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<r0bby> i *LITERALLY* just woke up
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<r0bby> of course :P
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<mshanks> lol
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<mshanks> mIRC looks very odd right now ¬.¬
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<mshanks> :p
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<mshanks> you can tell?! :p
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<r0bby> So yeah -- 1st thing i screwed up the module the form won't even load; secondly code-wise i'm stuck at how to start
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<burke> and put your glasses on! I feel blurry.
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<r0bby> Last night i was thinking of using AOP :X
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<r0bby> which is probably extreme overklill
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<burke> yes.
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<mshanks> aop = ?
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<r0bby> Aspect Oriented Programming
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<r0bby> it's what Modules use to interact w/ openmrs
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<r0bby> aka Extention points
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<r0bby> Advice and such
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<burke> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect-oriented_programming
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<r0bby> you never heard of Spring AOP ;)
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<burke> pretty soon, we'll just use "a"
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<burke> and, r0bby, you're correct. AOP is overkill for the groovyforms module
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<burke> i think we should create a simple use case, story board it (make a mock up of the screens a user should see and what they do on each), then build that and iterate
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<r0bby> I already kinda have a mock up in my head
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<burke> Have you read the Story of the Floss? (http://openmrs.org/wiki/The_Story_of_the_Floss)
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<r0bby> no, i didnt know it existed
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<burke> so, we need to get that out of your head. b/c i'm betting that there are differences b/w our mockups.
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<r0bby> it's your form with two added buttons
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<r0bby> I basically described workflow sort of
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<r0bby> I had it there?
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<burke> I think we can break the workflow down into steps
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<burke> let me lay out some steps on the module page... just a sec.
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<r0bby> burke: i had them in a pseudo-folder :P
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<burke> yeah. so far, we've been using "FooBar Module" for module documentation pages & adding the wiki category "Module Documentation" to these pages
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<burke> arrgh. i was trying to go to the demo site and it just went down. :x
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<r0bby> also
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<r0bby> he page "/openmrs/module/groovy/groovyForm.form" cannot be found. Check the link and try again.
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<r0bby> i screwed it up a bit :X
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<burke> ok. i've downloaded a local copy of the GroovyForms module... I'll take a look
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<burke> GroovyActivator should become GroovyFormsActivator
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<r0bby> yeh :x
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<r0bby> you gonna make that change?
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<r0bby> Should we still work with the services?
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<r0bby> because we actually have access to the api
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<r0bby> already i believe
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<burke> if only I had an easy way to add comments to a code review...
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<r0bby> burke: why not add them directly to the code?
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<burke> at this stage, I'd rather be fairly hands-off and let you do the coding... just to make sure you know everything that's going on.
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<r0bby> did you see my email to the dev@ list
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<burke> yes. that's what I was referring to. :p
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<r0bby> right now i *NEED* help
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<burke> hehe
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<burke> okay.
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<burke> i'll make some changes and commit, then.
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<r0bby> I just turned your for each loop on the groovy module docs to 100.times { ... }
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<r0bby> 100.times { c = concept.getConcept(it)
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<r0bby> it does the same thing =) i checked.
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<r0bby> burke: here's what i was thinking say a user selects a Patient as their property -- we should pull all the fields of Patient up and create a form accordingly
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<r0bby> basically reflect :x
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<burke> actually, r0bby. we don't need to make it easy for people to edit our domain objects
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<burke> if someone includes a Patient as a property in their form model, then we'd want to render a patient selector
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<r0bby> ah like a checkbox?
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<r0bby> erm drop-down
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<burke> our standard patient picker
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<r0bby> yes -- but what if they want to create a patient? :x I'd assume they'd read the javadocs and see what kind of information the domain object asks for
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<burke> okay. i'm close to having it working.
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<burke> if they want to create a patient, then they'll need to include the pieces required for a patient (names, birthdate, etc.) as parts of their form and then call the API in their form controller to create the patient
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<r0bby> ah ok
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<r0bby> I actually really wanna get this working :X
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<r0bby> Now that implementors know its coming :x
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<r0bby> the patient selecter -- that's a drop-down box of some sort right :x
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<cancer> hi bmckown ru there??
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<bmckown> Hi, cancer, How are you?
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<r0bby> I'm gonna be knee-deep in stuff I never wanted to touch in my life :D
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<burke> r0bby: take a look at the location management (http://demo.openmrs.org/openmrs/admin/encounters/location.list)
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<burke> ideally, you'd click on the Mange GroovyForms link from the admin page and get an overview of existing groovy forms along with a link to create a new one (you'd also be able to edit or delete groovyforms from there)
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<cancer> yep fine... i faced few problems today... i deployed openmrs successfully in my system few days back but today suddenly the column for find patient disappeared i mean the top column so i reverted the proj and rebuilt it... but now my server doesnt start this particular application... i need ur healp
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<r0bby> NICE!!!!
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<r0bby> and we're storing these on the FS -- sounds reasonable no need to dig into the database
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<cancer> so robby how's your project going on?? i see u posting threads in the morning and in the irc channel in the night... then when will u sleep??
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<burke> r0bby: yeah. we'll need to establish a home directory for groovy forms (as a global property or a runtime property)...i'll look for an example for you.
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<r0bby> I havent started
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<cancer> bmckown: u there?
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<r0bby> jesus christ ]
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<bmckown> yes, cancer. How are you?
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<r0bby> I advertise my list and the shit hits the fan
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<burke> r0bby: the FormEntry module is a behemoth, but it uses global properties to set file system directories for storing its files, we can use that as an example
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<r0bby> now it turns into a week-long thread :)
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<bmckown> r0bby, burke Am i /really/ here?
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<r0bby> bmckown: no
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<r0bby> you're figments of uhm... our...your? imagination
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<bmckown> Well, I'm never /really/ here I guess.
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<cancer> haha... i asked for ur help... i think u dint notice it...
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<r0bby> i canb argue none of you really exist :)
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<burke> it looks like the new bmckown bot is working out well :p
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<r0bby> I just magically get help from little goblins :)
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<bmckown> Hi, cancer. Sure I can help.
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<bmckown> burke is a great man ... dat dat dat
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<burke> okay, r0bby. gotta run for a bit. i'll check back later. I'll also finish typing out a proposed workflow for you.
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<r0bby> i gotta go too
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<burke> FYI - I'll be sending out something to the interns list either this weekend or early next week, to let everyone know what's expected for starting GSoC on May 26.
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<burke> talk 2 ya later
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<r0bby> how many hours minimum do you expect etc etc
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<r0bby> of course im obsessive so :x
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<bmckown> cancer, what can I help with?
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<cancer> bmckown...suddenly my findpatient column disappeared ie the top column all of a sudden... so i reverted my proj and rebuilt it but now tomcat server doesnt starts the particular application...
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<bmckown> Can you look in the tomcat directory to see if the openmrs.war file is there?
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<r0bby> it could be a data source problem
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<bmckown> Can you either stop or kill tomcat? Then move everything out of the modules folder.
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<cancer> do you ve any idea abt this prob?? i have never faced any prob like this before... tat too after building the project successfully this happens
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<bmckown> It happens sometimes.
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<bmckown> Did you have any modules installed?
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<cancer> if the war is not there i can say somethin is wrong but the war file is there
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<cancer> no nothing... i have no modules installed
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<bmckown> ah okay.
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<bmckown> and you killed or stopped Apache Tomcat?
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<cancer> yeah i done that
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<r0bby> burke_away: i probably will use groovlets for form generation if i can figure out how to do it :X -- but i'd like it in an AJAX manner that they see it working :x
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<bmckown> Sometimes it likes things taken out of the tomcat/conf directory... but you can *try* to start tomcat now with no openmrs.
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<bmckown> then see if tomcat will start.
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<cancer> hurray its working
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<cancer> thank you bmckown :)
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<bmckown> openmrs is running now?
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<cancer> yeah its running bmckown :)
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<bmckown> Ah, cool. :-) Good work.
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<r0bby> I spelled it wrong
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<mshanks> heh I know
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<mshanks> :p
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<r0bby> so he doesnt have time :x
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<r0bby> somehow I have to get started on my own
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<mshanks> you worry far too much rob
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<mshanks> technically we don't even start for another 3 weeks
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<r0bby> I know :<
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<r0bby> << crazy
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<mshanks> heh
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<mshanks> just relax and be patient. you're not expected to knock this thing out in a week or two
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<r0bby> I know :(
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<r0bby> but I have extra things i want to do
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<r0bby> (AJAX wizard)
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<mshanks> heh tell me about it. got a list the size of my arm of things to do this summer
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<mshanks> but right at the top is gsoc
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<r0bby> I just wanna get a list of tasks
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<r0bby> so I see what needs to be done and can check em off as i go
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<r0bby> my whiteboard is going to be insane
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<mshanks> heh
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<mshanks> I don't have the comfort of such an item. Got one here, but I moving out of this hole in 4-5 weeks
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<r0bby> I have a *HUGE* one
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<mshanks> heh
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<r0bby> it's big enough :)
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<r0bby> that i could work through an entire calc problem :)
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<mshanks> lol
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<nribeka> have a great weekend everyone.
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<nribeka> see you all tomorrow
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<nribeka> :D
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<r0bby> bwolfe: you're my backup mentor
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<r0bby> heh
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<r0bby> you do know groovy right :P
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<r0bby> (not that burke will go flakey on me :P)
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<bwolfe> nope, I don't know any groovy r0bby :-)
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<bwolfe> I'm just around for openmrs type of support
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<bwolfe> hehe
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<bwolfe> and hey, why haven't I been included on your documents and mailings?? bad burke!
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<burke> bwolfe: we've exchanged e-mails twice... both times to set up a time to talk (or irc). I can copy those to you if you want. :p
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<zioalex> Hi Guys
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<bwolfe> welcome zioalex
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<bwolfe> burke: yes! I need those! ...especially after the fact :-p
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<zioalex> Thank you
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<bwolfe> what brings you our way?
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<r0bby> burke: when you refer to "we"
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<r0bby> who is "we"
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<burke> we is we
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<r0bby> should i start CC'ing ben when i email?
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<burke> sure
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<r0bby> I found out via the socwiki :P
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<burke> but the point is to include him when we're talking about technical stuff. which will mostly happen on dev or in here, I suspect. or on our wiki page
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<r0bby> burke: did you happen to take notes the time i spoke to you in atlantic city (I had no place to actually sit down and write)
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<r0bby> I remember most of it (as you saw it was more or less how to bind the data types
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<zioalex> Some days/months agi I had an idea...I think a good idea for the people...And So I'm searching the web to see if somebody has done something similar to my idea...
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<r0bby> storage -- flat filess
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<r0bby> I basically paced :x
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<burke> yeah. i was pacing too
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<r0bby> I should at some point blog this
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<burke> no requirements until May 26
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<zioalex> So I try to show you my idea...perhaps you can give me some idea...
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<r0bby> burke: i tried to change your loop for the 100 concepts example on the groovy module page but ran into a problem as ids aren't zero-based
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<r0bby> 100.times goes from 0 to 99
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<r0bby> :x
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<r0bby> I learned that much ;x
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<r0bby> burke: thanks for getting my mock-up of the entry form working
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<r0bby> burke: i was thinking when the user goes to the form to generate a new Form -- on the top there would be a link "Manage Forms" which will contain a drop-down box containing all the forms in the system
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<r0bby> s/link/drop-down/
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<burke> that won't scale.
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<r0bby> good point
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<burke> if this flys, an implementation could have dozens or even hundreds of foms
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<r0bby> 1000 forms and it gets insane
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<r0bby> this will fly
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<r0bby> I'll be damned if this doesn't
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<r0bby> I will personally go and make people use it
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<zioalex> I was thinking to do a personal Clinical Record system for all the people.
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<r0bby> zioalex: use OpenMRS :)
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<r0bby> Darius offered his help
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<zioalex> I think to integrate it with current hospital and Government system
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<zioalex> :-)
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<r0bby> zioalex: developing nation?
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<r0bby> if so this is what OpenMRS is for :)
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<zioalex> not only...
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<r0bby> :x
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<zioalex> I know , for my personal experience, that in developed nation too the medical data could be very disorganized!
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<r0bby> jesus -- zioalex: what do you think OpenMRS is for ;)
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<r0bby> burke and docpaul have been to these places and saw it
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<burke> our target is primarily developing countries. some have found some uses in the U.S. ... but that's not our focus/mission
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<r0bby> burke: are you in Doctors w/o Borders? or some other org. that goes to these nations?
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<burke> frankly, we're happy to be flying under the radar of the U.S. at this point
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<burke> no. our connection is through the IU-Kenya program (http://iukenya.org)
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<r0bby> I was talking w/ my mother after the call and she asked that -- i wasn't sure
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<r0bby> ah okay :)
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<r0bby> she seems to be impressed
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<zioalex> Yes sure I've seen the demo...But my thought was to do something that can help the user primarly and the doctor...
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<r0bby> burke -- i don't think i'll implement a DSL using BuilderSupport (when and if the time comes; i'll use ExpandoMetaClass)
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<r0bby> if i write the system to read in XML and generate the form from that -- in some way caching these forms :X
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<r0bby> :x
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<zioalex> I was thinking to something like www.ihealthrecord.org but open... Somebody can give me any direction?
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<burke> zioalex: there are other open source medical record systems, e.g. Care2x
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<burke> zioalex: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Open-Source_EMRs
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<zioalex> Thanks burke
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<zioalex> A lot...Now I've to read...
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<r0bby> zioalex: OpenMRS is the best cause =)
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<zioalex> :-) I appreciate your work...But now I have another vocation :-)
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<zioalex> Thanks Guys now I go to sleep. Byee Have a nice WE
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<r0bby> sleep?!
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<r0bby> mmm i think i will
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<zioalex> Yes sometimes I'll do
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<r0bby> wow
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<r0bby> NetBeans 6.1 is nice.
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<r0bby> Re: Thomas's message on dev@
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<r0bby> BOO!
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