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<bwolfe> atomicturtle: so is it more like a 5 min end-to-end move, or a 1 hour end-to-end ?
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<bwolfe> atomicturtle: can we just schedule a day this week to do it ?
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<bwolfe> I don't really need to be involved...its more just getting burke to change the registrar IP and you to do the final point/click moving of the data
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<r0bby> I was looking at my grails book
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<r0bby> and realized something
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<r0bby> grails does what my project will do!
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<r0bby> it generates views/controllers based on a model!
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<r0bby> appears grails uses templates
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<r0bby> perhaps that won't be a bad idea
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<r0bby> perhaps i should stop cc'ing burke lol
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<r0bby> bwolfe
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<r0bby> ping
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<r0bby> ther'es a better book
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<r0bby> Java Persistence with Hibernate
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<bwolfe> thats the newest one out I think
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<bwolfe> I think brian has that book
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<bwolfe> and what conversation were you continueing here?
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<bwolfe> i.e. that book better than what other book?
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<r0bby> i switched the wiki
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<r0bby> :x
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<r0bby> It's actually in place
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<r0bby> the daos just don't work
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<r0bby> one works but craps out if you add too many at once
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<r0bby> hi
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<bmckown> hi
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<nribeka> bmckown: what nribeka's blog said? hehe :D
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<bmckown> Yes, Ah. Thanks for reminding me. I need to start doing that again.
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<bmckown> hehe
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<nribeka> hahaha ...
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<nribeka> just kidding bmckown
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<bmckown> :-)
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<nribeka> bmckown, do the opposite thing haha :D
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<nribeka> btw, bwolfe is coming to town
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<bmckown> coming to town? what town?
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<bmckown> Pittsburgh?
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<bmckown> .... 2 + 2.... Oh, I get it.
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<bmckown> :-)
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<bmckown> cool.
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<nribeka> yupz, he is coming this weekend :D
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<nribeka> yupz, but i don't know where we'll meet
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<bmckown> that's good. that will be great.
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<bmckown> Is there a Pirates game going on?
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<nribeka> is that a complement or what?
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<nribeka> haha :D
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<nribeka> everybody is hailing Penguins right now
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<bmckown> Sorry, I haven't kept up too much on the Pirates, so I don't know. We don't get their games on tv much here.
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<bmckown> Ah, I haven't watched Hockey.
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<bmckown> 2nd place in the East. That's good.
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<bmckown> I watch baseball some, but not really hockey.
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<nribeka> pirates is losing all the time :(
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<nribeka> i mean most of it
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<bmckown> Yes.
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<nribeka> 19-20 now ...
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<nribeka> that sucks :(
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<bmckown> I'm originally from Akron. So Cleveland Indians. Hey let me go.
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<nribeka> ah, Cleveland ...
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<nribeka> we're in the same division then :P
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<nribeka> i mean for nfl hahaha :P
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<nribeka> r0bby: Summer of talking about payments, books, and illegal tax advice
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<nribeka> haha ... rotfl ...
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<r0bby> yeh
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<bwolfe> atomicturtle: when night are you free this week to do the server swap ?
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<bwolfe> err when=what
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<atomicturtle> sunday maybe
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<bwolfe> ok, can we jsut schedule a time? :-)
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<bwolfe> atomicturtle: what time do you think will be best?
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<bwolfe> I'll see if burke can be available.
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<bwolfe> atomicturtle: does plesk give us a way to create a "we'
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<bwolfe> err
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<bwolfe> "we're down for now. come back later" message to all sites ?
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<atomicturtle> we'll do it in parallel
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<atomicturtle> nothing needs to go down at any point
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<bwolfe> no need to set the old vm to read-only in case of ip caching ?
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<bwolfe> is there copy delay caused by copying the vm image ?
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<bwolfe> (@ atomicturtle )
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<atomicturtle> yeah, we're not touching the vm we're just copying content
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<atomicturtle> remember the other box isnt a virtual server
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<atomicturtle> its a real box
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<burke> so no VM on the new box?
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<bwolfe> I'm all confused now
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<bwolfe> I thought we were setting up virtuozzo on the new server so we could have multiple vms on the box
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<burke> I thought it was going to be VM (for the sake of having everything neatly wrapped & transportable), just the only one on the box (not sharing resources)
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<bwolfe> atomicturtle: whats your vision ? no vzo, no vms, just one os installed ?
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<atomicturtle> Technically the kernel supports every kind of virtualization
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<atomicturtle> we can always add vm's later
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<atomicturtle> plesk itself allows you to make all the data transportable as well
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<atomicturtle> no vm'ing required
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<burke> is there a way via plesk to temporarily redirect people to a "system upgrade in progress..." message?
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<bwolfe> ok, so a plesk-to-plesk transfer then? how long does that take atomicturtle ?
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<atomicturtle> I already did it :P
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<atomicturtle> what you do is set up both systems, in parallel
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<atomicturtle> copy the data over
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<atomicturtle> change the DNS records, and do a last rsync
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<atomicturtle> its all done from inside of plesk too, in the migration manager
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<burke> wow.
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<burke> what if someone is committing code to svn during the migration?
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<atomicturtle> the ninja way to do it on top of that is to use standard firewall rules to forward the connections from old to new during the DNS lag time
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<bwolfe> so the vm1 plesk can say "you can't use this anymore" and redirect to the new one if someone's cache is all off ?
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<atomicturtle> or you preempt the lag by setting the records not to cache
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<atomicturtle> it could, but you dont need to
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<burke> so, have you already started the migration?
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<bwolfe> atomicturtle: I was asking how long does the "copy the data over" step take
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<r0bby> hey burke =)
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<burke> hey r0bby
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<r0bby> did you happent o catch my email?
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<r0bby> opinion?
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<atomicturtle> it didnt take long, probably 2 or 3 hours
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<atomicturtle> you can try it if youd like
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<atomicturtle> just log into rax
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<atomicturtle> blow away all the existing clients, go to server, migration manager
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<atomicturtle> and put in the data for the current box
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<atomicturtle> it lets you select either all the clients/domains or just specific ones
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<burke> r0bby: agree that we can benefit from pieces of grails. templates sounds good. webservice sounds good too...for version 14.0. :p
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<r0bby> burke: i never said *I* was gonna do it
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<burke> :)
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<r0bby> I said it'd be a nice idea
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<bwolfe> atomicturtle: so we 1) make wiki/forum/svn/trac readonly on vm1. 2) move data from vm1 to vm3 with the migration maanger 3) wait three hours 4) move the IP 5) make wiki/forum/svn/trac writable on the new server
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<bwolfe> is that right ?
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<bwolfe> atomicturtle: does this migration manager copy the ssh users and whatnot we set up on vm1 ?
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<r0bby> burke: at one point -- nearer the 26th -- i want a more detailed plan :-X I still have no clue how to start
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<burke> r0bby: agreed. I've got some e-mail to send out tonight/tomorrow for all mentors/interns
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<bwolfe> atomicturtle: and what about the nonplesk content like the /var/www/cruisecontrol stuff?
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<r0bby> this is grail's template
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<r0bby> http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=21270
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1ruF> (at eugeneciurana.com)
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<bwolfe> burke: let me know what atomicturtle's response is. I've gotta run
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<burke> r0bby: what's that clip from?
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<burke> atomicturtle: if plesk will migrate the nonplesk stuff (ssh accounts, cruisecontrol, etc.) then Ben and I could probably make the migration tonight.
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<atomicturtle> it doesnt. Thats there to teach you not to go around plesk :P
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<burke> what about manual tweaks to stuff -- i.e., we had to edit a phpbb3 file manually to fix how it generates RSS feeds. Does Plesk just essentially zip it up and move it over?
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<burke> and can you get me into vm3 via ssh? i'm assuming my public key isn't on vm3. is that something I can do via plesk? or will you need to put my public key on vm3 yourself before I can ssh?
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<atomicturtle> thats almost exactly what it does
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<atomicturtle> anything managed through plesk on a domain, databases, files, zone files, even logs are transferred
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<burke> cule.
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<atomicturtle> it will recreate the users in the db, or the ones used for ftp. Even update the zone file with the new IP's if you were managing DNS with it
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<burke> I found the domain ssh thing to ssh via plesk, but I don't see a way to inject my public key or manage SSH users from plesk so I can get good ol' SSH access to the box (for those dirty non-plesk things)
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<atomicturtle> yeah for the user accounts of admins, Id do it the old fashioned way
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<atomicturtle> personal preference
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<r0bby> grails
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<r0bby> Okay, burke i just looked through grail's Scaffolding code
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<r0bby> they use groovy templates
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<burke> atomicturtle: could you put my public key on vm3 for us? I could then take care of ben.
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<r0bby> http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=21274
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<OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1ruW> (at eugeneciurana.com)
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<r0bby> that's the parsing code for generating the views
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<r0bby> wow i lhis is gonna be easy
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<atomicturtle> burke: all done
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<burke> sweet. thanks. i'm in.
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<burke> um... it's asking for a password when i try to sudo that I don't have. same for passwd.
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<r0bby> I'm just doing straigth reflection i think
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<atomicturtle> same root password as the current box
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<burke> ok. got it. thx
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<burke> ok. gotta run. thanks atomicturtle. cya later, r0bby ... I'll have an e-mail out for mentors/interns very soon and we'll start working on your project plan
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