IRC Chat : 2008-04-28 - OpenMRS

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00:30:02 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Upul Godage: upul <http://upulgsoc.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/openmrs-high-level-architecture/>
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02:00:29 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #710 (enhancement created): Incorporate method of estimating u-values by random sampling <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/710>
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03:45:00 <mshanks> oi r0bby
03:45:09 <mshanks> spare me the stupid facebook application invites please
03:45:10 <mshanks> :p
03:45:11 <mshanks> hate them
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08:20:39 <upul> bwolfe, Hi
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08:21:44 <bwolfe> hey upul
08:21:48 <bwolfe> how goes life?
08:22:11 <upul> my blog annoucement's title is missing, it is just 'upul'
08:22:29 <bwolfe> where is this ?
08:22:46 <upul> openmrs homepage
08:24:58 <bwolfe> hmm, very odd
08:25:00 <bwolfe> will look into it
08:25:12 <upul> ok just to let you know
08:27:22 <bwolfe> yep, thanks for that
08:27:36 <bwolfe> haven't gotten to my rss feeds just yet
08:28:02 <bwolfe> grr
08:28:23 <bwolfe> I'm trying to edit the post in feedjack...but its telling me your comments url is not valid. but it is valid. very annoying
08:28:55 <upul> is a 'hello world...' url
08:29:07 <upul> is it
08:30:13 <upul> the 'first' entry link i changed later, i only saw it later that i have modified the default entry
08:30:33 <bwolfe> ok, modified the post entry that feedjack is storing. openmrs homepage will be updated after the cache times out (20-30 mins maybe?)
08:31:04 <bwolfe> so did you initially post it with a title or "upul", or did you always use "openmrs high level architecture" ?
08:31:30 <upul> no i never used upul for links
08:31:53 <upul> it was the default on '...arch...' one
08:32:23 <bwolfe> arch?
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08:32:23 <bwolfe> what do you mean?
08:32:25 <upul> openmrs high level architecture
08:32:54 <bwolfe> oh, arch=architecture. got it. :-)
08:33:19 <bwolfe> forgive me, I haven't entirely woken up yet. :-/
08:33:19 <upul> so there must be something mixed up in the one mapping the new entry details to title
08:33:25 <upul> title field
08:33:26 <bwolfe> yeah, must be...but its never done that before
08:33:49 <bwolfe> and there are no overrides in your entry in feedjack...so I have no idea why that happened :-/
08:33:55 <bwolfe> maybe feedjack just has it in for you!
08:34:19 <upul> i didn't do anything to feedjack
08:34:36 <upul> i haven't even met him ;)
08:34:49 <bwolfe> hmm, well, maybe you accidentally insulted its mother or something. were you recently talking trash to or about anyone?
08:36:36 <upul> only about ben wolfe
08:37:20 <bwolfe> ah...thats it then! feedjack has my back.
08:37:59 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4042]: xformsorbeon module: testing snv from new machine <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4042> || Upul Godage: OpenMRS High Level Architecture <http://upulgsoc.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/openmrs-high-level-architecture/>
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08:40:53 <bwolfe> upul: the cache timing was with you. the openmrs homepage has been updated already. :-)
08:41:05 <bwolfe> problem #1 of the day solved. :-)
08:41:13 <upul> yes thanks
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09:06:56 <nribeka> hi bwolfe
09:07:17 <nribeka> in the .classpath file there's entry that looks like this
09:07:18 <bwolfe> hey nribeka
09:07:24 <nribeka> <classpathentry kind="lib" path="lib/jfreechart/jfreechart-1.0.1.jar" sourcepath="/openmrs-source/jfreechart-1.0.3-src.zip"/>
09:07:39 <nribeka> where can i find the /openmrs-source
09:07:41 <nribeka> :D
09:07:56 <bwolfe> openmrs-source can be checked out from the /openmrs-contrib folder in our svn
09:08:20 <bwolfe> hmm, where should we document that? are there developer FAQs nribeka ?
09:08:36 <nribeka> lemme check
09:12:44 <nribeka> i don't think it's there bwolfe
09:13:41 <nribeka> another one bwolfe
09:14:13 <nribeka> i check out a fresh source from trunk but it failed to build :P
09:14:20 <nribeka> missing so many lib
09:14:35 <nribeka> does anyone have the same problem or is it just me?
09:15:23 <bwolfe> you might need a clean build
09:16:17 <nribeka> clean, refresh but no go haha ... :D
09:16:41 <bwolfe> do you have jars in your /lib subfolders ?
09:17:02 <bwolfe> did the svn checkout report any errors?
09:17:24 <bwolfe> what does the "problems" tab say in eclipse for that openmrs checkout?
09:17:53 <nribeka> everything is intact actually
09:18:11 <nribeka> but somehow eclipse failed to build everything
09:18:51 <nribeka> all jars is already under referenced libraries node in the package explorer
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09:34:56 <bwolfe> nribeka: hmm, I don't know
09:35:04 <bwolfe> whats in that "problems" view ?
09:35:32 <nribeka> bwolfe: missing required library 42 entry
09:35:39 <bwolfe> have you tried an "ant clean" (open the "ant" view, drag-drop build.xml into it, select "clean", then select "compile-api")
09:35:40 <nribeka> probably it's just in my comp
09:35:53 <nribeka> i resolve it though
09:36:07 <nribeka> i remove some library entry from the .classpath
09:36:21 <nribeka> and overwrite it from the svn again
09:36:26 <nribeka> and the error is gone
09:36:37 <nribeka> something is wrong with my eclipse
09:37:37 <bwolfe> hmm, so maybe just refreshing the .classpath file would have worked?
09:37:52 <bwolfe> nribeka: care to start a Developers FAQs page and throwing these solutions up there ? :-)
09:38:17 <nribeka> wow ...
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09:38:42 <nribeka> will write something there :D
09:39:08 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Installation trouble when starting OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=368#p1182> || OpenMRS Forum: Installation trouble when starting OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=368#p1181>
09:39:14 * nribeka is hoping he will not made any typo
09:39:27 <bwolfe> nribeka: its a wiki...don't worry :-)
09:39:42 <nribeka> :P
09:39:56 <bwolfe> there are many people watching all edits and do a quick glance at them to see if any edits are in order
09:40:07 <bwolfe> ...or maybe its just me that watches all edits, I'm not sure
09:40:09 <bwolfe> :-p
09:41:23 <nribeka> where should i put it?
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09:41:47 <nribeka> how to use eclipse page?
09:41:59 <bwolfe> link to it from the developers page
09:42:01 <bwolfe> !developers
09:42:01 <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "developers" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers
09:50:20 <nribeka> i don't understand it bwolfe :(
09:50:36 <nribeka> do you mean creating a new page and link to the dev page?
09:50:59 <bwolfe> create the new page and link to the new page from the developers page
09:51:41 <nribeka> ah ok
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10:07:18 <nribeka> bwolfe: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developer_FAQ
10:07:28 <nribeka> what do you think?
10:07:40 * nribeka is crossing his fingers
10:07:51 <bwolfe> cool
10:08:00 <bwolfe> http://openmrs.org/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Developer_FAQ
10:08:01 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1px+> (at openmrs.org)
10:08:01 <bwolfe> :-(
10:08:22 <nribeka> i haven't update the Dev page
10:08:25 <nribeka> :P
10:08:27 <bwolfe> the "openmrs-source" question you had would be a good one to add as well
10:08:44 <nribeka> i want to make it like the openmrs faq page
10:08:45 <bwolfe> yeah, I figured you just hadn't gotten to it yet. I was teasing. :-)
10:09:11 <nribeka> do you know how to make the page looks like the openmrs faq page
10:09:15 <nribeka> haha ... lolz :P
10:09:55 <bwolfe> nribeka: you did it already. after there are 3 or more headlines on taht page the "table of contents" will appear at the top
10:10:19 <nribeka> ah ok ok :D
10:10:34 <nribeka> didn't know that :P
10:10:44 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #711 (task created): stack overflow in hashCode method of LogicCacheEntryKey 3983 report-api-refactoring <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/711> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4043]: report_api_refactoring branch: adding (awesome) class comments <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4043> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4042]: xformsorbeon module: testing svn from new machine <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4042>
10:11:03 <bwolfe> nribeka: yep, its a mediawiki thing
10:11:32 <nribeka> ah ic :D cool :D
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11:09:48 <bwolfe> nribeka: awesome, thanks for those changes! :-)
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11:10:36 <bwolfe> nzeyi: do you have a blog of some sort set up yet ?
11:10:44 <nribeka> hehe ... :D
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11:12:47 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4044]: report-api-refactoring: Changing data source entries to allow for merging … <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4044> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4036]: synchronization-birdirectional: Added obs_group_id as an index. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4036> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4034]: child-vct-report: First working version. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4034>
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11:42:53 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Sri Prasanna: Homepage of deployed OpenMRS in my system <http://cancerb0y.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/deploying-openmrs-in-my-computer/>
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11:50:26 <nribeka> got to run. ttl bwolfe :D
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13:25:11 <pearlbear> I wonder if this would be useful... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree
13:25:14 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1pyv> (at www.mediawiki.org)
13:27:30 <[OmacbookX]> pearlbear, that looks pretty good
13:27:40 <[OmacbookX]> Of course, we need proper categories first =)
13:28:50 <pearlbear> yeah, getting there.
13:29:01 <pearlbear> Look at this: http://openmrs.org/wiki/DevelDocDraft
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13:29:37 <[OmacbookX]> Very cool
13:29:42 <pearlbear> next step is to draft a list of subcategories for dev docs
13:30:14 <pearlbear> using categories and subcategories are far from intuitive on mediawiki, sadly
13:31:05 <bwolfe> very sad indeed
13:31:10 <[OmacbookX]> What's the method now?
13:31:18 <bwolfe> we'll need some documentation about how to document soon. :-p
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13:31:39 <[OmacbookX]> bwolfe, we're planning on that, too
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13:32:10 <bwolfe> that mw extension above looks nifty. does it just give a way to show mw's normal cat/subcat ability, its not adding its own, right?
13:34:53 <pearlbear> bwolfe: right
13:35:50 <pearlbear> so I have now grokked the category/subcategory thing. First, you make a category. Then, if you want to make that a subcategory of something, categorize the category page. (what a mouthful!)
13:36:34 <[OmacbookX]> lol
13:36:39 <pearlbear> so if we set up the structure, it should be OK - we just have to give people guidance
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13:44:18 <pearlbear> Here's a start on the categories list: http://openmrs.org/wiki/CategoryList
13:44:21 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4045]: Removed duplicate indexing of obs_group_id. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4045>
13:46:20 <[OmacbookX]> Cool. I'll see if I have anything to add to it later
13:47:13 <pearlbear> Cool. I'm gonna send out an email to the devs list
13:48:00 <bwolfe> Cool. (I just wanted to fit in)
13:48:27 <[OmacbookX]> lol
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14:05:21 <pearlbear> hi docpaul
14:06:32 <docpaul> hi. :)
14:07:12 <[OmacbookX]> docpaul, heya
14:07:21 <docpaul> hi. :)
14:07:23 <docpaul> bb in a sec
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14:09:21 <bwolfe> man, you need to talk fast with docpaul :-p
14:09:32 <bwolfe> you get allotted less than a minute before he takes off
14:09:34 <bwolfe> hehe
14:12:44 <docpaul> :)
14:12:46 <docpaul> here
14:20:16 * r0bby looks around
14:21:09 <r0bby> pearlbear: you're making docs right? Make pdfs :)
14:21:27 <[OmacbookX]> Why PDFs?
14:24:58 <jmiranda> hey docpaul ...
14:25:03 <jmiranda> dang i missed him
14:31:57 <pearlbear> r0bby: sorry, dude. No pdfs
14:32:11 <pearlbear> at least, not until later
14:33:05 <pearlbear> actually, r0bby how about this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Pdf_Export
14:33:06 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1pza> (at www.mediawiki.org)
14:33:12 <r0bby> [OmacbookX]: all ib ibe opkace
14:33:28 <r0bby> pearlbear: lemme see
14:34:39 <r0bby> that works -- but i want all OpenMRS docs in one place
14:34:50 <r0bby> and not doctors :P
14:35:02 <r0bby> docpaul: Hi!
14:35:03 <bwolfe> r0bby: whats "all ib ibe opkace" ???
14:35:03 <r0bby> :)
14:35:07 <pearlbear> this is actually cool: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Pdf_Book
14:35:08 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1pzd> (at www.mediawiki.org)
14:35:33 <r0bby> pearlbear: perfect!
14:35:36 <r0bby> pearlbear++
14:35:37 <r0bby> pearlbear++
14:35:41 <r0bby> pearlbear++
14:35:43 <r0bby> perfect
14:35:58 <bwolfe> yep, if we get all of the categories right :-)
14:35:58 <pearlbear> wow. I made r0bby happy. Good thing. :-P
14:36:34 <pearlbear> and categorize all the pages, too
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15:08:14 <r0bby> okay i
15:08:29 <r0bby> ve done everything needed that i spoke to burke about i think
15:08:38 <r0bby> other than accidentally busting the module
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15:13:29 <r0bby> hey AndersG
15:13:51 <AndersG> hello!
15:15:00 <[OmacbookX]> Heya AndersG
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15:15:54 <AndersG> what's happening? :)
15:17:23 <[OmacbookX]> Haven't seen you in a while
15:17:42 <AndersG> trying to stay away to get things done.. goes for all chat apps :)
15:17:47 <docpaul> robby: how did your chat with burke go?
15:18:02 <docpaul> heya AndersG !
15:18:21 <AndersG> hopefully that period will be over in not too long and i can become normal again ;)
15:18:34 <AndersG> hello docpaul :)
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15:52:06 <mshanks> ...
15:52:17 <mshanks> was just about to ask paul a question
15:52:18 <mshanks> grr
15:56:12 <r0bby> mshanks: paul AT openmrs DOT org
15:56:20 <mshanks> aye I know
15:56:40 <r0bby> http://openmrs.org/wiki/User:r0bby
15:56:48 <r0bby> like what i did with the openMRS logo :)
15:56:54 <r0bby> er
15:56:58 <r0bby> s/openmrs/soc/
15:57:00 <r0bby> :)
15:57:09 <r0bby> I uploaded it :)
15:57:27 <mshanks> lol
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16:01:39 * r0bby still needs to talk to burke about design issues
16:01:48 <r0bby> and I need to fix my effin method
16:01:51 <r0bby> er module*
16:02:20 * r0bby growls
16:03:54 <r0bby> i joined the implementors list :D
16:04:25 <r0bby> I realized i needed to while speaking wiff burke
16:06:01 * r0bby also needs to create a todo list for his project so I can plan well
16:06:11 * r0bby is ...shall i say ocd
16:07:04 <r0bby> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/funny-pictures-kittens-sleeping-bed-pillow.jpg
16:07:05 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1q0R> (at icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com)
16:08:29 <AndersG> Is anyone aware of any (academic) articles about OpenMRS that somehow covers/touches recruitment/community/developer training etc.? I've read through some I found through Google Scholar; "Cooking up an open source EMR for developing countries: OpenMRS - A recipe for successful collaboration", "The OpenMRS implementers network" and "The OpenMRS System: Collaborating toward an open source EMR for developing countries"
16:10:04 <bwolfe> AndersG: chris seebregts would be your best contact about community stuff
16:10:17 <bwolfe> he heads up the openmrs implementers community
16:10:35 <bwolfe> paul would be your best bet for developer papers, etc
16:10:36 <AndersG> ok, i'll send him a mail, thanks
16:11:39 <mshanks> http://openmrs.org/wiki/User:Mshanks
16:11:41 <mshanks> short and to the point
16:12:10 <bwolfe> mshanks: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Creating_your_OpenMRS_User_Profile
16:12:11 <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1q0T> (at openmrs.org)
16:12:26 <mshanks> aww
16:12:27 <mshanks> :p
16:15:27 <r0bby> I'm drafting a message for the implementors list
16:16:10 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4046]: Merging trunk to api-refactoring [3595]:[3685] <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4046>
16:18:14 <r0bby> fired.
16:28:28 <r0bby> bwolfe: i got a thing from burke on my Talk page
16:28:44 <r0bby> then decided to throw the soc and groovy logo in :)
16:28:51 * r0bby :D
16:29:13 <r0bby> sunbiz is pretty smart
16:30:54 <bwolfe> yep, very cool r0bby. I think you have the flashiest user home page so far :-p
16:31:59 <sgrannis> Hey -- what are IR Clogs? Are they some kind of shoe? I notice that OPenMRS has a page for "IR CLogs" and it doesn;t seem to load for me....
16:32:24 <bwolfe> haha
16:32:34 <sgrannis> why are you laughing at me?
16:32:36 <bwolfe> yeah, its a european module addon
16:32:41 <sgrannis> ;)
16:33:18 <r0bby> damn euro...bah can't say it
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16:44:15 <r0bby> jesus christ
16:44:29 <r0bby> do the coders of openmrs know ANYTHING about not making their UI lock up?
16:44:55 <bwolfe> where is the ui lockign up for you ??
16:46:19 <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Ben Wolfe: Merging Apparently Non-Conflicting Conflicts with SVN <http://blog.eflow.org/archives/45>
16:47:47 <r0bby> bwolfe: message filters
16:47:53 <r0bby> downloading messages
16:47:58 <r0bby> checking rss feeds
16:48:13 <r0bby> my CPU load goes to 100%
16:48:36 <r0bby> it happened when i was typing my email to the implementers list
16:48:56 <r0bby> I need their input this summer
16:49:13 <bwolfe> so by "openmrs" above, you mean "whichever email/rss client you use" :-p
16:49:28 <r0bby> I mean thunderbird!
16:49:31 <r0bby> doh
16:49:35 <bwolfe> because last time I checked, openmrs coders shied away from writing an rss program :-p
16:49:39 <r0bby> I have openmrs on the brain :)
16:49:43 <chase> can't wait for groovy module btw. looking forward to wiping windows from the dual boot
16:49:51 <r0bby> chase: hey!
16:50:01 <chase> hey =)
16:50:39 <r0bby> unfortunately, in the beginning you'll need to know how to define a groovy class -- maybe if i have time i'll code an AJAX wizard
16:51:06 <chase> nta cibazo
16:51:09 <chase> no problemo
16:51:14 <r0bby> but groovy is so easy to use it won't be too bad
16:51:42 <r0bby> class MyForm { Patient p; } will generate your form and a skeleton for your controller
16:51:50 <chase> soooooooooo hot
16:51:54 <r0bby> I have mappings down
16:51:58 <r0bby> sort of
16:52:51 <r0bby> I hate swing coding
16:52:54 <chase> i have windows on the system atm only for infopath
16:53:16 <pearlbear> r0bby: nice page on the groovy project - just read it
16:53:18 <chase> wait -- what are you doing w/ swing?
16:54:21 * chase gets another passion fruit.
16:55:31 <r0bby> chase: unrelated
16:55:39 <r0bby> I wanted an easier way to blog
16:55:53 <r0bby> some dude wrote a blogger thing -- i didnt like it as it used matisse :)
16:56:15 <chase> what's wrong w/ wordpress?
16:56:18 <r0bby> pearlbear: mostly ripped the project description and organized it -- and threw the ideas i had discussed with Burke
16:56:26 <r0bby> chase: I use blogger :P
16:56:48 * chase things wordpress is nifty.
16:57:51 <chase> has blogger come out with any new features.... ever?
16:57:59 <r0bby> probably not :P
16:58:14 <r0bby> I had to add in syntax highlighting myself
16:58:30 <chase> syntax highlighting is for wimps =P
16:58:56 <chase> "real programmers use a magnetized needle and steady hand"
16:59:23 <bwolfe> wasn't there a slashdot post yesterday about google not updating blogger since they bought it ?
16:59:34 <bwolfe> chase: excellent xkcd quote there
17:00:04 <chase> yay i'm glad you know the reference --- christian had never heard of xkcd =)
17:00:11 <r0bby> chase: aka programming using butterflies
17:00:22 <pearlbear> I love xkcd
17:00:26 <r0bby> I remember that post
17:00:36 <r0bby> It was only like a couple months ago
17:01:08 <chase> http://xkcd.com/378/
17:03:08 <chase> i convinced the rwanda country director to switch to ubuntu =)
17:03:32 <chase> on his laptop
17:03:56 <chase> The African Operating system is taking over
17:04:55 <bwolfe> haha, nice work
17:05:02 <bwolfe> when was that? any complaints yet?
17:05:36 <pearlbear> chase: good for you
17:06:48 <chase> no complaints yet since i haven't installed it yet =) he left his laptop with me for the next three days for me to install it while he's gallivanting around the country.
17:07:17 <chase> going to do a dual boot at first to ween him off windows slowly
17:08:14 <bwolfe> ah yes
17:08:26 <bwolfe> good timing as hardy heron just came out. :-)
17:08:45 <chase> is it still in beta?
17:08:53 <bwolfe> nope, released last thursday
17:09:01 <bwolfe> 8.04
17:09:49 <chase> is there a way to update through apt? only have a 6.06 boot disk and don't want to waste bandwidth on downloading it
17:10:05 <bwolfe> yeah, you can do a dist-upgrade
17:10:07 <chase> assuming apt won't download the whole kernal?
17:10:18 <chase> mmm i might do that right now on my computer
17:10:36 <bwolfe> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
17:10:50 <bwolfe> you might be better off downloading it, chase
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17:11:13 <bwolfe> you're "supposed" to upgrade incrementally to each release between yours and the latest
17:11:30 <bwolfe> that would be 6.10, 7.04, 7.10, then 8.04
17:12:54 <bwolfe> isn't it about midnight there? just set it to download all night. over the course of a few nights you might get it all :-P
17:13:01 <chase> installer is 700mb.... i think that would take about 3 years to download here =)
17:14:11 <chase> wish i had internet in my room
17:14:25 <r0bby> chase: where are you
17:14:29 <bwolfe> you could order a cd. how long does that take to ship?
17:15:01 <r0bby> bwolfe: awhile :P
17:15:01 <chase> ~1.5 months from USA i hear
17:15:18 <chase> but i bet there's a distribution center in africa somewhere
17:15:30 <chase> robby: i'm in rwinkwavu, rwanda
17:16:10 <chase> the updates from 6.06 -> 8.08 are hopefully les than 700mb total
17:18:06 <bwolfe> perhaps
17:18:32 <torlye> hehe, this is an interesting conversation - I live about one kilometer from the nearest ubuntu mirror site
17:18:32 <bwolfe> my update from 7.10 to 8.04 was sizable. I think about 70MB or so
17:18:36 <r0bby> :)
17:18:51 <chase> but i could use a download manager if i download the whole thing
17:18:54 <chase> which is a big plus
17:19:19 <chase> i trust a download manager more than the update manager =)
17:19:27 <bwolfe> chase, surely someone in rwanda has an ubuntu download or cd you could borrow. :-p
17:19:44 <chase> ben -- there are probably fewer than 20 programmers in the whole country
17:19:50 <r0bby> chase: ahh rwanda
17:20:03 <bwolfe> ok, then you probably have all of the phone numbers. give them a call. :-)
17:20:08 <chase> haha
17:20:09 <chase> good point
17:20:27 <chase> i've looked around, everyone seems to only have 6.06
17:20:59 <r0bby> chase: just change your sources.list to hardy
17:21:06 <r0bby> bam :)
17:21:08 <chase> haha
17:21:11 <chase> yes!
17:21:22 <chase> ok; i must head to bed
17:21:32 <r0bby> sleep is for the weak
17:21:46 * chase admits weakness.
17:21:49 <bwolfe> heh
17:21:59 <bwolfe> cya chase
17:22:02 <chase> gnight all... keep up the groovy work =)
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17:28:19 <r0bby> Now i got pressure to finish :)
17:28:25 <r0bby> which will keep me in line :P
17:35:41 <bwolfe> hey, at least you know you need that
17:35:47 <bwolfe> and went out and got it no less. :-)
17:36:13 <bwolfe> knowing someone (or many someones) will use your product is always a good motivator
17:36:16 <bwolfe> so I know how you feel
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18:06:25 <openmrs_958> hello, question from a newbie:
18:06:42 <openmrs_958> having some installation troubles implementing this in clinic in nepal
18:07:14 <openmrs_958> machine doesn't have mysql, tomcat, or openmrs already, so am using installer 1.1 but do have java
18:07:33 <openmrs_958> get all the way to the end ok, and then have problem where it hangs and then doesn't seem to access mysql?
18:08:53 <openmrs_958> is this a password issue perhaps?
18:09:40 <nribeka> bmckown, some help here
18:09:49 <bmckown> Okay.
18:09:51 <bmckown> :-)
18:09:54 <nribeka> :D
18:10:08 <r0bby> more administrators :)
18:10:30 <nribeka> your part too r0bby :D
18:11:22 <bmckown> openmrs_958, Do you have a user and password for the openmrs database that you installed?
18:11:40 <openmrs_958> nope
18:11:58 <openmrs_958> well just running the installer i set admin/password for the mysql server
18:12:02 <openmrs_958> but haven't been prompted for any further passwords
18:12:38 <bmckown> I don't remember if the installer does that for you off the top of my head. It would have prompted.
18:12:50 <r0bby> pearlbear: nice putting faces to the nicks :)
18:13:03 <bmckown> Okay, let's try this, Do you have the location for your OPENMRS-runtime.properties file?
18:13:19 <openmrs_958> nope, i can try to find
18:13:20 <bmckown> Do you know where that file is located?
18:13:33 <openmrs_958> nope
18:13:39 <bmckown> Are you running a Windows XP Computer?
18:13:54 <openmrs_958> yup
18:14:03 <bmckown> The file should be located here:
18:14:15 <r0bby> nribeka: I still need to learn about the entire architecture
18:14:35 <r0bby> I didn't realize how much input i needed from the implementers
18:14:39 <bmckown> C:\Documents and Settings\yourusername\Application Data\OpenMRS\
18:14:44 <openmrs_958> thanks
18:15:04 <bmckown> Please let me know when you locate OPENMRS-runtime.properties.
18:15:27 <bmckown> When you do, open it in WordPad or Notepad.
18:15:32 <openmrs_958> ok
18:15:38 <openmrs_958> got it
18:16:06 <pearlbear> r0bby: indeed
18:16:06 <nribeka> r0bby: i got some pubs and journal to read and have phone call tomorrow with sgrannis :D
18:16:28 <bmckown> There should be a line that says hibernate.connection.username=
18:16:29 <r0bby> :D
18:16:39 <bmckown> Don't repeat what it says here.
18:16:41 <r0bby> pearlbear: I wouldn't put my cell on the site...
18:16:43 <r0bby> :x
18:16:56 <r0bby> I'm thinking of doing it...but
18:16:58 <bmckown> It might say connection.username=
18:17:04 <openmrs_958> yup
18:17:21 <bmckown> After the = should be the administrator username for mysql.
18:17:29 <openmrs_958> ok
18:17:43 <bmckown> Then there is a line that is hibernate.connection.password=
18:17:55 <bmckown> and it should have the administrator password for mysql.
18:18:03 <bmckown> Are they there?
18:18:06 <openmrs_958> yup
18:18:56 <bmckown> Hmm. Okay. It 'might' not be recognizing where the OPENMRS-runtime.properties file is located then.
18:19:12 <bmckown> Can you open a Command Prompt?
18:19:18 <openmrs_958> ok
18:19:37 <bmckown> and type: echo $OPENMRS_RUNTIME_PROPERTIES_FILE
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18:21:42 <openmrs_958> ack, i think i did something stupid with the passwds, this might fix
18:22:15 <bmckown> The passwords are not correct?
18:22:23 <openmrs_958> yup
18:23:03 <bmckown> Okay. By the way I think that last command might have been "echo %OPENMRS_RUNTIME_PROPERTIES_FILE%" on Windows.
18:23:10 <bmckown> I forgot on Windows.
18:23:24 <openmrs_958> yup
18:23:26 <openmrs_958> thanks a bunch
18:23:35 <bmckown> Cool. It's working?
18:23:44 <openmrs_958> well i'm trying to fix, let's see...
18:23:48 <bmckown> Okay.
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18:26:20 <openmrs_958> so on the installer it asks for username/password for both tomcat and mysql
18:26:33 <bmckown> Yes. They are usually different.
18:26:36 <openmrs_958> and default is set for both, but looks like i should change those when reinstalling
18:26:43 <openmrs_958> gotcha
18:26:51 <openmrs_958> thanks
18:26:55 <bmckown> Sure.
18:28:22 <bmckown> You can find the Tomcat password in C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat 6.0\conf\tomcat-users.xml
18:29:22 <openmrs_958> awesome, thank you
18:29:28 <bmckown> Sure.
18:46:57 <openmrs_958> hm, doesn't look like that worked unfortunately
18:47:24 <openmrs_958> "Creating Database: ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 10: Operation CREATE USER failed for 'test'@'%"
18:55:55 <bmckown> Your user to connect to the database is 'test'?
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18:58:17 <openmrs_958> nope, i can't see why it's trying that
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19:00:09 <bmckown> That means that it is not reading your OPENMRS-runtime.properties file for some reason.
19:00:32 <openmrs_958> ok
19:00:45 <bmckown> The name of your database is 'openmrs'?
19:01:08 <openmrs_958> that i don't know, whatever's default in the installer
19:01:18 <bmckown> It should be that.
19:02:09 <bmckown> You can tell by the line in the OPENMRS-runtime.properties file: connection.url=jdbc:mysql://localhost:3306/openmrs?autoReconnect=true
19:02:42 <bmckown> It will say the name of the database after 3306/ and before the ?
19:02:48 <bmckown> question mark
19:04:13 <bmckown> Maybe Tomcat is running under a different user. That happens by mistake on Windows a lot.
19:04:47 <bmckown> If you go to C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\Application Data\
19:05:14 <bmckown> and see a file called OpenMRS in there, then you could try copying your OPENMRS-runtime.properties file there.
19:05:15 <bwolfe> openmrs_958: you probably have a mysql user called "test" already.
19:05:26 <bwolfe> openmrs_958: so you can't just rerun the installer
19:05:31 <openmrs_958> oh
19:05:53 <bwolfe> (sorry to jump in bmckown)
19:06:22 <bmckown> That's fine. I think openmrs_958 has put a different mysql user and password in the OPENMRS-runtime.properties file
19:06:38 <bmckown> But you can use 'test'
19:06:49 <openmrs_958> ah
19:07:32 <bwolfe> did the installer ask for a _mysql_ username? or did it just ask for the _openmrs_ username (admin?) and password
19:08:33 <openmrs_958> let's see...
19:09:20 <bwolfe> openmrs_958: had you run the installer multiple times already? or did it always hang at the last step in the installer?
19:09:25 <openmrs_958> mysql
19:09:32 <openmrs_958> always hung
19:09:45 <bwolfe> hmm
19:09:50 <bwolfe> and no mysql existed before ?
19:10:13 <openmrs_958> default is tomcat username: admin {which, per the websit einstructions, i changed to tomcat/tomcat, and that seemed to work} and mysql databasename: openmrs, username: root
19:10:23 <openmrs_958> no mysql beforehand
19:10:29 <r0bby> openmrs_958: do not set it to the default password
19:10:34 <r0bby> that's incredibly insecure
19:10:43 <r0bby> and a disaster waiting to happen
19:10:45 <openmrs_958> ok
19:12:21 <bwolfe> hmm, so did the installer fail with that error message you pasted before? ""Creating Database: ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 10: Operation CREATE USER failed for 'test'@'%"" the very firs ttime?
19:12:29 <openmrs_958> yup
19:12:32 <bwolfe> or did it just hang that first time?
19:12:47 <openmrs_958> no, it didn't hang per se, just paused for a bit and then spit that out
19:14:08 <Keelhaul> o hi
19:14:24 <bwolfe> hey Keelhaul
19:14:31 <bwolfe> openmrs_958: hmm
19:14:43 <bwolfe> openmrs_958: very odd. I've never heard about it failing before
19:14:51 <openmrs_958> must be typing in something wrongly
19:14:56 <bwolfe> maybe
19:15:02 <openmrs_958> shall i try uninstalling everything and restarting from scratch?
19:15:08 <bwolfe> you can try uninstalling mysql and/or tomcat and try again
19:15:16 <openmrs_958> but the appropriate mysql username is 'root'?
19:15:19 <bwolfe> yep, excellent thought :-)
19:15:26 <bwolfe> yes, root is usually it
19:15:32 <openmrs_958> and default database is openmrs
19:15:36 <bwolfe> does the installer ask for the root username ?
19:15:37 <bwolfe> yeah
19:15:40 <openmrs_958> and then whatever i set the tomcat username/passwd to
19:15:57 <Keelhaul> vista UAC wont let me run the tomcat service =/
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19:16:23 <openmrs_958> ok i'll try from scratch; thanks
19:17:25 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I've known people to run it on vista. whats your error ?
19:17:33 <Keelhaul> oh
19:17:56 <Keelhaul> if UAC is on (usually i turn it off), windoze defender wont let the service start
19:19:43 <r0bby> windows--
19:20:04 <nribeka> keelhaul: set the tomcatw.exe to start using admin account :P
19:20:20 <Keelhaul> isnt it already
19:20:48 <nribeka> from the properties of the tomcat5w.exe
19:20:49 <Keelhaul> the point of UAC is to deny programs admin rights
19:21:09 <nribeka> i use this solution to enable to run as a service
19:21:20 <Keelhaul> hm
19:21:22 <nribeka> it will request you to grant the access though
19:21:27 <Keelhaul> the admin option is greyed out
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19:21:37 <Keelhaul> i'll just leave UAC off i guess
19:22:04 <mshanks> "Rejected posting to openmrs-devel-l@listserv.iupui.edu" ... :(
19:22:27 <nribeka> option "run this program as an administrator" is greyed out?
19:22:31 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: is there an example of a module using an extension point (non-admin and non-dashboard)
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19:22:51 <Keelhaul> nribeka: yep
19:22:53 <bwolfe> mshanks: you have to send from the same address you signed up with
19:22:58 <bwolfe> Keelhaul: sure, there are plenty
19:23:09 <mshanks> bwolfe; everything goes through mattshanks86@gmail.com
19:23:15 <mshanks> thats the address I receive to, thats the address I replied from
19:23:20 <Keelhaul> bwolfe: any names? =)
19:23:23 <bwolfe> the mrngen module has one just added one
19:23:28 <Keelhaul> i dont wanna try each of them out =P
19:23:40 <bwolfe> mshanks: didn't we figure out its sending from @googlemail.com ?
19:23:55 <mshanks> gmail and googlemail are the same thing
19:24:00 <mshanks> works for both
19:24:17 <mshanks> it sends from googlemail.com
19:24:28 <bwolfe> right
19:24:30 <nribeka> keelhaul: ouch ... that's bad news. mine is not so i can do that :P
19:24:41 <mshanks> so guess it depends what address you added \o/
19:24:43 <bwolfe> so that means you have to sign up on the dev list with the @googlemail address
19:26:07 <bwolfe> mshanks: the dev list you can manage yourself. I don't think burke added you guys