IRC Chat : 2008-05-08 - OpenMRS

00:15:00 <r0bby> any of you guys in NY,NJ or CT?
00:15:08 <r0bby> or within driving distance of NYC?
01:19:37 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Nyoman Ribeka: Patient Matching, The Second Step <http://nyomanribeka.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/patient-matching-the-second-step/>
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06:23:47 * maveriick is happy to get a laptop
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08:23:19 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #733 (enhancement reopened): retired concepts are found w/out checking "include retired" <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/733#comment:2> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #733 (enhancement closed): retired concepts are found w/out checking "include retired" <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/733#comment:1> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: RE:Installation Trouble when starting OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=370#p1203> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #733 (enhancement created): retired concepts are found w/out checking "include retired" <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/733> || OpenMRS Forum: RE:Installation Trouble when starting OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=370#p1202>
08:23:37 <bwolfe> hey upul
08:23:47 <upul> Hi
08:24:07 <bwolfe> how goes things?
08:25:29 <upul> i was having free week. lots of things planned to do. but as usual nothing much happened
08:26:13 <upul> but i kind of checked the tribe problem
08:26:52 <upul> i imagine how it is going to happen, not the specifics
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08:30:54 <upul> bwolfe: tribe is going to be like the current Location
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08:31:56 <upul> but there Location is core thing in the source, tribe is going to be personatr
08:33:32 <bwolfe> upul: in what ways will it be like location ?
08:34:37 <upul> user will add a Tribe type attribute
08:34:52 <upul> just like Location is
08:35:14 <upul> but Tribe will exist in a module
08:36:24 <bwolfe> yeah, thats about right
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08:52:19 <r0bby> hey bwolfe
08:52:20 <r0bby> =)
08:52:30 <bwolfe> g'morning r0bby
08:52:34 <r0bby> I took on the undertaking of coordinating a meetup in NY
08:52:38 <r0bby> :(
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08:52:58 <r0bby> it's harder than i thought with everybody saying "I can only attend this date, and that date, and etc etc )
08:53:12 <r0bby> Who is Andrew Kanter?
08:53:32 <r0bby> (I emailed dev@ to invite them, it's at the Google NY Office)
09:05:08 <bwolfe> yes, I saw the email r0bby
09:05:32 <bwolfe> kanter is an implementer. he works for columbia univ
09:07:48 <r0bby> I added him to the list of potential attendees
09:07:55 <bwolfe> r0bby: use something like http://doodle.ch/main.html to keep track of the potential best times
09:08:01 <r0bby> it may or may not work for him -- i dont know
09:08:10 <bwolfe> you could add people manually if they only email you
09:08:22 <bwolfe> or just respond to them when they do with the link to your meeting scheduler
09:08:47 <r0bby> I'm going to use my meetups list
09:09:04 <r0bby> I made a google group for this very purpose :)
09:09:47 <r0bby> now just waiting on lh to set it up for me (or put me in touch with somebody)
09:10:33 <r0bby> I plan on bringing mah laptop and coding -- giant coding party basically :-)
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09:23:36 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: RE:Installation Trouble when starting OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=370#p1205> || OpenMRS Forum: Re: RE:Installation Trouble when starting OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=370#p1204> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #734 (defect created): Patient search does not support double-barrel first names <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/734>
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09:36:15 <upul> My new article on developerWorks: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/edu/ws-dw-ws-synapse.html
09:36:16 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1r3z> (at www.ibm.com)
09:38:49 <njero> r0bby: how are things going on your project?
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10:07:21 * njero refrains from making a "System, heal thyself" joke about Darius' last email
10:10:54 <bwolfe> thank you for sparing us all njero :-)
10:11:10 <njero> Well, I didn't spare all of *you*
10:11:11 <njero> :)
10:12:57 <njero> I was working on our cohort report last night and got the primary query running in 0.03 seconds... seems like a good thing :)
10:13:18 <njero> I was stealing ideas from Mike in Haiti via Darius :)
10:14:32 <bwolfe> very nice
10:14:39 <bwolfe> .03 should be fast enough for most people. :-p
10:14:44 <njero> LOL.
10:14:52 <bwolfe> is this in your system, or in a true openmrs install ?
10:14:58 <njero> It used to take a couple hours
10:15:02 <njero> this is in our system
10:15:24 <njero> Darius and I spent a long time talking about drugs... I have finally got the changes implemented..
10:15:48 <njero> I am hoping this is something that can be made available to the rest of openmrs... I think it is generally useful
10:16:46 <bwolfe> njero: looks like hamish did your joke halfway for you
10:21:34 <njero> bwolfe: Yeah, I am apparently much funnier though ;)
10:22:25 <upul> where is testAllowUsersWhoArePatients
10:28:17 <bwolfe> upul: in eclipse, control-h will give you a global search to find it
10:28:27 <bwolfe> I think its in PatientServiceTest
10:28:50 <upul> filesearch didn't find any
10:30:24 <bwolfe> control-shift-t in eclipse will help you find a java class (so type in PatientServiceTest)
10:31:00 <bwolfe> upul: it comes up in filesearch for me
10:31:13 <bwolfe> do you have "case sensitive" turned on, or maybe a misspelling?
10:31:37 <upul> no i just seache for even AllowUsersWhoArePatients
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10:31:42 <upul> anyway got it
10:32:42 <upul> i think it is wrong to make patient and user the same person by manipulating the sql data
10:33:03 <upul> because patient and user are at the ends of the class structure
10:33:17 <upul> hibernate is just modeling that on tables
10:33:24 <bwolfe> both patient and user objects inherit from person
10:33:37 <upul> yes but it can be only one of them
10:33:49 <upul> if you think in object level
10:33:50 <bwolfe> there should be a way to tell hibernate that I want to fetch a patient vs a user
10:35:54 <upul> but hibernate is just storing the class hiearchy
10:36:12 <upul> if you take an object it cannot be both user and patient
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10:41:25 <bwolfe> upul: no, it can't be...but a patient can be a user at another point.
10:41:43 <bwolfe> so that a patient object and a user object share a person_id (which means that patient_id = user_id)
10:42:12 <bwolfe> when I tell hibernate to fetch a User, it shouldn't return the cached Patient object....it should return a new User object
10:42:37 <bwolfe> if I ask for a Person object, it could return a User or Patient...
10:43:28 <upul> i think hibernate assumes there will be only one related row in user or patient per person object
10:43:38 <upul> it was designed like that
10:44:27 <upul> for example how do you create a user patient using java code without manipulating database
10:45:44 <bwolfe> Patient pat = new Patient();
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10:45:52 <bwolfe> thats it
10:46:27 <upul> then he is a patient, not a user
10:47:20 <upul> pat is a patient
10:48:28 <upul> id in person, and a related id in a patient OR user comes bcause hibernate uses that way to save them to tables
10:49:14 <upul> patient and user are two different objects, only thing is they have common person attributes
10:50:07 <upul> otherwise we have to make an association: user with a patient and/or user
10:50:16 <upul> not inheritence
10:50:32 <upul> sorry person with a patient or user
10:52:11 <upul> (oops wrong name assosciation) "composition" (i think) person has a patient and/or user
10:54:34 <bwolfe> hibernate does fine with out mapping and saving, etc
10:54:55 <bwolfe> the only problem hibernate has is with fetching a User when a Patient was already fetched in that same session
10:55:19 <bwolfe> (or the opposite: fetching a Patient when a User of that same id was fetched already in that same session)
10:56:09 <bwolfe> I found the place in the hibernate code a while back that was causing it...we used that library for a while. but for tammy to do her overriding of encounter objects, I had to take that out
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11:00:14 <upul> last time i didn't find the test method because i search with a space at the end
11:02:18 <bwolfe> ah. cool. thanks for the followup. its good to know that your eclipse isn't crazy :-)
11:04:25 <upul> anyway i think it is not right to have two rows in both patient and user tables for the same person id, because in object space there cannot be an object like that, this looks "unconventional" from how hibernate works :-)
11:04:45 <upul> may be i need to read more
11:05:38 <bwolfe> if you do read more, and find a better way to map it, let me know!
11:05:52 <bwolfe> there will definitely be patients that are also users
11:05:59 <bwolfe> so we need to get that mapping done somehow
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13:24:59 <nribeka> hi all
13:25:15 <nribeka> where can i get the username and password for svn?
13:25:16 <nribeka> :D
13:26:16 <james_regen> bwolfe set me up a while ago, though i don't know who's administrating the repository now
13:26:37 <nribeka> ah, thanks james_regen :D
13:27:01 <bwolfe> nribeka: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers#Requesting_Subversion_Repository_Access
13:27:10 <nribeka> yupz
13:27:14 <nribeka> send email :P
13:29:46 <nribeka> bwolfe: which one is the module id?
13:29:51 <nribeka> folder in the svn repo?
13:30:30 <bwolfe> if you're writing a module, it is going to have a unique id for it. we use that id as the folder name in svn to make things consistent
13:31:07 <nribeka> ok :D
13:33:40 <nribeka> sent
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13:54:30 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #730 (defect closed): admin/test does not work for HibernateAlertDAOTest <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/730#comment:1> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #735 (defect created): MessageServiceTest Fails <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/735> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #726 (defect closed): Module interoperability unit test fails <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/726#comment:1>
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15:18:48 <r0bby> pohhey
15:24:50 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #735 (defect closed): MessageServiceTest Fails <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/735#comment:1> || OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #734 (defect closed): Patient search does not support double-barrel first names <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/734#comment:7>
15:25:36 <bwolfe> pohhey?
15:25:41 <bwolfe> poohey?
15:30:42 <r0bby> don't aks
15:30:45 <r0bby> I made it up
15:30:51 <r0bby> The scheduling sucks
15:31:00 <r0bby> I think about 3-4 people will not make it :X
15:31:16 <r0bby> I took it because lh could host us herself -- it lessens the work she has to do
15:31:23 <r0bby> =X
15:35:06 <bwolfe> yeah, accommodating lh is always the best and most important thing
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16:01:09 <r0bby> oh no
16:01:26 <r0bby> I'm gonna have a shitload of people show up now :(
16:01:32 <r0bby> I just posted a blog post announcing it
16:02:37 <r0bby> http://robbyoconnor.blogspot.com/2008/05/google-soc-ny-nj-ct-meet-at-google-ny.html
16:02:38 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1r7C> (at robbyoconnor.blogspot.com)
16:10:11 <bwolfe> ha!
16:10:40 <bwolfe> your meetup is right after our openmrs conference
16:13:59 <r0bby> LOL
16:14:05 <r0bby> lh is getting annoyed with me
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18:57:28 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4149]: birtmodule: Updated readme and .classpath <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4149> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4148]: birtmodule: Fixed parameter issue and implemented "reports tab" for … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4148> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4147]: Fixed ticket #735. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4147> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4146]: Changed findPatients so that it searches for multiple-word names such as … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4146> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4145]: Fixing the HibernateAlertDAOTest - #730 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4145> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4144]: Fixing Module Interoperability unit test - #726 <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4144> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4143]: data_synchronization_bidirectional branch. Fixed unit tests, added more … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4143> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4142]: child-vct-report: updated to work with new scheduler. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4142> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4141]: -- openmrs report-api-refactoring * added 2 more read method signatures … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4141> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4140]: -- openmrs report-api-refactoring * fixed and re-enabled the logic … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4140> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4139]: report-api-refactoring: Fixing a few more junit tests <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4139> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4138]: -- openmrs report-api-refactoring * fixed some @see tags * fixed … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4138> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4137]: report-api-refactoring: Adding fixes for junit tests, comments, etc <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4137> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4136]: -- openmrs report-api-refactoring * fixed a null pointer exception in … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4136> || OpenMRS Modules: BirtReportModule 1.6 uploaded to OpenMRS Module Repository <https://dev.openmrs.org/modules/view.jsp?module=birt&version=&1.6>
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20:43:50 <nribeka> bwolfe: just want to make sure :D
20:43:57 <nribeka> the comment that i should put is:
20:43:59 <nribeka> patientmatching module: Added methods of estimating u-values by using random sampling - #710
20:44:50 <bwolfe> yep, looks good...if you want to shorten it you could just put patientmatching: Added etc etc
20:45:32 <nribeka> ok ok. thanks :D
20:46:36 <nribeka> fingers crossed
20:47:26 <nribeka> committed :D
20:48:06 <bwolfe> yep, good work nribeka
20:48:43 <nribeka> hehe ... thanks bwolfe :D
20:49:04 <bwolfe> congrats
20:49:59 <nribeka> still long way to go bwolfe
20:51:49 <nribeka> are you still working at this time bwolfe?
20:52:20 <bwolfe> kind of
20:52:26 <bwolfe> just email and what not as I watch tv
20:53:30 <nribeka> same then :P
20:53:49 <nribeka> i watch survivor haha :D
20:56:50 <bwolfe> eh, survivor sucks :-p
20:57:36 <nribeka> haha ...
20:57:50 <nribeka> i find it funny :P
21:02:08 <nribeka> what do you watch bwolfe?
21:02:29 <bwolfe> we're watching grey's anatomy right now
21:19:27 <nribeka> ah, we don't have it back home :D
21:19:35 <nribeka> we only have csi
21:26:44 <r0bby> wow
21:27:26 * r0bby sorta pissed lh off :x
21:27:49 <r0bby> but all is good she wants me to be less...vocal
21:29:21 <nribeka> hehe ... :D
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21:33:46 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4152]: patientmatching: Added methods of estimating u-values by using random … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4152> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4151]: Fixed slight spacing issue in data export workflow columns <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4151> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4150]: Reorganized options in Data Export simple column to order suggested by … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4150>
21:33:55 <Keelhaul> hi
21:36:31 <r0bby> nribeka one thing
21:36:40 <r0bby> no need to javadoc private fields :P
21:36:49 <r0bby> they're not accessible outside the class
21:37:02 <nribeka> did i made it javadoc comments?
21:37:19 <nribeka> ah thanks r0bby
21:37:28 <nribeka> :D
21:37:30 <r0bby> yes -- /** javadoc */
21:39:26 <r0bby> you started working already? I haven't :X
21:40:15 <nribeka> is there anything else that i miss r0bby?
21:40:36 <nribeka> i have nothing to do :P
21:41:32 <nribeka> well, everything is not officially started yet until May 26(?)
21:44:40 <r0bby> neither od I
21:44:43 <r0bby> do I*
21:44:55 <r0bby> keep your commetns there
21:45:08 <r0bby> it makes your code readable
21:46:54 <r0bby> just won't make it into the javadocs if you generate them
21:52:10 <nribeka> any more comments for my code?
22:16:31 <Keelhaul> hum
22:16:36 <bwolfe> nribeka, r0bby, javadoc comments on private methods are just fine
22:16:39 <Keelhaul> is it even possible to add own search widgets
22:16:48 <bwolfe> I like having the same uniform blue color for method comments
22:17:22 <bwolfe> and just because it won't be generated doesn't mean it won't be read...others will need to come after you and see what you did and how to use or modify what you did
22:17:36 <bwolfe> so commenting all methods and parameters is always best :-)
22:17:45 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: sure
22:17:51 <Keelhaul> well i created some
22:17:58 <Keelhaul> but i'm not sure how to access them
22:18:27 <bwolfe> r0bby: lh doesn't really get mad. don't worry. you're just taking things too personally as usual :-)
22:18:30 <Keelhaul> standard ones use dojo.widget.openmrs.WuteverSearch
22:18:48 <r0bby> she doesn't get mad -- just *REALLY* blunt
22:18:57 <bwolfe> when is she ever not blunt? :-p
22:19:05 <r0bby> oh trust me she was blunt
22:19:18 <bwolfe> she likes to help her students
22:19:27 <bwolfe> and so sometimes she has to speak so you listen...
22:19:33 <Keelhaul> what did she tell you
22:22:59 <bwolfe> nribeka: are you still in PA ?
22:23:20 <nribeka> yupz
22:23:30 <nribeka> i will be here all the time :P
22:23:39 <bwolfe> are you staying there through the summer ?
22:23:57 <nribeka> yupz, no plan to go anywhere :D
22:24:18 <bwolfe> ah, cool
22:24:35 <Keelhaul> i wish i was in PA
22:24:39 <bwolfe> theres a chance I may be out there in pittsburgh next weekend
22:24:48 <nribeka> wow ... cool
22:24:50 <bwolfe> if so, we should try and grab coffee somewhere
22:25:15 <nribeka> yeah that will be great :D
22:25:22 <bwolfe> theres also a chance that I will be off in a different city altogether. :-/
22:25:46 <nribeka> bwolfe, you travel a lot ...
22:25:55 <bwolfe> my wife's cousin is graduating. I don't know if we're heading up to her college (Bucknell) and staying there the whole time, or if we're going to be up there for a bit then back down to Pittsburgh
22:26:16 <bwolfe> eh, I don't travel that much
22:26:25 <bwolfe> now Paul, /he/ travels a lot :-)
22:26:45 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: have you been to the States before?
22:26:55 <nribeka> hehe ... will you attend the openmrs conf?
22:27:20 <bwolfe> of course
22:27:22 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: i've been to boston back in 97/98
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22:27:41 <bwolfe> james was on this late?
22:27:44 <bwolfe> wow...
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22:28:03 <nribeka> hi james_regen
22:28:09 <nribeka> i commit the code already
22:28:26 <r0bby> this is entertainment right here
22:28:43 <r0bby> watching the clueless funpidgin devs who don't even understand autotools
22:29:05 <r0bby> or have as advanced knowledge of the library as the pidgin devs do
22:29:06 <nribeka> bwolfe: wow ... i want to go to openmrs conf too hehe ... one day ... :D
22:29:23 <bwolfe> nribeka: theres a chance he was just auto-logged in on his work computer and james isn't really here :-p
22:29:28 <Keelhaul> they banned me from the pidgin channel a few years ago
22:29:42 <bwolfe> banned? why?
22:29:55 <bwolfe> ...and don't you mean the gaim channel?
22:29:57 <bwolfe> :-p
22:30:08 <Keelhaul> i told one of the devs to "shut up" after he got condescending after hearing that i was using the windows version
22:30:13 <Keelhaul> back when it was still Gaim
22:30:18 <Keelhaul> yes gaim
22:30:22 <Keelhaul> isnt that the same ppl?
22:30:22 <nribeka> ah ic ...
22:30:23 <bwolfe> nribeka: the conference will probably continue to happen on a yearly basis
22:31:07 <nribeka> will it ever be held in the States?
22:31:16 <bwolfe> no, probably not
22:33:18 <nribeka> i'm just curious with that kind of conf
22:33:25 <nribeka> never been to a conf before :(
22:33:56 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: any clue for me on how to link to my widgets? they're in web/dojo/widget/ from my module's pov
22:34:21 <Keelhaul> dojo.require("openmrs.module.inpatientcare.dojo.widget.CaseSearch"); this doesnt work, for example
22:34:29 <bwolfe> hmm
22:34:29 <Keelhaul> tried a few different combinations too
22:34:49 <bwolfe> well, the other ones are in /scripts/dojo/src/widgets/openmrs
22:35:08 <bwolfe> you can reach yours via /moduleResources/yourmoduleid/dojo/widget
22:35:23 <r0bby> Keelhaul: bad move
22:35:33 <r0bby> *NEVER* tell an op to shut up
22:35:41 <Keelhaul> that depends on the op
22:35:48 <bwolfe> I don't remember all of dojo's in's and out's, but I think you can just do that html include at the top of your file, then do all your dojo stuff with whatever path you give it
22:35:51 <Keelhaul> but devs tend to be no bs types, yes
22:36:04 <Keelhaul> hm
22:52:32 <bwolfe> atomicturtle: question for you: http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=282&p=1207#p1207
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22:54:06 <bwolfe> heading out
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