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| 00:30:02 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Upul Godage: upul <http://upulgsoc.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/openmrs-high-level-architecture/> |
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| 02:00:29 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #710 (enhancement created): Incorporate method of estimating u-values by random sampling <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/710> |
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| 03:45:00 | <mshanks> oi r0bby |
| 03:45:09 | <mshanks> spare me the stupid facebook application invites please |
| 03:45:10 | <mshanks> :p |
| 03:45:11 | <mshanks> hate them |
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| 08:20:39 | <upul> bwolfe, Hi |
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| 08:21:44 | <bwolfe> hey upul |
| 08:21:48 | <bwolfe> how goes life? |
| 08:22:11 | <upul> my blog annoucement's title is missing, it is just 'upul' |
| 08:22:29 | <bwolfe> where is this ? |
| 08:22:46 | <upul> openmrs homepage |
| 08:24:58 | <bwolfe> hmm, very odd |
| 08:25:00 | <bwolfe> will look into it |
| 08:25:12 | <upul> ok just to let you know |
| 08:27:22 | <bwolfe> yep, thanks for that |
| 08:27:36 | <bwolfe> haven't gotten to my rss feeds just yet |
| 08:28:02 | <bwolfe> grr |
| 08:28:23 | <bwolfe> I'm trying to edit the post in feedjack...but its telling me your comments url is not valid. but it is valid. very annoying |
| 08:28:55 | <upul> is a 'hello world...' url |
| 08:29:07 | <upul> is it |
| 08:30:13 | <upul> the 'first' entry link i changed later, i only saw it later that i have modified the default entry |
| 08:30:33 | <bwolfe> ok, modified the post entry that feedjack is storing. openmrs homepage will be updated after the cache times out (20-30 mins maybe?) |
| 08:31:04 | <bwolfe> so did you initially post it with a title or "upul", or did you always use "openmrs high level architecture" ? |
| 08:31:30 | <upul> no i never used upul for links |
| 08:31:53 | <upul> it was the default on '...arch...' one |
| 08:32:23 | <bwolfe> arch? |
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| 08:32:23 | <bwolfe> what do you mean? |
| 08:32:25 | <upul> openmrs high level architecture |
| 08:32:54 | <bwolfe> oh, arch=architecture. got it. :-) |
| 08:33:19 | <bwolfe> forgive me, I haven't entirely woken up yet. :-/ |
| 08:33:19 | <upul> so there must be something mixed up in the one mapping the new entry details to title |
| 08:33:25 | <upul> title field |
| 08:33:26 | <bwolfe> yeah, must be...but its never done that before |
| 08:33:49 | <bwolfe> and there are no overrides in your entry in feedjack...so I have no idea why that happened :-/ |
| 08:33:55 | <bwolfe> maybe feedjack just has it in for you! |
| 08:34:19 | <upul> i didn't do anything to feedjack |
| 08:34:36 | <upul> i haven't even met him ;) |
| 08:34:49 | <bwolfe> hmm, well, maybe you accidentally insulted its mother or something. were you recently talking trash to or about anyone? |
| 08:36:36 | <upul> only about ben wolfe |
| 08:37:20 | <bwolfe> ah...thats it then! feedjack has my back. |
| 08:37:59 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4042]: xformsorbeon module: testing snv from new machine <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4042> || Upul Godage: OpenMRS High Level Architecture <http://upulgsoc.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/openmrs-high-level-architecture/> |
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| 08:40:53 | <bwolfe> upul: the cache timing was with you. the openmrs homepage has been updated already. :-) |
| 08:41:05 | <bwolfe> problem #1 of the day solved. :-) |
| 08:41:13 | <upul> yes thanks |
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| 09:06:56 | <nribeka> hi bwolfe |
| 09:07:17 | <nribeka> in the .classpath file there's entry that looks like this |
| 09:07:18 | <bwolfe> hey nribeka |
| 09:07:24 | <nribeka> <classpathentry kind="lib" path="lib/jfreechart/jfreechart-1.0.1.jar" sourcepath="/openmrs-source/jfreechart-1.0.3-src.zip"/> |
| 09:07:39 | <nribeka> where can i find the /openmrs-source |
| 09:07:41 | <nribeka> :D |
| 09:07:56 | <bwolfe> openmrs-source can be checked out from the /openmrs-contrib folder in our svn |
| 09:08:20 | <bwolfe> hmm, where should we document that? are there developer FAQs nribeka ? |
| 09:08:36 | <nribeka> lemme check |
| 09:12:44 | <nribeka> i don't think it's there bwolfe |
| 09:13:41 | <nribeka> another one bwolfe |
| 09:14:13 | <nribeka> i check out a fresh source from trunk but it failed to build :P |
| 09:14:20 | <nribeka> missing so many lib |
| 09:14:35 | <nribeka> does anyone have the same problem or is it just me? |
| 09:15:23 | <bwolfe> you might need a clean build |
| 09:16:17 | <nribeka> clean, refresh but no go haha ... :D |
| 09:16:41 | <bwolfe> do you have jars in your /lib subfolders ? |
| 09:17:02 | <bwolfe> did the svn checkout report any errors? |
| 09:17:24 | <bwolfe> what does the "problems" tab say in eclipse for that openmrs checkout? |
| 09:17:53 | <nribeka> everything is intact actually |
| 09:18:11 | <nribeka> but somehow eclipse failed to build everything |
| 09:18:51 | <nribeka> all jars is already under referenced libraries node in the package explorer |
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| 09:34:56 | <bwolfe> nribeka: hmm, I don't know |
| 09:35:04 | <bwolfe> whats in that "problems" view ? |
| 09:35:32 | <nribeka> bwolfe: missing required library 42 entry |
| 09:35:39 | <bwolfe> have you tried an "ant clean" (open the "ant" view, drag-drop build.xml into it, select "clean", then select "compile-api") |
| 09:35:40 | <nribeka> probably it's just in my comp |
| 09:35:53 | <nribeka> i resolve it though |
| 09:36:07 | <nribeka> i remove some library entry from the .classpath |
| 09:36:21 | <nribeka> and overwrite it from the svn again |
| 09:36:26 | <nribeka> and the error is gone |
| 09:36:37 | <nribeka> something is wrong with my eclipse |
| 09:37:37 | <bwolfe> hmm, so maybe just refreshing the .classpath file would have worked? |
| 09:37:52 | <bwolfe> nribeka: care to start a Developers FAQs page and throwing these solutions up there ? :-) |
| 09:38:17 | <nribeka> wow ... |
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| 09:38:42 | <nribeka> will write something there :D |
| 09:39:08 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Forum: Re: Installation trouble when starting OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=368#p1182> || OpenMRS Forum: Installation trouble when starting OpenMRS <http://forum.openmrs.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=368#p1181> |
| 09:39:14 | * nribeka is hoping he will not made any typo |
| 09:39:27 | <bwolfe> nribeka: its a wiki...don't worry :-) |
| 09:39:42 | <nribeka> :P |
| 09:39:56 | <bwolfe> there are many people watching all edits and do a quick glance at them to see if any edits are in order |
| 09:40:07 | <bwolfe> ...or maybe its just me that watches all edits, I'm not sure |
| 09:40:09 | <bwolfe> :-p |
| 09:41:23 | <nribeka> where should i put it? |
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| 09:41:47 | <nribeka> how to use eclipse page? |
| 09:41:59 | <bwolfe> link to it from the developers page |
| 09:42:01 | <bwolfe> !developers |
| 09:42:01 | <OpenMRSBot> bwolfe: "developers" --- http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developers |
| 09:50:20 | <nribeka> i don't understand it bwolfe :( |
| 09:50:36 | <nribeka> do you mean creating a new page and link to the dev page? |
| 09:50:59 | <bwolfe> create the new page and link to the new page from the developers page |
| 09:51:41 | <nribeka> ah ok |
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| 10:07:18 | <nribeka> bwolfe: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Developer_FAQ |
| 10:07:28 | <nribeka> what do you think? |
| 10:07:40 | * nribeka is crossing his fingers |
| 10:07:51 | <bwolfe> cool |
| 10:08:00 | <bwolfe> http://openmrs.org/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Developer_FAQ |
| 10:08:01 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1px+> (at openmrs.org) |
| 10:08:01 | <bwolfe> :-( |
| 10:08:22 | <nribeka> i haven't update the Dev page |
| 10:08:25 | <nribeka> :P |
| 10:08:27 | <bwolfe> the "openmrs-source" question you had would be a good one to add as well |
| 10:08:44 | <nribeka> i want to make it like the openmrs faq page |
| 10:08:45 | <bwolfe> yeah, I figured you just hadn't gotten to it yet. I was teasing. :-) |
| 10:09:11 | <nribeka> do you know how to make the page looks like the openmrs faq page |
| 10:09:15 | <nribeka> haha ... lolz :P |
| 10:09:55 | <bwolfe> nribeka: you did it already. after there are 3 or more headlines on taht page the "table of contents" will appear at the top |
| 10:10:19 | <nribeka> ah ok ok :D |
| 10:10:34 | <nribeka> didn't know that :P |
| 10:10:44 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Tickets: Ticket #711 (task created): stack overflow in hashCode method of LogicCacheEntryKey 3983 report-api-refactoring <http://dev.openmrs.org/ticket/711> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4043]: report_api_refactoring branch: adding (awesome) class comments <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4043> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4042]: xformsorbeon module: testing svn from new machine <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4042> |
| 10:11:03 | <bwolfe> nribeka: yep, its a mediawiki thing |
| 10:11:32 | <nribeka> ah ic :D cool :D |
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| 11:09:48 | <bwolfe> nribeka: awesome, thanks for those changes! :-) |
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| 11:10:36 | <bwolfe> nzeyi: do you have a blog of some sort set up yet ? |
| 11:10:44 | <nribeka> hehe ... :D |
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| 11:12:47 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4044]: report-api-refactoring: Changing data source entries to allow for merging ⦠<http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4044> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4036]: synchronization-birdirectional: Added obs_group_id as an index. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4036> || OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4034]: child-vct-report: First working version. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4034> |
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| 11:42:53 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Sri Prasanna: Homepage of deployed OpenMRS in my system <http://cancerb0y.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/deploying-openmrs-in-my-computer/> |
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| 11:50:26 | <nribeka> got to run. ttl bwolfe :D |
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| 13:25:11 | <pearlbear> I wonder if this would be useful... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree |
| 13:25:14 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1pyv> (at www.mediawiki.org) |
| 13:27:30 | <[OmacbookX]> pearlbear, that looks pretty good |
| 13:27:40 | <[OmacbookX]> Of course, we need proper categories first =) |
| 13:28:50 | <pearlbear> yeah, getting there. |
| 13:29:01 | <pearlbear> Look at this: http://openmrs.org/wiki/DevelDocDraft |
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| 13:29:37 | <[OmacbookX]> Very cool |
| 13:29:42 | <pearlbear> next step is to draft a list of subcategories for dev docs |
| 13:30:14 | <pearlbear> using categories and subcategories are far from intuitive on mediawiki, sadly |
| 13:31:05 | <bwolfe> very sad indeed |
| 13:31:10 | <[OmacbookX]> What's the method now? |
| 13:31:18 | <bwolfe> we'll need some documentation about how to document soon. :-p |
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| 13:31:39 | <[OmacbookX]> bwolfe, we're planning on that, too |
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| 13:32:10 | <bwolfe> that mw extension above looks nifty. does it just give a way to show mw's normal cat/subcat ability, its not adding its own, right? |
| 13:34:53 | <pearlbear> bwolfe: right |
| 13:35:50 | <pearlbear> so I have now grokked the category/subcategory thing. First, you make a category. Then, if you want to make that a subcategory of something, categorize the category page. (what a mouthful!) |
| 13:36:34 | <[OmacbookX]> lol |
| 13:36:39 | <pearlbear> so if we set up the structure, it should be OK - we just have to give people guidance |
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| 13:44:18 | <pearlbear> Here's a start on the categories list: http://openmrs.org/wiki/CategoryList |
| 13:44:21 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4045]: Removed duplicate indexing of obs_group_id. <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4045> |
| 13:46:20 | <[OmacbookX]> Cool. I'll see if I have anything to add to it later |
| 13:47:13 | <pearlbear> Cool. I'm gonna send out an email to the devs list |
| 13:48:00 | <bwolfe> Cool. (I just wanted to fit in) |
| 13:48:27 | <[OmacbookX]> lol |
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| 14:05:21 | <pearlbear> hi docpaul |
| 14:06:32 | <docpaul> hi. :) |
| 14:07:12 | <[OmacbookX]> docpaul, heya |
| 14:07:21 | <docpaul> hi. :) |
| 14:07:23 | <docpaul> bb in a sec |
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| 14:09:21 | <bwolfe> man, you need to talk fast with docpaul :-p |
| 14:09:32 | <bwolfe> you get allotted less than a minute before he takes off |
| 14:09:34 | <bwolfe> hehe |
| 14:12:44 | <docpaul> :) |
| 14:12:46 | <docpaul> here |
| 14:20:16 | * r0bby looks around |
| 14:21:09 | <r0bby> pearlbear: you're making docs right? Make pdfs :) |
| 14:21:27 | <[OmacbookX]> Why PDFs? |
| 14:24:58 | <jmiranda> hey docpaul ... |
| 14:25:03 | <jmiranda> dang i missed him |
| 14:31:57 | <pearlbear> r0bby: sorry, dude. No pdfs |
| 14:32:11 | <pearlbear> at least, not until later |
| 14:33:05 | <pearlbear> actually, r0bby how about this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Pdf_Export |
| 14:33:06 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1pza> (at www.mediawiki.org) |
| 14:33:12 | <r0bby> [OmacbookX]: all ib ibe opkace |
| 14:33:28 | <r0bby> pearlbear: lemme see |
| 14:34:39 | <r0bby> that works -- but i want all OpenMRS docs in one place |
| 14:34:50 | <r0bby> and not doctors :P |
| 14:35:02 | <r0bby> docpaul: Hi! |
| 14:35:03 | <bwolfe> r0bby: whats "all ib ibe opkace" ??? |
| 14:35:03 | <r0bby> :) |
| 14:35:07 | <pearlbear> this is actually cool: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Pdf_Book |
| 14:35:08 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1pzd> (at www.mediawiki.org) |
| 14:35:33 | <r0bby> pearlbear: perfect! |
| 14:35:36 | <r0bby> pearlbear++ |
| 14:35:37 | <r0bby> pearlbear++ |
| 14:35:41 | <r0bby> pearlbear++ |
| 14:35:43 | <r0bby> perfect |
| 14:35:58 | <bwolfe> yep, if we get all of the categories right :-) |
| 14:35:58 | <pearlbear> wow. I made r0bby happy. Good thing. :-P |
| 14:36:34 | <pearlbear> and categorize all the pages, too |
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| 15:08:14 | <r0bby> okay i |
| 15:08:29 | <r0bby> ve done everything needed that i spoke to burke about i think |
| 15:08:38 | <r0bby> other than accidentally busting the module |
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| 15:13:29 | <r0bby> hey AndersG |
| 15:13:51 | <AndersG> hello! |
| 15:15:00 | <[OmacbookX]> Heya AndersG |
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| 15:15:54 | <AndersG> what's happening? :) |
| 15:17:23 | <[OmacbookX]> Haven't seen you in a while |
| 15:17:42 | <AndersG> trying to stay away to get things done.. goes for all chat apps :) |
| 15:17:47 | <docpaul> robby: how did your chat with burke go? |
| 15:18:02 | <docpaul> heya AndersG ! |
| 15:18:21 | <AndersG> hopefully that period will be over in not too long and i can become normal again ;) |
| 15:18:34 | <AndersG> hello docpaul :) |
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| 15:52:06 | <mshanks> ... |
| 15:52:17 | <mshanks> was just about to ask paul a question |
| 15:52:18 | <mshanks> grr |
| 15:56:12 | <r0bby> mshanks: paul AT openmrs DOT org |
| 15:56:20 | <mshanks> aye I know |
| 15:56:40 | <r0bby> http://openmrs.org/wiki/User:r0bby |
| 15:56:48 | <r0bby> like what i did with the openMRS logo :) |
| 15:56:54 | <r0bby> er |
| 15:56:58 | <r0bby> s/openmrs/soc/ |
| 15:57:00 | <r0bby> :) |
| 15:57:09 | <r0bby> I uploaded it :) |
| 15:57:27 | <mshanks> lol |
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| 16:01:39 | * r0bby still needs to talk to burke about design issues |
| 16:01:48 | <r0bby> and I need to fix my effin method |
| 16:01:51 | <r0bby> er module* |
| 16:02:20 | * r0bby growls |
| 16:03:54 | <r0bby> i joined the implementors list :D |
| 16:04:25 | <r0bby> I realized i needed to while speaking wiff burke |
| 16:06:01 | * r0bby also needs to create a todo list for his project so I can plan well |
| 16:06:11 | * r0bby is ...shall i say ocd |
| 16:07:04 | <r0bby> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/funny-pictures-kittens-sleeping-bed-pillow.jpg |
| 16:07:05 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1q0R> (at icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com) |
| 16:08:29 | <AndersG> Is anyone aware of any (academic) articles about OpenMRS that somehow covers/touches recruitment/community/developer training etc.? I've read through some I found through Google Scholar; "Cooking up an open source EMR for developing countries: OpenMRS - A recipe for successful collaboration", "The OpenMRS implementers network" and "The OpenMRS System: Collaborating toward an open source EMR for developing countries" |
| 16:10:04 | <bwolfe> AndersG: chris seebregts would be your best contact about community stuff |
| 16:10:17 | <bwolfe> he heads up the openmrs implementers community |
| 16:10:35 | <bwolfe> paul would be your best bet for developer papers, etc |
| 16:10:36 | <AndersG> ok, i'll send him a mail, thanks |
| 16:11:39 | <mshanks> http://openmrs.org/wiki/User:Mshanks |
| 16:11:41 | <mshanks> short and to the point |
| 16:12:10 | <bwolfe> mshanks: http://openmrs.org/wiki/Creating_your_OpenMRS_User_Profile |
| 16:12:11 | <OpenMRSBot> <http://ln-s.net/1q0T> (at openmrs.org) |
| 16:12:26 | <mshanks> aww |
| 16:12:27 | <mshanks> :p |
| 16:15:27 | <r0bby> I'm drafting a message for the implementors list |
| 16:16:10 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: OpenMRS Changesets: Changeset [4046]: Merging trunk to api-refactoring [3595]:[3685] <http://dev.openmrs.org/changeset/4046> |
| 16:18:14 | <r0bby> fired. |
| 16:28:28 | <r0bby> bwolfe: i got a thing from burke on my Talk page |
| 16:28:44 | <r0bby> then decided to throw the soc and groovy logo in :) |
| 16:28:51 | * r0bby :D |
| 16:29:13 | <r0bby> sunbiz is pretty smart |
| 16:30:54 | <bwolfe> yep, very cool r0bby. I think you have the flashiest user home page so far :-p |
| 16:31:59 | <sgrannis> Hey -- what are IR Clogs? Are they some kind of shoe? I notice that OPenMRS has a page for "IR CLogs" and it doesn;t seem to load for me.... |
| 16:32:24 | <bwolfe> haha |
| 16:32:34 | <sgrannis> why are you laughing at me? |
| 16:32:36 | <bwolfe> yeah, its a european module addon |
| 16:32:41 | <sgrannis> ;) |
| 16:33:18 | <r0bby> damn euro...bah can't say it |
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| 16:44:15 | <r0bby> jesus christ |
| 16:44:29 | <r0bby> do the coders of openmrs know ANYTHING about not making their UI lock up? |
| 16:44:55 | <bwolfe> where is the ui lockign up for you ?? |
| 16:46:19 | <OpenMRSBot> Recent updates in the world of openmrs: Ben Wolfe: Merging Apparently Non-Conflicting Conflicts with SVN <http://blog.eflow.org/archives/45> |
| 16:47:47 | <r0bby> bwolfe: message filters |
| 16:47:53 | <r0bby> downloading messages |
| 16:47:58 | <r0bby> checking rss feeds |
| 16:48:13 | <r0bby> my CPU load goes to 100% |
| 16:48:36 | <r0bby> it happened when i was typing my email to the implementers list |
| 16:48:56 | <r0bby> I need their input this summer |
| 16:49:13 | <bwolfe> so by "openmrs" above, you mean "whichever email/rss client you use" :-p |
| 16:49:28 | <r0bby> I mean thunderbird! |
| 16:49:31 | <r0bby> doh |
| 16:49:35 | <bwolfe> because last time I checked, openmrs coders shied away from writing an rss program :-p |
| 16:49:39 | <r0bby> I have openmrs on the brain :) |
| 16:49:43 | <chase> can't wait for groovy module btw. looking forward to wiping windows from the dual boot |
| 16:49:51 | <r0bby> chase: hey! |
| 16:50:01 | <chase> hey =) |
| 16:50:39 | <r0bby> unfortunately, in the beginning you'll need to know how to define a groovy class -- maybe if i have time i'll code an AJAX wizard |
| 16:51:06 | <chase> nta cibazo |
| 16:51:09 | <chase> no problemo |
| 16:51:14 | <r0bby> but groovy is so easy to use it won't be too bad |
| 16:51:42 | <r0bby> class MyForm { Patient p; } will generate your form and a skeleton for your controller |
| 16:51:50 | <chase> soooooooooo hot |
| 16:51:54 | <r0bby> I have mappings down |
| 16:51:58 | <r0bby> sort of |
| 16:52:51 | <r0bby> I hate swing coding |
| 16:52:54 | <chase> i have windows on the system atm only for infopath |
| 16:53:16 | <pearlbear> r0bby: nice page on the groovy project - just read it |
| 16:53:18 | <chase> wait -- what are you doing w/ swing? |
| 16:54:21 | * chase gets another passion fruit. |
| 16:55:31 | <r0bby> chase: unrelated |
| 16:55:39 | <r0bby> I wanted an easier way to blog |
| 16:55:53 | <r0bby> some dude wrote a blogger thing -- i didnt like it as it used matisse :) |
| 16:56:15 | <chase> what's wrong w/ wordpress? |
| 16:56:18 | <r0bby> pearlbear: mostly ripped the project description and organized it -- and threw the ideas i had discussed with Burke |
| 16:56:26 | <r0bby> chase: I use blogger :P |
| 16:56:48 | * chase things wordpress is nifty. |
| 16:57:51 | <chase> has blogger come out with any new features.... ever? |
| 16:57:59 | <r0bby> probably not :P |
| 16:58:14 | <r0bby> I had to add in syntax highlighting myself |
| 16:58:30 | <chase> syntax highlighting is for wimps =P |
| 16:58:56 | <chase> "real programmers use a magnetized needle and steady hand" |
| 16:59:23 | <bwolfe> wasn't there a slashdot post yesterday about google not updating blogger since they bought it ? |
| 16:59:34 | <bwolfe> chase: excellent xkcd quote there |
| 17:00:04 | <chase> yay i'm glad you know the reference --- christian had never heard of xkcd =) |
| 17:00:11 | <r0bby> chase: aka programming using butterflies |
| 17:00:22 | <pearlbear> I love xkcd |
| 17:00:26 | <r0bby> I remember that post |
| 17:00:36 | <r0bby> It was only like a couple months ago |
| 17:01:08 | <chase> http://xkcd.com/378/ |
| 17:03:08 | <chase> i convinced the rwanda country director to switch to ubuntu =) |
| 17:03:32 | <chase> on his laptop |
| 17:03:56 | <chase> The African Operating system is taking over |
| 17:04:55 | <bwolfe> haha, nice work |
| 17:05:02 | <bwolfe> when was that? any complaints yet? |
| 17:05:36 | <pearlbear> chase: good for you |
| 17:06:48 | <chase> no complaints yet since i haven't installed it yet =) he left his laptop with me for the next three days for me to install it while he's gallivanting around the country. |
| 17:07:17 | <chase> going to do a dual boot at first to ween him off windows slowly |
| 17:08:14 | <bwolfe> ah yes |
| 17:08:26 | <bwolfe> good timing as hardy heron just came out. :-) |
| 17:08:45 | <chase> is it still in beta? |
| 17:08:53 | <bwolfe> nope, released last thursday |
| 17:09:01 | <bwolfe> 8.04 |
| 17:09:49 | <chase> is there a way to update through apt? only have a 6.06 boot disk and don't want to waste bandwidth on downloading it |
| 17:10:05 | <bwolfe> yeah, you can do a dist-upgrade |
| 17:10:07 | <chase> assuming apt won't download the whole kernal? |
| 17:10:18 | <chase> mmm i might do that right now on my computer |
| 17:10:36 | <bwolfe> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading |
| 17:10:50 | <bwolfe> you might be better off downloading it, chase |
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| 17:11:13 | <bwolfe> you're "supposed" to upgrade incrementally to each release between yours and the latest |
| 17:11:30 | <bwolfe> that would be 6.10, 7.04, 7.10, then 8.04 |
| 17:12:54 | <bwolfe> isn't it about midnight there? just set it to download all night. over the course of a few nights you might get it all :-P |
| 17:13:01 | <chase> installer is 700mb.... i think that would take about 3 years to download here =) |
| 17:14:11 | <chase> wish i had internet in my room |
| 17:14:25 | <r0bby> chase: where are you |
| 17:14:29 | <bwolfe> you could order a cd. how long does that take to ship? |
| 17:15:01 | <r0bby> bwolfe: awhile :P |
| 17:15:01 | <chase> ~1.5 months from USA i hear |
| 17:15:18 | <chase> but i bet there's a distribution center in africa somewhere |
| 17:15:30 | <chase> robby: i'm in rwinkwavu, rwanda |
| 17:16:10 | <chase> the updates from 6.06 -> 8.08 are hopefully les than 700mb total |
| 17:18:06 | <bwolfe> perhaps |
| 17:18:32 | <torlye> hehe, this is an interesting conversation - I live about one kilometer from the nearest ubuntu mirror site |
| 17:18:32 | <bwolfe> my update from 7.10 to 8.04 was sizable. I think about 70MB or so |
| 17:18:36 | <r0bby> :) |
| 17:18:51 | <chase> but i could use a download manager if i download the whole thing |
| 17:18:54 | <chase> which is a big plus |
| 17:19:19 | <chase> i trust a download manager more than the update manager =) |
| 17:19:27 | <bwolfe> chase, surely someone in rwanda has an ubuntu download or cd you could borrow. :-p |
| 17:19:44 | <chase> ben -- there are probably fewer than 20 programmers in the whole country |
| 17:19:50 | <r0bby> chase: ahh rwanda |
| 17:20:03 | <bwolfe> ok, then you probably have all of the phone numbers. give them a call. :-) |
| 17:20:08 | <chase> haha |
| 17:20:09 | <chase> good point |
| 17:20:27 | <chase> i've looked around, everyone seems to only have 6.06 |
| 17:20:59 | <r0bby> chase: just change your sources.list to hardy |
| 17:21:06 | <r0bby> bam :) |
| 17:21:08 | <chase> haha |
| 17:21:11 | <chase> yes! |
| 17:21:22 | <chase> ok; i must head to bed |
| 17:21:32 | <r0bby> sleep is for the weak |
| 17:21:46 | * chase admits weakness. |
| 17:21:49 | <bwolfe> heh |
| 17:21:59 | <bwolfe> cya chase |
| 17:22:02 | <chase> gnight all... keep up the groovy work =) |
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| 17:28:19 | <r0bby> Now i got pressure to finish :) |
| 17:28:25 | <r0bby> which will keep me in line :P |
| 17:35:41 | <bwolfe> hey, at least you know you need that |
| 17:35:47 | <bwolfe> and went out and got it no less. :-) |
| 17:36:13 | <bwolfe> knowing someone (or many someones) will use your product is always a good motivator |
| 17:36:16 | <bwolfe> so I know how you feel |
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| 18:06:25 | <openmrs_958> hello, question from a newbie: |
| 18:06:42 | <openmrs_958> having some installation troubles implementing this in clinic in nepal |
| 18:07:14 | <openmrs_958> machine doesn't have mysql, tomcat, or openmrs already, so am using installer 1.1 but do have java |
| 18:07:33 | <openmrs_958> get all the way to the end ok, and then have problem where it hangs and then doesn't seem to access mysql? |
| 18:08:53 | <openmrs_958> is this a password issue perhaps? |
| 18:09:40 | <nribeka> bmckown, some help here |
| 18:09:49 | <bmckown> Okay. |
| 18:09:51 | <bmckown> :-) |
| 18:09:54 | <nribeka> :D |
| 18:10:08 | <r0bby> more administrators :) |
| 18:10:30 | <nribeka> your part too r0bby :D |
| 18:11:22 | <bmckown> openmrs_958, Do you have a user and password for the openmrs database that you installed? |
| 18:11:40 | <openmrs_958> nope |
| 18:11:58 | <openmrs_958> well just running the installer i set admin/password for the mysql server |
| 18:12:02 | <openmrs_958> but haven't been prompted for any further passwords |
| 18:12:38 | <bmckown> I don't remember if the installer does that for you off the top of my head. It would have prompted. |
| 18:12:50 | <r0bby> pearlbear: nice putting faces to the nicks :) |
| 18:13:03 | <bmckown> Okay, let's try this, Do you have the location for your OPENMRS-runtime.properties file? |
| 18:13:19 | <openmrs_958> nope, i can try to find |
| 18:13:20 | <bmckown> Do you know where that file is located? |
| 18:13:33 | <openmrs_958> nope |
| 18:13:39 | <bmckown> Are you running a Windows XP Computer? |
| 18:13:54 | <openmrs_958> yup |
| 18:14:03 | <bmckown> The file should be located here: |
| 18:14:15 | <r0bby> nribeka: I still need to learn about the entire architecture |
| 18:14:35 | <r0bby> I didn't realize how much input i needed from the implementers |
| 18:14:39 | <bmckown> C:\Documents and Settings\yourusername\Application Data\OpenMRS\ |
| 18:14:44 | <openmrs_958> thanks |
| 18:15:04 | <bmckown> Please let me know when you locate OPENMRS-runtime.properties. |
| 18:15:27 | <bmckown> When you do, open it in WordPad or Notepad. |
| 18:15:32 | <openmrs_958> ok |
| 18:15:38 | <openmrs_958> got it |
| 18:16:06 | <pearlbear> r0bby: indeed |
| 18:16:06 | <nribeka> r0bby: i got some pubs and journal to read and have phone call tomorrow with sgrannis :D |
| 18:16:28 | <bmckown> There should be a line that says hibernate.connection.username= |
| 18:16:29 | <r0bby> :D |
| 18:16:39 | <bmckown> Don't repeat what it says here. |
| 18:16:41 | <r0bby> pearlbear: I wouldn't put my cell on the site... |
| 18:16:43 | <r0bby> :x |
| 18:16:56 | <r0bby> I'm thinking of doing it...but |
| 18:16:58 | <bmckown> It might say connection.username= |
| 18:17:04 | <openmrs_958> yup |
| 18:17:21 | <bmckown> After the = should be the administrator username for mysql. |
| 18:17:29 | <openmrs_958> ok |
| 18:17:43 | <bmckown> Then there is a line that is hibernate.connection.password= |
| 18:17:55 | <bmckown> and it should have the administrator password for mysql. |
| 18:18:03 | <bmckown> Are they there? |
| 18:18:06 | <openmrs_958> yup |
| 18:18:56 | <bmckown> Hmm. Okay. It 'might' not be recognizing where the OPENMRS-runtime.properties file is located then. |
| 18:19:12 | <bmckown> Can you open a Command Prompt? |
| 18:19:18 | <openmrs_958> ok |
| 18:19:37 | <bmckown> and type: echo $OPENMRS_RUNTIME_PROPERTIES_FILE |
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| 18:21:42 | <openmrs_958> ack, i think i did something stupid with the passwds, this might fix |
| 18:22:15 | <bmckown> The passwords are not correct? |
| 18:22:23 | <openmrs_958> yup |
| 18:23:03 | <bmckown> Okay. By the way I think that last command might have been "echo %OPENMRS_RUNTIME_PROPERTIES_FILE%" on Windows. |
| 18:23:10 | <bmckown> I forgot on Windows. |
| 18:23:24 | <openmrs_958> yup |
| 18:23:26 | <openmrs_958> thanks a bunch |
| 18:23:35 | <bmckown> Cool. It's working? |
| 18:23:44 | <openmrs_958> well i'm trying to fix, let's see... |
| 18:23:48 | <bmckown> Okay. |
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| 18:26:20 | <openmrs_958> so on the installer it asks for username/password for both tomcat and mysql |
| 18:26:33 | <bmckown> Yes. They are usually different. |
| 18:26:36 | <openmrs_958> and default is set for both, but looks like i should change those when reinstalling |
| 18:26:43 | <openmrs_958> gotcha |
| 18:26:51 | <openmrs_958> thanks |
| 18:26:55 | <bmckown> Sure. |
| 18:28:22 | <bmckown> You can find the Tomcat password in C:\Program Files\Apache Software Foundation\Tomcat 6.0\conf\tomcat-users.xml |
| 18:29:22 | <openmrs_958> awesome, thank you |
| 18:29:28 | <bmckown> Sure. |
| 18:46:57 | <openmrs_958> hm, doesn't look like that worked unfortunately |
| 18:47:24 | <openmrs_958> "Creating Database: ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 10: Operation CREATE USER failed for 'test'@'%" |
| 18:55:55 | <bmckown> Your user to connect to the database is 'test'? |
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| 18:58:17 | <openmrs_958> nope, i can't see why it's trying that |
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| 19:00:09 | <bmckown> That means that it is not reading your OPENMRS-runtime.properties file for some reason. |
| 19:00:32 | <openmrs_958> ok |
| 19:00:45 | <bmckown> The name of your database is 'openmrs'? |
| 19:01:08 | <openmrs_958> that i don't know, whatever's default in the installer |
| 19:01:18 | <bmckown> It should be that. |
| 19:02:09 | <bmckown> You can tell by the line in the OPENMRS-runtime.properties file: connection.url=jdbc:mysql://localhost:3306/openmrs?autoReconnect=true |
| 19:02:42 | <bmckown> It will say the name of the database after 3306/ and before the ? |
| 19:02:48 | <bmckown> question mark |
| 19:04:13 | <bmckown> Maybe Tomcat is running under a different user. That happens by mistake on Windows a lot. |
| 19:04:47 | <bmckown> If you go to C:\Documents and Settings\Default User\Application Data\ |
| 19:05:14 | <bmckown> and see a file called OpenMRS in there, then you could try copying your OPENMRS-runtime.properties file there. |
| 19:05:15 | <bwolfe> openmrs_958: you probably have a mysql user called "test" already. |
| 19:05:26 | <bwolfe> openmrs_958: so you can't just rerun the installer |
| 19:05:31 | <openmrs_958> oh |
| 19:05:53 | <bwolfe> (sorry to jump in bmckown) |
| 19:06:22 | <bmckown> That's fine. I think openmrs_958 has put a different mysql user and password in the OPENMRS-runtime.properties file |
| 19:06:38 | <bmckown> But you can use 'test' |
| 19:06:49 | <openmrs_958> ah |
| 19:07:32 | <bwolfe> did the installer ask for a _mysql_ username? or did it just ask for the _openmrs_ username (admin?) and password |
| 19:08:33 | <openmrs_958> let's see... |
| 19:09:20 | <bwolfe> openmrs_958: had you run the installer multiple times already? or did it always hang at the last step in the installer? |
| 19:09:25 | <openmrs_958> mysql |
| 19:09:32 | <openmrs_958> always hung |
| 19:09:45 | <bwolfe> hmm |
| 19:09:50 | <bwolfe> and no mysql existed before ? |
| 19:10:13 | <openmrs_958> default is tomcat username: admin {which, per the websit einstructions, i changed to tomcat/tomcat, and that seemed to work} and mysql databasename: openmrs, username: root |
| 19:10:23 | <openmrs_958> no mysql beforehand |
| 19:10:29 | <r0bby> openmrs_958: do not set it to the default password |
| 19:10:34 | <r0bby> that's incredibly insecure |
| 19:10:43 | <r0bby> and a disaster waiting to happen |
| 19:10:45 | <openmrs_958> ok |
| 19:12:21 | <bwolfe> hmm, so did the installer fail with that error message you pasted before? ""Creating Database: ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 10: Operation CREATE USER failed for 'test'@'%"" the very firs ttime? |
| 19:12:29 | <openmrs_958> yup |
| 19:12:32 | <bwolfe> or did it just hang that first time? |
| 19:12:47 | <openmrs_958> no, it didn't hang per se, just paused for a bit and then spit that out |
| 19:14:08 | <Keelhaul> o hi |
| 19:14:24 | <bwolfe> hey Keelhaul |
| 19:14:31 | <bwolfe> openmrs_958: hmm |
| 19:14:43 | <bwolfe> openmrs_958: very odd. I've never heard about it failing before |
| 19:14:51 | <openmrs_958> must be typing in something wrongly |
| 19:14:56 | <bwolfe> maybe |
| 19:15:02 | <openmrs_958> shall i try uninstalling everything and restarting from scratch? |
| 19:15:08 | <bwolfe> you can try uninstalling mysql and/or tomcat and try again |
| 19:15:16 | <openmrs_958> but the appropriate mysql username is 'root'? |
| 19:15:19 | <bwolfe> yep, excellent thought :-) |
| 19:15:26 | <bwolfe> yes, root is usually it |
| 19:15:32 | <openmrs_958> and default database is openmrs |
| 19:15:36 | <bwolfe> does the installer ask for the root username ? |
| 19:15:37 | <bwolfe> yeah |
| 19:15:40 | <openmrs_958> and then whatever i set the tomcat username/passwd to |
| 19:15:57 | <Keelhaul> vista UAC wont let me run the tomcat service =/ |
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| 19:16:23 | <openmrs_958> ok i'll try from scratch; thanks |
| 19:17:25 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: I've known people to run it on vista. whats your error ? |
| 19:17:33 | <Keelhaul> oh |
| 19:17:56 | <Keelhaul> if UAC is on (usually i turn it off), windoze defender wont let the service start |
| 19:19:43 | <r0bby> windows-- |
| 19:20:04 | <nribeka> keelhaul: set the tomcatw.exe to start using admin account :P |
| 19:20:20 | <Keelhaul> isnt it already |
| 19:20:48 | <nribeka> from the properties of the tomcat5w.exe |
| 19:20:49 | <Keelhaul> the point of UAC is to deny programs admin rights |
| 19:21:09 | <nribeka> i use this solution to enable to run as a service |
| 19:21:20 | <Keelhaul> hm |
| 19:21:22 | <nribeka> it will request you to grant the access though |
| 19:21:27 | <Keelhaul> the admin option is greyed out |
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| 19:21:37 | <Keelhaul> i'll just leave UAC off i guess |
| 19:22:04 | <mshanks> "Rejected posting to openmrs-devel-l@listserv.iupui.edu" ... :( |
| 19:22:27 | <nribeka> option "run this program as an administrator" is greyed out? |
| 19:22:31 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: is there an example of a module using an extension point (non-admin and non-dashboard) |
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| 19:22:51 | <Keelhaul> nribeka: yep |
| 19:22:53 | <bwolfe> mshanks: you have to send from the same address you signed up with |
| 19:22:58 | <bwolfe> Keelhaul: sure, there are plenty |
| 19:23:09 | <mshanks> bwolfe; everything goes through mattshanks86@gmail.com |
| 19:23:15 | <mshanks> thats the address I receive to, thats the address I replied from |
| 19:23:20 | <Keelhaul> bwolfe: any names? =) |
| 19:23:23 | <bwolfe> the mrngen module has one just added one |
| 19:23:28 | <Keelhaul> i dont wanna try each of them out =P |
| 19:23:40 | <bwolfe> mshanks: didn't we figure out its sending from @googlemail.com ? |
| 19:23:55 | <mshanks> gmail and googlemail are the same thing |
| 19:24:00 | <mshanks> works for both |
| 19:24:17 | <mshanks> it sends from googlemail.com |
| 19:24:28 | <bwolfe> right |
| 19:24:30 | <nribeka> keelhaul: ouch ... that's bad news. mine is not so i can do that :P |
| 19:24:41 | <mshanks> so guess it depends what address you added \o/ |
| 19:24:43 | <bwolfe> so that means you have to sign up on the dev list with the @googlemail address |
| 19:26:07 | <bwolfe> mshanks: the dev list you can manage yourself. I don't think burke added you guys |
