |
| 21:08:31 | <r0bby> I have a bad need to use ajax to pass form data |
| 21:08:39 | <r0bby> it's calling me |
| 21:08:45 | <pearlbear> docpaul: yes, indeed thereare |
| 21:08:54 | <docpaul> use your proposed structure, and see if the existing pages hang nicely off of it |
| 21:08:57 | <docpaul> make sense? |
| 21:09:25 | <pearlbear> actually, the proposed structure already includes lots of the existing pages - so sure, makes lots of sense |
| 21:09:39 | <docpaul> how many total pages are there now? |
| 21:09:41 | <docpaul> do you know? |
| 21:09:46 | <docpaul> on openmrs.org that is |
| 21:10:03 | <pearlbear> of just developer docs ... lemme check |
| 21:10:14 | <docpaul> no, of the entire site... if you have that, that is |
| 21:11:07 | <r0bby> I make sure encoding doesn't get screwy |
| 21:11:32 | <r0bby> I may have to go and hurt somebody if it does, and I'd hate to have to slaughter some innocents |
| 21:12:01 | <pearlbear> way more than 300 |
| 21:12:16 | <r0bby> sweet leaping jesus |
| 21:12:28 | <pearlbear> the index has 3 columns with about 150 page names in each column |
| 21:12:49 | <r0bby> pearlbear: are you getting paid for this or volunteer? |
| 21:13:02 | <docpaul> a hybrid of both. :) |
| 21:13:15 | <pearlbear> lots of them, though are things like conference call notes |
| 21:13:27 | <pearlbear> :-) |
| 21:13:28 | <docpaul> so there's around 450? |
| 21:13:35 | <pearlbear> that's a good ballpark |
| 21:13:43 | <docpaul> hrmph |
| 21:13:45 | <pearlbear> 450-500 |
| 21:14:06 | <docpaul> how did you decide if a page related to developers? |
| 21:14:44 | <pearlbear> Initially, I used the current navigation structure, and the pages that were off of them, and what linked to them. |
| 21:14:47 | <docpaul> whoa... google health has launched |
| 21:15:02 | <pearlbear> but 've added some as time has gone on that I've just happened to come across. :-) |
| 21:15:08 | <docpaul> ok, so we |
| 21:15:13 | <docpaul> ve got some work there. :) |
| 21:15:26 | <pearlbear> indeed! |
| 21:15:39 | <docpaul> i wonder if there's a tool that allows you to rapdily label each page |
| 21:15:47 | <docpaul> so someone like me could go through them all |
| 21:15:53 | <docpaul> and give them a high level label |
| 21:16:14 | <pearlbear> hmmm, I'll see if I can find anything. |
| 21:16:28 | <docpaul> i bet there are an asston of orphaned pages not hooked up to that hierarchy |
| 21:16:32 | <pearlbear> and, of course, there are a lot of pages that are applicable to both developers and implementors |
| 21:16:32 | <r0bby> docpaul: do mentors get +v here? |
| 21:16:49 | <pearlbear> docpaul: indeed, there are, I can see them now in the index. Sigh |
| 21:16:50 | <docpaul> actually, all gsoc, mentors, etc should get them |
| 21:17:05 | <docpaul> that relate to developers |
| 21:17:44 | <r0bby> you own the chan with burke being alternate |
| 21:17:48 | <docpaul> yep, i do |
| 21:18:09 | <docpaul> come back into the channel robbo |
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| 21:18:26 | <r0bby> heh |
| 21:18:33 | <r0bby> mshanks should get it too :P |
| 21:18:35 | <r0bby> aka napi :P |
| 21:18:48 | <r0bby> aka Matt Shanks |
| 21:18:56 | <r0bby> he's hiding shanks under his bed |
| 21:18:59 | <docpaul> of course, my intern |
| 21:19:03 | * r0bby shakes mshanks down |
| 21:19:16 | <docpaul> done |
| 21:19:22 | <pearlbear> OK, so here's the plan so far: 1) use the new structure on mediawiki to set up the framework, thinking about conflunence in the process. 2) Find orphaned pages to hang onto the structure as well. |
| 21:19:47 | <docpaul> right... I'm willing to help with #2, if you can find an efficient way to do it |
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| 21:19:59 | <docpaul> i'll get burke to help too |
| 21:20:24 | <pearlbear> If I have to, I'll make a spreadsheet |
| 21:20:39 | <pearlbear> but hopefully, I'll find something cool and mediawiki-ish |
| 21:21:10 | <docpaul> ok. :) |
| 21:21:31 | <docpaul> so, i guess the point is... let's make sure the reality of what people are creating matches your ideas |
| 21:21:52 | <pearlbear> that makes sense |
| 21:21:55 | <docpaul> i think it will, but we need to make sure... at some level, orphaned pages might be because we don't have the right structure |
| 21:22:35 | <pearlbear> gotcha |
| 21:22:46 | <docpaul> orphaned pages, from my perspective are problematic... as you need to know how to correctly search to find tem |
| 21:22:51 | <docpaul> we're not large enough to rely on that |
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| 21:23:00 | <docpaul> therefore, you need robust structure |
| 21:23:21 | <pearlbear> btw, Matt gets done next week, which is perfect |
| 21:23:44 | <docpaul> awesome |
| 21:24:14 | <r0bby> what about his soc project :P |
| 21:24:21 | <docpaul> we'll get there... we don't expect you to do it all... just help lead the change |
| 21:24:22 | <pearlbear> so ... what about the reversal in timeline? With the developer doc sprint later instead of earlier? |
| 21:24:24 | <docpaul> er, charge |
| 21:24:36 | <pearlbear> gotcha |
| 21:24:53 | <r0bby> pearlbear: i could sorta help |
| 21:25:12 | <r0bby> not now of course I have a shitload to do that i'm procrastinating :) |
| 21:25:26 | <docpaul> i think that makes sense, given your expertise michelle |
| 21:25:36 | <pearlbear> r0bby: were you *really* sarcastic about the mysql schema update being common sense? If so, then sure. :-) |
| 21:25:52 | <r0bby> pearlbear: kinda sorta |
| 21:26:03 | * r0bby ducks |
| 21:26:36 | <r0bby> my brother took all the left over london broil :| |
| 21:26:41 | <pearlbear> r0bby: I think you need to write "even things I think are common sense need documentation" 50 times in chalk on a chalkboard somewhere. :-P |
| 21:27:26 | <r0bby> pearlbear: I have a whiteboard |
| 21:27:33 | <r0bby> but i aint gonna do that |
| 21:27:34 | <pearlbear> docpaul: cool. I feel like I really want to grok the innards - and that will take me a bit. |
| 21:27:46 | <pearlbear> r0bby: get out that marker, now! :-) |
| 21:27:51 | <docpaul> yep, i respect that. :) |
| 21:27:53 | <r0bby> make me. |
| 21:28:08 | * r0bby can be difficult when he wants to be |
| 21:28:30 | <r0bby> this is the part of soc i hate -- planning |
| 21:29:02 | <r0bby> I sorta know how i want to do this |
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| 21:44:33 | <pearlbear> ugh. I was a little off on my estimate. 646 pages. |
| 21:44:36 | <pearlbear> Sigh. |
| 21:47:43 | <[OmegentooX]> Oh, hai there |
| 21:47:50 | <[OmegentooX]> d'oh, I missed the good conversation |
| 21:50:42 | <pearlbear> it's OK. We didn't take your name in vain too much. :-) |
| 21:50:52 | <pearlbear> but we do have our marching orders... |
| 21:50:56 | <pearlbear> ;-) |
| 21:51:08 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Kevin Peters: Trying Out Last Year's GSOC OpenMRS ODA <http://openmrs-birt-oda.blogspot.com/2008/05/trying-out-last-years-gsoc-openmrs-oda.html> |
| 21:52:42 | <r0bby> I must blog |
| 21:52:47 | * r0bby needs to blog |
| 21:52:57 | * r0bby needs to shut the .. up |
| 21:53:08 | * r0bby needs to lay off the coffee |
| 21:53:21 | * [OmegentooX] will scroll up and read the conversation once the sleepniess wears off |
| 21:54:57 | <pearlbear> ok, I gotta go. Let's reconnect next week when your dust settles ... |
| 21:55:15 | * r0bby is around |
| 21:55:20 | <r0bby> always :P |
| 21:55:34 | <r0bby> I could use a distraction sometimes |
| 21:57:34 | <[OmegentooX]> pearlbear, mosdef |
| 21:57:47 | <[OmegentooX]> r0bby, read your book from Google |
| 21:57:50 | <[OmegentooX]> Oh, wait, you can't yet ;) |
| 21:58:48 | <r0bby> excuse my french here |
| 21:58:52 | <r0bby> FUCK YOU |
| 21:59:11 | * [OmegentooX] administers valium |
| 22:04:45 | <pearlbear> r0bby: remember, this is logged, for all to see... |
| 22:05:03 | <r0bby> pearlbear: I've said worse |
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| 22:51:21 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4267]: birtmodule: Fixed module version number and fixed package for test cases. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4267> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4266]: Renamed test package to org.openmrs.module.birt <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4266> |
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| 23:38:16 | <r0bby> james_regen: you alive? |
| 23:57:07 | <r0bby> unp[ing |
| 23:59:53 | <r0bby> I gotta stop trying to update the jars :| |
| 23:59:59 | <r0bby> it always fails :| |